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Kale and company weekday morning 6 till 10 coming up in the cut sheet this morning as the CEO of Axios gets severely triggered over Elon Musk giving a platform for citizen journalists. I know that is killing mainstream and legacy media that many people continue to pivot away from news networks and the traditional suspects of missing disinformation that coming up 745 today. Also we've had these conversations on how you need to act in a movie theater before AMC movie theaters putting out an edict for the new wicked reboot which my wife and I actually saw 15 years ago on Broadway. Yeah, we went and saw it in 2008 or 2009 right after we got married. It was horrific, but I had a lot of red wine and it was a good time. So we had a good time there and also a high court ruling on equality laws when it pertains to bald men in the workplace. I think I have my little get out of jail for free card, but honestly finally wax me. I'm going to claim it's because I'm bald and they didn't like it. All right, we'll get to all of that coming up as well as Kamala Harris. What does she have planned after her little holiday hiatus. Politico with an interesting report will kick that around as well. But before that, let's get to the news. Round number two at 704, the great Don Stens. So in the news this morning on this Tuesday morning, November 26, we are sponsored by Joseph Anthony Retreat Spa and Salon. So earlier, Nick Hale had talked about the death of DEI as far as being dumped by big corporations, especially Walmart leading the way with that one. Well, with that in mind, I will report to you in Philadelphia. There's a new job opening in Philadelphia City Hall. The job that was formerly held by Selena Morrison, who was hailed as the first openly transgender person to lead a Philadelphia city office and who we reported on a lot last March. Yes. Selena Morrison. This was on the Vine Street Express right away. Yes, sir. I remember this story. National News because it was a following a controversial traffic stop. Well, the word is that Selena Morrison is no longer the city's head of the LGBTQ affairs department. Oh, so how long was the tenure a year, a year and a half? Well, Morrison was appointed by former mayor Jim Kenny. That's right. So this was an inherited situation for the current mayor. Okay. I will say. So, Cheryl Parker determined that she had to go in another direction. You know what? They're not saying. They're simply the only statement they released and it was Philadelphia gay news. They were report. They broke the story and others have now picked it up. But the only statement is quote from City Hall, a nationwide search for an individual to lead our office of LGBTQ+ affairs will commence immediately and the administration is committed to filling the position with a qualified individual as soon as possible. As this is a personnel action, the administration will have no further comment. No further comment. Did we ever get an update on the officer that was fired? That's right. He was fired for God about that. And if you were just for those who might just need a refresh on this, this was. So Morrison, who is the first trans individual, a biological born male, but now identifying and dressed as a female and married to a husband, Darius, Mr. Darius McLean. They were in separate vehicles. And so the officer pulls over with a lot of, there was a lot of cause or probable cause, pulls over McLean because of a lot of different issues that we reported at the time. And so at that point, we had the head, the LGBTQ+ department had Morrison get out of the first vehicle that Morrison was driving. And the officer was saying to both of them, you know, get back in the vehicle, get back in the vehicle, both of them getting out of the vehicle. Morrison yelling and you can hear it on the video. Do you know I work for City Hall? I work, you know, for the Philadelphia, you know, I work, I forget what the exact quote was, but I work for the mayor. That was the quote. I work for the mayor. And so the officer then followed all the protocols. If you technically look at if you get out of your vehicle and you're, you know, coming from behind the officer to stop. Because the officer doesn't know these two individuals are together, is domestic and that's the way they're trained. And just because you say you work for the mayor, hey, I don't know that for a fact. I can't confirm that. And that to me is no different than, you know, like the Tyree kill situation. I'm an NFL player. So, what, just because you work for the mayor or you're a pro athlete, you're above following protocol. Yeah. So in that one on Fort and the officer had was relatively new, what a year on the job, but had been at the top of the, of the class, Pennsylvania State Trooper. Yeah. And graduated at the top of the class and was already, you know, had been considered a top cadet. Right. Sergeant Mark Fuji sent us a text. He says, yes, he was fired, but still waiting for a hearing to get his job. To get his job back. So perhaps there's more to the story. Right. Perhaps there's more to the story because they're not commenting only saying that Morris, you know, they're looking for a replacement. Okay. So just, just updating you on that little ditty. By the way, the, the Philadelphia Inquirer has a story this morning that ice is now looking at different proposals to expand the capacity to expand the capacity. To detain immigrants in New Jersey. And trying to add up to 600 beds in at least two different facilities. So this is according to information that was actually provided through a lawsuit that has been filed, just been filed by the ACLU. And so this, because of the incoming Trump administration, that the ACLU, I guess, is pushing back on this, but the ACLU had found out that that ice is looking at ways that they can detain these immigrants and they need hundreds more beds in prisons. Yeah. Former ice director Tom home and Trump's new borders are was on the warm up show on Fox this morning and the five o'clock hour. And he put out the, the word to the Denver mayor of all places that said if you're going to resist, we'll, we'll arrest you as well. This guy is not kidding around. So you talk about any of these ice stories locally or nationally. These, these Democrats that want to play tough. All right. The two. So the ACLU and I'm just, I'm just going to give you my source. It's the Philadelphia Inquire this morning. They're reporting that the ACLU had obtained the records from a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit that had been filed showing that facilities under consideration to hold hundreds of detainees. The Elizabeth detention center in Elizabeth and the Albert M, the Bo Robinson center in Trenton. So North Jersey, South Jersey. And they are, you know, this is ice to your point, Tom home. And I mean, they are preparing to detain these individuals. That's right. So we have that one going on. We have a meeting last night jam packed meeting down the Jersey shore. This is Ocean City packing this third ward meeting last night. It became pretty intense with people shouting their ups, many residents, not all, but many of these residents, very upset about the plans to replace the Wonderland peer property, which the plan is to make it quite beautiful, Icona hotel. That would be right there on the boardwalk. Well, what do they want it to be? If they just want it to be like an artifact and a rem, like the remnants of it and just, you know, for memories. Well, that's, I mean, so to your point, the, the, the, the gentleman who bought it was there. I mean, kudos to him to face the community to say, I love Ocean City. Yeah. This is, um, I used to meet a, he says, I, I love Ocean City. My, you know, kids were raised here. My grandkids. He's keeping the Ferris wheel. He's spending even more money. This is a hundred and fifty five million dollar beautiful state of the art hotel. And he said, I, I love Ocean City. I loved this property. They don't want a hotel. They said, how are the beaches already packed? What about traffic? Yeah. And so it's essentially the fact that, you know, they think that maybe this will change Ocean City. Well, there must be a demand for it. I remember when I was leaving Nashville, I swear to him when I got to Nashville in 2018 versus 2022 when I left the amount of hotels that were built and put up and were operational. You know what it becomes? Because you become such a, a, a tourist destination. It becomes an eyesore for those that have like an emotional attachment to an area and they just don't want to see everything become so, I don't know if commercialized is the right word, but you kind of hate that. Yeah. I could see that. I could see why people are offended. But you know what? Maybe he spent a hundred and fifty five million dollars. The guy must have a good, a good inkling that he's going to make a good, a good penny with that. Yeah. And he's saying that it's, it's putting a beautiful spotlight on Ocean City, pointing out it's the biggest investment in Cape May County with that much money. And so there was another meeting scheduled for December 4th, by the way, but in this one, it was a jam packed, quite passionate meeting. It's better than a windmill. Don't want those turbines. So we are sponsored this morning. You know what we do want? Joseph, Anthony retreat spa and salon, the secrets of finishing your holiday shopping. Three locations, Glen Mills, Springfield Center, City of the Lowe's Hotel, visit in person online. Joseph, Anthony.com, our gift cards are available. That is Joseph, Anthony.com. Thank you for sponsoring our killing company news live. All right, Don. Thank you very much. eight, five, five, eight, three, nine, twelve, ten. So interesting story coming out of the New York Post courtesy of Politico with the headline. Kamala Harris instructs allies to keep options on the table for possible comeback bid after disastrous 2024 campaign. According to reports, they say the following in her absence from the political limelight, Vice President Kamala Harris has reportedly been instructing allies to keep her options open for a possible political comeback. Spurring speculation, not only about a repeat bid for the presidency in 2028, but also speculation about a 2026 California gubernatorial run as Gavin Newsom's term will come to an end in California. According to close confidants, they say that the VEEP 60 years old is adamant that she is, quote, staying in the fight and plans to mull over her political future with family during the holidays. Five sources close to the VEEP told Politico, quote, she doesn't have to decide if she wants to run for something again in the next six months. The natural thing to do would be to set up some type of entity that would give her the opportunity to travel and give speeches, which we know she's so good at, and preserve her political relationships. The outgoing vice president, the first Democrat to lose a popular vote during an election for the presidency in two decades. They also talk about how she had one of the lowest favorability ratings of any VP over the same period of 20 years, and only a 32% positive feedback report from an NBC News poll found in June of 2023. But here's, here's where I disagree with these polling election odds moving forward. And I know we're barely removed from 2024, but we have to move forward. I don't