The Killer B's: Joel Blank & Jeremy Branham
12/02 Hour 3 - Do the Texans Have a Prayer Against the Top Teams in the AFC?
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"I think there's two different arm strengths. I think there's one in terms of how far you throw a ball and I think there's zip. I don't think they're always equal though. If you went one through five in the NFL who throws the ball the furthest, I don't think those same guys went through five had the highest zip. I think they're very different things." "I think that's probably accurate. I think you can get someone that can throw it from the outfield to home plate at a certain velocity. But when you're talking about throwing the ball." "Are they throwing it?" "Yeah. Yeah. I think there are two different things. Maybe some math nerds would disagree, but I don't. Like angle that you throw it matters, like how much you're stepping into it matters. I don't think velocity is the same as throwing the ball far because Mahomes does have zip. Now probably 82-83. I mean, I'd hit it. I'd be able to hit his fastball, but he's easy there. I mean, I think that when you're talking about the strength of an arm, when your lower body's taken out of it and you still have the ability to throw the football to an accurate spot or get it to where it needs to go, you're right. If you get a running start, it's like what's his name, Trevor Bauer. When you can wind up, run, get a running start, wind up, and then you throw it against the wall and you get clocked and it's like 100 and whatever. Okay, cool. But you have to do that by throwing it off the mound. It's a different story. All those guys have big arms. Like we're certainly splitting hairs there, but I don't think Mahomes will be top five and just throwing the ball the absolute furthest. All right. This team closer to the jags, are they closer to the top teams in the AFC? I'm telling you, the more I look at them and I said this because of the fact that I said it against the Cowboys too, this team just gives me vibes that they're closer to a team like the Jaguars who are underachieving because they had a lot of talent to start the year. They were a playoff team a year ago, then they are the teams that are the tops in the AFC. And they just can't put two sides of the football, two halves. You look at all these different ways that they're they're an incomplete team from week to week. When one is good, the other is not. DeMeco's even saying about, hey, look, we finally scored points as an offense. Well, your defense was terrible in the second half. You mentioned the fact that Mack Jones was throwing for over 200 and some yards and looking like a starter worthy quarterback in the NFL. The fact is, is this team just continues to underachieve and under impress. And that's what's worrisome to me. This was early in the season to be one thing where we are late in the season with four games left on the schedule. It just leads me to believe more and more that this team is just a middle of the road team that's going to get into the playoffs because they had such a everything go their way early in the season for every other team in the division to lose while you were winning. You built up a lead that you're not going to blow. At the same time, there's just too many, too many weaknesses on this team. Yeah. Respectfully, I'll disagree with the underachieve. I agree with you about the underwhelm. You had the Texans winning nine or 10 games. I did. I mean, they're eight and five. Right. So I think that I was pretty accurate in the fact that they're going to win nine. But how are they underachieving to your standard? Because of the for most people's standards, it was that they had to go further than they went a year ago that they had, you know, that there was this is like the progression. And so now they have to show more progress this year. I was the one harping on the schedule being one of the main reasons why they might not do that. But at the same time, I expected more from this team because of what they added, who they added, where they added. And the fact that with a second year of CJ Stroud, I expected way more out of this offensive line. This offensive line is so underwhelming, it could be the major issue in them not being able to do anything offensively when you're playing good football teams. I think that when you look at the talent on this roster, they should be far better and be putting down on tape, far better results than what they're doing. Yeah, I maybe we were just very realistic about what we expected of the Texans. Like you had him nine or ten wins. I had him at 10, I think, in losing in the divisional round, I don't think that they're underachieving. I agree with you that the under, at least from our standards, the expectations that some had, I feel like we're too lofty, quite frankly, and the offensive line to me is like the biggest reason why. And I do think that they played well against Jacksonville. I think sometimes we over-complicate sports, really, I think we over-complicate life, but that's a deeper conversation. I think we over-complicate sports, like what's wrong with the offense? Why is the offense in the middle of the pack in the NFL? Well, slow ex-awful, CJ Stroud's regress, Tank Dell's not putting up the numbers. I think it's simply the offensive line's not as good. And whenever you have poor offensive line, it makes life much more difficult on a play collar, it makes life much more difficult on a quarterback, and if a quarterback's life is more difficult, then you start to see