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Yeah. Russell's been off air for an hour and he's still here. I said, "What are you doing here big guy? What's going on here?" And I invited him into the studio. Yeah. Yeah. I'm an idiot, first off. Let's start with that. I should have been long on the way home by now, but I was just doing some research, you know? I mean, got a big show to prepare for on Friday morning, guys. Tell Danny about this. What are you doing for that morning? So I had a four-day weekend, which was really a three-day weekend because we've got to be at Northwest Stadium all day on Sunday to watch the commanders get their asses kicked by Jeffrey Simmons and Harold Langerton's defensive line. They're not getting beat by the Titans. Okay. Do you think they are? I picked against them. Yeah. Do you think the Titans beat them? Yeah. I mean, unless we'll have us throws up all over himself, which is entirely possible, but they're going to get their ass kicked along the trenches. I think that they're going to have problems with Simmons and with sweat and that defensive for it. Yeah. Devundria, sweat and Harold Landry and all those guys. I just think that the Titans are going to turn the ball over. Well, and you barely-- It's not like that defensive line's been a big problem for everybody. I mean, it's been much more of a problem than the record would indicate. It's why-- Yeah. They're top three defensive line. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of canyons. But a lot of people are sleeping on that because Levis and who is the backup quarterback once they traded Malik Willis when Levis went injured? That played earlier this year? Yeah. Who am I? Mason Roof. Yeah. Because they-- I said it went off weird, by the way. Yeah. Mason Roof. They still suck. That's why they're three and eight. Not because they're defensive. Right. And they haven't even had luxurious need for like the good news seven weeks. They still aren't good. And they're going to be playing in Landover, Maryland. Fair. Yeah. Not even with the Cowboys. We'll come back to the commanders and the Titans. So-- So he's got a four day weekend, Danny. Yeah. Yeah. This is the most slashy thing that's ever slashed. So-- You don't know what he signed up to do. So our network, Infinity Sports Radio, called me yesterday and asked me if I would be willing to do the 6 a.m. to 10 a.m. shift on Friday morning, the morning after Thanksgiving. And I thought about saying no. And you know how I operate? I'm a little sick of the brain. I was like, well, I haven't done a talk show in like, I don't know, 10 or 11 months on a national level. I'm like, let me just keep my name alive. What's the big deal? I could do it from home. You know, I'll just drink a lot of coffee and I'll take a nap afterwards. No big deal, right? And I-- like, what did I do? As soon as you said, yes. What did I do? No way they pay well, right? I mean, it's-- I mean, it's not exactly-- What company is it? What company is it? It's our company. No, that's the joke. That's the big deal. Thank you. You walked into it. Same, the quiet part of it. It's our company. Oh, it is? So you didn't do it for money. Well, great. Grant is so oblivious to like things that are normal for everyone else. I didn't know if he understood that Infinity Sports Radio was the network that our company owns. Infinity Sports-- I have a show on it every weekend, Saturday. Oh, I don't know. Countdown, too. Oh, I thought that was about QL. Oh, wait. Well, that's our company, too. Guy. So anyway-- Okay. So one's of dollars will change hands. Yeah. So there's a new shift that I do. But he's waking up at probably when's your alarm going to be set? $4.50. $4.45. $4.45. The day after Thanksgiving on Friday, which affects your whole Thanksgiving-- Sure does, yeah. The whole holiday. Yeah. So that you could do a four-hour show. Yeah. And then I'm going to go to command land and go to practice because it's the only chance I get to go to practice. You have to learn how to say no. I know. So on this one, I actually get his perspective where it's like-- Are you? --on this one. If you say no, then they go to the next guy, and then you're just off the list. Like I've done gigs before. I've done things before where you're like, if you just-- they'll just never ask you. So I'm also trying to save the world from Lynelle Willingham. That is what people think, and that is the fear, right? Most people. That's not really how it works. Generally speaking, here's what's happening. Whoever called you is probably like, oh, I got to get someone, and he looks at a list of people, and you're on that list, and he calls you and you say no, and he goes to the next person. The next time he has something, he's going to look at the same list. It's not like he takes a sharpie through Chris Russell's name because he can't work the morning after Thanksgiving. That's not what that-- Some people do, but not-- you're probably right. Not if you're good at it, not if you go on and you crush it, not if when you've done it before. But they haven't asked for like 10 months because