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They would show pressure, drop into a blitz, and then or drop into zone, and then blitz out of that. Like they were doing all sorts of different things and it worked. It worked. The pick six that Cousins threw was like, what the hell? He sees the guy there who's getting ready to pick the ball off. Hey, Kirk Cousins, it's rare you see him play like he did yesterday. We all know, yeah, he might not be throwing laser beams and sidearm, highlight, you know, bombs down the field and all that. But one thing he always does is makes good decisions and puts the ball kind of where it's supposed to be yesterday. He looked flustered. He looked confused. There's some of your disguise you're talking about right there. Kind of showed the blitz. They dropped back into his own. I don't know. Cousins doesn't recognize it, but I thought he threw the ball and the guy was there even then. I just, there was a few plays and throws during the game where you just go, I've never seen Kirk Cousins make a decision that bad. I mean, he threw the ball into a mosh pit a number of times yesterday, let alone the arm looked a little weak yesterday. The ball fluttered in the air Atlanta played better than the chargers, right? It goes back into the old adage. You don't always have to go win a football game. Sometimes teams just find a way to lose it. And that kind of what it felt like yesterday. I mean, from the get go, the first drive of the game Kirk Cousins, they drive down the field. He's got a wide open pass over the middle for a touchdown. They miss it and then it ends up missing a short chip shot field goal. But look at some of these plays, these decisions. I mean, it's just not what your accustomed is seeing for one of the better pocket passing quarterbacks we've seen in football over the last 10 years. So that was shocking. And in a day where it felt like the chargers offense did not have it. They couldn't run the ball. No Josh Dobbins, right? Trying to find their way past in the football. JK Dobbins, Josh, Josh Dobbs. But I think on that kind of day, yeah, the chargers offense didn't have it, but the defense came through in a big way and they were clutch. Three straight games without a touchdown for the first time in his career. They had two wins in a row. They beat the Buccaneers and the Cowboys. He had seven touchdowns and no interceptions in those two games. Yeah, three straight losses since and they were six and three. They were sitting pretty. They got the division in hand. There's nobody else that's going to challenge them loss and loss and loss. And it started with that loss to the Saints, which they should have won. They outplayed the Saints and should have won that game, right? Blown out off the field, going into the by against the Broncos. And I just wonder like. Yeah, where's the psyche? Like did it? Did that just break them? Did they think, you know what? All we really can do here is win this division. And who cares? We're going to go get embarrassed by somebody in the playoffs. And I know that they don't entertain those thoughts consciously. This is the stuff that can kind of creep in subconsciously. Yeah, like, yeah, we, yeah, we can, yeah, we can, and deep down, you know, at some level of your being, yeah, and where this isn't, we still have more work to do to get to be the team that can compete with the Eagles. And even though they beat the Eagles, that was a long time ago. We too, different world. The Lions, right? Yeah. And they're going to find out this week. This is going to be tough for them, riding a three game losing streak in to Minnesota for the Kirk Cousins homecoming game. I asked Cam Bynum about this, who's got the edge? You guys know Kirk, Kirk knows you. He thinks it's a wash. I think that the defensive coordinator who's there now, Brian Flores, was just there for one year with Cousins. And we can see, I mean, Flores is going to devour every nanosecond of film from yesterday and try to duplicate what the Chargers did to mess with Kirk or, or figure out how Kirk will react to what happened yesterday and stay a step ahead of him. And you know, this is all we zig, we zag, they think we're going to zag, we zig. Oh, wait, we're figuring to do that. So we do this and, you know, and just confuse him. Come up with a way to confuse him because he can be confused. That's what we saw yesterday. Yeah, can be confused. It's rare. You see that. But yeah, he was confused. And yeah, Minnesota confuses a lot of people. Hey, the bottom line is this. We know the Chargers need more out of their receivers on offense, right? We know that the other part of this is to Atlanta and just to switch it there. And is Atlanta's offense has to be better. Atlanta's offense is where a lot of the assets are. It's, it's Kyle Pitts. It's the top by pick. It's Drake London. It's a top by 10 pick. It's Bijon Robinson, top 10 pick. It's Kirk Cousins, 90 bazillion gazillion dollars. The offensive lines got first rounders and money everywhere for them to be laying eggs like six points in Denver. And yesterday, 13 points, that is the problem with the football team right now. Their defense isn't supposed to be the part of the team that carries them. Their defense is at its best. And when they were winning games, when the offense was scoring points, the defense would bend and Rahim Morris and then would do something creative to kind of get one turnover to give the Falcons offense one more possession the other team. And that's when they went as we've seen here late, people are starting to catch on the offense. And Mike, here's the other thing I'll just throw out to you. All those names I mentioned mentioned, they're not an explosive offense. It's always work for them to go down the field as good as Bijon Robinson is. He's just full of eight and 10 yard runs. He misses the extra rocket up his ass like like Jimmy or Gibbs. Yeah, Jimmy or Gibbs is better than Bijon Robinson for that from that fact. Ever want to stretch it was I know I put them in the same tier and people thought I was crazy that I put them in the same tier. But yeah, that's their problem. Every drive is 11 plays 65 yards, 12 plays 68 yards. They can never take the pressure off. Nobody can catch a slant and run for a touch and do any of that. And that's coming back to bite them in the butt right now. You're right, the charges need more work to do. They should have won that game by by when you when you force four interceptions and allow no touchdown passes, you should win by double digits. No, they're off. Yeah, you're right. They're