(upbeat music) - Hey everyone, welcome back to another episode of The Allen Sander Show. Great to have you along. Really appreciate the feedback to yesterday's show. I know it's still having seismic reverberations. And I can't believe there are still some people who don't really understand why. There's no doubt in my mind. Nobody on the right thought that Joe Biden was gonna let his son go to prison. Nobody, but that's not the point. The point is to stand on some tower of virtue. Look at us. Look at Joe, look at this party. He's gonna allow the jury to stand. He's gonna let the system play out. He's not gonna pardon. And they ran on that, and they ran on that, and they ran on that, and they gave themselves the patent on the back, and now they're all going, well, of course he was always going to. But I mean, it's not because he changed his mind. He didn't lie. It's because Donald Trump's the president now, and he's trying to insulate his son from what? What is he insulating his son from? Because that's not what the White House memo said. That's not what he put in the memo. Yesterday, he said that it was a witch hunt. He said that it was a corrupt department of justice that was targeting his son because his son's last name was Biden. So you can't have it every day, every way at the same time. It can only be one or the other. Either the department of justice has targeted operations where they are corrupt enough to be used as an offensive weapon to go after people they don't like, or there is a rule of law and it's one size fits all. Every American falls under the same rule of law. It can't be both. You can't say it is fair and we uphold it and we respect the rule of law. No one's above the law. I, you know, you can't be a paragon of virtue signaling about the wonderful department of justice we have. And then six months later ago, it was a witch hunt. They went after my son simply because he's a Biden. Because all you've done is you've proven Donald Trump correct. Now, there are some knuckleheads out there who refuse to deal with reality, which is rather interesting. But there are a handful of people that they're self aware enough and they bear a modicum of intellect that even though they're far leftist, they totally understand the catch 22 that Joe Biden has put the party in. He has put the entire left into a catch 22. Either you believe in the rule of law and therefore we can mock Donald Trump for all of his whining and talking about the courts being unbalanced and unfair and targeting him and being used as law, fair and opposition. You either believe in the rule of law and therefore you leave Donald Trump out there dangling or you say, no, we have a corrupt department of justice. We have a corrupt FBI. We have a corrupt IRS. And the only reason we know that is if it hadn't been a Biden, if his last name wasn't Biden, he would have been let free. Which is a joke. We all know that. The fact of the matter is, and remember what I told you months ago, the only reason that the Biden, and it's the Biden Department of Justice, it's the Biden FBI. The only reason they went for the gun form charge and the tax evasion charge is that's low hanging fruit. They didn't want to go into Burisma. They didn't want to go into the failing to file as a foreign agent when you were negotiating on behalf of these foreign entities. They didn't want to go into the fact that there was all this money laundering going on, that there were all these shell corporations, that there was all these pay to play schemes. They didn't want to go into that even though, as we heard again yesterday, just a reminder, everyone knew who the big guy was. Even the CEO of Burisma who told Alexander Smirnoff before the FBI decided to put him in a wholesome earth so he couldn't talk anymore, even he reported to his handlers that the CEO of Burisma knew that Joe Biden was the big guy. They went for the low hanging fruit to protect Hunter. So in some ways, Joe Biden is right. If his name hadn't been Hunter Biden, they wouldn't have given him those charges. They would have given him 10 times worse charges. John Stewart had actually a pretty decent monologue about this. I'm gonna have to clean up a couple of things with some beeps, but he gets it. He gets the catch 22 that the Democrat party is now in, thanks to Joe Biden. Faith in the rule of law, finally. (snaps) Democrats have a moral perch from which they can judge without shame, hypocrisy, or nuance. - Breaking news, President Biden has issued a pardon for his son, Hunter Biden. (audience laughs) - Mother (beep) (audience laughs) We were so close. (audience laughs) But you know what, get fine. It's good, it's right. It's just right. You're an 82 year old man. Doesn't want to spend the rest of his life visiting his son in prison. The Republicans can't wait with this (beep) all the time. (audience laughs) I'm sure the pardon is a narrowly written, precisely drawn, farewell note of compassion for a loved one. - The pardon, sweeping, covering offenses that Hunter Biden, quote, "has committed" or may have committed or taken pardon over the past 11 years. (audience laughs) (audience laughs) - John Stewart is just staring out. (audience laughs) - 11 years is a very specific. (audience laughs) And not rounded amount of time. (audience laughs) So Hunter, I'll give you a pardon. A few years, five years, 10 years. It needs to be 11. (audience laughs) And if you would be so kind, make sure this upcoming New Year's Eve is also covered. (audience laughs) - (beep) it's going to get crazy. (audience laughs) I didn't know pardons could cover crimes you may have committed arms. I'm surprised that Biden didn't include the phrase on Earth One or any (audience laughs) of the Earth's in the multiverse. (audience laughs) - Oh my goodness, John Stewart, barely able to contain himself for the purposes of comedy. You know he's really ticked off about this. He's playing it for comedy, but he's absolutely right. The phrase, look, we finally had it. The Democrats had a moral perch from which they could judge without shame or hypocrisy or nuance until they broke everything they said that they weren't going to break. They lied, they went back on the word, and by the way, I told you this yesterday. And there are people out there who still don't believe it. NBC News even reported that Joe Biden said, "Oh yeah, no, no, we're going to tell everybody "that I'm not going to pardon him, "but it's definitely on the table. "Don't even get in your heads "that I'm not going to pardon my son. "We'll just say it." It was always the plan to lie and to get their willing mouthpieces in the propaganda wing of the Democrat Party, otherwise known as the legacy mainstream media, it was always going to be getting them to carry the narrative, to carry the lie, to carry the scyop, to carry the hoax, to carry the spin. Everything they've been doing, they're the ones who looked worse. We always knew Joe Biden was a liar. I played you the month. He's been known as a liar for 50 years. He's been known as a liar. Someone who screws everything up, doesn't understand foreign policy, always gets his foot in his mouth. He's an absolute hack. The fact that people keep sending him to office? Hey, God bless you, Joe. You found a stupid district. You found people who are so stupid. You were able to convince them over 50 years to keep putting you in office. Can't begrudge the fool when there's fools who follow him. John Stewart also then added this little nugget when looking back at what this pardon really does. Look how confident and eloquent our Democratic representatives were. Back when they thought they had the moral high ground on this issue. I've not heard a single Democrat anywhere in the country. Cry fraud, cry fixed, cry rigged, cry kangaroo court. You don't hear a single peep out of any Democrats saying that why we believe in the rule of law. Now that's new designated liar, Jamie Raskin, Democrat from Maryland. John Stewart's going to him saying, look, here's an example of how we stood on this mountain. We stood on this paragon of we, we, we Democrats. We are the ones who are saying, look at us. Even the president's son is subject to the law and the president's not going to get involved. And then here we are, the designated liar, standing on that hill, standing in front of Congress, testifying, look, we believe in the rule of law. No Democrats calling it rigged. No one says it's stacked. No one says it's a witch hunt. No one calls it a kangaroo court. Well, that was a few months ago. What about now? And now look at what even he, one of the most verbally dexterous attorneys we have on Capitol Hill, has been reduced to. Do you think President Biden should pardon Hunter Biden? So there are lots of claims of political prosecution and political-- And was Hunter, politically? Well, I mean, obviously that's a judicial point and you've got to look at what the evidence is and I don't know-- And should the president pardon him? I mean, again, that is a unilateral executive power that-- And should he use it? Well, the power exists for the president to show mercy for people. I mean, we have an executive and we have a judicial and then a legislative and then a smoke bomb. And at that point, John Stewart, like he throws a smoke bomb for cover and he's diving below his desk. Folks, John Stewart gets it. John Stewart realizes it's all been smoke and mirrors. It's all been a big lie. You know, they keep talking about Donald Trump denying or saying that the 2020 election was stolen, that he denied the election counts, that he's a election denier. And so they always say, "Donald Trump, "the spreader of the big lie, that 2020 was stolen." I already told you, you only need one factual, inarguable statement or recollection of an event to say, "Absolutely 2020 was stolen." And I'm actually really glad they stole it. I'm really glad that these folks behind the scenes, for the last four years, thought they were going to be untouchable, that they had gotten away with it in 2020, that they had manufactured yet another hoax, they managed to swing an election into their side for their candidate, their puppet. They were able to now say, "We've got a mouthpiece, "we can control, we can continue on "with the fundamental transformation of this country. "We can pick up where Barack Obama's second