they know I don't really want to do it. Right. They know this. C.K. must have told them. Stop asking. Stop asking. We want to do it. It must have said something to them once. Is it true that you don't want to do it? I mean, do I want to get up at 4.45 in the morning on Friday? No. I mean-- So were you doing the Friday 6 a.m. show in the past? No. That's what I'm saying. So what shifts did you not want to do in the past? I just didn't want to do any of them. I mean, like Saturday, noon to 5. How can we ruin your day anymore? Let's talk for five hours on National Radio about stupid college basketball and act like we care about Iowa versus Nebraska. It's a good end to slash. That's a great promo for it. Yeah. I mean, at least we have something to care about. The three Thanksgiving day games that you guys were going to discuss that I'm stomping it all over. Yes. So why don't we get to that? Let's do that. Let's break it down. There are three games that Russell's going to be breaking down in great detail. Come Friday, must listen, stop over on the Infinity Sports Network. Just what everyone's waking up at 5.59 a.m. on Black Friday, running out to Walmart. Exactly. All the soccer moms that are going to be like pushing each other for like to save 20 bucks. Doorbusters and Chris Ross. Exactly. How much Black Friday shtick are you going to be doing on this show? No. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. I'd have this year. I mean, what's your most after the holidays? Give us a shout. Like to me, I could do some of that. But I mean, at least we've got three NFL games and then we have another NFL game later on that day. That's true. The Kansas City, Las Vegas showdown. The Black Friday. Tell me. Michigan, Ohio State, rivalry weekend and college football, all that stuff. Big NFL Sunday. I wish it was a good NFL game on Black Friday. The fact that it's Raiders Chiefs is a total bummer. We Islanders beat the Capitals and I won't happen either. You're on a DC guy. I'm just trying to get a rise at it. You wonder why people get upset with it. It's not the toe. It's not the middle of the foot. What part of the foot is it? I'm just trying to get a rise at it. The heel. I'm just trying to get an offense. Okay. But you know what's interesting about this Russell? Nothing. Yes. There's a lot of things. It's not that you say stuff like that. You go, why are people always so mean to me? Because you wear a team Canada jacket around after they eliminate Team USA. Well, I mean, in fairness, I was 13 years ago. I was a little dumber there. And you did after that? People were like, dude, that's ridiculous. Why are you doing that? And you're like, where are you guys so upset? You can't shoot people and then be upset that they're upset. A certain swim in the ocean cover with fish guts. I've grown up a lot since then. You know, I've become a lot more aware of, you know, how not to purposely piss off people and occasionally I still make a bad joke. But you know, you're not a troll at all. No, not at all. I don't know. You just see his social media. Oh, he blocked me. So you can't see it. No, you're not blocked. You're unblocked. You're unblocked. He's muted. He's not blocked. I'm muted. See, see, this is blocked forever. That unmuted him. Right. This out grant doesn't see all of my brilliant points and how wonderfully smart I am because he thinks I'm annoying or it makes his timeline messy or sloppy or something like that. Got me in here. So two things happen. Number one, he argues with people constantly and I'm tagged on it. I don't do that anymore. Okay. Why? What you do? Because you got muted for it. Okay. So he will argue with some like, HTTR 24L 6AA, uh, egg avatar who's like sending me pictures of my children and trolling me and doing whatever awful things that people do on Twitter, right? And Russell's having this like detailed back and forth about third down defense with this guy calling everyone names. The Jim and Davis's usage could be and I'm tagged on 15 of these things. I don't care. Here's how I treat Twitter. If you're a nice, reasonable person, I interact with you occasionally. I can't even look at my acts that much anymore because people are so mean and awful. So for the most part, I wait till I get a personal affront or something terrible said and I mute that person. I don't really block them. The reason Russell's muted, actually, now he was unmuted. I had a muted for months because he just kept, I kept seeing all this crap, right? Because it is a lot. It is a lot. So finally, I said, is this beneficial to me? It's not personal to Russell. I'm still following him. But do I? Does my day get better? Because I see anything that he's tweeting. And I said, no, I don't think it does, right? So then I muted him. Now, after a month of being muted, he came over one day and he's like, am I still muted? And I was like, I don't think so. A little bit of a sob story ensued, I think, right? It's like, I don't think so, but we're good pals. We're going to think, you know, we hang out in real life, sitting next to each other in the press box. We're good