offenses. It's it's a lad. And we saw it. We saw it on Monday night when they were trying to wheel their way back and try to get them against the wrongs and y'all and all that, but Johnson's dropping passes. Exactly. They just don't have the guys to go along with Justin Herbert and Herbert has this is a very obscure stat. But I like it 10 straight games without an interception. Third guy ever to do that with 15 or more attempts on average, wow, I'm Brady and Derek Carr, the other two to go 10 games without an interception with that many throws. Stay in the course running the offense. Not going. I got a Jim Harbaugh. That's Harbaugh. Right. Hey, if he's open, just throw it to him. Don't worry that we haven't been doing good or don't feel the pressure that you got to make the play. I got a team around you now, Justin Herbert. We're not the Chargers. We don't charge her anymore. We're the Chargers and we make the Falcons look like they're the Chargers. That's what we do now. And that's what they're doing and you know, good for Justin Herbert. But yeah, they definitely need some more weapons around him as they go forward. We just came up briefly last night on football night in America. At what point do they have the conversation about benching cousins from Michael Penic Jr. How many more losses, how many more games without a touchdown pass and multiple interceptions before they say, let's just see what the guy that we believed in with the eighth overall pick can do. I feel like it was going to be hard with them because they're going to be in the conversation here because the NFC South is so wide open like we talked about in the NFC West before where they're going to be in this. And I don't know if you're really doing justice to Michael Penics by throwing him out there in that kind of, hey, it's the end of the year now. And hey, we're still in this. And you know, you're kind of you're putting them in a very tough spot is what I'm saying. I don't know if I wanted to do that. No lose. Well, it is lose if you feel like you can still go to the playoffs and do that. And then you don't go to the playoffs and maybe he doesn't look good. And then we go in the off season going, man, her cousin's dog and now Michael Penis didn't even look good at the end of the year. What the hell is going on there? And Penis. I know. I'm Penis. It was a little close there. I'm just speaking fast. It's an important letter change. Yeah. But at least at least you didn't pronounce for annunciated or pronounced it the same way. How about this twist on the situation? Yeah. They stick with cousins. They don't make the playoffs. Yeah. Okay. What happens next year? Yeah, that's that's going to be it. I think we'll see Michael Penics. Yeah. Yes. Because that that's where they'll try to make a move. Something will happen when they when they drafted him eight overall. And all this could be three years, four years, five years that he's on the bench. Well, it's not going to be more than three. No, it won't be more than three. It won't be more than two. The question is, will it be two or will it be one? That's right. And I think it comes down to the next five games. I would agree with that. Her cousins controls, whether it's going to be two years on the bench, right, for Michael Penics Jr. or one. And he's got a very tradable contract. I know he's got to know trade clause. But if the choices are you stay here in your bench or you go somewhere else and you play, that no trade clause ends up potentially getting waived because he's going to want to play. Period. Or the next thing you know, you're treated like Daniel Jones. Yeah, you're here, but you don't get any practice reps. Sure. And you have a curtailed lifting program. And at some point, you're going to beg them to trade you. So I think the rest of this season, and even if they make the playoffs, like if they make the playoffs at eight, nine, or nine, and eight, and they lose badly in the wildcard round, I think we're in the same spot as if they don't make it anyway. But all of a sudden, three games, like we focus on different things during football season and different things capture our attention. And we kind of forget about this. And we forget about that. We kind of put to rest the idea that Penics is going to supplant cousins sooner than later because cousins was good enough early on. And now it's like we wake up. It's December 2nd. It's like, yeah, right. Michael Penix Jr. Right. Might be the starter sooner than later, not this year necessarily, but week one of 2025. Because it's going to be hard to justify a second year with Kirk that door is open. If this year continues on the path that it's currently on. And he can change everything. That's the beauty of this six days to Sunday. He can change everything, reverse the narrative for a game that I think a lot of people be paying attention to, even though it didn't get top billing on Fox, it was Panthers at whoever is like the, like when they prioritize the games on the graphic, it's like, I think Falcons at Vikings are pretty significant game. Yeah, yeah. Definitely better than Panthers anything for sure. Yeah, exactly. Although Panthers box yesterday, it was a fun game to talk about. Yeah. It was a fun game. And I got to give the Carolina Panthers credit. They have not folded the tents. They do not go away quietly. And Bryce Young has improved. Definitely. As a result of this benching, I think, oh, it's Panthers. He goes by the way next week. That's why I got taught. But Bryce Young gets bench for a while. And I think we now need to revisit this notion that you, you cannot, you cannot bench a young quarterback, lest you ruin him. You know, if you can't come back from being benched, can you ever be the guy? No. Can you ever be expected to deal with any adversity if you can't deal with the adversity of being benched? You'd be looked at a soft mentally soft can overcome it can handle adversity. All the things you're talking about, right? I mean, this is, this has become a thing just in the last few years, because we've gotten obsessed with quarterback and every win goes to the quarterback and every loss goes to the quarterback and it's quarterback quarterback quarterback. And I blame Manning and Brady for that, you know, generally, because they were so good for so long. But, but people forget is like the damn teams they were on were damn good too. It wasn't just quarterback quarterback. I know where there was their names at front and center and they were awesome, like two with the five best ever, right? We know that. But damn, they were on good teams too. So