(light music) Are you my podcast? Are you my podcast? Are you my podcast? Are you my podcast? Are you my podcast? Are you my podcast? Are you my podcast? Are you my podcast? - Hey, Sarah Kelowna, it's Mary Rodinsky Comantilla from the East Coast and home. Just another one of those nights. How are you, girl? - Just another one of them nights. Yeah, that's my new song. I'm good. I have different feelings about a lot of people today. - Me too. - All over the map, as we always do. I have some sympathy for some people I didn't think I would, but then also I don't. So it's a mix back today. - Yeah, roller coaster of every emotion for like the same person happens to me several times with several different people throughout the episodes. And it makes me feel like I'm going crazy. It makes me feel like I'm the one who's unsound and not stable. - Does it make you feel like you're the math soul? - Yes, I am the math soul. 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Who do you wanna start with from this shit storm? - Who do I wanna throw throughout the window, or who do I wanna talk about? Okay, I think we could start with M.M. in a cagey, maybe? - Yeah, yeah, pretty mild episode for them. - Yeah, I just have a, all right, let's see. - You gotta be in your bonnet. - I do have a be in my bonnet, and I would say that if anybody who's been listening to this podcast is since we've started this season, I, EKG comes off slippery and fake to me a little bit, okay? He wasn't that bad this episode, right? - Right. - But we also didn't see a lot of them, so I have to take that into account. 'Cause I'm like, am I too hard on him? But I think he, when he gets airtime, he goes hard in the paint, selling his waxing poetic and his books and all his things in the smooth talker that he is, but we just didn't see that much of him. - Yeah, we didn't see a ton. We didn't have the chance to see him get emotional, and then basically stare her down like, wait, you're not getting emotional, but I just made myself cry, bitch, why aren't you crying? - Yeah, what are you dead inside? - Yeah. - Yeah, they let us to believe there was gonna be a little thing about wanting kids, but there wasn't. That was just a false flag from a editing, right? But they kinda made it seem like it was gonna be a big deal. Is that the right term? Anyway, it doesn't matter, but it is now. - Okay. - I see false flags all day long every day. (laughing) - Yeah, they seem fine. They talked about, there was a lot of, there was a lot of like, tell me how you like to be loved. - Oh, that dried my pee right off. - Could you, what would you do? Tell me how you like to be loved. The only person that I would allow that to say that to me would be like, I don't know, like a waitress or a server at a food place, at a pizza place, I'll be, I'll tell you how I like to be loved. - Pepperoni, don't be, try to be serious with that. That's embarrassing. - I know. Tell me how you like to be loved. If John ever said that to me, I just walk out the front door and not come back, and then I would be like, that's how. - Yep, exactly. - Alone. - Yeah, the back of me. No thanks. - Yeah. It just, these conversations, but she liked it. She says we, you know, I like physical hand holding and that kind of intimacy. She thinks he pays attention to her cues. He asked if she'd been in love, and then she said yes with her ex-fiancé. And then he starts talking about when he was in love before. - Oh, what a surprise. - Yeah, it's, when you and Amy last week, shout out "Little Miss Recap" for joining us last week, when you and Amy pointed out that he just asked questions so that he could answer them, now I can't. If you guys ruined it even more from me. - I can't unring that bell. - No, it can't be un-runged. Nope, it is hard-runged. Yeah, he brought up his brother and sister-in-law a couple of times. This is the example of the kind of love he wants, which is great, it's nice when people have good examples around them of people. But yeah, it just, his whole conversation felt like he was just waiting for her to shut up so he could answer his own questions. - Oh, yeah, it's literally, he's just lobbing up softballs to himself, you know? Like, "Oh, so what's your favorite?" Mine, I mean, before she's even done talking. And then, you know, he, to camera or something, he's like his feelings are growing quickly and it's scary, you know, compares it to a rollercoaster ride. But then, when she's trying to go to bed, he's all turned over, lights off, and she's the big spoon. I think he is going to try to get out of this as the nice guy by they will not have any physical intimacy. - I 100% agree with you. I don't know what his problem is. And listen, it's fine if it just doesn't work. If someone's just not attracted to someone and doesn't work, I got no beef with you, at least you tried. And at least you're in the process and you're giving it a try. I don't know that, I feel like he's not really giving her a chance 'cause it does feel very friend-zoned already. - Yeah, but he's saying all the things. You know what I mean? - I know. - Like, it's like, to me, their interaction or their lack of physical attraction in their friend-like nature actually feels quite natural to me. I think if I married a stranger, I'd probably be one of those unless you have some crazy connection right out of the gate. But he said, "How do you like to be loved?" You know, "Who loves you?" But it's like, "Okay, I mean, don't stay that shit and then make her be the big spoon." - I know, 'cause I don't even really understand the honey pack thing. - Oh yeah, what, I don't either. - Is that, sorry guys, if we're clue to clue to this, ladies who don't know anything about, is that supposed to be a romantic thing at the end of the night when they leave the little honey sticks for you? - Is that, are you supposed to, in my head, it's either something nice and tasty to kind of help you fade away to sleep, but you're not supposed to have sugar on your teeth after you brush, right? And then I don't know. - Good point. - But then is it so they could lick it off each other? - I don't think so, 'cause it's a pretty small packet. Yeah, I didn't really understand, but either way, she, maybe it's like her trying to be suggestive with it, was the fun, but either way, he's not having it. Yeah, and he seems a little, it's a little passive aggressive the way he's kind of joking, like, "Get off me, "my mom's watching," it wasn't too much, but it just, just because we've seen how he's been acting, it felt a little bit like, if he could be like, "Get the fuck off me," he would. - Well, yeah, can we, I mean, can we go back an episode or two, or when I'm one of the group settings, and they were all like, "Oh, you gotta look at you guys, "you guys are so into each other, they're kissing," and he's like, "Oh, I wanna take my wife, "and I just wanna leave you guys, go back to the room," and then he acts like that. So I don't like it, I don't like it at all. - Yeah, it doesn't, in case you're just wondering, I'm just texting John to ask him if I could