the domino effect of everything else around the quarterback. I think we over-complicate the issues of this offense. I think it's simply offensive line. But the over-achieve or under-achieving, I don't know if it's so much that. And then comparing them to the Jags versus the top teams in the AFC, I mean, there's six games better than the Jags. They're five games worse than Kansas City. When they've played the top teams, they've played, they've been in those games, like the top two teams that they've played are Buffalo and Detroit. They beat Buffalo, and they're up 16 by Detroit. So I have a hard time saying they're closer to Jacksonville than saying they're closer to Buffalo. Who they literally beat. And again, yes, you can look at that and say that there's no, I'm not arguing what you're saying as not being factual, but at the same time, the ITES tells me that this isn't a top upper echelon AFC team that what I'm seeing right now and the way that they're playing football doesn't exude to me a team that is one of the best teams in their conference. And that's what I was expecting. I was expecting no matter the results of a tough football game against, you know, all the teams on your schedule or not, I was expecting at this point of the season, seeing a more well-oiled machine. You're right. It's like the degrees of separation of Kevin Bacon or all however you look at it, everything's connected to the offensive line offensively, although Bobby Sloeck is under heat and the play calling comes into effect and all those things factor in as well. But at a certain point, you expect the whole plan to come together and you see that they're starting to progress to the point where late in the season, they're going to play their best football. They're going to look like a team that's one of the better teams in their conference. You're kind of moving the goalpost though. Like you said that they're closer to the jags than they are the top teams in the AFC. Now you're saying they're not an upper echelon team in the AFC. Like it's to me, it's a scale on this spectrum. You have Jacksonville on this spectrum. You have the top teams in the AFC. Where are the Texans on that bar graph? I think that they're closer to the top teams in the AFC than they are the Jags. Maybe but to me, maybe you consider the Ravens, the top team in the AFC because they have the same record. Yeah. And at the same time, would you take, is there any, you're taking the Ravens or the Texans on a neutral field? Again, you're moving the goalpost. Like, are they closer to the Ravens or the Jags though? But I'm saying, I guess, and I'm basing most of this on the expectations of the majority of the fan base, not necessarily our prediction at the start of the year. But what I see with the eye test, what I would look at this football team is a team that isn't, isn't, isn't where they, I think they should be if they're going to be one of the upper. You're kind of all over the place right now. Like, to me, can you move in the goalpost here? Okay. One of the big factors that are, they're catching in terms of where they rate in the conferences, the rest of the teams in the, there's a lot of teams in the conference that underachieved. I think they're also one of those teams that's underachieved, but they're going to win their division. They're going to be playoff team. And so I think that it's disappointing to me because I expected to see more at this point in the season out of this football team. Yeah. And you're looking at more eye tests. I, quite frankly, I expected the team to look better. The results and their records about where I had it and probably where it's going to end up. But I would agree that you expected it to look better on a consistent basis. What, what confuses me though about them is that they seem to play to the standard of their competition. They play Buffalo. They beat them. They're, they're playing Detroit. They're up 16, but then you lose to the Titans. You're in a one possession game against the Jags. I think the bigger issue, and again, I think that they are closer to the top teams in the AFC and they are the Jags, but they play to their competition. They're in games against Jacksonville. They lose a game against Tennessee. They lose it New York and then they be Buffalo. They should have be Detroit. So they're bipolar. Like it's, they're a weird team and it probably leads the inconsistency of them in a variety of different levels, offensively starting with the offensive line and then defensively, I think they're prone to the big play and then they're undisciplined. Like you look at all the penalties that they have. It's, it's an issue. Although it was better yesterday. It was better yesterday, but they were untimely the, the, the, and, and the undisciplined things reared their head again in terms of, yes, there wasn't excessive penalties, but the penalty, like the penalty on Stover for offensive offsides, which takes away and negates a big play by Nico that might have resulted in, you know, in a touchdown or a bigger, a better scoring drive. I don't even remember if they got points off that drive, but at the same time, it's those kind of things. It's the fact that we've been through this with El Shair regardless of what we, we've already talked about at length in terms of the hit itself. He's got to be smarter to realize they're a much better football team when he's on the field. The fact that he already did this once this year where he extended after the actual play in question. He went into their bench. He was swinging. He, he, he