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Welcome to Monday Night Live, you guys know what time it is. You know what day it is, 8 o'clock central time, 7 o'clock here in the mountains. And as always, we're going to be talking about Texas football and we're going to be answering your questions. So bring it on, get your super chats on and we'll try our best to end the life in your experience. Obviously a lot going on. It feels like we had very little going on for periods of time and we're all like Ian and I are writing big picture macro articles and now we got some football to talk about. And I'll tell you what, we had a hell of an entertaining spring game and I think we learned a lot about this football team. Some very good things and maybe a couple of holes that we're trying to patch, which will be our next topic as we talk about the portal. So gentlemen, welcome and I'm going to put you on the spot. I want to know what were some of your standouts from the spring game, whether players, schemes, anything else, talk to me. Go for it Ian. I mean, arch manning, we're in dangerous territory of this just being over hyped and oversold because we all know Quinn Ewers is going to play unless he gets injured. We all know he's going to play really well because that's what he's done up till now. And Sark and him are going to be all the better, paired up and in sync. So it's just so tough because arch was so much better in the spring game than most of the quarterbacks we've watched for the last decade and a half of Texas. So it really stands out. But in a related note, the receivers also really stood out. And that'll translate with Quinn or it would translate with Trey Owens probably to some extent. Ryan Wingo was pretty breathtakingly athletic. Bond looked good. John Tae Cook, who we keep hearing about, and we all knew he was going to be really good, but in some ways, he was one of the more impressive guys to my eyes. And I mean, there's a bunch of guys that are on this team that are young and up and coming that are really putting it together. Lianca LaFalle, Anthony Hill looks very comfortable, a linebacker, that's a really good thing to see, even though we've heard it, we haven't had a lot of doubts. I'll save a few for Eric. Eric, what do you think? Team speed stood out to me, especially watching the water receivers. I've fixated on the cover just quite a bit. And so when you do that, you're obviously going to see the receivers. It was funny. I watched the Wingo 1 go by Kobe, and I'm like, oh, Kobe's doing well. He's, oh, well, oh, no. He was with them until he wasn't. Wingo just hit another year, and the ball just was feathered out to him, and the speed really stood out. Bond's a blazer, obviously. Matthew Golden, I was happy to see him get some touches. John T. Cook is not even known for his speed, but he'd be one of the faster guys at most schools. DeAndre Moore, it didn't help the matters that he was a blown coverage, but we obviously know he's fast. So I think team speed really stood out. But guys, I just got off the phone with the source, because I wanted to see some of the things that stood out as outliers, that weren't necessarily availed throughout spring ball, and then where they kind of deviated from the narratives that we were hearing about. And so they said that the defense held its own against the offense, more often than not throughout spring. You would not come to that conclusion after watching them on Saturday. But they were very, very vanilla with their coverages. I think PK had about three calls available to him, and Sark had about 200. But there's some outliers there. And I think Archer was one of them as well. Quinn had the better spring top to bottom. But obviously, all we're talking about is Arch, which I get caught up at it too, because as Paul laid out, the traits are on display. It wasn't that he was just completing passes. It was how he was doing the quickness, the way his body is synced together really stood out. Yeah, for those of you who are interested in a more in-depth dive on that, I wrote a specific piece on Inside Texas, still sitting there now. Disacting Arch Manning and talking about his mechanics. And I'll just say that Arch has considerably improved from last year. And as someone just mentioned in the chat, Arch Manning can hit his free throws. There's some schemes and some routes that Steve Sarkisian will make available to his quarterback, and the key is to hit that shot. And they're not layups, but they are free throws, because you know they're coming, and you can practice it. And if you're duplicable and replicable, and what you do, and you got some skill, you're going to sync those free throws and make us good. Quinn obviously started rough, I mean it didn't start easy for him. Batted ball, Alfred Collins gets the big man touchdown off courtesy of Ethan Burke. But Ian mentioned John Tae Cook, not getting in the end zone. It seemed like every wide receiver flashed. But if you go back and re-watch, which I did, John Tae played really well. And that sideline catch was even better than I thought it was. And I thought it was really impressive when I watched it live, because Manny Mohamed had flawless coverage. An amazing throw by Quinn, by the way, his mechanics on that were flawless. So, look, Quinn didn't play a lot of series for a reason. He's the starter. And I'm really glad we got to see both Trey Owens and Arch Manning. Guys, was there anything from a big picture standpoint? I know we talked about the vanilla nature of the schemes. Was there anything that you saw that, "Ooh, wow, there's a component now to our offense or our defense we didn't have before?" And I might point you to some of the guys lining up on the edge for the Texas Longhorns defense. Colton Vosick, Colin Simmons, even Baron Sorrell, who we thought was not going to play. I think he got excited on game day and demanded to go in the game for a couple of series. So, talk to me about the edges, gentlemen. Ian, I'll throw it to you first. Simmons looks pretty good. That five-star guy that was highly touted out of Duncanville. He looks pretty good. He's so big, so fast. Just as one of those, I mean, he's destined for the NFL, right? His body is just built to be molded into that of a star NFL player. So, it's just a matter of time. But it's going to be maybe a little tricky to get him on the field this year. We didn't even see Trey Moore, who's gotten rave reviews all spring. Colton Vosick was really good. He was really good against the run. He was blowing by people in the past rush. Burke and Sorrell are good. They're both improving. Like, Burke has so much more upside left than what he got into last year. His second