have a vodka cherry splash. - I totally knew that's what you were doing. - I know, I just bought myself a new 12-pack today, when I went to the grocery store to stock up for the week, 'cause my stepmom's coming, and those weren't for her, those were for me. Anyway, sorry, back to the show. - I like that, I like to say, while we're recording this, Mark may or may not be out in the greater Rochester area looking for it for me, because we couldn't find it last night, the one way, I took conspiracy wherever I am. Anyway, back to M.M., in a cagey. - Yeah, it just doesn't, I don't, I really feel friends, I feel like it's friend-zoned, but then like you said, maybe he's just trying to, it's like, yes, his verbal and his physical are not matching up. - No, I don't know. - Right? And I'm not saying they should be boning or doing it, but just a little more affectionate instead of like, get off me, and then you have to be the big spoon, like you said, and go to bed. And also, what's his situation with dogs? He seems real upset about having to walk a dog. - I know, he's brought it up a bunch of times. I mean, if, yeah, what's the problem? - I mean, first of all, I would imagine experts, knock, knock, if you guys are still on the show, it's me knocking on your door to ask a question. I would assume pets come up, are you okay with a dog, are you okay? If you're not, say you're not. - Right, right. Because obviously she has a dog, she loves her dog, people that have dogs like their dogs, most of us like our pets. And then all of a sudden, he just seems hung up on it, which is, I don't trust anyone that's that worried about having a dog. - Yeah, and have they had a lot of secret conversations off camera about how she's like, you better walk my fucking dog every morning. Like, that's why he, what he's acting like. And I swear when he brings it up to her, she's like, okay, like, yeah, okay. I don't, didn't ask me to, but. - Yeah, exactly, just 'cause you guys got married, I mean, doesn't mean that all of a sudden, she's like, oh, just was waiting all these years to find someone to walk my dog for me. So I could just not do it anymore. She's still gonna walk her own dog, but it just seemed like a weird beef for him to have that threw me off. And I don't really understand what's happening. - Yeah, you know what, even just talking through this fairly benign interaction that we had with them tonight, I still gotta be in my bonnet about him. I think, I honestly think, we don't have a lot to say 'cause he didn't get a lot of air time. And so we gotta buckle up for next week or something because he's, everything is fitting his narrative. You know, he leads the conversations. He asks these like deep thought-provoking love questions. He's the one calling the shots on everything. And he's the one rolling over saying, don't touch me. It's whatever. Two minutes in you. - I know. - I know, well, at least we know he doesn't have a book called Letters to My Future Dog on his website that we have to worry about hearing. Although don't give him any ideas, you know? I know. Well, if he's listening, he's probably not taking any ideas from us anyway, so it's okay. - I know. I was already thinking about probably how disliked we are by the cast and we've gotten wind of this podcast. And I know I shouldn't think about it. I just don't have an ability to wait to see it out. I'm very much reacting in the moment to what we're seeing. And that's just the way it is. - It is what we're doing and we try to be very fair. But when we see the red flags are coming and this isn't personal attacks. Except a little bit on Michelle when she was being so mean last week. Yeah, that's a different story. When I just feel like you don't have the self control to be a nice person, what's happening here. I'm gonna call that out, but whatever. Anyway. - That's not personal. - No. That's reacting to what you're seeing to see how somebody's treating somebody. - Let's just get better friends 'cause they should have kept you off camera. But Camille and Tom, there wasn't a lot with them, but I got a little nervous now that they're gonna be friend zone two. I got nervous because I love them both so much. I just think they both seem like genuine people. No bullshit. Nobody's here for anything, but what they really are looking for. That's the impression I get. - I know. - And I thought the salsa dancing was cute. Were you lying his ass to? - No, but I guess you were. (laughing) - I was gonna say this is what I just, it's like just couple of old dirty ladies or maybe lady. I don't have to include you in it, but yeah, but what a, just a tight fit. He just had for it a nice, nice, very pronounced behind in those, and he just, it was really cute. And then I feel like later, was it later in this episode, he said something about like, oh, you gotta keep me in check with my, how tight my pants and shirts are or something about that. And I was like, well, somebody forgot to talk to you before that salsa lesson unless, listen, I'm hormonal, but he just, what a little cutie. He was so nervous during salsa lessons. And he was fucking up a little bit, but he was trying and he was just so nervous and it made me, it makes me nervous for him. 'Cause I know, I have to imagine this guy, he's a fun guy, he's a guy's guy, but he also has a sensitive side, but I think he's very, very aware of the cameras. I think you and I would be like that too, if we were on this show where it's like, you almost can't be 100% yourself. You can't be like, Ikechi, who's just, you know, dropping lyrics and shit, like, oh, this is just so normal with this camera crew around me. I like when someone's a little nervous because it's human, I agree with that a lot. I 100% agree, it's nice because they're human, it immediately makes you like them 'cause he's trying so hard. And she is joking about, she's like, his dancing's unique, but he's trying. She appreciates him. And other than they had this moment of the cultural differences, the way they grew up, which again, I was about to scream experts. Was this, did you know this was gonna be a big deal or what? But I did feel a little more relieved. I did watch "After Party 2" and she made it seem as though she felt bad when she watched that back, almost like, oh, I didn't even really mean for it to be that big of a deal. I was just kind of expressing this little thing and, or not a little thing, but a thing to him and maybe I didn't do it well enough to where he had hurt his feelings and he took it too personally. So that made me feel a little bit better. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah. - I think so, I think, I totally get where she, this wasn't like a pointed thing she was bringing up to him to make him think that he wasn't good enough or he didn't match what she, I think she was just explaining sort of her past and the people that, just culturally what she's been into, but I think it stung him and she wouldn't know that because this has been something that's been brought up to him or an issue for he and his brother growing up. So I think that's where it was like this dub extra layer, had it maybe not been something he had dealt with in the past, you know. - Good point, yeah. - So I think it was complex, but it seems like, well when it first that scene where it's just him at nighttime talking to a camera, it's like what are those like, I don't know what to do with the body, you know, like Blair Witch, I was nervous. - Yeah, I thought it was gonna be way worse, but it was not, it seemed. - Yes. - And yes, he obviously, he has that very different upbringing and I can see and so he's already dealt with that. So she don't, I don't think she even meant to add that layer to it. - No, she didn't. - And so I felt a little better when I saw an after party, her reaction to that 'cause I thought, okay. - Yeah. - Maybe this is fine. You know, he bangs his head on lamps. He, he, he's not, she's not breaking out the lingerie yet. I, fair enough, I think it's totally fine. - I think it's great that she showed that she had it just in case the vibe was there. Maybe she could have kept it to herself to just so nobody felt any pressure, but also I think it was flirty and cute that she showed it to him. So it's whatever she wants to do, I'm all for. And I don't feel any need for them to have to, to push anything along any faster. I think they're bonding. - Yeah, I, I thought it was cute when he, when he did the little rose petals for her. And, but I am worried that they're friend-zoned. - I am too, see, I thought it was cute that he did the rose petals, but then did it not feel kind of bad right after that when she comes out with like a sleep shirt on and is like, yo, that was cute. But, and again, all the respect and I totally support her decision to be vocal and upfront about, you know, what she wants to do intimacy wise or not do, should we say. But I just, I think he thought maybe, I think he likes a couple drinks on vacation. And I think he thought, hold on a second, I'm gonna spread these out. And he did the nice little heart. And then you saw what she said on the after party about the rose petals. - Oh, that the ants took over, yeah, I mean, talk about when you try to do something nice and then just get, there's nothing worse. You're like, I'm worried, I brought in all the ants. - Yeah, made it real romantic. Like when, bro, that story when John had the whole room covered in rose petals in Cabo for her anniversary. And I got so annoyed. Cause I was like, yeah, there's fucking rose petals all over the place. (both laughing) - I was like, I'm gonna clean him off this stick. - John riot, yeah. You're like, he's like, he put all this effort in and just to make the most in. You're just like, I could just see the snarl as you're, if you're peeling them off, you're sweaty little pigs coming out of your flip flops. (both laughing) - Such an asshole. (both laughing) - That's my girl. - But we're already in love guys, so it's gonna be fine. - Yeah, that you can actually get away with once the love's already been established. You can maybe be a little bit of an asshole about rose petals. - I think it was the hotel's idea to be fair. And so I was annoyed at them, but I think John was like, God, I think they were just trying to do something nice. Sorry that there's a couple rose petals floating in some water. So offensive to you. - I feel like you were probably on your laptop about to do like a one star Yelp review. And he's like, I think they were just trying to be nice. And you're like, oh, right. And you just close your laptop really slowly. - Just maybe a couple, two margaritas and too much sun that day, we'll see. But yeah, that, it did feel a little, oh, he was trying to be cute. And he thought maybe there was at least gonna be a little make out or something. And she was like, cool, I'm gonna go put on not the lingerie. - Right. - And they were like, the matter how long it takes. ♪ Gotta be, I gotta be, yeah ♪ ♪ I gotta be, yeah ♪ ♪ Gotta be what ♪ I don't know, it just, it's all it said. ♪ Oh, gotta be, gotta be, gotta be, yeah ♪ And I really liked it, but I wanted an ending too. And I wanted to know what they gotta be, but it didn't say. - Yeah, well, they gotta be cleaned up. Those answers were walking around. - Yeah, I still, I please let them be okay. They're the only ones, listen, they liked their apartment. They like wine, you know, I like how she asked him if he's freaking out when they got to the new living situation. He said it's oddly comfortable for me, but then she's nervous. And but I like how she said, don't be too nice to me. Don't be afraid to hurt my feelings. I want you to be direct. And I hope he takes, you know, ownership of that. I hope he takes it to heart. - She's definitely being very vocal about wanting him to be more, lead more and not be worried about hurting her feelings and this and that. And I think it's good because you can tell he's a super nice guy and she's not doing it in a Madison, hey, get your shit together way. After she's just saying, if, if, I know we're just, we just met and I know we're just on vacation, but if just so, you know, these are the things that I like giving him, just giving him the rope to, to figure out what I mean. - To hang himself. - No. - Hopefully not. - I know. - No, I don't want it to be that. I don't, but I do think before we get into Carla and Juan, 'cause they should be next, I feel. Let's just, just just remind everybody if things don't work out and you do listen to this podcast, you always have Dame, Dame, Dame. It's the holidays, they're coming and so are you. It's my favorite line to say. And Dame, you guys can use that if you want. 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Trust us, dame.com, dame.com, R-U My Podcast 30. I feel like most of our cast is gonna be hitting those up for solo sashes. - I know, and I hope they do it now. They see the writing on the wall because 30% off is a nice deal, it's a good point. - Well, so Carla and Juan, look, she, Carla is a delight. She's actually, she's really helping this season be a little more enjoyable by being just who she is. And, but this whole thing tonight where he says he forgot about her, which was really dumb on his point. It came out in left field, it even surprised me. When she made that pouty look, I think I made it too. It was, it was a little fun. - It was a little like, wait, you don't say that. But, and then he explained on after-party, I was just trying to say I've been in the moment and I should have said that. He's like, it was a completely asshole move. He owned up to it, but we, I'm glad in he told her this later, you can't turn around and just be petty, Betty. - Yeah, I mean, she held that grudge for a while. - Yeah, well, so I was confused. So I was very glad I had, was able to watch after-party because I was very confused. And for those of you that didn't see it, I know our Canadian friends don't get to see after-party. When, 'cause I didn't understand why I was holding the bag with his clothes, he did it-- - Pracing bag. - Yeah, it felt very unclear in her telling of the story to me, but then as it was