punched Roshan Johnson in the, in the face mask, uh, mess around, find out. But, but again, this is like the old philosophy that, that, that NBA coaches used to have with a goon on the end of their bench that would go in there just to pick a fight with the best player on the other team. Yeah. And if the best player was stupid enough to bite on it, then they win at the end of the day because they get the best player thrown out and a guy that's not very good. No, he's, he's going to hurt them against Miami. I got, there's no, there's no arguing that I agree with that, that viewpoint. But if you know this is who Aziz al Shire is, like, you're not going to change who run our testes. You know what I mean? You're not going to, you're not going to, you're not going to trade what Vernon Maxwell was. Like he, he was mad max. He wasn't not so mad max. And you take that knowing that he is mad max. Dameko knows who Aziz al Shire is. He knows he's capable of committing a personal foul. He knows he's capable of getting a one game suspension. If you know, things go against him, would you rather have that Aziz al Shire or not have that Aziz al Shire? No, I love al Shire and I've said that. But I think that overall this is, that's a microcosm of the bigger picture, which is the undisciplined nature of the fact that the penalties were supposed to be, oh, we were told they're going to be fixed. It's going to be resolved. And it hasn't been resolved in weeks on weeks on weeks where they led the league in penalties. I don't know if they still lead the league in penalties. It probably helped. They're talking three seconds. Yeah. I thought they said the broadcast third, either way, their way up there. It starts there. It's also the fact that, you know, it just seems like this coaching staff is going to say they're right things in front of the microphones, but are they truly doing what D'Amico said he's going to do this time with Al Shire, sit them down, go one on one, go face to face, have the hard conversation. We had his back today. The same way with the offensive line. Are you sitting there and literally having these really tough conversations about whether you want to blame yourself or blame the group as a unit, you have to be better. This is what we have to do. This is what we have to stop doing. It just seems like there's a level of not undisciplined coaching that's been going on all season long. I mean, they were, they were fourth and last year, they were, they were third in penalties right now. So I mean, the proof is in the pudding. Like you can't, you, that's fact. It's hard. It's hard not labeled. D'Amico's team as an undisciplined team. I would love to push back and love to argue because that's kind of what I do. I can't hear. I can't hear. That's the Trump card. All right. Seven, one, three, seven, eight, zero, ESP and HRP listener line. Let's talk about C.J. Stroud. What do we think of C.J. Stroud's performance yesterday? Great. Seven, one, three, seven, eight, zero, three, seven, seven, six. It's the B. Five, E.S.P. and ninety-two-five. E.S.P.A. Ninety-seven-five. You're locked in with a killer bees on ESP and ninety-seven-five at ninety-two-five. Live from the Veritex Community Bank Studios, here's Joel Blanken, Jeremy Branham. I have a love, hate, whenever you make coffee. Why? Because I drink all of it. I haven't stopped drinking it. It's pretty good today. It's drinking nonstop. Brian, I don't like coffee at all. Does it affect you? Yeah. Like sleep? No. I don't see you later in the day. That's right. It just makes my heart palpate or whatever that word is, palpate. I think it's palpate. Palpatate. Palpatate. I think it's palpate. Too many syllables. Too many syllables. It's a way too. Three syllables. Yeah, I can't eat anything more than two. It's tough for me. I'm a guy who talks for a living. Seven, one, three, seven, eight, zero ESPN. Great CJ Stroud. A couple of texts on the previous conversation. No discipline equals poor coaching. Hard to argue. Make no stake about this Texans team. It's the 2016 Astros that had a schedule like last year, still growing into the finished product. Tyler and Conroe, I hope the Tyler and Conroe is right. I do too. I just think that sometimes along the way, like this was a year when it might be the only year that you have digs. I mean, well, you don't have digs anymore. That's what I'm saying. And you don't have him. I don't know if you're going to have him going forward. But I do agree as a whole that this team, the clock got sped up because of how fast they progressed last year. That doesn't mean they're going to take a step back no matter what the end result is of this season. There's still enough talent on this roster. They can continue to get better. It's just that expectations were set pretty high this year because of what happened and how quickly they sped it up. Yeah. I guess if you're making the case that they're the 16 Astros, you need a lot of player development because you're probably in a better position this past year of signing free agents. Like you got you got the nil Hunter. You made the trade for digs. You acquired Joe mix and like they're not going to have the financial flexibility this coming off season that they had this past off season. So how do they grow like the Astros did? It would have to be because CJ shroud becomes the top three quarterback in the NFL. Will Anderson's the best pass rusher in the NFL. Derek Stingley is the best corner in the NFL. Nico Collins goes from a top seven receiver to a top three receiver. I think all those