everyone's kind of taken that over in this era and just gone, well, if they don't win, it's the quarterback's fall. And we're, we're, I hope we're seeing, we're seeing a lot of quarterbacks on new teams when they get to the better team, they look a lot of better. But we grew up in an era where nobody played, everybody got benched early on. We, we made fun of this the other day was that on the potter last Monday. I mean, John Elway got benched. Terry Bradshaw got benched. Benched and unbenched and rebenched and was benched. I mean, Montana was benched after he won two Super Bowls. They were like, you're not good anymore. Get Steve Young in here. And then he went back in and kicked butt again. I mean, that's the way it was. You had to earn your rights. So yeah, and Branks Young is bounced back in a big way. That's the great thing about having the young quarterback in the first year head coach. They're not going to give up because they're trying to build something. They got other young guys that are trying to prove their worth and show that they're, they're going to have a niche on this football team as they go forward. And the way they, they're often aligned and the way they can run the ball is scarce teams. And it leads to some favorable pass looks and Branks Young's been taking advantage of that in the past game. The NFC South is down to a two team race. It is much tighter in the NFC West. We mentioned that earlier, superlatives next focusing on a division where it really is up for grabs. And even the team in last place has a chance to win the whole thing. I feel like we didn't give the Bucks their due there. And they want to give the Bucks their due. Yeah. Well, we can, we can, I don't have to throw a break. They can stop the music. I just feel like we got to talk about, Hey, Bucky Irving, what he's doing. I'm just trying to, I'm trying to fall. I know. But we just got to give them a little love. Right. Didn't play their best football yesterday. Certainly let up some plays on the defensive side of the ball. We're not looking good, but hung in there. Baker Mayfield, Bucky Irving, Rashid White, you know, making big plays and big moments. And then Mike Evans, of course, shows himself as well. That was a day yesterday again. We've talked about it. It's probably about the fifth game so far. Team that played better didn't win the football game. It felt like Carolina played the better brand of football all day. But the Bucks hung around, kept the game close, and then we're clutch at the end to make it all happen and win the football. I wonder how much of the resilience that we saw from the Bucks was fueled by the fact that they knew the door was open for them to catch the Falcons because it was a four o'clock game. Well, maybe, maybe. I mean, listen, you definitely pay attention to that stuff when you're on the sidelines and you see scores up on the stadium's scoreboard and all that. You're aware of that. But that was a big win for them, you know, in a day where it didn't look like they were playing their best football and they got it done. Baker Mayfield got twisted up on a sack. He thought he injured his Achilles, missed a couple of plays, came back through an interception right away, but they did gut it out. They they kicked the 51 yard field goal to force overtime when it looked like the Panthers had won the game and then missed field goal by Chase McLaughlin on the first drive of overtime. Panthers looked like they were going to get something going. There was a great catch on the sideline by Adam Thelin, Chewah Hubbard fumbles on the next play and the Bucks went down. And also I noticed a pool report and this is an example of one of these regional games where you don't have the full complement of cameras. There was a potential touchdown catch by the Panthers at one point, Adam Thelin at the back of the end zone and that look the guy Mark Butterworth, who's in charge of the replace that we didn't have enough. We didn't have enough cameras. We didn't have the ground. We didn't have the play pretty close. He looks like he's in. It's all about surviving the ground and that that aspect of it was very interesting. It was a tough call. And the bottom line is games like that don't have the benefit. The same number of total mechanical eyes that can see with the kind of clarity necessary to confirm or debunk the ruling on the field. All right, now we'll take a break. As I said earlier, NFC West superlatives when PFT Live presented by Accenture continues right after this. You know what I call the Monday show now, I call it the Sasquatch sighting. And look who's here. You know, it's kind of like seeing a Sasquatch only with a lot less hair and a lot bigger head. Okay, you're one day a week coming soon Sasquatch returning Sasquatch to my left. What up? Hello, I'm Sasquatch Chris Sims. I heard you in Sasquatch talking about the teams Monday. All I said is let's go with the gift of Sasquatch dancing. That's all you said. I said nothing about you. I'm a big dumb animal. I'm Sasquatch. This is Dr. Doom. Welcome to PFT. All right, see you later. See you tomorrow. Sasquatch out. Help you for you. Awesome Sasquatch back. There he is. That was him walking in today. Me want to talk about football. You can't we can't call to Sasquatch sighting anymore. You're back to your your usual in season three days a week. There was a time when it was four days a week in season. Right. Then it became three days a week. Well, when I started doing a Sunday night podcast and getting on it was it was when you started doing the Sunday night football final. That was one that took you away from me. You're right. We had a year without you on Monday. And it's like, what the hell? Like Mondays the day to do it. So finally, we got you back on Mondays. But then they took you from me. Yeah. This year. Yeah. For two days a week. Right. Down to one. Yep. And I was back now. Look at that. And here's the thing. I was my hand on the chest. I was very unhappy about it. And I voiced my concerns loudly. Yes. Internally. You did. And I won't say anything more about it now lest I be fired. But now that I've completely adjusted my routine and the viewers have adjusted their routines. And now he's back. I can deal with it. But I know what's going to happen. But still, even when people were sending emails saying that they like this new what I've called the Kellogg's serial variety pack drag wrap, right, that they still would say at the end, hey, I like the new thing. I like Michael. I like this. But I still want Sasquatch back. So he's here. Yeah. Sasquatch is back three days away. Yeah. It will be four once the season finally ends. And it'll be five for that one week that we're in New Orleans. Oh, of course. We're going to New Orleans. Good Super Bowl. Before you know it. Yeah. Before you know, that's the thing. We're into the holiday season now. And by the time we get through the holidays, it's like rocket through the postseason and Super Bowl week. And if they're very at the calm, I believe we're going to know it. I believe it. Carry on is an edge of your seat action thriller that follows a young TSA agent who's blackmailed into an impossible situation at the height of Christmas Eve travel pandemonium. Either let a dangerous package slip through security and risk the lives of many or save the passengers and risk the life of his pregnant girlfriend. Starring Taren Edgerton, Sophia Carson and Jason Bateman carry on is a holiday thrill ride with nail biting nonstop action and suspense. Watch carry on only on Netflix December 13th. Rated PG-13. 