year in the program and first year, getting real minutes. So, I mean, they have a legitimate too deep. And then I think next year they'll have a, like, nationally elite too deep at that position. Eric, what do you think? Well, Edge was going to be what I mentioned as well. Colton Vosick, you know, we've heard about his promise. He's just had trouble staying healthy. But throughout spring, he got progressively better, knocking off a lot of rust after. You know, he didn't even suit out for much of last year while he was getting back to health. Seeing him out there, seeing him the first day of practice when they let us go up there for immediate availabilities, you could say, "Oh, man, this guy does look a little different." Quick, strong, technically sound, you know, kind of ahead of the curve for where he should be after missing so much time and still being relatively young too. So, you know, I think they found gold with him. That was a huge flip from OU in real time. I think it looks even bigger now. But Edge, they're going to be more dynamic as far as pass rushing goes, which is going to help out the corners quite a bit. I'm glad you mentioned Muhammad's coverage on that Quinn Ears Throw, which was a great throw as well. That was kind of like a theme throughout spring is, you know, guys, the coverage is right there, but Quinn was able to pinpoint the ball right in and that was a fantastic catch. That's what we hadn't seen enough of, you know. The play just being perfect all around outside of, you know, Muhammad giving up the reception. But there's just so much NFL talent involved on that one play. It was just a microcosm, I think, where the programs headed. Absolutely. And one quick comment before we throw the super chats, we've got a lively chat today. Love it. These folks are fired up about Texas football. They should be. Got a couple of super chats from a couple of stalwarts who always come through for us, like Brett Nelson. Before I do that, I do want to caution on the secondary. There are some things I didn't like what I saw. Keep in mind, Andrew Makuba played very limited snaps. Jade Barron didn't play at all. And Manny Muhammad didn't play a lot and when he did play, they avoided him. So something to keep in mind, I think those are going to be three of the stalwarts in our secondary and there were times when effectively they weren't out on the field. So keep that in mind when you're evaluating those guys. Brett Nelson, as always, coming through for the super chat, love it, Brett. What Quinn, I love this hypothetical, would Quinn's supplant Colt as the second best quarterback ever with a naddy this year? Robert Lane? I'm just kidding. I know he's talking about B1. I would just have to see how the year unfolds. You would think that they would definitely be in the conversation with all these weapons in place. I don't think they're going to win a national championship based on the strength of their defense necessarily. It'd have to be a total team effort. Yeah, I don't know, I just need to see the way it would unfold. I think, you know, I think we all know Colt should have had one. Colt maybe should have had two. And so there's some context that Quinn's going to have to overcome even if he does win a national championship. Colt, I mean, yours has a lot more talent around him on offense. Colt, maybe not on defense, though. So it's kind of a tough call. I think if, if yours won a national championship in the playoff format and expanded playoff with just him, he would probably jump in. I don't know. I guess the hypothetical partly we're indulging. If we're winning the national title, as Eric said, Quinn, yours is going to throw down an amazing season. Yeah, he's going to do it with him game managing all year, right? That's not how it's going to go down. He's thrown for 4,200 yards and 40 touchdowns. I mean, that's what we're talking about. And so, man, I have a great fondness for Colt McCoy. I think he's weirdly almost underappreciated, some long-term fans for how good and durable and consistent he was. Wait, national title trumps a lot. I mean a lot. Can I throw this out there and y'all can call me crazy? I think if you were going to pick a quarterback out of the past to put on a given Texas team now to win, I take Colt over VY every time. But I put VY higher on the great list because what VY did in his era was just unstoppable. No one had seen anything quite like it. Nobody knew what to do. Like, teams didn't even have nickel packages back then. It's like they had no idea what to do against him. Nowadays, if you inserted him in a modern offense, he would be less effective than if you did the same with Colt McCoy, I think. Yeah, I think that's an interesting contention. I've heard you make it before and it gets an interesting reception. But I think by the reasoning that you offer, I think it makes sense. Hey, let me, let's get to Brett's second question. Can we expect Texas to be minimum top three recruiting classes moving forward for momentum and with Saban retiring? I'll actually take a crack at this before I throw this to Eric, even though he may have greater insight. You know what? I don't care. I actually, whether we're the fourth ranked class or the second or the first or the fifth, I just know that SARC, recruiting is a piece. It's the start of the puzzle. And SARC is identifying the right guys and finding the right mental evils. And then we're finding guys that are growing on campus. I mean, DeAndre Moore, you watch his high school tape, Eric, and you go, "Oh, he's pretty sophisticated. Good hands." I guess he's an average athlete for the position and then he gets to Texas and within a year, he's one of the five fastest dudes on the team and the team's not slow. So Eric, I'm going to throw it to you. I hope I didn't blunt your answer here, but I almost think we're going to have really good recruiting classes, and I'm not really particularly concerned where they finish in the rankings, assuming they're always going to be in the top 10. Yeah, there haven't been many misses in the era so far. I mean, there's been a couple, maybe in that first class where they were still getting their feet wet, you know, they were learning the landscape, they didn't have nearly as much time to evaluate them. And like we always talk about, they're evaluating mentally as much as athletically. You know, I think when SARC takes on such a role to get to know these guys, I think he's really trying to get to know them, it's recruiting as well, but it's also, he's got them on a job interview. He's trying to nitpick them here and there and get them talking and find out as much as he can about them, are they self-stars and that sort of thing. I'll