edited. But then on after-party, Keisha was also confused. So what it came up with was he, she had been carrying a bag around the beach bag the whole time, so when they would need to change or you didn't event, went to, went to the cenote, whatever, she would have, oh, put your stuff in my bag. And then because she was mad at him, she decided I'm not bringing the bag, and you have to meet me directly at, meet me downstairs, and then he came from something and then he had to go ask for the front desk for a bag and all they had was a trash bag, and then he started, and then on after-party, he was calling it his prison bag, which was funny. Still very silly and seems like very petty and silly, but I thought to myself, I don't think he's gonna learn anything from that, this seems like the most ridiculous payback you can ever do, but then we found out on after-party, she also went and sat at a table with one of the other women, I forgot which one, one of the other-- - Oh, yeah. I think it was Michelle, maybe, or Mason, one of the other-- - Yeah, one of the, one of the other two who doesn't wanna sit with their husbands, and they got a table by themselves and she completely ignored him and he had to go sit by himself at breakfast and she just didn't even acknowledge his existence, which I think that would have been a little more powerful for us to see on the show-- - Right. - Than him dangling the bag around 'cause I was confused, but just, we can't be five-year-olds at the, when I understand when you get your feelings hurt and you wanna throw a fit, but I'm hoping that she knows to just be a little more, hey, don't say that shit to me. Don't say you forgot about me. - Right, right. - And I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go take a minute, hopefully not a full three days, like Michelle takes, when she takes a minute, but just not, this isn't the right way to fight back, she's a little petty, but it was also funny. - It was, she is interesting, she's entertaining, and I do like her, she's, and again, I like them all until proven otherwise, but no, I see, I liked when Keisha sort of said to Juan on "After Party," she said, "Meeting you in person is a little bit different." On the show, we see you in the beginning, you know, suave, kind of like very, I don't even know what words she used, but like, you know, whatever she said, but she's like, in person, you're just really quirky and fun and kind of lighthearted, and she said, "I see that more with you in person, "and I can see why they paired you and Carla up, "or why they matched you up." And I, her just even saying that out loud, sort of put, sealed it for me, like, yeah, I agree with that. - Agreed, I do too, and I think she might be a little more lighthearted than he is, as far as just overall life things, in from what we're hearing, he's talking about how he's very regimented and all these things, but I like that he called her out for handling the conflict the way she did. He says, "You just need to communicate it to me." And she agreed, but when they did that weird little photo shoot in the cenote, it was, she was still pouting, she can really hold a grudge. I'm a little bit worried about Carla. It's, again, I go back to, "I'm all about love and light "until you cross me, until you've, "I'll cut a bitch." - Yeah, yeah. - And he was cute in this cenote when she was feeling a long, she was over it, and she was feeling a little comfortable with going underwater, I think, and just also just, she was probably just like, "Can I have some fun instead of be doing this "photo shoot, I'm just over it?" And he was sweet, he was sweet about it. - I can't imagine a fresher hell than having to be underwater and look like you're not underwater and kiss someone. And I mean, her grudge might have been over. She was just, this sucks. This was the, like, I got the shit end of this deal. And I liked that, though, when he, without "I'm over it," like, she said it to almost where she didn't want anyone to hear, and he's like, he was supporting her. He was going along with her, like, "You're over it, okay, cool." You know, and that clearly, it's all she wants. That's all she wants is for, to feel like, 'cause I just think he is kind of like, again, he's explained to us, vacation one is different from every day, Monday through Friday one, okay? But vacation one is a real fun son of a bitch. He's a real, he likes to have a good time. So even him saying like, "Oh, I basically forgot about you." I honestly think he was trying to be sort of funny in a hard way, you know? And I think that she, all she wanted was for him to just say, "I'm sorry, you know, I'm sorry, that hurt your feelings." So, yeah, she definitely, and to, of course, and I'm not talking about the money thing at this point right now, but overall, of course, we all just want someone to get when we're frustrated and get when we're, and know as the guest on afterparty, he was great. Now, of course, I forget his name, but as he pointed out, nobody's a mind reader, well, that was about another couple, but we'll get to that. But I think, of course, she just wants to feel taken care of and feel like, "Oh, I mean, even if it's a lie," just say like, "I kind of missed you a little bit, but I had fun with David." - Right, right. - Hope that you got to, 'cause of course, that she started talking about how she's taken on everybody else's energy. - I know, Jamie. - And so she's got it when he told us on afterparty, by the way, that she's an actual tree hugger, because I hear that term and-- - I never knew what it meant. I thought it was, I thought it just meant you're trying to be. - Yeah, like you're trying to save the trees and you care about the environment, this and that, or care about trees, but he's like, "No, she, when she feels stressed out, she goes and hugs the tree." And I thought, "Well, I like to see that." - Yeah, yeah. - Show me that, show me when she went and hugged the tree in the cenote, and they were all like, "That has poison on it, you're not gonna wait." - Yeah, I could see her ripping the bark off herself quicker than, "Yeah, I didn't realize that." But she's just trying to get that positive energy and be grounded, Sarah, okay? - Well, go hug the tree instead of ignoring him at breakfast then. I mean, there's a lot of trees around, it looked like. You could've just walked out to down, "Hold on, before I go order my eggs, I gotta go hug this tree so that I could be nicer to one." And then-- - I go tickle this tree's balls real quick right back. (laughs) - But yeah, it's funny because I really connected with her saying she needs to decompress when she gets home. - I thought of you, Sarah, because of the story I completely thought of you. - I am 100% that way, and I get it. I get coming home and making the adjustment of I have to consider someone else. I didn't get married 'til I was 40. So for me, I didn't ever have to do that before. And I've seen some people think getting married at 40s too late because instead you can know each other all that. No, I disagree for me personally. It