things are in play, but they're going to have more financial flexibility last off season than they will this off season because you spent on Al Shire. You spent spend on Autry. You were spending pretty freely to get some of the top names that were out there. Yes, you're going to hit on defense because it looks like Bullock and and Lasseter are going to be above average players. That's great. But you also missed on like your offensive line, you know, on some of your offensive line draft picks. And that's going to hurt you because you know that's one area that they're going to they're going to have to try and improve in the off season. I guess the Astros though wanted more of a player development than then veteran signings. They had some shrewd ones, Beltran, you know, because it taught him this, you know, the cheating thing. And then McCann, but it was mostly the homegrown talent sign. Morrowind. Are they trade for? They traded. That was the first move that Jeff Leno ever made. Jeff Leno's first ever player acquisition was Marwin Gonzalez. Oh, yeah. 9900 at the coffees causing heart palpitations. You should probably stop. I know. But I'm a fiend. I'm addicted and I can't. Can't do it. Texans beat the Steelers at home in the playoffs at home. I think that they it's a 50 50 game 50 50 game. It's coin flip. I think Matt might be the best defense they play this year and a little great yesterday against the Bengals. I think I think I think I think the Jets have a better defense actually. Not now. I think that they do still. I looked out this morning. It's crazy that you're top three. We think about that. We were worried last year about the Steelers pass rush when they were worried last year about the Steelers pass rush when they came in after I think it was through two weeks. The Texans had given up 11 sacks and looked like the worst offensive line. And then they held this year coming up having that defense come in against that offensive line. That would be a major concern. Jets are fourth. No, I mean, totally yards. I mean, it could kind of be, you know, misconstrued, but Jets are fourth Steelers are seventh. They've played a team that's in the top three lions or Vikings, neither one bills. Nope. Wait a minute, Tennessee, Tennessee Titan, second of the NFL and total defense, Philadelphia is number one. What would that spread be? Pittsburgh at NRG against the Texans in the first round of the course. Texans two and a half. Now, now Pittsburgh is kind of what I lean Pittsburgh is leading the division for what it's worth. So that wouldn't be the match up currently. You said Texans two and a half. I was going to put it like one and a half. One one. I mean, it's the same ballpark. Yeah. But I think they would be favored in that game. I do. I think it'd be, that's not a coin flip, but I think it'd be very, very close to a coin flip. Too many penalties for coaching preseason upgrades or receiver and offensive line next year were supposed to be strengths. Oh, he's talking about this year, but now weaknesses now, can they coach up what they have doesn't seem likely? I think at this point of the year, you're kind of who you are, but if you're looking at it from a 16 Astros comparison thing, you're going to have to make some shoot off season moves and they won't have the finances. So it's your point on who they would match up with though. Who scares you more? Have you have a better chance to be the Chargers or the Steelers? I'd rather face now, I'd rather play Pittsburgh than I would play that one's tough. I think they're very similar. I'll agree with that. I'll agree with them charges have a good defense to them. They do. And I think that I. Herbert scares me. That's exactly where I was going. Yeah. I think the coaching is about even, but it's Herbert's Christmas. Yeah, both are both are have great coaches. There's no doubt about that. I just think that Herbert at this stage in his career would worry me a lot more than Russell Wills. Right now you'd be playing the Chargers in the first round. That's what I said. Yeah. Texans is definitely favorite there. Probably more than field goal. Texans got to make sure they win the. I think it's the same. I think it's. I think it's about a point. Two and a half maybe. Maybe I can see three and a half. I can see three and a half. You get the Chargers. Yeah. Yeah. Point point it has probably fair. Pittsburgh and Chargers in a neutral field, he's favored. Steelers. Oh, I don't know. I think it's a maybe I think I think half a point. I think I've been saying one. I think charges. One and a half Steelers. Texas has got to make the playoffs first. Okay. All right. 713 78. You're on the hill. This is a guy that had the glass overwhelmingly glowing. I know. I told you I'm dying on the hill. I'm fully aware. I mean, they're going down the rest of the way. They're going to be at home at Kansas City, Baltimore at home at Tennessee who. Tennessee offense without El Shire is a different. Yeah. It's going to be tough because they throw the ball and they throw it over the middle and the Texans already struggle with stuff over the middle. Yep. Like that is going to be a big loss for them. All right. CJ shroud performance yesterday. What'd you think? Great. Man, I already said I thought he held onto the ball too long. I thought there were some throws that he normally makes. He didn't make. He got the win, but it was to me it was underwhelming. I wanted to see more against the defense that bad. I'm going to give him a C plus. Yeah. I could see where people would be a little bit down, even