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The last time the Cardinals won in Minnesota, that was like a 14-year gap before the Cardinals played in Minnesota. 1991 on every time they played in Minnesota, the Vikings have won and the Vikings pulled it off yesterday. Down in 1906 in the second half, finally, it turned on. The Boo Birds were out. I was questioning, when did Daniel Jones ready to go for Sam Darnold? And that's what impressed me the most. They settled down. They put together a touchdown drive, made it 1912, right? 1912? Yeah. Yeah. 1913. 1913. And then they just continued to chip away and it was ultimately 22-16 late in the game. Vikings drive down, they get the touchdown. And I thought they left too much time. They put the clamps on Kyler Murray and company. They didn't even get a first down on that final drive. They had a chance to go down and win the game with just a field goal. Yeah. No. Well, I mean, it's my superlative and it's presented by Accenture. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, there it is. There it is. There it is. Thank you. I got so excited to talk about the lecture. I got you. Okay. Don't worry. The guys. Sasquatch had you covered. Okay. Accenture. But my, this is great that I have the superlative because my superlative for Vikings defeating the Cardinals is up yours, Floria, up yours, Floria. That was a direct text I got from Sam Darnold. He told me to say that. Did he really? No. No. I went too bad. I wish he'd be my freaking, I would have showed that and go, look at this. This is the greatest text I ever got. I picked the bike. He's a win. I know. But you're damn. You've wanted to trade them. You've wanted Matthew. I don't want to trade him. I wanted to bench him. Okay. There's so much better. Thank you. Air. He was big moment. Yes. They weren't at their best yesterday, but clutch drive to go down. And we said, we were in the viewing room, right? Arizona had to make a decision there. I think they had a fourth in goal from the four. Do you kick the field load or do you go for this touchdown? And what did you say? I said, well, what did you say? I said, I'd kick the field and go to up six and make Sam Darnold have to have the pressure and go down and score a touchdown. Wait, wait, that's right. Up your Sims. Love Sam. Yeah. Well, he proved it that he could do it. And that was, that was, that was a big moment, a big try for him. That is, I think, a moment though that will change your locker room a little. It's another little thing and notching his belt where the team's gonna go to him. You know, hey, we're down. He can bring us back. He's cool. He's got, you know, ice in his veins that way. And that will go over with guys certainly and give your team more confidence as you go forward. The trend that he established early in the year was they would be up multiple scores in games. Yes. And then we get down to a one score game and he would find a way to slam the door on the comeback. Yeah. And he did that multiple times. You might have let them come back a little bit up until the Lions game. Yeah. That was the one game when the narrative broke. They didn't slam the door. It was a third and four play and it was a bad throw and the Lions had a chance to win the game after that. But yesterday was down 13, first time in his career, he's ever come back from a deficit of 13 or more points. And when in doubt, when you get into that as Jason Garrett would call it nut cutting time, which always makes me squirm a little bit, even though I'm not sure that's specifically what he's referring to. Throw it to Justin Jefferson. That was the one thing that Kirk Cousins got wrong in the playoff game against the Giants. He throws it three yards short of the sticks to TJ Hockinson when Justin Jefferson always doubled. No, he's the safety's flat footed. He's running by the safety. He's gone. You win the game. Yeah. If you throw it to Justin Jefferson there and Sam Donald first play, boom, Justin Jefferson and looking for Justin Jefferson, that was a key fourth down at some point in the fourth quarter. What do you do? You throw it to Justin Jefferson. Yeah, because you know in those moments he's going to rise up. You put it close enough, he'll go get it. So yeah, I got to give him credit. I got to give him credit. And it was funny because my son was texting me yesterday, like they're going to do this. And it's not too bad. And I was, I, that was yesterday was one of the few days where I actually believed that they were going to win the game. Then I didn't even doubt it. It's like they're going to win this game. They're going to win this game. It wasn't their best game. They were again, we named it off to start the show. It was one of the five games yesterday where you got the team that lost probably outplayed the team that won. Definitely about that big moment in this where it was 19 six. You were down by 13 like you talked about great drive to go down the football field. A bunch of 15 yard passes, boom, score, make it 19 13. This was to me the, the play of the day. 1913 Cardinals are starting to drive Kyler Murray scrambles. He realizes I have nowhere to run. He's going to throw the ball out of bounds. And he doesn't get it out of bounds. And it gets intercepted. And that allowed the Vikings to then go down and score and make it 1916 to me. That was a moment of the game where they could have chewed up more clock. It looked like they were on the move once again. And that suede momentum or at least a chances of you guys coming back more into your favor. I thought that was a big play. Yeah, that was a big play and a