understand how this is even remotely true. As we have, according to echelon insights, Kamala Harris is the front runner in 2028 for the Democrats with a whopping 41% blowing out Gavin Newsom at eight percent, Josh Shapiro at seven percent, and Tim walls at six percent. Number one, I think Kamala Harris is done. This is a lady who didn't make it to the primaries four years ago. This is a lady who did not have to compete in a primary, but was rather installed four months ago. And now, all of a sudden in an open field, four years later is a five to one favorite over three other governors in Minnesota, California and Pennsylvania. Heck, I don't even agree that Gavin Newsom is the second best odds on favorite to be the Democrat nominee in 2028 at eight percent. I think it's if Josh Shapiro decides to run for president in four years and will know by late 2026, if that's a thing in the early 2027. I would install from an odd standpoint from a betting market standpoint, Josh Shapiro to be the front runner. If you think about the importance of Pennsylvania, the most important battleground state. I mean, I would not even have Gavin Newsom in my top two or three. You look at his approval rating in California. I think it's around 47%. I would even throw in guys like Andy Beshear from Kentucky. You know, they're going to float out names like, you know, Joe Manchin and things like that. If Kamala Harris is as progressive as we all tend to believe she is after she was rejected the way she was in the seven battleground states. And I guess give her a little bit of credit. She's still for whatever reason. I don't know if this is the Trump factor. She received technically more votes than Barack Obama ever did, which is kind of wild to think about. Like we talk about landslide. Do landslides exist anymore? Not really. But Trump had about as resounding of a victory as you could have anticipated. And oh, by the way, wins the popular vote. But I think Kamala Harris still finished with, I think, seven or eight million more votes than Barack Obama ever did. Maybe that's just the anti Trump vote coming out. But do you guys think, Don, I'll start with you. Do you think Kamala Harris really has the gumption in her to pull off a comeback? I would argue that it's probably best to move on. Now, maybe she could win the governorship in California. But as far as presidency, I think if you get rejected the way she got rejected, it's probably over for her. Yeah, you know what's weird? You never know. I mean, it's funny how things work and how everybody has just a short memory. I mean, think about back when so many people said, well, it's over for Trump. I thought I'm gonna be president. Hand raised here. I came into this show thinking DeSantis was the best option for a Republican to get back in office. And I was wrong. So for her, who knows? I mean, you know, I would say for Gavin Newsom, he's not going away. And he's now, you know, he's messing with, I know he's messing with a campaigning now. Well, he's been messing with, first of all, he's taking credit. He's now has this whole thing where he's trying to take credit for all of the Tesla success because of the rebates and whatnot for the electric cars for Tesla. So, and then, you know, now he's in this little battle with, with, with mosque. Well, and then that's crazy. I think yesterday on the cut sheet, we had a clip of him where he's campaigning, basically saying he's for all Americans. He's for this group of people and that group of people in this group and, you know, this identity. I mean, the guy has been running a shadow campaign for basically three years now. Remember, we're almost, we're actually, I think what, what are we, two years removed or a year removed from that, that Thanksgiving debate between the San Francisco Newsom that was moderated by Hannity. I mean, he's been in the weeds for years now. He's just angling for the right time. Yeah, but remember what hurt Harris the most was it in all honesty, people that really know who she was. I mean, that, you know what I mean? It's all about the brand. So Newsom is just trying to stay relevant, stay in the national headlines. And so was he smart to go on with Hannity? Do people remember all the details of that? I think that he, he knows that he's got to keep his name out there. Mm hmm. But he's attached to all the left wing nonsense that Kamala Harris was as well. So the receipts will come up and Americans rejected it before. I don't think just because he's a straight white man that they'll vote for him this time around when he's attached to all of the left wing D E I woke ridiculousness. A lot of that stems from an originates in California 855 839 12 12 10. We'll come back bald men being called bald in the workplace is apparently sexual harassment and also movie theater etiquette. Should they be issuing warnings to fans headed to see a very popular Broadway presentation in the theaters? Probably not the best business decision for a dying industry. But we'll talk about it before we get to the cut sheet, which is coming up at 745. It's all gravy this weekend on Fandal in partnership with the Valley Forge Casino, which means you're getting your feast on rewards all weekend along right now. All customers can get no sweat NFL same game parlays to celebrate the occasion. Just place any three legs same game parley and you'll get bonus bets back if your bet doesn't win. 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It's a killing company on demand from talk radio 1210 W.P.H.T. and the free Odyssey app. Andy Chan holiday block party, which is coming up Friday December 20 from 4 p.m. to 9 p.m. right down in old city on second street between market and chestnut. You might recall last year, if you attended some of our great listeners, big outing for, you know, police and families behind the badge and fallen heroes, the brave and courageous Marissa Fitzgerald, who gave such a tremendous speech last year. After her husband, Christopher Fitzgerald, the temple police officer was tragically killed in, I believe it was that alley type setting on that side street with that scumbag. And don't you, don't you reported on an update on that kid in prison, right? He got beat up in the joint, right? Yeah, the accused killer was stabbed with a shame. Yeah. Hate to see that happen. Hate to see that happen. Just absolutely hate that stuff. Sometimes, you know, people get dressed as in prison. That's correct. So hopefully you can attend and you can celebrate the season in old city and join us for a special first responder holiday party and fundraiser featuring music, food trucks, silent auction, raffle, 50/50 special guests and more. So they really need to sell some tickets. I think the tickets are like 20 bucks. All the money goes to the families behind the badge Children's Foundation. So please, we're all, I mean, I can speak for, we're all going to be there, right? Correct. Yes, okay. So, you know, we'll be there. Come down if you can, but if not, just, you know, just buy a ticket and it's 20, you know, it's 20 bucks. All the money goes to the families behind the badge Children's Foundation. They really, I talked to Marco Conner yesterday. They really want to get the word out now. So it's the same location. Second street, old city, point location. So we'll, yeah, it's a fun. It's a fun, it's a fun evening. And like I said, you know, the Kale and Company will be down there, Don, myself, Nikale, and, you know, will help celebrate for a, I hate to use the word celebrate, but it's a, it's a charity thing for a great cause. I love this foundation. We all love this foundation. We do anything we can to help it. I talked to Joe Conklin, who was also involved in it yesterday. He might come on. If the, if the powers that be at the Sports Station allow him to, you know, every once in a while, you know, we have to, as we rise in popularity, people get a little territorial, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, I know what you mean, man. So it's just, it's all good. It's all for a great cause. So we'll, we'll make sure. So, you know, just go to the families behind the Bad Children's Foundation website and buy the $20 tickets because they could really need your help. They could really use your help for this. Yes. And speaking of rising in popularity. By the way, guys, another good month. Yeah. Another great month for this show again, but you know, I'm getting a little tired of celebrating. It's like the election, right? You win, you win, but you got to just keep moving on to the next thing, right? So the thank you to the listeners. Yes. That's, that's what Nick Cal means to say. Yeah, it means thank you to the listeners. Of course, of course. Oh, just having a little showmanship. I know. I'm just a little showmanship. I want to hold the championship belt up. You know, you win the fight. You got to hold up the belt. All right. But how about this? These two stories. Speaking of moving on, this is amazing. I gotta, I gotta rip men for this. If you're a man and you're bald and you're offended by somebody calling you out for being bald, that is a you problem. And I say that as a man who at 20, let's say, 2012 started to realize, man, those, those fades that I'm getting at the bar. It's fading in the wrong direction, right? You like to fade around the sides and the back. You don't like to fade at the top. And then I came to grips with it. And it was just like, you know what, getting a haircut every 14 days is a waste of money because after five days, the haircut looks like crap. And then the baldness really starts to rear its ugly head. So in 2018, in the spring of 2018, I embraced it. And, you know, I bought the the big razor blades and the shaving cream. And I said, all right, every other day or so, I'm going to skim this sucker down in the shower. And A, embrace it. B, I realized I actually look better bald with a beard than I did with receding hair. And it's more financially affordable. Well, a high court in the United Kingdom has made a legal ruling that calling a man bald constitutes sexual harassment. This is where I got to rip my own gender. And, you know, for this man, his name is Tony Finn. He is 64 years old. And the judge said that using the word bald about a man could breach equality laws because it is, quote, inherently related to gender. The high court ruled that using the word bald against a man could be considered sexual harassment, which has caused some disbelief amongst surprise, surprise social media users. And it is always disbelief on social media. How could that be? Which I actually agreed with the outrage over this. It follows a lengthy legal case, which was brought by an electrician named Tony Finn, who claimed he had been sexually harassed by his boss during a heated battle in 2019. Mr. Finn, who's 64 years old, which also makes this even more egregious because you would think it's 64 that you have a little bit of a tougher, thicker skin. You're not one of these little Gen Zers that's offended by the fact that it's cloudy one day. He made the claim against the British electrician company, where he worked for 24 years before he was fired in 2021. He claims he's a victim of sexual harassment after comments were made about his boldness, including being called a stupid bald C word. And you know what the C word is? Wow. Well, that ain't over in England. To be fair, I love using that word over there. To be