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Opinions While Black: Episode 299 - "The Tea Leaves"

This week, Oz and the Boys discuss how the culture treats Skai Jackson and other young celebrity women, the need for eclectic Black voices in podcasting and Drake taking on UMG in the wake of Not Like Us. Also, your listener letters and the Top 3 STFUs. Pour Up! Song of the Week: Sani Knight- "Dark Place"

Duration:: 2h 27m
Broadcast on:: 01 Dec 2024
Audio Format:: other

The following content wants that smoke, but is too old to go get the smoke. Let's start the show. You know it's going to be a good pond, and you're already messed up. Sometimes you're completely fine with the smoke, but your knees say otherwise. It's like no, no, no, I don't think I am, actually. Niggas plus information plus alcohol equals opinions while black. Your black ass cheat sheet for we can foolishness and fuckery, I and your boy Oz, I am Drizzy Drake's lawyer. Damn. Damn. It's unfortunate. I'll say you have a rough, you have a rough week. No, I'm getting paid. Nothing. I feel you. I'm getting paid to do nothing. Oh, fair enough. Yeah. Okay. Introduce yourself, sir. Me and the Diddy lawyers talk all the time about not doing no work and getting paid for. It's crazy. We're living our best lives right now. You know, they deny that niggas bail again. Yeah, because we're not putting in the work to get it. We know a supervillain belonging in jail. You think we're going to work against the state to get a supervillain out? He blew up someone's car, man. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Introduce yourself, Diggie. Oh, fuck. I am the fluid one. Oh, man. It is episode 288, 288. Damn. We moving along, bro. Hey, man. Hello. How's everybody doing, man? How's everybody's mental health? One to 10. What's going on? What's new? What's not? Whatever. I ate some food the other day. Yeah. How's it working out for you? That kind of Thanksgiving? Yeah, it required a lot of digesting. I appreciate it. That's awesome. I usually evade this question, but, like, you try. I'm realizing as of this week that I don't get enough sleep because since Sunday, I think, like, literally once the sun goes down and I've gotten my parents situated for the day, uh, I sit on my bed with the intention to watch all of the anime and I wake up in the sun is in my eye, damn, like being able to take something off my plate like work and just sit down for a week has been very eye-opening of how much, how much rest do you actually need? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I said yesterday. I am going to die early, bro. Nah, nah. You... Sorry. I don't get enough sleep, Doug. And it's not to say that, uh, I just realized I'm talking about this on the pod, damn. But, like, I don't know, man, like, I genuinely do not get enough rest, bro, and there aren't ways for me to manufacture it just yet. And my PCP has already told me, "Hey, man, how long are you trying to stay here? Let's work on getting a little more of that." I feel like there are some recreations that you partake in that would, that would, uh, that would, uh, help you get any more sleep. Nah. Oh, you know, it doesn't do that to you? Nah, man. Anything anything I participate in is to, um, exacerbate reflection because I find meaning in the nation. Mm-hmm. Okay. Just because I also bully my mental, so. I'll say I don't, I probably don't partake enough, but I, you know, there are, there are times when I work out regularly, regularly enough that I think I get a, I'm starting, I start to get a decent amount of sleep and when I'm, uh, I can tell when something's off when the, the sleep cycles are changing again in a way that's noticeable. Mm-hmm. Um, you mean like the sun retiring at five o'clock? Oh, I hate this time of year. I hate this time of year about that. I do. I hate this time of year because there are times when my body don't know the difference. Mm-hmm. And I fall asleep at an inappropriate time. I was, I was telling you, Von, about this briefly, right before you, uh, got here, there's kind of been this push for, like, I call them sad lamps and I forgot what the acronym stands for other than something being related to like a seasonal depression. It's like a seasonal anti-depression lamp and the idea is that it's kind of like, you know, one of like the daylight tuned lights, you know, so it's in that 5600 Calvin range. Yeah. But it's meant in a way where you, you would mount the lamp like buy your bed or somewhere else that's close to your face and you would just kind of either do some reading or other things like with the light in your face for about 30 minutes. And it's supposed to help your circadian rhythm be more balanced during the period where the sun is setting really low and makes it a little bit easier on your mood. It's kind of interesting because I've always heard that one reason people don't get as much sleep as they used to is because of like being affixed to screens, shit like that. And just the light, the ambient light from like screens and TVs or whatever. Well, that's, that's why you want to get away from that type of light and you want to get something that's more akin and it's the idea is the color spectrum is tuned more to like midness. Ah, it's a color spectrum. Okay. You're, you're wanting the light to be more like the sun since the sun has already gone down and then you're spending a little bit of time with that particular light. Okay, bet, bet, um, shout out to the new listeners. What the fuck are y'all doing here? They came to see the light. I would say y'all just, y'all tuned in the old niggas talking about, uh, sleep cycles and, uh, sad lights and shit, uh, god damn, uh, my bad titties. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, uh, shout out to the new listeners, shout out to the old listeners, shout out to the first times, the long times and the last times, shout out to all my niggas on, uh, sound cloud, Spotify, iHeart, Apple, uh, title in anywhere quality content is disseminated, uh, shout out to all my niggas on Patreon, y'all, y'all, y'all, y'all getting y'all's moneys work lately and we, we gonna finish the year strong. I tell you that right now, um, shout out to, uh, shout out to black snow, ran, ran into him picking up my, all the, the Thanksgiving fixings over at, uh, well, fuck it, they pay me, um, but, well known barbecue spot, um, can't keep the motherfuckers out of there. But ran the black snow, cornerstone of the poetry and beyond community. This man, this, boy, this, this man is a, is a real enterprise and motherfucking boy, I tell you that if he don't have his finger in one pie, he got it in another man. This man is, that's a man about town, bro. Sometimes you got a finger or pie. Sir. Huh? I thought I heard that correctly in my back. Um, he does have his finger in multiple pies, uh, shout out to finding, shout out to friends of the show and listeners that have followed me to blue sky, uh, what I'm congee, uh, always good to have a, a, uh, popular social media person, uh, on following you on your shit. Um, that's all my shout out to actually, um, tell me if I need a blue sky or not. Do you need one? I think you would, I think you would do the same shit you do, but you do on a, well, it's not as ratchet. So it's, what do you want to consume? I'll say do it. Do that. Do it. Do it. Okay. Okay. They got a, they got it. It's a growing anime following. Maybe, uh, maybe if there's like a, a cat meme account, honey, if, if congee's on there, there's, there's got, there's some anime following. Yeah. And if there's not the two, there will be one. Yeah. There's definitely a cat following, um, same reason why I haven't joined threads. I just haven't seen a reason to yet threads is a little, to me, I find a little more complicated. Um, I don't know, it's something, I don't avoid the bots. That's something. Oh, well no, don't go on threads, threads is all, you don't know who's who. It's, it's, it's, it's Blade Runner. You don't know, you don't know what you're walking into. Yeah. It's weird. When I get a message, it's like, I am people. How are you? No. What is, no, no, yeah, blue sky hasn't quite gotten there and, and, and, uh, the bots and the catfishes have gotten exposed pretty quickly. Um, who do I want to get flowers to? I had someone I wanted to get flowers to my mama. I always get flowers, flowers to your mom, your mom, your mom writes me every, every month. You know, I keep them all, your mom writes me every single month without fail. Got like a small cast that she likes to make sure her net reaches people. She just really fucks with I'm telling you, man, she, she is definitely in my, in my little box of letters, she is definitely left a legacy. Um, so shout out to her. Um, I did have somebody I wanted to get flowers to and I, and I thought I wrote it down and it's left me completely. Um, actually, you know what, I want to get flowers to, um, a friend of mine on, uh, on blue sky, uh, Nani, she's one of the few people that I, you know, I went into the blue sky cold because I didn't follow the big mass exodus. I went, when it was like by invitation, there are a few people that are actually entertaining funny people on, uh, Twitter that I fuck with that, that it, that it, when, when they leave, I'm leaving. There was somebody else I spoke about on, uh, Patreon that I kind of feel this way about. But like if they leave now, I know it's time and now I know I have no purpose here on Twitter. And I think I follow just about all of those people that I've crossed over from. I'm waiting on some people to make the change, but there are some people that just make us, that just make your social media experience better. They're just, they, they, they remind you that there are still human beings on that platform. Oh no. You know what I mean? Like they're like some, cause sometimes you just get caught up, you just not even get caught up, but just sometimes you be reading a lot of bullshit and you be like, this, this can't be people. This can't be people. Yeah. Somebody responds to it or responds to you responding to it and goes, and you, you are reminded that, oh okay, good. There are people, there are, there are some human, there are some rational human beings listening. Good. Right. Good. Don't believe it. Some. I said some, just some, uh, maybe not even a lie, but to all you people that keep finding on the alternate social, on the alternative social medias, um, I salute you. Truly flowers to you all actually hit you all with the air horns and a lot of them are listeners. Because I found, I found some new listeners, uh, I found a new, a couple of new listeners on threads, um, love the engagement by the way, y'all saying some of the most nuanced questions. I was saying y'all's question is, and it's, there's never an in between. There's never in between. It's either I have to, I have to show up and think or why are you asking me this and how high do I need to be, um, oh, I do have a human's ain't shit this week. What you got for humans ain't shit. Amen. Leave Skye Jackson alone, what does she do now, nothing, nothing. So the, the thing with Skye Jackson and whoever this weird niggas she, she's having a baby by is for those of you that don't know, Skye Jackson's one of these little Disney kids. I, that was not my era of Disney. So I can't tell you more than that. No, no, that's the other one. That's the other one that's about her same age. With the glasses. No, that's not her. Wow. I thought that was the same person. Your face blindness is showing. My youth blindness is showing because I don't look at kids. Um, fair enough, yeah, but so Skye Jackson is caught up with this. And she's having a baby by this nigga, um, who is like, he's, he's like a very ratchet version of DDG. Um, here's my thing because now everybody's getting into the, and when I say leave Skye Jackson alone, what I'm really talking about is how you niggas interact with some of these kind of former child star young women that are in that realm of adulthood. So she's having kind of a ratchet time with this nigga. She is, um, I think she caught an assault charge, uh, they were fighting somewhere. The police got involved, um, but they were like, it was, it was like an argument that it just kind of turned a little physical. Uh, I don't want to paint the picture that she was just terrorizing this man. Even though, you know, you know, you shouldn't be hitting nobody regardless. But my problem with how Skye Jackson is handled is a lot of my problem with how y'all handle these young women, which is a lot of you, a lot of you kind of deputize yourselves as the aunties and uncles. And it's so weird that y'all start dragging and be mad at the person that y'all claim, that y'all claim y'all are, y'all are concerned about out of love. But y'all being twice as mean to them as the partner that they chose, as y'all, as y'all are to the partner. Like when, like that shit with Hally, with, with Hally Bailey and DDG, hey man. She's young. She chose what she, she was like, she's at her twenties. She's at her early twenties. She chose what she perceived to be a popping nigga. I went to college with some of y'all. Y'all did the exact same shit. Some of these niggas, some of these people thought that, that Bill Cosby was a good guy. Well, be going to sun. I'm just saying. So just because you have your perspective of what you think is an appropriate dating partner. Well, not, but you don't really know these niggas, but not even that because I understand the assumptions they're making about Sky Jackson's nigga, because it's not one of these things where he's just acting hard, but he from the suburbs. This niggas, I forgot, I can't even pronounce his name. That's the real rational disease that you can't even pronounce that name. He is a niggas niggas, like he, he caught a couple charges. Like they met, like they, they basically started