friends. And then sure enough, he was still muted. And I said, I apologize and I unmuted him. And then he muted me two weeks ago. So then more recently, it came to my attention by Russell telling me that, truly, he's like, you got to check my tweets. And I'm like, well, he didn't see what he's like, I'm like, what'd you do? He's like, you didn't see what I did? And I'm like, no, what'd you do? And he goes, check my last tweet. And so I think the bears are the lions had won. And so he did Brad Holmes Alert with like, sirens. Oh, I see. Brad Holmes is the excellent GM who picks great players and does an amazing job. And he's like, pretty well. Love Brad Holmes. And I'm like, okay. And I just kind of look at my, yeah, and he's like, this is to make fun of you for the Ben Johnson Alert. Just to twist his horns a little bit, that's all. So that's fun. Am I bothered by that? No. He's telling me, hey, look at my account. I'm making fun of you for no reason. True and real quick. You get to see this. So Ben Johnson's team scored 50 points. And that was your time to get up to kind of rid me that I like Ben Johnson. Nothing about it made sense. And I said, oh, okay. I needed him again. Are you okay? Have you got dunked on that hard? You know, right? It was not a particularly good dunk, but it was a dunk attempt. I mean, I, I just mentioned it. It wasn't like, no, not so funny. I'm just like trying to do a bad bit. But it's all good. I appreciate it. I will say this. You are my guy. I love you dearly. You struted over here like Vince McMahon to share that with Grant. You didn't just happen to be, oh, by the way, if you get a chance to, you should check out a tweet I just put out. It was, hey, buddy, guess what I just did? And if you look at me and you came bounding over here. That's, that's incredible. Who's your guy? Both of you guys are my guy. I mean, I'd make Danny coffee almost every day. We do it. We share it. I know he made it for me. He made it for me. Ryan for coffee in a while. He made it for me today. So yeah. Absolutely. Let's stop it. You know, stop it. And you and I, you know, we make the pilgrimage to Northwest stadium every Sunday or most of us. And we got you down on the glass. You did. That's right. On the first class. You fog it up a little bit. You got a little steamy. Yeah. You got a little steamy. We had a great game. We went to Alex Ovechkin's wife and her hot Russian friends and yeah, it was great. Two goals from Ovi and like five minutes. Mm hmm. Fight right in front of us. Yeah. Who got into that fight that night? McIntire. Or a Mcall ref. Yeah. Mcall ref. Yeah. Mcall ref. Yeah. Mcall ref. Yeah. Mcall ref. Yeah. Mcall ref. Mcall ref. Yeah. Mcall ref. Mcall ref. Yeah. Mcall ref. Yeah. That's the opportunity of Russell's great. Yeah. But he knows a lot of the wrestlers. So like we're leaving the event coming out of coming up, pulling out of Capitol Arena. And we look over and he's like, I think that's is it. What's his first name? Drew Drew McIntire. Yeah. He's like, I think that's Drew McIntire and this dude had just been on stage in the ring, like cutting a massive promo, killed it, right? He killed it that night. And so I'm like, steamed up. I'm like, are you serious? That's him. He's like, I think so. And so he starts following him. It's 11.30 at night after Raw. We're in like random streets in DC, five minutes from Capitol One Arena. Not even. Just like following this car through these alleys and stuff, he's like flashing his lights. He's calling him on the phone. He's not answering. And he's like, this is definitely him. I'm sure of it. I'm like, this guy's six, five to 70. I'm petrified. So we finally pull up next to him at the light and we get like window to window up next to him. And the guy's looking over like he's mad and Lenny leans out and he's like, Hey, it's me. He's got an accent. He's like, Hey Lenny. Hey, you did. Legend. And I'm like, I was petrified, but we were just following this wrestler through DC and all these. Trust me, we're great friends. This is a peeling away. Yeah. He's not answering. He's on the phone with like his wife. He's like, I was calling you man. He's like, yeah, I'm on the phone with my wife. I didn't want to answer. I mean, these are all the things that happened behind the scenes and occasionally run into a good story. No, is that the same man as the street profits cameras at a different one? No, it's the same night. Yeah, because Grant has not. I don't think you've been back since then, right? You got to see the street profits. See if my. That's the street profit. Oh, yeah. It hasn't invited me since. I mean, kind of hard to go when I'm not invited. Wow. That's fair. I actually WWE apparently is taking away a lot of the wrestlers free tickets because they're making so much money and they're selling so many seats and the product is so hot. They don't want to give anything away for free anymore. So a lot of the wrestlers are pissed. So is that bad for us? Yeah. Although one of the legends got like a more of an inside source like he he he just showed up at WrestleMania. I'll fill it out. He's outing