was right for me to get married at 40. - You're more set in your ways. - But you are more set in your ways, so there is that little battle, but you have to be aware of it. So I liked that conversation they had because John and I have had similar conversations where he knows if I come home from a weekend of shows, the last thing I want to do is walk in the door and start yapping again. I've been on stage all weekend and I've been greeting people and I just feel I get a little overwhelmed by that stuff. I love it, but it's just natural to kind of want to come home and just decompress. And that's where I was when I worked on Chelsea Lately. I have a writer's room all day, everybody screaming. I just wanted to go home and talk to nobody. And I got to 'cause I was single then. - Right, right. - But so I was glad she communicated it because it is something that, and she has to be aware that there's another person involved now. So just coming home and doing that, it doesn't, just because that's what you need and what you do doesn't mean it's gonna be the right thing for you guys as a couple. You can say this is, I need to at least some time when I get home from talking all day and, but I understand that it's not fair to you for me to just kind of shut you out. So how can we figure this out? And that's kind of what they did, which I thought was good. - Yeah, like he needed, he's like, that's not gonna fly if you just come home and ignore me. But if I know this ahead, we do a little high five or fist bump and I'll give you your time. I feel like that was a very productive conversation with them. And it's in those little moments where I think, oh my God, wait, are they gonna make it? - I know, I know, they might. - They might, I honestly think they might also. - Yeah, I think they might because they're... - Are we just saying that 'cause we're pretty sure Camille and Thomas are out. We're trying to keep it a little bit hopeful. - No. - No, I don't think, don't say Camille and Thomas are out. - No, they're not, I can't, I can't, I can't. In fact, her being so sort of responsive to what he, the thing on afterpredict, she gave me a little more hope that she feels bad because they're still together and she's sorry that she heard him at one point. - Oh, okay, okay, thank you for that, thank you. - That's what I do sometimes. - Fill my hope tank, thank you. - I will, I'm here to fill your hope tank. But now I'm gonna deplete it with, but I don't think you have any hope for these two anyway. Let's do Michelle and David first 'cause I have, I feel like I have more thoughts about Madison and Alan this episode, especially that me is gonna carry us to overtime 'cause I'm not gonna be able to get it all out. But so Michelle and David. - Yeah, you know, just having a hard time, she is 'cause she didn't get the husband she pictured. And you know what? She's just gonna quit being so hard on herself. - I, Mary, thank you. - What? - I've never, I really, I was yelling. I mean, when were you being hard on yourself? And in a way I get what she means. I'm being, I'm being, I'm just like, no, I don't actually 'cause you're not being hard on yourself. I guess it's maybe in your mind you are, but you're only, we're only seeing you being hard on another person. And that's why it's so hard for us to not feel like you're just being a complete asshole. And when she talked on after-party a little bit tonight, I think it was her first appearance 'cause she said she was nervous, right? And I don't remember her being on before. And Keisha did say, what took you so long to have fun because they showed them, quote unquote, having fun, that paddle boarding. I mean, it wasn't that fun, let's not. - Can we talk about the fact that the only clips they showed on after-party with her were clips where she was not being a miserable, meanie pants to David? And I think those were the only two clips they had. And those are the ones they used because the rest of them, she looks like, again, a varsity twat. And I don't, in my head, I'm like, did she lawyer up before she got there? Like, how did they, they tiptoed? Like, I go back to like last season and like clips they show of Emily or different thing, whatever, whatever. They tiptoed around this girl on this episode. - They did, they did. I don't know if she, and I don't know if it's 'cause they know she's probably taking a little bit of a beating from the public on her treatment of another human being, which is what the problem is. The problem, and again, it's every season I gotta hear. He's not what I pictured. He's not, well, he is, you asked, he actually is what you asked for in some ways, but I get it when she talked about the one thing, not I get it, but when she said the one thing on after-party. And again, for those of you that didn't get to see it, she explained that growing up, they had a, she grew up in a very small town, like drive your tractor to school day, like very small area. And her, she had a family dynamic that was very hard. And so for her hearing, even though it sounded like her family lives like all close together. - Right. - I forget exactly which says something about, what did she say? - She said. - The parents struggled like money-wise a lot. And so I think she was basically saying that's, so when David comes to me that he's living with his parents to let this age, I equate that with, now we're gonna struggle, right? - Right, right. Yeah, that there may be a lack of stability. Maybe, you know, and again, I hate these, we're triggering, but whatever, made her think back to a time that didn't feel so great as she was growing up. But even the way she verbalized it on after party, she just says that it was the shock factor, that it never crossed her mind that someone their age would be living at home. Now, I would like to just point out one additional thing. Of course, you know me, I'll try to, anyway, it was brought up in the past when David would talk about living at home with his parents. I know he lives somewhere else and da, da, da, da, da. He's also helping his parents out. Like he's, I think he's paying money. He's helping his parents out. And some families depend on each other. I know a lot of people in my world, that that's not something to be ashamed about. And so every time she brings it up, I wanna say listen, that he also has a family dynamic where he's very, very close with his family. I'm not saying I would find it attractive either, but I don't think you can shit all over it. - Exactly. - Just you can't shit on it, it might not be for you. You've said it 47 times already, fucking move on, and we know what you're gonna say on decision day. You don't have to constantly keep just beating him up about it and shaming him. It's just really getting on my nerves. - No, and thank you, and that was a good rant because it was actually, it's, I was trying to pinpoint how I felt about it because I, I'm not saying that I wouldn't be like, who do I don't know? - And that's, I don't know, especially in the tense situation that you're in, but to your point, you said it. And so