a relationship as prison pen pals. Okay. I didn't know that was even still a thing. And, and my problem, my problem with the way y'all handled it, because y'all be, because y'all be mad at who they choose, even before you know anything about him. Y'all didn't like when Hallie chose DDG, just because y'all perceived that she was more important than him, or that because she had the following that she had, she needed to be with someone who was on that level, which I don't even know who y'all would pick for her in that regard, like what a Michael B. Jordan or some shit. So y'all already make these assumptions going in, because y'all made these assumptions that DDG was just a nobody ass ratchet niggas, but he's actually more of a wholesome square ass, wholesome square suburban ass nigger to me. He is, like he, like he kind of geeky dog, like the, the niggas guy Jackson is where, is where I get a little bit of the frustration, but I think sometimes, I think sometimes y'all be dragging the women for being with these niggas, because it's easier to be an auntie, it's easier to pretend that you're an auntie and uncle to these women, usually to these women, because y'all don't have, because y'all don't never have the same energy for these young men that get in with the, that choose the wrong woman, because I don't see, I don't see anybody treating Jalen Brown the same way, and Dre is like 40, but to my point, sometimes I think y'all deputize yourselves as the aunties and uncles that are just concerned, but y'all end up being meaner to them, then y'all think the, the person in their life is, and I think a lot of it is because y'all don't know how to auntie and uncle your own relationships and your own lives, so it's easier to just make assumptions about famous people, about famous young people that you don't know, and just assume because you've internalized that Disney shit, that you have to infantilize them like a Disney princess, because y'all did the same shit with Simone Biles, when y'all swore her nigga was just a scum of the earth, and didn't Simone Biles say he stay out of my relationship? And Simone Biles told y'all to mind your fucking business and y'all got mad, y'all did the same shit with Kiki Palmer, now that shit was kind of warranted actually, I take that back, that was warranted because that nigga put his hands on her, yeah, I take that back, I was warranted, that nigga put his hands on her, but then y'all turned around and got mad when they, y'all thought they reconciled because she says she only has minimal contact with him now, but y'all infantilized her because y'all grew up with that internalized child version of her in your head, y'all did that same shit with Simone Biles, y'all did that same shit, and as a matter of fact, y'all did that shit with Chloe Bailey, except that was stupid, because Chloe and who, so, and again, it's just projection, it's just dumb projection, so Chloe was talking about the new Kendrick album and how she grew up as a big Kendrick fan, and she was saying on her life, she was like, there was a time, I thought I was gonna be with Kendrick, you know, that kid, you know, that kid crush shit, yeah, man, I swore we were supposed to be together, I loved Kendrick, I knew every line of all his shit, and just, she was, you could tell, she was a fan, she was a group on a pop and nigga, if you saw her at the pop out show and, yeah, she was live as fuck, she was a regular person in the stands, you know, regular fan, and so, everybody, and so, niggas took that too far and decided that that was her shooting her shot at a married man, Kendrick's married, yeah, yeah, oh, yeah, that was the importance of having her in the Not Like Us video, yeah, when they've been with Kendrick since before he was popping, like, I think it's just like high school, and they took it as, oh, she was shooting, that was her shooting her shot, no, that was a fan fanning out, and y'all took it to the next level because y'all are, because y'all tried, and that's my thing, y'all are not in a position to onto your uncle nobody because of the toxicity y'all internalized because, just because if it was one of you niggas, that's what you would do, that's what you would do, just because if you saw a married popping nigga, you would be on that type of time, or if you were, or if you yourself were a popping nigga, you would probably throw it all away for Chloe Bailey, which, moving on, see, sometimes niggas just tell on themselves, I'm not married, so I tell them on shit. I'm not, I'm just saying, I, I, I give it, look, what's, what's, you don't have to say anything, oh, I'm saying, dog, is y'all can give these women, y'all can give these young women some type of grace, and I would be willing to give y'all grace about it if, if the end result weren't always so mean-spirited, and a lot of it is why these young people don't fucking listen to y'all, because there's a lot of mean-spirited, bad faith, I would listen to you niggas either, I went to college with some of you niggas, I know not to listen to y'all. It was a poet who performed the other night when I was at Thanksgiving, and he literally has an entire poem basically about fuck you old heads, because y'all say a bunch of mean-shit, you ain't even popping the way you think you are, you're walking around entitled. A lot of mean- I'm with him, I'm with him, I want to hear that poem, a lot of, a lot of bad-faith-shit that y'all disguise as tough love, that y'all disguise as I'm just, you know, I'm just trying to be a mentor, a mentor don't have to roll like that. Yeah. And a mentor understands that young people are going to make mistakes, young people are going to get involved with the wrong motherfucker sometimes, y'all, y'all all did it. Not me, I have a perfect track record. The question is, do they have a perfect track record in you? That's the real question. You don't get to say that, you don't get to say that when you're the menace fluid. Wow, wow, I feel like y'all are getting involved. I would say what, please, please, the floor is short. Yeah, so I really think, and again, I never have a problem with people trying to mentor, I never have a problem with people trying to impart a little wisdom onto the youth, but I think sometimes y'all got to check a little bit at a little bit at hurt, a little bit at old hurt and a little bit at ego at the door before you do. I mean, that goes back to something we were saying on Patreon. Again, I really do think that those state guardsmen are just kind of falling privy to feeling entitled by their time a certain subject saying, you're going to listen to me because I've got time in here. This is what I do, boy, or person or whatever. Right, in a real elder, yes, has some of that experience and has that those achievements under their belt, but a real elder in a community capacity, to bring you earned respect. They understand that achievements and experience alone ain't enough to earn respect. You have to earn the respect and trust of the people that you want that you want to impart the wisdom to because all that shit don't mean nothing if they don't trust you. And if they don't trust you to do that work for yourself and leave some of that ego at the door, I'm not saying that anybody has to show up perfect. But when someone checks some of that at the door and checks themselves in the process, usually you can tell. So I just leave that girl alone. The girl is, I mean, now if it's an abusive situation, which so far, I don't think it is. And again, from what I understand of the cops picking her up on that assault shit, it sounds like a regular argument that was made public that just kind of got out of hand. Someone can correct me on this, which happens all the time, especially with people that look like us. It's always assumed that something happening in public with us is turning a violent or ratchet way. I sneezed on it. So I don't want to throw anybody under the bus. You see what sneezed once. No, I'm not, I'm not using the button for that. I mean, because then he was, he was seen as a terrorist. I got you, got you, got you. Okay, fair enough, fair enough. So I think y'all have to walk into these situations and speak to each other and speak to the people you're trying to help and treat them a little better because y'all be wilding, y'all are wilding, especially. I've never, I've never been okay with how y'all did Simone Biles. That was nasty. No matter how much you didn't like that nigga and what he said, that can all be debated. But y'all treated her worse than y'all assumed that he was treated her. Oh, oh, oh, you want us to mind your business? You want us to mind our own business? Well, fuck you then. Well, fuck you then. Don't come to us when he go upside your head. Yeah, all he did was go on a podcast and say I'm the prize dog. It was a long rabbit hole to get to abusive. Maybe y'all got to come. And I'm not saying that they're, I'm not saying that everybody's necessarily all the way wrong because we have seen where sisters see the signs. And if people had taken the Kiki Palmer situation a different kind of serious, maybe somebody actually could have been avoided. But every situation ain't that. And you really have to take your time because yes, yes, these people are still human beings. I think it's all I'm saying. And and and and also y'all just y'all got to get over that that Disney shit because that's a lot of what's affecting and clouding your judgment. Oh, you think they're supposed to that they're supposed to remain Disney children or whatever. Well, they've internalized how they saw them growing up. Got it. Oh, and they think the character is a real person. And they've internalized that even if they don't know it and makes them kind of a naturally extra protective. Yeah, you're being protective of your nostalgia. And y'all got to know when to be protective of in those situations. Now, granted, like old now to like going back to your point, old girl that you confuse Sky Jackson with, Marseille Martin from a grownish or blackish. Yeah. Now, y'all definitely need to have some community hands on her. Not her. She she hasn't done anything in particular, but it was some nasty niggas out here. I don't know how old she is now, but I and I never watched blackish. So I didn't have that experience with her, but I know there was some niggas out here a while in. I'm doing that Millie Bobby Brown shit waiting for her to turn a certain age and some shit. I seem to I seem to recall, like I said, I don't know how old she is now, but I remember I do remember that when she was under age, there was some nasty niggas out here. She's such a weird practice. That is so odd dog. Like you just you don't know your own kid birthday, but you know hers? I damn. The fuck? You know, I was watching one of one of those street interview things where they'd be asking when they'd be asking them if they knew they girls birthday or if they knew what their job title was at work and some shit and they just they would not know. I always think those things are hilarious because in my family, it's the exact opposite. I'll say my everybody's like that in my family. My my mama don't remember none of my friends names, but my dad know everybody. He be asking about their parents, yadda yadda yadda or whatever. But it was the most funny thing for us growing up was there was one friend and my mom really just couldn't stand like at all, but she would confuse her name with another girl in the group. So every time we brought up the other girl, my mom would have something slick to say about it and they'd be like, Bob, that's not who we talking about. She's oh, oh yeah, my bad. People tell on you who they secretly hate a lot of those conversations and fuck Bobby, mama, we weren't even talking about them. That's that's giant. Oh shit for real still. And my thing is always those videos always kind of focus on the dudes and again, it's just another general worst thing to get people mad because women don't be always always remember shit either. I know Tristan for the only time the only reason Tristan knew my birthday had passed is because she knew it was in September and it was October 1st. I missed your birthday didn't I? Yes, she did. Oh, well happy birthday. Okay, thanks Tristan. All right. Oh, look, I've started writing people's birthdays down in calendars and because I have my calendar on the front, now I get this little. It's so and so's birthday. And so I'm getting better this year because, you know, for a couple of decades, I've been bad at knowing when people's birthdays are. Welcome, song of the week. The fuck song of the week is fuck your birthday. Um, I discovered this one last. This is called Dark Place by Sandy Knight. Okay, he really minted it. Pour yourself something, get comfortable. Promise you this titty. We're gonna have a we're gonna have a good part. We'll be back with more opinions while black. Let's go. [applause] [applause] [music] [applause] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] [applause] [applause] [applause] I actually, I corrected fluent wrongly. That did have some weekend vibes. Some titty music elements. That was more like strip club element to me. That's that public titty in your face. Well, it's kind of, it's kind of been the same family. And we're three years seeing an ariolo while this song is playing? Or pasty. Or pasty, definitely. Like depending on what era of the week you listen to, he is definitely considered, I forgot who, I think that was Ryan Gabriel who says calls it haunted strip club music. That laugh is just validating why I do not support local strip clubs. The mere fact that I could pay a covered charge going somewhere and still have clothes on. It's crazy. Pasties are on clothes. Pasties are clothes. No, they're covering. They are covering. They are covering. Let's just a pasty in the color of your ariola in which case you might have