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Christopher Pozzo's on the show at five CBS Sports, wrote a piece on the regression of Jaden Daniels, Dovin on the numbers to figure out what's wrong with the quarterback taking a step back. And Mateo Dunn joins us at 5.30. He is a school board member in Fairfax County. The decision was made yesterday by the principal at Hayfield to pull the team from the playoffs. Why now? How did this get so bungled and handled so badly? We'll talk to a member of the school board in Fairfax about the situation that swept the DMV coming up at 5.30 on the fan. Daniel, you look good and refreshed. Yeah. Bring your brooms because it's a mess. That's where we're at with this hayfield situation. Oh, buddy. I can't wait. My barometer for have had things crossed over for matters of sport to everyday life. I passed by three different pockets of conversation this morning at school drop off about the hayfield situation. Parents that don't care about sports, parents that do, everyone in between had an opinion, a thought, a question, something to raise. I'm telling you, it's everywhere. It's Tuesday, which means it's time for Grant and Danny's commander survivor. Every single week on this show on Tuesdays throughout the football season, you vote at facebook.com/grant and Danny, you can go vote right now. You kick one player off the island. You give one player immunity beyond the next game. We are whittling the roster down to just a half dozen players left for the commanders when the dust settles today. Danny, who is left and who can people vote on to send home or to give immunity to today? Three on offense, three on defense quarterback, Jayden Daniels. You might have heard of him, probably not his best overall game. Statistically ended up with pretty good numbers, a couple of touchdowns, a Hail Mary pick there at the end, but you know, watching the game, I think maybe tells a different story. Austin Echler, who left the game towards the end, again, with injury, really, really scary. He won't be joining us today, obviously wishing him well, won his recovery to be to be speedy, but you know, wasn't, I don't think had his best statistical outcome. Terry McClellan, who other than the 86 yarder was four catches for 16 yards, but he had the 86 yarder. Bobbie Wagner, Frankie Luevo, who is immune this week and Jeremy Chin, they're on defense. So Frankie Luevo is on to the next. He will be one of the five finalists in commander survivor in 2024. Otherwise, you could kick anybody off the island and you can give anybody immunity. I think Jayden Daniels, while it wasn't a great game, should probably be safe, right? Luevo, Chin, McClellan, you know, there's some names on that list of guys who balled out and played really, really well. So it's getting tight now at this point. You did bring up Austin Echler and I do want to just say he will not be with us today. We will probably not catch up with him this week. Of course, he suffered what appeared to be a very serious concussion at the end of the game against Dallas on the final kick return. He gets slammed into the ground, lands on his head, and he was motionless on the field very, very scary scene. This is the part of football and the part of sports that is toughest. Now we talk about enjoying covering sport and you and I have in this game called a radio show and a job, right, this gig where we come in here and we just, we talk about grownups playing kids games. And it's pretty cool because we don't have to talk about serious stuff that really matters a whole lot in the grand scheme of the world. This is one of those avenues where it gets scary and we are thinking about Austin. Hopefully he will be on the show early next week when he's feeling better and hopefully he and his wife and family have a great Thanksgiving. So thoughts are with him without him continues to recover. It's the, it's the human element, right? Cause it's very easy that you sort of are able to distance yourself from things as these guys are all wearing uniforms and pads and helmets and it's, you're just somebody that's up there. But when something like that happens, you're like, Oh yeah, there's a human being in there, right? There's a, there's a person with a family and loved ones. And all that other kind of stuff and you know, it's, it's very easy to watch the spectacle because that's what it is. It's, it's their modern day gladiators, you know, without the lions and things that you're seeing in the movie gladiator gladiator too. But that's what it is. It's for our incredible joy and amusement that the athletic feats that these guys put on, the amount of physicality just incomprehensible to regular folks. And then what's something like that happens, you're like, Oh yeah, they're, they're vulnerable, living, breathing human beings with, you know, full 360 degree lives that like that, things can change. You're watching the Lamar Hamlin incident, Echler motionless on the field. It just, it takes your breath away because you're reminded, Oh yeah, there's a more talented in this. There's a, there, there's, there's, there's fragile as anybody else without belittling other injuries, whether that be, you know, an ACL or an Achilles or any of these other things that you see players suffer that are career altering, awful setbacks where they've got to now go rehab and anonymity with nobody watching them for a year. There is just something different about the brain, I would say in terms of, like if a guy hurts their leg and they get carted off when their thumbs in the air and they're telling everyone I'll be back or even at the end of their career, if they're not going to return and play again after that, that's sad and that's terrible. But that's one of those things that heals, whether you get back to a hundred percent, you're as quick and twitchy and explosive as you once were or not, eventually that's not going to be a problem. It's not going to be something that lingers into the future. There is a real fear and an anxiety correctly about brain trauma in the sport. So when you see a guy who suffered a concussion against the bangles, suffer the concussion he did against the cowboys and I'm not a doctor, I can't tell you this one was worse. I just know that the optics were worse. This was not, you went down and you were a little jarred and you kind of walked to the sideline and he told us after, started feeling things a couple of minutes after. This was, he's not moving and immediately all the players are calling to the training staff because he is laying lifeless moments. It said, oh no. Right. That's petrifying. We've seen it with two, we've seen it with other guys. That will never be an okay element of football. It is the worst part of the game that we all love and so many of us, I'll speak for myself, are addicted to. It is an addiction. It is, you know, outside of my family, probably the thing I like most in life is getting to watch football and it's the worst part of it. Yeah. I think that's well said. It's the, you know, when you have to tear down that barrier or that wall, right, where these invincible supermen do so much and then it's, oh yeah, that's right. There's that, there's that really scary element that they're able to compartmentalize and put out of their minds because as soon as he's off the field, it's like, okay, here we go. Line them up again. Let's play the next play time. Just really, really hard to get in that headspace. What time do we want to do the annual Thanksgiving day food draft tomorrow? I think it's important that we pick a time right now and we let our listening audience know when they need to be listening to hear us moving and shaking, navigating the board, Clarion, dearest, trying to get their hands on the sides they want tomorrow. Four of us, four rounds, Thanksgiving day food draft, I'm thinking three o'clock right on the nose square number three works for me, but does anybody have any issues? Is there something I don't know about conflict, docket tomorrow that will prohibit us from doing that? Darris, when should people tune in for the Thanksgiving day draft? I think three o'clock is is prime time for us. I think that works out. Let's do it. So that means by 303, clary will have taken gravy number one overall for like the third straight year. I was thinking green bean casserole. He was going to switch it up this year. That's at least what the rumors are out there on the Twitter verse. Do you guys have a game plan yet or is that something you plan on preparing tonight? Like, do you know right now if you had to do a draft, would you feel good about it? I could do it. You have to sit down with your scouts and see what the 40 times were on some of the options. We'll do our final prep because you want to be prepared with an A scenario, a B scenario and then kind of, you know, free for all. Like, if somebody goes rogue and goes unpredicted, like, I've got a few for the other teams around me. Yeah. Depends on what, because I also don't know where I'm picking yet. We can't. It's the last entry and I've got my own reports I've written up on various food items. But we have not put our board together. So our, our tradition on my team is that the night before the draft, we sit down and we kind of argue, you know, no, everybody knows. We get a hotel that night. We're not going home tonight. Okay. Eventually, you're going and you're crashing on a hotel bed near the facility, but the board will be assembled after a bunch of arguing at the end of tonight and then we'll be ready for tomorrow for the most important day in show calendar, the Grant and Danny Thanksgiving day food draft. Now, now do you color code it to identify who's a commander and who's not? Oh, I do. Yeah. So what you're thinking of is the commander tag. We call that the Paulson tag. Got it. And there are only a couple foods that get the Paulson tag every single year and they're the same foods. So if you guys have been paying attention, you'll, you'll know those foods here. There's not a whole lot of secrets on my draft board. You know what I'm coming for. You know what I want. I don't want nothing's changed here. Every year. That's the one problem is we're drafting the same players. You know what I mean? Yeah, I do. And I'm starting to learn your proclivity. Sure. Like for, it's the equivalent of, are you, are you a big 10 lineman? I'm probably interested. Right. You know what I mean? Like, are you an SEC wide out? I'm probably interested. This GM's got a thing. He really likes undersized linebackers. Uh huh. You know, he's twitchy, who he likes to move off the ball, you know, uh, Clary, you have been the guy that has upset the apple card, I'd say most in these drafts the last few years. Very controversial decision. Do you plan on possibly playing it a little more straight tomorrow or is all hell going to break loose? I mean, in my opinion, I don't think all hell broke loose in the recent drafts. I do think we built like a really kind of solid foundation up front. And I think this year could be the year we're really kind of moving around the board a little bit and make some splash moves. So we're going to be interested in some trades. And that is a report coming directly from the guy who makes the picks. I am open for business. Wow. Wow. Open your business. He's looking for a deal. I know a guy, depending on the pick you go, who might come calling see, I might come calling you. Yeah. So open for business clarity for business. Adam Schefter, when the source is right here, yeah, it just goes on the radio and tells he's Jerry Jones over there. I don't need to be texting right now. He just gave away the business. Jerry Jones went on 105 three or whatever that station is in Dallas and said we're willing to trade our picks. So we're going to give him away. If you want to come steal from us, that's fine because I'm not competent. So give us a call. Cannot wait for tomorrow. What I thought. Cleary was getting at there. He's going full nats on us. So yeah, we've established a nice foundation. We've made some deals. We've got some kids, but we're not winning yet. This is the year where we start to invest some funds. Oh, wait, I'm being told. Hold on. Even players in the Juan Soto sweepstakes. You see this today? Yeah, of course. Soto has met with several ball clubs. He has received offers by way of multiple reports now from five different teams. Those teams are stopping when you hear nationals. Okay, here we go. I'll stop here. You're listening for nationals. These are the teams that have made Juan Soto an offer. Soto, by the way, who is said, he loved to play in DC, loves it here, best performance of his career right here in the nation's Capitol. You'd stand a reason you want to get in on those sweepstakes. You have zero payroll. You know, the highest paid national is on their payroll for this year? Luis Garcia making five million dollars. You know, the second highest paid national in their payroll is this year? I'll tell you. Just listen. Kaiber Ruiz. Here we go. Making five million dollars. They're not paying anyone. If they want to, they can go get Juan Soto now they don't want to and we knew all along. They weren't going to get one. So don't we've tried to let everybody know that was not going to happen, but five teams are at least pretending to be in on Juan Soto by putting up their panels. He's pretending. Here are the teams. The Mets. Yeah. You knew that. Right? The Yankees. The Red Sox. He's going to say nationals in the second. I know he is. The Blue Jays. Okay. One more. It is a national league team. Oh. So here you go. The they did play in that Nat's Dodgers division series in 2019. One played in that series. Yeah. Yeah. The Dodgers. The Yankees. Red Sox. Blue Jays. Dodgers. Now, here's the thing. There's 25 teams that aren't raising the paddles because they know it's unrealistic. They know it's probably doesn't make a lot of sense in terms of team building to pay somebody that much money. They get what you can start doing that with every person that plays major league baseball if they cost more than 17 cents. Are they in on anybody and the answer is no, that'll be the big question. No, they're not. But look, it's football season, we're coming up on Thanksgiving, Washington's got a seven and five team that could be playoff bound. So the nats are getting a little pass on that, but I will just say as an aside that it is absolutely time for them to spend some money as an ownership group. And if they don't fans, and that means you guys should be irate because to my knowledge, they're not lower in season ticket prices. It's not a cheap ticket to get. It's not easy to go navigate Nat's park, right? The baseball operation staff led by Mike Rizzo. And this is Mark Shalaba and Mike the Bartilow and that whole crew of guys that run that outfit. They have saved ownership's bacon with trade driven efficiency in the rebuild. They're in a really good spot, actually, if they were to actually supplement with some star major league decent talent now, they're going to be interesting and middling as of right now, just based on the young core that they put together. But if they want to be good and competitive, they're three or four additions away probably. And that's where ownership has to come in. And the payroll with Luis Garcia and Cabaret or wheez is your highest paid players at this point is the tell. There's nobody on the payroll that they look like the Marlins are the A's Danny when you look up who they're paying. I mean, seriously, it's like Miami Oakland, Washington. That's what it looks like. Yep. So the last few years of the rebuild, I'm on board. There's no reason to spend big. You're not blocking kids. You got to see who's good and who isn't. You got to give opportunities to your youngsters as they graduate. It's now time to do that. And if they don't, that's fans, sports fans, people in this city should absolutely be livid. And frankly, the media needs to start. I'd say beating the drums and sounding the bugles a little bit because if there's no pressure, if it's just this big, well, whatever, you know, it's okay that, you know, they have a payroll of 40 million and they'll go out and they'll win 73 games. It's not okay. No, in the nation's capital. No. And I understand how we got here. It's a lot of bad luck. A lot of things that's nobody's fault, right? Global pandemic happens the year after we win the World Series. That's that changed things. There should have been a huge cash influx. The TV deal isn't necessarily anybody's fault. I understand how we got here, but my point is we are here. Nobody's saying you've got to do with the Red Sox and the Yankees and the Dodgers do, which is printing your own money and go crazy. What everyone I think is saying, I don't put words in your mouth, but what I'm saying is when you move on from California again, after not trading him, you just give him his walking papers, you could have got something back that's a human being that's someone with a pulse. Maybe it may be a shot at someone. If you're moving on from him because he's too expensive, you're going to get in and you're not going to fill that void, like all you're doing is being cheap. There's no longer a this is there's a strategy behind it or whatever. Any type of move that's made simply to not pay somebody not has nothing to do with big good, bad or indifferent. If the move is we can't afford Tanner Rainey. We were patient with that guy for a rebuilding team for years for potentially the season where he finally comes back removed from Tommy John, et cetera, to be good. And he's gone because he might cost $1.7 million on our arbitration. What are we doing? On Finnegan, by the way, I think this is an important thing to hit Kyle Finnegan is now a free agent. He'll be leaving Washington very likely unless they get him back, I guess, on a cheaper deal than they would have paid him. He was not set to be a free agent. This is very different arbitration. If a guy is contracts ending and he's leaving in free agency, that happens. They opted to let him become a free agent by non-tendering him instead of paying him for another year on his contract because he was set to make upwards of, say, eight and a half, nine million dollars and they probably view him more as a seven or seven and a half million dollar player. And from a baseball perspective, they are right. The counting stats, 38 saves last year, don't really match the underlying number. They went entitled, that went entitled into a pay raise and if their point is, that's an overpay. I have no agree, by the way, but I don't think it's crazy, but they're doing the nat's math of, well, we got to spend $12 million this year. So let's hurry up nine million from Finnegan and now you're only really paying $3 million. That's nat's math. The math should be, is Finnegan a helpful good reliever? And who cares if you're overpaying him by 1.5 or 2 million? And if the Braves are some winning team that has a real payroll and has actual money being spent on players, did what the nat's are doing with Kyle Finnegan, I would say that's really smart. That team