fair, correct me if I'm wrong, Don, but that word doesn't have the same bite that it does here in the United States of America, the good old U.S. of A, the greatest country in the world. Yes. That word, the C word, the next Tuesday, is not the, does not have the same impact that it was here. Oh, no, it is much more mainstream over there, for sure. I need to move over there. I love that word. True story. When we lived in Nashville, my wife's best friend, her name was Alyssa, they were British. And her husband, Phil, is an old military vet from the United Kingdom. And he will drop the C.U. next Tuesday, like I use the word the every fifth word is it is amazing. So apparently they got into an argument with his supervisor, and then this employment tribunal panel said that the remark, quote, crossed the line and dismissed the argument that the comment was not sexist. Because women technically can be bald as well. Some women obviously do lose their hair. The judgment said there was, quote, a connection between the word bald and the protected characteristic of sex, noting that it is much more prevalent in men than women. And they say we find it inherently related to sex. Now, the comments to this are just incredible. One person says this is silly. We should all strive to be better people and to be more understanding in support of with those who are missing something. But it seems silly to waste the court's time with things so small, which, I mean, I agree, as the only person on this show that doesn't have beautiful hair, I think this is ridiculous. Another person described it as utter nonsense. This cannot be serious. Meanwhile, another person said, I'm bald. I love being bald. I really feel for guys who struggle with it. I have no issue with people having banter as long as they can take it back. And then another shared a bunch of insults that are used towards bald people, some of which I've never heard and some I absolutely love, including coconut bounce, eggshell, cue ball, light bulb, and slap head. I love slap head. Slap head is a totally underrated word in this country. That's what I'm going to start calling the show. Slap head, Don, and this is a company. Slap head and company, isn't it? Or kaiyu. I think kaiyu, cue ball and comb. That's what we should call this show. I wanted to get to that story. What about the slapping incident, speaking of slap with Will Smith's wife and the alopecia? Oh, that's correct, because she's technically bald by medical. Yeah. So, is one, if you say a bald guy or a bald woman? Interesting. So, what do you call yourself then? What's the proper, like... Follically challenged? That's what I've always said. Smooth headed. I'm follically challenged. Which, by the way, my daughters and wife should also be bald because every day I get into the shower and there's hair from their shampoo and their conditioner and their detangler. Yeah, it's unbelievable. I can't imagine living with more than a woman, but my wife too, she has, like, this huge head of hair. It's big clumps everywhere. Clumps! How do you not... I leave one hair with a sink from shaving and I read the riot act. She leaves behind a whole section of the head and it's just... I'm like, "Was the dog in here? What are we doing?" That's a... You know what? That's actually a sign of, first of all, it could be vitamin deficiency. Uh-oh, yeah. 'Cause I don't have that. Really? You have a head and a half a head. I know, but look at the vitamins of... Can be a sign of vitamin deficiency? Yeah. Stress. Stalker. Stalker's got hair. Fills got hair. You know what? Honestly, there's not many bald guys at all to see, period. Oh, are you gonna claim discrimination? No, scope. Scope and itches bald, I'm bald, and that's all I can think of off the top of my head. Actually, Gillio's bald. Yeah, people are like, "Who's Gillio?" I know, I'm going in the weeds here. Yeah, you can't say skin head, 'cause that has a connotation. That's correct. That's correct. Yeah, there's not a lot of... There's not a lot of bald people. I need a bald diversity and inclusion. Naked head. Conference meeting. I'm not scared. Naked head. By the way, you're gonna... I mean, you have a lawsuit for when... I do. Or see, shows you the door. I do. I do. I'm just gonna say that me and the bosses got into a heated meeting in the conference room, and he called me a slap head. Or a bald C-word. A cue ball. Smooth headed. And he said, "Hit the road, see you next Tuesday." And then I went to the garage and I left. Forever. With my truck. All right, 855-839-1210. We'll come back. Cut sheet is fired up, ready to go, including legacy media versus new media, and why all of a sudden Elon Musk is the big, bad, boogie man. Wow, we're gonna actually hit it on time today. That's right. Hitting everything on time, but I'm getting out of here on time. I won't be back until Monday. And by the way, I'm gonna make a... I'm taking a social media break. By the way, for five days. For five days. And both of you do that, please. Five straight days. I will not tweet a single thing between now and the Eagles game on Sunday. By the way, a lot of great... Tony Bruno will be in... Tony Bruno and Miss Robin will be in tomorrow. Are they physically coming up or from Florida? No, no, no. They're from Florida. Okay. I think Dan Browski is sitting in my chair tomorrow, so he'll do all the cutchy thing. Thursday, Michael Pelka will be doing Thursday at special Thanksgiving program. We start at six a.m. Michael Pelka will be doing the Thursday program. And then Friday back to Tony Bruno and Miss Robin again. Okay. And then a lot of other great filling hosts on the Don't Show and for COLE and everything like that. So you'll be well covered, so make sure even though we're not here, you're still here. Okay. Sounds good. This is the Kaling Company podcast from Dark Radio 1210WPHD and on the free Odyssey app. I might need to go down and start making suggestions down the hall. They probably won't take my suggestion, but they don't want to hear from me. They don't want to hear from me. They don't like you, they don't work because of where you work now. We're for Son and Ungrata in this building. You know that, right? They see me in the bathroom like... Hey, Nick. Hey, bud. Are we doing... So, Eagles gonna win this week? Yeah. I guess. All right. Gotcha. All right. 747. Let's see what Stalker has lined up for a Tuesday. They used to all be your friends. What? It is. On. The cut sheets. Competition's good now. Like, it's good. And we're competing now. At them. That's right. Hey. We're trying to beat everybody. We're holding on our own company. We're savages like that. Ah, yes. All right. Let's start with Cut 12 here. So you've been teasing this. This is Jim Vandahy, who's the Axios CEO. Yeah. He was the one we played yesterday. He was the one who said, and I think the clip went out on social media too. Last night. He was the one that said that the GOP is not a conservative party anymore. Correct. Well, he was also at the National Press Club Breakfast. The National Press Club. Can you imagine? Don, did you ever attend the National Press Club Breakfast? Probably. Probably. Yeah. Sounds like a rollicking good time. Yeah. He says, that's, by the way, this is, this is a profanity lace meltdown because Elon Musk keeps telling creators on X that they're the media now. And he says they are not the media now. He said, you people, you pleads, sit there and you listen to our reporting. Okay. Screw everybody else. We will be a voice. Thank you. You have no voice. Exactly. That's what they're saying. Vandahy got up on his soapbox. All right. Roll it, Phil. Matters. Everything we do is under fire. Elon Musk sits on Twitter every day or X today saying like, we are the man. We are the media. You are the media. My message to Elon Musk is bull. You're not the media. You having a blue check mark, a Twitter handle and 300 words of cleverness doesn't make you a reporter anymore than me looking at your head and seeing that you have a brain and telling you you have an awesome set of tools makes me a damn neurosurgeon, right? Like what we do, what journalists do, what you did in Mississippi, what else is here it does in the Middle East, you proclaim yourself to be a reporter like this nonsense, like being a reporter is hard, really hard. You have to care. You have to do the hard work. You have to get up every single day and say, I want to get to the closest approximation of the truth without any fear, without any favoritism. You don't do that by popping off on Twitter. You don't do that by having an opinion. You do it by doing the hard work. Aww, that's why Mr. Jim feels like he's losing his grip on the flow of information. By the way, they give him a standing ovation on the morning shows. Great. Yes, somebody who went to journalism school and dreamed of being a journalist, I will say that Jimmy is wrong. Jim, you're wrong. And Ilana is right. What Ilana is talking about is the fact that even the founding fathers believed in citizen journalism. And that's why you don't have to be accredited to be a journalist. You don't have to go to J school. You don't have to have a license because anybody can be a journalist in America. That's the beauty of it. And that's the beauty of the First Amendment. That's the beauty of free speech. And so that's why we saw these citizen journalists. And many of them parents, grandparents, moms, especially during the pandemic. Hell, you had them in Bucks County, Bucks County Chester, Bethan Rossica. Yeah. I mean, here, you know, here's somebody who's a mom who's an educator and started filing freedom of information requests. Now they're, now they, they are writing, invest, they're doing investigative, investigative journalism still as I think there's, there are a couple of articles out. Well, I think yesterday or today with broad and Liberty with Bethan Rossica. Your girl, Meg Brock got picked up by the Daily Caller to write some stuff because she's got curiosity and courage. And not just curiosity, but caring. I mean, he says you don't care. You don't think that a mom whose kid has been banned from their school. And suddenly there's a sudden policy change by a county director. And you're saying that that parent doesn't, that dad or that mom doesn't care. Yeah, they care deeply. And guess what? Guess what? These individuals who are all clapping for each other and standing ovation for each other, they were not doing the investigative journalism. And that is what provoked that void is what provoked and inspired all of these citizens for no pay, to become journalists and investigative journalists. So Jim doesn't get it. Elon Musk, when he says you are the media, that's what Elon Musk is talking about, citizen journalism, which was designed by the founding fathers, which they envision go all the way back to Ben Franklin, all the founding fathers. And that is why to this day, there is no government oversight of any individual journalist by that nature. Now, this guy is, he is complete, he is just so off. I agree. I look at it from two vantage points to start with the journalism aspect. When I got out of college in 2006, I wanted to do sports radio and I wanted to be a opinion columnist for sports for the newspaper. And they hired me at the newspaper that my mom worked at to cover like high school across and women's violence. It was atrocious, but I just wanted to get my foot in the door because