shown your ariola. Then, yeah, okay, there's an argument for that. Otherwise, it's like a strapless bikini top. It's like having coconut sauce. Well, that's riveting. I definitely wanted to. Mike's not. We're just having a difference of opinion. I get it. I get it. I get it. I definitely wanted to make a correction as it turns out. Well, not a, well, not a correction, but it was more like a development. You know, last, last week, we, we thought we were bidding a fond farewell in the conventional sense to the horrible decisions podcast. As it turned out, so and I don't know if they meant to bury the lead or they just were not communicating, either would not surprise me. But when they said they were saying goodbye to this chapter of the journey, basically they're going patreon exclusive, which is a big deal because they're getting rid of their like their main free show. And you can only find them if you're a patron. It's less content that they have to work on. Supposedly, so because supposedly they'll still be doing that regular show. What? So they're going to keep the content, making it all just moving it all to patreon. In addition to whatever it is you get already as a patron. Got it. I still have my theories on what's happening over there. I don't, I don't want to get too deep in the weeds just with a tin foil hat. But I will say that that is a big move too, because last I checked, I don't think they're the only ones that are trying to drive the focus towards patreon. Last I checked, I think Kevin stage has a podcast where it's they have not said it. But as he's going back on tour, it sounds like they're moving towards moving people towards the patreon. Like the show you hear seems to be only part of it and you can get the full thing on patreon. Because I saw a clip, I didn't know he had this podcast. I thought he had this and then I think he had like one with his wife maybe. I don't know. I could have swore talking about the one like him and Tony. No, no. Okay. He has that. There you go. He has that. But then he has another podcast with another comedian with a female comedian. Oh, good. And I thought he had one with his wife, but I must be mistaken. But I saw a clip from it going around on IG. And I was like, oh, I gotta, I gotta look that up. That's, that's kind of funny. And it was patreon exclusive. And when you look them up on the streaming service, it's like, it's like, it's like kind of a short thing, like, like an hour or less. And they, you know, at the beginning, in the middle, they keep driving you to the patreon. And I guess I'm to assume the full episode or the full session of that recording is on patreon. I see some people, and it's probably if I really think about it, some other podcasters that have been slowly making that move to patreon. And that's important to keep in mind. In my opinion, and this, because I was, I was talking about this on blue sky, actually, about how we need eclectic, dynamic, reasonable black voices, we're going to need that more in the coming four years, just in terms of media and communications. And I don't blame everyone. I don't blame the people, but there are some people that are that in this landscape do not want to expose themselves to just raw dogging America the next four years. So they are heading for the paywall. They're heading for the shelter. They're, they're building their, their shelters out back. And they're heading for the hills and just kind of, and just kind of getting behind where the money is at. Because they, because they found that that the money is going to be there regardless. Joe button has been playing with this a little bit. I never want to just make a podcast about what other podcasts are doing, but I think this is important. Joe button knows he has the patrons money, no matter what happens on the other side. He's curated and experienced behind the paywall that feels like rarefied air and you regular and you regular free show niggas can do whatever the fuck you want. And I know this now because some big shit will happen where everybody where everybody will jump on social media in at least hip hop culture and go, damn, I know, man, I know Joe button about the, I know Joe button about to talk about this shit, or I know he's gonna have to make excuses for this shit, or I know he's gonna say whatever he has to say. And if it's big enough, they'll take the regular episode like if we were doing like this is what, uh, 288? Yes, sir. They will just put 288 behind the paywall. Not say shit about it. And just do 289 back free. Like nothing happened. We would never do that. We would never ever ever do that. That is to me, that is nasty work. I was supposed to say that just feels like dirty work, man. And it feels like you're just it feels like a false way of building hype. Fuck your listeners. That's crazy to me. That is great. Now don't get me wrong. I do understand like for a while we were, I had pre-recorded content for Patreon. I remember, I remember when we started, when me and Randall started Patreon and he knew he was about to step down, we spent the next three months having a Patreon night, sometimes two a week, where we would, we would cook and do two episodes and do two extra Patreon episodes a week. So we would have pre-recorded stuff ready to go out to ask that means no matter what's happening, if we're on break, whatever the patrons are good. Yeah, but setting up bonus content. Right. So you that's and that's just establishing that your paid people are going to be good. Even though our patrons are very understanding when they know we need to take a break, when they know there's been a hurricane, whatever happens. We had a lot of content. That was a lot of hard work and we had a lot of content stored up. I don't work unique as like that because y'all have lives. But I get that. But taking some, taking the expected, the audience that made you, that built you, taking that audience and prioritizing and saying these paid people are more important than you. And they get the benefit of us. And they get the benefit of us. And they get the benefit of something that everybody was getting. In that way, it sounds crazy. But I see it's another version of Niggas trying to I'm talking to my community. Niggas trying to batten down the hatches because they see it coming. They see the storm coming. And I honestly, I get it. I don't agree with it. Because, amen, we have to take these platforms more seriously now because we have to hold more markers than we're holding. And what I mean by that is the landscape is changing. If you didn't notice, if you didn't notice by now, the landscape for the internet, the landscape for communications, the landscape for social media is changing in a way that is not going to favor us. And I know there, and there are some people that are, they're trying to get their VPNs in order and have all of this content outside of these streaming sources on their own website, which is awesome too. If you can do that, I don't know how. You know, if you have, I've kind of looked at into it, but I don't know. If you have a VPN set up, then you can change your location outside of Texas. Oh yeah, that's true too. I used to outside this country. Oh, that's how that's how your niggas are cheating getting poured hub in Texas. I see it now. That's not what I said. I know it's not what you say. But I see these niggas cheating. What can you put on? So, but I say all that to say, this podcasting shit is about to become more important. And I see that because I see there are people that want you to not take podcasting seriously. All the jokes about throw the podcast mics away. All the jokes about, oh, make all the podcasts mics super expensive, because we need plumbers or whatever. Hey, man, first of all, let me just say, come 2025. We might not have a choice in how expensive this technology shit gets, especially with a 20% tariff. I was saying, with that tariff, we about to not have a choice. I'm so bad because I because I want a PS5 so bad. I know that bitch is about to be through the roof. And as it is, I haven't seen a whole lot of price cutting on that shit as it is. I know that that's coming. What they're about to start charging you $1 billion. I was about to say PS5. You know, but because you know, by now, the life of like the PS4 by now, we would get they would get the hella price cuts. And it was already hard to find the first two years. Yeah, that shit makes me mad, mad, mad. But yeah, first of all, we're we're about to not have a choice technology about to be hiding the bitch, especially the amount of technology that we outsource technology about to be stupid expensive. So Christmas is about to be crazy. I'm going to say, because I'm doing one more upgrade on tech, and then that should go into the last. I'll bra I'm so mad about this fucking phone, this fucking phone. Y'all don't know. America, my phone has been through the fucking meat grinder. My Uber driver ran this bitch over. Damn. And the shit was face down. So but yeah, bro, if there's anything you need to replace just on a side note, go ahead and do it, go ahead and do it. Treat yourself and treat yourself before before this thing gets worn in. Um, that part, because shit about to get rough out here. So that's one. You got 51 days. I don't say so that's one. Two. Eclectic black voices are about to get so important. And so instead of I don't understand this thing that we get into with technology in particular, because I think some people have the same idea about social media that was social media was a mistake. Social media is technology. Podcasting is technology. It's a form of communication, both of them are forms of communication. So instead of focusing on a strong away technology and somehow that will make the community better. Ludites. Why don't we embrace the why don't we embrace the technology and decide that people need to be better? People are going to because people are going to be the flaw in anything. I actually work with a ludite and we traveled together and I got an opportunity to stop. This is somebody that identifies as a ludite. No, like legit. She's like so serious about that shit. Oh my God. Very anti technology, right? Okay. She's older by maybe 15, 17 years. So it kind of is on brain why she doesn't fuck with technology. But I was just I was so fascinated, right? Because we're flying on technology. We're staying amongst the electricity, which is technology. You need technology to communicate back home to your family. So I was like, what is where it is like this? Right. There's technology that sustains life. Yeah. So it's like, so where is this this anti this to it coming from? And she was like, simply put, I feel like I'm at a point where it just would take too much work for me to do the work to catch up with how to use it properly. And it's not that that annoys her, but it's like, and that makes me a little anxious interacting with it because I know that I'm never interacting with it as best as I could. But I'm not going to interact with it as best as I could because I'm not going to invest the work to get to learn how to do it the best I'm supposed to. And I thought that was a wild hot take. Is she kind of around our age? No, no, again, she's like almost two decades older than us. So I was like, so it is on brand that you feel that way. But that's still a wild as hot take, right? Like so much is happening around you that you then don't get to really appreciate because of that standpoint. And you're okay with the not knowing of it. I don't know, like, I was like, man, I don't get that. So there are people out there that I like that, bro. And I want to come back now. I'm going to come back to that because that's interesting. It was fascinating. But I feel like we get into this mode kind of like that where we decide to throw the baby out with the bath water because I understand where some of it comes from because there's a lot of fuck shit on somebody's podcast. Somebody's well known podcast. And it feels like they're the ones holding the microphone because shade room because amplifying certain amplifying entities like shade room, like the breakfast club, whatever are there amplifying those specific voices because negativity is the wave. Yeah. Yeah. So a lot. It's it's psychologically proven, though, even outside of like podcasting or advertising or whatever. But when it comes to digital interaction, when there is a negative descriptor word, your click through rate goes up by 2%. That I know. Yeah. It's built in not just to the podcasting, but you're right. When you have like the shade room who's emphasizing that it's almost like the microphone turns into a megaphone. Correct. You know, correct. And so my thing is, instead of taking a tool and deciding that the tool needs to be thrown away, how about we just use technology better and put and invest in better voices, better people, because let's be honest, do we really want to leave the youngsters alone to their devices with Joe Budden, academics, Charlemagne academics and Joe Rogan alone have me saying no. And that's the, and by the way, that's the other thing. If you look at some of the top podcast, some of the top top podcast, they're all right leading bullshit. They're all either right leading or Manosphere shit. Joe Budden, Tucker Carlson was up there for a little bit. That was scary too. Yes. Joe Rogan. So it's funny that you specifically called up Manosphere. I saw you. Did you ever watch the car show up to speed? That sounds familiar, but no. Okay. So is this one guy he basically would do like the breakdowns of like a particular car, how it came to be yadda yadda yadda. And he had like a unique storytelling style, but he was part of a greater media group called like Donut. Okay. And he broke off and he started his own channel. Well, one of the things that popped up on his channel just recently was what are the top 10 hobbies