gets it. I like that data driven approach because they know he's not quite worth it. But when the nat's do it and you're paying no one and then you say, oh, this guy at nine million, probably two million more than we think he's actually worth, no, we'll save that two million and we just won't pay him at all and we'll let him hit free agency and reallocate the money. Forgive my skepticism. I'm not really sure if you're reallocate the money. Again, baseball wise, that's Rizzo in his group looking at this saying this guy is not worth nine million. They're not wrong. But if it matters that much to maybe be right on $2 million when you're. When you're zero outside of him, we got problems here. Right. Yeah. And you might disagree with this. I think that's fine. But I need an organization to know, hey, we don't think he's worth what he's going to get next year in arbitration or we don't want to have the pay increase. There's a trade deadline. I know commanding teams aren't going to go. He's worth, you know, I don't know, our top, our third best prospect in the org. And here's a trade package that you would get for Juan Soto or for trade Turner or somebody that's legit. I understand that. They don't have a stake about it. They botched it. They absolutely should have traded them in July. They screwed that up. And that's kind of my point here. So if the, if the baseball folks had any kind of communication with, with the ownership staff going, Hey, this might cost us a little bit more, but he's a good guy to have. All he's ever done is the right thing here. He's, he's consistent. He answered the bell every day. The metrics aren't probably worth what he's going to command, but that's, there's worth having somebody that's done the right thing is the organization, uh, reward someone at the end. And if ownership goes, you know what? It's probably too rich for our blood. We could better allocate elsewhere. Now I know that. And I can do a baseball move where I can trade this person. For something else. I have no problem. Instead, they have nothing and they're going to fill it with nothing. Correct. That's everything about that's wrong. I'm so upset about it. All I wanted to do for days is scream about it. Yeah. And I'm glad that we are. Uh, also it makes me worry that the communication from ownership to the front office either wasn't there at the deadline or has shifted, but maybe they didn't know in July that they were going to have so little to spend. And now they need the nine million that you free up with Finnegan so that you can spend elsewhere because you're not getting what you thought you would get. I mean, these are all my own theories. I don't know that I can, uh, back any of them up, but what I know is it's been a long time since they've spent any real money. That's what I know. And that they're in a pretty good spot because they've got a savvy front office that's made a bunch of really good trades. If not for that, they'd be one of the Drex of Major League Baseball and it is time to open up that checkbook and to spend some money this off season. Next up, let's get to the commanders. What is the biggest reason for their three game skid? They've gone from seven and two to seven and five. 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You know, it's always been about, you know, proving the head of wrong, you know, it's okay. You know, we know we've been playing like we know we've been playing bad, you know, bad ball. And you know, we know how to play good ball, you know, so it's all about, you know, doing that, you know, simply like that. Running back Brian Robinson, as heard on the junkies earlier today, right here on 1067, the fan. Welcome back to Grant and Danny. Commanders back to being able to put their backs against the wall and kind of play the card of them against the world. Nobody's believing in them. You can't do that when you're seven and two and your quarterbacks and MVP candidate. But after three straight losses at seven and five and now with folks jumping off of the bandwagon, as far as them headed to the playoffs, here Robinson suggesting they were back where we started. We're comfortable here, Danny. What's the biggest reason for them having lost three straight? That is the question we will open up the MGM National Harbor listener lines for you guys to answer that question at 800-636-1067 right now. Lack of talent. I actually think that's true on both sides of the ball, but to me, scheme will get you so far. In other words, the, the design of a schemer or the, the plan of a schemer is to basically go, I'm going to get Grant Paulson one on one with somebody. That's the best you can hope for reasonably. Sometimes you get somebody unblocked. Sometimes you get someone running free and when that happens, that's great. That's great design, great everything. But eventually you have to win. And as teams get tape on you, as other coaches and other programs, figure out what your tendencies are, what you do, and what you don't, there's got to be a time when your guy can beat their guy and that has run out. Their second best receiver was cut by a competitive team. That's where we are in terms of the secondary. They got a guy that was drafted to be a slot corner that's been their best corner all season long playing on the outside. Nothing wrong with Mike Sandristo, by the way, I love the kid, but he's going to be a great player for a long time. It's really good. The design was to have him be your number three, right? Your slot corner. And he's been basically their ace. Now, hopefully a lot of more comes and helps everything and everybody kind of slots down more in a more appropriate place, but they lack elite pass rush, they lack dominance on the defensive line. They're probably not unbelievable at safety. Like to me, they're under talented and scheme has covered for a lot of it. And now that you get in some adverse situations, which is going to happen in football, you lose some of the turnover luck that you've had, you know, the adversity strikes on your third and nines, your guys can't win. People play man against you. You can't separate. You punt. That to me is what's happened. The lack of talent in a lot of spots. And I understand it's you're one of this rebuild for trying to turn over the roster. Usually what happens is what happened around Rivera. You're pretty much garbage in the first year after the old regime when you're cleaning stuff out here, this clean out has got them into a playoff race. I'm not complaining. Just simply observing. When you leave a hundred million dollar cap space on the table, when you're not signing guys long term, when you're not trying to transform everything overnight, things don't transform overnight. Usually I do this degree. So it's more of an observation as to where they are, but I think it's finally caught up with it. And they didn't really have 12 win talent. And they were on their way to 12 wins and a regressions happening. But that doesn't explain away why they couldn't finish when they were up 10 against Pittsburgh. Or why when they had a chance to take the lead in the fourth quarter against the Eagles, the game went the way that it did or why you have a letdown game because they got plenty of talent as it pertains to beaten Dallas, right? I mean, individually, like that makes sense when you're in the hot air balloon looking down at their season from several thousand feet up. But that doesn't work for me game by game and game by game, how we actually got here with the three straight losses to me. This is that there's a bevy of issues. You could make a list of probably 10 to 15. The biggest one for me when I look at all the numbers is third down on offense. I think on offense, they have a third down problem right now. If you compare their three game losing streak to the Cincinnati game, when Jaden Daniels was the best he's been all season long, it's a pretty substantial juxtaposition, right? In the Cincinnati game, they averaged third and 4.3 over the duration of the game. In the last three games, they've averaged on third down needing 7.3, 6.3 and six yards. At least a two to three yard difference. That is massive against the Bengals in that game where Daniels was amazing. They had two plays of third and seven or more in the Steelers game. They had eight plays of third or seven and more. They had seven plays of third or nine and more. They didn't have a single one of those against the Bengals, zero plays, third and nine plus. They have had seven, two and three of those, so a total of 12 in this three game losing streak. The issue, I think, largely is a lack of efficiency on early downs. They're not ahead of the chains. They are in second and long too often. In fact, I saw a piece in the Washington Post suggested that they average second and 8.1 this past week against the Cowboys, which was second worst on second down for what they needed to get all season. That same piece cited a stat on third and long that Sam Fortier wrote, converted third and long opportunities. Their rate up until the three game losing streak was 36 percent, which would have been the best in the NFL in the last two plus years. The last three games there at 11 percent. So they've fallen off by almost a quarter of what they were doing earlier. And this would be worst in football. So they've gone from the best on third and long in the NFL over two plus years to the worst. The truth eventually will be in the middle, but this is the correction that we all knew was coming. You can't convert 36 percent of third and longs. That's not going to happen. And when you start not doing that, you start punting, which they weren't doing, the no pun offense, 17 punts in their first eight games, 17 punts in their last three games. So I think Danny, the biggest problem is on first down, they're not winning enough. Second down has not gotten them to third and short. And that bangles game. Do you know that their first four third downs were third and one? I remember they felt short. I didn't know they were all third and one. Third and one. Like, do you know how easy it is to operate offensively if you're constantly in third and one? That was the team first half of the year is they're doing that incessantly and they're not anymore. So that's, that's documented. That's correct. That's in arguable. And the guess where you and I differ is why that's happening. I think everyone's on to the scheme. I think everyone's on to. Why do we differ? Well, I think it's, I think it's a talent problem. Like, now I don't have, I said I disagree with that. Well, when everybody, that's, that's how I, that's how you started your silhouette. But either way, to me, the word is out. It's been solved. There's no wrinkle. There's no counter punch. There's no different, you know, set a bag of tricks here consistently to get teams off of what they're doing. Dallas can Cox a great pass rush and Washington has no idea what to do about it because their scheme says, X, we chip the edges and this is how we chip the edges where they go, fine, we're not going to have any edges. We're not going to bother with that. We don't care. There's no answer to it. I think that's, that's a theme of what's going on here. And to me, it comes down to the guys, the lines where we're going, these guys are amazing. They're way outperforming. They're now getting mauled and pushed around. Now you go up against good players, Jalen Carter had a week, had a month last week against Washington. Pittsburgh's had a bunch of guys that are outstanding up front too. So okay, maybe it's that one out Dallas is a bunch of bombs that are looking to quit that threw you around to and you go, oh, okay, maybe one on one. We're not good enough anymore. And everybody's kind of on to it and they're getting almost getting a head start with what you want to run and how you want to run it. So they're behind the sticks constantly. It feels like, yeah, I agree with you on the talent at certain positions for sure. The areas where it was pretty obvious in the off season, you know, where we're not breaking any news to say when you're starting a wide receiver, that was the number five in Houston probably need some help there, right? I don't think the O line is nearly as bad as everybody thought coming into the year. And I would point to kind of how this year is gone as evidence of that, but they are on my list right now, just because they're so banged up, like we can say, oh, they didn't play well enough against the Cowboys and you're out there just like Jaden Daniels, right? We can make the excuse of the river or not, but there's an expectation when you play that you can help. Yeah. Tyler Biotich has come on and off the field and I've watched him on two or three straight home games go back to the locker room for treatment while the defense is on the field. I don't know what's going on with him, but he's not 100% healthy like he was early in the year. Andrew Wiley missed games missed another couple of quarters this past week, replaced with Trent Scott. They haven't had Cornelius Lucas. It was a bit starting left tackle at the beginning of the year, big part of the rotation. So you're talking about multiple tackles and your center being on and off the field. Allegretti has been kind of in and out a couple of different times this year. So I do think they are banged up on the O line for sure. And the other thing is, while we're talking about maybe a lack of talent or execution or whatever with past catchers, they're dropping more passes. They did not really drop passes early in the year through their eighth game. They had three drops over the last month. They've got 10 drops. That's according to PFF. But if you watch the game, you feel like it's probably even more than that. It feels like more than 10. That's just the statistical like receiver friendly version of how they grade drops. But that's a big deal and they were not dropping anything early on. That was coming again. There's just going to be a correction. There's going to be a regression to the mean, but they've gone even beyond that. It's like, you know, three or four drops here or there you're, you're banking on when it's six. Right. When it's three times that. Yeah. Maybe settle down. It's anything would turn over lock. They had incredible fortune. And now some of that's run out where they're turning over at three times the way they were record setting for God's six through nine weeks with a rookie quarterback. It doesn't happen with veteran quarterbacks, let alone a rookie. A lot of what was happening was unsustainable and we knew that and the correction has come loudly. 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Danny says, lack of talent, I'm drilling down even deeper in game. I think they are not operating well enough on early downs and it's third and long too often. And that sets you up for failure. And they were kind of playing with fire early in the season and getting by like they're just inevitable. You can't eat fast food every day and not gain weight. If you keep doing that, eventually you'll be an age where you're going to gain weight and they got there. Let's go to Elijah in DC. What's up Elijah? Hey buddy. What's going on fellas? I'm trying to hit the nail on the head of this first down thing, it's a big deal. And I think they have to get this first down worked out. I think the system requires Jayden Daniels to be dynamic on every play, which I think it itself isn't necessarily sustainable, not that he isn't dynamic, but it just puts at a situation where he's going to have to do a lot. So that drives when they did an excellent job and it was basically because he was moving his leg, which is cool. But it seems like defenders, especially at the linebacker position, have changed their angle of pursuit on him for just trying to get to the sideline versus darting straight at him. You see he does a little spin and he gets down. They've noticed that if you give him room, he's different than Lamar Jackson. You don't want to run at Lamar the same way. When you run at Lamar, he responds differently, you know. So I just think it's a few things that first down has to be worked out and it has to get more creative with moving 17 around. I love that. I appreciate it. He said something that jumped to me and reminded me of something. It's hard to quantify this, but it does feel like I know it's not the same scheme, same everything, but just bear with me. It feels like early season bears where you're basically going, all right, Caleb, do something incredible, buddy. We got some players for you, but it's up to you really. It's felt like that a little bit lately. And when you play good defense, you can't really get away with that for four quarters. Now, the Dallas one, I can't quite explain, but that's kind of been my feeling of late where I think of course said it best when that first down run, that's not J. Nannals's fault that it goes for one yard, but now you're kind of going, all right, dude, be super man. And that's not a fair ask anybody. So I'm looking at the first five third downs of the game this past week against Dallas, third and 12, third and seven, third and two, third and seven, third and nine. Four of them seven or more. Yeah. Two of them nine or more. One is how to make sure you don't sustain drives for 500, Alex, right? I mean, that you just, you can't live that way. Chris Oxen Hill. What's up? You're on Grant and Danny. Hey, I was going to follow this, but I'm going to call it a day. I feel like I kind of agree with you, Grant, where it's like, you know, I think that the office isn't jealous right now. I feel like really honestly that they're not a hundred percent, especially I don't think that Jayden has recovered fully from that Panthers game with the rear injury. So Chris, how do you say that and watch him run for 75, his third highest total this past week. He was every bit as explosive to me. He looked like the same guy from the Bucks game on Sunday against Dallas. Well, the reason why I kind of feel that way is because I feel like he hasn't been as explosive as he was prior to when we were on that, uh, that nice, uh, seven game, you know, uh, when total, even this weekend, you didn't think so. I thought he was back to that this weekend. You didn't. Well, this weekend, I would say, I don't, if I had the grade on the scale of one to 10, I would say he was at least about a 7.5 because I felt like there were some things that the office didn't do that they have done in the past that look good. For example, Noah Brown, like you mentioned, Noah Brown has been passing a lot of, uh, balls and the thing is that he's normally pretty good with his hands. So that's one aspect that I kind of go towards where I don't put all of the blame on Jayden. So if it's kind of like I'm trying to blame Jayden, no, that's not what I'm trying to do. But he, you know, I didn't take it that way. Appreciate. Yeah. So there's, there's differences between how he played versus how he looked physically. That's what Grant and I were talking about. I think I don't want to put words in your mouth, but to me, the, the, the, I kept saying the same thing over and over the last couple of weeks. So I'm like, he just doesn't look explosive, twitchy, quick, you know, gliding around the way he did early in the season. I thought he did this past Sunday. I think, I think that's now more conventional. That's kind of, I think a lot of folks fill that way. I 100% agree. He looked more twitchy than he had, but I don't think the rib was as big an issue from a passing standpoint over the last few weeks. It's part of why he was in the pocket more, I think, and we saw that like he looked different more explosive. He ran seven for 74 this past week, but I don't think it really affected him as a passer. And my bigger issue, frankly, has been that part of it over the last few weeks. Not that he has been bad, but the passing game has been bad. He's obviously a part of that. Let's go to Nate in DC. What's up, Nate? Hey, how's it going, guys? Good. Good. Good. I think this little scare, for one, I think we were lucky to only have lost five games as far. We had the luck of Paul, some very, no, no more simplistic defenses, but recently, I think the team has had the unfortunate opportunity to play some of the top NFL defenses. This was Jayden Daniels' first look at them. It was the entire team's first time playing against these type of defenses and coaches like Tomlin. And then Jayden and company got the opportunity to be able to witness one of the most intense rivalries in sports, even though as commanders and slash res kids, we've been on the losing end of that rivalry for much of the last 25 years. He was thrust into some very unfortunate situations and don't look bad, but the Tennessee Titans have a very tough defense. Yeah, they're top five. Yeah, they can play. I don't think there's anything about Washington and Dallas at this point that feels different when the game starts as a player. I don't think those guys, it's they're not seeing that navy blue and the Cowboys and going, man, we got to win this game and they're not playing differently or harder. There's not any more animists. You know, they've had chippier games this year, couple of times over. So I don't think it was like, man, he wasn't ready for the rivalry or something. I don't think that is tangible or necessarily a real thing. People want to weigh in so we can take your calls on this. That's the biggest reason for the three game losing streak, 806361067. Also, Jaden Daniels has a tendency when it comes to where he throws the ball on the field. And I think that that is particularly important based on where Cliff Kingsbury lines up Terry MacLaurin. So I looked some of this up last night. I think this date is really interesting. I think you guys will want to hear this. We'll get to that next right here on the fan. 