term left off "and they thought they were untouchable "and we watched over the last four years "just how far left they wanted to take this country, "how far left they actually were, "because they wanted to drag the country "to where they already were ideologically." Thanks to the four years of watching them think they were untouchable, watching them think that they had gotten away with it, watching them think that the press was always going to give them cover, that they were always going to be able to spin whatever narrative they want and the American people would just swallow it, hook, line and sinker, I'm really, really glad they stole the election in 2020. Because you would not have the kind of force of will and mandate that we're seeing now four years later. So many people have turned off that legacy mainstream media or they watch it solely like I do for entertainment. They know they're not getting the truth. So many people are turning to other sources, new media, shows like this, shows like all of the other new media, people like Meghan Kelly, people like Michael Shellingberger, people like Barry Weiss. I mean, there are so many good sources where it's not just even news, it's news and analysis, it's news and talk and it's not nonsense, it's not drivel, it's not a bunch of panelists who are paid propagandists. We're gonna get some of that here in just a minute from CNN, I gotta tell you, Scott Jennings, Scott Jennings, the token conservative on CNN to give CNN an ounce of credibility. I swear he should get hazard duty pay. I don't even know how do you mentally prepare for going into a nightly panel discussion, a debate if you will, a professional debate, not, you know, we're not bickering. This is a, you're having an argument, you're making your argument, you're listening to both sides, they're having a debate. But I mean, Scott Jennings, while he's debating, you know, the middle school debate club in terms of intellect, he's outnumbered by a bunch of shrill, Trump derangement syndrome, narcissistic, unhinged, mentally unwell panelists. Most of the people make emotionally charged arguments that fall apart with just one simple question. It's so, it's so easy literally to argue with them unless you get drowned out by all of them screeching at you to try to shut you up because they know they can't stand on their own argument. If you could make a cogent case, a cogent argument, you'd have no problem with somebody challenging it. It's something we talk about on this show all the time. You have to allow people to challenge your ideas, you have to be open to that. And if you realize that they can't sink you, they can't put any holes in your argument, you might have a pretty good case. There's only one way to test it, and you have to be battle tested, you have to put it out there. And the unhinged left, the emotionally unhinged left, never wanna be challenged because they know it won't work. Now we've got a, we've got a, a, a, I guess an advisor, someone who's been on CNN a lot, he's listed as a CNN contributor. His name is Shermichael Singleton. He's a political guy. He's been involved in GOP presidential campaigns, lists himself as an entrepreneur, and a co-founder and co-owner of an organization called Gun Saudi, and for those of you wanna know, it's G-U-N-S-O-T-T-Y, Gun Saudi. And how about I do this again? An organization called Guns Out TV, it's a firearms production company promoting firearms, education, and action-oriented entertainment for the firearms community. Now, oh, because it matters to people on the left, this is also a young black entrepreneur. He was on CNN, Shermichael Singleton said this yesterday regarding the Hunter Biden, pardon. - Democrats portrayed the president as this great arbiter of morality and truth. They said that he somehow was a better standard bearer for protecting norms and the institutions of our country, and yet that wasn't true. They lied, you can go all the way back to 2022, when they were asked this question, and the White House continuously consecutively lied over and over and over again. They could have simply said to MJ's point to Chuck's point, the president isn't gonna put his thumb on his skills of justice. He's going to wait. He hasn't made a decision yet. Most people would have expected that. They would have respected that. I think most people to your point, Chuck, believe if it was my child, I probably would have done the same thing. That's not the issue. Jake, the question here, the burden on the White House, I would argue, is the continuous lies. You said that you were better than this other guy. You criticized your other guy for all of these things, and now your DOJ is committing witch hunts, and this is now politicized, or you appointed Merrick Garland. You can't blame Republicans for that. And I can only imagine, as I've talked to a lot of Republicans, if this were Donald Trump, and I know people are gonna give him a lot of criticism for the parties he's already given, but if this were him, in Don Jr, or Eric Trump, or Ivanka, I can only imagine what the headlines would have been. And I will say, if you're Democrats, and you're trying to walk this straight line, that we're somehow better than Republicans, because we care more about the future and state of this democracy. I think that's trash now. No one believes it. No one believes they've lost all credibility for the facade they portrayed for several years. - 100%. He's nailed it right on the head. He's like, look, Democrats have portrayed this president as the great arbiter of morality and truth, which I think is just laughable knowing Joe Biden's career, his history. But they wanted to sell it to you, and because the media said the same thing every single night, and we know how propaganda works, you make the lie big, you make it audacious, but you say it with credibility, you repeat it, you use the same words every single night, and pretty soon when everyone's saying it, it just becomes the truth. People thought Joe Biden was this great arbiter of morality and truth. He wasn't. And sure Michael Singleton points out, all Joe had to, all he ever had to say was, look, I'm not gonna get involved. We'll wait to see what happens. I reserved the right as not only the president, but as a father to do what I think is right based on the injustice. I have this authority, and we'll see what happens. And then sit back and shut up. But they didn't. They went all in on the lie, and they knew it was a lie. NBC reported that they've known for months that they were going to go and use this option. They just couldn't talk about it until after the election. That was the point. That's the duplicity. That's the evil part. Now there are some people, you know what we played yesterday, like the Whoopi Goldbergs and there's gonna be others that oh, he didn't do anything wrong, and Joe Biden didn't lie, he just changed his mind. Okay, he didn't lie. He just changed his mind because the circumstances changed. What circumstances? Trump's gonna appoint people that are not cool. Yeah, but Trump's people aren't in right now. It wasn't Trump's people that had anything to do with it. It was Biden's people. It's Merrick Garland's DOJ. It's Christopher Ray's FBI. I mean, how's, I mean, come on. Please tell me that even if you're on the left, you're listening to this going, guys, shut up, you're making a sound like imbeciles. You're making it sound like we're the party of little itty bitty children who believe in, make believe in, oh wait, hold on, nevermind. Ah, nevermind, ah, let's just move along. You know, for those who want to put that out there as, well, he was just trying to protect his son, you know, because these tax charges were just so stupid. I mean, who doesn't fill out a tax forming correctly when you're maybe high on drugs? I ain't right. I ain't going. This is really something we want to just put the president's son on prison for. And who doesn't fall behind on taxes? But he made good on him. Okay. Okay. Well, in an effort, and I think CNN realizes, while they still have to kind of play partisan, remember, okay, let me back up for a second. Remember for about three weeks after the Biden Trump presidential debate on CNN? Remember after that debate, we watched people like Jake Tapper discover kind of the doctrines of basic journalism all over again. They were suddenly just as angry that they'd been lied to. Funny, they never bothered to go investigate all of the things that we already knew that Joe Biden was infirm, that he was mentally deficient, that he was losing his edge, that he wasn't the person who they kept telling us he was. We all knew that. But remember, remember how I said for about three weeks? I said, no, don't let this go to your hedge. You know, this is not something that's going to change forever. This is going to be just a few weeks maybe where they've discovered because they need to say face now because they've spent all this time lying to their audience. They have to now say, no, no, we weren't lying to you. We were lied to and we just, we just repeated what we thought was factual from the sources. Turns out the sources were lying to us. Remember, that's what they had to go on. We had to, we had to allow them to try to play that game. And we laughed and we laughed and I said, but don't worry. They'll be back to the partisans. They'll be back to representing the Democrat party. They'll be the mouthpieces, the shields. And as soon as Kamala Harris was, was anointed, bam, right back at a Jake Tapper. Oh my gosh, she's great. Oh my gosh, she's wonderful. Oh my gosh, I can't believe she didn't run sooner. CNN every now and then has to have these moments in the middle of what I would call a seismic, just upheaval. The Joe Biden Donald Trump debate was a massive seismic upheaval in the Democrat party. It's what got him three weeks later off the ticket. He was withdrew voluntarily. That made him just like George Washington. And suddenly without a vote, without a single, without a jungle primary, without a rapid primary, without a single vote, Kamala Harris, anointed, and she goes out there and loses more than $2.1 billion in less than 110 days. So here's the seismic shift. We're seeing Joe Biden lie to the American people. And once again, the willing stooges, the mouthpieces of the Democrat party are suddenly being