his sources. I'll just say. I mean, I mean, he just shows his name is no, he just showed up at WrestleMania on on Sunday night and just, you know, parked at the wrestlers hotel when which nobody could get into and he got a free room and he's having breakfast with the new day the next day and you know, all that stuff. Do you see the events documentary on Netflix? I can't remember how many it is, but you know, there's like a before the rise. All that stuff is incredible. Yeah. And then, you know, there's a lot of them. The carnage. Yeah. I haven't seen that part yet because, you know, football season kind of gets in the way. But anyway, maybe I'll watch that on Friday morning. Oh crap. You can't watch it right around six a.m. Exactly. Guy. What am I doing? What am I doing? What am I doing? And then I'm thinking about going out to Commander's practice in Ashburn just to do nothing. I'm sticking aside. You shouldn't do that. Skip that one. I mean, what do you do? You can't run yourself into the ground like this. I know. For no reason, by the way, I know what's the Friday theme, by the way, you know the Friday. Seven days a week. Why can't I? Well, I work from home in my basement to do my two hour show. It's it's 10 to noon, not six a.m. to 10 a.m. That's fair. I'm getting decent sleep and I don't get to go out to the park ever anymore. I mean, Dan Quinn only does press conferences when we're live on the air. Well, that would be the point is I never get to go to practice and I never get to go to open locker room. Some tough guy yesterday was like, why don't you guys ask him this? If you're interested. You're out there every day. I'm like, listen to Al. We're not help. No, we're not. And he only does press conferences when I'm talking into this microphone. I'm with you, brother. So with you. Practice for one o'clock. Bam. Talk to him on Sunday. At the stadium. You know, I mean, if they lose, I don't like to go down to the locker room because it's like a morgue. I can't help, you know, I can't help. Isn't that part of the gig? Yes. I mean, they've lost some games. When I had to, I had no choice. All right. When I have a choice, I grab a hot dog in the press box. Yeah. It's all good. It's dead. Yeah. What's the worst mood locker room you've ever been in? I know mine. What's yours? I was 10 years old. The playoff game in Tampa Bay, when they were on the verge of getting to the NFC Championship game, guys were like legit and tears. That was the Brad Johnson, Steven Davis, Nor will Eugene Turner, 99 Redskins, January of 2000. Such a, yeah. Be Mitch is an outlocker. I'm as a player. Final game. You ever played with the team? I don't remember like a, like one particular bad one after one, but two that jump out in my mind. You were there. I think this was your last year on the beat, 2013, week six, week seven, Thursday night game at the old Hubert H Humphrey Metrodome on a short week. Bad loss. They blew a big. Yeah. Shanahan's final year, Thursday night game, bad locker room situation. Everybody was fighting with each other. Me and Mitch Tischler were pushing each other and getting it right outside the locker room. It was, and the players were miserable. The other one, there was another short week, I think it was Green Bay week two, 2014, I want to say, or maybe it was that same year after they Robert all in for. Yeah, I guess it was 2013, Robert all in for week one. They got blasted on Monday night football short week at Green Bay was like snowing in mid September in Green Bay that morning, and they got their asses beat like 48, 21. And it was just misery, just misery because it was the realization that, yeah, oh, yeah, the carpet ride. It's broken. It was just misery. I've been anywhere near as many locker rooms as you guys, but nothing to me will top 2012 nationals. After the, uh, Daniel to scout, so Pete Cosma situation, they were, they, everyone was in there with all the plastic wrap up up on the locks. And nobody knew it. They're all looking around like, uh, Vincent Vega and Pulp Fiction, like, what do I do? Five guys are just sort of tearing it down themselves. And I mean, it was a funeral in there, several pitches to end that game with two strikes and two outs. Yeah, not good. Couldn't finish it. Not good. All right. Happy Thanksgiving, boys. Thanks, does any, you guys want to join me? We got to the bottom of it. Yeah, give me a ring. Don't start without me. I'll be right there. I'll come on. I'll come on. If you, if you want to talk, you want to start the show? Yeah, you want to, I'll, I'll got you at eight 40. You want, you want to preview your Saturday morning schwa right? We'd love that. Let's do it. I'll tell you what I'll, 10, 15. I'll jump on. Okay. Thanks Danny. Appreciate you. 