then you don't have to, every time it's a dig, it's not, he has a different dynamic. He's done the thing that I, that it's different than I expected. Instead it's like, I just never thought anyone on our age would love at home. It's like you may, she just, she takes it to the, to the, to the just the bottom, to where it can't be anything but a huge negative. And, and even honestly at this point, she was tr, she said she was trying to be a good sport. I, I thought it was trying to, it was honestly painful to watch her try to have fun. - Oh, it's easier to watch her be a bit chic as it was more. - Yeah, it's way more comfortable 'cause it's more natural, you know? - I feel like, I mean, whatever those producers said to her on that boat that just got her, to got her to go, yeah, you know what, you're right. We haven't had any fun yet. And I'm going to try to take a win. Then they go to the make the sushi and she's shooting on it for that. And she's, when he looks, when he says he can't use chopsticks, she looked like she wanted to take a pair and drive him through his eyeballs. I mean, it's not that big of a deal that this guy can't use chopsticks. Who cares? - Oh, God. - Oh, when he said he prefers to eat with his hands or something, I mean, she just looked like she should have just taken a walk right into the ocean and not come back because she was not having it. - I, Sarah, I, there have been some very uncomfortable situations with these two, but this sushi meal, if you will, took the cake from me. I wanted to crawl up into my own asshole and hide when she asked him, 'cause he said to me, he was like, yeah, I could fuck with that. She's like talking about Ponzu sauce, which again, I have, I speak like a long haul trucker. I'm an offshore sailor, whatever the old day time he plays or I'm not a lady per se. I do love a well placed swear word and a not well placed swear word. However, when she goes, do you normally, do you normally cuss a lot? And she's like, and he's like, I mean, if someone asked me that, I'd be like, check please. And light a cigarette and walk to the hotel bar. (laughing) We're like, I'm like two. - Yeah, light, light two. And just, I'm in like flick one past her ear. - No, he's like, yeah. And she's like, yeah, I noticed. And then he's, I don't know what if he says, and she's like, if I had a preference, I'd say we can reel it in a bit. And he's like, yeah, I definitely can. I didn't know, now you brought it to my attention. He's being so patient and nice with this. - I feel scolded when I see her face on the screen. As soon as she shows up. - I know, and the way he's handling it because there are cameras around it is a lot of pressure. So the fact that he's not losing his ship back, that if that was me, I would have been like, oh, I'm so sorry. But boy, this is a fucking good sushi. - Oh man. - This is the best fucking fish I've ever had. I never fucked with sushi like this before. - What the fuck? - Because I, it just was like, it was just so, because the problem, and I just don't think she's seeing it because she's so spiraling her in her own head. But someone needs to talk to her. - Yeah. - I mean, I think they did a little bit, obviously from the boat to this moment, but someone really needs to go, you're just berating him constantly. There's no, it's everything you don't like. - Yes. - So maybe he doesn't like that you have a stick in your ass. Maybe he doesn't like, he's sitting there making sushi, even though he doesn't like raw fish. And it's not, he's doing everything, and being such a good sport, when he's laughing. - I was just thinking, like they went to like a sushi making class for her. They should have taken to like a Marbro taste here. - We're gonna try Marbro's parliaments. Winston, Saloms, are you a menthol girl? Well, we'll see. - Did you know there's like five different Marbro's? - And you're gonna try the hundreds and the golds. - Yeah. - And the reds. - The reds will end with a red so that you, so you sound like James Earl Jones tomorrow morning. (laughing) But I mean, you're so right. Everything they've done. - Why can't we be the producer? Why can't we be on this show? Just giving segment ideas. Just been like listening today. We were gonna take David and Michelle to make sushi, but instead she's gonna go see how cigarettes are made. (laughing) - Yeah, she's gotta wear like a shower cap, like a plastic cap and a gown. But listen, she's gonna know, she's gonna roll some by the end. She'll get some to take home. - David's gonna be shoving him in his mouth like Lucy with a chocolate on the conveyor belt. Oh my God. I mean, honestly, it's... This guy could not have a better attitude. Like that whole... I mean, honestly, at this point, I would have lit one of the chopsticks and tried to smoke it. He's the cussing thing made me so unco... It was so... Again, I don't... It feels... Not only does it feel judgmental, it feels condescending. It's almost like a... I don't know, it just feels like a money-class thing. I think it's like she's this like pre-medana, holier than thou, but socioeconomically, she's constantly looking down on him. And I actually don't believe that she is. I just think she truly might be one of the most self-absorbed cast met. Like she literally is only thinking of herself. And I don't even think she knows she's that mean. Do you? I don't, I don't think she... I don't think so, because I don't understand how you... I don't think you could be that mean. And then just... Yeah, I don't think she's aware. Especially when she keeps saying I need to be stopped being so hard on myself. And then every once in a while, she throws out that he's a good guy and he doesn't deserve this. So there's just the fact that there's no self-control over stopping herself from being so mean is what makes me think that she must be completely oblivious to it somehow. Because even when she says say, "Oh, he seems like more of a meat and potatoes guy "than he doesn't really go out of his comfort zone." Out of his comfort zone, his whole... He's way out of his comfort zone, in my opinion, way out of his comfort zone, because he's been made to feel like a little tiny piece of shit since he got there. So I would say he's real out of his comfort zone and she's the one that has a problem getting out of her comfort zone. And that's where she has no awareness of it. Zero, zero awareness. And it's funny, even an after party, the guest, La Terrace Whitfield. He was from the "Dear Future Wafie" podcast. He said, "They showed a..." Oh, you know what, Kay? She's like, "What? "You have a podcast about your "Dear Future Wafie?" No, I'm not even kidding. That's probably why they couldn't have him on this thing because it would have been like a circle jerk or something. (laughing) Honestly. But they showed the one clip. So there was one clip where she didn't look great and it was where she's telling him she's... Michelle's telling David she's like, not down to share a bedroom. And then they... He's just like, "Oh, what do you think of that?" And she even says on after party, "I can