looked at going, uh oh, we repeated the same dang narratives that were being told to us. We didn't question, we went along with it, and now we're gonna face a yet another credibility challenge, as if they don't have a credibility challenge every night. But okay, this one's seismic, I told you yesterday. So I spent so much time on it. I want you to hear now, if you think that that trial was just, oh come on, it was just some simple, a simple mismanagement of his taxes and he filled out the form wrong. Who goes to jail on that? Suddenly you've got Chuck Todd, NBC's Meet the Press, Chuck Todd, on with Chris Elizabeth on his newscast, podcasts, video newsletter, whatever he wants to call it. And out of nowhere, he tells the audience something that I never heard. I mean, I knew, I knew how bad Hunter Biden was. I knew what a wicked, despicable, evil, just a rotten person Hunter Biden is. I knew he had gotten his wife, his brother's ex, Haley, hooked on crack. I knew he was just a rotten individual. So all of a sudden, well, everyone's out here saying, "Oh, Hunter, you should have never been charged." It was the witch hunt, he didn't deserve it, he's a good kid, he's the only surviving sibling or a child of the Biden family. Chuck Todd drops this yesterday on Chris Elizabeth Show. - I followed the Hunter Biden trial very closely. I read every transcript, all the testimony, 'cause that's what you, all that was made public. And there is, you wanna read, you wanna get angry, just as somebody in just all these mixed emotions, you read the Halley Biden transcript, and that's both widow. - Yes. - And essentially, he turned her into a crack addict. And this was all happening in 2017, 2018. And Joe and Jill Biden were so concerned about their family that they decided to run for president. - Yup. - I just, so when you talk about the word selfish, it's almost like the word doesn't, I mean, their decision to run for president put the entire Democratic Party and the United States of America in the position that it's in now. - Isn't that amazing? Isn't that amazing? When can anybody, can anyone remember at any point in time in the last six years, because he's talking, going back to 2018, has anyone, including Chuck Todd, do you remember any of them saying, we don't understand why Biden is running? He's got a crack-addled son who's gotten his ex, or his brother, now dead brother's former wife, hooked on crack. He's a horrible individual. He's got a horrible problem. He's gonna drag the family down. Why would you run for president? Where were those, 'cause I looked, I looked to find Chuck Todd and others, and maybe it's out there, I just couldn't find it. I couldn't find a single soundbite, where once again, the media telling me today, oh my gosh, if you had gone and read that transcript, if you had seen that trial, you would have realized what a rotten thing this was for Hunter Biden to be in the middle of, that Hunter Biden is really a cancer on the Biden family, and what in the world was Joe Biden and his wife, Jill, thinking that he was gonna put his name to run for office when he had all of this hanging around him, all of these problems because of Hunter. I never heard that until this particular moment in time, until yesterday, when this was shared on the Chris Saliza podcast, or newsletter, or video cast, whatever he calls it. Did anybody out here hear anyone in legacy mainstream media say, why is Joe Biden running? I mean, he's got so many problems in the family. He's got a drug adult son. Did y'all hear that at any point? I do this for a living. I didn't hear it. We all out here knew it, but we just figured it's Joe Biden going for another power grab. He's ran for president twice before, was humiliated twice before. Maybe he thought third times the charm. Turns out it was, you know, when you manipulate an election, don't forget, they manipulated it for him. The first time around, they needed to have the 51 agents lie about the Hunter Biden laptop. They had to lie about everything that we have now just lived through for four years. They put it out there and stole the election to give it to Joe. And they learned Joe couldn't do it without them. So even this last time around, when he won his primary, they rearranged the primary to rig it for him again. 'Cause they needed their mouthpiece to continue. Joe Biden has always been a joke, but when was the media ever gonna be honest and say, why are we doing this? When was the media honest about the fact that those 51 agents lied? They, it took them what, two years? Folks, isn't it ironic Joe Biden's presidency, the thing he wanted, he coveted almost more than sniffing a 12 year old girl from behind. The thing Joe coveted more than that was the presidency. And he was willing to sell his very soul to get it. So think about this, folks. Do you, do you not believe that Joe Biden was unaware of his son and his son's actions and what his son was doing and how he was the bag man for the Biden crime family? Are you still going to try to tell me, you believe Joe Biden was completely in the dark and isolated and insulated from anything Hunter was doing? Folks, he knew that laptop was his son's. Everyone knew it was his son's. So think about how his presidency started. He ruined, or at the very least, I think these folks should be on trial for treason because they all knew these 51 agents. He convinced 51 members, Democrats in high level positions of the intelligence community, he convinced them to lie, to get him into office. He was willing to do whatever it took to get into power. And the DNC, the Democrat apparatus behind him, wanted a Democrat back in charge so they could get back to fundamentally transforming this nation. And so they were willing to take Joe, bumbling, stumbling, good old Uncle Joe, trying to portray him as a moderate to try to win the election when they realized he was in danger of losing it, thanks to the Hunter Biden laptop being discovered, they had to manufacture a hoax. They manufactured, the government knew it was real. The FBI knew it was real. Barack Obama, by the way, behind the scenes knew it was real. Everyone knew it was real. The FBI director knew it was real, everyone. And so they manufactured the hoax and it spun just enough people to give Joe Biden the win in 2020. So Joe Biden squeaks in as president 46, thanks to everyone lying about the Hunter Biden laptop. And here we are, after everyone lied about it and said it wasn't real and said it was fake, four years later, here's Joe Biden pardoning Hunter for everything we knew from that laptop. Everything on that laptop started basically from the barisma forward. So everything from January 1, 2014 to today, he wiped that laptop from, it doesn't matter, it's gone. Totally gone, it's gone, it cannot be investigated. Now, I say it can't be. I mean, there's no real legitimate reason if you're not gonna actually bring charges. Should we at least release everything we've learned so far? Should all of the investigations that have been going on until yesterday or until Sunday, technically, when Joe Biden announced the pardon, should we not at least release everything at this point? Since we're not gonna go after anybody, we might as well see what we paid for. Shouldn't the American people don't we as taxpayers? Are we not owed a look-see at all of the investigative work that was being done up until the point Joe Biden made all that work null and void? We talked yesterday, I brought to you, Adam lying piece of shift, he wanted a law that said, if a president ever pardoned somebody that has a connection to any kind of investigation that might include the president, it should be at least put out there. So we at least know did a president politicize his pardoning power to interrupt the scales of justice? Should we not at the very least know what every one of those investigations found and was saying? Shouldn't that at least, don't we as American taxpayers having lived through the last four years of this nonsense? Don't we at least get that consolation prize since we know that they've gotten away with it? And oh, by the way, Hunter was the big one. Hunter's the bag man. Hunter was the one that was just dumb enough to go out there and do all these things. Folks, I'm gonna put money on it right now. I'm gonna tell you right now, Hunter Biden will not be the only Biden crime family member to get a pardon from Joe before he leaves office. Mark my words, Joe Biden is well aware of his family's doings. He's always known. So he's going to now, now that Hunter's been insulated, he's gonna have to go insulate the rest of the family. Mark my words, all of you people who used to get irked at me. Why do you call him the Biden crime family? I mean, come on, you're doing that to be sensational. You don't really mean it that, no, I have always meant it. When you enlist every one of the members of your family into your criminal activity, I call that the Biden crime family. I call that the Biden crime family syndicate because you enlisted not only your immediate family, you enlisted all the way down to your grand children. You have three generations of Biden's all committing crimes. And most of them crimes against the country in that great. You're selling influence and most of the times to America's enemies. If you think China's our friend, you're out of your mind. Don't forget while we're talking about Ukraine and Burisma during this exact same time, there were a lot of Chinese deals going down. There were a lot of, quote, Chinese businessmen. And isn't it funny, you know, we've documented over the last couple of years here on this show, the number of Chinese associates that get arrested by the FBI and criminally charged for peddling, you know, doing things against our laws to benefit the Communist Party of China. And they're all business partners with Hunter and somehow Hunter never's in trouble. He just somehow never gets swept up when all the other people have to go to jail. I know I spent a lot of time in this yesterday and I'm hoping this is heading in a different direction, but I need you guys to really understand. When I called it seismic yesterday, I meant it. This is massive. I don't care how they maybe try to downplay it, how half the Democrats are excusing it. The other half are just appalled that they've allowed this to happen, that they can't believe that they would, they'd be this inept. At the very least, I know a lot of people are saying, why didn't Joe Biden wait until like the 18th or 19th of January issue all these pardons in one fell swoop where it wouldn't get any playing time and a day or two before the inauguration? And I think here's why. 