take a top five class or top seven class that's not full of wash outs, you know, like A&M had with their 2022 class, I think they built that class the wrong way when they went off, they were stargazing entirely, you know, stargazing gets you in trouble. You're going to take some questionable, questionable evaluations if you do that. One thing that could hurt them is, you know, a lot of the defensive linemen are highly rated. They haven't really landed a ton of those guys, obviously the Colin Simmons is hopefully the start of more of that, but you know, they've tended to average a little bit lower than what we do expect for the Georgia or Alabama has recently. So that's going to hurt them. And a lot of those times you've got to go to the deep south to get them, which makes it a lot harder on Texas being so far away. Yep. Hey, we've got another chat. Go ahead. Yeah, I think the answer is no because of the big humans aspect because Sark and Flynn and PK, they put such a premium on having lots of big guys in their class that they know they can't get from the portal later on, that they end up with enough three stars that are like the right body types that they believe in that's going to keep the class from matching those other top teams consistently. Ian Boyd, what a fine lead-in for this next Super Chat. We're good. Bring it up. From Daniel Kenneman. Daniel, thank you very much. We appreciate it. And as you guys know, we'll try to answer all your questions. But if you Super Chat, you'll always be prioritized. With all the focus on big humans since Sark arrived, how come there's this large deficiency after four years of recruiting, just a number of misses? I think Daniel was referring to interior defensive line there, not offensive line. Eric, I'll throw it to you. Bo Davis was an overrated recruiter. That's kind of the bottom line of it. They had a questionable approach early on. I think they went for smaller bodies to begin with. The first class, 2022, all those guys are fairly small by defensive tackle standards. Then, 2023, they went with Sudir Mitchell and then missed on a handful of other guys. And then they backed off of a number of guys in that class as well that they deemed too small. That's when they kind of, that's kind of when they switched their approach and started going for more size. And then last year was, you know, there was some bad luck involved, obviously, Deontre Robinson wanted out of his, he used the Bo Davis departure to LSU as an excuse to get out, which, you know, that's fine. I understand your relationship is important, but Bo Davis just was not, he kind of became this cult figure because of the Iowa State bus tirade, but, you know, there was a lot of contexts that informs us that he was not the greatest recruiter. But now it's funny, he's quite motivated and working on some of these guys, he's had a relationship with, like Zion Williams, I do think Texas is making up ground there. They have to go big. They're very fortunate that they're one of the few schools that can supplement through the portal as far as defensive tackles go. They're still trying to do that. They got one today. They'll try to get more. It's, they're on narrow margins though. They've got to make sure they hit another portal guy that hopefully a multi-year guy as well, because they're going to lose a lot after this year. Every year that room diminishes just a little bit more. Hey, you guys are segwaying and leading into the next topic beautifully. It's like we got a script here. Let's talk about the portal. Texas landed big Bill Norton, the defensive tackle, the interior defensive lineman from Arizona. He is both a nose tackle, but also a guy, I think you could play him at three or two if you want to just sort of play the run on that strong side, right? And just stuff it down, try to invite a double team and create a little car crash. Bill Norton is a six-year player, so very mature. He's, you'll see him listed at some places at 285. He's about 40 pounds north of that right now. And if you watch his tape and his film, and Ian, I know you have done that, he only started one year. He was originally a Georgia signee, he was actually a fairly Ballyhoot prospect. Left Georgia, went to Arizona, sat there for a while, started last year. And if you look at PFF raids, played credibly, the little tape I've seen, and I'd like to hear your thoughts since I know you dived in deeper, good against the run, big body, hard to move backwards, negligible pass rush. What do you think? That, you summed it up pretty well. The nature of Texas's scheme is actually really beneficial for filling in interior defensive lineman in the portal, because they can use the blitz or these edges that are well positioned to rush the passer. They can kind of just make it work with big, stout guys inside a tackle. They've had better than that recently, right, like a Byron Murphy in particular. But I think they can get by filling in these guys that are just like this guy, Norton, he spent six years making himself a nuisance in the run game, and just teaching himself how to have value by getting in the way. That's really valuable. You need somebody to do that. It can be hard, as we've seen at Texas, to get the high-flying four or five-star blue chip defensive lineman to learn to do that, because it's so thankless and tough and, you know, in glorious. It has nothing to do with rushing the passer or getting stats or tackling people. So I think it's a very useful addition. I don't have much analysis. I think your succinct analysis, though, is pretty much covers it. They'll stick them in there for 30 snaps a game. They'll be hard to move. That's valuable. Good to have them. Hey, Eric, is this the Texas program plucking some available ripe apples? Or is this filling a deficiency that they see on the roster, because they're not happy with what they're getting from their current guys within the scheme? I think it's a mix of both. Obviously, you know, Nancy's prior relationship is going to help out quite a bit, with him and maybe Jay Toya as well. I know a lot of people weren't excited about Nancy and the possibility of him being a defensive tackles coach. I don't know, man. That might not have been the worst outcome, just based on how he's helping the fill-out deficiency. I think it's a little bit of both, though. They're quality players. Again, we talked about it, Paul, you've written about it for years, is there's not a lot of substitute for maturity, physical maturity. You'll take that over the five star that has more baseline athleticism that's early in his development. A guy like Bill Norton, that's 23 years old or whatever, who's physically mature, mature like a lot of