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Lions 10 and one should very easily get to 11 and one in this game, but the bears are friskier because the last two weeks since they moved on from Shane Waldron, they gave Thomas Brown their plate going duties. McVay disciple from LA was in Carolina last year with Frank Reich got fired and blown out when they blew that staff up. He's now in Chicago. He and Caleb Williams have been working well together. Williams looks a lot better. Passing game is not fixed, but certainly on the mend. So four and seven Chicago might be able to hang with Detroit, but the lions are just so good man trying to get their 11th win. They can clinch a playoff spot if some things go well for them this weekend. So post the, the firing you're talking about after the low point of this year, which was a 19, three lost to New England. By the way, I say that again, a 19, three lost to New England, one of the worst performances we've seen in the sport this season by any team full stop. They've lost a one point game to the Packers. They should have won and they lost an overtime to Minnesota. So they've played a lot better arrows trending up. I know it sounds stupid for a four and 17, but the fact is the division is so good. It's any effort is too little too late entered Detroit who was playing better than everybody. They are boat racing people. So that's precious. That's cute. You're playing better. Now you're going to Detroit. And I think they're going to wax Chicago. I just love this lions team. They've scored 52 52 47 42 what happened in that 42 game in games this year, Jared golf is completing 73% of his passes, nine yards per attempt to lead the league. And he's got 20 touchdowns and nine interceptions on the season. Their running game is must watch. Jameer Gibbs averages six yards per carry like he's played in the big 12. David Montgomery is a Thumper 11 touchdowns on the year. He averages four and a half yards per carry. Gibbs and Montgomery, by the way, have combined for 21 rushing touchdowns. My guy, Amandra St. Brown, one of the most physical receivers in the league. They only have one receiver over 30 catches. And Sam LaPorta, who I thought would have a huge year has not. He's averaging 2.8 yards, 2.8 catches per game, which is crazy. But Amandra St. Brown, he carries the mail for them 71 for 759 touchdowns on his way to another Pro Bowl. And the defense keeps on getting better. I mean, Aaron Glenn was a coaching candidate this year interviewed. Remember with Washington, when Ben Johnson did, both of these coordinators could become head coaches. They've allowed six, six the last two weeks. They've allowed 15 or fewer points and four of their last five and five of their last seven. Yeah, I don't think this defense is good. Right. I don't think it's playoff good. That's interesting. I mean, they've been great the last few weeks, but when I keep coming back to us, they played well lately. So I don't know. I mean, to me, they're the same group that, you know, losing eight in Hutchinson, losing a black on the linebackers, then they lost a couple of weeks ago going, somehow, this is going to catch up with them, right? It's going to happen. But then I look up and I'm going, they've, they handled Green Bay, they handled Houston. They were dominant against a couple of bad offenses. Maybe they are better than I think. It's not just that the offense is humming and awesome and incredible. I sort of couldn't get that Vikings game out of my mind, right? When it was back and forth and back and forth and both of you should have won the game that they ended up coming out on top 31 29. I might need to update my file that this defense is actually playoff good enough. Yeah, that was a month. Oh, six weeks ago. Yeah. Giants, Cowboys, Dallas, coming off of a win in Washington at home, four and seven, and they're playing Tommy DeVito. Don't look now, but the Cowboys might get a chance to win two in a row. I should point out that DeVito's listed questionable. It's got a forearm injury. So Drew Lock got some first team reps to the last couple of days in practice, just as a precaution. I don't know if it matters really who the quarterback is for the Giants. You saw what happened to them this past week. They got obliterated 30 to seven by the Bucks. Look like a game where their defense kind of gave up as well. Meanwhile, Dallas, or whatever reason, still playing really, really hard for Mike McCarthy. I think the Cowboys actually win and they'll have won two in a row and they'll kind of be in the end of the hunt graphic for another week or so. So apologies if I was, if I'm wrong on this, I was, I was reading this though via the Elan's app. So who knows if I'm right or wrong here about this, but I was reading that Tommy DeVito is not traveling with the team. He's still going and he's still questionable, but he's traveling separate. What is everything's bizarre? Like maybe he had to have one extra doctor's appointment or something was going on with his form. Again, I remember reading that. I'm trying to find it just now while you were talking. So unconfirmed. I got this Giants listed quarterback Tommy DeVito questionable to play against the Cowboys. It's like doubtful might be more fitting. This is from pro football talk shortly after the Giants released the injury designations Wednesday, the team announced DeVito will not travel with the rest of the team to Dallas. He's going to get further evaluation on his