that men have that are a turn off for it, right? I know podcast was like number one. That would be number one was the Manosphere as a hobby. And so he was like, what does that even be? Because he's a little bit older than us, right? He's maybe like right about like 45 inch. Okay. He was like, what the hell is a Manosphere? And so like they had to cut right explain it to him. Look at his face. He went from like, like they came back and he was just like, oh, I'll say he was ruined. But but like he was like, I'm really conflicted because I could see why that shit can be problematic, but I feel like there's a huge gap for young men who don't have the space to learn emotional intelligence. Well, yes. It was just it's crazy. Like that that was that was the perspective take that he got from his quick summary of whatever they told him off air. What the fuck the man is fear. I'm saying that meaning the hunger that goes into that, right? It's not just that, okay, here's a here's a topic. It's that you genuinely do have a shit ton of people who are not connected community wise who are feeling more isolated and then reaching out to hot button topics. Right. And when you have those hot, doesn't topics being broadcast from a megaphone perspective, knowing that the negativity is the thing that draws people in and clicks them in. That's how you get shit, shit like that being so fucking popular. And also because like social media, someone else and someone else said this and I agreed with it, social media is kind of very anti working class black man. You can kind of separate those descriptors if you want, anti working class, anti black man, definitely anti working class for sure. I can see where a void could be created that could be capitalized on and by and because make no mistake, the man is fear is 100% something that capitalism is is depending on is writing on, is is definitely a corporate entity looking over looking over your shoulder because it all comes with by this. It all comes with shit that honestly people should just regular shit like hygiene but make it manly. I remember Dr. Squatch soap. I remember when the, when the whole alternative to that, it was just an alternative to soap with chemicals that you don't recognize in it. Yeah, cold press and handmade soap. That's it. I saw a commercial recently with Sydney Sweeney selling that shit in her most delied, her most delied euphoria character voice. I'm gonna say I bet he got some titties out. I bet he got sold to. Yes. Yes. Yes, it did. I'm not a, I'm not really a Sydney Sweeney person personally, but they can have that shit. But um, fam. That's who Uncle Ruckus is talking about in the boot box when he's talking about her white porcelain. I'll say the quiet part of it. That's not my thing, but I'm glad, I'm glad somebody is enjoying. But I knew they had made the full turn to, um, manosphere, manosphere type shit because before it was not like that, it was just, it was, I remember those, those terrible ads. It would just be niggas and it would just be niggas in the shower and be like, yo, this, I really, I, this shit really does well for my skin. It's not abrasive. I know all the chemicals in it. And my girl thinks I smell good. And even that is manosphere advertising. All of that shit. I'm telling you all of that shit. Uh, manscaping. Yeah, that's a wild one too. That's one. They have wild commercials too. Just, just, just, just maintaining basic hygiene, but make it manly and put all the commercials on during UFC fight night. And I, and the, okay, I hear you. I hear you. I hear you. It comes to bear. There's a reason I'm saying this. The reason I'm saying this is because what I say, we need better voices and we need more eclectic, diverse voices because the other side, they're not going to, they're not going to be, they're not, they're not going to be less of those voices anytime soon. Less of those manosphere voices, those less of those right leaning just republicans in, in liberal mail clothing. All of that shit. There's not going to be less of them anytime soon. So we need to be galvanizing for us. And we can see, not just with the manosphere, we can see where all of that shit's heading. The motherfucker that just got elected in office. The first motherfucker, the first motherfucker's, he either a, brought on stage or b, thanked in his victory speech. The nigga who runs Twitter. Or, you know, what used to be Twitter would, but say what you want, Twitter was a major force in communications for a long time. The dude who runs UFC, Joe Rogan, the top podcast in the country. And Theo Vaughn, one of the probably top five white male podcasters in the country. So we see where the tea leaves are going and where communication is headed. So I don't, and I don't blame anybody for trying to hedge their bets and just kind of built their little patreon paywall family and just kind of make their money aside from y'all. I don't blame them, but we also need more voices that sound like, that look like, that talk like us out there. Because there's not going to be less of the other side anytime soon. Definitely not within the next four years. Because we, because again, that victory speech alone should tell you who's holding all the cards over there. I agree, I agree. So that's kind of where I was with it. I'm not mad at anybody shoring up their patreon base and get your money. But I do also think we need to be trying to broaden our horizons a little bit. We're not man as fair, but we're still going to tell you to wash your ass. I would say we're not man as fair. I'm still going to say titties. All the time, I'm just saying like the, the, the manuscript part where there's such the focus on hygiene. I do not care about that part. However, you got to convince a nigga to wash his ass and be groomed. Do that shit. Please wash your motherfucking ass bro. I remember I was talking about hunger, she started dating this dude and she had to introduce him into like using a lupa and actually scrubbing because all he did was rub soap on himself with his hand, huh? Yes. Yes, but like the exfoliating soap, right? Oh, no. Oh, no. Okay. All right. All right. You right. Every time you write, I know that we say we on this part to like, you know, help y'all get through it and all that shit. But like every time we pod, one of them will say something that makes me feel more like Dr. Manhattan sitting out in space looking at this little blue ball going. I hate it here. I don't know. Well, I was, I mean, I was out of the, I was out of the hygiene debate when they told me, when they told me motherfuckers like Paul Wall wasn't washing their ass and shit. Motherfuckers who don't look like they watched, they asked you to be washing their ass the hardest. When I found out Tay Cruz didn't wash his ass. That's, that's when I was about that surprised me. It's not that I was surprised. I was like, I've been with niggas that work out for hours on them, man. You especially need to wash your ass. Like, like feet to neck need to be clean because that's what it's like. Look, look, Mr. Candy's men, they go fight or only has one concern. Winning. You know, at last fight, he was boy, he was born alive between winning and losing. Yeah, don't, don't, don't leave darting it out of this. Sorry. Sorry, Tay Cruz. Not really. I'll say not really. Give some zest. I'll apologize when I see you buying zestos super long. You're not fully clean. Oh, we got to talk. Oh, man, we got to do it. We've done this in a while. We got a drink watch. Baby, I told y'all it was up for that nigga. I mean, so it is going for bad to worse for Drake. Do we know where he filed this? Like what state? No, I don't know. I was just wondering since he's here now. Did we go down? Then go down to Harris County and see his lawyers. So Drake has decided to take matters to court or at least begin proceedings to take matters to court. He is filed. I want to be, you know, there's a couple of levels and yes, there's some semantics. Yes, he has not officially filed a lawsuit yet. He is filed an inquiry. And so what that means is his parents, his label's parent company, UMG, which shares, which basically shares him technically and their imprint labels basically share him and Kendrick. And so the idea is that he has filed an inquiry looking for information because according to him and his people, not like us, I want to make sure I get this right, that not like us contributed to one of UMG's biggest artists, biggest money, most money making artists contributed that they had a knowing contribution to his decline and that they knew that Kendrick was making allegations that he was a pedophile among other things. And there's another inquiry, there's a separate inquiry that suggests that UMG was in business with Spotify and other streamers using bots, streaming farms, and other little tricks to fudge the numbers to make not like us seem more popular than it actually was. Can I stop you? And I know that you really like to be thorough in giving people comments. I just wanted to make sure that we're all on the same page. I want to make sure we're all on the same page. I don't appreciate that about you. And I understand that all of this is kind of tangential to where we're at with it. But yeah, go ahead. No, I mean, again, man, the best of us because that nigga lost me when you would rather raise questions about how we got here than answer questions that were raised months ago, man. Like you already telling me, what's up, bro? I don't care about what you got to say. I don't care. Well, so you can't make me this has a couple of sides to it. You can't make me. No, no, I'm not going to make you. But it's fair to say there's a couple of sides to this. I do I now grant it. I am not on I am not on his side on either of these sides. However, one, you wanted this and you did. You wanted this and you perpetuated this. I'm not you. You didn't have to be the one to start it, but you were definitely the one to dig this up and perpetuate it for sure, for sure, for sure. And people I know people are going to get technical. Oh, well, he mentioned him in the control verse. And yeah, but one that was 10 years ago, two, you kept putting content out there when the man put a verse out there and said, hey, man, I'm trying to believe me alone. And you kept putting content out there. So it's wild to me. And so people are going to say, well, it's bigger than a battle. We would not be having this conversation if he had not lost that part. We would not be having this conversation. And he would not be having this conversation, at least not in this format. He would not be having this conversation. Reason being because this is the same shit. I remember when Nicki Minaj accused Travis Scott of something similar that she said she was supposed to have the biggest selling album at the time, but Travis Scott beat her out. And she accused him of using bots and streaming farms and little little tricks with selling with selling the merch with physical copies to fudge the numbers. And it occurred to everybody that the only reason Nicki would know to accuse someone of this is if she had done it, which she absolutely had and never and was accused of it, never said she had never denied. And the same thing, I feel like it's happening with Drake, where people are skeptical of this, because let's say Drake uses let's say Kendrick used bots. Let's just let's game it out a little bit. Let's say Kendrick used bots. I think people that have been paying attention to Drake closely, I don't think there's a doubt in anyone's mind that there was a time when UMG, this is why UMG kind of responded in just the way they did, because I don't think they're going to take it all away, because if they take it all away, I think that more is going to come out about how Drake got to be where he is than Kendrick, that part, because there was a time when the when it was highly suspected that the labels were using similar tactics to put Drake where he was. I remember a time when you could go on Spotify or Apple and find Drake in a lot of playlists that he was not meant to be in. And see, I appreciate you're still taking the logical approach there and attacking the question that they're asking. I since the beef have just gone down so many dark rabbit holes, where people have done the R Kelly effect, and they started scaling back through a lot of his earlier content and pinpointing their very salient clues. There's some problematic shit going on very early on in his career, and I say to that whenever you can look at someone's body of work, and I don't mean like tangentially pull out things, like you can pull out really say like A, it's track three, album two, that was a weird mic drop you had right there, bro, and we never came back to that. And now and as we spin up with real questions, it's like, hey, there's actually something to be said about album two track three. I don't know, I feel like when you can do that to people that there tends to be a rabbit hole to follow there. So you're not wrong, but the other side to consider is that and the reason I'm bringing all these things up in the rationale and why some of this doesn't hold this doesn't hold up in the light is because it's important to note that Drake is also in that in the middle of all this, even kind of before the battle, Drake is in has been in renegotiate in contract renegotiations with the label. And a lot of times that means you have to make your case sometimes not only for the value that you didn't revenue that you bring to a thing, but how you have been undervalued in whatever the previous negotiation is by the label and how you may have outperformed expectations. And nobody's denying that Drake makes UMG a lot of money. Having said that, say it from it, say it, nobody's denying that UMG makes Drake a lot, that Drake makes UMG a lot of money. But if you look at that roster, I'm not saying that he's