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That Football Show 12/2: The Chiefs offense could explode with this one change

Matt Verderame and Tucker Franklin react to the Chiefs' lackluster win over the Raiders and discuss all the football over Thanksgiving weekend. — The Soul of KC Holiday Raffle & Toy Drive is BACK to spread joy and make a difference! Purchase tickets and be entered for a chance to win some awesome prizes. Venmo 👉 bit.ly/3K60DmD GiveButter 👉 https://givebutter.com/kcsnsoul — We are living in the Good Ole Days (celebrate accordingly!) https://shopkcsn.com/  — Sign up with promo code KCSN to claim your Free Pick + First Time Deposit offer up to $1,000 in bonus cash! https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-kc-sports-network — The best Kansas City sports coverage in one place. Download our app now! Apple: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/kcsn/id6443568374 Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kcsn&hl=en — Subscribe to the KCSN Daily substack for film reviews, exclusive podcasts, KC Draft guide, discounts and access, giveaways, merch drops and more at https://kcsn.substack.com/subscribe — Get 20% off + free shipping with code KCSPORTS at https://www.manscaped.com/ — Interested in advertising on this podcast? Email sales@bluewirepods.com FOLLOW US ON: Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/KCSportsNetwork Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/kcsports.network/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/KCSportsNetwork Substack - https://kcsn.substack.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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02 Dec 2024
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Matt Verderame and Tucker Franklin react to the Chiefs' lackluster win over the Raiders and discuss all the football over Thanksgiving weekend.

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If you're thinking about starting a business or know someone who is, check out M-Pryse Bank's SBA loans. It's always good to know your options, and they can be your partner in possible. Hello and welcome to that football series, I'm Tucka and I'm going to be joined as always by Matt Berteran. Thank you to our sponsors and all of their bottles and conned, bourbon, as well as all of them. You guys already know that we love all of them, our friends of course, are part of them. Distillery, Thanksgiving week. Look, we had a little bit of a weird schedule at KC Sports Network. Matt and I didn't get a podcast in before the Raiders game, but we're going to get you guys two pods this week. We'll get you guys two pods this week leading up to the big game that the Chiefs will have against the Chargers. We got a lot to talk about, so Thanksgiving, week of football, Thanksgiving in general, Matt, how was your holiday weekend? Was good. A lot of football, a lot of bad culture. There was a lot of food. There was enough family that we got the right balance and I made it. So here I am. Here I am, living the dream. I always think that like the Monday after the Thanksgiving holidays, like the saddest day of the year, right? You have that weekend of just like, man, you're eating really good food, spending time with family, not really doing anything, watching football, and then the Monday comes around and it's just like, how many more weeks till Christmas? How many more weeks until we get to the end of the year type of deal? So it's like this little, you know, that has like a no man's land between like Christmas and New Year's, like you have no idea what day it is and during that stretch, like there's a little bit of a no man's land type of field between like Thanksgiving and Christmas. I felt that stress between Christmas and New Year's is me just like on the floor in the kitchen and there. What have I done? Yeah. It's not just like I'm staggering to get up. Like I fought patient in the late 80s and my kids are like, dad, just stay down. It's okay. You're getting out. It's mine. Like where the hell's the ham? I feel like dad is my life like a week. And then like everybody's like, have me New Year at January 1st and I'm always sitting now like, is it, I don't know, I'm not going to be like New Year's Day guy. Oh, yeah. I enjoy like the last week of the year more than any other week in the entire year. So for me, like New Year comes around now like, great. Now it's just fucking freezing. The damn holiday coming to save me, you know, like, yeah, the flightmaster here. That's cool. But man, once December has done, it's like, great, great. Now what am I looking forward to? Presidents day? That's no way to live. You know, Valentine's Day, shit's going to cost me a million dollars. Yeah. Well, you know, I'm getting nothing out of that deal. I got to pay for the dinner, pay for the flowers, pay for the chocolate. And then, yeah, okay, you know, you go home and hang out and share whatever, but like, come on. Valentine's Day's just bricked against us. Yeah. Yeah. This is a great point. It is just cold for nothing. At least when it's cold, for Christmas, he's like, oh, Christmas, you know, it's cold and snowy. Yeah. Nobody's sitting there like, great, snow on January 14th, like, because miserable ass snow, you go outside, shuffle it, deal like crap, like I'm bumping, like God, you know, we're not going to get snow during the game, 18 feet of snow drop later on, pretty still trying to throw it for 70 yards. And here we are. Here we are. That was an ugly game on Sunday night football. Another ugly game happened, you know, well, I guess on Thursday too, but like also on Friday, the ugly football continued on to Friday as the Chiefs did prevail against the Las Vegas Raiders on Black Friday. The Amazon prime, the three hour Amazon prime commercial commenced with the Chiefs getting a win. Matt, just overall thoughts on that game. There's a lot of different ways we can go. I guess which way do you want to take us down first? I mean, did one, but that is the first game of all year that I watched and walked away from and just said, yeah, they got lucky at one that game. They had no business right now football game. I get it. They won. And that's, that's great. And look, I honestly think there are some real, some real long term positives to take out of it. But if we just want to focus on that game specifically, I don't know how you walk away from that thing. If you're on any other way, I've been relieved of your rooting for the Chiefs. I mean, they do have a 430 yards to the Raiders. Made in O'Connell through for 340, they were giving up massive play after massive play. They were up 16, three, and then a blink of an eye around 17 to 16. You know, they, they dropped passes. The two tackles looked like they had money on the Raiders in the game. Oh my gosh. I mean, everybody's going to focus on one anymore. And that's fine. Okay. We're