NFL players in some ways, as far as just physical stature. You'll take that guy, especially on a one-year rental. He's not clogging up a whole lot of eligibility while he gets to that point of being able to give you really good snaps. Again, they're fortunate. Not many schools are like that. I don't think Texas fans realize how good they have it, that UT's NIL is in pretty good shape. They've got a very proactive staff that is obsessed with having a roster that they can win with. I know we were asked about depth earlier. They're just never satisfied with improving the baseline talent on the roster. Hey, let's talk about a talented guy. The portal gives. The portal takes, Texas has been taking more from the portal than they've been giving the last two years, and maybe the inverse early in Sarcs tenure. They lost Savion Red. Savion Red is a good athlete. He's not without some traits. He showed up fairly heavy at the beginning of spring practice, 240+, seems to have played himself into shape a little bit, at least from the spring game. He's a dynamic guy. He's certainly a dog on the field. I'm not going to say, is he going to be missed, but do we have enough in the running back room to replace him? Is there anything that he offers that we don't have the ability to replace? He had a really versatile skill set. He ran with power, but he also had soft hands, and he was pretty elusive in open space despite his size. Ran very hard. The hardest running back on the roster to tackle one-on-one, as far as if you do an Oklahoma drill and you've got to square them up. Not many people were too eager to do that, but the room is talented top to bottom. There's no dead space on the roster, really, but in that room in particular, all those guys have, I think all of them, including Trey Wisner, can be 1,000-yard rushers given the right circumstances. Odd man out, they're going to try to take two more in this next cycle. That's just how they want to recruit. We wish them luck. He's definitely an interesting prospect that has a lot of value for the right team. It'd be really curious to see them on a team like a G5 program that really wants to run the ball 20, 30 times with their lead back and are willing to put up with some stuff to have a star. I'd be really curious to see that. I think you could maybe be phenomenal in the right context. I'm a good member of the Mac. He's got some real Berger on to him. He's a good player. I'm a gambling degenerate, so I watch a fair amount of G5 football, because that's where you could actually find some advantage, if you kind of know football and broadly what match-ups mean, and Stavion could do work there. In the chat, someone says, "Question is, was he at Rojo level?" No. Not right now. But Roshawn Johnson was the model citizen football player at the University of Texas, and I think Sagan Rod had some distractions from time to time. Yep. Absolutely. Connor, bring us some questions. I'm going to trust you, my man. Wow, us. All right, lone wolf. All right. Well, thanks for joining our packed lone wolf. I'm going to try not to have our alphas eject you, Ian. You're an alpha. Is Texas going out to the corner out of Colorado since our corners are getting beat? This is a crisis, Eric, Nalene. Are you aware that our corners got beat? Is Wardell Max starting for us in September? No, I had no idea. All right. Yeah, it's not like Jadae Baron, and I think Malik Muhammad would fare up pretty well out there. I don't think, didn't Dion have some disparaging things to say about Kormani and his buy-ins. I mean, if that's the case, if Dion's got things to say about Kormani, McLean's buy-in. Dion, of course, doesn't really, he says that the culture is overrated, which I find hilarious. But yeah, I don't think they're going to go after that. I think our lone wolf is stargaze in a little bit here, guys. Yeah, even if you don't feel great about the corners, I think Muhammad is going to be very good, and they could play Baron there if they need to. So I don't know. Maybe they'll sniff around, but I don't feel like that's really, I mean, obviously, defensive tackle. And I would say even maybe Punner is a higher priority, although that kid's Barrett was pretty darn good in his one or two pints of the spring game. You didn't read my little update today. I think they might go after a DB. We'll see. We'll see if anybody leaves, then they'll definitely go for one, but they might go for one anyways. Ian told me he doesn't read most of your stuff, Eric, no offense. We have a question from our own, Justin Wells, but before that, I want to remind Mike a lone wolf that the strength of the pack is the wolf and the strength of the wolf is the pack. All right, Justin. What do you got? Oh, this is great. Justin, thanks for being a turd. What's David Pierce's future at Texas? Could you go into detail who could be his replacement and if arch manning should start in his Texas, good and his petty John on commit watch and all right, I feel like he's setting us up. We're not going to touch some of these David Pierce's future at Texas. I do a podcast, everyone gets a trophy podcast with a very good former Texas Longhorn pitcher and he is always very optimistic about Texas baseball and he loves it dearly, but I think there are some concerns, I think, and that they're well justified with Pierce, not only from this season, but also from a leading indicator standpoint and I know it's something Eric and I talk about a lot. You're leading indicators matter a lot more than you're lagging indicators and we'll see about that. Arch manning, you should start and petty John, we're going to skip the arch manning part. Petty John, commit watch, what do you think, Eric? We getting this guy? Oh, they're getting them. I just don't know when and I don't care when, you know, that's I need something to cover in July, but they're in great shape for, for Petty John going back to last calendar year. I think Johnny Nance has done a great job picking up where Jeff Chote left off. The kid, I think, profiles to UT in a lot of ways. He's, he's, he's bought in with some of those fellow DFW prospects that are looking pretty good for Texas. So I think the writing's been on the wall for that one for a while and you know, we just got to, you guys will sweat it out. I feel pretty good about it. All right. All right. All right, all right, Santiago, what do you guys think is a good number of receptions for each receiver? Hey, man, I have no clarity after what I saw in that spring game. We have a lot of wide receivers who can ball. I look, we were really debating in the off season before the real football started and we had substantive subs to talk about. We were thinking like, we know