big win 10 and two somehow the Minnesota Vikings are. And as we mentioned earlier, cousins coming to town. I cut the cousins. I like it. I cut the cousins. Seahawks, Jets, my superlative. He could go all the way, even if he doesn't believe it. That Leonard Williams played that moment that those two plays. That's the game. Yes. 217. The Jets are up. Right. The second fumbled kick return of the game by the Hawks. Special team shitshow. Right. It was the city was seven. They got a short field. Right. You want to lay it out? Go ahead. Wow. Double move. Derek Wilson wide open in the end zone. Right. Wide open in the end zone. And Aaron Rodgers just misses him. Just misses it. Throws it safe like it. He's like he's in the tightest man to man coverage. Well, and he had somebody bearing down on him. And that's what Leonard Williams said after the game. He's older and he doesn't like getting hit. And somebody texted me after we said that last night on football, America said, you know, Leonard's right because that's that's kind of what's happened. Yeah. And then on the next play after the missed opportunity to go up 28 to 7, the tip, the catch and off he goes. And Leonard Williams told me about the 50s like, when is someone going to catch me? And then he realized I got the left sideline. Nobody's catching me there. To my right. I got a bunch of guys they're going to have to get through if they're going to stop me. I asked him, you ever run 92 yards on a football field before? He said, I've never run that far in my life. So he was gassed. He had the touchdown. He had the two sacks at halftime. Aaron Rodgers said I gave you an early Christmas gift. And yeah, he's going to he's probably going to be sleeping with that football bronze in that football. That was his first career touchdown. And that was the moment that the game changed. Yeah, it was. That was a huge moment of the football game. And this is another game where again, the Jets probably were the better team on the field for the majority of the day, but they just they've found ways to be the Jets and mess up every situation where there's the last drive of the game and their defense commits penalties on fourth down to keep the drive going. I don't do we have the Rogers overthrow TD? I thought we did because I would love to show that. I think we could real quick because again, I mean, you know, I've been one to make this point for a while here that Rogers, yes, throwing the ball quick, not hanging the pocket, not aggressive decisions. Yeah, the AG doesn't want to get hit. He also wants to be safe with the football. But here's the play. It's second and eight. It's a double move. I mean, you just nailed it, put it on them, put it on them. And like if we can rewind it one more time to show it again, I don't depreciate that bad. No, no, no, he's seeing ghosts. He's seeing ghosts. Okay. So like that, you see, you can see it coming from behind like see that guys coming from his left. I think he's like, I got to get rid of this because it's starting to the walls are starting to maybe possibly close in. I think so too. So wait. So, so here we go. We're going to be safe with this throw to wide open receiver. And then the next play, he overcompensated and throw into a mosh pit of Seahawks players over the middle kind of on the run across your body. That that's to me where again, I'm just amazed that Aaron Rodgers would make that play in that moment. That was a huge, huge moment of the football game. And yeah, the Jets who did some solid things yesterday, incredible. They found a way to lose that three and nine. Yeah. And Jeff Albrecht, the interim head coach, did not rule out a quarterback change after the game. Is that right? Yeah, I missed that. He was asked the direct question and it was like, we need to look at the film. Like, think about it. If the chiefs would lose a game like that and you say to Andy Rita, you made courage. Yeah. Take that person's credential and his cheeseburger, get him the hell out of here. Right. Like to even entertain that and give that credence, I think is significant. And we know the reporting that Woody Johnson wanted to bench and we confirmed that. Woody Johnson wanted to bench him after week four. He suggested benching him after week four. And now we're into garbage time. He's not going to be back next. There's no way he's going to be back with the Jets next year. There's no way he'll be back with the Jets next year. Not not after what we've seen three and nine. It's gonna be a new coach and a new GM. His play. You don't want the mistake of the prior regime. You want your own guy. There was nothing about this. Like, if you're inheriting Peyton Manning, like Tony Dungy did when he went to Indianapolis, that's a no brainer. You're inheriting the guy that got the old regime fire. That decision is what got the old regime fired. You don't want that guy. Yeah. Yeah. And no, I mean, ask Matt and he reflects in how he feels about that with Justin Fields and doing all that stuff there in Chicago. All right. So you're to your point real just real quick. I mean, too, the guys he brought up Devontae Adams dropped a wide open fourth and two pass. That was an easy first down, Breece Hall, they're driving late in the game, fumbles, those led to Seahawks field goals. Now, so that was just really bad. All right. Rams defeat Saints 21 14 code crackers. That's my superlative because first half was struggling. You call them crackers. I'm calling them code crackers. Okay. You're funny. But either way, the Rams offensively kind of moved the ball in the first half, but just couldn't capitalize got stopped on downs one time. There's no points to show. But in the second half, there they go. And it just was they had four drives in the second half and they scored a touchdown on three of them. And the other one, they got a first down or whatever, how to punt the ball. But this is just a matter of time. I don't care how good your defense is, the Rams are going to figure out what you're doing and how to attack it at some point. And Pukinakoo and Kyron Williams and Stafford were awesome in the third and fourth quarter. It was funny because one of the PFT writers texted me after half time of that game. It was the first time that the Rams had not scored a first half point with Sean McVey as the head coach. That was the first text. And then the next text. And I read that out loud. Hey, this is the first time the Rams haven't scored a point in the first half after Sean McVey. And then the second text came through and it was in the regular season. And I looked over because Devin was