going to get to him. I'm sure. John Taylor, buddy, do you know what the line of scrimmage is? Like, there's no way he doesn't know he's lined up incorrectly. There's no like the second one that he got called for. He was lined up like next to Pacheco, essentially, like, what are you doing? And this is where I will say, I do think they missed the enemy in this regard. Like, there is no way that keeps happening if there are enemy's offense coordinator at the stage. Yeah. There's no way. Nothing ever happens. He takes a million penalties every week. He doesn't know what he's doing in terms of lining up proper. And it's just like, yeah, no, no, that sucks. I don't know, like get on the line of scrimmage. How hard is this? It's just, it's like if Travis Kelsey wants a game, just lined up next to the defense event. And you were just like, yeah, I don't know how to fix that, like, get next to the guard and have your helmet break the belt of Creed Humming. How hard is this? Yeah. So that is my overwhelming takeaways. They got lucky. They did win. They're in the playoffs in the 10th straight year, which can't be overhauled because that is an insane straight. That's true. I thought of men who played very well. I thought the defensive front, while not great, had some real signs of life. Chris Jones had two sacks. They played excellent in the game, even John Sachs. I liked it. They played Joshua Williams over whatever the hell Nazi Johnson was doing in that game. But yeah, I mean, my overwhelming feeling was like, man, they got lucky. They are really lucky they won that game. I want to start there with that call because they were lucky, but it was the right call. I think some people were, I saw some people online, obviously, wanted to say like, hey, well, it's used to get bailed out by the refs again. Yeah, they did get bailed out, but the Raiders messed up like the Raiders. The Raiders messed up. That was a life ball foul. That the wide receiver was not set, which then in turn makes it a. All right. Listen, a legal shift. It was definitely a legal shift in the sense that if you go back and you watch that play, there's no false start. It's just the wide receiver is just not set. Yeah. Yeah. And he's not the only one that's on set. There's like three guys on the plate on set and the Raiders are the Raiders. And like, this is why bad teams are bad. Okay. I would question like, what the fuck is Antonio Pierce doing in the first place, even running a play there? Yeah, they had no timeouts, right? What are you doing? Like, yeah, because I've had people say, or I've seen people say, well, you know, they might have just, you know, ran into one of the hash marks and no, they weren't going to do that. Because it was third down. Right. So if they let's say, let's just live in a world for a minute where you, okay, O'Connell kneels on one of the hash marks. Four down. They can't spike the football. They have to run the field goal team out there. They wouldn't have enough time. Right. And then I saw Pierce at the game was like, yeah, I was going to have a call and run around a little bit running completion. Bro, there's 15 seconds left. Right. If you can't defend for 10 seconds, give it up. Like, I don't know what to tell you. Okay. This isn't the 13 seconds offense. All right. That was something that happened. I thought this whole game was an example of what happened happens when coaches just decide not to be involved. And I'm going to get the Andy and even Spaggs a little bit later, but like Antonio Pierce, what are you doing? Like I blame that on him more than anybody else in the field. Like I, why are you in that position? And here's another thing that nobody's talked about because I've seen at least 10 foil people who just think the chiefs are, you know, 16 players deep every game because of the officiating. Right. Yeah. I don't know how to call that a false start because you got to call something. I mean, it's clearly clear as day that it's a penalty, right? There's, so let's say it's a false start. Okay. Now it's a 55 yard kick. You see Daniel Carlson's first three kicks. His ass wasn't making it from 55 yards. I don't know. He was making it from 50. He certainly wasn't making it from 55. The last kick that he made or attempted to make that thing ended up in Oklahoma. There's no chance he was hitting that ball for 55 yards and making it. But to me, look, they got extremely lucky. The Raiders panicked because they stank and they didn't know what they were doing. And the ball gets kicked around. The Bolton days credit made a nice play and fell on it and they went fine. I thought that game was so horrifically coached by Pearson that moment prior to that and he's got third and two and the team who can't protect all game are like, you know, it'd be great here. Deep ball. Like I have been as critical of as anybody about Mahomes this year. I'm not putting that on him. The guy's getting crushed as he's throwing it. And by the way, this one was not on the tackle. This was on Travis Kelsey who just stood there and let the guy go right by him. It was Diablo and drill the homes. You just ran for eight yards on two plays, like, Andy, run the ball. They really don't like the game's over. Yeah. If you don't pick it up and it's fourth in New York, trying to get like, I don't get it. I will never get it. You know, he did the same thing earlier in the game, they're up 13 to three in the third quarter and they're third and three at the 17 yard line and they threw some dinky little pass. It was going to complete and kick the field goal. And I am usually a conservative guy with a lot of that kind of stuff. Look, man, run it twice if you have to because if you score a touchdown, they're the game's over. It's 20 to three. The Raiders are cooked at that point. They're ready to go home. The game's done. Instead, the chief kick, another field goal and the Raiders return the damn thing, seven of the yards on the ensuing kickoff. The game goes to hell after that. I just, there are times in the game where you have to have a feel for what's going on. I don't understand what the hell Andy was doing. And by the way, I went back and looked at, she said 34 places, second half, excluding the home's is nailed down. They called six runs on 34 place and with a, with a, with a significant lead to the first 28 places I can have, they ran three times. I mean, what are you doing? Just run it. My God, like I have, I, this is the dumbest take I have every year, but it is the take I firmly believe it is not fun to run the ball and Andy Reed wants to have fun. I firmly, I know that is so stupid. I get it. I know any, anybody in the locker and be your adult, I, I get it. I always feel like that during games and he does stuff like that. Like, it's like the first four runs didn't go anywhere. And that's all the permission he needs to just be like, I'm never running