the, that he's the least of any of these people. At the same time, you got motherfuckers like Elton John, Taylor Swift. It was a lot of big names I saw under that umbrella. And so you can, and so I could see where you can't just make the, you can't just make the case, well, I'm Drake, so fuck you pay me. Because yes, he is Drake. And yes, he does bring in a lot of revenue, but he ain't the only one. I know, I know he's not necessarily culturally relevant to us, but Elton John, go on tour. Hand over fucking this money. AC/DC, all them old school acts, they go on tour, that's just sell out overnight. I'd be going to an AC/DC one too, they put on the show. And they make money hand over fissing, not only do they make money hand over fissing them tours, they make Marvel money. Yeah, they make Marvel money, and they make Marvel money for it. They like Marvel brought all of that shit back into the light. Like, there are, there are money makers over there. Taylor Swift alone should make the case that there are money makers over there. I don't know, does she do numbers? Apparently she doesn't. It was season. Shut up, just. And so when, and so when you're up against a catalog like that, where I'm not saying that they would kick him out of the, they kick him out of there, but for him to want more, want more value assigned to what he does, it also helps make the case. Well, you ain't the only one in you, bro. Have a good night, because Jay Z been telling y'all for a long time that these white people will do everything in their power to not to, to not give you what you are. Yeah, and it's very easy to tell you, go fuck yourself. And that's, that's why I don't think that Universal is going to negotiate from the value of we have to keep you. It's more like, I mean, you could go somewhere else, but we'll give you the best deal. I will say we're gonna be with our money. Right. Like. And so when you're up against that, and you're up and it's hard to just, it's hard to negotiate gesture value alone, especially when your stock has been sliding in a way where, let's not forget, it's not just the battle. It's that sense the battle. This nigga, this nigga been 0 for 10 at the free throw line for six months straight. Man, all of these little weird airstrikes he's put out have not made any kind of fucking sense. Not one slap, not one slap in six months and you Drake and your, and even though you are still leading in Spotify stream, your Spotify streams have decreased, and Kendrick still went up. That's a lot. That's a lot to unpack. Well, it only went up because the, the, the server's farm bots. Right. Right. Nobody really listens to Kendrick. And there's a, there is something to be said in hip hop about authenticity. And everything, everything Kendrick has been saying, Drake is low key proving right. You, you really, you, you did the most white woman Karen thing, humanly possible. You saw yourself in a, in a, in a battle of moral wits that you couldn't win, that you couldn't win just off of your smile alone. And you went the white route and called the police. I was just telling somebody just the other day, I was watching, I love the oceans 11 movies. And I think my favorite one is oceans 12. Why 12? I, oceans 12 was fun. It was, it was very fun. I mean, don't get me wrong. Eleven was really good, but just, just a personal favorite. There are just some personal favorite moments in 12 that just have me rolling. It's 12 where they stuck Matt Damon out to dry. I feel like they always stick back Damon out to dry. Specifically when he was supposed to do the translations. Yes. Okay. Yes. Yes. 12. So you're right. You call this niece a whore. So in oceans 12, I will explain. In oceans 12, one of my favorite sleeper actors, Vincent Castle, who was charming and good and everything. Shout out to brotherhood, a wolf. Visit Castle plays this gentleman thief like bored rich, bored rich French guy, who is a thief by night, who is the best thief in, you know, Europe or whatever, who gets so insulted that some American guy called Danny Ocean and friends, the best in the business, that he snitched on them to the nigga they stole from just so he would put their lives in danger enough that they would have to be in competition with him and snitched to the Interpol cop that was chasing them just because he was insulted that they were better that someone suggested that they were better than him. Which in my book is the is the most bitch ass shit a criminal can do. Not that there is really honor among thieves, but they they do this whole thing where it's like you broke rule number one. You know, you know, you don't you don't just dime somebody out. And to me, it sounds like the optics of it. I think a lot of people agree the optics of it is that Drake was so insulted that he was done so bad in this battle that the only that that he has to that he has to go take it to court and snips not only on the label but on himself. I'm sorry. If I'm so desperate that I'm going to throw you under the bus because it accused you of the same tactics that you used to help me get ahead. That's that's the key part and especially when it comes to like defamation. Um one of the that because that was the follow-up lawsuit. Right. There's yeah. So there's two the first one with the inquiry they're going for the idea of a Rico concept. Right. So you know what I'm talking about. Well, I mean Rico just means that you're engaging in conspiracy with people. Right. So you're you have to do an inquiry to see who are the people. Here's what we're alleging happened. And then you're trying to tie who was associated and who benefited from the actual events that happened. Right. But then when you follow up with like the being called a pedophile in not like us and calling that a defamation. Well, for defamation or for libel, you have to prove why what someone says is false. And that's why I don't think you want. I don't think you want the feds validating. Right. Something like that is true. Because as far as anyone is concerned, you are your cop. You're like like a lot of biggest like when it turns, you are a snitch, you are in a format, you are basically a cop. Oh, what I mean is he's done the shit though. Yeah. If he's a cop, he's a street king. He's he's a part of it. He's a part of it. He is a dumbass. Doing something I didn't think through what he was trying to do. Did just silly. And and there's just there's a level of authenticity that Drake has because it's not just about the pedophile thing. It's a general not like us is about authenticity. Yeah, not like us is about it is about someone cosplaying. And there's nothing that appears funnier in the light and more like cosplaying than a rap battle not going your way and you taking it to court. You can't come back from that. I told you when the elementary kids were hitting that song word for word, flip for blip, while lying dancing at someone's party. Correct. That we could hang six God up. Drizzy Drake is dried out. You said that and by gum, all I need for him to do is release one more song or add one more inquiry to these cases. And I promise y'all we can just go ahead and put that dirt on his cross. By gum is crazy, by the way. Told y'all wrong country. You are so stupid. You are so stupid. What is wrong with you, dog? That is. Oh, well, I did. I did want to at least mention it that it's so sad that all of this is happening. That is all this is happening. Jake Cole has dropped out has dropped a wild amount of content and no one gives a shit. It's not that I'm a Drake. I'm a Cole fan. And it's not. I'm oversimplifying it. I'm over simplifying it. But the problem is profit released. Well, yes. But the thing is that it's not just that Kendrick released because if going because a year ago, if Kendrick had dropped some shit and Cole dropped on the same week, we would be going crazy. It would be a time to be alive. But the thing is, when you acquit yourself in the way that he did and saying basically with getting getting out of the way of the smoke saying that you don't want any part of that. Coming back in the middle of more smoke that you said you didn't want to be a part of whether this was a plan or not. Coming back in the middle of smoke that you said you didn't want because now you got to sell an album because now now you need all those eyes that are on hip-hop right now. Looks funny in the light. Now, it's not his fault completely because this was always the plan apparently because it's apparently his Dreamville's 10 year anniversary, I want to say. So this was always the plan apparently from what I'm hearing, there is more content coming. There's there's there's more shit coming. Is he going to drop a hundred gigs of content? I doubt it. However, Dream of Dreamville niggas be working. And I have to say, I've listened to Friday Night Lights. It's really it's really good, y'all. And it's a damn shame and nobody go here this shit until late January, early February. Look man, I go back to what you're saying. Between this and the Super Bowl and nobody go ahead and shit until next year. I go back to what you were saying about Drake filing the lawsuit, right, where it kind of makes sense, but the optics suck. I think the same thing about this release, it makes sense. I get why you did it. And people have been clamoring for Friday Night Lights for a while now. And the warm up before that, we appreciate both of those. Thank you very much, Coley Cole. However, and he isn't sure. And you know what? You know what? I actually want to go back to people shitting on him for how he bowed out. That made sense to me. I'm glad he did that. I'm on his side for doing that. You know what? We would not be taking him seriously, lyrically at all. Now that I see that this was not a friendly joust, you niggas out for blood, I thought we were jousting. I joust. All right, so I'm gonna sit down while y'all handle whatever that is. Did I put something out there? Let me scrub that real quick was played. So I don't, you know, fuck that. Like I'm still a cole fan. I look forward to getting into that album. But right now, I'm enjoying ruminating and deciphering. Right. And it's dense. It's another dense album. I'll say that's true. Friday Night Lights is, and that's a thick album. That's a thick album. That's not something I'm ready to get into right now with Kendrick Droppin. What is this? Oh, okay. Oh, that's nice. All right. I don't see. Do y'all okay? Well, I don't really have much else to declare for the main one. Do y'all want to talk about Wayne? Is there much to talk about Wayne? Not really, in my opinion. What happened? But he didn't like that his name got mentioned. Wayne didn't like that his name was mentioned. And basically, he said, let me make sure. Is he gonna battle him? No. No, I don't care. He said, he said basically like, I'm trying to keep. Actually, no, let's keep that. I got some, I know where I want to put him, actually. Let's just, it's a good place to take a break. We will be right back with more food, some more fuckery, sober conversation with the least sober team in podcasting, pour up. We are back. We are black. We are opinionated. And this time of year, noise to piss out of me. It gets dark way too fucking soon. I don't like it. Was it there a time when we were supposed to do daylight savings time? Why weren't we supposed to not do that anymore? At one point? It was a joke. By a joke, I mean, people would basically clamor about it and they say that they're gonna try to make a law, but it never actually goes anywhere. Okay, so it didn't actually go to Capitol Hill. Okay. I mean, Arizona doesn't do daylight savings. Oh, well, yeah. I just, why, it's like, what are we doing, man? Like, didn't it take like, it's like carbon paper. Why are we, why is anyone still doing that? Distance and irritation, my friend. I'm telling you, uh, it is time for why people must be stopped. This is why I don't fuck with why people. I just really want y'all to picture an almost 80 something you're old lady doing like a quartet two step with a finger in the air every time this jingle comes on. I have a real life racist story actually. Wow. Very texting with you. So Dr. Cat Lady had a had a run-in. Her, her mother and her sister were coming home and I hate when they do that. And it looks like, from what I understand, they, they passed someone on the freeway. And I guess they, I guess they felt like they had been cut off. I don't want to get into who did what because I wasn't there. I don't know. You're like I say the traffic, traffic and Houston is wild. That's all I'll say. And people give and sometimes people get mad over nothing. And I guess he felt like he got cut off on the freeway. And this white man followed them home all the way home. First of all, if you in the city and you follow and you follow somebody all the way home to the side of town that they stay on, you're a wild boy. I, well, I'll believe it out. I can't believe it out from here. But I'll tell y'all, off air, but to the side of town, they stay on following them all the way home there and followed them home and then stood at the foot of their driveway, just yelling obscenities, just yelling nigger. What? I mean, and for a solid, for a solid 15, 20 minutes, just standing there at the foot of the driveway, throwing up the finger, yelling, yelling nigger, yelling hard ER. And they were basically like, okay, a fam, you got to relax because you got to relax or we call on the police, man. Or not. Police wouldn't just been called. Wrap it up. We call the police. You just wrap it up. So just letting you know they come and wrap it up be. And he goes, I'm worried about no fucking police. And it turned out he was right to be not be worried about no police. Because he was police. No, they called the police and the police was basically telling them that if he wasn't, because he was at the foot of the driveway, somehow, he's not doing