'Cause Joe Biden's got a lot, a lot of pardons still to come and he's trying to figure out how to do this and he's not bright, he's not, okay, he just isn't. So Joe Biden's out there and I guarantee you, I've said it, I just said it, I'm gonna remind you and put money on it. I feel this confident that this is not the only Biden family member who's going to get a pardon and you don't pardon somebody unless you're worried that they're actually guilty of something. If you thought, well here comes Donald Trump, he's gonna weaponize the FBI and the DOJ and he's gonna go after my family, okay, but if they didn't do anything, what are you worried about? You told me the FBI is on the up and up, you told me they've never been weaponized, you told me they wouldn't do this. Oh, well now it's different 'cause Donald Trump's in charge. Oh, so suddenly they're gonna become willing and complicit into breaking the law, they're gonna be complicit in doing something that they have never done before or are you worried that you know what they've done before and you're worried that to save their own behinds, they'd be all too willing to turn around and bite the hand that fed them. Chris Coons, close Biden ally, remember co-chair of the Biden campaign, Senator Chris Coons said senators were asking him why Biden reversed himself and gave Hunter a pardon. Of course he's gotta make himself part of the news. Hey everybody, hey I'm over here. Yeah, a lot of people are coming to me, so here's what I said. I want everybody to know this is what I told everybody that's coming to me, this is Chris Coons. I think what changed was that President-elect Trump put people in place who made it really clear that they intended to go after not just anybody, but in their campaign activity had talked about going after Hunter Biden directly. Quote, this was a significant change from President Biden's insistence he would not do it and as I've been turning it over in my mind today, the thing that changed was who Trump nominated. So I'm gonna go back to my initial question because this begs the question that no one seems to be able to answer. If these individuals, including Hunter Biden, didn't break the law, why would they need to be concerned over an investigation? Or are they suggesting that there is now evidence of a weaponized DOJ and FBI? Are they now suggesting the very thing we've seen all along under the Biden regime actually does exist, in which case it is a concern, in which case it requires reform? See, the catch-22 they put themselves in as a result of this is absolutely delicious. And let's keep pointing that out. Everybody within the sound of my voice, when you hear the show, have these facts on your side and say, well, okay, which is it? Which is it? Because it's not Trump's Department of Justice yet. So either there were legitimate crimes that Hunter committed or it's the witch hunt, in which case Donald Trump keeps saying the Department of Justice and the FBI is so crooked that they go on political witch hunts. So which is it? 'Cause Joe Biden is now saying the exact same thing Donald Trump has been saying, which means the FBI needs reformation, that needs to be reformed. Tell me where I'm wrong, because if the FBI doesn't need to be reformed, then how in the world can Joe Biden justify a pardon when he specifically said in his letter, it was because of a witch hunt that targeted his son solely for political reasons, because his last name was Biden. You can't have it both ways. This is one of those instances where you can't eat your cake and have it too. And by the way, that's the right way to say it. I think I said at one of my shows recently, everybody gets it backwards. Everybody goes, oh, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Well, yes, you can, 'cause you have your cake and then you can eat it. That's how it works. You can't eat your cake. It's all gone and have it too. We always get it backwards, but you can't have it both ways. It's one way or the other. Either the DOJ and the FBI are as pure and clean as the wind driven snow, and therefore why are you pardoning Hunter? Or they are just as rotten and filthy and politicized as Donald Trump has been telling you, and that's why you had to pardon Hunter, which is it? No, it's because of who's coming in. No, no, no, no, that's not what Joe Biden said. Joe Biden said his son was specifically targeted because his last name was Biden and because it was a political hit because he was the president's son. That has nothing to do with Donald Trump because he is not in power. None of his appointees have been confirmed. No power has changed over. This is still the Obama DOJ. This is still the Obama executive branch. All the agencies serve at the pleasure of the president of the United States. They've all been put in those positions because of Joe Biden putting them there. So I go back to my another question, my initial question, including you, Chris Coons, which is it? Is the FBI and the DOJ so broken that they would actually go after the president's son solely for political reasons, which makes absolutely no sense given the fact that these are the people who are in place because of the Democrat party, but okay, that's what Joe Biden said. So we got to take Joe Biden at his word. Either it's so irretrievably broken that they were willing to go after the president's son and therefore needs reform, which means Donald Trump's been right all along, or they're not broken, in which case you lied, and now you're making another lie to justify your son who committed all these crimes to get out of the crimes he committed, including all the ones that he may have done and may still be charged with, which is what that blanket immunity did, starting all the way back to January 1 of 2014. Let's get to some of the discussion going on. And I've got Scott Jennings. I told you earlier I was gonna have a couple of things. Scott Jennings posed this very same kind of catch-22 scenario to former Congressman Bowman, Mr. Fire alarm puller, who was on CNN's panel last night, and Scott Jennings asked a very simple question. This is the very question that I say you guys need to have at your disposal. This was last night's CNN. - You're bringing up an issue and you brought it up, so I wanna address it. This idea that Hunter Biden is being selectively prosecuted. Now one of the core criticisms of the Republicans, and Trump specifically during the Biden years, is that the Department of Justice is engaging in selective prosecution investigations of Republicans. And today what I hear Democrats saying is, you know what, you're right. Joe Biden's DOJ does engage in selective prosecutions, which is exactly why we need people to come in and clean it out now. There seems to be bipartisan consensus. - But if you don't have that-- - Selective prosecution. - Does it open? - Oh, he's pointing it out, and everyone there is just like, (grunting) totally incapable of engaging in actual real conversation, having a reasoned, logical, thoughtful conversation. Scott James brings up exactly what I am. It's a simple catch 22. It can't be both. This is not one of those things where they're not mutually exclusive, no, they are. You can't say they are fundamentally corrupt and pure as the wind-driven snow. They can't coexist in the same world. It is either one or the other. You can't have both. I'm gonna get another little sound bite here between Scott Jennings and former representative Bowman on this panel from last night. - Nothing is changed. - Can I ask a question? Do you all think that Merritt Garland should be fired because of this corruption at the DOJ? - Again, I don't think there's corruption at the DOJ. I think the concern is the future DOJ is going to be corrupted. - You think there's corruption there, you think this was a politicized witch hunt, but the attorney general should be held accountable, no? - These charges were trumped up because his name is Hunter Biden. - But wouldn't you, if you were the hunter, if you were the hunter, he'd be attorney. - Let's consult our legal expert. - Jamal Bowman, not able to answer the question, he actually walked right into it again. He's like, I mean, shouldn't Merritt Garland? I mean, I mean, Merritt Garland's in charge of this. Shouldn't he be fired because of this corruption? And Jamal Bowman, Hunter Biden was prosecuted because of his name. Is there a fire alarm I can pull somewhere? Arr! - He's like, well then, if that's the case, then wouldn't you believe that the attorney general should step down that if what you're saying is true here, Jamal, Jamal, do you understand what you're saying? In an effort to protect Joe Biden and to try to give an explanation for why he lied and why all of the media went in with the lie and all of the media sat there on their virtuous perch to be able to yell at the Republicans for the last several months during the campaign, knowing full well that Joe Biden was gonna go back on his word. If you believe that Merritt Garland's DOJ targeted Hunter Biden, why wouldn't you say he needs to step down? - Let's consult our legal expert. I'm not very smart. I was only a teacher, and I thought fire alarms opened doors. I'm not very smart. This is what I have to watch, folks. This is what I keep you from. The woman that was interrupting in a little bit there about saying, oh no, he didn't lie. The circumstances changed, and of course, Scott tried to ignore her, but that's Lee McGowan. Okay, there may not be a worse debater if you're trying to stay with facts than an unhinged liberal white woman. No, no, I'm sorry. I don't like to play racial cards. I don't like playing the demographics, but there does seem to be a fairly consistent trend of unhinged, emotionally unwell white liberal women who try to make what they think are reasoned arguments, and they just, if you were just being a little bit intellectually honest, you'd go, bless your heart, please, please stop. You're not helping. You want, I know you're passionate. I