again. We're going to throw it. Which, listen, is great if you're carving the other team up is not great. If your quarterback is getting earholed every other down, because one anymore is just hurt and can't play right now. And because Juan Taylor thinks that the line of scrimmage is the equator, like I, I don't know what to do with that, but I can tell you that running the ball occasionally probably would help. They did that one run for check over and I think it was like 32, 33 yards. They ran one time in the next like 24 plays after that. Why? Why? Like, it's just, it's the dumbest possible way to play football. Yeah. It's after two, like, Matt Ibifu's had a very big coaching disaster. Now he doesn't have a job for it. Yeah. Um, and like, that was Thanksgiving. This was Black Friday and the coaching decisions, most of lingered, I guess, onto, onto, uh, into the arrowhead because like both coaches, as you mentioned, made not very, I don't. So let's go back to that sequence that they had before, like the Raiders got the ball. Uh, they could have went for it. I believe. Yeah. So it was third down. Can you assume? It comes in and reports is eligible, by the way, uh, that was interesting after they had already moved Joe Tooney out there to let, to, uh, to the left tackle. Then they called a timeout on fourth down, uh, to then punt the ball back to the Raiders. Uh, I don't know, I, I, it was you talking about it. I already made it clear. Like you run the ball twice there. You get the first down games over. Yeah. The game is, the game is done. And I was telling, you know, I was, I was at the game. I was with Tara and I was like, Hey, look, run the ball twice, games over. He throws it. I'm just like, ah, what, what are we doing there? Um, but like, look, I mean, if he hits Xavier worthy there, which it seemed like he's physically incapable of hitting Xavier worthy on deep shots. I don't know what it is about Xavier worthy, but he could not throw, he could not connect with him. If he hits it there, like, I guess we're all celebrating like, whoa, deep shot. That's fun. But like still, I don't know, man, that's, I am, I am so over their complete inability to just do obvious stuff. We have three years on end. They couldn't run a dive play, right? They still refuse to run a quarterback sneak is God forbid. Mahomes is apparently just like didn't go in there, get shattered. I don't know what's going to happen. Josh, you should play to one snap. Yeah, like guys, this, this isn't rocket science. It's football. It doesn't have to be this complicated, right? Third and two, after you run for eight yards on two downs, I'd say just run the fucking thing and see what happens. Like, why does it have to be this like, Oh, this is a great time to take a shot, like, no, it's not. And like normally I would be the guy who'd say, Hey, you know what, he got open. It was a good play call. It's not a good play calling. You can't block anyone. You cannot block. And I don't know what Kelsey's doing. If anybody wants to plug the all 22 of that, Kelsey's just standing there as double goes around him and just kills Mahomes. Like, I don't know if Kelsey, you know, I didn't know the play was going on. Like what the hell was happening with him. Hopkins played great in the game. They had one of the worst rocks I've ever seen in your life on a ball at Mahomes. I was like a highlight waiting to happen. I just, I am very to distinct opposite minds with the Chiefs right now. One is they're 11 and one. Don't worry about it. This team is what they always are. And we're going to do this the whole rest of the regular season. They're going to annoy the hell out of everybody. And then they're going to get into the playoffs. And they're going to absolutely beat the hell out of Houston or somebody like them. You know, and then they're going to, and then the bills are going to come up to the title game. We're going to hear all about how great the bills are. And there's no way they can beat the bills. And here come the bills. And oh my God, the bills. And Josh Allen. Did you know Josh Allen's great? He's going to be. And then it's just you're going to hold them to like 12 points. But I feel like that's just like that's coming because that's just who they've been forever. Yeah. Like that's just what they'll do. And Mahomes will go nuclear in that game and it'll throw for like 384 touchdowns. And then there's another part of me. It's like, I don't know that this team's going to hold onto the one seat and I could see him losing like Denver in the wildcard round because it just can't function. I don't know. I kind of lean more toward the first one that that's just what they've been for years. And that's just probably what they'll be. But that Raiders game was how the hell do you give up 430 yards that day? Not great. A lot of it had to do with the explosive plays on defense. What you're talking about before we started recording, like it's something that we hadn't really seen out of this Chiefs defense in the last two years really is the explosive plays. And obviously one coming on special teams too with the big return. That one hurts. I don't. It wasn't too windy in Arrowhead. So I don't I don't know if Matthew Wright just can't make it to the end zone or what it is. But like I have no light. He says credit has been very accurate. He is no light. Yeah. They did the Chiefs did make a coaching changer or a personnel change, I should say. A corner back, which I think that, you know, Matt, I think you and I have kind of talked about it for at least a couple of podcasts of, you know, why the hell isn't Joshua Williams out there? He had played a pretty, a pretty big role in a couple championship running teams. And now he wasn't out there at all for any defensive snaps. Nasi Johnson gets burnt early on and they say, you know what, Keith Taylor go on in there for this red zone. And they said, you know what, Keith Taylor, come on out and we're going to put Joshua Williams in, and things got better for the Chiefs defense to their credit. Things did get better for the Chiefs defense after Joshua Williams came in. I did know, I don't know if this is a correlation causation type of deal, right, Matt. But I did notice they started getting after the quarterback a little bit more with Joshua Williams got in there. And you know what helps getting after the quarterback is when guys are covered. That is cake. That's a big thing that I think that Joshua Williams can do that Joshua Williams can just cover guys. And I think we saw that kind of happen. I know that there was one play with like Brock Bowers, but Brock Bowers was insane in this game. Um, I think Joshua Williams was on, and that might have been Trent McDuffie though. Um, nevertheless, I do think that the, the, the, the Chiefs defense is better with Joshua Williams out there. Ah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, that