in a win, like the Jags defense isn't very good. You got good protection. Yeah. Like I saw DJ tweet that you have, he was averaging like three seconds to throw per drop back and it's very high for where the Texans have been. He was 22 or 34, 242 yards touchdown, no picks. A couple of the notes that I had on his performance for one CJ shroud, I felt that he was much more decisive actually. I thought he was making smarter plays. I thought he was quick getting rid of the football. There were a few times like Brian was talking about earlier where he was able to escape pressure, made some nice plays. He made one against the grain where he was in the grasp. That was an amazing play. Oh, he dumped it off to Nico. Yeah. But I think there was actually like a, I think there was a holding penalty in the secondary where the play didn't even count. That's the one where the guy was in his face ready to sack him and he somehow got the ball off. He had a bear behind him. He had a bear behind him. He got the ball off and got it where he needed to go. Amazing play. And there was one as well where he like. That's arm straight, Jeremy. He's got a good arm straight. He was able to escape through with either the B or C gap. I can't remember. Get to the sideline. And like I've been frustrated with CJ Shroud running too quickly because I think he's doing a good job sometimes of escaping the pocket when there's pressure in the pocket and he'll just run across the line of scrimmage as opposed to extending the play out, not crossing the line of scrimmage. Up and over. Sure. It just don't cross the line. Right. Like that's the main thing. Don't cross the line of scrimmage because what happens? The moment you cross the line of scrimmage, you lose the ability to throw the football. And I think he's been crossing the line of scrimmage too quickly at times, trying to be like this dual thread quarterback that Joe Nixon wants him to be. I want him to extend the play longer and allow his receivers to get open. And there was another play where he was able to do that. So I thought he made some good plays in that front. They were five for 13 on third downs. That's a win. They were one for one on their only fourth down conversion. I thought that he was pretty good. I will give him a B and then you won the game. You won the game. So I give him a B. Yeah. I think the grade on the curve factor plays in here because it's such a bad defense you're facing. You know, you pass for a good amount of yards. You're decently efficient, you know, with your completions and you didn't turn the ball over. The only thing that kind of nags in my mind and holds me back is that play that we talked about earlier where he had Schultz wide open in the flat and took a sack and knocked him out of field goal range. To me, that drops him down a little bit for me. I would have probably put him out of B, but I'm going to knock it down to a B minus strictly on that play. It was bad. Quarterbacking. What would I'm going to look for that one on the, on the field. It was first. It was the second drive of the game, second drive of the game. I think I'm pretty strong about the one where they took about it, it took him out of field range. It was definitely one of the first couple drives of the game wide open in the flat. Could have dropped it off, picked up five, six yards out of easy field goal. The offense was stagnant in the first half of that. That's six, three, a half time. Now I do give them credit though for finishing strong, give them credit for finishing strong. Part of the, part of the stagnation in the first half was though they couldn't run the ball between the tag. It was like, the only success they had run the ball was on the edge. Yep. They struggled early and then they started figuring some things out, moving the, moving the tight end in motion to kind of really help get to the edge. But for sure, they struggle. I thought one of the great to, to CJ's credit, once he realized he had that time though, there was some great video that they had of him where you could actually look at his eyes and see him going through the progressions and the fact that to DJ's point, he had time to get through his first four or five progressions and still go back and find guys. But to your point on, on, on Schultz, he also missed Joel mixed in a couple of times when he had the easy dump down and thought there was a bigger play to be had. And then it, then they ended up getting nothing a texture. The Texans are closer to the jags because it would be easier for them to be a worse team than a top one because to become a top team, they wouldn't just have to swap out players. They would need better coaches. So that texture's out on the Houston Texans coaching staff. Another texture. I'm much more worried about Wilson's deep ball than anything Herbert does. Herbert would choke in the playoffs. He's been in the playoffs and he didn't show. One playoff appearance that he gave up a, what, a 20 point lead, something like that? Yeah, it was like the 20 something point lead, I think. Yeah. Well, he, I know he's Lawrence had like what four or five intercept. It was a teller to have Herbert through four interceptions for the second half. Neither quarterback wanted to win. Trevor Lawrence was the worst playoff quarterback ever in the first half. And then Herbert's like, here you go. Hold my beer. I got it here in the second. Textors giving you some grief here, blankers, Texans favored against Pittsburgh, but they're closer to the Jaguars. Question mark? I, well, I mean, look, I think counterpoint. I think they're a talented team. Good job. Textors. But I think that they disappoint me in terms of what the I test shows me. 713 780. I also don't believe that much in the Steelers. Who are you giving game balls to? 713 78 0376. Who gets a game ball for their performance? You can count Thanksgiving games too, because we weren't on the air yet. So who do you get your game balls to in week 13 of the NFL season? 