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Like, I was good in 2012 on that. I've never been more sure about anything coming in here than that you were completely set. Did you guys know that they were brothers? Has anyone heard that? I get it. It is again. It's remarkable. Danny. It's remarkable. Two people. And I'm acting like it's complete coincidence, right? I mean, there's such a thing as connections and sure, whatever. But from the same family, have two of the 32 head coaching jobs in the National Football League. And last night, they're going head to head for the third time ever. It's pretty cool. It is. It's amazing. The odds are a trillion to one, probably more than that, probably 10 trillion to one. It is remarkable. But it's amazing. I'm also all set on the story. I'm good on it. What's more what people should be doing every day is maybe two of the, I don't know, top my head, two of the 15 best past rushers ever to live our brothers go up with the same household and then the other guys will fall back. Like the, like the white family to me is a billion times more interesting than, you know, Mr. like, I'm going to attack this cereal with, with a passion of a thousand burning sons. Harbaugh. You know what I mean? Like, just, I don't know. The Watts are awesome too. Yeah. I'll do what stuff yesterday, the Manning cast was two brothers interviewing two brothers. They had Owen and Luke Wilson on about two brothers coaching. And I thought that was genius from whoever did that at Omaha production, but Owen and Luke Wilson. Oh, wow. Oh, well, we're on the Manning cast to talk about the Harbaugh. Well, Rich, do you? Which I just thought was great. Washington's continuing to build the foundation of success on and off the field this season. It's time for you to plan for your future as well. The sponsor of our show, the law firm, Canorian Marad, will help update your last willing testament. Set up a trust for you and your family schedule a free consultation with our estate planning attorneys today. Km lawyers.com. Be sure to tell them G and D sent you. That's K M lawyers dot com. So I will share this data that I looked up yesterday and then I want to get to the calls on this. I actually want to give Craig Hoffman credit for this because this is something we were talking in the press box about and then he kind of gave me the idea I saw he was diving into where on the field, maybe Jaden Daniels liked to throw, but I looked up the heat map last night via you could do with, uh, I use PFF, but I'm sure next gen stats has it as well. And I just wanted to know when Jaden Daniels throws the ball, where does he like to throw the ball? Jaden Daniels on throws at the line of scrimmage to 20 yards downfield based on the math I did on his throws via PFF when throwing horizontally out wide. Okay. Right. So if he's not between the hash books, he's throwing toward the sideline left or right on outside throws, he throws right 74% of the time and left 26% of the time. That is a pretty massive difference. That is a three to one ratio Jaden Daniels drops back. He throws right way more often than he throws left. Some of that is, by the way, anytime he leaves the pocket to his right, you're obviously splitting the field in half. That's your predominant side that you're throwing hand, whatever you're going to roll toward the side you throw with, but it's also been said by a couple broadcasters this season that defensive coaches have said when he leaves the pocket and goes to the right, he's going to pass. When he leaves the pocket and goes to the left, he's going to run, which is a tell I'd say that they've got to figure out and maybe make sure that that's not so stark that everybody knows about it. But again, I'm going to tell you the numbers 74% of his throws outside between zero and 20 yards are to the right, just 26% to the left, which in and of itself doesn't really matter, except that Terry McClellan almost always lines up on the left. Terry McClellan has lined up on the left on all the 27 routes this season. He has run well over 300 routes. On the right, he's been targeted eight times. He's got seven catches for 170 yards and two touchdowns, including that amazing game-ceiling catch against the Bengals. But if you remember, Kingsbury came out and said that that was like a play that McClellan and Daniels drew up on the sideline and he tried to get a timeout because he couldn't flip the formation and they ran it anyway, essentially, by meaning like he was trying to flip him to the left. He's going to like him over here on the right side. Let's not do it. And so he just went and caught the touchdown in the end zone and maybe it's not quite as stark as, you know, that Kingsbury was just some passenger, but that was kind of the way he told it and they told it that week. But my point is just to bring up that McClellan almost always lines up on the left and Daniels's proclivity is at a three to one clip to throw to the right, weird that Noah Brown has 10 more targets than McClellan over the last month. So it can be any number of things to contribute to this. Okay. So I'm going to chip away at it and then come back to the, to the, to the total point. I'm not going to lose the, the force for the trees here. Let's say for the sake of argument, Terry McClellan all the time is a single receiver to the left. And there's more options that are to the right, which I think happens an awful lot. The strong side of the formation, the tight end, a slot receiver, an outside receiver, a running back leaking out of the backfield often goes away from where the coverage is shaded. We, we're going to win a numbers game. If you're throwing one of those quick hitters, it feels like more of them go to the opposite side of Terry McClellan. I think that's one to again, more receiving options over there coverage dictated towards Terry McCorn. So other guys are open. That's maybe some more numbers going over there. Even with those factors, weighing this number down, it's still George Stark. It's still Tony Stark. It's still whoa, Ned Stark, Ned Stark even. Thank you for bringing up Ned Stark. I know you had that in the file, but you did good for you. What does he say? What's his famous line? Ned Stark says, when there's coming, look at this, look at this game of Paul's over here. I love it. I'm proud of you. Shake the tail when you walk. I didn't know if it was that or take the ring to Mordor. He was in both. Okay. No, it was in both. Yeah. Wow. Now he doesn't say take the ring to Mordor. He goes, it is a gift. We must wield it. And then they're like, you'll cut out, wield it. There are none of us who can, you know, through a power news. That's the whole thing. Anyway, the point of the dude story is there's, there's some reason why you're going to go right more than you go left in, in this setup because of where Terry McCorn is. The net net, the end result is what you just said is the last part to me is the part that I care about the most over the last several weeks, Noah Brown has more targeted term of corn. Nope. Wrong broken fix it. Shake shuffle up the snow globe and do it again. Well, Jay yesterday on our show was fantastic. And we didn't even really bring up the Terry McClaurin thing. Just so we're all on the same page. It's not like I asked him, Hey, we think Terry McClaurin needs to be moved around. What do you think about that? Jay was on our show and I asked him about Kingsbury's offense. And he said, I'll just read the quote here. This transcript got a lot of play last night passed around Twitter at Grand H. Paulson. He said, I think he does a good job in the running game, by the way, what a time to be alive. Yeah, that's an interesting thing, right? Not the passing game. He says, but I think some of his passing game, if I had any recommendations for him at all, it would be moved Terry around a little bit. You can't always put him on the left. Use the word Buckeye and have Noah Brown and Terry switch sides. It's not that hard. Line him up on the right side. Put him to the field sometimes, not to the boundary. Then you know, because just to clarify that, like the boundary, meaning he's on the shorter side of the field a lot of the time. And so he's running some of these, you know, there's a little less you can do with that, where if you put him out wide and then you run the endbreakers, he's got some more real estate. He says the slant to Noah Brown, let Terry run that slant and just say the word Buckeye and let Terry be the outside guy. But his point is this is a former play caller, coach coordinator, who had as much or more success offensively in the league as Kingsbury has had. And he's saying, this seems like a pretty easy thing you could do. And it's just not something for whatever reason Kingsbury with his guys in the past Hopkins, McClure and otherwise has ever really navigated away from. I want guys to line up on the same side. It's supposedly it's just based on tempo and the air raid and the timing of getting to the line and running as many plays as possible and not moving guys back and forth. But I thought that was fascinating from J. Gruden. But when you actually dive into the numbers, these are just two facts. McClure and almost never lines up on the right. Daniels prefers massively to throw to the right. And a lot of third fact, when McClure and has been target on the right, seven catches eight targets for an average of basically 30 yards per catch in a couple of touchdowns. Maybe you'd try to mix that in just a little bit more. But the phones have blown up. The question for you guys is why have they lost three in a row gyms in spots, so venue. What's up, Jim? Hey, guys, I'm going to pick up on what you were talking about being behind on the yard of chapter first down, et cetera. This reminds me of a Jordan Reed situation here, Robinson. We've got to have an uncomfortable conversation. Great guy, incredible talent. But if you hate between the lines, you're not helping us. And maybe it's time to start rethinking this moment because now you got in down, you got Echler down. What kind of running game you're going to have this week? I mean, I'm back in the later brown days. I'm really old. That guy came on changed the world for us. I'm seeing an issue here in the running game. Look at the beginning. Look at where we're at. That's the problem. Appreciate you, dude. So, yeah, I mean the the success of the early down success of the run game has clearly dissipated. It was an unsustainable level to start the season, right? Those, you know, not, not Tampa Bay Division. But since week two, through what would you say week seven, week eight, et cetera, they were basically, it was second and four before you blinked almost every time. Second and eight, they were getting first downs on runs. Everything was open. Devances have now adjusted to some degree, whatever they're taking away certain gaps, figuring out your tendencies. I'm not smart enough to know every single thing that they're doing every time, stack in the box, et cetera. But it's also not as if the other first down plays are working. It's the little slip screens, the little, you know, the any kind of jet action or anything sort of quick to it towards the sideline. Nothing is working on early downs all of a sudden over the last few weeks. And that sets up these really bad situations that no offense would be able to deal with consistently. Brian Robinson is injury riddled at this point. And I think part of it is his physical bruising style and his size. He's a big target. He takes on contact. It's a violent position. There's a lot of collisions and he's almost never running in space, right? He's running. Think about it. It's between the tackles. It's where all the bodies are. You're getting folded up. You're getting crunched. But he, while he played mostly in every game last year, he's kind of one of those guys that's always got the cue next to his name. It's like, oh, he's not practicing. There's something going on. And I actually agree with you. When you say there's a conversation that needs to be had, he's a very popular player and he should be. But I think they absolutely, I said this yesterday, I think running back should be a need for them this offseason. Well, I like B Rob a lot. I'd love a situation where he is a short yardage, kind of battering ram thumper, maybe salt a game away second half type guy. But I want more speed. I want more of twitch in this offense. I think they need a burner. You watch the really elite backs like Barkley. And if they get a crevice, they're gone. Robinson on a perfectly kind of developed play, not even perfectly blocked, but like he broke a tackle, got through the line. Nobody's around. And it's him in the open field. His longest run of the year for 40 yards got caught from behind. Like that is a house call for a running back with legitimate strike up the band speed. And I think that's the way they got to go offensively this offseason is look for some of that. Mike's in DC. What's up, Mike? Good evening fells. How y'all doing, buddy? I have three things to say. The Army Brown, McCaffrey, and Senate, we need to get them more involved. Jailer Daniels is running this show. He's not worried. He's sitting back with lax. He's cool in the game. And one more thing. They're watching our films every week. We're running some of the same place. And they need to put the Army Brown back on public turn. He got a lot of speed also. So that's all I ever say. Thanks, buddy. Appreciate you, dude. He's a big down me Brown guy. Like Stanley Brown. The Army made one nice catch this past week going up the ladder on a dig route inside, which I thought, you know, was probably as good a catch as he's made this year, maybe other than the touchdown early on. But if your point is they're not using their weapons well enough, I think I could co-sign on that. They've given Senate no chance to impact the offense. Bates gets more targets and more catches, which I think is pretty ridiculous. And I would like to see at least the opportunity for Luke McCaffrey to get involved. And someone could say, Oh, well, you know, if he's wide open, then they'd be thrown to him. Everyone says he's so open. Everyone's talking about the separation score. Let's throw him some passes and see what happens. Because until I see him either dropping passes or catching it, not getting any yak or not being helpful at a dependent position, I'm not going to blame him for the targets he's not getting with you. I mean, especially when the seps score is pretty good. Send it to second round pick. And what they've done a couple straight weeks, Philadelphia, and then this one is sort of wait with different formations throughout where John Bates comes on as a blocker as a blocker. Then when you least expect it, here's John Bates as a receiver. And there's something to that that's smart. Well, what it's resulted in is a plotting guy that should have easily gotten a first down by four or five yards that made it close. Actually, thought he got it, but the call was bad, but whatever equals game before the fourth down they never got and then a fumble this week. So like, it's, it's awesome move to make teams, you know, not expect something second guess, whatever that can be sent it to me. There is a role for him. Bates is actually a super helpful good football. 100% awesome blocker. And as a third tight end, he can make a catch here or there. If you're not looking for a yak or rumbling or big place, but when you're going to him, when your offense is sputtering like they did against the Eagles or like they did this past week, it's a tell. It is a screaming loud mouth into a microphone, microphone glass, microphone glass, or maybe a megaphone saying like you're, you're lacking weapons. But I would love to see Senate who was an animal in the preseason and who was one of the best weapons in his position in college football last year, just get a shot to get a target or a catch in the open field and see what happens. It's good at James and Silver Spring. James, you're on Grant and Danny. We're asking what the biggest reason is for Washington's three game losing streak. Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my call. But I'm for a long time. That's the first time calling. Thank you for making it. All right. All right. All right. All right. And there we go. I think it's talent early in the season, our B players are going against other B players. And so now that our B players are banged up, they're best of the C players. Now we're going against other teams. A players, what a player do we have on offense besides day and day? Well, yeah, I would say go ahead. Sorry. I don't think we're going to say that. I think he's a very good B player. He's an 89. That's almost an eight. Fair enough. You're going school grades. Yeah. I mean, look, I guess that semantics a little bit like where does he rank among receivers probably back in top 20? Is that an A? Is that a B? If you're saying you got to be a star? I mean, respectfully, Jayden Daniels has not played like in a player over the last month. Now, I don't think he's been bad. I don't think he's the problem. But you're just kind of chalking him up as an a player based on the early part of the year. Well, if we're only chalking guys up based on their best performance of the season, Terry McClurens had some a games too, right? I guess there's more sample size there. But look, you're not going to get much of an argument from us. And Danny, I don't want to speak for you. If you call in and say they lack elite talent, no kidding. Absolutely. I think they got some really good players on both sides of the ball, a few of them. Their best player this year, circuit to circuits, probably been Frankie Louvoo's been outstanding. I think he would be a first division starter for any championship level team. The Lions, the Chiefs, they'd be lucky to have him. McClurens would be a baller on those couple of teams. If that's the threshold, right? I think Jeremy Chin has played really, really well since the first couple of weeks of the season, he's been great. You could throw some guys into that conversation, Daniels and his apex, but they are lacking clearly, like the really high end talent. And some of the guys that we thought were that just haven't played like that. I mean, where is Deron Payne, by the way? Yeah. That's been a huge one. What is going on with Deron Payne? The Cowboys had two guards missing as part of the $100 million in cap space. That should have been the Deron Payne game. He had a sack on a play where Hooper Rush was trying to waste time and get sacked. So respectfully, I don't know how much I count that one to your two and a half on the year or whatever. But there's just not enough impact plays. I think he's got five hits on the quarterback this year. Disco and Laurel, you're on G and D. Good afternoon, gentlemen. How are you? Good, buddy. Hey, so I think three things. I think we're number one. I think we're seeing the real ramifications of the positions that we have consistently whisked on in the draft and free agency. No, William Jackson, no, Johan Dotson. We whisked on Davis. There are a few others. So I think we're really seeing the consequence of looking at the positions that we drafted to be impact players. And they're not impact positions. Second, I think the league is not so much catching up to our schemes, but catching up to our personnel. You can't, Terry McClellan is a very, very good player, but he can be taken out of games and you don't have another player. You don't have other players. Okay, we're going to take Terry, but we've got this other guy. And then the last thing, Grant, and I totally agree with you. And I think we saw a lot of this with Mike Shanahan is that why can't we have other players that we drafted high? So why can't we scheme them up? So true. Well, I did that. He killed me with that. Yes. So my last point is that I don't want to, well, I guess if I'm saying I'm putting it out in a universe, but Zach Earth has incentives in this contract, receptions and things like that. I don't know if that has anything to do with it, but with the lack of personnel, the league has caught up to that. And I, and I, one last thing, I do want to say not looking at Jayden Daniels now, I thought that this front office has done a magnificent job thus far, but I do wonder if we should have been a little bit more aggressive with a receiver. Thank you. Yeah, I thought so all off season and I had to shut up and eat it while their offense was scoring 38 a game for a month. But now I think to your point, I think you and I lock up on this one, disco. I think it's now come back to kind of haunt them a little bit. You can get away with it a lot of times when you're out scheming people, bullying them, knocking them around, you're playing Carolina who's, you know, looking for golf reservations. You get into the teeth of it as tape gets out there and teams make adjustments. I think then it comes time, you know, a bit more mono, a mono. I think they're suffering there a little bit. So let's do this next 806361067 you went away in. We'll take your thoughts on the biggest reasons for Washington's three game losing streak as they're now seven and five in a Hail Mary away from a six and six record. But which of these issues are actually fixable and correctable? And maybe we can isolate those as opposed to the. Like for this year, not long time. Yeah. I mean, this off season, they can start to make more of the opportunities and free agency in the draft and make up for some of the crimes of the Ron Rivera, Marty, party past, right? Like of the things they can fix, what does that look like and how do they do it? We're Grant and Danny. [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] That 51 yard touchdown run by Justin Hill put the game on ice last night for the Ravens in the Harbaugh Bowl. Baltimore got a 30 to 23 win. They led 30 to 16 though with a minute to play before the Gus Edwards one yard touchdown. Captain 11 play drive and garbage time and because nobody can get onside kicks anymore. You couldn't get them before. Now you've got to tell the team you're doing it. You know, you really can't get it. You couldn't a year ago. Now it's like borderline impossible three for 34 teams trying to get onside kicks this year. I'm surprised it's that many, honestly. Yeah, it doesn't seem like there was actually one this week that hit a guy in the leg. I think the Vikings were trying to field it and Johnny month their tight end was like trying to engage with someone and a ball hit him in the leg. And the Bears got an onside kick and went and kicked to field goal. But we're talking about 8% of onside kicks being fielded, which is one of the lowest rates in a long time. I tweeted this yesterday. Matt Grand H. Paulson Danny said funny Danny and I've felt this way for many years. I always get a lot of pushback on this, which is fine. But I think this is correct. I think they need to get rid of the onside kick and do the fourth and 15 play from the XFL. They have gone to the kickoff from the XFL now UFL and it's gone very well. Mostly. I mean, people are going to complain because it looks different, but there are more kicks returned. There are more kick off returns of length. There are more touchdown returns as we saw this weekend. Oh, by the way, backfired on us a little bit around these parts. But the onside kick does not work really to give you a chance. You now know if it's a two possession game with two minutes to go, you're going to lose. I don't think it should be easy to get an onside kick or to present maintain possession. So like when I say let's do the fourth and 15 play, everyone's response to that is, well, why do you want to make it easier for the team that's losing? They shouldn't have a chance. Well, then okay, then why have a chance at all? Then you should just have to kick it deep. What I'm saying is I don't think it should be 50 50, but I think it should be closer to 50 50 than 8%. It the game's over. What is the point of that? Make it more exciting. I think the sweet spot is like, you know, 25% of the time, 20% of the time, 18% of the time. So if you don't like fourth and 15, maybe make it fourth and 20. Yeah, I would say like fourth and 17 or something that's beyond a regular penalty. Whatever the math says at a 19 or 17% clip or whatever gets works, do that and add excitement to the game rather than the onside kick, which is now irrelevant and doesn't work. Yeah, you know, my view in general and you and I will park company this way. But to me, there are, let's say there's, I don't know, offenses each get 60 plays per game, right? There's 120 plays that look a certain way. Lineman receivers, running backs, line backers, cornerback safeties, and it looks incredible, right? It's the best spectacle we got. And then they stop and do these things that almost have very little to do with that when kickers trot on the field or punters, etc. And everything looks different. I would do more exciting football plays than less exciting ones that eliminates kickers almost almost exclusively, right? So I don't want to kick or involved in an onside kick. I want the offense to be involved. I want the quarterback that's my fantasy draft pick or that's the, you know, the reason everyone's tuning in every week, not to come down to a guy that was unemployed six days ago because the guy that's the starter pulled is growing. Like that's not fun for anybody. So to me, it shouldn't be easy. I don't want it to be easy, but I want it to happen sometimes with the skill of the football players less so than this random bounce that happens once every 25 times. Come on over to fourth and 15 club or whatever number we want to make. Fourth and 20, let's say I don't care if it's fourth and 25. I think it's better than watching an onside kick that nobody can field. Let's go back to the commanders and why they've lost three in a row. So looking for Danny, something that you think is very fixable that's gone badly. I'll start with moving Terry McLaurin around. That's my list. Motion getting him some better looks and free releases and also throwing the ball to him. I don't care if he's on the left, the right, the moon, Jupiter, don't give a damn throw him the football. In the last four weeks for Washington, there are targets to players. Brown 27, Earth's 24, Echler 18, McLaurin 17, he is fourth on the team in targets. There is zero excuse for that. So that's the quick fix for me to try to get this offense going a little bit more than it has been. McLaurin moving around. I second that the other thing I would add is Senate sometimes. Not every time. I don't want anyone bench. I don't want Zach Kurtz chatting to the sun or anything. I want Ben Senate involved as opposed to not involved at all. Let's go to Han and Fairfax on Grant and Danny. How are you doing? What's up, buddy? Grant Darnie. I'm a first time caller. I fell in love with the team listening to your station, especially you guys. It was in a lot of first time callers this week. I don't know why it's been a theme. Yeah. I mean, we've gotten a lot of them. It's a tremendous topics problem. It's probably what it is. Appreciate you now. Yeah. And what I want to say is, well, yeah, we can look at injuries, but everybody has injuries and the team and things like that have been done to death. But this is my worry and it's sort of a low probability worry. What if Jayden Daniels is actually a warm weather quarterback? This is this is some of the percolating among the Grant Paulson's of the world. Well, no, I wouldn't go that far. Now, I would not go that far. I wouldn't do it either. What I said after the Philly game was, he looked completely uncomfortable and flustered and bad. He just looked terrible. Why? I was trying to figure out why that was. And one of the things that came up was it was the coldest game potentially he's ever played in. Let's look into this. And we went back and looked at the other really cold games he's played in that are in the mid 40s or lower in college. And most of them were right around that Philly temperature of like 45 degrees. And in all of those games in college, he struggled. So it was just a, I'm not saying I'm just asking, like, is that a thing that maybe he just doesn't like the cold weather as much as the warm weather. That's not a crime. He's from California. He went to school at LSU and Arizona State. He whether he likes it or not, he certainly hasn't played that much in cold weather. And when he's played, he's struggled a little bit in cold weather. I don't think it's a thing. I'm just saying, until he plays really well in cold weather, it's not the craziest thing in the world to bring up that maybe he's not himself when it's 39 43 degrees. So I was doing stick. To me, it reminds me on a survey. He can't throw over the middle. He hasn't done it that much yet. He will. It'll be fine. Like he hasn't played a lot of cold weather games yet. That's not his fault. In fairness, if you look at the numbers with him throwing to the middle of the field down the field, they don't really do it. He throws outside. That's kind of carried over to the league. Well, they do that more. But the idea that he can't, I think, is always been ridiculous. And anyone who said he couldn't anything. He is one of the great athletes on the planet. He's one of the most talented quarterbacks in the league. The idea that he can't do anything is wrong. He's the guy was an MVP candidate a month ago. But I do think it is true that in college, he did a thing and didn't do another thing. And in the league, if you notice, a lot of his throws are outside. He just that's not what he wants to do is push the ball down the field in the middle of the field. The, but the general point is the, I think he hasn't played in cold weather yet. So like once, once he gets used to it, I have no doubt he'll be fine. Sure. And it's not your fault that you're from Southern California playing the SEC. And you're to be forgiven that there weren't a lot of 20 degree days in Louisiana, Texas, Alabama and Georgia. So Derek is telling me it's going to be 40 degrees on Sunday. So let's put this narrative to bed once and for all on Sunday. How about it? A high of 40 degrees, low 24. Wait, it's that cold? Oh, no. Real, real feel, 32 degrees on Sunday. Oh, no. Yeah. At one o'clock. At one o'clock. Danny, what's happening here? No. Winter. Do you think they're playing at Lambo? Is he aware that it's in land over, land over, not Lambo? Well, let me make sure that says land over Maryland. Well, the field is very Northwest. Like, if you know, it's about to be freezing. No, that's ridiculous. I was very comfortable today. I didn't know it was coming. It's like 80 a week ago. So 40 degrees and it's going to feel like 30s. Let's put this narrative to bed once and for him. He's going to be in his beanie and his coat on the bench ever. But let's just get out there and light up the tight. They're going to do all the treatment on his side is cartilage to keep him warm, right? Did that what he told people? I didn't see them doing any of that. I didn't either. Does anyone notice that he ran for 74 yards this past. Hmm. Let's go to Ray and Herndon. What's up, Ray? Go get a ray. Hey, what's up, guys? Long time listening first time caller once again. Wow. Yeah, there we go, man. Yeah, I think it's twofold, man. As far as things that we can change to help improve. One, Cliff Kingsbury's, he's got to make some adjustments, man. I don't think he's done a good job of adjusting to the defensive adjustments. You guys hit the nail in the head, man. We got to move Terry around. It's super counterintuitive to keep him on the left side. If Jaden likes throwing it on the right side, I understand trying to isolate him, but isolated him. Excuse me, but at the end of the day, man, if we're not getting in the ball, then all that other stuff doesn't matter. So we need to fix that. And then on the defensive side, Danny, you alluded to it as well, or, excuse me, a grant you did. Deron Payne, man. I mean, where is he? Where is he? You know what I mean? Like, he's our 90 million dollar defensive tackle. And like, you know, at half the time or most of the time, I don't even remember that he's even on the field. You know, Dreson Newton is our best defensive lineman, and that's a problem. You know, we don't generate enough pressure, not nearly enough. And, you know, that really falls on him along with the rest of the group, but he's got to do a better job. Thanks for the call, guys. Thank you. Very good call. Call back sometime. Be irregular. That was a very good call for a first time or there. How many quarterback hits does Deron Payne have in the last four games, do you think? I wouldn't be able to hazard a guess. I'm gonna, I'll say two one. How many quarterback hits does Deron Payne have since week four, do you think? So, what are we now? We're entering week 13. It's eight games, not nine games. That is, by the way, oh my God. I'll say five. Two. I just need more out of him. 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That's why the cops call it the mentor's trip because not everyone's brought their dads. Some guys have their grandfather or their brother or their father-in-law, but really they just get to bring someone who's important to them. Someone who most of them were important in their hockey careers as far as either paying for things, driving them to practice, being there at all the games and everything when they were growing up. It's sort of a way that they can give back and show the people in their lives what their lives are like and bring them along for the ride. The dads and the mentors have a blast. I mean, you know, it's kind of just a four-day party for them in a lot of ways. So they have a lot of fun. It usually gives the team a little bit of a lift to have these, you know, to have their folks with them and they want to show off well, obviously, when they've got an extra big group of people in the building. So it's a really fun tradition. And when the cops have fun with, I remember last year on this trip, they got a huge win over the Bruins in Boston in February. So kind of similar vibes last night with the way they played in Florida. And we'll see if they keep it going here in Tampa tomorrow night. But a really fun trip. One night, all the guys look forward to every year and one they have a lot of fun with. A really quick one. I know it's probably not fair just to pick on one particular power play. But I think there was one power play last night, where I don't know if the caps got it into the offensive zone. It was like, just, it was, uh, everyone was sort of looking around trying to do nuclear fusion with chopsticks at one point. I know, again, it's not going to be the same without a vechkin. But I know even they got a power play goal last night from Jacob Chickering. But it just didn't look right. The operation wasn't terrific last night. And it's probably going to be a struggle for a while. How do they tweak that? How do they fix that? Any room for improvement there? Yeah, I wouldn't be overly concerned. I know the power player talking about it. It definitely doesn't look great. I think one of the notes I wrote down when I was, you know, taking a train, the game was power play still an issue. So it's something they're still trying to find their footing with without OB. But they've also had moments. They've had power plays in the other games that have looked okay and just haven't found the back of the net. So I wouldn't want to overly pick on that one. You again know which one you're talking about and they looked a little bit out of sync. But it came early in the game when they were still kind of finding their footing overall. Once they found their footing at five on five, they got that power play goal from Jacob Chickering in the third period and looked more cohesive. So I think the way the offense played in the second and third period will help the power play in games going forward. Bailey, fantastic info on the Capitals. Thanks much. We appreciate it. Thanks guys. Well, last night sure was big for them to get two points without OB. Next up for the Capitals tomorrow night in Tampa against the lightning, a 730 puck drop. You can hear that game right here on the fan. Let's keep it moving. Our guy Glenn Consor, Wizards radio network. Of course, you've seen them all over town talking about the Wiz for many years and Glenn. There's more youth and there is more of a plan this time around. Doesn't make it any easier though. They are 2 and 13 as they get ready to host the Bulls tonight. 