forearm and then he'll, yeah, so he's going to come after, but that tells me that it's not looking. Yeah, it doesn't sound great, right? And for Dallas, what a weird situation winning the game last week sort of changed the eyeliner because you could have a couple of Ws in a row here without actually doing anything special. Right, you take advantage of a Washington team that couldn't be out of its own way. And now all of a sudden you've won a couple of games in a row, maybe validate your program a little bit. Who knows what they're trying to do here? But yeah, they're three and a half point favorites at home. I think this game will be close and competitive, but it will not be aesthetically pleasing or fun to watch. I agree with you. The first game is not going to be particularly competitive, but you'll see cool things. I think Caleb Williams will make some big plays and the offense of the Lions will be clinical as always, but it's not going to be entertaining because it'll be lopsided. So that means we really need the dolphins and packers to deliver. This is your third game. You have the 1230 NFC North matchup. You have the 430 NFC East matchup and then 820 tomorrow night Thanksgiving night window number three here, dolphins packers, Miami five and six, Green Bay eight and three. Miami has won three in a row over the Rams, Raiders and Patriots and they are Danny back in the playoff picture. Right. They've got to beat Green Bay tomorrow and then they're going to be just on the outside looking in with two games against the jets still coming. The match up with the 49ers on their schedule doesn't look as insurmountable. They've also got the Browns who they could absolutely beat and they play the Texans who just lost to the Titans. So the dolphins are not done and give to a credit. Yes. I have long thought that he is a product of that system and the weapons around him and I still believe to some extent that that is the case, but here is what we now know. Bad quarterbacks can operate that offense. I thought you plug in kind of any number that they'd be able to move the football. They were horrid without to with to a back and moving the rock by being accurate and using ball placement. Now they're getting Tyre Kill going again, Jill and Waddle going again. They're scoring points. They hung 34 on New England, 34 on Vegas and in their last two wins. So I give to a lot of credit. He's come back. He's played well. Meanwhile on the other side of things, the Packers run the ball, bro. That is a fun offense. They're physical. They pound you. Out of the by two and O against the Bears and Niners. They've scored 58 points the last two weeks. Jordan Love is one of the most high event quarterbacks in the league. Yes. A lot of big time throws, a lot of bad decisions as well, but this should be an entertaining football. Yeah, I'm with you. This is the game of the day. Do be a sauna, but I do. I do think so. It's contrasting styles. As you mentioned, Green Bay defense, I think is solid. If I'm spectacular, I think they're, they're good enough to slow down some bad offenses. Well, this is a good one. Now. They look really good at his Brandon Allen. I don't know what that gets you. I mean, they hung. It's 38 on and one by 28 against San Francisco this past week with Josh Jacobs going for a bill and three tuddies. They are physical. I mean, they, they play this. They're running game to your point. Looks like, I don't know, I'm trying to think of a great, a great analogy. It's like one of these great college football running games where every running play, they know, it's not just handed off. It's one guy fake, second guy fake, and the third guy gets it. Sometimes the second guy gets us. Sometimes the first guy gets it, but it's out of the pistol, then the next place out of the shotgun, the next place is drop back, but you touched on it. The way for Miami to win this game is to get a couple of those Jordan love turnovers, which he has been prone to do this year. Not as prolific as a lot of people thought with his MVP caliber finish to last year. So this is an interesting one. Green Bay needs to keep pace in a really, really good division and NFC and Miami's fighting for their playoff lives. Pick your winners straight up those three games Detroit, Dallas, Miami. I'll go with the home teams Detroit, Dallas, Green Bay in that order. I also love a home game at Lambo on Thanksgiving. I'm into it. You know what I mean? Like that could be an annual thing as far as I'm concerned. I'll be done with that. That's kind of fun. It was 17 years ago today that we tragically lost Sean Taylor. Want to go back to that day and some memories of that time. Also why he's so beloved and what was so unique and special about him. We'll do that next on Grant and Danny. Welcome back. Grant and Danny on the fan. It's a wizard's Wednesday. It's a wizard's tickets coming up at the top of the hour. Nobody talks more whiz than we do here on the fan and here on Grant and Danny. So we're fired up to give you those tickets. Ben standings going to join us in 13 minutes going to get you ready for the commanders