know you're arguing. I know you feel you're right. You feel it, but you're not. This was the exchange that I just, I was like, you've got to be kidding me. This is Lee McGowan trying to debate Scott Jennings in the same panel last night. - But wasn't to Scott's point. I mean, wasn't it a lie? I mean, you can defend it, but wasn't it a lie? - Now that was the host, sorry. That was the host initially, who was asking the question of Lee. So then I want to make sure that we get to Lee's response here. - He was not going to pardon it. - No, I believe the circumstances have changed. I think that we have now have a president coming into office who's talking about firing squads, who's talking about running people around the country and making sure that everyone who's his enemy is going to be punished. And Hunter Biden lied about his drug use on a government forum when he was buying a gun, and he failed to file and pay taxes when he was a drug addict. He paid back those taxes with interest. Donald Trump himself was indicted for 17 counts of criminal tax fraud, more than Hunter. And he's going to be the president of the United States. - 11 years. - You're missing a few figures. - Yeah, Scott's trying to go like, first, if you had seen the eye roll and the fact that he's like, you got to be kidding me. The circumstances have changed because now with Donald Trump, there's going to be firing squads that they're going to go around the country, rounding people up. They're going to go persecute every single one of his enemies. That's Lee McGowan. And then turns around and goes, and look at, really, all Hunter Biden really did. Oh, what do you look at? What do you really look at? All he really did is he filled out a form wrong and that he didn't pay his taxes, but he paid him back with interest. I mean, come on, look at Donald Trump! Look at Trump! Trump! - I mean, that's unhinged. And I'm telling you, she's arguing it with such sincerity. I think she believes what she's saying, but listen to what she's saying. She's using the propaganda, the lies. She's using the hoaxes that have been crafted to try to convince you not to vote for Trump. Trump was going to have firing squads. Trump was going to have concentration camps. Trump was going to monitor every woman's pregnancy. Trump was going to make sure that if you were biracial, he married to somebody that he was going to make you divorce. Trump was going to round up all of the mixed breeds and half breeds and multi breeds, and he was going to separate everybody and he was going to burn the country down. And I mean, all of the fear mongering and fear porn and nonsense. And here is a woman who's on a panel that you're supposed to take seriously, and Lee McGowan is an unhinged, uneducated, spouting nonsense, mentally unwell liberal. She is not capable of having a cogent conversation. If you or anyone in this audience, or anybody you know in this audience, really believes that Donald Trump is just going to start randomly rounding people up, like the ghettos, before the beginning of the Holocaust, and just start shooting people and stacking bodies in the street, you're out of your mind. You have really, you need to really talk to somebody. It's one thing to not like the policies of somebody, but to believe such unrealistic, just, just, I mean, it's amazing to me that you would believe that. I mean, that you have to have the imagination and really the life experience of a four-year-old. I mean, you're acting like a child who still pretends that there's a monster in the closet and that you have to keep the light on because it might crawl out in the middle of the night and you're fully convinced you hook up that four-year-old to a lie detector. They believe that, but we know that's not true. There's no monster hiding in the closet. You are falling for the boogeyman in the closet. You think that the boogeyman's going to come out and gobble you up? That's a four-year-old. That's not a fully-grown, fully-functioning, mature adult who's capable of reasonable and high-complex thinking. That's not a cogent human being. That's a child. That is a child with a very undeveloped brain. Which, by the way, nothing wrong with that. I love, I love the fancifulness of children. I love, I've been, I want it to be a dad my whole life. I love being a dad. I love when I get a chance to be around and mentor other children and talk to kids. My children are great. This whole idea that we've got this war on not having kids, maybe the greatest thing that you can do. Not only do you get the chance to pass on who you are through them, but you get to see who they become. And you get to impart knowledge and wisdom. You get to watch them grow and then see what gifts they were bestowed by God. Because I can guarantee you, my kids have some gifts that I know I don't have. So they got it from somewhere, one from me. And on the flip side, we've taught them so many life skills and that is directly from us. Between my wife and I, we love the fact that we have independent, fully functioning adults who are now productive and part of society. They're not sponging off. They're not trying to figure out why they're the victim of something. They don't have to come back home. They're functioning adults because we invested in them. And part of the reason we invested in them is because we couldn't wait to see what they would become. We loved it and don't get me wrong, plenty of times we were like, why did we have kids? I think every parent at some point goes, oh my God, they're gonna be the death of me. But every kid goes through those phases. But I just, these people that are fully formed adults, that's where I don't have a lot of patience. Once you become an adult and you still act like a four year old, I can't take you seriously. I can't believe anybody that was listening to that could take that seriously. Who believes? I mean, who at all believes that Donald Trump is gonna start rounding people up, start just randomly shooting people and stacking bodies in streets. I mean, come on. It's just, it's so ludicrous. It almost means you should lose every argument moving forward. Anything that you've ever said should have zero credibility if that's who you are. Now on the flip side, you got a lot of these Democrat mayors, all these sanctuary city folks who are still saying, we'll fight. We're gonna fight Donald Trump's deportation. We believe that this is a golden land of opportunity. We want everyone here. We don't see skin color. We don't see nation of origin. We just see people and we want them here. Blah-di-blah-di-blah. Okay, fine. And remember Tom Holman asked this and I said, oh yeah, who in their right mind wouldn't want to get rid of the criminal elements? At the very least, you might want to say, look, we're gonna fight you on the people that have been working really hard. We've got a track record of going to work every day, coming home, buying things in the community, buying food, buying, you know, paying rent, you know, they're productive members. We'll fight you on them. But you want the criminals? You want the national security threats taken away? Absolutely, you take them. Who in the world wouldn't want that? But these liberal mayors and these liberal governors who want to play this virtue signaling game of, everyone is worthy and everyone can be here. And you're gonna have police by the way start saying, don't say that because all the criminals are gonna come here, they're gonna come here to avoid being taken into custody. They're gonna do that because they don't want to be deported. These people, liberals don't think things through. I really don't think they've ever played chess in their lives. You know the whole idea about the difference between chess and checkers? Chess, you have to think two, three, four moves ahead. If I do this, what are the possible repercussions of my opponent? What will they do? Am I gonna be in trouble in two or three moves? Or am I gonna put them in trouble? You have to start thinking long-term. These folks don't think that because once again, they're emotionally driven. The emotion feels, emotions are about satisfying the immediacy of the heat of the moment. When you are an emotionally driven person, you wanna say something, you wanna do something, you wanna enact something right now. You don't wanna think it through, you don't wanna stop and mull it over. You don't wanna say, whoa, am I allowing my emotions to get the better of me? No, you don't even think about that. You go all in with the emotional argument and almost always, you'll be wrong. Almost always, you will be wrong if you solely rely on an emotional reaction instead of thinking things through and then being proactive. Here's an example. Why would you not wanna take the people that you know are here illegally who are on either terror watch list, are from terror countries, or are from countries that are willing to commit terroristic acts? Why would you want them in the United States? Headline. Without a reckoning, the first US terror attack caused by open borders won't be the last. And you're like, "Wait a minute, what terror attack?" Ah, you probably didn't hear a whole lot about it. This story dropped yesterday. And it starts off. This was written actually in the Federalist. It was written by Todd Bensman. And it starts off surprisingly, little news coverage followed America's first terror attack by an illegal border crossing immigrant on US soil. This took place on Saturday when 22 year old Mauritanian Citi Mohammed Abdullahi was found dead of an apparent hanging suicide in his Cook County, Illinois jail cell. Now who was this guy, Abdullahi? Well, he was a guy who came across the border from Tijuana to San Diego back in March of 2023. He was then freed, even though they knew there was some suspicion to him by US border patrol per the Biden-Harris policies. Under orders from the Biden-Harris Department of Homeland Security, border patrol has released millions of illegal entrants into the United States over the last four years. On October the 26th, just a couple of, what, three, four weeks ago? Abdullahi allegedly hunted down and then shot in the back and identifiable Orthodox Jewish man walking to synagogue and then tried to up the body count by attacking responding police all while shouting, Aloha Akbar! 