7 and 11 Chicago is coming to the district. What have you made of these first 15 games? Well, you know, I've been very impressed with the young players and also some of the veteran guys like Malcolm Brockman has come back and he looks good. He's probably been the most productive per minute guy on this team. I mean, he just comes in and gets stuff done. The young guys look really good and, you know, it's really incredible what we're seeing here because you've got four young players. Bilal, Kishan, you know, Bob and Alex Sar. All four of those guys are under 20 years old getting over 30 minutes again. So, you know, that is rare to see in the NBA in there and these minutes are very valuable and they really perform very well. Let's go to Kyle Kuzma here for a second. I think on understandably, Glenn, when you put the ball in Jordan Poole's hands most nights, it's going to be a little bit tougher for Kuzma to be able to kind of get off and get going offensively. It just feels like he hasn't quite fit in just yet. I know he's working back from injury at times as well. What have you seen from his game and, you know, there's for someone that's that big and strong and athletic, hard for me to stomach him getting one rebound the other night. You know, I know his teammates got more, but just feels like he's not in it yet. You know, I think he's going to be fine. You know, he's a prolific scorer. He could really score. And I think what you're seeing with Kuz is, you know, they're asking him to play a lot more off the ball this year than he had in the past. So that's an adjustment that he has to make and he'll figure it out. I mean, he could really shoot it. I think he's defended fairly well this year, and I think he's been really helping the young guys get better. So he's been selfless in that matter. And I think, you know, he'll get his rhythm back. I think it's a rhythm thing with them. And, you know what, playing with young guys like the Wizards are playing major minutes. You know, the young guys are making adjustments and the vets are making adjustments with themselves. So just speaking of the young guys, you referenced Alex Sarr. I thought he had a really good game the other night, just he's still so young. And I know, you know, some of the shooting percentages aren't where people would like them. I don't care about that, frankly. Someone that's that big and that athletic that moves around the way that he does on the basketball court. Let's figure it out, ultimately. What have you seen from him and where does this thing go in terms of where Sarr is going to end up? First of all, he has really started to play very well. He had 17 points and 14 rebounds against Indiana and he's 19 years old. Now, if I know you, Danny, well enough, as like I do, the shirt you're wearing is about 20 years old. It's pretty much true. Actually, it's about 10 years old. OK, I think it's 20, but you don't want to say anything. But, you know, that's ridiculous. I mean, he's 19. He's fourth in the NBA in blocks, not amongst rookies. He's fourth in the NBA in blocks, overall. He's learning. He's getting minutes. You know, he needs to put on weight. He needs to get stronger, which, you know, 19-year-old bodies. This is what it looks like. So, you know, I think the minutes he's getting now and getting some tutelage from Balanchunas, who's been tremendous, it's only going to help him. His upside is really good. You know, he hasn't shot the ball well, but his shot's not broken. I'm not afraid to get it up. He's going to be fine. Glenn Consor. Glenn Consor on the Wiz as they get ready for the Bulls tonight at Capitol One Arena. How about Chicago? What do we need to know about them? Bit of a slow start in there? I got to be honest, I'd rather be the Wizards, where you're at least committing to a rebuild. You're in a bad spot in the standings, but as it means to an end, I mean, the Bulls are kind of in a more middling territory. What have you seen from them? Yeah, I mean, they're a dangerous team. They shoot a lot of threes. They lead the NBA, their second in the NBA to the Celtics in three-point field goals made. They got multiple players like Zach Levine. Zach Levine's played very well. You know, who knows how long he is going to keep shooting as well, but he's shooting 44% from three. They got Josh Giddy on the trade with Caruso Vusovic, who always -- he's like one of the most underrated big guys in the NBA. He's shooting 46% and Kobe White is -- they got four or five guys shooting over 40% from three. So they'll get it and go. They'll want to push the pace. They're amongst the -- they're second in the NBA in pace. Actually, they lead the NBA in pace per 18 games, and pace referring to the total number of possessions a team uses in a game. So, you know, they get out and run. That's not fast break buckets. It's just, you know, possessions. So they -- and they lead the NBA in pace. And Wizards, I think, are fourth. So it's going to be an uptempo game. And I think from the Wizards standpoint playing against this team, they limit their turnovers, the unforced turnovers. And don't settle for threes. You got a chance of beating them. Glenn, thank you as always, buddy. Talk soon. All right, guys. Seeing my friend. Hit that local 53 sounder. We bring on Eric Bickle to talk about the local 53. E.B. two things. One, I spit out my coffee this morning in my vehicle. When you said -- and I quote -- "Is blue shorts still alive?" I don't think I've laughed that hard in a long time. Second. I'm sorry. I'm having a hurt problem. Is he okay? I think -- I think he's okay, but I can't confirm it, but that made me laugh harder than I've laughed in months. I was texting with him today. Blue shorts is doing great. Okay, guys. I mean, almost tears in my eyes laughing so hard. Secondly. Secondly. Why are people disrespecting your voice? A lot of people picking the Titans all of a sudden. Yeah, listen. I get it, but people have lost confidence, right? And I guess I have a little bit, too, but I still just have tremendous amount of faith in this kid. I think he's a superstar. I think we need to put a little bit more on his shoulders, not left. And I think he's dealing with some guys that aren't quite as talented as he is. And we need to let this kid do his thing. And I just have total faith in him. I think that the legend of the Titans defense is crazy. Who cares? They're the Titans. I'm taking my voice. And I'm just tired of the disrespect. I still think we're an okay football team that should beat teams like the Tennessee Titans. Where do you add on Cliff Kingsbury right now? I'm hot and cold on him. Now, listen, I'm the first one to admit that these guys are all a hundred times smarter about football than me. They ain't no way more than me, right? That they give it. I stipulate that. But, like, I don't know. I thought he made me a little bit too much at the beginning. Then I thought he had it going, right? Obviously. And now, I think when he was hurt, I don't know if things just started to dissipate a little bit. I just lost a little confidence. I don't know if it's because Terry always lines up on the left side or, you know, certain concepts that he runs. I don't know that stuff. I'm not sophisticated enough. But I sure would like to see a little more protection for Jacob so that he can complete some intermediate throws. I don't like this idea of run, screen, run, and then a shot to Terry or something. Like, I just think that's weird. Like, this kid can do it all. He can make all the throws. Let's protect them. Maybe let's do a little bit more in that area. I know a lot of times they chip with a tight end that are running back. Let's try to do that maybe as often as we can. And let's just let this kid execute. And if it's not there, let him take off and go. See, that's where he really liked this place on fire. I don't know. I think it's impossible to ignore the cliff second half decline. I don't want that to be true. It's kind of embarrassing for him. But he would have got like a decade plus of data all pointing to the same thing. There might be something there. I'm not smart enough to know. But I sure wouldn't make fun of it when they ask you a question about it as a question. How much will Marshall and Latimore help if and when he comes back? I think he'll help a lot. You know, it's amazing. I don't actually think Benjamin is the worst corner I've ever seen. I actually don't think that. He's often times in good position. This guy in what? 40-some career NFL games and 30-some career college games. He's got one career interception. He's the worst all-awareness corner I've ever seen at this level. I've never seen anything like it. So I think, do you agree? I think Latimore will help a lot. But I think there's a role for St. Jude somewhere for a big corner. Just not garden number one. Yeah, totally agree with you. No, completely. I think he's in the... I mean, you look at the PI penalties, the physical penalties he has. He's often... The coverage is decent. Now he has this year at really bad times. Been beaten deep now a few times here over the last month. So it's harder to defend him on those. But yeah, I think by and large, the narrative and the actual play up until the last few weeks probably wasn't quite even. Hey, before we let you go, are you on the golf course? It's a little windy. Yeah, sorry. No, it's fine. I'm sorry. No, I'm on a golf course. I thought it'd be done, but it started to get bogged down on my 18. I'll play it terribly. I'm not drinking. It's not a good day. When did you get... I mean, you used to be steamed up for golf, I feel like. But then you weren't. Now you're like obsessed again. Is this the most into golf you've ever been? Most ever. Most ever. Because that's my kid. You'll see this as your kids get older and they start to kind of graduate from you. You got to find your life again, right? That's true. So I need to find something that I can major in again. I can't major in chasing two of my kids anymore. So do you go out by yourself and golfer? Do you have buddies you'll meet? Oh, no, no, no. I got buddies and I joined a very modest local club. It's awesome. And so yeah, I know guys. I got a little group. I mean, I highly recommend it. The best thing I ever did. It's relaxing. I don't know what you do for relaxation. I think you thought of like wizard games or something. Yeah, capitals mainly. Pretty much. It's the throw in my glass, Eric. You'd like it. I love the caps games. Now, you know what I am? I'm a huge movie guy. I love going to the movie theater, eating popcorn and just drinking a Pepsi Zero or Coke Zero and watching a film. You don't go to like JP and like get like a steak at the movie. Oh, I I've never ordered food at the movie. Like people do these even nachos or chicken tenders, no chance. I eat before I go and then I pummel popcorn. Dude, when they pump the smell of that popcorn in and as soon as they hit you, you gotta get the popcorn. Oh, it's the best. Yeah, it's amazing. I feel like that. Tell me a kick that about halfway through the pocket. That'll get you. That'll happen. You're in one of those humble Bethesda golf clubs. One of those like low cost options. I didn't want to let that line pass. No, no, I mean, it's just a modest club. It is. I'll tell you. I mean, people know it's a modest club. It is. It's nice. Great food. It's modest. It's not. It's fine. It's something. It's nice. It's fine. Eric Goa. It's been a strong buddy. We appreciate you happening on the golf day. All right. I'm sorry, guys. No, no, no, no, no. Be sorry. It was good. That's the favorite. You sounded good. I just could tell you were out and about somewhere. Oh, there's Eric Pickle of the junks. Listen to him about six. Hey, boy. See you brother. Tomorrow morning with the junkies right here on the fan. That there is your beltway blitz. We want to try a segment next. We haven't done on the show, but I think it could be fun. So the idea here is going to be summed up, I think, pretty easily in the title. Okay. We're going to play. You guys don't want to hear this, but so you're going to come up with a take you actually believe about the commanders, player on the commanders, whatever it is, that maybe people don't want to hear, but that's right. You don't want to hear this, but commanders addition will do that next. We got Christopher Passo at five to talk about Jaden Daniels struggles. We got Mateo don of the Fairfax school board to discuss hate field football being out of the playoffs again at five 30, you're listening to the fan. We're going to try a segment out here. We're going to call it. You guys don't want to hear this, but this is the commander's edition of you don't want to hear this, but so we'll give you some examples and then we'll open up the phones for you guys at 800-636-1067. So this is probably if I had to sum it up, I would say maybe a take that isn't going to be loved by the fan base, something that isn't going to go over well, but it's true. Little truth serum kind of take here. So Danny, why don't you go first? You guys don't want to hear this, but you guys do not want to hear this and I'm going to catch some Eric blank for this. Okay, but they really botched the second round of this draft this year. They got a guy that can't get on the field for an offensive struggle who plays offense. They got a defensive tackle for a defense that can't stop the run. That second round quarterback Mikey Sander still will help them. That should have been the only guy on that side of the ball they drafted. They missed their chance to really improve an offense that now is in desperate need to playmakers. Ooh, okay. You guys don't want to hear this, but the offense of regression that we're seeing right now is the best thing that could have happened to this team because Cliff Kingsbury is not going to be a head coach anywhere next year if this continues more than it's yet. He will be back as their offensive coordinator and Jaden Daniels will have consecutive years working with Kingsbury in the same offense without any major changes. You don't want to hear this, but they weren't winning the Super Bowl this year anyway. So you might as well come back to the pack, little dose of reality, be what you actually are, not play above your head and not lose your offensive coordinator to a head coaching job. You guys probably don't want to hear this, but they botched this Austin cyber thing. He was rushing back from injury and you let him do it. There should have been more patience and more calm, right? Because he's got someone breathing down his neck now and old Zane Gonzalez kicking from the practice squad or whatever. They did a Brian Dable kind of bit where they go, this injured guy, I'll take him at his word for it. Now he can't kick it out of the end zone. I don't want to say it lost you again. What lost you the game was you weren't as good as the Cowboys and a million things went wrong. But some of those mechanical things might not be able to kick the body of the end zone. Some of the botches now the guys on IR 48 hours after the final game, they didn't handle this kicker situation correctly. You guys don't want to hear this, but if you're just looking at the last few weeks of football, Jayden Daniels might be the fourth best rookie quarterback playing over these last couple of weeks. Now, he should be the rookie of the year as of the whole season, but if we're just looking at the last couple of weeks, bonics and Denver, Drake, man, New England, Caleb Williams with a new coordinator in Chicago, if you're ranking the quarterbacks based on their last couple of maybe three games or so, I think Jayden Daniels is third or fourth. Now that's a very, very small sample and may not matter, but it's been a little while. You guys don't want to hear this, but September was a while ago, man, October middle of October was a month ago. It's time to get Jayden Daniels back on track here because we're headed toward kind of a half and half year where he's been electric, unbelievable, historic, amazing for about half of the year and the other half has been very fine. I'd like to get back to the electricity in the fun and the let's talk about him as an MVP stuff. I can't prove this one. I just read this before I've done this dance before I've seen it. You guys aren't going to want to hear this, but this March on ladder more hamstring thing ain't going away. We're going to be doing this dance for a while, limited on Wednesday, Thursday walk through tried individual drills is on the Curtis Samuel treadmill on the other memorial bike on the side. This thing is not going anywhere. We're not just going all of a sudden have him and then he plays great. You guys don't want to hear this, but Brian Robinson gets hurt too much and they need a new RB one this off season. They need to go get someone with some speed who can stay on the field and prove a little bit more durable. I like be Rob as much as you guys do. In fact, I love the kid. 25 years old when he's overcome, it's done some really good things, but you're going into a week against Dallas Cowboys easiest team to run on in the national football league and he gets banged up on the first play and it's five for 13 after he got rolled up on it was a gruesome, awful looking thing. I can't believe he wasn't more seriously, but here we are. He's got two 100 yard games this season. They're too good a rushing team when it's right for that to be the case. All right. The segment is called, you don't want to hear this, but it's commander's edition. Larry, what do you got? You guys may not want to hear this, but Terry McClellan ain't going to be a wide receiver one on this team making a playoff push. He's good, he's a wide receiver, one B, you need a Justin Jefferson, you need someone who has Sam Darnell thrown him the ball and he's still going to get 130 yards and two touchdowns. And sometimes Harry just ain't that Wow, so hold on, let me double click on this because you're right. I don't