last play that we saw in Nasi Johnson getting just absolutely roasted by just Kobe Myers. I'm good. I don't know if it's, you know, it's Johnson, the rest of the season. I'm all set. I'm done. He wasn't in the same zip code as Jacoby Myers, usually no idea of coming to the playing. At least that's what it appear like anyway. Um, Joshua Williams is not great. Joshua Williams is Deon Sanders compared to Nasi Johnson. So it's, it's time to just try them out there and let it go. Except the fact he's going to be far from perfect, but he's better than Nasi Johnson. I think, you know, Nasi Johnson had like a week at camp two years ago, and before he got hurt and obviously no bad point got hurt, but like he had a week that everybody was like, man, Nasi Johnson, Nasi Johnson, they had art and then it was like this whole thing that how once he comes back, guys have a good week, some camp all the time. Yeah. It doesn't mean anything. And I'm not, you know, it's not, I think it's not as you johns, I'm saying it by anybody like doesn't mean anything. I mean, I can't do how many times some guys in unbelievable camp, like forget a week, a camp. Guide. There's nothing. Yeah. That's the way it is. I mentioned Andy earlier a lot. I am, I'm going to throw spags on the car, but on this one too, like putting tomorrow Connor one on a Brock Bauer for a game we should say, yeah, we should say that's not a tomorrow Connor problem. That's a skiing problem. tomorrow Connor six foot two hundred and two pounds. Okay. Brock Bauer is just like six four two thirty five. He's going to win. He's incredibly athletic. He's a first round pick for a reason, like Brock Bowers is always going to win that match up. Right. I don't understand for the life of me why they didn't just double Bowers. And so be this, be this anywhere else. Do it. You do terrible beat us anywhere else. And then she's like, no, that's fine. Brock got Bowers at 10 and 140. We're good. I hate the guy out of the game with a bracket. What are you doing? It's just again, again, going back to like, why is this this hard for this team sometimes? This is obvious stuff. And I will say this just as a personal gripe. Next fucking person that tells me, oh, you know, it's just not checkers, you know, saving them for the plus saving them bracket. I mean, what are you talking about? You would not believe, or maybe you would, the amount of people after the Chiefs win. I'm like, man, got to pick it up a little bit. Oh, you don't understand they're playing, you know, they're playing the long, bro, they're not playing the long game against Carolina. Yeah. Okay. I promise you that they're not now. You can say, you know, they're bored, whatever, fine, that out here. Nobody in the coaching staff is going, Hey, guys, listen, we got to hold back if we might see the Raiders down the road here, right? That's not happening. Like that has become this catch all now, like a million Chiefs fans on Twitter say to me after every game, well, you know, just holding it back. I am with you in the sense, they might be holding back some third down plays and might be holding back some red zone, but sure, sure, doubling Brock Bowers is not being held back. They're not like, well, you know, down the line. What are three years from now? And like, I only hesitate to say this wouldn't catch them off guard to do the coaches. But like if the Chiefs and doubled Brock Bowers two years from now, like, let's live in a world where Antonio Pierce is still the coach when he'd be like, my God, I didn't know they could do that. Like maybe because he's Antonio Pierce, but like, I feel like there's not a whole lot to hold back in that regard. I just come on, like bracket Bowers make Jacobi Myers beat you and if he beat you, then you're terrible. Like, I don't understand the thought process. I don't get it. Yeah. I, there is, it does seem like there's a lot of the, well, they're just saving things for the playoffs type of deal, but they haven't really played anybody. You can kind of, you can somewhat make that argument a bit against like Buffalo, but they still ran some pretty, some pretty wild plays against Buffalo, right? Because they know they're going to see Buffalo again. They're know they're going to see maybe even to like Baltimore and Cincinnati in this regard, even though they were early on in the season, or are still not pulling out the, the, you know, what was the first game against Buffalo? They ran was like a Texas had ran that play like the day before or something like that, where it was like a four guys in the backfield and it was all kinds of fakes and they flipped it around to Xavier worthy, like they're pulling that out the first play of the game. And then we have the audacity to sit here and say that they're hiding stuff for the playoffs. I don't know. I do think that there are some things that like they're going to show you a formation because they're going to do something off of it later on. Like that's probably more accurate than saving something, right? Like they're going to, they're, I guess you could consider that saving, but like that's just like good coaching is just showing you something and then having a counter off of it. I don't know. I think like people underestimate the fact that you should try to win games and get the one seed. Yeah. And like it's like, oh, it doesn't matter if they play Hopkins 20 snaps again. No, it matters actually. It actually matters. Like the whole goal is to win football games and stuff. That's the point. Yeah. You know, I, I say, I cannot take the next fan who's like, listen, fans make great points all the time. That is not one of them. Okay. This idea that like I love to just one time text to coach after a game, big here. Listen, what were you thinking on that third down call? Well, this thing I had to play to win the game, but so we got to save that for a month from now. So thinking we just weren't going to run it. We just ran dive, you know, lost. There is no world that's ever happening. I promise you, like it's just, they're not playing up to their standard. They're not. It's okay to say that. And I'll tell you what, I'm going to flip it now. I think my home's just playing much better. He is. Yeah. I think worthy playing really worthy. It's not worthy. That is the one thing my home's has got to figure out, like, where are these open, man? Where are these just cooking guys? I think Kelsey's playing well. No grades look great. Hopkins has been a great addition. They're getting Hollywood brown back. I would make the case here and now that DJ Humphrey is going to be the most important player in the NFL going forward because if he's good, I think this offense is going to score 30 points a game. I really do. I think they're ready to explode, but they haven't been able to because one anymore is over there doing the two step and just getting my arms killed by a legit by