and the Titans. I want to know if he thinks Brian Robinson's going to play. March on a lot of more is going to play. Both of those guys were limited in today's practice. Does not sound good for Austin Eckler going this week. And so far not ideal for Andrew Wiley, both in the concussion program, neither available to practice today. But I wanted to talk Danny about Sean Taylor's death, which was 17 years ago to the day. Hard to believe it's been that long. I remember where I was. I'm sure most of you do as well. At that time, what do you remember about tracking the news and waiting? Because if you remember, he got tragically shot in his home, trying to defend himself and invade home invasion took place and bad people were in his home and he got shot. It was supposed to have not killed him. It was a shot to the leg and ended up hitting an artery. We find out that he's doing better, supposedly, except that that wasn't the case, really. And there was some reporting that wasn't quite right and he ends up passing away. What do you remember about that time? The disbelief, right? Because you, I mean, none of us are doctors, but you hear about the injury and it's awful and terrible. But it's this, this is one of those you come back from, right? This is one of those you're going to be okay. It's going to take some time. You're shot in the leg was the report. Yeah. But okay, you're shot in the leg. That sucks. I hope you play again soon. Yeah. That stinks. I know you're hurt already and take your time, get back, but his life was really just beginning in that way. I don't mean to make light of this or like poke at this. Brian Robinson got shot in the leg and played in October. And I just bring that up to say like when you hear someone got shot in the leg that is not the same as getting shot in the stomach or the chest or that was the original report. Yeah. And you're going, again, that's awful, but he'll be fine. And then he's not. And then it's really not. And then you see that news and you're going, that's, that, that just can't be. That just can't be because to me, the arrow was going in the opposite direction. And like that, he's going as a, as a guy, you know, hadn't even turned 25 yet. And the best football of his career was ahead of him. The best parts of life were ahead of him certainly is a, as a dad and, you know, a guy that had really mature over the first couple of years here in Washington. Remember, he had his own set of run ins, like not, not terrible stuff, not like, you know, but anything horrendous, but like bouts of immaturity. And there was a time where Gibbs couldn't get in touch with him. If you remember, like surrounding the off season, it just different things were happening that weren't great. And then he started to really blossom, started to really mature before our eyes into this a superstar, gold jacket, caliber stud that was unlike anybody else in the football field. But just like the panoramic of his life was, was, was in the right direction. It was going great. And then all of a sudden that happened just so just impossible to believe. He intercepted a pass every four and a half games of his career. And he was such an amazing playmaker. You think about Ed Reed who played that center field safety position as well as anybody ever. He intercepted a pass throughout his career, roughly like every three or so games, right? Sean Taylor was essentially in that same zip code, just different. So what I tweeted earlier today and kind of how I feel about him is number one, I have never seen a football player that had that much size and speed in the same package. Still haven't. LaVora was close, LaVora Errington, who was the number two overall pick at a Penn State here. And by the way, there's a reason both of these guys went two and six respectively. But I've never seen a guy that was that big in that fast and it was intoxicating. It was captivating. Of course, he's going to be one of your favorite players because of how he plays and how physically is and how violent the collisions are. But just that frame, he wore huge shoulder pads too and he looked giant, but he ran like a corner. I loved how he taped up his face mask, I loved everything about Sean Taylor as a player. What I revered most about him though, was the physicality in a different era. So this will sound bad now, but he used to destroy receivers. He was the highlight of any knocked up segment you were going to do or jacked up, knocked up is different. You don't want that different, that's a different thing. It's a movie with Seth Rogen, but every jacked up segment that you would do, he was going to star in it, Danny, because he would just absolutely obliterate. Think about some of the guys that were petrified of him, Todd Pinkston with his alligator arms, Terry Glenn Patrick Creighton, Terry Glenn, Terrell Owens, you name a receiver in that era in the division. They didn't want to play Washington and you had to pay him to go across the middle. They weren't willing to do it. I loved watching him, but the whole thing was awful. I've told this before, but me and my best buddy at