I liked sports and I could write. I didn't have a journalism degree. Same thing when I was doing the sports station down the hall ten or across the street ten years ago, the Philadelphia Inquire hired me to write a digital weekly opinion column. I didn't have a journalism background by any stretch, but I do think when we talk about media, it's beyond just journalism. It's opinion, it's entertainment, it's information. And I think what's happened here is so many people now realize that the mainstream media is bought and paid for propaganda. And that's why you've seen this marketplace that has been created with people craving alternative facts, facts that are omitted. Don, you talk about it a long time by a spy omission. That's why X has done well under Elon Musk with what it's become. Talk radio, yeah, Fox News, the podcasts, people are tired of going to CNN or the Philadelphia Inquire and expecting to be told the truth when they're not told the truth. So that's my spiel. Yeah. And I think for van de High, a piece of what he's saying, I understand that he's saying that those, you know, war correspondents or those people who are fearless and risk their lives to bring forth information or break stories, I get that and I appreciate that. But at the same time, he doesn't have to dismiss those citizen journalists who he says, what did he say? You don't have to take risks or it's hard work and you're taking risks and you have to be brave. You don't think that and just think locally, the people who learned that their own county was blocking their phones that they are being sued. And Meg Brock is still being dragged through the courts all these years later, by the way. And there are others like her across the country. You think of these people who risked and felt that maybe their municipality was, you know, there would be weaponized government against them and that's really what is happening to people locally. And then what about their kids not, you know, maybe being excluded from things? Yeah. And that's why even, well, there was another meeting last night, I'll be reporting on, but another media meeting last night where I know that there were school meetings where there were moms in particular came up to me and said, when you're doing video or taking pictures or posting, they don't want to be shown because they feel that they themselves or especially their kids will be bullied or excluded from things in their school. So how personal is that, you know, and they're not, they're not getting big time money or six figures. No. They're just trying to improve the quality of life, not just for themselves and their own children and family, but for their entire community. He also sounds like a guy that's scared of competition because there's more outlets for you to get news, information, media entertainment than ever before, right? Digital media, digital media, on-demand media, streaming media, traditional radio, podcast, TV, digital streaming on YouTube, Spotify, newspapers, digital versions. So like this is one of those things where it's, I feel like, dude, if you don't like it, then do better at your job. Be better at what you're paid to do and give those people a reason to come to you. The marketplace will bear itself out. That's why I always say on this show, I'm not, I'm not just competing against left-wing media. I'm competing against all media. I want you to come to me, not Dan Bongino. I want you to come to me, not, not Clay and, Clay and Buck, you know, on down the list. Like, well, you're all the same. I'm not on the same team. I'm trying to get the biggest audience I possibly can garner with the most revenue. And it's a competitive doggy dog world out there in this world of media. And the left doesn't like it because they've lost their stranglehold over it, right? That's why MSNBC is catering. It's why MSNBC is going to be sold off, twice CNNs on their fifth CEO in three years, trying to reshuffle the deck of the Titanic. It's a competitive world out there. Bring your A game every day, Jim, Jim Vandoey. Vande High. Vande High. I love the competitive spirit. I, but I don't think that he's, I don't think he's threatened by competition. I think that what the high and mighty living in a bubble media folks do is, and I, and by the way, the, some of the points that he makes, I agree with, I can appreciate what the, what the free press is supposed to be. And he says, I love this country and so on and so forth. It's just that they, they forget, you know, that living in their, their media bubble, that you don't have to work for a network or Axios or whatever to be a journalist and that there are. Yeah. They were the gatekeepers before, right? To, to, to everything. You know what I mean? If, if you want to journalism degree, you shall pass through me. Yes. Yeah. So now, and, and by the way, think of election day. Think of people even on social media calling it either posting on social media or calling into our shows here, talk radio 1210, WPHD, think of that communication that then happened. We had Michael Watley calling in or Linda Kerns saying, I heard, you know, I heard such and such or, oh, they're, they're having a problem here. I mean, that was Bucks County. You think about what a critical county that was. There were people who were acting as reporters, citizen journalists. Yeah. And it mattered because they were alerting those, you know, alerting officials and even Republican national, you know, the RNC attorneys and the election integrity attorneys to what was happening in real time happened in Delco as well. And what did that spark? Well, then the lawyers could file something in court. Yeah. They needed to know about it. Yeah. And so, so people were acting as reporters and, and it, and it was happening in real time. And guess what? There were no other, you know, according to him, according to Jim, there were no real journalists reporting it. Yeah. They were citizen journalists. So I would say to him that he needs to be more inclusive. Yeah. Think about, think about, you know, you're not, see, here's a thing like I'm not the voice of anybody. Just shine a light on people or, or repeat what they're saying. But see, this is, you know, to Greg's point about gatekeeping, the media used to feel the elite in the bubble, high and mighty media used to feel they are, they are the little people's voice. But see, with social media now, you don't, everybody's a public person, everybody can be a journalist. That's right. Now, does that diminish those investigative reporters who do incredible work? No. You can have them hand in hand. That's my question. Like somebody like Meg Brock, and not, not calling her out, but like somebody like that, who doesn't have a journalism degree and you don't sense on who does, don't, don't you feel like, well, they didn't earn this? Like I did? Well, she can earn it by being accurate in her reporting, right? Like when you start out, I think I would think, Don, you correct me if I'm wrong, you are the, the true journalist on the show. If you're a citizen journalist, but like a Meg Brock who starts with a Twitter feed and I celebrate her and then daily call it. I bet. I'm not talking about her. I'm, she has, she has, I would argue less wiggle room under the credibility umbrella because she's not working for the quote credible organizations. So she has to nail it from Jump Street or people will dismiss her. And yet to your point about credibility, the fact that it's so organic and real, I think a lot of people on social media would trust somebody locally, like a, a sittles, some of the citizen journalists that we've talked about would trust them more than some of these high paid, high mighty individuals that are at the network level, of course, because the, because you look at motivation of, well, what is the motivation? I use this example all the time during the pandemic. I've got Anderson Cooper lecturing me on getting vaccinated. He says, we'll be right back in the first commercials, Pfizer, I mean, it's bought and paid for it. He's not going to sit there and destroy, you know, whatever Pfizer is paying to advertise and tell you that that shot is utterly worthless unless you're 60 with comorbidities. It's all nonsense. I simply think that he is by excluding the citizen journalists, he's, he's actually missing out. And I hope that his eyes. So you don't need anybody, anybody can be a journalist in, in your opinion, Don, anybody in America? Yes. Can be a journalist. You can be a journalist. You can be. Now, uh, if you go out and you your degree was worthless, then, no, I'm not saying that. I'm saying all of the above. Am I, was I trained? In other words, you do have to be careful. It's helpful. It's helpful to have some information as to how to operate, because if you don't know how to vet situations, if you don't properly word things, if you slander someone, if you put something on social media and you are acting as you're reporting it, and then it's, it's disinformation, misinformation, if it's wrong, you could be held civilly liable. So does it help to have the journalism degree if you're going to start reporting things? Sure. But I'm just saying you, you necessarily, you don't have to work for a big media organization. You do not have to have a pedigree. Really what, what good quality journalism takes is hard work and diligence and passion to your career. I think to your credit, yeah, I think to your credit, the journalism degree is more necessary when you are in the reporter role. If you're in the opinion, entertainment role, I don't think journalism is necessary. Heck, I don't even think broadcast degree, radio TV, communications. There are plenty of people that do talk shows that are, you know, former athletes. I mean, I have a criminal justice degree. I didn't go to school for broadcasting. I taught myself. I mean, that's just the gods honest truth. And then eventually you figure it out. And if you have the ability, you can make it happen. If not, you're going to have to fall back on your degree. Speaking of Bucks County. So Scott Presser, who was Dom Giordano's guest yesterday at Bucks County and they had their Newtown athletic neck, the club, yeah. They did a, CNN did a hit piece, attempted hit piece and Scott Presser yesterday. We're not too happy then. This guy was so influential. During the Aaron Burnett program, so thousands of people saw it. Yes. And I'm just, because they use a lot of video footage in this, in this piece about him in Bucks County standing outside the neck. Yeah. All right. Let's play. Let's play cut 16 a little bit tonight quote the Amish delivered. Those are the words of a man few people know, but a man who was key to Donald Trump's win in Pennsylvania, the controversial conservative activist, Scott Pressler, who's involved in the group Gaze for Trump, a vocal election denier, goes by the Twitter handle, the persistence. He helped deliver that all important must win state for Trump, in large part by focusing on, as he says, the Amish, frat guys and hunters among other groups. And Pressler, as our Ellie Reeve reports, is just getting started. Everybody just big smile, look cute. Scott Pressler is the kind of political figure only possible in the Trump era, going from social media influencer to actual proximity to power. Pressler is taking credit for turning Pennsylvania red. He created a pack early vote action to register voters and