smiling. He's like, I was waiting for that one because there was a game they didn't score a point in the first half. And it was in the postseason, it was in the Super Bowl. Fairly significant game. So with the second time with Sean McVey's coach of the Rams, they failed to score a point in the first half. Well, they were down three nothing and they're one good drive of the first half. They drove down and New Orleans had kind of controlled the game a little bit and missed a field goal themselves at that point. So I don't know if they panicked, but it was only three nothing. They had a fourth and four at the 25 yard line in the second quarter and went for it. Incomplete pass. And then New Orleans went down the field and got a field goal off of that, or maybe it might have been another drive and a swap of drives there. But either way, that was one, you know, curious moment in the first half. Tastes him Hill, fear to be done for the season with the knee injury. He was carted off late. That's not good for the Saints. The Saints were showing a little life under Darren Rizzi. They had won two in a row and they were, they're not done yet. But boy, if they had won that one yesterday, then they inch close. So they would have had five wins. It'd be a game behind the Buccaneers and the Falcons. It wasn't to be the Rams of the team as we said earlier. They're the team to watch in the NFC West. And if you're the Lions, if you're the Eagles, if you're the Vikings, if you're the Packers, if you're any team in the NFC playoff field, you don't want the Rams to emerge in the NFC West. You take the Seahawks, you take the Cardinals, you even take the 49ers. Although if the 49ers would put it together well enough to get in, they'd be a force to be reckoned with, because that would mean they've basically run the table. But the Rams are the team, the team with the most realistic shot to make it out of the NFC West. They're the team you don't want. All right, let's take a break. The Steelers might have put the final nail in the coffin for the Cincinnati Bengals plus an update on a serious concussion suffered by Jaguars quarterback Trevor Lawrence. That's next on PFT Live presented by Accenture. I think the next the next six weeks, five weeks are going to say a lot about who we can count on and who can't Joe Burrow, not part of the problem for the Cincinnati Bengals. They've had four games this year with 33 or more points that they've lost. It's crazy. Unbelievable. It's insane, actually. And this is the combination of a bunch of decisions made by a team that continues to be too cheap for its own good. They have a centerpiece of the franchise. They've paid him market value around him from Jesse Bates to how they handled tee Higgins to what they do with Joe mixing to what they're doing with your March chase. We're just seeing erosion. And this season, yeah, DJ reader, glaring, glaring. Yeah, yeah. Their defense has been the issue all year. I think we saw that fairly early on in the football season. There was struggles there. I mean, the first game of the year, the Patriots moved the ball on them, but Jacobi was set in company. That was our first warning. And it just got worse from there. There's not enough there on the defensive side of the ball. There's just not enough talent on the front four. The secondary is young and all over the place. And Pittsburgh is a team right now that's continuing an upward trend and knows who they are and they're playing to that and they're getting better doing it. It's just yeah, it's all about Joe Burrow and the offensive of the Bengals. I mean, but but the story of the day was Russell Wilson and his right over 114 yards to throw a Oh, unbelievable. You start the game and then bounce back and play the way you do. You talked about the mental toughness earlier and what it takes and all that. Oh, there's a guy that's got it. It's definitely. And then, yeah, all the different receivers he threw the football to throughout the day. I think that was the thing I was most impressed by. And then within that, you know, it's, it's again, it's not very many short passes. He was smart and didn't force the ball down the field, but you look at completions. I mean, it's 36. It's 25. It's 29. It's 25. It's 43. It's 20. It's 23. It's seven or eight explosive plays in the past game. And if this ain't Russell Wilson, lead you to boom stuff right there and move into the pocket laser sidearm prior move, then I don't know what is, but he looks good. He's seeing the field. Good. He's making competent decisions, throwing the ball well, and they kind of got some mojo going on the offensive side of the ball. And that's all they needed because we know they got mojo on the diva's side of the ball. 10 different players got passes from Russell Wilson two days after he turned 36 and not your hair is told Devin McCordy by FaceTime after the game that the game plan was to run the ball, but Russell Wilson got them out of some bad plays, which speaks to a level of empowerment that Russell Wilson has in that offense. And also he's not blinking in the face of their tendency to sprinkle in Justin Fields, although we didn't see much Justin Fields. We saw fields on one key third down where everybody knew he was on the ball. Are you kidding me, Cincinnati? That's a spoke to how bad they're defensive. You're like, they put them in on a third and one to run the ball. They're going to keep it and they all bit on the handoff. They all bit on the handoff. It was a little read option and he was off to the edge and there was nobody even close to stopping him. But it was Russell Wilson the rest of the way third 400 yard game of his career, second highest output at four 14. He had two 57 in the first half. He was he was on pace to go over 500. We haven't seen Steelers offense look like this since Ben Roth was burger six, seven years ago. And before he kind of started to start his downward trend there. But yeah, Wilson was awesome. It should give them confidence to go, Hey, if we got to score points or push the envelope on that side of the ball, we can do that. And then here's the other thing that they have a great advantage, defensive game or shoot out. They got guys on the defense side of the ball that makes splash plays that'll make big plays. So yesterday it's going back and forth. But what kind of, you know, tips things into Pittsburgh's favor? Oh, strip sack by TJ Watt. Oh, that gave them the ball one other time. Oh, Cam Hayward got his big damn paw up in the air and tipped the ball up in the interception. Oh, that got another possession for the