Sarc's predilection is pick his three, they get all the reps, they eat all game, right? But then we were kind of looking at the depth and saying, you know, this might be the year Sarc has got to play five or six. And here's my thought and you guys critique this. I think he's going to play six. I think he is going to let their willingness to block and their knowledge of the playbook prune the playing time through September. I'm interested in what you guys think. I mean, that would make a lot of sense, right? Give Wingo a chance. And if an older guy doesn't want to block, then we got Wingo, you know, I mean, hopefully we'll throw his body around too. I've asked about that. Wingo throws body around bond is a little bit, you know, he came from whoever taught 80 Mitchell out of, out of block must have taught Isaiah Bonn, but they'll, they'll tighten that up. They'll get it right. John Tae Cocoa block. So, you know, I think Wingo, here's a question, Wingo might have the highest draftable upside outside of the quarterbacks who tend to get overdrafted anyways, non quarterback player on the team. I think Wingo has the highest draft upside. Hey, you know who doesn't always block, but has plenty of time to work on it after I rewatch the scrimmage? Parker living. Oh, yeah, not a big block. All right, what do we got? I think we got a super chat. All right. You guys are bringing it with the super chats. And as always, they get prioritized freelance society, we have to hire you on freelancer since vertical threats have been an issue. Will Texas ever play three high safeties? Would that work at the SEC? I wish there was someone on this Monday Night Live who had written about three high safeties who knew something about that, who had dubbed a name for it, that now the national press uses, and maybe even wrote a book about it that's still available on Amazon. Eric, is that you or Ian talk to me? It would work in the SEC. It's done. It's been done before a little bit. When Jalen catalog won the freshman All-American, he was playing in that scheme in Arkansas. Can I interject, though? That Arkansas defense sucked. Well, okay. All right. I think it would work in the SEC, but I don't think we're going to see it at Texas. I don't think Pete Kwikowski is particularly interested in it. He's got like this long career of successful defenses, not doing that. They dabbled in it with Gary Patterson in 2022 for like half a game. They were bad. They were very invested in it. And from what I've heard, Patterson thought it would be a good idea, but then he wasn't there anymore. I just don't think that's really -- I think he would rather -- three-eye safety is something a lot of teams do when they can't just like play straight and play man. And when you can recruit five-star defensive backs out of DFW in Houston, and you can -- and you want to recruit them to come play man and play in the NFL, the three-eye is a little less appealing. There's ways you could make it work and still develop NFL skill sets and all that. But that's so many levels beyond what Texas does right now down that path. I just don't -- I don't think so. Not with this coaching staff. It also requires, I think, a total systemic commitment to making it work and running it. Because you can get into more trouble of three-high safeties. If you don't run it correctly, then you might think. You might actually end up not only giving up the run because the guys don't know where to fit, but you actually end up giving up deep balls because guys don't know who to bite on and run up on and who to stand back and hang. So it's a real commitment. I don't see Texas ever doing it because the belief is that we can recruit the guys to play more conventional past defenses that can be a little more limiting against the elite offenses. Vinnables might, Vinnables even used it -- I mean, he shut down Ohio State in 2019. Do you remember in 2019, a lot of the national media thought Ohio State was one of the best football teams they'd ever seen, even though LSU was happening at the same time. And then Vinnables used that, I call it the flyover, that three-safety look. He adjusted to it after a couple of scores and he shut down Ohio State and just completely confused Ryan Day. If he worked against that team, I'm sure he could work in the SEC from the right coach. Maybe Vinnables will make it happen. All right. From our man, David Keith Williams, at Eric Nalim, he doesn't care about our opinions, Ian. Do you think Ishaan Johnson has moved ahead of Andrew March and Marcus Harris in the tier two wide receiver group below Dicorian Moore, Philippe Locket, and Jamie French in the tier one wide receiver group? Eric, how about it? Well, yeah, I think he asked me because I know that that's Kelshan Johnson and not Kishan Johnson. I can't read because I'm blind. We already talked about this. Now, Jamie French is accurate. My wife does our newsletter and she's like, "Can you guys get rid of this typo?" And I'm like, "That's not a typo. It's probably how they do it." You know, I don't know that he's moved ahead. I think that there's a handful of guys that they would take commitments from. I think every single person on that list, they would take a commitment from it. It just kind of depends on what order they go in. Obviously Moore has a spot in the class until the very last second, but right now, yeah, they would take Kelshan. They would take Morris. They would take Marcus Harris. I'm not sure how they have them necessarily grouped as far as preference goes, but they're all takes. They're pushing for all of them. It's going to end up being a stellar wide receiver class. We just kind of have to figure out how it plays out, but, you know, they have made up a lot of ground on French. He's very high up the list. Dicorian Moore, I think everybody knows how Inside Texas feels about that one. Kelshan, they like speed. Kelshan just has really good football make-up, too. Guy could play DB if he wanted to. He's hard-nosed. Good all-around athlete, track star, basketball player. They like that athletic profile that he has. I would think it's fair to say that they're higher on Kelshan than a lot of schools, but they take all those guys, and it just depends on how the commitments transpire, and that's kind of like how it's going to be for some other positions, too. Some guys that could commit now might not have a spot in July, so, you know, I think they're going to start pressuring guys in the way they want to after this mid-evaluation period, but not quite yet. They don't want to rush these guys, because they're still trying to do all their homework as well. Yeah, David, I was just teasing you on the intro. Eric is the expert with