later on chase on who looked like Reggie White in that game because he's just couldn't even touch him. I really think the chief's offense is ready to explode, but they need off tackle and Humphrey's might be the difference between going home to the division around and win the Super Bowl and defensively had three sacks like Jones played like he was, you know, Chris Jones, Joshua Williams was an upgrade. I would sit here and tell you that I think that they have the answers to a lot of this stuff. I didn't mention I don't think Hollywood Brown will be back here in whatever three weeks or something like, yeah, there's a lot that I actually think really benefit sound and I will also tell you we're going to get into a next show for the Chargers game. I can't remember a game where I have absolutely no idea what's going to happen. You could tell me they lose. I believe it. I may win by field goal. I believe it. You could tell me that this is the game where I teach you Humphrey's plays and like all of a sudden they went like 35 to 10 and I'd go like, yeah, maybe I don't know anything's possible in this game. Hardball is going to be screaming. The Chargers are going to be really cold and stuff. I don't know. It's a good point. I didn't think about the other factor. Yeah. You could just see that being like a thing in this game where like the Chargers drop like chef and pass is now my three foul molds because it's cold. You know, I don't know. I don't know. But I think there's a lot of stuff that's actually very positive for the Chiefs right now, but it kind of got obscured by how bad they looked. Yes. For stretches that game is the right cheese, four point favorites. By the way, in that game at home, interesting line there. Last thing. Yeah. So it's been it's moved in the Chiefs favor then. Last thing before we fully move on to like we get some teams we want to put to rest. We're going to talk about the rest of the NFL slate that happened on Sunday and obviously Thanksgiving and all the football that's happened kind of over the past week. I'm looking at the snap counts here, man. I know. I'm sure you've seen them out. I mean, you mentioned the Joshua Uche one, which is insane that he only had one snap. He was on the field for another snap, but Chris Jones jumped off sides. Um, it's not officers. Tom, so then maybe almost two. Yeah. Yes, but all I was actually really excited for the snap because I was looking down and I was like, who do they got out here? It was Chris Jones on the outside. Mike Dana on the inside Josh Uche on the inside and Charles, the men of you. And I was like, what are they doing here? I want to see how they what, what, what kind of stunts are they running here? I wanted to see it. I have a Chris jumped off sides. I want the Chiefs to have a package where like Mike Penell is a Michael I'm backer and he's just chaos is just Mike Penell's lining them up. You know, and then make like, I don't know, make like Derek Nadia on that same, like make him like a slot corner. Mm. Yeah. And then we're going big nickel. Yeah. I just, I don't know. And I don't really want to see that because I'd be a touchdown, but I, I think it would be entertaining. It's all the nature. It would be blitz from the nickel blitz, you know, but with their not. I'll tell you, put that on tape. Yeah. Yeah. That one. Oh my God. Nadia's in big nickel. Yeah. Like, I mean, you would have honestly been created that like genuinely common songs on Saunders. Yeah. Because he's such a freak athletically. He is. He'd have been unbelievable doing that. Yeah. You know, that would be, look, I don't know what world that works, but like, if you ever could do something like that and it worked, like he did study that for two days straight. Right. I mean, there'd be like, that would be unbelievable. Anyway, we got a lot to get to, but yeah, I, I just, yeah, big nickel. It would be. It would be. We need to write that one down. All right. I'll write a letter to Arrowhead with the, uh, with the, what is it, the CEO, uh, Steve Stagner of. Yeah. I'll, I'll text some people that I know with the, with the team and I'll see if we can't get that at the playbook, um, Jesus, who wants to, you had more snaps than a Joshua Uche did. Start away. Uh, great vibes. Also, I didn't know that, uh, it was his name, Anthony Frickshire. Frickshire. Yeah. Didn't know he was on the team until I was like, who was 85? That was, I don't know, he got in a huddle and somebody was like, who, it's like the economy. Greg. Who the hell is that guy? You know, I know you got in there. And some of you are just like, is this like a, is this like a fan promotion? Like what the hell is going on? Yeah. I was very confused when I saw 85 in motion cause I was like, I don't think since, but it makes sense. Because they've had seven other tight ends hit the injured reserve and Travis Kelsey is now pulling 90% of the snaps. So like, yeah, great, great spot to be in to have your 35 year old tight end play in 90% of the snaps. Yes. Yeah. It's good. He's going to have like 120 catches a share and not hit a thousand yards. It's really, we're, we're rolling. Here's the yards after the catch is actually going to be negative this year. The funny thing is like, this will happen all year long. I, I, this is one that I firmly believe don't get to the playoffs. So I have like 12 catches for like a box 70. Just kill whoever the hell he's playing the first game. I got it. Yeah. All right. Let's take a break. Let me get back. We got some cues to put to rest. And we got some other football to talk about. So we'll take a break here and we will see you on the other side. 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People have been practicing now, people that are trumpeting. Thanksgiving, we know what, we surveyed the landscape and said, ooh, it's brutal out here. So we've got some teams to put to rest, let's go ahead and get into it. This time to say good night to Matt Ebert Flush in the Chicago Bears, separate craves. The Bears are 4 and 8 and not good once again for the 100th time in the last 100, maybe one year. It's getting 85. Kale Williams might be good but might also need to learn what a clock is. They'll have time, the Bears have passed. The Bengals however are out of time. 4 and 8, they're not playing one ounce of defense. Joe Burrow might be the first quarterback ever to throw for 6,000 yards in one of 4 games. The Bengals have made it happen. Pro tip for the Bengals, trades you more chase, make him your Tyree Kelles off stage. And you rest in peace. Norland Saints, they also need to lay down, Dennis Allen also in separate craves, maybe sealed in concrete so he can't come back and haunt them like a Chernobyl style grave. The Saints are terrible and not good in any way, except for Marcus Waldo Scantling, who has gone to a team that is dead and yet he has risen. Do it that way you will. And