anything wrong. It's he's on public property. Right property. And basically say, and basically posted up. I mean, he left eventually. I think he went in your room, Doug. And basically, giving the starts giving them hints on how to on how to prevent that happening next time. But next time, this time is happening right now. And he went off and made a scene until he felt like he got it all out. Some of the neighbors told him to fuck off. He made a scene until he felt comfortable that he was done. He said, fuck them police. I ain't worried about them police. And packed it up at just left. Preventative measures next time. What the fuck? Shoot him when he's closer. I'll go say, look, when you tell me about preventative measures that you're not coming out here, it sounds like I get to take matters into my own hands. I mean, you are protected by castle law, but he does have to infringe at least on your driveway for you be protected by it. Yes, but we're in Texas and castle law has also been changed to also include your vehicle, which is why explain explain to America. Castle law basically means you have the right to defend your castle. In Texas, it is if someone is on your property and threatening you, then you can shoot to defend yourself and your property can't be a headshot, though, because that's too intentional. Apparently, that makes too much sense. So you're not allowed to technically shoot to kill, but you are allowed to shoot to defend, shoot to warn, whatever. And so that's what I was saying. That would apply in the case of also your vehicle now. Yeah. So if you get into a vehicle squad and someone is threatening you at your vehicle, you can defend yourself and your vehicle in Texas. That's crazy. I, and then I, I would say it, she lives in a part of, again, she lives in a part of town that to this day, I've never been in because I grew up. There are just certain parts of Houston that it's easy to have never been in. And the, because there's just nothing for you out there. Yes. I was always kind of raised like as a, as a, as a nigga from the south side, from the south side that just there's just certain places where there ain't nothing for you over there. And like the oil fields. Correct. And so I always assumed that that was a much, a much different neighborhood than it actually is apparently. I didn't even know black people were out there to be honest. Black people are everywhere. Black people are everywhere. Things are really changing. And so, but that's the second instance I've heard from her. And the last time she was, she was walking and the trail that she walks on behind her house, the little, the little kind of bayou drainage system back there, the overpass somebody had drawn a swastika and written the hardy are. And she organized it because she's, who she is, she organized and put a little neighborhood watch type thing together and then complained to the city enough and they got it removed and all that shit. But that's some wild shit, man. And to me, it, I always consider after the election to be a retrograde on its own. And now we're in retrograde. That's kind of how I feel like I always feel like, especially in the Trump era now, I always feel like they get a little emboldened. They get a little emboldened. This is my, this is my fucking country. I'll stop yelling, I'll stop yelling in front of your fucking door when I'm getting ready. And tell your neighbors to suck a dick. They can't save you. Let me have my temper tantrum. I get to, I get to have my 15 minutes. I get to have my 15 minutes of what the fuck is, what the fuck is the cop going to do? This is, this is mine. I own this. This is my America. This is the America I voted for and I am protected. That's, that's what, that's how they roll. That's how they roll. And all of this really, and it just convinces me even more of what I already know, which is that all of this, all of this happening now is a response to the Obama years. Yes. We still responding to that? Yeah. Absolutely. Bruh. Everything that's happening in terms of the, in terms of the, the paradigm shift in technology and communications on social media, the way a lot of Silicon Valley is moving in Trump direction. All of that that we were talking about with Elon with Joe, but with Joe Rogan with all that shit. The thing that upset the Republicans the most about the Obama years is how Obama got over on them with social media and then realizing how bad they were with social media. And everything since then, since the Obama years has them been working towards, well, yeah, but working towards beating that crowd at their own game, which I, it pains me to say they kind of have. Yeah. I mean, well, so part of it, and I know we were making the jokes, if not this week, or I think maybe the previous week or so, talking about the relevance of podcasters as a platform for political candidates, right? Yeah. And whether that really counts since they're not going to ask the hard questions anyway, right? Like you most, most of the entertainment podcast are not going to be established journalists that have some type of training background experience with being able to pressure a political person, right? But that doesn't change the fact that they have platforms that still influence and others and have a way to connect to people, especially when there's a divergence from traditional mainstream news media platforms. So you have, I think, where the Republican Party versus the Democratic Party this year, especially outmaneuvered, was just being like, hey, oh, Trump, show up to this shit. And he literally would admit he was like, I don't know who you are. I don't know why I'm here, but they said I need to be here. And I already know who I am. So fuck it. I'm just going to answer questions. Wait, what do you want? We all know Trump don't know shit about the old bar. He like straight up said that shit. And like, at first, I thought it was kind of like, there was one blitz he did in a week where he did like three of the young bro tight podcasters in this one guy gave him like the cyber truck with the picture of him painted on his watch. And then that ends up violating campaign donations. But at the same time, they went from, it wasn't just that little quick blitz on some podcasts, they really integrated them into the campaign in the switching months. And you have the idea that Trump had set up, you know, the truth social network, regardless of how successful that's been, it still was an echo chamber that allowed him to have the platform to do whatever and say whatever he wanted and kind of galvanize a base from that echo chamber. So yeah, they they definitely took the lessons of Obama with Twitter. When Twitter was new, and the idea of social media was new. And now you're taking this other new demographic, this new democratization of information through podcast and independent media channels, like Kai Sinat, you know, I'm saying doing like Twitch streaming and the other streamers. I would before this year, I would not have thought that a Twitch streamer would be a position to do political advertising. Or that they would even ask him to, well, yeah, whether they did or not, but they do stuff with other streamers, as I'm saying. Yeah, correct. And so they're they've integrated streaming as a platform stop. They've integrated podcast as a platform stop when you used to have people where you were stumping and kissing the babies, right? And so you're doing this, stumping and kissing the babies virtually, you're touching a lot more people you're creating and tapping into different demographics. And so the game has been changed. But culturally, we have to see what happens over the next 10 years anyway, as people age out of different platforms or new platforms arise, just like how the young kids don't use Facebook the way that we used Facebook, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I don't I don't disagree on any particular point. Send your racist stories, send your real life racist encounters along with your listener letters. 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And one of the things I always learned every year from the Macy's Thanksgiving parade is what weird musical they have made each year. All right. When they made back to the future of musical, I said nothing. They made something else I can't think of into a musical. I said, now why not? When I found out what Dear Evan Hansen was about. Dear who? Oh, don't get me started. Don't get me started. That might have to be a patron. Don't get me started on Dear Evan Hansen. One of the weirdest musicals I've ever seen in my life. And it's probably the widest because black people could not get away with that. But I just learned that a book from my childhood, the outsiders has been made into a musical. And a happy, happy, happy joy, joy musical. Staying Golden Pony Boy was the most excited, was the most excited, happy, joy song I had ever heard in a musical that they did in Times Square and on, well, I forget what street that is. But, fam, what the fuck? And I can only assume that it was made by community. Someone that did that has never read the outsiders, but just read the blurb on the back of the book. Because virtually nothing happy. Nothing to sing about happened in that movie. I mean, it depends. Or in the book. I mean, like, dog, no, you, I have to show you, like, they were happy to be saying, stay Golden Pony Boy and shit. Hey, man. This is why people think that Hollywood and beyond in the stage, you know, has run out of ideas. The, the outsiders? And the nigga that's so happy to be singing, I believe gets shanked at the end. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that one. Stay Golden. Get the fuck out of my face. The outsiders? Anyway, anyway, peak white people shit. I got to be white people shit. The absolute flabbergasted of your face is hilarious. Oh, wow. It is time for listener letters. Engagement. Vershe sent me, I assume she wants thoughts on this. Vershe sent me this a blurb from this interview from this L.O. Cool J interview. And I'm just going to play this without comment. If it will allow. If it will, I mean, please. You know, I'm going to say this with humbly, but I really mean this. I think one day people are going to wake up and realize that L.O. Cool J is the most important rapper that ever existed. I truly believe one day people are going to say that hear him out. They're going to say, yo, they're going to look and they're going to say, wow, when it comes to the jury, this is the guy who introduced all the diamond and ice in the champagne. They're going to say when it comes to the love songs, this is the guy who introduced the love songs and all the love shit. When it comes to the bad boy vibe, they're going to realize, oh, this is the guy who introduced all the rebellious bad boy vibes before it was done. When it comes to the goat terminology, they're going to say, yo, this is the guy who came up with the goat stuff. They're going to say when it comes to dev jam, wow, this is the first artist that was on dev jam. They're going to say, well, you know what I'm saying? When it comes to the solo artist going to say, wow, this is the first solo artist to take it all the way around the world. Like, I mean, I could go on and on and on. They're going to say, yo, when it comes to the full boo, yo, this guy introduced the whole idea of putting clothing lines even before that he did true. When they say, oh, when it comes to endorsements, oh, this is the guy who did the kango and made the kango popular before people even did that. When they talk about television, they're going to say, oh, this is the guy who did the credible stuff on TV. And at the same time, was still making credible records that wasn't just doing TV and using rap as a launchpad. When it comes to business, they're going to say, well, like I could go on and on and on and on. So it's like, I feel like that's why for in a lot of ways, it's hard for me to get into the movie thing. Honestly, sincerely. And I mean, it's sincerely. And it's like, that's why it's not really that interesting for me because I'm doing so much and I've done so much for the culture that it's almost like, um, it's unfathomable. I mean, Run DMC wasn't even on depth, Jim, bro. That's true. I can, I can go ahead and stop it right there. Um, if you're just looking for, or shave, you're just looking for our thoughts on this. I can tell you mine right now. I don't think he's seeing anything wrong. I don't, I, I'm be honest with your dog. I don't know if it makes him the most important rapper that's ever existed, but he deserves to be in the conversation. He deserves to be one of the first names to come up in the conversation because he was, he was correct. All that shit he says he brought. I can't think of anybody who was doing it first. I would say to, to piggyback off any of that, I would be nitpicky if I were in any of his points, which I always find if you have to nitpick someone's argument, they got you when they're, I was going to say when I, because whenever I think of rappers who tried to, who for a while, because it was, it was a lot of rappers that did that for a while that tried to break in, that knew they weren't love song niggas that tried to break in with the love songs, they were doing it because they saw L.L. do it. When the labels and be said, do the same labels, death jam, like that, like when Fab broke in, they tried to break Fab in with the love songs. He had the party joints, but they really tried to break him in with the love songs. You heard so into you everywhere. You heard the joint with a jagged edge everywhere. All that shit, bruh. They tried to break Cassidy in with the love songs. Very odd choice, but all the niggas that tried to, that tried to break into a mass, a crossover audience with love, they did it with it. That was, it was just understood that you were going to