Steelers. Oh, well, the bagels are still hanging around. They're still there. You know, they're not losing by much. Oh, there goes Nick, there goes Nick Herbig around the edge strip sack. They pick it up, run for attention. Oh, get sorry. The game's over now. You're down by 17. That's where they're awesome. So they can get the playmakers in the offense going to the extent they do on the defense. Yeah, Pittsburgh is there a pain in the butt as we know. One last note before we move to the next game, George Pickens had two unsportsmanlike conduct fouls yesterday. And I got a lot of questions about why he wasn't ejected. Right. The second foul does not fall within the category of things for which you can be ejected. The finger guns, there's three categories that if you do two of those like this here, putting the ball on the guy, you do that twice, taunting, you get ejected. The finger guns, when he did that, that is not something that falls on. There's three subcategories, A, B, and C violent jesters is D. D is not among the categories that will get you ejected if you have two unsportsmanlike conduct fouls. And that's the thing. And they used to not catch that. They would just find them for it. Right. So at least they caught it, but you don't get ejected for that unsportsmanlike conduct. Now, Mike Tomlin said after the game, George Pickens needs to grow up. I'll say this. We love George Pickens. Big George Pickens fans. Can you imagine what he would be with another team? Cause we talk all the time about all the guys that weren't problems who go elsewhere and become problems when they're not under the influence of Mike Tomlin. If this is what Pickens is with Tomlin, what the hell would Pickens be without Tom? I don't know, but it, yes, we know Mike Tomlin has the magic touch and Pickens, it's just, it's a little too much of this. It really is. And we love the guys. A player. Damn good player. Intense fierce competitor. But you got to know how to, you got to know how to reign it in, reign it in, reign it in, nor has he done enough yet to just be the way he is. That's all I'd say to. He's on a way to being there, but just, you know, put a few more pelts on the horse or on the wall as they may say or whatever before you start to kind of act like the diva guy or the man that way. And I think there's a little bit there. It's, it's just a rubs people the wrong way the way he, you know, handles himself at times. So far as at one point in the second half, it was 23 six and then boom, boom, the Jaguar score a couple of touchdowns, which is important if you pick the Texans to cover the spread as some of us did and made it a best bet as one of us did along the way Trevor Lawrence left the game with a concussion that featured the fencing posture, which we've seen a few times in recent years because of this hit brutal twice the head gets hit by the forearm of Aziz al-Shayer, and then the head hits the ground chaos ensues multiple fights. They're going to have to pick over this film and figure out who gets fined, who doesn't get fined. Aziz al-Shayer was ejected, a couple of other guys were ejected. There were two different fights. They threw a bottle at him from the stands. They'll probably find that fan as they should and that person should be barred from any future games. We've seen discipline like that. We've seen prosecution when there's been interaction between fans and players. So that was a big ugly scene. John Runyon is the guy at the league office who's in charge of determining discipline. I expect as soon as today there'll be a suspension. There's a history Al-Shayer punched someone week two Sunday night football. He got fined for that. But even without that, even without that, this seems to be enough to get him suspended for one one shot. This is one of those brutal hits I've seen. This is almost as brutal as Joe Turkey Jones, pile driving, Terry Bradshaw. Well, there was no -- we're in the era where we see this a lot. The quarterback slide. No effort to put the brakes on. No effort to put the brakes on. That to me is why he'll get suspended. That's why. In fact, he didn't put the brakes on. He actually said, "Let me step on the pedal a little bit more and throw a forearm into his face too to really add a little extra into the hit." Hey, Texans won. That was an unfortunate injury. The Texans won. I don't feel any better about the Texans after that game. No. Again, if you go -- if everybody wants to go back and watch that game, Trevor Lawrence and Matt Jones had people open everywhere. They just couldn't hit the damn throws. There was plays to be had when they were down 23 to 6, right? That game could have been closer, should have been closer. They finally capitalized a little bit towards later in the game. That's why they scored. But, yeah, the Texans, the offense is few and far between. It's Nico Collins, Shroud, Mixon. That's what they do. And the defense is starting to show some cracks as well. That concerns me going forward. The AFC playoff field is basically set at this point. The seven teams are set. The seeds are to be determined. But the Texans, presumably, will be the fourth. And whoever the fifth seed is, is probably going to make quick work of the Texans. Even though the Texans beat the Browns last year in their home game in the playoffs. I feel like they're the same Texans team. They are the one team of the seven that we seem to be relatively certain. Yeah, I hear you. You're right. Chiefs, Bills, Steelers, Ravens, Chargers, Broncos, Texans. Yeah. The Texans are the which doesn't belong at all. They're the wobbliest. I agree. I agree there. All right. But, again, keep an eye on PFT today. We'll have updates on whether to what extent there's a suspension coming out of yesterday's game. I expect there will be the only the only thing that gives them some time. There's a little less urgency because the Texans don't play this week. Oh, that's right. But usually these things move fairly quickly. They need to make a strong statement after yesterday. And Demico Ryan's a coach at the Texans set after the game. We don't coach that. Okay, that's fine. What are you doing to coach that they don't do that? Because it happened. Even if you don't coach it, it happened. You didn't say sweep the leg, but he swept the leg. So that speaks to a deeper flaw where you've got to almost affirmatively say to guys, like you see something in practice that gives you concern. Hey, we got to we got to we got to we got to not do this and we're not even close to this during the game. All right. We're going to take a break. More PFT live right after