targeted the Amish, frat guys, hunters and other groups. His pack got a $1 million donation from Elon Musk. So walk us through how you do it. When I tell the Amish that they can vote a private secret ballot that is mailed to their house and they don't have to have their buggies seem going to a polling location, they love the meal and ballot. But a lot of people sort of come up as social media influencers and then they fizzle out and you actually, you know, took the opportunity and started doing something quantifiable. He was at the Capitol on January 6th and at Trump's return to the scene of his mere assassination in Butler. And Trump took a bullet for us. Last week, Pressler was in Bucks County, Pennsylvania because of a controversy over what ballots would be counted in the Senate recount. A frustrated county commissioner had said some misstated and unsigned ballots would be counted despite the rules. If I violate this law, it's because I want a court to pay attention to it. This went very viral, in part because of Pressler. She apologized at the next meeting. The passion in my heart got the best of me and I apologize again for that. I made a mistake. By the way, what's up with this ominous here? I know solo energy. What do? What's up with this ominous music? Do, do, do, do, do, do. And also the delivery, who's this reporter, who says it also went very viral, what's very viral? Give the millions, they don't want to say that this received millions of views. And they also, the reporter, first of all, what is that delivery? That sounds like somebody in college, who's just beginning to track a package. Is that Abby Phillip after a weed? [LAUGHTER] That's not Abby. No. It's bizarre. But I will say this, that the reporter also really downplayed what happened, that these two commissioners voted to do something that they knew was illegal, one of them said that quite a part out loud, and admitted on camera that she knew it was illegal, then the highest court in Pennsylvania basically slapped that down and said and wrote a stern ruling that this is against the law and clarified it again. And so they broke the law. There are calls for them to step down. That was really downplayed by this reporter. The two things that were not downplayed, though, Scott Pressler is an election denier and he was at the Capitol on January 6th. You know, I love Scott and I think the Twitter handle is very apropos, the persistence because that guy works his you know what off. But let's take a step back and this is not a shot by any stretch at Scott Pressler, who oh by the way, has great hair, another guy has a great hair, everybody's got a great hair but me. Nicholas Jealous. He didn't do anything out of the ordinary. What he did was he capitalized on large groups of people that Kamala Harris ignored. Yeah, frat boys, farmers, hunters, the Amish, I got news for the left wing out there. There are more hunters, frat boys and farmers than there are members of the LGBTQ community. So what you did is you catered to less than 9% of America while ignoring a sizable quantity in the most pivotal battleground state. So Pressler worked his ass off and that's great and all but he didn't reinvent the wheel. He's not some rocket scientist. He just said, I'm going to reach out to people that for some reason, Democrats have abandoned and oh by the way, the previous rendition of the Republican party didn't do a great job at reaching. Let's play a little bit more of this. Pressler and his fans had won, yet they turned out anyway and the room had a kind of intense vibe. Do you think the 2020 election was stolen? It's definitely the stolen. Okay, so can you explain something to me? Why if they can steal an election, why would they steal it once but not this year? Because people were on to them, the divisions and the Democrats made it very hard for them to try and steal it again. Thank you to every single Petrie that showed up today. I think what you heard today is the frustration of people that have been told they are election deniers and here we have a sitting commissioner that's an election denier and we have currently sitting senator about Casey that is also a election denier and it's almost karmic. And yes, that's why in part we were here to take a victory lot. We won and we did a fair and square. If we take that commissioner's words in the worst possible life, let's say she truly meant we'll sort of apply and she could count balance that should be counted. She still failed to steal the election, right? Like you guys still won Pennsylvania and Fox County. So help me reconcile that with the. Yeah, because people reported what was going on and our employers were action injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. If we let them get away with doing this now, just go to interesting 26 will do it in 2020. This was us putting our feet down and saying no enough is enough and we're not going to allow you to do illegal and unlawful actions. See the money. We're going to hold you accountable. Ready? One, two, three. Geez. Come on. I noticed that when you urge people to action, you often include the word peacefully. Is that to avoid another Jan 6 type incident? With all due respect, it's to avoid people like you guys saying that I'm anything but. My motto is to just be super cute, have my data and facts, treat everyone with love and respect. And as you can see, an army of people will follow. And it was a small army, which included followers of a Korean church led by rapper King Bullitt Head. I call myself King Bullitt. He almost seemed like you were taking a bit of a victory lap for turning Pennsylvania in this county red. Absolutely. A lot of people questioned our voter registration. They said Scott, you know, flipping Bucks County to a plurality of registered Republicans. That's not going to translate into results. And yes, a little bit of the victory lot was here to say that for the first time since 1988, we flipped this county and it voted for President Trump. It's kind of, you know, saying to people, no, we're the real deal. wrestler first got attention in 2017 when he worked for an anti-Muslim group and organized marches against Sharia, despite there being no Sharia law in America. He was also involved with gays for Trump. You described yourself as a data guy, but early in your career, you were more of kind of like a social issues, culture war guy like gays for Trump or act for America. Can you tell me about that shift in your career? I have grown in how I approach politics. I see my work in my evolution in politics as the latest foundation and now I am meticulously building on that esoteric understanding of how politics is going to win elections, focusing on demographic groups, get them registered, get them mobilized, get them out to vote. Twice RNC officials have indicated they would hire him, but it hasn't worked out. Still, he's built a loyal fan base. Have you spoken to President Trump since the election? I've spoken to Laura Trump. What'd she say? Our conversations out of respect to her and the Trump family are private, but she was congratulatory. And what about Elon Musk? I think he's a wonderful human being. Have you talked to him since the election? Ah, we've messaged nothing consequential. Don't see the miracle, hallelujah. There you have it. I tell you what. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to play that whole thing. I just thought it was fascinating. Yeah, it was really good. For somebody who's not on YouTube, there are banners that they run visually at the bottom of the screen, one calling him a provocateur and another saying controversial activist helps Trump win PA by targeting Amish. My question to CNN as well as this reporter is how is he a provocateur? How is he or why is he controversial? I noticed that the reporter mentioned multiple times that in the past, he had worked with a group. One of the groups that he worked with were gays for Trump. So is he controversial because he had among the other groups like the Amish or getting voter registrations. He has worked with a group called gays for Trump. Is that why he's controversial? Why did she keep bringing, why is she bringing that up? I thought Trump was against gay people. Yeah, see that's, I find it odd. And so then I wonder, is the underlying goal of CNN to say, hey Amish people, hey Korean church people, hey conservatives, he might be gay. That's what I infer from that. And that's horrible, by the way, to me that is horrible. So what's the agenda? To me, there's an even good first Scott when she says, why do you ask him? What is with her weird delivery, by the way? But why? Oh, why do you say peaceful? Because he wants people to be peaceful because he's a loving, peaceful person. Is he controversial because he went around and said, hey, register to vote. Make sure you're registered. Why is that being a provocateur? Why is that being controversial? Shame on CNN and shame on whoever, I don't know who this reporter is. Who has a very low energy, kind of bizarre delivery. But just by the questions, I think the reporter and CNN are being controversial. And they are being the provocateur. The only thing provocative about Scott Prussler in that video there was the fact that he had the jacket on with the shirt unbuttoned. Showed off a lot of chest hair. Might actually try to pull that look off at the NBC and Holiday Block party. Yeah, I'm going to let my fur out. By the way, the view erupted yesterday, last yesterday afternoon. When Whoopi Goldberg actually shut down on an Evaro. This is my favorite clip of the day. Attempt to fear manga about Trump before he even takes office. Yep. Whoopi Goldberg is telling the Republicans, the alleged Republican to pipe down. It's the same voice of reason in this clip. Play cut one, Phil. What we're all saying is we're going to sit and watch. We're going to wait and see because we can't do anything else except. I'm not going to wait and see. I mean, this guy's for the retribution. What are you going to do? He's doing like, he's not nothing to be done until you know what you're fighting. It's, it's pissing and win doesn't help. You just get away from me. I don't know what I'm saying. I have no false expectations that at 78 he's going to all of a sudden turn. No one doesn't. No one doesn't. Human will be here. And I'm never going to spend it. I spent, I spent weeks telling people that he was apocalyptic. I'm not going to change now. It's not treating every single thing. I think that's why we lose credibility. Well, here's the thing. You lose credibility in many different ways. If you don't know what you're talking about and you accuse him of something, then then they're going to blow it back. That's why I say we need to wait and see exactly what you want to do. Oh, it's interesting. You heard people tune out and you heard lose credibility not once but twice. So if I don't know what, we haven't heard any ratings reports on how the view is doing compared to like MSNBC or CNN. But that's the epitome of self destruction right there. Like if you're ratings start to tank because you just keep drumming up the same garbage repeatedly and you want to go down with the ship, then knock yourself. I guess you know what it really comes down to? It must be nice to not worry about how you're performing in the ratings on television because the contracts are so bloated and you're overpaid and you're not worth remotely close