come in with the love songs because women were the top consumers at the time, just below white people. So wasn't Ja Rule that started that? It was absolutely not Ja Rule that started that. And even, I can't think of anybody who was making a big deal going in other than maybe Queen Latifah. And again, we would be nitpicking that. Going into television and movies first. Probably about the same time for them to be honest with I think in Living Single and in the house. In the house. I think they dropped same year, and in Living Single might have a couple months on it. And again, that gets back to nitpicking. Yeah. And he was already doing movies. Like, you, play the simple over pool tables and putting sticks and asses. He is never going to let that go. You will never live that. That scarred me. I ain't even though someone was out there writing shit like that, let alone living a life like that. Like I said, I don't know about the most important. But you gotta, you have to put James Todd Smith in the conversation. You have to. I mean, even for real. Even right down to being like a real life superhero. Because again, beat up a salence with his own two muscles. Dog, yes. Like dog them niggas out. So, you don't know nobody on long order that's just really out here in the streets whooping niggas ass. I see he says he does. But we got, we got, we got, we got, we got, we got to say that shit. We got a little on CCTV doing it. I don't say Pips got to say that shit. But yeah, I, yeah, I have no notes to be honest with you. And even if it's not 100, if it turns out to not be 100% true, in my mind, he's contributed so much to the culture, he gets to say that shit. He gets to say that shit and does not get to be challenged by anybody less than like Queen Latifa or Ice Cube. Somebody like that. These young niggas definitely don't ever get to challenge him on that. You say ice cube, I'm still thinking like ice tea. And the fact that this nigga stays out of the way so hard. That part. This nigga stays out of the way. He don't hate on the young niggas. He, L.O. Cool J has earned the right to talk more shit than I think we sometimes give him credit for because we like making fun of the fact that every now and then he was on some weird shit. Or that he's always, always looking at his dry ass lips. Yeah, also true. One more, I'll make this as quick as possible. A mutual friend of ours sent me this and wanted male perspective thoughts. I don't know if she sent this to you. But it was that video, it was a video, little Duvall posted the video of some documentary where they were talking about Adina Howard and how Adina Howard's marriage, it was a clip from this where Adina Howard was even admitting that her marriage ended because her sex drive was too high. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, her friend did send me that. And she wanted too much sex. And even to the point where the husband was like, yeah, no for real. Seriously, it was a lot. And Adina Howard was like, yeah, I wanted it morning, noon, night. If I could squeeze it a little snack, I want that snack. I want that too, right. And she was very upfront about she's like, I'm still like that, to be honest with you. Um, no notes. I'll just say, well, I'm sorry. Let me rephrase that. No notes from, I'll say no criticisms for that dude. Hey, well, hey man, know it, know your level. So I don't have tell you like this, I don't have criticisms for him either. And the reason or I would say, I so well, one for him, you can't expect anything less from the person who said in their music. And I quote, I want to freak in the morning, a freak in the evening, just like me. She so she told you, she told you. Yeah. And sometimes people think that artists are being, you know, hyperbolic, hyperbolic. We're saying things for the space or maybe you met that like on the weekend. Every I take over has been consistent with what she wants. I take the, I take the creator of T shirt and panties very seriously. Absolutely. I would agree. I would agree. So the person who wrote that song meant that. But I guess going back to the question of like, would you take issue with that? Like, could you like, what's your too much? I was, well, I was about to, I was, but I'm just going to read what I responded to her directly. Oh, go, go for it. Because like I say, I, you know, this could easily get gender-worzy, but I think this is important. I think this is, I think this is important to point out. I wrote, they say as we get older, women's sex drive increases as, as men's either levels out or decreases depending on what shape they're in, their health, their personal health, their physical fitness, what have you, right? With that in mind, testosterone supply either supposedly goes down as you get older. So yeah, I can see where some, I can see where depending on the age and maturity level and whatever, some dudes might feel overwhelmed. Having said that, I work out like four to five days a week. I would like to believe that I would, that I would at least try to keep up with whoever I'm in a relationship with, at the very least, not to be crude, but at the very least, I'll eat it whenever you want, bare minimum. But I would like, I would like to believe that, yeah, I would try to keep up with whatever my chosen person wants, but I can see where men might get intimidated and feel insecure about being able to keep up, especially as we get older and especially at our age. And we know that some dudes in these, when it comes to limitations, aren't always the best at expressing themselves. So I feel like, don't get me wrong, I'm gonna, I'm gonna try to keep up with whatever my woman is doing in whatever category, if that's what she needs, not just sexual, but having said that, you know, I'm never gonna, I'm never gonna, I'm gonna try, I'm never gonna turn you down. But having said that, I understand where sometimes the frustration and the frustration with keeping up comes in. I can't speak for, I can't speak for me there, I can't speak for everybody, but I get it. I think it's funny from an older perspective, because from the interview, I didn't think he was older. It sounded like that was a younger man at the time who could not keep up with where her drive was, right? Oh, and that's fine. It's not necessarily age dependent on how you keep up with different people, sex drives, et cetera, et cetera, right? But even then, just to throw that in there, throw in there with that, do you think that, do you think that there's also some validity to some men just have not been exposed to sex in that way? Yeah, that's where I'm going. Okay. Okay. So it's, it's not necessarily about age, but sometimes when you have the different experience levels, like what you think you, you got some people who think they doing something, because for what they are limited in their Dunning-Kruger effect of experience, hey, everyone I've been with been pleased and we do it once a week. You know what I'm saying? Are they pleased or are they just not hurting your ego? So now you move on to someone who once a week ain't enough, it needs to be once every four hours and you like, now wait a minute. What's going on? I also want to throw in there with that, that I think sometimes even with men, some men's exposure level, I think sometimes there's even a value assignment to it where some, it's hard to believe, but there are some men that just weren't raised like that. You know what I mean? And there, and your 20s and your 30s are for unlearning a lot of that shit that you thought you knew, that you just got handed down from somebody else that didn't know shit about shit. I felt like my response was equally again, not criticizing anyone, but I was trying to understand like again to each their own, you do what you got to do, you recognize your levels, but for me personally speaking as a young man and speaking as yesterday's old man. No, there are too many, there are far too many scaffolds, like if you send me a text and it's like just a pair of heels and when I get there, you're hiding somewhere in the room presenting, hey man, you got to tell me nothing. I'm gonna drop my stuff, I'm gonna bury my face, you're gonna get to it. If you shoot me a text and it's like, hey, where are you at? Because you know that I get off at a certain time and hey man, you need some certain kind of attention. Look, I am on the way right now, right now, I feel you on the on the way. Now here's here's with that. I got one of them texts and this is how I knew I would, I was not the young man that I used to be. You want to sleep? No, no, no, I did not want to sleep. I was told faster and I was, I tried to go faster. I was going as fast as I thought I could go. Look, niggas, I felt like I was the flash dropping out of the speed force. I was like, hold on, I need a break. I thought I was about to have a heart attack, an asthma attack. I couldn't, man, you know, like, you talk about the cone, a blackness that passed through. The cone started going through my eyesight and I was like, we not going out like this. So, give me your hair. I will finish. So look, the job requested of me. I will concede that because low-keyed that ton of vision that comes over you as you're like chasing that monster. It's like like the opening scene to the distinguished gentleman played in my head so hard a couple of years ago, I was like, Oh, no, I've entered into the age of old man. This is, this is not going to be like college activity anymore going forward in life. I got it. Not what I, not what I risk. Look, but here's the thing. I will still risk it. I will put my life on the line. Same. I'll go out on top. Yes, they'll find me in a room, but it'll be a fantastic story behind it. Y'all, just for the record, we are still not doing blue true ads ever. Just so we're clear. God damn. That was a pretty good one. I got to thank her for that one. Yeah, that was a good round of questions. Upidswhileblack@gmail.com. That's where you want to be. If you want to ask us things, find us on social media. Mainly me. Y'all just, I love that y'all can get in touch with these niggas. Y'all just text them and shit. I love it. I actually shout out to Braddy, one of the listeners, because she has been inspiring the next couple of round three facts that are going to come off. I've definitely stolen them from her and stop. Like, I actually feel like some of the content creators you send me now. Stop sending me some of that shit. I'm trying to sleep in Australia. Just Australian kaiju adjacent texts and shit. It's like all the weird shit. Don't stop sending me. I got you. I got you. I got you. It's time for the top three STF use. Who are the three people in America that need to shut the fuck up? Number three is Jaleel White. Really? You know, I didn't realize he was that crazy behind the scenes. There were always rumors that Jaleel White was kind of an asshole. Yeah. Behind the scenes. Yeah. But him making the rounds trying to sell this book only confirms it. He was makers. Well, I think he was a breakfast club interview where he pointed out a certain point because of course people had questions about certain things over the course of the years of family matters like Judy Winslow. You know, we all know she went up those stairs one day and did not come back down for like several seasons. And so Jaleel White basically made it had this narrative that her character, they were running out of, they didn't have a whole lot for her character to do because in his opinion, because she wasn't a good actor, actors, and she wasn't reading her lines good and her mom was trying to be too involved this day and the third. Hey, fam, I know y'all grown now, but you are still kicking a little kids back in. You got to do that to sell the book. That's kind of nasty to me. And it's giving screech. I don't know if y'all remember, saved by the bell that in real life and real life screech was kind of a piece of shit. Nobody fucked with that name. No one fucked with him the long way. And in this case, it's it's that everything every every snippet of this book that I've heard and every piece of the story I've heard him tell very much sounds like he came in and started putting himself above and aside the rest of the cast. It don't get me wrong. He was launched into stardom like crazy. I get it. At the same time, that don't mean you got to you got to do all you got to throw especially now with especially the fact that you have not done anything whatsoever pop and sense. He was an anacondas too. He was also sonic the hedgehog, but so the fuck what um which sonic both uh no not the new one. The old cartoons. Okay. Where he was like obsessed with chili dogs for some reason or whatever but and that was barely popping because the because there were two versions of that and the one good one lasted like 10 episodes. Fam, you have like you don't get to talk this level of shit when yes you were a cultural icon at the time but you ain't done shit with your life sense. And even after you stopped doing that shit you went to you you knew better that you weren't gonna find your way out in out in Hollywood like you thought you were. You were not gonna end up in the big Sylvester Stallone demolition man two movies and shit. So you took your ass to college and got you an education because you knew that your time was limited. And apparently nobody liked him and apparently everybody fucking hated him in college too including apparently Gabrielle Union. Um dog you ain't got to do all that to sell no book. You got to throw no little kid under the bus. You have to do that. You don't have to do that. The people that are going to read your book no no the people that are going to read your book are going to read your book regardless and I don't see a whole lot of family matters uh enthusiast out there just chomping at the bit to go get the julio white story. So I am I am but I still wouldn't