finally, the San Francisco 49ers who treated snow like it was radioactive on Sunday night, fumbling, not throwing the ball well, Christian McCaffrey unfortunately goes down with what appears to be a season ending injury. The 49ers, the classic example of why when you have a shot to win it all, you better do it. Now, ringless and in the ground. It's actually crazy the Saints made it this long. They were hanging on, you know, like, yeah, because if they didn't want you, they didn't say big game back in the division, but yeah, I've been there, there, there. I'll tell you what, I was just close to laying on land at arrest. What is God's name? I mean, that game cousin throws four picks and I'm not kidding anyone didn't see that game. They were the worst interceptions you'll ever seen, you know, like sometimes your guy throws out like three picks in the game for one of them got tipped at the line, one of them going through a receiver's hand, no, no, the worst interceptions. In fact, the third one I had to just actually laugh. They were down in the red zone down four points, third and goal. He steps out of the pocket has all day and just kind of floats a ball toward like the goalpost and I'm thinking the way he threw that thing, there must be a guy so unbelievably open. It's funny, the camera shifts to where the ball's going to go. There are four chargers and no falcons standing there. I don't know what he was like, was he trying to throw it out of bounds? Like, I have no idea what he was doing. And then like he was like, like motioning afterwards, almost like somebody was supposed to be there like, great. So it was going to be one on four. Like, what the hell was that? Oh, he's like, he's terrible. Did he throw two picks in the end zone? Ah, one and then he threw a pick six. That's right. Out of the ball that like before it left his hand, you were like, if you throw this, it's a pick six. What are you doing? And he was like, no problem. Got it. And just welded it at the corner and the guy run 65 yards on thoughts for thought. I mean, just nice game, nice game. Also, I appreciate the falcons. I don't even watch this. You wouldn't even notice. Of course. Every time it was like third New York or do they just took Bijon Robson out of the game? Great coaching. Great job. Raheem Morris coaching the year. I just every time I watch the falcons, I, I'm reminded why Raheem Morris like went a long time between end coaching jobs. Not great. Not like, buddy, you, you, you, you, you, you're Bijon Robinson. Yeah. I'm thinking maybe not like a wide receiver sweep to Ray Ray McCloud. Like, I don't know. You need a foot. Like, how about just pounding it up inside? Like, I just, again, making it more difficult than need be. Of course, nobody has anything on Matt Everflows who I think is still trying to figure out how to call a timeout. That, that was actually insane that he like had a timeout. I know after the game, he said that, like, well, we wanted Caleb to throw a quick pass and a quick completion. Then we were going to call a timeout, buddy, you need it only a field goal. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, I feel like they got a pretty decent kicker, they Santas is a kicker, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's good care. Boy. Here's the thing about that. Okay. Fine. I get it. You had the ball. So, but 34 seconds lost. Yeah. Listen, man, when you get to 20 seconds, you'd call a timeout and then throw the short pass and you've had enough time to run your fillable team out there, you're fine. Like what do you do? It just, it came out that Everflows had money on the lions. You'd be like, oh, okay. Makes sense. Yeah. I have never seen coaching like that. And by the way, Caleb Williams doesn't go off the hook either. Is he blind? What the hell is he doing? Snap the ball, man. Why are you doing a whales at like 40 yards after a great, great decision. It's in a they're set too. Like he took a minute to snap the ball again. They seem like they were set around like maybe 20 ish. I had after he watched the clip, but like, yeah, he was, I don't, yeah, it does fall on both of those guys. And look, though, the way that the bears handled this, I think this is like the first time in their history. They ever fired a coach mid-season and you could tell because they let him do media first before they fired him. They obviously had no clue the order of operations was supposed to go in firing somebody mid-season. Nevertheless, I do think that they let him kind of a Hebrew flu, so I should say take the heat instead of Caleb Williams on that, which probably a right move if you're going to try to protect your number one overall pick quarterback. But yeah, you're right. He does deserve a share of the blame. He is in Caleb Williams deserves a share of the blame as what was going on there because you've got to be aware of a running clock and or, you know, spike it. I mean, I don't know, like if you really want to save that one time out, there's a lot of things that they could have done rather than just kind of watch it all tick down. Yes, it was a catastrophe. I've never seen clock management like that. And then the Thanksgiving day festivities were not over yet because Tommy, no, I'm sorry, Drew Locke, who the wars who made Deji or Waitness, they got run back for touchdown and not by his team. And then I don't know about you. I turned on Miami Green Bay and the whole week, I'm like Green Bay's winning this guy. Like there's no way Miami's winning this game. It's called a lot of NBC breaks into the game and there's a little floor standing there like it's 50 degrees out with no hat on like just ready to coach the game. And then they showed Mike McDaniel. Mike McDaniel looked like he was about to go on like an expedition in Antarctica. And I forget her that was the most historic one to give credit. I think she's the sideline reporter for them. I think so. Yeah, that's what's right. I believe it was her. I believe it was her report. They break in and they're like the dolphins pack 3,500 pounds of cold weather gear for this game. I just immediately went and hung out with the rest of the family for now. It's games over. I don't even need to watch this game. The dolphins are treating this like it's life or death. It's like 24 degrees out. It's okay. You're going to be cold and stuff. I don't know that the average person realizes like I've been down on the sidelines. Do you have much heat they have down there? Heat packs for your hands. Heat packs for your body. Heat heated benches. There's all over between the benches like huge thermal capes. No one's dying in 24 degree weather. I promise you and the dolphins are like no, no, we have to pack like somebody might actually die in this game. Yeah. And then I looked around the corner to the television 24 to 30. Like yeah, it's about right. Like the dolphins are just a tire fire in this