like that very much. Yeah. I don't like hearing that. I'm not saying you said anything wrong. So you're saying to make the playoffs sort of like make a playoff push like in the playoffs. So to go on a run, they need a basically a better receiver than McClellan and then let him be the one B. Yes. And then you are set. I think you're right about two things. One, people are going to hate that and two, they'd be a hell of a lot more explosive offensively. That was the case. Now he's fourth in the league and in receiving yards. However, he's the only guy that's played 12 games on that list. If you go to yards per game, it's a very different story. It's having a great year. He said five 100 yard games for the first time in his career that's never happened before, but I mean, we see it. He's the number one receiver in like contested catch category stuff. He has to make a lot of catches with dudes draped all over him. He occasionally does get open deep vertically down the field. This past week, he had a guy beat and Jaden Daniels basically threw the ball out of bounds. Darrus, you guys aren't going to want to hear this, but Jeremy Chen, he's made a lot of fans this season so far, but he might have played himself out of a contract here. This price tag might have increased way too high for the liking of Adam Peterson company. I don't think Jeremy Chen's re-signing here next year. Oh, how about that? I do know he was flat-footed on that touchdown that went right over his head and it's some sort of covered in like a middle third of the field and like that we weren't going to talk about that. DBs are going to have bad place. He's been mostly awesome. I think so. I even in this game, by the way, he had a couple of huge plays and big moments that hit he levied on, but should have been maybe a fumble. I think it was 83. I think it was that guy to look up Jalen Brooks. My God. That was Sean Taylor. Ask. That was a lot of hits. You don't see me more. I know. You really don't. Awesome. I love Jeremy Chen. I need him. I want him to get a long-term deal. Darrus is talking some S here saying maybe he's played his way out of Washington with a big old payday and they don't want to pay another safety. They got Quan Martin. You guys don't want to hear this, but 806361067 it's a commander's edition on GND here on the fan. The segment we're doing on Grant and Danny is you guys don't want to hear this, but something that you think is true that commander's fans may not necessarily be happy to hear little truth serum on GND after three straight losses. You're locked into the fan. By the way, top of the hour, Christopher Pozzo of CBS Sports wrote about the regression over the last several weeks of Jaden Daniels. He was planted a level that was unsustainable. One of the great rookie stretches begins of a year that we'd ever seen. He's just been okay here recently. Overall, it's been a really, really good rookie year. Just like he's the answer looks like Washington has found their man, but we'll talk to Tripasso about what's going on here during this decline and you'll want to be listening at 530 for sure. Matteo Dunn Fairfax County School Board, one of the few people all along that's been trying to do an investigation into what was going on over at Afield with a recruiting scandal for football is going to join us. Afield pulled their team out of the playoffs. The principal did, who was originally allegedly involved in the planning of bringing over the coach and all the players and this big plan that got hatched. Well, the AD is the one that's fallen on the sword here. He's out contract terminated reportedly today already took a leave of absence. And the principal is pulled the team out of the playoffs. So we'll talk to Matteo Dunn about what's going on here and what this means for high school football, not only in Fairfax, but in all of the DMV. But let's get to the calls. You don't want to hear this, but Kevin in Arlington, what's up? Hey, fellas, you don't want to hear this, but I'm looking at you, Grant, and you, Danny. Oh no. The last three games have proven to me and when we get the off season, the shopping list doesn't start with let's get one or two more passing game weapons for Daniels. We need line of scrimmage play. We got Jabs on the O line and we got under performers on the D line and we're going to have to invest again in the D line, maybe two positions, maybe richly and I love Brandon Coleman. I was high on him. He's at best a right tackle. Okay. Those are more important, sadly, than the weapon that we lack opposite the court. So the only thing I disagree with, Kevin, it's a good phone call body. We're locked and loaded, so we're going to keep it moving here quickly is I think Brandon Coleman has been mostly really, really good and there was a regression there. Certainly the Philly game, the Pittsburgh game weren't great in the best blocking grade among all left tackles in the NFL this past week against Dallas and as a third round pick who's still kind of getting his feet wet, I've seen enough there to feel like he's more than a project. Like that could work, but otherwise I think you're right. They probably need more on the O line and they definitely need to get more out of the D line. I wonder if the pain could be a trade chip. It's a huge contract, but I wonder if there's some thought there because I don't think Allen's coming back. Maybe someone would look out and go, Oh, he needs a change of scheme, change of scenery, change something to maybe get back to that production. Let's go to James and silver spring. What's up, James? Yeah. You all don't want to hear this, but office, office of talent is not that good. That was one a player and we could do nothing with it and that's number 11 part. Yeah, I don't think many people would agree. Yeah. I mean, that's kind of been the point since the off season, right now on a good day, you look around and you go Daniel's baller, McClaurin stud, Echler legit, Robinson solid legit. And Sam Cosme dude, that's not a bad foundation. But if we're looking for stars, where are your stars? Let's go to Dylan and Sterling. What's up Dylan? Hey, so y'all already hear this, but this offensive meltdown could not have happened at a better time. If we had come out and take Dallas 34 to 10 and we'd be saying, Oh, they just played Duke on teams and he was chewy and it was the rip, but no, Dallas figured it out. The worst defense of the league, they have no choice but to go back and to go to the drawing board. But we're already seven and five, we're ahead of schedule. I'd rather them figure it out now than going into a playoff game, you know, get it figured out. You've got Tennessee a five week. It worked. That's a good call. Give me the cut you off that smart way to look at it, honestly, right? Where you'd, I'd rather find out sooner than later on whatever it is. And even if information I wanted ASAP, I hate that loss and I wish it didn't happen. I love the point though, which is if they aren't who we thought they were, let's just get to the bottom of it. Let's do it now, not January 2nd. Let's not heal with a late win against the Cowboys and and walk around with our chest out like at eight wins. You're on your way. Let's go to Shane and DC. What's up, Shane? What's going on, fella? How y'all doing today? Good buddy. Happy Thanksgiving to y'all, y'all family. You too, bud. Hey, look, you may not want to hear this, but Johnson Allen and D pain is not going to be on this roster next year. That's a fact. And good reason for paying because you know, if you look at that contract year, that's all he's had. And he got his money. And now he's not even performing. Just make a play. He can, he makes one play a week. And that's it. I think them two are off the scene next year and, and you know what, see, you're not good guy. By the way, let me throw something out real quick. How about my boy? Don't connect right down the league. Guy. Give him a bucket. Don't connect. You get bucket. He is such a good fit. By the way, with a couple of different guys that are handling the ball and dominate with it. The wizards to take him at one or two, which I still would say I'm not going to do that. But now he wouldn't be doing that here if he's number one on the scouting report, but I'm telling you, look it up. He is a bucket. Let's go to J and DC. What's up, Jay? I got some true sound for you. I want to thanks give him food drive. Can I remind you that two years straight people have had to call in and tell there to keep it real? Potato, they'll rotten green bean, casserole, struck strawberry pie. Come on, man. No one should be. So Brian, it's the one catching too much crap. No, you think? No. Ryan is the best. Ryan is the best part of the show. No one should be googling Thanksgiving food and think you should be thinking back to the past and ranking your favorite dinner. No one should be pulling a crime rate out of their tickets. Well, why did that? That was the crime rate. Danny every single year goes outside the box, plays by his own rules and ruins everything. Then the answer is yes. That's totally true. Yes. That and and there is it's taken just choose the stuff that's on the table and Ryan is the best part of it is so much fun that he did he draft stuff like that in places that he probably shouldn't. Yeah. He makes the most fun. Stop trying to change it. You know what? That's some good truth serum. I think we needed to hear that before tomorrow's. This is this is my running theme. We're like clock food draft. We're like Ryan's never seen any movies and Derek just sits there not catching any shrapnel. It's true. You know what I mean? I mean, Derek's his drafts have been abhorrent. Remember John Carlson? Like just eviscerated you to the point where last year we had him on for some reason around the holidays. And he's like, is dearest the one that answered? Can you apologize to him for me again for last year? Remember that there's I remember him being incorrect about it though. Yeah. It was a terrible take from what I remember interesting and Jay always keeps me in check. So shout out to Jay and DC just a bad plate for my guy. There's there's no doubt three o'clock tomorrow for the annual Grant and Danny food draft today before Thanksgiving. Matt and DC. What's up? Gentlemen, I want to you guys aren't going to hear this, but I got to push back on the notion that Jayden Daniels isn't the best hasn't been the best rookie quarterback the last few weeks. I don't think any of those guys have had a stretch like Jayden did at the end of that Dallas game. That's not what we're talking about. Oh, you mean at the end of this game? Sorry. I didn't mean to jump on you. No. Yeah. Gotcha. I mean that that that stretch was last. None of those guys. You mean the last five minutes of the game? Yes. When he was like a real fan panel, like when he just brought us down the field twice. Well, twice is doing some heavy lifting. One of those was Terry McClure and catching a ball in front of safeties and then running through a good ball like he was going through a corn maze. Okay. So if that is absolutely if that's taking him through the that's not true, they said that's true. That is true. But I mean, so if we're given Jayden Daniels credit for that cool, I guess that was a very good path and and like the guy is a very yes, it was. It was very good. I know. I mean, he was there. He was three here. People all around him. 10 feet in every direction. He did. It was sort of like an apparition like the Cowboys apparently couldn't see him. But wow, the other thing I want to say is about Brian Robinson. I'm not comparing him to Saguar and Barkley, but that kind of thinking, you know, players get dinged up for a couple of you know, here and there. I'm kind of thinking as part of the reason the Giants, let's take one go. And I'm not like the only reason of comparison is that this guy is a good like first and second down grinder. He doesn't fumble. He had a couple of monster games this year, you know, along with that, you know, it's like having this offense bring out the best in him. Well, here's the definite truth, Matt, and it's a good privilege, but thanks for making it. Appreciate you hopping on. Have a good Thanksgiving. I would just say when he's healthy and rolling, the offense is good. When he's not. It's a different story. Keep looking at your watch. When does that happen? We're missing or missing, you know, parts of games and tire games. When it's there, it's great. But it's not always there. That segment was a winner. Let's jot that down. We got to do it again. You may not want to hear this, but that segment was good. I was fired. I'll do it again. We got Chris Trappasso of CBS Sports coming up on why Jaden Daniels has not been planted the same level here recently. And then Mateo Dunne of the Fairfax County School Board on the big high school football drama that we've been talking about on the show all coming up this hour on the fan. [BLANK_AUDIO] [BLANK_AUDIO] Grant and Danny taking you up to 630 on the fan as Washington builds up on your 30 on the fan as Washington builds a foundation for success on and off the field this season. It is time for you to plan for your future as well. The sponsor of our show is the law firm Condorian Murad that will help you update your last will and testament and they'll set up a revocable trust for you and your family. Schedule a free consultation with our estate planning attorneys today by visiting kmloyers.com. Be sure to tell them we sent you to get a discount. It's kmloyers.com. Welcome to guest hotline. We find our friend Chris Trappaso, CBS Sports. We've had him on over the years. Many times the preview the NFL draft does some good deep dives for CBS and he recently wrote about what was happening to Jaden Daniels, analyzing the commander's quarterbacks. Sudden decline was the headline and he dove into a bunch of numbers. Chris, you are on in the nation's capital. Buddy, thanks for a few minutes. How are you? Hey, I'm doing very well guys. Thanks for having me on to talk to Jane Daniels. I always appreciate it, quantify what we saw to start the season and now what we've seen here of late because overall the numbers are still pretty impressive and we have all those great memories but it hasn't felt the same lately. What did we see early and what did we see now? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that's good to keep that just in the proper framework that this is not someone that's suddenly, you know, we're talking about as a boss. I mean, he's still operating at a pretty high level, especially relative to how most rookies operate early on the scheme was getting guys open. I wrote in my article that whether you think it was just natural ability or that scheme from Cliff Kingsbury in the first six weeks or so and when really the Jane Daniels train took off, the commanders had four wide receivers in average separation score. There's a new analytics website out there, fantasypoints.com that they're watching all the film assigning a grade based on how open a receiver is on a given play, summing them up and averaging them by how many routes they've run. We had Luke McCaffrey, Daimy Brown, Terry McClorin, and the third one is escape. Oh, and Noah Brown, we're all in the top 25 and that was the only quarterback that had that. So the scheme is working well and credit to Jane Daniels and his understanding. Maybe it's some of the VR that he's utilized. Maybe it's his vast experience at the college level. He was understanding where to go with the football and throwing very accurately. Now lately I think like it really is the case with any quarterback and any situation, defenses are starting to adjust, they're starting to take away that first read. There's not as many open receivers underneath and at the intermediate level and like we saw late in that game against the Cowboys, the first three quarters were not that spectacular but late was, Daniels is still able to make some of those impressive throws but those lay ups aren't there. To get him to the 70, 80% completion, the yards after the catch for his entire team have kind of diminished over the last couple weeks, these three straight commanders losses. So I think more so than anything else, and I kind of summarized my article with this, that let's see down the stretch here with the commanders certainly in the thick of the NFC playoff race, if Jane Daniels can elevate those around him and if it's not a wide open Noah Brown on a dig route or the seam shots down the middle to Zach Earth that were netting big gains that haven't been there, let's see if he can do more beyond the scheme and beyond those first looks in this offense. I think he has the natural ability to do that and I think he elevated those around him at LSU but I think he's just not able to rely so heavily on the scheme like he did in the first two months of the season. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense, Chris and it was great to see him running the ball again as well and explosively as he did against Dallas because I think that could open some things back up. You know, that had been basically a huge part of his game that completely went away over the couple of weeks before Dallas and then he went seven for 75 on the ground, but you point out he's completed 61% of his throws for about 6.4 yards per attempt. Three touchdowns, three interceptions over these last three games, which just doesn't even look like numbers that would be assigned to him based on what we saw previous to that. I'm curious though, you know, how much of this is him versus like a Kingsbury thing with the offense where we talk all the time about the second half Kingsbury regression, you pointed out if you take out the last five minutes of the Cowboys game and I think that's totally fair to do because the first 55 were different and then all hell broke loose and it was just a wild card of a whirling nervous of, you know, maniacal football play, but they're 27th in EPA. They've been number one all year over a three week span, you know, prior to those last five minutes against Dallas 27th out of 32. Yeah, and I think that is a very fair question to ask. I'm sure you guys have talked about it all week and there's, you know, the history there with Cliff, with Cliff Kingsbury as an offensive coordinator in Arizona that down the stretch. You can even go back to his Texas tech days that, you know, a lot of hot starts and then teams would catch on and then the adjustments maybe weren't there. So for as much as, and this is interesting, for as much as Cliff Kingsbury has the NFL experience, he has the play calling experience at the collegiate level with packs from homes, you know, you know, you know, cross paths with Baker Mayfield, Kylo Murray, of course, he has that experience and Jane Daniels insane amount of experience at the collegiate level, but is only a rookie. I'm not necessarily much of a believer that all of a sudden Cliff Kingsbury is going to just totally drastically alter his scheme and make an insane amount of adjustments. We have the track record that we know he has not done that. I actually have more faith like you're mentioning in Jane Daniels starting to utilize his legs more when that first and maybe second read is an open that he understands he's usually like the fastest player on the field. Maybe the rib injury is a little bit in the rear view mirror and we know that, you know, Dan Quinn has mentioned it has really held him back, but he hasn't been able to practice as much. And I think, you know, all the practice reps you can get at the rookie are really important. So I actually have more faith that Daniels himself can make something out of nothing more frequently than hoping that Cliff Kingsbury is suddenly just going to be this great November and December play collar because he just never has been that type of play collar in the NFL or in college. Chris Trappaso, CBS Sports with this year on G and D. So Chris, all off season I was screaming until I was blue in the face, Grant was sick of it, everybody listening to the show was probably sick of it. I'm going, they're missing an opportunity. They are not doing enough giving Jaden Daniels enough weapons. And for the first, you know, nine games, I look like a horse's ass as this offense was corn 36 a game, pretty much every week and they're running up and down the field. Now all of a sudden it looks like maybe I was right as people have kind of caught up. Give me a win just your thoughts on that and then, and then use the, the separation scores part of this is maybe a window into what's actually going on here with the offensive leg. Yeah, no, that's a really good point. And I actually wrote near the end of my article that, and this is kind of paraphrasing my own writing here, but that Washington is realizing that it's scheme might not be brilliant. And it's past catching options might be good, but maybe not great. And to your point, that's kind of the general consensus, not just what I thought. I mean, Kerry McClure. And we've all thought has been like a budding superstar and we've seen him be that de facto number one in most games, he's the go-to guy, whether it's the 86 set touchdown last week, the catch against the Cincinnati Bengals early in the season on that early Monday night game. He's been that guy. Besides that, we all did go into the season thinking, okay, like what else do they have? Like Zach Gers, I think it's been a pleasant surprise at his age, Luke McCaffrey is athletic. I liked him coming out of rice, but I wasn't expecting him to be a big part of an offense. Dimey Brown, splash plays here and there, but never really consistent enough. I actually haven't checked what their average separation scores are lately, but I would assume they would have to be lower because in watching the film those first six weeks, again, I don't think it was all four of those guys were just running these amazing routes getting opened by themselves. The scheme was getting them open underneath at the intermediate level and Daniels was doing a great job understanding, again, where to go with the football. So I would assume that those numbers are down a little bit and when you're a quarterback, you're not going to always have those wide open receivers. So again, it goes back to Daniels. Can he and collaboratively, Cliff Kingsbury come together and get the most out of what is probably a average at best skill position group in this entire NFL? So I'm going to read an excerpt and I just want you to expound upon it and it goes into what you were just talking about in terms of the talent at wide receiver through the first six weeks of the season, Washington was 10th in football and yak per reception at 5.6 yards. Daniels was the only quarterback in football with four receivers in the top 25, which you've talked about in separation score. But this idea of yards after the catch that have gone away, is that a ball placement thing or does a yak typically come from openness? Is that why you reference it and link it to separation score that theoretically the yak came from guys being wide open and that part has gone away. So I've watched all of Daniels drop X this season as part of this every Tuesday. I come out with a grading article for first and second year quarterbacks. I've been doing it for like five or six years now. I haven't noticed Jaden Daniels like, Oh man, his ball placement. Like he had a, oh, say wide receiver open on a deep over, but he threw it behind him so he gets tackled. I think it's more scheme related and just player skill related. And again, when you look at this skill position group, McClellan, because of his pure speed that he's that low four three guy, he's not going to make a ton of guys mess. But he, if he gets any type of runway, he can really go Luke McCaffrey is also very fast. Noah Brown, Daimy Brown, not really yards after the catch guy, Zach Hertz was never really that type. So I think it's, it's more again, the scheme is not getting these receivers, not just open for Jaden Daniels, but open with space to pick up, you know, to change a five yard slant into a 15 yard game. You just haven't seen those, not even just a splash place down the field, but those intermediate that 10 to 20 yard games that I think were so prevalent in the first two months of this season. You mentioned the grading that you do on the young quarterbacks, which is a piece I always love. So what's been the high watermark for Daniels and where is he at now? Presumably, I mean, Nick's has kind of caught him in the rookie of the year race. It seems like Daniels is the favorite and Nick's is right behind him going into week 13 now, but I'd be hard pressed to imagine just body of work full season. Daniels wouldn't still be the number one of this class, but I defer to you here. How do you kind of see that with your rankings now? Okay. This, this works out because I'm on a Washington radio station, but I really mean that I'm given my objective analysis here. Jayden Daniels should still be late years ahead of Bo Nix in the offensive rookie of the year race. Like watching them and I'm talking about steam and Jayden Daniels has been really relying on it. Bo Nix has been probably three times as reliant on the scheme that Sean Payton has given him in Denver. I mean, it is swing pass screen wide receiver screen, tunnel screen to the tight end. RPL like he has not been asked to do very much as a quarterback, the defense has played well in Denver. They've won a couple of games against the lesser opponents and the touchdown numbers are starting to get relatively close because a lot of yards after the catch there in Denver. In terms of Daniels, high water mark, I mean, I'm looking at the grades now, week three, I gave them an A plus, week four, a minus. And then really it hasn't kelv off considerably during this three game losing streak. I gave them a C minus and week 10, a D plus and week 11, but then this past week, even though the numbers weren't good and the offense was stagnant, I still gave him a B. I thought individually as a thrower, he didn't really put the ball into harm's way beside that screen pass that was just a great play by the defensive lineman. And then like we mentioned, even though it was ugly the first three quarters, what he did in those final five minutes was, you know, nothing short of spectacular. So I don't think this guy is falling or the league has completely figured out Jayden Daniels in terms of what he can do on the football field. I think a lot of times when he is taking off, he's still surprising defenders with how fast he is. The arm strength is still there. And like I said earlier, I don't think that he suddenly has this accuracy issue. It was not a problem at LSU. And in the first two months of the season, it's just that he's not getting more out of those throws that were the five yard passes that were going for 15 yards like he did in the first two months of the season. So what are you seeing from what's being taken away? I guess in other words, you know, tape, tape gets out. Defense coordinators get paid too, obviously really smart football players are there looking like they understand what Kingsbury and company want to do. So what's what's available that he's missing? I mean, you see where I'm kind of getting at, right? Where it's I'm going to watch in the ship sink and I'm going, is there anything we can do? We're just going to sort of go down and like Terminator two style with the thumbs up heading into the lava. Like what are we doing? Yeah, I know. Good point. That's a good visual too. I think middle of the field at that 10 to 19 yard range that kind of the analytics department or the analytics industry would call the intermediate level. So many of those dig routes where you would get a vertical from the slot and then a dig right in behind it, whether that was Noah Brown, whether that was Terry McClellan, teams are taking that away. They're thinking that, you know, one of those two off ball linebackers to kind of take that throw away down the field. We haven't seen it. I mean, certainly we saw the 86 yarder kind of in in desperation mode against the Cowboys, but early on there was three or four early in the game deep strikes down the field where you're still getting like what I think Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen and Justin Herbert get a lot of that too high safety shell where they're saying, yeah, we're going to let you complete it underneath. And like I mentioned earlier, when they were 10th in the league in Yak, they were taking those over the middle slant, RPOs, comebacks, shallow crosses and they were turning into positive games. They were moving the football. They were moving the sticks. You know, they had what was it? So many drives in a row that were that were not punting the football or they were scoring points on like every drive for a couple of games. Teams down the field and at the intermediate level, those chunk plays haven't really been there as frequently. We've seen deckers still produce a lot of those touchdown late in games over the last three weeks. And C two has kind of been taken away from being that rhythmic guy early in games over the middle for Jane Daniels, Chris Trappasso of CBS sports. I guess we'll go a full circle here in the final 30 seconds or so. But if you were the GM of the bears and there was a redraft today, Daniels goes one or is would you not say that? Oh, that's tough because again, I, I'm very fortunate that I have this unique perspective of watching all these quarterbacks. The last few weeks, Caleb Williams has played some really, really good football too. And the arm talent is there, the ability to escape defenders also there. I would still probably say that Daniels goes one because what I think is kind of a sneaky point that we've been mentioning here, the scrambling ability of Daniels is ahead of Caleb Williams. He is just a faster, more explosive athlete. We knew that coming out. I think anything that Caleb Williams can do as a passer, Daniels can do as well. But when it comes to, Hey, turning the corner, Caleb Williams, pretty athletic to maybe run seven, eight yards, Jane Daniels can turn the corner and turn it into a 30 or a 40 yard gain. So I think that's the difference between the two going from college and then what we've seen so far in the NFL. Chris, great with us. Man. Awesome. Peace is always in. Appreciate the time. Thanks guys. Yeah. Go read it. It's fantastic. CBS sports is where you can find Chris Trappasso's work. And Danny on the fan. Next, we're going to be joined by a member of the Fairfax County School Board. There is a ongoing and seemingly ever developing, so much what's in terms out of Hayfield High School, which is over in the Alexandria area in Virginia, where a coach and allegedly two dozen players followed him to Hayfield so that they could go try to win a state championship. He'd won the last two state titles at another school of Freedom Woodbridge. Well, 80 based on some leak text messages we now know knew about the plan. Sounds like maybe the principal did as well. He's the one that just pulled them out of the playoffs after they were banned, then put back in the playoffs. They won in the first round. Now we're into the second round of the playoffs and the playoffs have to be sorted out again. It's just been a mess. We'll talk to the a school board member at a Fairfax who's got some intel for us next on G and D. Welcome back to G and D. Thanks to Earl Forsey for the update. It's not very often we talk about prep sports on this show, but there was a story that caught our attention a couple of weeks back that we've actually logged a lot of time on and that is the controversy in high school football out of Hayfield High School where a state championship level coach who has a ton of success on the field, one of the most decorated and accomplished coaches in high school football in the last few decades based on the programs he's put together came to Hayfield was followed by and or recruited right allegedly maybe upwards of two dozen players. That was the big debate where they recruited weren't they were rules broken and so we talked about this quite a bit, but it's been a fiasco where initially nothing happened. The superintendent in Fairfax suggested that she had done an investigation, but didn't show any of her work and said everything was fine. Well, since we last spoke about this a few days ago, text messages have been leaked via the media and a journalist where we now know that the athletic director, new to some extent that everything wasn't on the up and up. He's taken a leave of absence and I believe has since been terminated, it sounds like. The principal at this point has removed Hayfield from the playoffs. So even though the VHSL tried to Fairfax County stood with Hayfield got them back into the playoffs on this judge ruling, they're back out of the playoffs and everything is thrown up in the air again for the remaining teams. And so to get more on what's going on now and how we got here, we've got a member of the Fairfax County School Board, Mateo Dunne on the show. Mateo, thanks for the time. We appreciate it. How are you? I'm doing well trying to, you know, escape from the never ending scandal. I mean, it is unbelievable. So let's just go back to when you first heard about it and how is it possible that with all of this happening and the investigation being done by the superintendent in Fairfax County, it wasn't really until the final week of the season that a punishment was handed down that ended up getting reversed anyway. But the reason that everything got so screwed up was that nobody acted until the very end and now we've gone back and forth on the punishment. What took so long? You know, there are more questions and answers here and I have to say while, you know, there are many great things that have been accomplished under the superintendent, this scandal has been handled fairly and competently from the get go and, you know, there were rumblings as early as February when this coach was hired that there was something amiss, right? I mean, the football community is a small community and people tend to talk and we see from these text messages that the athletics director was indeed talking to people freely disclosing his plans, right? So it wasn't exactly a well-planned conspiracy by all reports and then we had no action taken really until the summer. So why did SCPS wait so long to start a serious investigation? We don't know. And then when it finally did, you know, as a matter of course routinely, SCPS hires outside law firms all the time for matters of much smaller scope and magnitude, but here you have what might be the biggest local sports scandal and Fairfax County history, maybe the history of the Commonwealth and you have 31 kids coming from other schools to Hayfield and we don't hire an outside law firm. We try to do it in-house but here's the thing, we don't have an in-house detective agency. We don't have any capacity or expertise or experience to do an investigation of this magnitude and so what was done was floppy, slapdash really thrown together at the last minute. And was that the superintendents doing? Michelle Reed or why did it happen that way? That was a decision for the superintendent. You know, I called in August for an outside investigation because when she finished her investigation, it was so sloppy that I said, you know, there's no credibility here. I heard from my constituents and I said, "We need to bring in an outside law firm to really get to the bottom of this and make recommendations how to fix this before we get too far into the football season." But my motion lost nine to three and there was just too much deference to the superintendent. And now here we are with new allegations, new revelations like hour by hour, day by day and we seem to be in a tailspin and so that's why I and two of my colleagues yesterday called for an independent investigation that's also been called for by the City of Fairfax School Board and it's been called for almost universally by our constituents. We need to know what the facts are and chart a new course forward because I've even called for the superintendent and her legal counsel to be recused from the investigation because I just have a complete loss of confidence and her ability to navigate our way out of this scandal. So there's a lot that's crazy to me about this. So I almost said the craziest part. I don't know that you can rank those, as you said, new twists and turn every day. The initial report, it seems like there wasn't much interest in finding anything out. I don't know if you're a movie fan, but it reminds me of the naked gun where Frank Dravid is in front of the burning building with all the explosions saying there's nothing to see here and everyone was supposed to buy that when everybody with half a brain could see that something was at best the most unusual thing you'd ever seen in local high school football going all the way back to the springtime to your point. Why? What's the motivation? That's the part I don't quite understand as to why, you know, the information or whatever was coming forward or coming out, people didn't seem to be interested in that at the superintendent and school board level. Your thoughts there? You know, I have said since the beginning that there are two facts that are irreconcilable. One is we have 31 players transfer from other schools to Hayfield and while it's true that for decades there have been one or two players transferring at a time, there have been rule violations in the past, there's a difference between one or two and then 31 that's driving a truck through the loophole, not just, you know, starting around the edges. So that's one fact. And the second thing is the conclusion that the superintendent reached that there's nothing wrong with that, right? As you said, common sense should have guided us from the beginning that when an internal investigation that sloppy slapdash finds there's nothing wrong with that, well, the only conclusion is there's something wrong with the internal investigation or if, you know, people say it looks like a cover-up and at this point, you know, if