1378 0376. It's the BZSPN 975 ESPN 9225. Hey, before we go to the break, a word from my bookie dot AG still got a football game tonight. NFL game, if you're feeling a certain kind of way and you want to put some money down on it, I recommend you go to my bookie dot AG. My bookie dot AG is the place you want to be because they take care of you all the time while you're trying to bet on sports or play casino games. They have all the sports all the time and you can bet on them. They have live in game betting as well. They've got chats on their website and their app so that you can chat with like-minded individuals as you're looking to put money down and they're always trying to find out ways that they can take care of you as a customer. Therefore they're doing it again with a signup bonus. 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Hey, I'll be some good NBA player of the week in the Western conference. How about that from out? We're going to talk a lot about the Rockets this week. We're going to, I think we're just going to jump all the way on the Rockets. Why not? I mean, look, that was the game of the year last night for them. Yeah, for them. Big win. Big win over the Thunder. We're going to be all in the Rockets. I think we're going to, we're going to commit, we're going to commit to the Rockets. We're going to be first. Might not be right. We're going to be first. All right. We'll start with the shout out to our loyal Steelers fan Tamara. Russell Wilson was unbelievable yesterday, no matter what you think of where Russell Wilson is in his career. If he throws for 414 yards and three touchdowns in an NFL game, I don't care how bad Cincinnati's defense is. And they are awful. Yeah, that's worthy of a game. You know, I thought Russell Wilson was overrated two years ago and I was right. I think he's underrated now. I think Russell Wilson's underrated now. I think that's that's true. I could not believe I heard Rex Ryan continually stand on his soapbox yesterday and say that he still wants Justin Fields because if you watch anything and know anything about it. Who said that? Rex Ryan yesterday on Sunday countdown, he still wants and believes in Justin Fields more than Russell Wilson. I don't know how you can say that. No matter how much you question when Tomlin made the switch, Russell Wilson has been unbelievable. He's changed the complexion of the entire offense just the way he's played all year. And I do believe he's underrated this year. Yeah, he was. He was very good. He was washed. Yeah. I mean, he was. And then he like got re-washed somehow. Aziz Alshire gets a game ball. It's easier to beat a backup quarterback. I'm just kidding. Oh, I'm kidding. I'm kidding because we don't give game balls to Texans. This is an NFL segment. That's the only reason I wouldn't give a game ball to Aziz. Sam Laporta, two touchdown game for Sam Laporta. Now it's an interesting game. He had like one person in the arts. No, not even that. Sam Laporta had three catches for six yards and two touchdowns. This is why fantasy football is stupid. Yes, I'm in 199 fantasy football leagues, but he had three catches for six yards and two touchdowns. He had a amazing day at three catches and six yards, but he fell in the paint twice. That's crazy. What a day. What a day. What a day. For Sam Laporta. Speak of another fantasy football. DJ Reader. Two sacks, by the way. I'm going to give my first game ball to because it helped me and I loved it. Josh Allen became the first quarterback in NFL history to throw a touchdown, run for a touchdown, and receive a touchdown and on one play, he got credit for both a passing touchdown and a receiving touchdown. Two touchdowns on one play. Thank you, Josh Allen. But he did not get credit for a catch. It's not the catch. Yeah, because I believe it was Amari Cooper caught the ball and then picked her to him. So Cooper got the catch, but Allen, because it was a pass, got a receiving touchdown, then he also threw to himself. He got a double on that. Yeah. A double banger as the boys in the morning would go. He scored three touchdowns, got credit for four. Is he the first to ever do that? First quarterback. I find that. Okay. I find that. Still find that hard to believe. Running backs have done like. Yeah, they said that there's like a handful of guys. Yeah, the Danny Talmansons done it. And there's, I think another running back like in recent like post 2000 that has done it. Oh, Chris McCaffrey's done it. I can't believe that. Yeah. That's the first one. You see his MVP odds, it's got to be one at this point. I think it's like, I think it's like minus 350. He's got to be one. I think one's going to get love rightfully. So I think Lamar's out. They're only eight and five. A big year for Josh Allen engaged, probably going to MVP next, they're going to flame out the host season. Yeah, it was from, she was from the Sopranos, wasn't she? I don't know who we've got to get to so I can tell you it's like a Steinbrenner. Yeah. Hailey Steinfeld. I think. He's me. Who's your next game ball to? I'm going to go with Bucky Irving. Good one. He's good. Yeah, he basically ran his