see how nervous David is in that conversation." You know, blah, blah, blah. Well, La Terrace gives his thoughts, which were exactly all of our thoughts. He says something like you have to fully experience this experiment. If you even have a shot at making it work and you're not really doing that, you're basically leaving him high and dry. And she nods, but boy, does she not look like she's in agreement. No, because I understand if you're, quote, unquote, not comfortable with someone not getting in a bed with him, I wouldn't want her to be in a bed with him right now because of, I don't think he deserves to have to sleep next to someone who's basically just gonna be like, "Why do you look like that when you sleep?" You're breathing, just breathing again. But, you know, he hands it in, wow, he says, "Well." You know, he's like, "All I know is I'm trying." She's like, "But I can't help the way I feel." It's like, okay, but there's no acknowledgement of I'm trying. It's gotta be, I know you're trying, I know I'm being really difficult here. Can we give it a couple nights before we discuss the bedroom again and just see where we're at? Why can't she just talk to him like that? I know. Because even when he was like kind of sweating, walking around, she's like from unpacking. I know. Or from packing. I'm like, "Yeah, 'cause you're in a hotel room in Cancun." Yeah, yeah, quit doging the guy any fucking chance you get. It's from packing, you're sweating from packing. Like, no, I'm sweating because you're making me fucking my anxiety through the roof on television. Yeah, I feel like I'm on a honeymoon with TSA. I ain't gotta load a gun in my bag. That's what I feel like. I mean, he's, and I really gave him a lot of credit when she said the thing about not wanting to share a bedroom and he said, "Well, do you mind if I ask why?" I mean, he's trying, he really is trying. He's trying to get through the show. He's trying, I really need to know what communication there has been with the experts at this point. There has to have been some, right, Sarah? I mean, we haven't seen them. They're not showing up to Cancun. That's fine, I get it. How about a quick Zoom? That didn't happen either. But you're telling me that all this is going on. This poor guy's trying to catch a nap up on the pool chairs 'cause he doesn't wanna be in his room. He's eating burgers in the middle of the night by himself. Someone has had to have contacted kale or pups. I would hope so. And if not, just to say, "Hey, I think we're gonna need some new experts next season." (laughing) Yeah, I know, it's time to tap out, guys. - What if I, and I'll tell you what, this sealed the deal for me. She couldn't sit on the plane next to him. They had to switch plane seats. And then it's revealed on afterparty that Camille had to take a middle seat between Thomas and David. Can you imagine that? She didn't need a neck pillow. She had two shoulders touched, rest her chin on. I mean, she, well, I guess Camille was sitting next to Tom. And so she was sitting next to her guy, but I just don't really know what the switch was exactly, I guess, but still, you're telling me you can't sit next to the guy to fly home. It's that hard. - I mean, yeah. - And again, just no awareness of what that makes that person feel like. I mean, you can't just sit next to him and put your earpods in and go on planes. I tend to tune out. I mean, he wasn't probably gonna talk to you on the plane anyway, let's be honest. And glad, honestly, hopefully he's up there having some a couple of Jack and Cokes and enjoying his life. But I, but just like the boat, and this is the last thing I'll mention about them for now. - Yeah, it's like tonight for now, is that just like the boat when she's having this meltdown, he's standing over there knowing that she's crying because she's so repulsed by him. And now you're gonna go, I can't zip by him. There's no self, there's just no awareness of how just cruel that is. Can you imagine just being like, oh my God, she thinks I'm so disgusting. She won't fly on an X amount of hour flight next to me. I just, it's just so much. - It's just so much. - It's so rude and degrading and offensive and she's, and it's personal. I mean, listen, this isn't the wedding day. They didn't just meet. You guys have had a little time together. You made sushi, you pretended to give a shit for a few minutes out on some paddleboard. First of all, the airplane was probably the best, the airplane ride home was probably the best part of this marriage for him so far, let's call that. Okay, you got to just be alone. But in airplane, like you said, you put your butts in. You're not supposed to talk to anybody. You pop a Xanax and or a wine, don't do both. But you do what you have to do to get through it. It's so, it's such a big fuck you. It's just, it's mean and maybe, you know what, listen, maybe we find out that he's, you know, makes a mistake. I mean, I think I see the writing on the wall, don't you perhaps, but with the upcoming episodes? - I think so, but then it's confusing because then I don't, someone brought up last week and all these people have theories that Madison and David hook up, but then I'm thinking, but then Alan and David were both on after party last week together and that is a little confusing 'cause I can't imagine them agreeing to it if. - See, I still believe, possibly, you know, I make stuff up as I go along, but I did have this thought before that I think I verbalized. I think that David and Alan are such good dudes that they would act, like they had to get through, like they had to get through this as friends, like kind of like, hey, no disrespect, you know, and probably Alan's like, she's your problem now, you know, or he doesn't want to deal with it. So that's where I feel like they could be kind of copacetic, possibly. - If that's the case, this again, this is a theory we don't really know. 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And it's, he, because he's on, he's like, he was an after party tonight and he seemed so genuine, so sweet. I thought he looked great when she was telling him that he basically looks like shit. - Yeah. - I thought he looked so handsome. - Yes. - And I don't care. - Fresh cut. - Fresh cut. - Yeah. He looked great. He has really pretty eyes, like, I'm sorry. Okay, again, if it's not for you, it's not for you. But I'm jumping around here, but when they were sitting at the end, just because I'm already on that topic. - Yes. - And she says to him, I like a guy who takes care of himself and the gym is important to me and blah, blah, blah. And you guys, we're just in Cancun. That's all you know. - Right. - So just because he doesn't go to the gym on vacation, like you and David do, which good for you, no problem. But just 'cause someone else doesn't do that, doesn't mean that he's just a big schlob. It's not like, I mean, he looks like he's in shape. No, he's not got a ripped gym body. But that's again, if that's what you want it, then you have to just fucking go out with people from the gym and not go and marry the