game. Yeah. You know, you know, it's going to be real fun when the dolphins are playing for their playoff lives on December 29 against Cleveland at night on the banks of Lake Erie. That'll be a fun game. Okay. As they show me Daniel and again, there's a human block of ice and there's just I hope when they play that game, he wears that. I hope it's colder shirt. Uh huh. Awesome man. Awesome. Things are going really well for you. That team never in a million years winning a serious game. No. And I actually ran to my sports book of choice in once I saw what the weather was supposed to be in Lambo field and just put money on the, on the, on the Packers as a small mo. And it's just like this, this team does not. This little team has won one game in like under 50 degree weather. And that's insane to think under 50 degrees, 50 degrees is still like, you know, fairly warm. I think if it was 50 degrees right now, I'd probably be put on, pop on a pair of shorts hop outside real quick. But like that is insane to me. Like they just, they just have a are not able to play in weather that is not perfect. And that's not a good football team. If you can't play in weather, that is pristine. I just don't get it. Like, they're not dead yet actually, by the way, the five and seven, but the whole thing, the whole thing is so ridiculous that team in the weather, like my God, get over it. I, you know, and it's like, by the way, not everybody on that team is from Miami. We're like, like some of these guys, Alec Engel grew up in Green Bay or I grew up in Wisconsin. Like, it's okay. What do you think like a motivational speech to deal with it? Yeah. Yeah. The cold this morning, if I ever played in my own personal life, it was New Year's Day. There's a tradition in New York that two hockey teams will play high school teams play on the top of this place, Bear Mountain, which is a huge mountain range, it's right outside West Point in New York. And what my, I can't remember what year we all care, it's junior year. We are our team was nominated to be one of the two teams. So we go up there, we play games that you play on New Year's Day and you play at the crackathon. Okay. So I fight all the time, six. We're outside warming up. And it's an outdoor rink. You're on top of a mountain and the wind's going and the rink is so old, the part of the glass is actually like, like chicken wire, like it's like this traditional thing. Ron telling you, it's the only time in my life. I remember our coaches, those like crack them, you know, crackle hand warmers. I was shoving those things in places I didn't want to talk about. It was so damn cold. I remember just sitting on the bench and I was like, I'm going to die. Like I was praying, like, please let it be my shift so I can get out there and move around for a minute. Right. Yeah. And I remember there was just killing the other team. I knew from, from the house leading years ago, it was good Jimmy Colgan, I'm like, hey, man. It's fucking freezing. He's like, Oh my God, like this game just has to end. I had never seen two teams play so fast to try to, you know, I mean, it was, we won. We won four in one. I do remember that. Like we won the game. Nice. And in that arena, you're going to call it that, whatever you want to do, that rank, they had a really nice locker room, but it was all glass. The whole damn thing is glass. And then there was like a separate room for like, cause we had a couple of girls, nothing. There was a separate room, of course, for the girls. So all the guys, I'm like, we're all sitting there and the whole damn thing is glass. Because they built this in like the twenties, like nobody thought about like, you know, any game. I remember going in there and I just took, I just, I got down to like my undershirt, which of course is like soaking wet in my, whatever the hell I add, like my under armor pants. And I told my dad, I'm like, I don't care. I'm not getting changed just the hell out of here. And I think I got to change like on the way down the mountain, like throw out the t-shirt and put it on a sweatshirt. He was just laughing the entire time. I'm like, I love that rank. I've gone there a million times taking dates here and stuff, Gonski. Every time I go there, I think of how damn cold I was. I feel like that's what the dolphins are, winning 50 degrees outside. The dolphins are just like, we're not even changing. Get on the bus. We're headed back for warmer weather. Like, okay. Got to get out of there. Looking back at teams, we put the rest. We just did obviously Chicago, Cincinnati, New Orleans, San Francisco, San Francisco sneaky team, but they are dead. They could not be more dead. No, they're dead. They're dumb. Yeah. They joined Cleveland, Las Vegas, Arizona, the Rams, the Patriots, the Broncos, the Panthers, the Titans, the Giants, the Cowboys, as teams that are dead. Look, and mathematically, some of these teams may be alive, but these are teams that we said mathematically, they still might be alive, but they're actually dead, but they're actually dead. They'll let the numbers fool you. Numbers do lie sometimes. Don't let them lie to you this time. These teams are actually not good football teams. Also, Rams and the Cardinals, yeah, they somewhat risen, but we're not, we're not resurrecting them yet. They're not even the playoffs right now. Right. So they, they stay dead. You know what else needs to be dead, by the way, as we, I know we're close to wrapping here. NBA cup courts. Like it's stopped. Like can you imagine somebody who's like on a hallucinogen who turns on the NBA cup games? Yeah. And this is like, Oh my God, like the courts move. Like what in God's name is all this shit? Just put like a little logo or something on the court, you know, NBA cup 2024 or whatever that like. Can we please stop like every court now, like there's like, and then there's a city court and then there's a retro court. I mean, you've got to say in Roddy's before, you know, you have to say it because for sponsorship purposes. Yeah. No. So I first was like, what the hell is this? And then I've just kind of been like, you know what? It's the NBA cup. Who cares? It's just a little sort of, it's like, that's a good bar for the one that God stop. Like stop making out and get some thing and like the whole court's got all the different and it looks ridiculous. Stop doing it. So when I watch the magic games on there, illegally, obviously, because they make it impossible to watch NBA games unless I want to pay a thousand dollars. I'm paying for League Pass. I still can't figure out how to use it. Yeah. I'm just donating money at this point. I don't know how to use League Pass. Yeah, it's actually an awful product. The NFL actually is the only league that has figured out how to do like like, what does they call Sunday tickets? That what they call it? Yeah. They're the only league to figure that out