tail off 152 yards in a touchdown, set him up an overtime after the turnover. Got the Buccaneers win against a very scrappy Carolina team and Carolina got hosed on a call. Adam feeling touchdown was looked like legit and even after replay, they didn't give it to him. But Bucky Irving was pretty damn good for the buck. I love Bucky Irving. That was a great pick. I'm going to bang the table this offseason for the Houston Texans to use some draft capital on a running back. The value of the running back is going up again. I've got no depth. Like think about it too. Like look at some of the better teams in the NFL. They, not all of them, some of them have two running backs. Look at the Lions. The Lions, they're weapons. Like stop looking at them as running backs. Start looking at them as offensive weapons. You can play Joe Nixon in another young running back. The Buccaneers are doing it. Rashad White's not terrible. He's not great, but he's not. He's better receiver than runner. Yeah. That combination's doing a lot of good things. They've lost. He was Sean Tucker. He's in Kansas City. You lose Pacheco, but you're able to go out and get a Kareem Hunt and Kareem Hunt has more than carried his own while Pacheco was out and you can go to both of them now. Yeah. I believe in offensive weapons. I feel like this whole running back shouldn't be paid. No offensive weapons. Do you wish the Texans would have signed Saquon Barkley this year instead of Stefan Diggs? Does the Cowboys and retrospect wish that they would have signed a Derek Henry instead of saying he wouldn't fit their system? You get a little Henry and Doutle. Not bad. Yeah. I think that the Texans to draft the running back. Well, did you see that of the four best running backs in the NFL? Three. Three of them were Saquon and Josh Jacob. Josh Jacob. Yeah. Three of them were just out there on the open market for anybody to go get. I mean, it makes it even on the open market. Now, not of course. No, he was trading for us. But he was going to be on the open market. Yeah. I mean, anybody could have traded for him. Terry Maclaurin, a catcher, 73 yards, two touchdowns and a win over the hungover Titans. Titans won their Super Bowl last week. They got fat and happy after winning their Super Bowl last week and then they got boat raced by the commanders. Yep. You still mind, but I'll go to Thanksgiving game and you just mentioned the name Rico Datto. I mean, he was great on Thursday. Rush for what was 112 and got a touchdown and the Cowboys went over the Giants. I'm going to go Ladd McConkey. Didn't have a touchdown, but 117 yards receiving. Number one. Yeah. I mean, the fact is, is the guy has been fantastic all season long and a main reason why the charges are as good as they are. But he had a phenomenal football. Yeah. He's pretty good. Uh, next one on my list. Did you all mention James Cookette? I was googling. No, no. I was googling who Jamie Lynn Sigler was dating. She used to date Mark Sanchez. I got Mark Sanchez. I'm Josh Allen. Now she's doing fuses for like, like all the different drug companies that do to help you get out of health problems and she used to be everybody used to think she was like a sex symbol. Oh, yeah. The one from the Sopranos. Yeah. I forget. The actress to play Tony's daughter. Yeah. Okay. She used to date Mark Sanchez. I didn't know that. I shouldn't have done that. It's a bad mistake. Hailey Steinfeld's best known for her work in True Grit and Pitch Perfect and apparently Spider-Man. True Grit's a great movie. I don't remember her in those movies at all. That's the John Lane remake. Well, yeah. That was about a decade ago. She must have been a child at that point, right? Oh, you know what? Now I do remember her. She was the child. Yeah. She was the child. I do remember that. Yeah. Cause that movies. I've been watching Landman. Oh, yeah. Hailey Billy Bob. No. It's on Paramount. Oh, okay. The Billy Bob though, right? Yeah. Yeah, Billy Bob. Yeah. Highly recommend. Weird at times. But I highly recommend it. James Cook 14. 107-1. Really good game. One touchdown was. I don't know. It was fun to watch. It was fun to watch. But you got to sympathize. They were right. Collinsworth was right. You can't change directions in that snow. I mean, it is just straight line everything from routes run to the way around. So it's 49er. Yeah. That's exactly right. I mean, the Caffney was killing them until he got hurt every time they handed the ball to him and he was getting six, seven yards or more. I posted the video. It looked like his calf exploded and then they said it was his knee and he hit it on the play previous. I don't know. Can it be both? Classic non-contact. Yeah. He's second. He took the snap. He just crumpled. He sure did. I mean, they never lie about injuries in San Francisco though. So I take them for their word. What's next for you, Brian? I'll give one because I know Joe won't do it. I'll give it to Jordan Love, two seventy four two and the Packers win on over the Dolphins on Thanksgiving night. The Packers not limping into the playoffs, so not limping again. They almost did. They almost caught that game back up. They let the Dolphins get too close for a while. Then they luckily got a fourth down stop. Oh, no. Come on. They're not going to limp in. One more around the horn. Mike Evans also 118 yards and. You get two game balls in the Buccaneers. I meant to mention it when I mentioned bucky Irving, and we went by him too fast. Oh, I'll give my last game ball to Tarheb still. Two interceptions, pick six, three PBUs, Tarheb still