it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, maybe it is a duck. I mean, I'm always hesitant to call it conspiracy or cover-up, but what else can we call it at this point when we're unwilling to open the door, let in some sunshine and have an impartial third party come in and tell us what's what, to interview relevant witnesses, look at relevant documents and make recommendations, how we can restore the integrity of our athletics program and rebuild public trust in our FCPF leadership. Mateo Don is a school board member in Fairfax County joining us on Grant and Danny. We found out yesterday a field was pulling itself from the playoffs and I have that correct, right? This was not that the superintendent actually after the text messages came out said, oh, well, now there is a bit of a smoking gun here. We're going to do something about this. The principal actually made the decision, correct? I don't think the principal would have made the decision without the approval of the superintendent. That's not how our school system works. So you think that the approval of is different though than her saying you should do this? How do you think it happened that they're out of the playoffs? I think the superintendent made that decision. There's no way that that principal made that decision after everything that happened previously. I don't have any reason to think that he's only going to try to back his way out of a scandal that really started under his leadership and by his decisions. So as far as the future goes, like there are people listening right now and for the record, I don't agree that this happens everywhere because I can't find and don't think there's ever been one case of a coach bringing 30 players or whatever the number was in one off season to a program to kind of build a champion, right? You see players transfer in to be quarterbacks at power programs all over the Commonwealth. I know very specific to Fairfax County where the laws and the rules are you either live near the school or you don't go there. But with sports, there are transfers. There are people that come and go from different programs one at a time. And there's even this idea that, you know, if I want to go to a theater school and I'm a theater kid, I can transfer and do that, but I'm not supposed to athletically. What do you say to those people that argue that? And also, how do we clean this up going forward? Obviously, there's not going to be another school probably brazen enough to try to have an entire new starting lineup, but there are kids that do this year in and year out going from one school to another. And I'm in full agreement. Let me be clear. You know, there have definitely been rule violations in terms of one season to these, right? But I'm not aware of any other scandal in our history where 31 have, you know, almost, you know, half or more of an entire football team have tried to transfer not just in one season, but in one month, it'll happen within a few weeks and April of 2024. It's just, you know, the brazenness of it, as you say, is shocking. And where we are right now, we, you know, people say, oh, well, VHSL acted on the eve of the playoffs. Well, they were giving ample opportunity to FCPS to clean house, FCPS hasn't cleaned house, and so VHSL had to act and meanwhile you still have these rules that some people criticize as vague, but no one else had trouble complying with previously, right? So maybe we do need to clarify the rules just to say, hey, you can't do something that's blatantly illegal and also strengthen the enforcement regime. So we get VHSL to actually impose penalties, hold schools accountable on a more expeditious basis. But frankly, this is something that FCPS should have cleaned up last spring far in advance of football season. There's no reason that we should have delayed until now trying to hold that director of student athletics accountable, and we'll see what other heads roll in the coming days. So Mateo, I'm a Fairfax County resident and my children go to Fairfax County schools. And here's a part of it that I care about, I think, a lot more than most folks do, okay? Just for example, the school where my kids are, there are too many classes and trailers. They could probably use a little bit more floor space or, you know, another roof or an expansion of some kind, but I don't think that's unique to us. What I don't like seeing is what looks to me, and whatever word I have to use to excuse it or to don't get sued, is made up jobs for parent boosters or people that are in very cozy with this coach who gets an extra security guard salary that, again, doesn't seem to be like that may not be requiring all that many hours in the day, always setting up a million football camps. And then these cash app donations to be part of the football program, where's the accounting on that? That sort of stuff to me reeks of shadiness at best to be the most kind. And I know everyone's concerned about the recruiting element of things, and that's fine. But to me, I'm kind of going, we should be talking more about this part, your thoughts there. Well, you know, one of the most disturbing things that were in those text messages that were published in the newspaper the other day, to me, was when that athletics director said, "I want to win, and I want to make money." And that caught my eye because I said, "He's an FCPF employee. He doesn't get a cut of the gate. How does he make money?" And we can all speculate, is it like a gambling situation? Is it like a boxer taking a dive in the third round, or is it a situation where he's going to get a cut of some corporate sponsorship? I don't know the answer to that, but it raises a lot of questions. And there are no good answers at this point, which is really why we need an independent investigation, because as you said, there are just more questions and answers, and we need to get to the bottom of this. So we can restore the integrity of our athletics program, which really is an important part of our schools, but we need to focus on providing world-class education, not in trailers, as you said, but in permanent school buildings, so that every kid can realize their potential. And right now, we're failing in that mission, because all we can talk about day in day out is this scandal, which is of ever-growing proportions, going from what was a very local news story to now national, right? Mateo, we've been trying to get people to talk on the record about this for a couple of weeks. We appreciate you turning our call and coming on the show, that the people willing to speak about it on all ends of the parties here are few and far between. So thank you. It's my pleasure. Have a great day. You got it. It's Mateo Don, who's a school board member in Fairfax County, joining us on Grant and Danny to his credit. He called back at the beginning of the school year for a full investigation independently into this that just documented it. Yeah, wouldn't sign this blind letter support? And he got voted down like 9 to 2. Absolutely. He's like, wait a second. There's no one showing their work. We have no idea what she did. She's not an investigator. Like, why is this good enough for everyone? That was the NFL, is the equivalent of the NFL or a report that, yep, everything's fine with Dan Snyder Company. And if they were to listen to him, maybe that the outcome would have been better for everyone. And I mean, everyone, because now you've got kids that did things the right way at Hayfield that are getting screwed. You've got, I mean, the two plays, the three tonight, Lake Braddock plays West Springfield and the four Fairfax, meaning seeds, is now getting a buy until the final to come out of this little region here. So the two versus the three, the better teams beating each other up then short week play the four who gets a buy because Hayfield's booted. I mean, everybody has lost every which way the entire time. The kids have been really on the wrong end of this 806361067, I believe we've actually got a parent of a Hayfield player who wants to join us in just a couple of moments. But what do you guys make of what you just heard from the school board member and, you know, where we're headed in high school sports, what was Hayfield not getting to compete in the postseason, a step toward maybe a future where there's less of a transfer portal at the high school level. And is that necessary? You're listening to the fan. Welcome back to GND on the fan at the top of the hour at six o'clock Dan or Lobsky on Jaden Daniels yesterday, went through the tape, had some observations. We'll let you know what he had to say about Daniels will play some of that audio for you. But we've been talking a lot about Hayfield. You know, they dominated everybody all year out, scored them 600 to 13. They were running a Dematha level program in a district where the teams are not on that level. You're simply not there. It's like a football district in terms of like the quality of play at that level division six. I think it is in the state and that they're like, let's, let's go run a good counselor, the math of there. And so they were just waxing the floor with everybody. They're told a week before the playoffs start. They're not going to be in the day of the playoffs by way of a judge. They get back in and now everyone's ready to play in the playoffs and a team that was a playoff team gets bounced and, you know, at the concession stand at like Braddock and all these places where they're planning for a game and to spend thousands of dollars on food. There's no game. Two hours later. It's just been a fiasco. Well, now Hayfield's back out of the playoffs and a parent, I believe, of one of the players on Hayfield joins us now, Chris and Alexandria. What's up, Chris? Hey, guys. How are you? Too bad for you. Very well. Thanks for the call. Listen, bottom line is this guy got hired to be recruited players and there's no doubt about it. They've been unbelievable students. They've been unbelievable people to kids that were here like my son. But what we need to understand, and I went to Hayfield, I graduated in 2001, had a kid early, no doubt about it, but people have been recruiting kids for a very long time in this district. It used to be a district that composed of Robinson Lake Braddock, Hayfield, Annondale, so on and so forth. But people have been recruiting for a long time, and yes, we turn a blind head to it. That's no doubt about it. And if you want to call them homeless, you want to call them whatever, these kids had nothing to do with it. And the fact that that school district board member, whatever it is, that we have a lot of questions for me as a parent. If you have a lot of questions, we shouldn't have been pulled out until you have all the answers. That's the bottom line. So I have a few questions for you, but so your son is on the team, yeah? He is. Okay. So first of all, I do want to say I do feel awful for the kids. It sounds like like your son that did nothing wrong. And even the kids, frankly, they came in that now don't get to play in the playoffs. I don't think they're the bad guys in the story. I think they're victims and I feel awful and I hope they're not dealing with there's a lot of media coverage and things, harassment and fair to anybody and people being untowardly toward them. But I guess my question to you is what lesson does that send and what is to prevent anyone from doing this in the future if they are allowed to go win a state championship? Because you said, well, this has been happening. There's a player here and a player there where somebody moves or has an address or whatever. It has never happened before that dozens of kids and a head coach come into a program, not like a pillar program, like a stone bridge where you're going or Madison baseball where you're going because they're the best in the area. But a program that's never won before to go win a championship. So let's say you're right that speeding happens and people go 75 and 80 miles an hour. Well, they're going 200 miles an hour. What should we do? Nothing. So let me give you an example of a program that has five players, five. Carol Lawson lived in the West Potomac district and played for West Springfield. She averaged over 40 points a game at West Springfield, her senior year. She benched 235 as a female. Tell me that that doesn't change a program. It does. But I'll tell you though, Chris, what my dad told me when I would fail a test and I'd say so to Jeff Howe. He'd say, I'm not Jeff Howe's dad. So my question is that was wrong and should have been dealt with. But right now, we didn't get dealt with this car. Right. It didn't. And that's wrong. But so we're just should do nothing now. Again, this is the most public opportunity. This is everybody's paying attention. What if they do nothing? Why wouldn't another school do the same thing next year? Do you think it's good for high school sports if teams keep doing this? It's the NIL following down. It's just flowing down. And if you don't get that, like it's how much can I take if you give me a hundred yards of a leash, I'm going to give you a thousand yards of a leash. They're going to try it until they get tested. Do I like it? No. My son didn't get to play this year because listen, those boys were ballers and I'm. They're so good. Yeah. They're great. Yeah. I'm going to do the sports and how do I teach my son? You got to work harder. That's that's the lesson I have to teach because this is where we are. But if you think that this is going to stop it, they're going to try another way. The NIL that we can pay players is just going to float down. We have to understand this is the new day when the NIL started in college sports. This is just. Chris, let me catch on super quick. I think you're probably right about the big picture and the grand scheme of things. There are rules written down. There were violations here. It seems. Right? So your big picture is probably right. That's not what we're dealing with right now though. Isn't it? Don't we have something on the books? And don't we have some pretty brazen nose thumbing at those rules? So nothing should happen. Well, no, I'm not saying nothing should happen. Something should happen. Obviously the AD has already been fired. Honestly, the principal should be fired. The principal acts like nothing is hurtful. It's on her watch. But at the end of the day, as the individual you interviewed last, we still have a lot of questions. Again, we're making decisions before all the questions are answered. That's all I'm saying. But I don't know. Are the questions ever all going to be answered in fairness? Well, we haven't done a full investigation, so. Well, so that that part, if you're pointing, ask me to get the back of the Fairfax County School Board and their heel dragging on this. I'm not going to. You're right. I've screwed it up there. That's a total screw up. That's 100% true. And to me, once you let this toothpaste out of the tube, I would have just let the guys play. And then I don't know what else to do about that. But to me, it was back in February when the violation started, that it should have been done. So I'm with you there. But there are no winners here to make. Before that, some of the violations I move for that students were in in September and October and November. There you go. That's where if you're going to call them violations and we'll see which ones are violations and which ones aren't, we'll see. Well, remember, several players got ruled ineligible initially based on the addresses not working, right? Right. So I mean, that is some evidence that, you know, at least initially it wasn't all done in a way where everyone had the right address. No. Again, you're not going to you're not going to catch me telling you that's not right or wrong. My son lives two miles away from the schools and I'm upset that he didn't get to play this year. But I also turn around and say how impressed I am with the kids that showed up that they went to class and they got good grades. I still wanted my son to play. Of course. We're not going to disagree on that point. But what I will tell you is these students, no matter where they're from, no matter they call themselves homeless, not homeless, they had a home, whatever. They let them start playing. You let them finish playing. And then you deal with it after the fact the way that they're flip-flopping. They let they let schools out of the playoff because they let Hayfield in. Totally. Sorry. Chris, I completely agree with you that when the season started and they did basically the superintendent was like, oh, we did an investigation. It's fine. So the week before for the VHSL to say they're out, then the day of for them to be back in, now for them to be out again, that's all ridiculous. The back and the fourth is, I think it's absurd. It's absolutely egregious. Yeah. The yo-yoing is ridiculous. I totally agree with you on that. But my point, my bigger point fellas is there were kids there that have been there and there are some seniors there that have been there for four years and you were taken it away from them. The only decision or no making decision, the wrong decision was made this week to pull Hayfield out. Once you put them in because the kids that were there have nothing to do with this because you screwed up because you kicked the ABS, that's all irrelevant. So, so I agree, Chris, let me say this real quick and we got to let you go in a minute. But I appreciate this. It's hard since you're the only reason we're keeping you so long is it's fascinating to chat with someone who's on the inside of this. The only thing I would say is I totally agree with your son and so many other kids there. The new kids, the old kids at Hayfield. This is not fair to them. But if they continued to play and just absolutely destroyed West Springfield and Lake Braddock and everyone else they played in their path, how is that fair to those other kids and what message is sent? Well, technically it's not fair, but at the same time for a five seed to have a bye is not fair either. Totally. Well, yeah, I think it's a four seed and nothing about we're not looking at fair anymore. Fair faxes, you know, fair faxes as they, oh, it's not fair they got a buy. They didn't bring in 30 kids, you know, if someone's getting screwed, it might be the team that violated the rules. Yeah, well, let's let's define violating the rules again. There's loopholes and everything. Let's define violating the rules before we define the rules. So you think everything that happened in the rules before? Do you think everything that happened was only up and up then? I'm not saying it was. Are they loopholes? Are they loopholes? Are they loopholes? Are they loopholes? Yeah. Appreciate the call. Oh, we're way late. We're going to get in trouble for being late, but thank you. We got to get to a break. Appreciate it. Great to hear from a parent who's in the thick of things. And again, I hope everyone's leaving the kids alone because they on all sides, you know, the hayfield kids, like this is not about them if I'm being frank, a G and D on the fan.