'Cause you know, that's what we always say when we just mean peace be with you, Merry Christmas and good tidings to all men. Folks, the police know after looking at his social media searches, they know after looking at what was in his apartment, they looked at his phone. They know this guy intentionally picked where he could find the highest probability of finding Jewish people so he could kill them. What do you call that? What do you call a foreign-born citizen, someone whose name, by the way, I'm just so that way you get it pronounced correctly, Moratannian, Sidi, Mohammed, Abdullahi, had crossed the border and was found having targeted Jewish areas, a Jewish area of the city where he thought he could then work and he did work on plans and he mapped routes. This was in Chicago. He mapped out two locations of two Chicago synagogues and a Jewish community center. That was in the Chicago Sun times. Now, maybe he didn't get the mass media reporting. I don't know why, why would the legacy mainstream media not want this across every single television across every single network at night? This took place November the 21st. Once he finally decided he was gonna carry out his act, he went to a store, went to a gun store, bought a gun, went out, shot a man in the back and then Abdullahi, he displayed a relentless desire to increase his body count and seemed tactically aware of how to take out hard human targets like police officers because he was planning on where they'd come from and how best to try to take out as many of them ahead of time. Surprisingly, no one was killed. The only one who died is eventually this dude hung himself in his own cell. But this was the first and won't be the last unless we deport these people. This to me is one of the biggest stories and the biggest reasons why the deportation plans got to go forward and we've got to stop hearing about all of these knuckleheads, all of these silly individual mayors and governors who want to try to protect these people. What are they thinking? Let me listen, let you listen to the sheriff of Frederick Maryland who just made this statement about whether or not they should cooperate with ICE and why he disagrees with the mayor of Frederick. - Basically what the mayor said in his statement, he is gonna try and protect the non-citizen residents of Frederick City by not working with ICE, not cooperating with ICE who is gonna come in and they're gonna make a rest. He doesn't have the right to do that. It's not his business to do that. ICE has the authority and they will come into this jurisdiction, come into the city and pick up the targets AD necessary to pick up. To me, he's invited more problems potentially by saying, we're gonna protect you in Frederick City, we're not gonna cooperate, so that including by other criminal elements, including criminal gangs, that may think they're safe here by the mayor's comments. We have no jurisdiction in Frederick County to go out and do the job of ICE and to make arrests under the federal authority. We don't have that jurisdiction, we don't have that authority. Our sole source of cooperation here in Frederick County is a 287G program which is a jail-based program. However, what I see is something we can do as an agency here at the sheriff's office is cooperate with ICE if in fact they need an ask for cooperation in the sense of logistical support, maybe transportation, maybe a place to work out of, to keep their agents on the street to pick up the criminals. - It seems like what a sheriff should be doing. In fact, that's exactly what a sheriff should be doing. He's worried about, you've got this politicized mayor, hey, come to Frederick, Maryland, come on up here guys, we protect you in the legals. - And you got the sheriff going, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what are you doing, buddy? Do you have any idea what you've just done? Are you really that stupid? Are you really that incapable of seeing what you've just done? Do you never, have you never played chess? You just announced to the world, hey, if you're an illegal, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter who you are, it doesn't matter what you've done, it doesn't matter your background, you're safe here. And sheriff's like, what are you doing? And he's like, look, we can't go start arresting all these people, that's not our jurisdiction. But there is a program where we cooperate with immigration and customs enforcement. And he's like, yeah, and guess what? To protect the citizens, we are willing to help. In fact, it could turn out to be something like, maybe they need some additional transportation, they've rounded up some people and they need our vehicles to be able to carry them safely so they don't harm anybody, we can get them somewhere, we can also put those operating agents, maybe we need to give them some office space to work out of, but we can certainly work alongside them. You know, there are over, when you look at how many counties, 'cause it's sheriff's by county. So there are 3,083 sheriffs in the United States. I'd like to believe that when you elect a sheriff, they understand they're answerable to the people. Sheriffs, they're in an elected position. It's not a city cop. It's not, you know, the sheriff of your county is, and it's done intentionally. The way our constitutional republic was created, to prevent a federal police force from denying citizens their rights, the sheriff is elected by the people in their county to protect the rights of the citizens. The sheriff would be there to stop the FBI from coming in and harassing people without due process. It's done that way as a check and balance against a federal, an arm of federal tyranny, utilizing, oh, I don't know, like the FBI to go terrorize people. Your sheriff is there as the buffer to protect the citizens from that. Now, they also, of course, enforce the law. They hire deputies to make sure that the law is enforced, but the sheriff, not the deputies, is an elected position, which means, I think most of 'em are every four years, they have to go back in front of the very people to whom they serve and ask, can I have my job still? Think about that, every four years, your sheriff has to ask the citizens, am I allowed to stay in the job? Is it okay? Do you mind if I, can I keep working? That's nerve-racking. And it also means it's a check and balance to keep your sheriff answerable to the people. If the people believe that the sheriff is abusing the power, if they're not doing what they believe that he or she should be doing as the sheriff of their county, and in four years they can change 'em out. But you've got a reasonable approach there from a sheriff who's like, why would we not cooperate? Why would we do anything to invite a criminal element here? We want the criminal elements out, because what's the ultimate duty of public service? Protect the citizenry. To protect the citizens. Let's get to Cash Patel for a second. You know, a lot of people are really upset, you know, everybody keeps trying to use this. You know, the whole reason Joe Biden changed his mind, it's not that he lied, it's just because he saw that what Donald Trump was nominating, we're gonna be a people who might go after people and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, I already asked you, if you haven't done anything, what are you worried about? But let's play the game. Maybe, maybe the reason they're worried, could it be that the FBI might have tools in their arsenal that are so powerful, that are so intrusive into the rights of an American citizen that maybe they shouldn't be in charge of those tools. If you're that worried that the FBI can be targeted to go after somebody like Hunter Biden who supposedly did nothing wrong, or anybody else for that matter, you're saying we can't trust Cash Patel to run the FBI because Cash Patel might weaponize the FBI, well, well, what could he possibly do? Are there tools in the FBI that suddenly have you concerned? Are there programs in the FBI? I mean, if you didn't do anything wrong, what are you suggesting the FBI can manufacture evidence? Are you suggesting the FBI can randomly eavesdrop on anybody without a warrant? They can go through your DMs, they can go through your email without even you knowing it? Are you suggesting that that's a power that maybe you're worried about when suddenly there's a shift in power? Well, let's get a comment from Washington Post columnist and deep state mouthpiece David Ignatius who was on MSNBC this morning on the morning Joe, bright and early. He wanted to add this to the conversation. It's from the Washington Post, he's a columnist, but he loves the deep state. This is his warning. This is what he wanted everybody on morning Joe to be aware of. And I think what's of concern when you think about him as FBI director is the FBI director has extraordinary powers to conduct surveillance on American citizens and those powers to listen into phone calls, to read mail, so to speak, would be directed by somebody who has shown that he has a very political agenda. And as you said, in his book, he had an enemy's list. So then my question back is who was the idiot that gave the FBI those kinds of powers? Because presidency, you know, the pendulum swings. I mean, shouldn't we have had enough foresight to say, well, wait a minute, while it sounds cool to give the person we like this power, what happens if somebody comes in under the next election cycle and we don't like them? Should we give them the same power? What you're hearing is the deep state loves it when a Democrat's got that power. Did you hear what he said? The FBI director has extraordinary powers to conduct surveillance on American citizens, do they? I mean, with a FISA warrant, only when it's a national security threat. I thought that was pretty clear. I thought the Patriot Act wasn't about just Willy Nilly. You think someone did something wrong. You have to have some pretty darn good evidence to break someone's constitutional rights to spy on them without their knowledge. But you've got David Ignatius saying, quote, the FBI director has extraordinary powers to conduct surveillance on American citizens. And those powers to listen in, to phone calls, to read mail, so to speak, would be directed by someone who has shown that he has a very political agenda. I ask again, why