should win. What team does he play? Tarheb still should win the defensive player of the week. You don't know what team Tarheb still plays? Nope. I bet you'd be handed knows which team Tarheb still plays for. That's right. He was the best player. You know, the Chargers did not have an offense touchdown. Yeah. They won that game without an offense touchdown. You know who led them in touchdowns? Tarheb still. Yeah. Tarheb still. Oh, Tarheb. My last one goes to Saequan Barkley. I think the only other person that could take MVP from Josh Allen, another great, not as great as obviously running for like two 50 against the commanders the week before, but 170 yards of the touchdown and their, if their win over the Ravens. Oh, no. Don't count Lamar out yet. His mama said he needs to run more and he said he's coming out with a vengeance after the five. Eight and five. I mean, he's, I think he's out of the MVP race. Hot tank. Josh Allen wins the MVP. Saequan Barkley wins the offensive player. I could see that because the MVP is not a running back award. I think it's true. I can see how it's coming out. The texture says Joe Mixon game ball made history. What history do you make? Yeah. I see. I don't know if he made history because they said, I think they said five plus. There's only three running backs in the history of the NFL that went five plus road games with a hundred yards and a touchdown. And everybody would assume because this was his six that he surpassed them. I don't know if that's the case. I thought the graphics at five plus, yeah, that's, that's a weird stats. It's like doing the three legged sack race on Sundays to break a tie. Like you're starting to go down in the lead that he needed that last rush to that got up that closed out the victory to barely squeak over a hundred and the last one bowers best tied into the game right now. 10 for 140 and a touchdown. Yeah. But we don't give game balls to losers. No, texture. Although he is a stud. All right. Mark Andrews is starting to look better and better late in the season to win that battle. Who is that pet? All right. Car wreck of the day. Who you nominated for? Car wreck of the day 7 1 3 7 8 0 3 7 7 6 B's on ESPN 97 5 and ESPN 92 5 for the go to the break. One final word for doc Lindville and his staff because of the fact that he can get your hair back when you think that it's gone and it can only be forgotten. You get your hair back. Thanks to the good people that work with doc Lindville and he is the best in the business. He's right here in the med center. 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No she knows her stuff and she's not afraid to say it. Did you say it like she shouldn't know her stuff? No you're trying to start something that's not there. Alright what are you? You saw the grass covering the pit, you almost far-fried into it at all. And then I avoided it. What are you dominating for Car Wreck of the Day? Sorry Brian. Justin Tucker. It's the greatest kicker in NFL history. Is it fitting that he's melting down when the A&M Texas rivalry came back. This kind of launched him into stardom, hit that walk off but now he's fading away when he came back. Did you see the bleep starters too that started to say this all started when he messed around with Mahomes in warm-ups that game and they ran a stat that said he was a 90% accuracy kicker before he screwed with Mahomes pre-game and now he's a 73% kicker. Yeah he's been awful. There's no way around it. I think when that game he was responsible for what, seven points? Two field goals and a missed extra point? Something like that, yeah. Do you bring in a new kicker? I don't think you can. Why not? You're trying to win? Who's the arch that got him in Dola? Yeah exactly. Before I knew what the outcome of the game was when he missed the second field goal after missing the other two kicks, I was like, do you just hire him and let him get right for next year? Can we give him a host of you to pray you some of Miami? Just say like you pull something out of the family? Yeah. But you know, you still honor the fact that he's been so nails for you with his entire career, but it could cost him. Yeah. It's going to be interesting. I don't think that they're going to move on from either, especially Harbaugh's special teams guy. I'm going to nominate the Bears. How do you let Iber Flush talk to the media and then you fire him? That's better. Fire somebody with class please. Don't make them work on the day that you're firing them. That was bad. That was awful. Awful. Look, because he was already saying how they were working on things. Brutal. That was terrible. What do you nominate? Uh, John McLean for saying this was the worst hit in NFL history was I, I, I, I sided on the side of it. It was dirty and that disease could have wooded, but worse hit in NFL history. That's where my biggest was dirty late here. Yeah. Worst ever. Come on, man. Alex Carrick of the day, the wide receiver that pushed disease in the back while he was on the ground. The man wait till he gets up and is looking at him soft, I like that. That was an engra. It wasn't semantics. Carrick of the day, the overreaction from the Azizal Shire hit. That's from Josh from Seabrook. I nominate the tradition that dates back to 1907, the Texas A&M yell leaders all went off on them and then Ohio State Carrick of the day. What's winning? Yes, I don't know how you can shine, but anything other than John McLean. Congrats, John. You winner. You win it. Carrick of the day belongs to you. 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