to that. Because I don't know what that's like because I got to work in radio where every day is the Super Bowl, so you know, but that's fine. But double down on a double down. I like how Whoopi is basically shutting her down. Yeah. And she's all over. One day she says something that's like, all right, good for you, Whoopi. And then the next day she's making accusations about a bakery. By the way, is it possible for these women to have a conversation without them all speaking over one another? I mean, the three of us now granted, there's three of us, not four or five, whatever it is. But like, we can have conversations without talking over one another, right? They're, they, they cannot do it. It's called chemistry, continuity, cohesion, and professional believable. But they hardly talk over each other because sometimes you'll, you know, you'll do that in a normal, like with your family or whatever. But it's this, it's, it's, it's almost like Charlie Brown's teacher, but a yippy kind of a thing. Yeah. Well, you know what I do now, you know, since you guys can't stop talking over each other and we've got the 12 of you on the set, we're going to expand this to two or three hours. Because you got so much to say and you won't shut up and let the other person talk. So in order to justify your bloated, worthless salary, we're going nine to noon. Yeah, really. Honestly, it's a great point for, for all the money they're being paid, they should be on there for like three hours. Yes. Can you imagine what you got? No. Denver, the Denver mayor, you've made reference to this earlier in account, the Denver mayor said that he's willing to go to jail to block deportations. This is cut 17, Phil, go. I would certainly protest it. And I would expect other residents would do the same. Trump's new borders are Tom Holman has said that he is willing to arrest leaders like yourself for standing in the way of these policies that they want to enact. Would you be willing to go to jail for these things? Yeah, I'm not afraid of that. And I'm also not seeking that. I think the goal is we want to be able to negotiate with reasonable people how to solve hard problems for public and democratic presidents in the past have all tried to find solutions to these problems. President Reagan helped people get access to work so they could stay and support themselves. Biden Harris worked on restricting entry at the border to close down there. A lot of ways to approach this problem. We don't think it has to come to this. But yeah, I think when you look at Ralph Carr has always been one of my heroes. He was the governor who in the middle of the internment of Japanese Americans said this was the wrong thing to do. And he stood up. It was unpopular. People were mad at him about it. That was the middle of wartime. If the president or any of his actors are going to do things that we think are illegal or immoral or un-American, we'll stand up against them. That's Denver Mayor Mike Johnston who if you're watching on YouTube is all of 113 pounds. He won't last about nine minutes in the booty house. So if you're ready to go to jail boss, then play hardball with Tom Holman. I would not want to test that guy. That's all I'm saying. Well, Tom Holman responded to Mike Johnson by saying this. This is cut 18. Phil, go. Well, look, me and the Denver Mayor, we agree on one thing. He's willing to go to jail. I'm willing to put him in jail because there's a statue. It's title eight in the United States called 1324 Triple I. What it says is, is a felony. If you're knowingly harboring concealed illegal anti-immigration authorities. It's also a family to impede a federal law enforcement officer. So if we don't want to help, that's fine. He can get the hell out of the way. But we're going to go do the job. President Trump has a mandate for American people. We got to secure this country. We got to save American lives. And I find it shocking any mayor of a city would say, President Trump's been clear. We want to concentrate on public safety threats and national security threats. I find it hard to believe that any mayor or government would say, they don't want public safety threats removed from their neighborhoods. I mean, I don't know what the hell's going on in Denver, but we're going to go and we're going to fix it. I love Tom Holman. First of all, he's got the whole triple I thing memorized. He rolls that out all the time. It's like the binder when she always would say, I'm going to have to refer you to the Hatch Act. It's great. And by the way, is Tom Holman who Kamala Harris thought she was picking as a running mate? Remember Kamala Harris was trotting out Tim Walls like Manly? Like, I think maybe she thought she selected Tom Holman, but she actually got Tim Walls fascinating. And again, I don't understand whether it's a mayor or a governor that's ready to triple down on leaving the safety of countless of thousands, if not millions of citizens to what to appease to a small percentage of people that are in your country or in your sanctuary city or in your town illegally. You really might go to jail over that? I wouldn't. This is this video's courtesy of CBS out of New York. The NYPD believes that Venezuela and gang members are recruiting children living in migrant shelters. Hey, you got to start him young, right? Cut that, Phil. Well, growing concern over among the NYPD over Venezuelan gang activity across the city, police believe some gang members are recruiting children living in migrant shelters. As Jennifer Bistraim reports, the gang has blended in with asylum seekers who began arriving here in 2022. Once they commit their crimes, they go back to the migrant community where they assimilate themselves with people that are actually here obeying the laws. The NYPD is cracking down on Trende Aragua. The Venezuelan gang they say is living in the shelter system who needs children. We have 39 members of TDA that have been identified and we have an additional four members that have been identified of a subgroup called the Little Devils. Remember when Trump was vilified for saying that they're not they're not bringing over their best and brightest? That's right. Look at these people. You think there's any rocket scientists in this? In this group of individuals? A zero. Hell no. Hell no. We haven't had any reports done. You haven't reported on Trende Aragua in Philadelphia. I don't recall. I mean, I know your husband does New York radio. I mean, is that a big talking point for them? Yes, New York, definitely. Here they're, well, New York's a sanctuary too, but for us, it's tough for me to get anybody on the record. Yeah, okay. Because it's against the sanctuary laws. Yeah. For them to confirm it. Right. So I have confirmed in the Royersford and Phoenixville areas, allegedly, that the Venezuelan gangs have there's some activity there. Montgomery County cartels. Wow. So the reports that I have are that, yes, the cartels, especially are targeting the suburbs and especially this holiday season. You know, watch out for that. Make sure your cars are locked and your doors are locked, and the porch pirates and the burglaries, especially the cartels. As far as the gangs, the sources I have say, they are here. It's not as bad as what we've seen in Jersey, and especially North Jersey, and obviously in New York. Yeah. I had a source text me last night that said, "Trende Arrodwell was considering Philly, and they saw how bad the Sixers were, and they went else." Oh, we wish. By the way, speaking of crime here in Philadelphia, Don reported on this news story yesterday, but I wanted to bring it up later for the later audience. This is the 39-year-old man who was charged for police say, he shot and killed the 48-year-old man who attempted to steal his car in Philadelphia's Frankfurt neighborhood last week. Northeast? According to police, Sherwin Garrison, 39, had been charged with murder, recklessly endangering another person in possession of an instrument of crime. I want to play the Fox 29 report. It's a really quick report on this, because I want to get back into this discussion, because I believe, I believe that this man is a hero. He's charged with murder? Roll it, though. Is there, is there audio? Oh, no. Is there audio? Are we just going to... Are those the guy who jumped in? Now he's trying to stop him and then... When we say 39-year-old Sherwin Garrison saw the man get into his car while he was using the ATM, his vehicle unlocked and running at the time. Investigators say as the 48-year-old man drove off, Garrison fired his weapon through the car window, shooting the man in the head. Can you just restart it again? Because you can see the video. Phil, if you can just reach out one more time. He's now charged with murder after Philadelphia. You can see the video, he comes out there, takes his car, runs over, pulls out his gun and just shoots. Sherwin Garrison saw the man get into his car while he was using the ATM, his vehicle unlocked and running at the time. Investigators say as the 48-year-old man drove off, Garrison fired his weapon through the car window, shooting the man in the head. All right, so I want to bring this back up to both of you. Murder? Well, yes, I do agree with it. I disagree with you and I agree with it. Look how reckless that guy was. He's stealing your vehicle. You see him run out. He comes around the front of his own vehicle after the guy is in the vehicle. He almost gets hit by another car that has to swarm out of the way to the left. That car almost hits the other car in oncoming traffic from the other direction. He fires through the window, hits him. Ultimately, that guy, the suspect that stole the car, crashes and then he's dead, right on? Yes, the man later died, the guy who jumped in the car. He shot him in the head, right? Well, yeah, and kept driving. And by the way, his name, the deceased car thief is as identified by police. His name is Monir, M-O-N-E-E-R, Monir, Far Hot, Far Hot, Monir, Far Hot. Yeah, look, he's very cold now and stiff. F-A-R-H-A-T. I'm all for stand-your-ground laws in states where if somebody enters your home, you have the right for them. But your car's your property, bro. Yeah, but Pennsylvania is not a stand-your-ground law state. I don't care. And I mean, your car is replaced. So it's not like he was trying to harm you. You, somebody breaks into your house. You don't know if they're trying to kill you or steal your property. That is clear and obvious, as long as you're remotely competent, that it's Grand Theft Auto, I think, would be the technical term. Sure, I could be wrong, correct me if I am. So, I mean, but you haven't, maybe he doesn't have insurance. I'm never going to get the vehicle back, but you know, a car's a replaceable thing. It doesn't matter. The problem is, is this is a, in my opinion, this is a guy who took matters into his own hands. Now, should he have left the car running when he, he, uh, went to run to get money? No, but we, we all do it. And this city is so lawless in the fact that it's not, nobody's going to, cars are stolen all the time, and nobody does a damn thing about it. I agree, but this guy, this guy took it into his own hands. Sorry. As Mama Kale would say, "Nicky, two wrongs don't make a right." I, I understand what you're saying. I understand what you're saying. But, but there's, there's a part of me that is just like, if we had more people that, like, if, if somebody