would you give the FBI those tools? Because you know there's always gonna be a swinging pendulum in this country. We are sometimes gonna swing more left, we're gonna swing more right. We may be in the middle and then we're gonna swing again. We've just all been living through one of the worst swings to the left in our lifetimes. And we have seen a sudden shift in a mandate back to the right. We wanna get back to our constitutional republic. So you're telling me that you've given the FBI these powers that now make you scared of who's running the FBI. Well, maybe if we're scared that someone has access to these powers and they're running the FBI, then maybe they shouldn't have those powers to begin with. What do you guys think? And doesn't it seem reasonable that if it scares you that maybe they've got too much power, they've got too many toys that can infringe on the rights of others and could be misused by those with a political agenda? I think that's a strong, strong statement. I think what he didn't realize by being on the morning, Joe, is he's really proved the point that we have a weaponized Department of Justice. We have a weaponized FBI because now they're worried that the very tools they liked to be able to use when they're in charge, they don't want the other side to use them. Well, if we believe we're all Americans and we believe that the FBI serves all Americans and if we wanna believe the talking points from Christopher Ray and from Merrick Garland, that they're never politicized and they're very nonpartisan and they don't wage two kinds of war and they blah, blah, blah. Okay. Well, if that's the case then you shouldn't care who's in charge of the FBI. That shouldn't worry you what tools they have. The fact that you're worried means the FBI is grown too powerful because you should be able to trust regardless of which party's in charge. Or you're suggesting that the culture is so easily swayed that the culture within the FBI can be manipulated to do things that they're not constitutionally obligated to do that they can go against their sworn oath to protect and uphold the constitution of the United States. See, these guys keep putting themselves in these catch-22s that I think are just great. I just wish more people would point it out. You shouldn't be afraid of who's running the FBI based on the tools unless you're worried that those tools have been misused already. Why would you worry that they can misuse the tools in their arsenal unless it's already happened? All right, let's get to something a little more positive. We heard about, you know, of the 100 plus people that Hamas still has in custody. It came out a couple of days ago that an American has been found, the remains of an American has been found. And I believe they said in the news that it was likely that the American that was taken into as a hostage didn't survive past the date. I mean, I may have read that wrong, but it's interesting. Joe Biden in the White House puts out a memo. We are thinking of the family and we mourn as a nation. And those are fine words. I don't want to mock the president should mourn for any American killed at the hands of a foreign aggressor. But that's all we got from Joe. That's it. That is all we got. Do you know what we got from the president elect? We got a statement on social media that has been shared around the world that says to Hamas, you've got till January 20th to release every hostage, not just the Americans, every hostage. You better do it because if you think, and this is a great, if you think you felt what it's like to be under assault from your, you know, currently, if you think what you've been going through for the last year with Israel doggedly going after you, if you think that was bad, you haven't, I'm going to unleash hell. There will be all hell to pay in the Middle East. He said, all of the hostages. Now, does anybody in the sound of my voice think when Donald Trump says that, he doesn't mean it? Does anyone in the world think Donald Trump doesn't mean it? See, peace through strength, but you better be willing to do what's necessary to prove the strength you have. You better, if you make a threat, you carry it out. You can't make a threat and not carry out on it, okay? You have to always carry it out. So don't make a threat, you're not willing to go all in on. And we've seen this happen before. Remember when it was Assad Belashar started throwing some missiles toward US troops? And all of a sudden out of nowhere, Donald Trump says, you hit every one of their runways. You hit every bit of their infrastructure we can with every cruise missile at our disposal within the next 12 hours. And I want to just give them a message that if they ever do that again, that was only a taste. Remember Donald Trump didn't start a war. Syria attacked one of our locations and it caused injury or may even killed on American. Donald Trump immediately said, let's show him what we're capable of. I remember I was sitting at an Atlanta Hawks basketball game with some friends and I was, you know, I'm always ready to be on call at my flagship station, WSB and Atlanta. And the program director texted me and said, hey, you got a second, can I call you? I'm like, oh, yeah, you know what? I'm thinking it's a program director. I'm not about to say no, I'm at a basketball game. So I kind of went to the back hallway, where you head to the bathroom, trying to get out of the noise. And he's like, don't know if you've been paying attention to the news, but it looks like Donald Trump launched a bunch of missiles on Syria. We're going to do a special show. Can you come in first thing in the morning to start fielding calls about it? I'm like, yes, sir. I immediately started getting on social media, started to get caught up. And on the ride home, all the people that were with me knew my job, they knew I worked for WSB Atlanta. And they said, okay, we'll listen to Fox News, we'll listen to the CNN news. We'll just kind of go back and forth. We've got serious XM in the car. We'll go back and forth and hear all the breaking reports so that way you can start to get up to speed. And I was ready to go the next day. Never had to launch another missile, not into Syria, not after that. Donald Trump didn't start a war. He prevented a war by showing peace through strength. He showed just what we are capable of doing. Look what he did with ISIS. You guys remember when he told the story to Joe Rogan? I don't know if you watched that three hour, which was amazing. I was blown away with the sweeping conversation going into all these different topics and Donald Trump just bang, bang, bang, sticking with it. But one of the things he said is, I kept asking all of my generals at the Pentagon at the Department of Defense, how come we can't get rid of ISIS? How long is it gonna take? We wanna get ISIS out of there. How long is this gonna take? Oh, sir, years, it's gonna take years. It's like years, we're the United States of America. You're telling me we can't beat these guys? Oh, you don't understand the territory. You don't understand the strategy. It's gonna take years. And he's like, okay, okay. And then he told the story about getting on Air Force One to fly into Afghanistan. And it's a great story, by the way. At the very least, you should go find that story, that element, because he talks about he's Air Force One. He's the president, the most powerful nation in the world. And they had to go lights out. They had to approach with no running lights, no identifying lights. All the shades had to be drawn. They had to be completely black. And the president goes, I'm a little concerned. You know, I've flown a lot. And I go up to, I'm talking to these captains. I'm talking to the pilots, you know? And he goes, some of the best pilots ever. And he's like, guys, we don't have any lights on it. He's like, yeah, that's right, sir. We gotta, we gotta come in this way because it's not safe. He's like, it's not safe. We've been in Afghanistan how many years? It's not safe for us. And then he goes, where's the landing? And they're like, right up ahead, sir. He goes, there's no lights on. How do you know? He goes, it's there, sir, don't worry. And he said, I started to get nervous because we're getting lower and lower and lower. And I don't see any runway lights. I don't see anything. I don't see anything. It's black. He said, I started to think maybe this is it. Maybe I'm, we're not gonna make it. And next thing you know, we land. And he said, from that moment, I wanted to find out why we didn't have this under control. So I went and I got the base commanders. I brought the people who were there on the ground. And I said, I need to talk to everybody. Why, why, why am I coming in under cover of darkness? Like we're cowering. We're, we're the ones who are hiding from the enemy. Why? Why have we not defeated them? How long would it take? And the generals are like, well, well, well, sir, you know, we take our orders from the, from the Pentagon. He goes, all right, guess what? They're not here. I am. You guys report up to me. I'm the commander in chief. I want your assessment. If I took every shackle off of you, I want to know, I want it and I want it fair and I want to get it real. Don't you lie to me. What would it take and how long to get ISIS under control? And I get it. I know that I know the military chain of command. These guys were worried, you know, when the word gets back to the political generals who are in their little cushy offices in the Pentagon, when they get word that we told them that we can do this in about 30 days, they're going to lose their minds. But we've got the president of the United States ordering us to tell him what would it take? How long? And I'm like, sir, you know, 30 days, we could probably do it within a month if we just went all out. He's like, okay, you're doing it. Get it done. And what happened within 30 days, we had ISIS pretty much off the map. When did they come back? Right after Joe Biden took over. And then what happened within months of Joe Biden being in office, that disastrous retreat from Afghanistan where ISIS pushed him around, where ISIS told him, hey, here's how it's going to happen. Here's the timeline. Here's what you're going to do. And remember, Joe Biden tried to beg for more time and they said no. And