first sight. - Right. - That's it. - Right, exactly. This whole, you know, what was the first 20 minute, also very much appreciate that rant because I couldn't have said it better. Don't go on this show then. If you're not willing to try something different from what you've done in the past that has not worked for you, this is not for you. I thought Keisha, and again, I'm giving, other than God, she said, understood a bunch more times tonight and it's whatever it is, what it is. But I thought she had another great point. I think it was her where taking care of yourself means different things to different people. I mean, you can't say I want someone who takes care of themselves. That just means I want them to be a certain weight shape, size, muscle, like, okay. I mean, she's got the body of a, literally, like a competitive bodybuilder. I mean, she's a sick body, good for her, but that doesn't mean that Alan's not taking care of himself. And I don't like that implication at all. - And by the way, if she thinks David's so great and he smokes cigarettes, some people consider that not taking care of themselves. So it's like, she's just trying to tear him down and it's so rude because that was, so I was shocked when she said that. I actually thought, okay, just because you're sitting down and saying this after much thought, if you had that much thought about it, you should have thought that's something I should never say. - Right, that's what made it worse. - Yeah. - Because it's like, I mean, he goes, yeah, I mean, I do manual labor, I take, like, some people get their steps in instead. It's not, he's never indicated that he's never seen a gym in his life, and again, this is, are you upset that he didn't go down and walk the treadmill with you a couple of days while you were on vacation? 'Cause some people just don't do that. Some people vacation. I mean, I do both, when we're on long vacation, sometimes we'll go to the gym. But if John goes and I don't, I don't go, he doesn't come back and go like, God, I just want somebody who takes care of himself. I mean, fuck off. - Oh, it could not have been said, shittier, I mean. And he handled it so well. I don't know if you saw, I sent you three pictures while we were talking a text message screenshots I took of his face during that, 'cause I was, I had to pause it. And it just made me laugh because the way they came out was exactly how I was feeling. But anyway, he, I just, okay, she's either saying that, so that she basically is, is giving him an, or giving herself an out, like, I like gym guys. I like, you know, I like a bulked up gym dude and you're not. - When was the last time that worked for her? - Well, exactly, exactly. But I actually, I'd rather her say to him, you know what, I'm a creature, I have it, I can't seem to want nothing. I want nice things and nice people in my life. So this is the sort of person I'm into. Let's shake hands in part ways. I hope she's not saying this is who I'm into and this is who I need you to become because that's completely fucked up to me too. It's everything to want your partner to be healthy. But if this is like an aesthetic thing that he's not bulked up enough or whatever, that's, that's, I think that's a deal breaker. - I agree and it even makes me kind of go back on thinking maybe he shouldn't have busted out the broccoli underwear. 'Cause now I'm like, I hope he just starts wearing like broccoli costumes. - I'll have to wear as a fucking clown suit somewhere. - I just hope they go to dinner and he shows up as I had a broccoli. Because I'm like, I'm like, well, you guys, you got people that are into health. So I like to wear mine. I don't know. Because now it's just all, it's just, it's picking apart what she wants. Maybe he, maybe he's like, you know what, I'm actually, what if he's like, I'm not into ladies who are, who are that like buffed up? Usually I actually like, like what if that was his thing? - Right, exactly. - Can you imagine if he said that to her? - The backlash he would get from that? - Yeah, and how rude it would be. It's like, you're not here for your fucking usual thing, people. Like, and also, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what, Mary, Red Zinski. - Yes, Sarah, hello. - Before we go over to, though I'm going to leave you this because we probably have to go over to overtime at some point, right? - Right, I've already been rambling. I'll tell you what, you know, when I figured out that I don't trust Madison, I don't know her last name, I want to say her full name, full middle and last because she did something tonight and I will never trust her again. - What'd she do? - She wore a half tank and shorts on an airplane. - Oh, Sarah, I didn't even, I mean, I could picture it now 'cause I just watched it, but holy shit, that's not taking care of yourself, is it, Sarah? - No, which she was wearing in the lobby to that airport. I believe is what she got on the plane on and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, 'cause they cut to her and she was still, you don't wear a mid-riff top and biker shorts on a fucking airplane. You're gonna, sorry. - Might as well wear a bathing suit. - Aseless hips at this point. - I didn't even see a sweater tied around or nothing. What are we doing? That is, you get the cold air, the temperature changes up in the air, your body is touching those seats and all the things that have been on it. I like a lady who takes care of her shit on airplanes, Madison. - Yeah, yeah, I don't need any liquids coming out of any pores or holes on my wipeable seats 'cause you can't get that off the time. Oh, Sarah, that's a really good point. - I do have so much more to say. - Okay, we're gonna have to go over to overtime because we've been here, we've kept you guys. We haven't even gotten to the fact that she went out to happy hour, but we all know she did and I think you guys, if you don't join us on Patreon, I think you know how we're gonna feel about that. But we love you. We'd love for you to join us on Patreon. Again, we go over to bonus time and we keep going for another half an hour, if you could imagine, 'cause we can't help ourselves. And then you have Sunday episodes. It's a lot of content. We'd love to have you there. - Try it out. - Yeah, just try it out. And then you'll love it. But, and if you don't, then you can cancel it, but you won't. But, and then a free way to support us is if you can leave us a rating or a review, wherever you listen. I think Apple and Spotify are the ones that allow you to do that the most. That would be great. And if we don't see on Patreon, we'll see you next. We can have a good Thanksgiving. - Yes, happy Thanksgiving. Enjoy your people. - Except Madison and Michelle. Everyone now have a nice Thanksgiving. - They're gonna have dry turkey. - All right. - Bye. - Bye. - Are you my podcast? - Are you my podcast? - Are you my podcast? - Are you my podcast? - Are you my podcast? - Are you my podcast? - Are you my podcast? - Are you my podcast? (gentle music) [Music]
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