the time, who was a fellow Redskins fan, Steve, who was in the boot camp, he was in the army and I was like the guy sending them all of his sports info. Orioles one, four to two, Melvin Moore, I hit a two run homer, right? During that time, Sean Taylor gets shot and I got to tell him and I'm like, it sounds like it's going to be okay. Hey, supposedly last night he moved his hand, everything's trending in the right direction. And I remember the next one I had to send him was he died. He's going, these are like letters. I'm sending them the boot camp and it's just, I'll never forget like that part of it where, you know, he was getting these letters and I'm writing these recaps about our favorite player. You know, we got the Jersey. We're talking about him all the time. He is for people that weren't either old enough then or don't remember. It would be the equivalent like now in terms of fandom and stardom. You know, he is, he was as popular as Maclornis more so even honestly. Yeah. I mean, in real time, I think he was every bit or more beloved because that team, he'd already played in a playoff game. But my point is he was a fan favorite that everybody cared about. He was the number one guy on the team through all the fans eyes. When you think about the interceptions, the ranging center field that the two interception game against Brett Favre, what he probably could have four or five in a game on a sidelines. Yeah. Like he would make, I remember on a two play span, he broke up a pass and picked off a pass on each sideline. And I was like, I, I've never seen anything like this. You just don't have this. Yeah. But so someone who could do that, they make that super fast athletic center fielder. Right. There have been guys that can do that. Then you think of, you mentioned Patrick Creighton destroying that dude on that fourth down in the Monday night miracle, the best priest homes in the hole, getting picked up and thrown down and the ball flying, you know, the squirting free, just the, the, the combination. You can find someone that can do one of those things. You could, you could find a hard hitting linebacker. You could probably find a hard hitting safety. You can't find both in the same person. They just don't make that. They don't make so much to your point. And he didn't have the, like the, that super quick stride, like that, um, you know, like that, the coyote from Looney Tunes, he didn't have that kind of stride. He had these, that long gate just chewing up ground that he got the full speed quicker than you'd think for someone again at that size. It looked like a linebacker was just wandering around back there. He was so incredibly talented. And that year was the year he finally put everything together, because there were moments that people, I think correctly and fairly remember of maybe some over aggressiveness or some up and down inconsistency. The highlights were always there. The highlight reel spoke for itself. You can go to any YouTube page or any, you know, any historical footage and find some of the most incredible plays you're ever going to see at all the levels he played at. But there were moments where he'd been on that double move or was out of position trying to make that huge play. He's a young player. That last year, that was the year where you're going. He has arrived and he is now the perfect defensive football player. Well, they had not had a player before him that was an annual all pro in years and years, and they haven't had one since still. And he would have been that guy who every year would have been probably barring an injury or something, like in the conversation for first team all pro. The only other guy in the vicinity is Trent Williams, who never even got all pro when he was here, but it subsequently become that guy in San Francisco. But 17 years ago, man, I was 19 years old. How old were you? 17 years ago? 28. That's basically half half of my life ago, and that's hard to fathom too. But I also remember you want to talk about emotions. You were saying hardest locker rooms that bills locker room after they lost. I was in that locker room. That was as emotional as I've ever seen. They start the game with a breed Doudy on the sideline, missing man formation, missing man, you know, 10 men on the field that Gibbs is called the two time outs in that game on accident. It lose. And then they have four straight wins after that to make the playoffs because of that locker room coming together around Sean Taylor. I remember that week at the park, I wasn't out there, but I've been told the stories of the grown men, the players coming out and addressing the media and just fallen, you know, so as you'd expect, I mean, this was their brother. But the city will never be the same as a sports town. And that will always be one of those line in the sand kind of where were your moments when you found out that news about such an amazing player and kind of a son of DC in that way, athletically, a grant and Danny on the fin top of the hour. We got tickets to give away for wizards, fans. 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