buy it because I know you're a dick and off the sole fact that I argue a lot with people about the fact that season one has two different intros. Okay. Because he was not originally a part of the concept of that fucking show. So when that show first came out it has a totally different cut for the intro before they even picked that nigga's will argue that with me like uh he was not a day one. Oh yeah no he was supposed to be a he was supposed to be a guest character that came in and then moved down. Yeah yeah yeah. He was yeah he was yeah yeah. Hit the button. I don't even think he got an intro until the next season. Exactly. What no tell in the season one. Yeah. By telling the season one. Fair enough. Yeah. Yeah shut the fuck up. Number two. I wanted to save this one for now is Wayne. Oh hey bro. Lil Wayne. Hey bro. Hey man. Look I was afraid you're gonna do that. Got nothing was got nothing but respect for you. Nothing but respect for you. Um the mix tapes got me through a lot of high school and college. Um I will never I will never forget that I had a I had a phone back when ringtones were a thing that I was unapologetic about ask them holes be in my ringtone. Damn. Um Amanda made a lot of fun of me for that. She was she was like you really don't give a fuck. And and she was like and I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna stop calling you Boji. I think it was that come like stacked on top of how you'd answer with black male initiative. Oh that was a running joke. Okay yeah you say answer the phone. Thank you for calling the black male initiative. How may I help you? You trying to tell y'all this man was a savage back in college but nobody wants to listen to me. It's not a popular conversation but I'm trying to tell y'all I know who James was back in college. James is a snicker to my right. What the fuck are you talking about? Oh man. Quote on quote James that one friend that was like either hype when they were a different person or hype when they were inebriated and became a different person. He was both. More to the more more to the point. Damn. We must stay focused brothers. We must stay focused. Um look we don't think you're actually ever gonna try to battle Kendrick Lamar. But if you had the thought in your head that that was a good idea. I emphatically advise you advise you to not do that. The way that he interwees like social activism into some of his tracks and just some of your relationships. Right. Right. Important topics. I just want you to be quiet. It looked real funny in the light. Man. Bruh. I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it. I look and again nobody is doubting you at the peak of your lyricism. No one. There's no there's no question to be had about it. But you in the shape that you are currently in you'll end up in R. L. Stein episode. You could not survive. You could and not even like and not even the good shit. Not even like goosebumps. You'd be on like Fear Street dog. Like it'd be a problem. It would be a problem. I don't want that life for you man. You just just be quiet. Quit while you're behind. Quit while you're behind. Go get your Vegas residency and chill out. Oh just go somewhere. Get a residency. Get a regular show. It just shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. I want better for Wayne. I also wanted to sober up but we can't have everything. I know. I don't because he doesn't answer questions the way I want him to. So I don't give a fuck but I do want him to be quiet. Yeah I definitely got to sit down. He got to relax. The number one person who should shut the fuck up. I actually have to look this. Oh I forgot if I sent this to y'all. Is Myron from Fresh and Fit? Oh no. I definitely thought you were going to go political with the number one. No I'm trying to I'm trying to give everybody a break. He needs a cleanse. Okay palette cleans away. Yeah I'm trying to give everybody a little break from that. There were some contenders in politics though. Well while I'm looking for this who do you have? I don't have a researcher for me. It was a couple of it was a couple of runners up. I gave you one of the runners up when I'm done. Myron from Fresh and Fit got to relax man. This nigga is devolving further and further and I'm putting Myron out there in particular because the other nigga the African nigga. He looked like he know his friend going off the rails. He looked like look look I just wanted to go to Miami. I just wanted to come out to Miami. Fuck some only fans chicks and talk a little shill and talk a little shit and make a little YouTube money. And this nigga is turning into uh is letting the the unholy man of sphere spirit consume him. I'll just play well I'm not even any more commentary. I'm just gonna play what Myron said recently on episode of Fresh and Fit. Uh I don't even know where to start with this. Wait a minute let's bring it back here. Everything every issue every ailment in society you could tie it back to fucking feminism. Every single one feminist all boy who pushed feminism the fucking Jews Gloria Steinem and et cetera who puts almost sexuality the Jews see these are the conversations they don't want you to hear right this is what I mean when I tell y'all I would rather be honest with you guys and keep it a thousand and say what the fuck it really is then having to bite my fucking tongue. I'm not buying my tongue for no fucking Jews nigs Asians pajits stinky Indians fuck that shit. Blacks Arabs even Arabs I criticize them. I'm not buying my tongue. I call it like it is. Facts are facts regardless of who fucking says them. Do they go back to his friend? Yeah. Anyway right so we could keep going on with this fucking stupid ass bitch but I'm telling y'all all the problems we have in society you can always tie it back to fucking feminism and then you figure out who started feminism all the isms communism feminism Marxism socialism who always starts it the dreidel spinners so anyway we'll continue on. I just want to say I love all my Jew friends. I love Jews. I love everybody and I don't hate nobody. Every I am his friend his friend is me every you ever fought off on a handle like that just know that's exactly how we respond on this platform and then just really started involved with motherfuckers that didn't have shit to do with that situation. Wow. I don't I don't I love how he said the nigs like he really would have half saying but he still know if he were to put the hard E.R. that's you know why you know why have you heard him? Have you heard him say it? No he is incapable of saying it without the hard E.R. he is incapable. The fact that he said it more than once with a black man next to him I'm gonna fuck how that black man identifies saying the hard E.R. with a black man next to you is wild to me and this goes back to did I say this a couple of weeks ago that we've gotten to a point where niggas just blame any old thing on feminism without actually knowing what feminism is. Yeah well I mean to he also blamed communism Marxism Marxism man I feel like in a certain way like words vomiting isms he he knew that we're bad in his head with no context and another platform and they're banned now they just got banned from twitch I bet they did that's wild I see why who is this? Myron from he is the what's the group when freshen fit he is the he is he would be fit even though I think those niggas look for do not look fresh nor fit I mean is what is what is freshen fit I don't know exactly what there is that's a part there's another manosphere podcast that's exactly what what you heard is what you get all the time all the time I could I and and I thought they were gonna calm down a little bit because they just they just had a situation where they got this girl beat up at their studio because they just have a but they just pull up a bunch of randos when they record and then talk shit about them and then they get mad I'm telling you they just it'd be 10 million randos in the studio with them dog they're everything that's wrong with podcasting like when you when you talk about the 20% that voted that probably voted for Trump that's what they sound like we can start giving him air time he could yeah myron from freshen fit and to be honest I think he spray I think he spray in his I think he's starting to spray tan his hair on because that meant that that he definitely had a nice little baldie in the middle like this this is someone that gets beat up on the way of their car oh absolutely absolutely absolutely yeah he was the nigga trying to be cool that that was trying to be cool and got beat up every day for it because he was trying too hard he's that dude this is what I'm talking about when I say we need better representation and we need a better a bigger focus on better podcasters and better content if we're going to survive the next four years that's so important we can do better and we need to demand better from these niggas which is why I'm glad they keep losing platforms by the day they are like they are he's really trying to replace kevin samuels the dark lord kevin samuels in the manosphere what is it about that rhetoric that is so attractive to them you think it doesn't like I must say does it like play on ego does it like ego in insecurity bomb insecurities oh he said it he said it he said it he said a million times on his platform that that he has no respect for these women because they weren't giving because they weren't giving him pussy in the younger years and now that he's making and now that he's making your money they all on his dick will fuck you if he is the he is the sum total of that he has said it numerous times that's crazy they they are the worst they are the evil version of shits and gigs that's crazy he can shut the fuck up shut the fuck up i just want to put on a side note poor james and foo hard shits and gigs went down like good gas going up hey man it's it's fucked up one minute you are you are a black you are black men in podcasting that are above reproach going on international tours buying each other buying each other exotic cars on along the way and shit it's kind of weird and now you have gone from getting your back you've gone from that to getting your back kicked in they've been approached and i was saying and now you're getting your back kicked in and kindred lyrics because i forgot to mention that last week he's definitely like yo don't have no white man talking don't be kicking in while you have a white man talking about black women that was for that man well again can we talk about this album for a little bit man again act right in these internet streets act right in these industries the internet is not written in pencil or don't but know that we're going to make fun of you especially if you blow the bag especially if you blow the bag do you hear me drop the majors john major's is coming back because they they uh he's settled we believe so marveling giving him that job back he doesn't have that to worry about anymore yeah marveling giving that job back if they did though there's a very better hit him up there's a doctor doing panel that i would love for them to just stick his character in where he's pulling the spine out oh yeah i would i actually like bring him back for that and then and then um have rdj ad lib no i am a great man even though i'm not going to lie to you i'm kind of over it i'm over it i it would the king thing was nice while with while it lasted i'm not that i you know i'm cool i'm cool he's so corny i'm over him yeah um do we do a podcast all right we did several man y'all got your money's worth today definitely we've been i i want to salute these niggas man these niggas were working these niggas were working um i want to thank the man to my left the man in front of me for going on this journey with me um i've made i have made podcastes out of these niggas man i have i i definitely have and yes it sounds cocky that sounds arrogant i'm gonna put that on my back i made podcastes out of these niggas definitely they are not what they showed up as at first we're petlin bluechaw in my podcast we're you really you really going hard for that what up i think that's the point they pay everybody man it's christ the same i'll say they i'll say they do be handing them deals out there and i will let me not say anybody else's name they might not pay us um i want thank everybody for coming along with us on this journey um i uh we got uh i say we got two more episodes uh uh for the year i'm getting these niggas a break see where you're strong um other than that all oh just know this when we come back next year the countdown to 300 has begun i'm gonna say a whole lot just know that the countdown to episode 300 begins in 2025 for those of you listening you all have an intimate understanding of the man to my left and my right i want you to close your eyes and think about when you seem the most active in the wild those are the plans they have for 300 i don't i don't like how you turn on the quiet storm voice for that um i do very bothered by that um listen to his smooth buttery voice i don't like you call it in butter yeah it's weird it's weird it's okay bigfoot also weird also weird um as i always say we gonna be here to help y'all get through it y'all gonna be here to help us get through it in the more words of friday night lights find each other because you need each other um other than that we'll be back next week more foolishness more fuckery until then this has been episode 288 yeah of opinions while black i have been asked check on your quiet friends i am the fluent one and as always forever imparting titties you know what kind of these people have had seasonal depression as well you know what that person means i need a couple of attachments and your famines to send that person those news help them with their dopamine dopamine get you moving in the day big ass titties bye niggas so you [BLANK_AUDIO]