this. The Washington commanders were facing a stiff challenge and tend to see tight even though the Titans hadn't won many games. They had been good lately, so good that one of us thought the Titans would actually win the game before you knew it. It was 28 nothing. I would like to say I am 14 and one picking games this week. So up yours for bringing up my one one 13 and two. All right. So I'm not that far behind. You know what we are. You know, we are in best bets. We're combined. Oh, five. Oh, five. Five. Wow. And you you have the Broncos tonight. The Broncos tonight. Go Brown. Go Brown's you in the ground. Right. All right. But still, that's the one game you got wrong. Be perfect. If you. Why did you think the Titans were going to beat the command? Well, there's this. I always look for like, what could that upset be the Titans defense so good, right? I never thought the commanders would run the ball on them the way they did start in the football game. Right. The commanders played. They were just better from the start. They were physical. They were ready to play. It's like the Titans won that game last week and they were still having a parade about it. Washington, of course, has had bad losses and was like, no, we got to get back on track and then Tennessee, the stupid, I mean, thumbles. They fumble a kick return. They did it all early on in the football game in Washington. This was never really a contest, but think about it. It's a long season and you get a big win against the division rival. Yeah. It's Thanksgiving week. That's right. You exhale a little bit. Yeah. And yeah, we're not going to make the playoffs. We got we got our win for the month and the commanders were desperate. Yeah. As I've lost yesterday, you got to start asking whether or not they even make the playoffs. One of those second place teams from the south of the west could maybe pick them off. So the commanders desperately needed. They blew them off the field and restored some hope because it feels like they're getting in. It feels like after yesterday and the way that you see the sinking of the other divisions, I think the commanders are going to hold on. It's going to be all about it. It's going to be Tampa Bay and what they do, right, Tampa Bay is going to be their competition as they go forward. I mean, whoever is second place, Tampa Bay's got the tiebreaker back to week one. Right. All right. By the way, the Patriots are eliminated from playoff contention after losing on a last second touchdown and two pointer from Anthony Richardson. There was a 68 yard field goal attempted by the Patriots that missed. And so the Patriots lose 25 to 24. Let's take a break. More PFT library after this. Wow. Damn. One of the storylines to follow is the week begins to unfold. Chicago Bears moving forward without Matt Eberflus, who was fired on Friday after one of the worst clock management debacles I've ever seen. Oh, I don't disagree. And any eight year old playing Madden would have managed that situation better. So I want to try to spin it forward. Okay. I got some information yesterday and it's always hard to get something new because the Sunday shows that are on before us have this, that and the other thing, Cliff Kingsbury identified as a candidate. That's not a surprise. He worked with Caleb Williams at USC. We've been talking about Cliff Kingsbury's potential has been Cliff Kingsbury that offense worked anywhere on the NFL and anywhere. But I know this year we've had a little, it's, but, but we, we see it. I know the cliff. The season goes on and that's going to be the bears. And this is the thing. We talked about this earlier with the 49 right, the possibility that dysfunction at the top will cloud the decision making. One thing that I've learned. There's a sense of jubilation within the bears building, right, that ownership is finally willing to do things differently. And the firing of either flus during the season, they've never, ever, ever, a landmark move to make the decision and act now and not have the guy twist for five weeks and leaks coming out of the team. And they were, they were happy. They're local media is pissed at them because they didn't know it was going to happen until it happened. They're happy about that. It's a belief and it's an indication that the new regime is turning the tide on the organization that has been dysfunctional for the past 40 years since the 85 bear. It's a huge hiring here. And so moving forward, the number one factor, getting the most out of Caleb Williams firmly believe in him, they've seen enough to say he's the guy, which means it's going to be an offensive guy. I would think so. They're not, they're not closed minded. Why would it not be an offensive guy if your number one objective is to get the most out of him? No, I think you're right there. And they got it. They're set up to be a good team going in the future. There's enough young talent on that football team. We're seeing where it goes. A big decision for the game. They've got to convince the next coach that the dysfunction isn't there. And we saw a little of it, they understand it was clunky on Friday, they let him do his press conference and then they fire him afterward, but they're getting better. We'll see. We'll see how it goes. More PFT live, right? Oh, he's counting me out. He really wants to shut up. Right after this Monday edition of PFT live presented by Accenture pulling the train into the station here. Monday night football Browns at the Broncos, but if they had switched to James Winston a few weeks earlier, let's go Broncos. I think this will be a fun game. It's two really good defenses. We know that I'm banking on this. The Broncos, their offense, they're kind of hitting on all cylinders right now. The Browns are so over aggressive. I think Sean Payton will have a few plays for them that I did when this phone next over the last 10 games, 20 total touchdowns, two interceptions and James Winston, Sean Payton knows James Winston. They were together in New Orleans for a couple of years. That may be edge. Sean Payton. We'll see how it goes tonight. Go Browns. See you tomorrow. How dare you carry on is an edge of your seat action thriller that follows a young TSA agent who's blackmailed into an impossible situation at the height of Christmas Eve travel pandemonium. 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Hour 2: Mike Florio (@ProFootballTalk) and Chris Simms (@CSimmsQB) discuss latest news in NFL including Chargers dominant defense performance over Falcons, Buccaneers holding off Panthers in OT, and Week 13 Sunday Superlatives.