because League Pass, we have tried to do it for the past couple of years, it's just unusable. And so it's saying they want to lead to. Awful product. I will say a hockey. I appreciate hockey gave up trying to make people pay for the product. They're like, it's all an ESPN fan. Hockey is just like listing. We know where our bread's buttered. All right. Just launch a police. Any of the funny things is like it's actually work. Like the ratings are really good and so they're getting more advertising money. Here's the crazy thing. They don't realize in this country. Hockey better attended than NBA games. I don't know that. Hockey does better attendance wise than the NBA does in the United States. People treat the NHL like, look, more people will tune into the NBA like casually. NHL fans, crazy. That's true. We'll watch. I always used to joke like the Florida Panthers just contract them like they were like the one team that they never sell out. Now everyone is standing like, everybody's there. It's insanity watching him in that place like it's great. It's great. But yeah, the NBA League pass is terrible and I am an ex fan. Okay. Like the nicks are good. So I'm not just here bagging on the league. You're a magic fan for reasons. I'm not quite sure. Why are you a magic fan? Yeah. They're just a team that I picked because I knew knew I know what I knew was a magic fan. So I was like, I'm going to be a magic fan from Kansas City, Missouri. So okay. Magic 15 and 7. They're playing good ball right now. They're playing good ball. They are six in a row. They undefeated at home, Nixon and the magical play this week, by the way, and the NBA Cup for all those who've given shit. Um, be like, we're both sitting here of top four teams in the East. Um, look, the NBA's got to fix its product. Okay. Like NBA League pass, the shit sucks. It courts even worse. And then you got half these teams, but I'm not sure even try to win games. Like the 76ers are the most hilarious example of this. What is happening? I saw a story a week ago and I, and yeah, I know everyone I know were way off topic. It's fine. If you want to leave Lee, we're ending the shot like, look, the sixers, there was a story by ESPN and shams, like broke out if he actually wrote it, but I keep broke it. They, they had this big old team meeting and it was like, you know, like Max is airing out and bead. And then the players are telling nurse that he's got a coach from harder and then nurse just like, well, you guys have to like want to play and stuff basically. Like I'm, I'm just paraphrasing one of the wildest quotes I've ever seen, like, they're not quotes, likes a paragraph, just the, the, the players told the coach that they need to be coach harder. And the coach has told the players they want to have to play first. And like, this is the NBA where guys are making like a million dollars a week. And half these teams, load bandage, don't even want to play, don't care. Like, like the pelicans are four and 17 and Zion just wants to go to the Knicks and it's like, yeah, I don't want Zion Williamson. I'm good. Actually, like, I was really unsure about the Carl and the Italian thing will play out. Guys been unbelievable. Yeah. Like, great move. I'm all on board for it. Meanwhile, Minnesota is nine and 10. Okay. So the Knicks like coming out ahead on that trade so far, but like, I love how like two thirds of the NBA is just about who's going to get traded. Yeah. Who's going to get dealt? How much load management is going to have? That is one thing I will say I love about the Knicks. There will be no load management. Okay. You are going to play like there was a game. The last game in the regular season last year, Tom Tiver, they played the Bulls. The game meant nothing in terms of like the Knicks from the playoffs. Everybody in the Knicks, you know, Fiefdom wanted the Knicks to lose because then they wouldn't have played the Sixers in the first round. They would have played like Cleveland, who the Knicks has just killed every time they play them. So it was like, you know, it's like Cleveland. The Knicks were down in the game, came back. They played all their starters for like the entirety of the, in fact, to the point like Josh Hart and Dante even Chenzel literally played every minute. They went, they then went to overtime. And David Chenzel played 53 minutes and the Knicks won the game and after the game, everybody in the media is like, rightly asking Tim and all like, what are you doing? Like, why? You know, you didn't have to be sick. We played a win. We're trying to win. I don't care if we play the 76ers. It doesn't matter. And I was like, I remember watching that press conference, like they're going to beat the 76ers. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They have no fear of them at all. And then went out and promptly kicked their ass and it was like, okay. All right. Like, I would have loved for them to beat the Pacers just if they were healthy to play the Celtics. Yeah. The Celtics were better and probably would have beaten them. The Knicks would have turned that into a, into a suplex match for seven straight games. Oh, yeah. But in any event, whatever, I, I digress point is NBA, fix your stuff. Get rid of your stupid NBA cup courts. Ridiculous. Well, Lisa, the magic one is gray. So it doesn't look that bad, you know, so it's just, it's just like, no, it's just a different color. I think there's some college courts out there that are great. Baylor might have a great court, you know, when you're watching, watching college ball out there. But yeah, I think that's going to do it for this week's edition. Again, like I mentioned at the top of the show, we'll be back for another episode preview and chief chargers, other games coming up on the, on the slate is look, the bills play the lines this week too. Rams. Rams. Rams. Yeah. Again, another big game. Obviously, chiefs are going to be scoreboard watching for the bills and the bills are going to be scoreboard watching for the Chiefs as we come down the stretch here of the, of this NFL season to get the number one seed. Crazy. Think we're already this deep into it. It is really flown by, but I think that's going to do this week's edition of that football show. We'll be back again on Thursday. Appreciate everyone listening to the podcast. Like subscribe. Be a friend, tell a friend. Oh, go check out the KCSN raffles. Well, go to our social media page. Okay. So if KC raffle, we've got that locked and loaded up for you. Go to give butter.com. So it's KCSN sold and get your tickets or you can just Venmo KCS sports network on Venmo for your tickets as well. Go check us out there. Appreciate all of the support as we get in close to the Christmas season, Christmas holiday. We'll have plenty more for you here on KCS sports network. So for my program, I'm Tucker Franklin. 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