recruiting, and I'm glad you pitched it to him, because apparently I didn't know it was Kelshan, Johnson, except Keishan, and until I already said the name, I didn't want to backtrack. So Syracuse horn, which is it, man? Is it Syracuse or the horns? Which orange? Rumblings that a defensive starter may be hitting the road. Any comments? Yeah, that's part of an update that we had today. I'm not going to put the player's name out, just in case he stays. I don't think that's fair to him. Sometimes these things can kind of spin out of control, and if it goes out there public, and, you know, they start hearing the talk on the internet, it's just, you know, it's not good. But that's definitely possible, but I'm not sure that, you know, Texas will be okay. Don't worry about it. Yeah, but I'm not going to put the player's name out. Is this his name, Ryan, with spray day Aaron? Spray day Aaron. Oh, did they bear? No. How about your leak? Row Hummond. No, and not Vernon either. I think Vernon got married the other day, right? He did get married in Paris. You show girl Paris. That is bizarre. I just spent three nights in Austin for the stupid spring game, and he's getting married. I remember being nervous and having butterflies going into my bar city high school coach's office to miss a Tuesday practice because I had strep throat. Yeah. I actually had strep throat. Man, yeah, oh my Lord. And he's wearing a magic hole. Oh, man. All right, Brent Canard was start doing a bit of DT recruiting trickeration when he limited Collins playing time and sent brought into Paris. This is this is five D chess, so I've got it turned to Ian. What do we think? Was there some trickeration going on here or did brought himself select to go to Paris and that was not a part of a master plan? Maybe on Collins, right, especially after he like on the pick six before the pick six, he like shoved DJ Campbell into the backfield, which I hadn't noticed until like, I don't know the fourth time I watched it. And I was like, Oh, wait a minute, like Collins was dominating that rep and just happened to be rewarded by, you know, the Burke tip pass. He didn't play very much after that. He was also wasn't really as good after that, maybe used to fall as gas on the, on the interception return. But I mean, there might be something to that, right? They were hosting Jay Toya, right? And I think they were hosting Bill Norton as well. Yep. And then, you know, put it on a film for demonic Williams, as we like to call him, coming on Tuesday and Wednesday, right? Yeah. Yeah, Brent, I like the, I like the sneakiness and I think there may be something there at the Alfred Collins thing. Not so sure about Vernon Broughton. I think that was a self selection on Mr. Broughton's part and we'll, we'll see how that shakes out. Eric, any thoughts or shall we move on? Now you can move on. All right. Oh, look at David to get it all the press. All right. What do you think about Trevor Goosby? He didn't play great Saturday, but I really think he will be very good LT and Kelvin Banks when Kelvin Banks turns pro. I think it'll be a high NFL draft pick thoughts on Goosby's play. Yeah. My, my coaching buddy was at the coaching clinic and saw a lot of the recent practice footage was very high on Goosby and we've heard nothing but good things about him. He still lacks some experience. He hasn't played a ton. The edge room is improved. So he's going up against a heightened competition. I'm not worried about him. He's one of the hardest workers on the team and we know he's got really good overall talent. So that basketball background, that basketball build that goes into offensive lineman build. I'm not worried about him. He's got plenty of time still, you know, hopefully Kelvin stays healthy, but no, I think he'll be fine. I wouldn't. Again, I don't, I don't try to, this is a very small sample size. I'll put more priority on what I'm hearing behind the scenes over the course of 14 practices rather than what happened in the 15th one. Can I just remind everyone? One of Banks is a unicorn, that's what he did as a freshman is not how it's supposed to go down. You're supposed to look like Trevor Goosby and struggle a little bit and then grow and learn and I, you know, like Eric, I've heard nothing but good things about him. Yeah, I remember, I remember thinking that counting on Banks to come in and start as a freshman was pretty fanciful and because it just doesn't happen very often and Texas doesn't have a lot of guys that end up being that good. Like you see him every couple of years at like Georgia or Alabama, traditionally, but sure enough, they don't need guys quite that good to be very good at football. Like, Banks is really unique. Sork after dark asks, do we have enough depth to play 16 games and win? Well, I'll say this compared to who? Yeah. Right. So, the question for any of this, I would struggle to name two or three more, two or three other teams in college football with more depth than Texas. What about you, gentlemen? Well, even Georgia isn't super in love with their amount of depth, I think, for a 16-game season. So, you know, it's going to be a war of attrition because it's going to require some good fortune. You know, any team that wins it with that playoff structure is going to require a little bit of luck. But we'll see. If anybody can do it with the depth they have, it's Texas. Probably one of the best ways to help ourselves is to play 15 games, right? Right. Go in the S&P, get that by. Right. Yep. Come on out. Yeah. Mu asked, what's the difference between Lacey and the quarterback from Duncanville? Does one fit Sork scheme better? Well, they offer another QB. Guys, well, interesting question, Eric, what do you think? Well, this is where it's a little over my pay grade. You're going to trust Sark's read of who processes better. So much of playing quarterback is processing. Me sitting on my couch in Montgomery, Texas, doesn't have the same evaluation of Lacey as Sark does. But Kiillen Russell, by all accounts, has high mental aptitude for the position. He's showing a lot of improvement. But one thing, Lacey's field vision really stands out, so you just trust Sark on that. Will it be a two quarterback class? You know, they're not recruiting Kiillen Russell just to get to Corey and Moore. So that means that they're either waiting to see what KJ does if he stays true to his commitment. I tend to think if he has this official visit to Texas in June, it stays committed to that that they'll be okay. But they might just be playing defense and doing their due diligence in case they need to. But also, they're going to only have three quarterbacks on scholarship next year. You know, the Quinn will be gone and you got Arch Owens and Lacey, or maybe not even Lacey. So I don't think it's going to be a two quarterback class, but I wouldn't be surprised either way. But I do think it's processing skill that has Lacey with his wide, you know, Sark push for Lacey so early. Can I? Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Okay. I watched Russell recently because people have been very high on him. I've noticed in the chats. And I remember a few years back, there was another Duncanville quarterback that went to Texas. The people were insisting was like a generational game changer guy that didn't really pan out that I was always skeptical of and really didn't work out a quarterback. So I was a little skeptical again when it was like Keel and Russell, Texas has to get this guy. He's the alpha of alphas. So I watched him recently and he is not like the other guy. His skill as a passer is really impressive. You made a couple throws that I caught that were pretty eye opening. So it is very, I'm a big guy. I'm a big Lacey guy, but it's a pretty interesting debate. Hey, I'll say this about taking two quarterbacks. This era of NIL and the open portal, you can date people, you don't have to marry them. You get two bites at the apple, you get to evaluate them on campus in situations that you like, right? And then the guy that doesn't pan moves on and there's no hard feelings. So we may see that be a model, particularly in the years as you pointed out where we have a lighter scholarship room with quarterback. So yeah, just something to think about. These tactics may adjust over time. From Geronimo. All right, 2.0, much better than 1.0. Is Texas serious about getting a DB out of the portal? Little repetitious, we did have an article about that inside Texas. Eric, on a scale of seriousness between 5 and 37, what is our current level of seriousness? I would say 24. Okay. And give that answer more seriously. If they lose a DB, they'll take a DB, right? They're not trying to really good DBs and probably they're looking more for a corner than safety. And so we'll just have to see if they lose somebody or not. There's a real chance they do lose somebody, but again, there's not. I think there's a guy from Western Kentucky that looks okay. I haven't really seen a whole lot of corners that jump out, but it's a possibility for sure. The addition to this was, does that make a deal with the DB performance in the spring game? I'd say no. I think it's agnostic to that. What do you think again? I mean, more like the 14 practices beforehand, like you noted earlier, if they, like Eric is saying, if they lose a guy, they may want to take him for that, a guy for that reason. And then it'd be based on the practices more so than what we saw in the spring game, which may or may not have been indicative of what to expect from these guys. So, thank you so much. How did your second question was true, which is good instincts. So why are we suddenly hearing this? That's for the reason Derek said, if we lose one, we'll take one. And also, you don't know who's going to go into the portal. We just don't know. And I don't see the portal DB standout right now, but it can happen. So why wouldn't you take a shot at it? You know, this, this coaching staff thinks they have a very good team. And I think they're going to push in the chips. Sigurd Amaya is Ian sipping on whiskey. He often is. What's up, Ian? It's just apple juice. It's like a, like in a movie. Did you take it from one of your kids? Yeah. I thought so. One of the kids did not finish their dinner. So apple juice for daddy. I sure, as a dad to put on weight is when your kid doesn't finish their dinner and you just finish it for him. Yeah. You stack that up for 30 something consecutive nights and you're like, I need to run a little more. Jacob Woodward says the entire team just looks night and day different from 2021. It's really wild the size and speed difference, in my opinion. Yes. Amen. Co-signed. And let me add one thing, our Jacob, viable second team offensive line. So on the rewatch of the scrimmage, when you go with the second team offensive line, particularly when you even took out majors and banks, which they did fairly early, there's not this massive drop off where you can't even run the offense. And if you think back to 2021, that was the case. You literally couldn't run the scrimmage anymore because you didn't have enough quality offensive lineman to even stop, you know, to even be a turn style. So not just team speed size, but man, we're starting to build out some depth and some critical areas. Eric, what do you think about the size and speed differential? Yeah. I mean, that's how they're getting to the point where they can, you know, reload rather than rebuild. They've got these guys that, you know, a lot of fans forget about that are developing this whole time. Well, you know, everybody pays attention to starters. You've got a lot of guys putting in work, wanting to, wanting to become a starter themselves. I think competition is through the roof. I think their evaluations have been very good. Again, they went with the, they got the guys that have that size that they're looking for. It's just in a really good, the program's in a really good place. I'm running out of things to write about it. You know, who would have thought that we would have been here after going five and seven, that first year, eight and five, the next, it's just, you know, Sarcs got them on. The record is following. Agreed. Toronto, again, 2.0 because he gets two questions. How crazy is it that Boston and Burke were book-ending West Lakes pass rush? That is insane. That's got to be an all-time high school leg duo. I was actually, I remember thinking about that at the time and coming up with a couple of corollaries. Ian, do you remember that when we were kind of like brainstorming? But they were incredible. They were so dominant and they were a big part of that national, of the state championship team. Probably would have went on a national title too if they'd played the other high schools. Just a wither and pass rush and both of them, 6.5, 6.6, 2.30 and just bringing it on every play, batting down balls and causing havoc. Ian, can you think of a comparable high school edge duo? Justin Wells would probably be the guy for that or Eric. But didn't they end up in the 6.8 Division II bracket also? Yeah. So, they just murdered everyone. Yeah, I wish that we had seen them against, I don't know, a different all-time. They're up there with that KD team from 2015 that just had this unbelievable run with like the defense was insane. Giovanni, Stewart or whatever the guy went to West Virginia in a bunch of 3A guys. I kind of wish we'd gotten to see him against, I don't know, North Shore and Duncanville at least. Eric, how do you think about both of those guys that are a member, not anyone on our crew, thank God, because they know their ball, but I remember reading a couple of other rival services debating whether the super skinny, tall, 6'6", 230 guys were maxed out because they played it Wesley. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's as lazy as it gets as an evaluator to not even understand the basics of what those guys' bodies we're going to turn into and say. Well, they think those rich kid schools, they think the players are soft. Yeah, but watch the players. They're super hard-nosed, yeah. And they haven't even grown into their bodies, right? These guys, everyone knew they're going to play at 255, 260, maybe even 270s one day, right? Yeah. Those schools notoriously have guys that are like 6'1", 250, playing guard that are maxed out, right? They've capped out their athletic potential, they've been prepared for this their entire lives to be a chaperral state champion, right? That does happen. But those guys are not the 6'6" guys that play lacrosse at a D1 level in the offseason. And Vosik had sophisticated NFL rush moves, even as a high school senior. It was shocking. All right. He didn't go to mind. What crew have you been most wrong about over the last five years? I'll lead off. It's actually not the last five years, but they jumped to mine and it always is a caution for me with certain body types. I, Taylor Bible, like if you guys can remember him as a defensive tackle, he had us dominant a junior set of tape as I've ever seen in high school. And then he basically just ate himself out of football. Sonny Davis from Austin, Lanier, absolutely dominant athlete, huge body, but I mean, really great feet, 4940 in high school at like 330 and just ate himself out of football. It's tragedy, but it's something that really, I had to caution that you need to investigate that part of the recruit as well. And Eric always talks about the mental eval and boy, I didn't have the ability to do the mental eval on those guys, but it was a big cautionary tale for me on both of those recruits. I got to go with Hudson Card. I mean, I thought it was going to be a great college quarterback and that hasn't been the case. So that was a pretty clear miss within the last five, yeah, five years, there's a lot of them. You learn something from each one of them. You know, what, what did you get wrong? What did you get right? And you try to, it's a, it's a constant learning curve like Paul's talking about. The verdict isn't in yet, but Brandon Thompson, I thought would translate a little better. It seems like maybe track has been a little bit of a distraction almost. I mean, if you're a track star, is it really a distraction or is it just a worthy, you know, other pursuit? But I thought like get Brandon Thompson and Evan Stewart and Texas would be cooking with gas for years and they scored neither and have been in great shape. So I thought you were going to go Cloud Porter. All right. Oh man, freelance society, bringing it, love this guy, uh, it's stark under real pressure this year to beat OU, seems like one regular season game he has to win thoughts on OU spring game. Uh, I'll start. If you guys don't mind, I did not see OU spring game. I will be watching it, or I could just ask Ian for the download. I'm sure he's watched it several times, but, uh, it's stark under real pressure this year to beat OU. For me. I don't know. I don't know about anyone else, but one in three against OU ain't ain't ain't it? That's not what we want from SARC. And there's many reasons that he started slow, obviously that the team he started with wasn't great. But boy, those games have been, they could have gone either way. The two of them that were competitive losses to OU, but SARC needs to find a way to get some stops from that defense when it matters. What do you guys think, um, I mean, I'm still mad from, you know, I can, I can remember how I felt walking out of that state or trying to walk out of that state and we were all stardines couldn't get out of there, which made it even more miserable. Um, yeah, it felt like, Oh, you wanted that game more. And that's to me, that's the, that's the bad part about it. Right? That's the thing that's hard to accept. And then they played, they played a cleaner game for the most part. They backed it up. So I do think he needs to win it, but I mean, what, what does real pressure mean? I mean, if he loses it, it's not like he's, they just signed them to a gigantic contract keeping away from Alabama. So what, you know, I don't know what, I don't know what it practically means. He should win. I hope he wins, but nothing happens if he doesn't. The game would have to, uh, really cap Texas is sealing next year to put serious, like administrative pressure on SARC if you lost, um, although it would be like the following year that it starts to be, you know, the one in three area, you're going to beat this team eventually, right? Um, the plus, like with the playoff now, like they could play Oklahoma on the playoffs. So that's like, I'm a big fan of the expanded playoff, but things like that are the one thing that give me a lot of pause about it. It's just diminishing the impact of that game. Yeah. Talk about that. Like you're devaluing the regular season a little bit, and that's, that's one of the things that made college football so special. Um, so you know, you could take another hack at OU again. So I like this guy, Tom Doyle, uh, Tom, feel free to write in any time. Paul, are you releasing another magazine this year? I'll really enjoy the insights and previews of all the teams we played last year. I had it shipped all the way to Tokyo. Tom, thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Yep. I will be writing it. It is going to be a chore and a half with the new SEC and all the teams I'm going to have to cover in addition to our noncon and all the other stuff I put in there, but I really appreciate that you liked it. And I've gotten a lot of questions and comments about it and I'm going to be working on it hard very soon. And for all of you who want to be informed, not just by a big preview book, but also every day, you need to come to inside Texas. That is where the good Longhorn conversation is happening in every sport. Use promo code IT1 to get two months of inside Texas.com for one buck. Ian, how much is that for a week? Chase. He didn't know there was going to be math. No. So I'll hop up on Apple juice. Yeah. You guys, you've seen the Sally Struthers commercials for just a few cents a week. 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