knew that the guy whose car they're trying to steal was armed, they might think twice about doing it. True. And there's, and I'm, I'm in agreement with you. There's a part of me that would love to just jump through the windshield and beat the holy hell out of the guy. But you can't do it. You just can't. And, you know, because of the current defund the police movement, even though it's valid in many cases, that's not a viable excuse. Well, we don't crack down on this stuff anymore. This doesn't give you the right to fire. I've done through a windshield. But let's think about the district attorney's office. So this, this man who in the, the heat of the moment, he's probably what, 20 feet from, because his car is parked right by the sidewalk. He's probably 20 feet from the ATM leaves the car running. And he's now being charged for, for murder for that spur of the moment situation. I, and I believe it's first degree murder, which I can't believe. It's unbelievable. So let's think about the DA. Yeah. I'm the thing I agree with first. Sorry. Let me take you back. Let's, let's think about the summer of 2018, Rittenhouse Square. I remember interviewing the parents of one Michael Schallinger. Remember this story? Yeah. Where a young man by the name of Michael White was, and they were very crafty in how they charged him with like a third degree downgraded charge. The family, and he was found not guilty at the end of the day. It was like third degree manslaughter. So the jury, because of the way that, that it was designed, the jury finds him not guilty because of, of, of that manslaughter charge. He, he, he never served a day. He, he, he was on probation. The, the, the person who stabbed Michael Schallinger in, in the back fatally, an unarmed man, uh, this was insane to me. The, the grieving parents were not even allowed to give victim impact statements. Yep. In this trial, it was horrific, but that's this DA. So somebody who is a citizen who has never had any issue with the law, who's stabbed the death and Rittenhouse Square by somebody. Yep. That, the, the killer of that person never serves a day. And, and, and jail. But DA Krasner thinks this case that we have currently, that this man should be charged with, with murder. I, I agree. It's, it's, to me, it's excessive, but I would say it's manslaughter for sure. I would probably say voluntary manslaughter. Well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like they're saying this. Lawful, uh, killing an individual without lawful justification. Yeah. They're saying there's no premeditation here. So it can't really be. Right. But I, I look, I think that it's a reactionary offense, but it's the wrong reaction. He's a legal, like, it's not like he's a legal gun owner. And like, I get it. We're not, uh, you know, we're not a stand your ground state. But I got to tell you, man, when, when you get, when you have problems in the city, like we have with, with, with crimes not being prosecuted, and he's criminals and he's thugs. Thinking they can get away with whatever they want to. When, when, when fate catches up with them, I'm sorry F around to find out. Like, like too bad. Like this guy, in my opinion, should be held as a hero. Well, I mean, I'm with you on many of the F around and find out things. But I just don't think, you know, stealing property is, uh, the, adjustifiable response is murdering somebody. Now, if he would have assaulted him and beat the crap out of him and then took his vehicle back, let me ask you a question. Somebody goes into your establishment and robs the place. You know what I mean? Like, like doesn't, you know, is, is just, and, and, and you, you, uh, you walk in on them doing that and you fire a gun because there's somebody in there. Depends. Does the, does the robber have a gun himself? So that's the justice. So it's only acceptable if the other person has a gun. I'm just asking. I don't know. I, I would argue if the guy doesn't hit now, if he's trying to, if it's armed robbery, then I think it's more justifiable. I mean, that guy, all he, all that guy had to do. And it's easy for me to sit here and say this as I analyze film on Fox 29. You know, but like, you know, in four seconds, he could have not been charged with murder. If he just, you know, let's it go, drops an F bomb and then don't, don't, don't add an interesting point. Like what if you, what if he just shot the tires out or something like that? Right. Or just say, or just say you were aiming to shoot the tires out and you missed. I was a bad shot. That's true as well. But well, and we see that in this. I mean, Don's crime reports are littered with bad shots, right? But this one unfortunately is right there on, on candid camera. EKZ says, is it me or did Nick and Greg switch bodies? And that's the beauty of the show. You never know where I stand on an issue until I tell you. But the court records are saying that the, the man Garrison, who's the legal gun owner, they, he has, I don't think he made bail. He is being held without bail at current from hold correctional facility, according to the court records. You know, I don't, you know, I don't know what Garrison, he will obviously have a defense attorney who perhaps will say he ran over because out of shock, this guy was stealing his car. I suspect that he will say his defense attorney will say Garrison feared for his life and thought the man had a gun. Yeah. I suspect that's, that is what his defense will be. I would argue probably a lot easier to be the prosecutor in this case than a defense attorney because I don't know, unless you can find precedent of a case, I know you talked about 2018, but unless you can find a case where all of the facts almost match up identically, your argument, your defense of, well, in 2019, you didn't do this. Good luck convincing a jury on that one. That would be my argument. A lot of people that want to jump in on the conversation. Look, look, yeah, look, there's a, there's a, there's a lot of people, uh, who are going to, like, we have a DA and this city is going to use this guy as an example, but I'm telling you, this guy should be, uh, use as an example of what to do, not what not to do, in my opinion. All right. 855 with the time. Take this calls 855 839 1210, uh, let's go right down the board line two, uh, rich in the far northeast, rich, your own talk radio at 1210. Hey, hey, folks, you're all right, uh, in, in certain respects. I'm not up on my 50 states anymore. But in general, it has always been my understanding that you can't go dirty Harry on somebody that's stealing your property. Um, you, and if you don't, and you're right, if you, if you don't have a stand, you don't have to stand around. If the guy puts the car in gear and aims the car at you and starts running the car at you, then you can fire a shot. Sure. But if the guy is backing up and he's fleeing, you can't fire around that. And, and also you can't just crack a round off in the city limits and shoot so many styrops because you can get a ricochet and it can hit somebody else. So you mean this, that's, that's the problem with the firing a shot. You know, to stop him is a ricochet because you have liability. Gotcha. Rich, thank you for the phone call. Uh, let's see if we have, I think we might have some dis differing of views on this. But let's go with a little bit of an expert view of next. Tom is in Percassie, Tom's a former police officer. Tom, you're on talk radio at 1210. Hey, good morning, guys. Great. Stagger sucks Tom. Yes. Oh, yeah. To give you, first of all, to give you some definitions in that, I'll give you my opinion on this. The definition of a burglary is when somebody enters an online structure with the idea of committing a felony. Yeah. So I'm a guy, I'm sending your mercy to the law. I want you to steal stuff. If he does not present himself as a, as you have in a weapon, you can't justify killing him. Right. It's not a felon. Right. Now if you, if he enters your home while you're in a home and you're in bed, that's a whole different story. Now you're justified. Okay. So robbery is stealing from a person. burglary is a step up. Right. And one of the differences, Tom, I forgot to recall when I was at Temple for Criminal Justice, I think you mentioned it. It's the intent to commit a felony. You have to prove intent. Correct. Yeah. Correct. So that being said, in the state of Pennsylvania, the crimes, because well, first of all, training of police officers by MOPEC, which is municipal police, uh, operating, uh, training center, is that even police officers are not permitted to shoot at tires of a vehicle. And the reason why is you shoot the tires out. This now you got a 2000 pound bullet going after anybody. Yeah, that's true. And that, that is also the reason why, um, you can't shoot a guy in a car when he's fleeing. He's stole your property. You can protect yourself and protect others. Let me ask you guys a question. If there is a, if somebody steals my wife's purse and I run after them and I tackle them and I have them in a chokehold and they die, is that, am I charged with manslaughter and murder than two? I don't know. You'd be like Daniel Penny. Like that, that guy can just say, that guy can just say I, I was shooting out. I was trying to shoot out the windows to scare him and oops. I shot him in the head. Come on, maybe come down to eyewitnesses. Yeah. But that probably, but it probably will, it will not stand because again, you're now, when he's at the first of all, the guy in the hell of a shot. Yeah. So I was just going to say that. Hats off him, but he shoot a guy and now he runs over seven people. What do you do? And you know Greg, I agree in the vigilante justice that the city's a mess. But the crimes carried states that that's not justifiable. Now if he was in, if he had entered your garage, got in your garage while you were there and was trying to steal your car, then you could shoot him. Yeah. And the reason he should shoot him is the definition of a person. There you go. Well, then percussy. A lot of people on the, a lot of people on the YouTube chat are bringing up the cast of doctrine. Yeah. You know what I mean? Which says it's illegal to carry a loaded firearm in any vehicle or a concealed firearm on or about a person except in one of two situations. A place of a boat, which is your home, or a fixed place of business. So that was not his house, nor was that his place of business. He's just a citizen out there in free society. I don't think he has much of a defense here is my guess. But that's just me, only with the law school for 88 days. I'm not qualified. I will just tell you that the, the deceased car thief who has an unusual name. So I was looking through some court records just out of curiosity. There is a case from 2007 in Balecinwood on the main line in Montgomery County. And this was a case with the Eastern District of Pennsylvania. It was in federal court against a money or far, far hot. And it was a, he was a convicted felon at firearms charges. So again, I don't know if they're related or if it, or if that I just was, it's an unusual name that's all. And so I did find that and I thought, you know, what is the background of the individual who's the car thief? And so we'll, obviously in court, we'll find out much more about this. But if, if the, the man who shot him or who's charged with his murder can say that this guy had anything in his hand and that he feared for his life, he then will have a better defense against, I mean, they're, they're going after this guy with murder charges and he is not free. He is not, they're not giving him any kind of a bail. He's just just just just just, I also think we're letting our feelings for, and our, by the way, our justified rightful feelings towards Larry Krasner to cloud our judgment on the law. Like we can hate the way Larry Krasner does business, but there's, I don't really see anything in this specific case that says your defense being, well, this DA never does it for blah, blah, blah. But now all of a sudden he wants to blah, blah. I don't, I don't really think that would fly in front of a judge or not. I'm not, I don't think I'm clouded at all. I think that this, I think it's hard to prove that somebody in the panic of the moment actually intended to murder in a premeditated way. I don't think this was, I don't think this qualifies as premeditated murder. Oh, neither do I. Yeah. So, yeah, yeah. So look, we as, if you're a firearm owner and he, and this guy is a legal firearm owner, you have to be fully responsible and trained and not be, you know, trigger happy or anything of that nature, I believe in accountability, but a first degree murder. Yeah, I don't think he willingly and knowingly and intentionally meant to kill this guy. This is to me more like reckless, uh, where he was just completely caught up in the moment and then react from a reactionary standpoint. Well, I got a gun. Yeah, that's, to me, that's just reckless out in public. 855-839-1210. Larry is in South Hampton PA. Larry, your own talk radio at 1210. Yes. If he would have ran out in front of the car and that car lurched forward, he would have every, you know, right to put a hole in his forehead, right? Yeah, I would agree if he was in front of that car and that car guns it. Yeah, but it's because he's behind it, right? He's on the left hand side. Yeah. So, so, you know, you know, a little learning thing, you know, if you're going to try and you got to put your life and by jumping in front of the car and then you have every right. What you were saying is you're not allowed to have a gun in public or in a, you know, or in a place of business or your house is the only place. Well, if you have the right to carry a gun, you don't carry around a gun that's not loaded. It's true. True. That's, you know, that's, that's, that's the wrong way. I don't know where you got the 88 days of, um, I'm looking at it right here from Penn to the Pennsylvania State Doctrine right here. I Googled it. I didn't memorize that. I was reading 10 off of the state website. Yeah, that's wrong, man, because, oh, no, it's not wrong. I'm reading it from the state of Pennsylvania website. We mean, it's wrong. Not wrong. I'm reading it right on the state of the p a dot senate that g o p dot dot wrong, Larry. I didn't get this out of Bob's law school book dot com. I got here wrong. You think I didn't memorize? I'm reading it right here from the stinking website. Wrong. Take it up with a legislator that is wrong. Thought up for debate. That wrong? Sorry. Jesus. Greg in the Northeast. Greg, you're all talk radio 1210. Greg, you go right ahead. Wrong. Who's it? Who's this? Nick Krasner? Yeah. I'd love to get in a courtroom with that guy. Go. No. Here's the thing. How about a novel idea? Everybody? Yeah. How about you don't steal somebody's. Amen. I mean, everybody's wrong and everybody's right here. What first degree murder for this. Yeah. So he's never going to ever scream. No, it's manslaughter. Yeah. Sadly, this is every big city. Yeah. Right. Every big blue Democratic city that they're looking to prosecute the guy first of all, because he discharged his gun and he killed a criminal. That's number one. But this allegedly. Was he reckless? Thank you. Allegedly. Was he reckless? Allegedly, he was also reckless. Yes. So, but how about you don't steal the car and we stop making excuses for these people? Now, let's throw in a different variable, Greg. Let's say that his little daughter was in the backseat of that vehicle. Then it gets really cloudy. Is he justified to shoot if there's a toddler and a child in the back? Well, well, then I got to tell you, I'm a napping. I'm a kid. Then yes, then it's obviously the charges are different. I think I personally would have then fired if I if that was an added variable to the equation. We don't know a thousand questions. How about this? This guy makes a livelihood with his vehicle. So he's not thinking he's not thinking. Oh, maybe I shouldn't let the insurance handle it. I need his car to go to work. It's the I'm holding. I'm taking care of whatever the case may be. That's his livelihood. So his defense is I drive for door dash and I don't have the right to shoot. What if he says what does it matter the job? What if he says he's homeless and you're the one who brought up the job. You said he makes his livelihood by driving. So I'm saying if you're a driver, so he's an Uber driver. He's a Lyft driver. Like you said, he's making his living via driving. Now it's justifiable to shoot and kill the guy. I think it's justified. I do. I do have any losses mine temporarily and said temporary insanity. You ever get in a position where you lose it? This guy lost it. And he happened to have a good shot. I mean, maybe that's his offense. Maybe he could argue I just lost my mind. I don't think it's going to fly. But you know, again, property is replaceable. Human lives are not. That's I think we're forgetting here. Like you can get another. I know it sucks, right? Especially if you don't if you're not insured. It's his property. It's his property. He can do what he wants to it. Like you know what I mean? Like like you are taking his property. All right. I will. I will take the side of the process as far as who can win the case and who will lose the case. I will wager on the prosecution winning and getting a guilty verdict of some degree. Of course, because crazer is going to yet crazer is going to make an example of this. We are not a long city. You know, you know, you know, I can't stand Larry crazer, but I do not think the district attorney's office is wrong in bringing charges against this. Now, first degree murder is wrong, in my opinion, because I don't think there was intent. I think this was reckless voluntary manslaughter. But if he says, and we'll see if he spoke to police initially, but if this, if this man who's being held and without bail says, Hey, I felt the guy had a gun. He was looked like a me threatened me and I thought he had a firearm. And I fired because I thought my life was in danger. Yeah. Now, what did you say about it? What did you say about a loaded gun in a vehicle? According to PA Senate GOP.com. So state website firearms and castle doctrine. It is illegal to carry a loaded firearm in any vehicle or a concealed firearm on or about a person, except in the place of a bode or fixed place of business. But if you have the legal license and you're traveling to her from, I think, target shooting, right? And plus he wasn't technically in his car. Do we know this guy was coming from target shooting with a band? Did he just leave the right? McDonald's drive through? And this is why I'm carrying a draft. I think there are all kinds of provisions because he has a license. I think, you know, there there are enough provisions for him that that one wouldn't stick. Okay. Sam is in Boyer town. Now we're going to get all the different equations. I know, right. Sam, you're on talk radio 1210. What is your scenario, sir? First good morning, everybody. I'm more example. Well, I listen to you guys all the time. Thank you. So I just, I just had a question. So I'm listening to all this go back and forth. So I have a concealed carry permit. Now I'm not 100% burst on the law, but if I have a concealed carry permit, I could carry my weapon in my car on my person, load it to my knowledge. Yes. Somebody tries. Right. So if somebody tries to carjack me with my family in my car, and I just turn and, you know, say use my weapon to keep my family safe, am I going to jail? Now, here's the difference. This guy was not in his vehicle. So is that constant? Is that constitute a car jacking? I mean, I know that's not technically the current term, but it's a car. I would agree with you, Nick, because I don't believe that he had the right to do that. The guy's already driving away with your car. Right. You know, there's no chocking up as a loss against your insurance company. Yeah, you cut your losses and call it a day, and you try to bounce back in the whole bit, right? Right. One of the reasons I called is because somebody said you can't carry your gun in your car, load it. But if you have the proper permit, I believe that you're allowed to, because you know, the open carry law is you can walk around, open carry. Yes. But as soon as you get in your car, now the gun is concealed, correct? Yes. And that could get you in trouble if you don't have a concealed weapons permit. Yep. By the way, I hate that. I hate that law. And thank you for the call, Samuel, and the, you know, carrying a weapon. I remember my brother-in-law told me this story a few years ago of some, some mom that was registered, carried a gun following all the law, and it went from PA into New Jersey or PA into New York. And they have, you know, is it reciprocity? Yes. Like if you are a gun owner and you're a law abiding citizen with all of those proper documents and you've gone about the right way, I hate the fact that you could forget that you have it go into a state like that and end up serving mandatory minimums. I despise that with a passion. I wish that that was somehow we could wipe that out from like a federal level, but it's a different story for a different day. Let's get, let me see if we can grab one more. Let's get Christian in Abington. He claims self-defense. Christian, you're on Talk Radio 1210. Well, more than anything else, what it has to do is incredible threat was the gentleman, a threat to him at that point in time. That's really your, your greatest sticking point. It's the reason why you can't shoot someone in the back while they're fleeing your house after they've robbed you. Also, the castle doctrine, and this is, this is where it gets a little bit weird, is that that is for people who do not have concealed carry permits. Okay. That's a completely different equation. Okay. It's like you can walk around with at your house, or you have to work, you know, because it's private property assuming, and they can create the rules that say, "Yes, you may carry here." But if you have a concealed carry permit, it's a completely different equation. Also, if someone else is in the car and it's a car jacking, you are now acting in defense of that person, and that is significantly different than someone just stealing your car. You're now acting in defense of that person. So it has to do with credible threat to an individual and the use of lawful force. But I would also say that when you discharge your firearm, you know bullets kill. So there is always the possibility of killing someone. You can't just say, "Well, I just wanted to wing them." Right. If I ended up killing them, whoopsie, sorry. Right. It doesn't, it doesn't really work. That's right. Christian, great stuff. Appreciate the phone call. We'll continue on. 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