he capitulated to ISIS. Do you see the difference, folks? There's a huge difference. Joe Biden, it's great that some staffer wrote, our thoughts and prayers are with the family and yada yada. And that's good. No sense of strength. No sense of leadership. No sense of direction. Just an adult old fool who is siphoning off of all of that taxpayer money, ingratiating himself and the rest of his family. Donald Trump tells them, you've got till January 20. And if you don't have them out, all of them out, all hell to pay in the Middle East, his exact words. And I believe him. As we start to wind down, it makes me feel both vindicated but also sad because I'm not a microbiologist. I'm not a virologist. I'm not a medical doctor. I'm not a researcher. Heck, I'm not a scientist. But I understand how to read. And I've got a fascination for biology and science about anatomy and chemistry. I've always been fascinated and I know how to read. I'm capable of grabbing a journal, an article. I'm a scientific paper, a report. Sometimes they write in such a language. I'm like, I don't even know if this is English. I mean, I'm talking some real high level stuff but I'm always fascinated by it. And when COVID hit, I initially bought into the fear porn and I hate to admit I did. And I'll tell you why I felt victim to it because the March Madness was getting ready to start. I mean, March Madness, I love March Madness, my wife. I had never watched college basketball until I met my wife. Well, the woman who would become my wife. And she got me into college basketball and we have not missed an opening round of college basketball. We do our brackets every year. I have a blast. And when they canceled March Madness, I was like, whoa. Holy crap, we're gonna see some heinous death. We're gonna see some serious, if they're really, that it's gotta, I said to myself, if they're willing to do that, it's gotta be bad. Within two weeks, I was going, wait a minute. Now we're talking about going two more weeks. And then we're gonna talk about two more, but now we're gonna say essential workers are allowed to go work, but the non-essential workers don't work. Essential workers also include people at Walmart, but they don't count the mom and pop Ace Hardwares or the little local shops. But wait a minute. You wanna have the small businesses go out of business while the big box stores somehow have enough capital to rally these governors and rally the public health to say, well, it's okay for them to stay open. It's like, wait a minute. Now it's not making sense. And then within six weeks, it's like, well, if you gather within groups of six or less, that's okay, but you gotta keep six foot distant. And I'm like, and all this nonsense. And I was like, okay, no, none of this makes sense. We're not doing anything that makes sense. In fact, if you ask me how to do it the wrong way, it feels like everything we're doing is intentionally backwards. It's like we didn't learn anything. It's like we forgot how things work. Well, the House COVID Committee, which by the way has been investigating the government's response and public health response for the last two years, they've been looking into it. Well, they released their findings yesterday. The cover letter, the cover sheet of this report says, "Select subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic, "chairman Brad Wenstrup." And then it says underneath, "After action review of the COVID-19 pandemic, "the lessons learned and a path forward." I was like, oh, well, I'm interested in seeing what this says. So the committee, and here's just a summary. I mean, I didn't get a chance to read this voluminous document as always with the government. It's always super long, but I do have a summary. Here are some of the major findings, and then we can break down some detail as well. The National Institute of Health did, in fact, fund the gain of function research at the Wuhan Lab. Well, we all know that. But how many of us were deep platform censored called conspiracy theorists because we said that early on? The second major finding in this report, the Constitution cannot be suspended in times of crisis. Amen, the time we should have been following it to the letter even more is when there's a crisis, not using the crisis as a reason to suspend the Constitution. There is never a reason to suspend the Constitution of the United States of America, and that is what so many of these leftist lunatics did. Number three, COVID emerging from a lab leak is not a conspiracy theory. Well, duh, but it took a two-year investigative panel from our government to come up with the fact that we all figured out out here, all by ourselves, within a few weeks of the whole stupid lockdowns. EcoHealth and Dr. Peter Dasick should quote, never again received taxpayer funds. Well, they knew what they were doing. Dr. Fauci knew what he was doing. He knew he couldn't fund gain a function work directly. He knew the National Institute of Health. There was a law pass. You're not supposed to do that. You can't take federal taxpayer dollars and play Frankenstein with viruses. So what did Dr. Fauci do? He had a friend named Peter Dasick who ran a separate organization outside a government. EcoHealth Alliance, can we call that an NGO, a non-governmental organization? And we funneled so many billions of dollars right through them and then it could go to fund to gain a function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. - And that great. Once again, we told you that's what happened. We chartered that timeline. I had this for so many days and weeks in a row. I think I was losing listeners for a while because they thought I was full of crap. But I always stuck to my guns simply because I was doing real research. I was asking real questions. I was getting real data, not listening to the crap that public health was trying to shove down our throats. Another major finding from the House COVID Committee was public health officials have now lost the trust of the people. Amen. What have I told you so many times? I'll never trust public health again. It's gonna take immense reform and even then time before I even think to think that to believe that public health is correct on anything. They did say that Trump's Operation Warp Speed was a success. Now, I take a little bit of umbrage with that because Donald Trump still thinks the vaccine, which was a result of Operation Warp Speed, but that wasn't the only thing. But that the vaccine, that that was a positive thing. I don't think so. But don't forget Operation Warp Speed was about a lot of other things. About reconditioning plants. Like auto plants and things to start putting out ventilators and respirators, which of course we turned out were the death sentence for people. They should not have had done that, but that's what public health said to do. It took that and made it a priority to get protective gear, PPE gear, all of the cleaning gear. Like a lot of that was all tied up in the Operation Warp Speed. So in a sense, leveraging government to streamline processes to make things happen, that was a success. The vaccine, the experimental gene therapy, not so much. Next major finding, the COVID response was quote, rampant with fraud, waste, and abuse. Most notably, all of the money that flowed out of the federal government. All of, not just money to pay you to sit at home and do nothing, but think about what they did to encourage hospitals to not only list people with COVID, even if they didn't have it, but then to say that they needed to be on a ventilator and then if they died from it. Remember, it was like a bounty. Every time you upped it, the hospital would get more money from the federal government. So if you died, and the death certificate said you died from COVID, I think the hospital would get something like 30 or $40,000 to help compensate the hospital. So even if you didn't die from COVID, you died because you had a heart attack, but you tested positive for the COVID virus, they counted you as a COVID death, remember? So they could get their money from the federal government. So the COVID response was rampant. They said their words with fraud, waste, and abuse. Another major finding, the prescription, the cure, whatever you're gonna do to treat, the prescription cannot be worse than the disease. For example, the lockdowns had horrific consequences on society. Everything I said for years has come to pass as true. Everything I told you was true. Nothing I told you was a lie. Even though it was labeled conspiracy or, oh my God, you're just one of those people, anti-vaxx or anti-science and I'm like, no, no. I was up to the information. I actually was doing the research. I was reading and I get it. So many of you, and I don't blame you if you were fooled by the media, you've been woken up now, but you believe them. You thought, why would they lie to us? Don't they have our best interest at heart? And you realize now they don't. In fact, they haven't had your best interest at heart for a very, very long time. And I think one of the things I'm very happy about is we are seeing so many of you waking up. We are seeing so many of you who are not woke, but you are waking up. And I think that is so important as we move forward in this reformation that we're going through. We're going through a political reformation and it's gonna be tough and you're gonna hear a lot of lies and a lot of screaming and a lot of wailing and gnashing a teeth from the left because they don't wanna lose power. They don't wanna lose what they've been, they've been slowly gathering and amassing. They can't let go of the levers of power. So keep in mind, every single night they put somebody on the talking head programs telling you that this nominee is horrible and that nominee is not qualified and this nominee is a serial rapist and this one's a criminal and this one's an anti-Semite. All the lies, it's all about making sure they stay in power themselves. They don't wanna turn it over. They don't want someone else taking it over and more importantly, they don't want anybody uncovering what they've been doing this whole time. They want it all for themselves. You, you're expendable. Like I told you, the Democrat party, when the whole idea of bringing all these illegals in they try to not only sway elections but to try to eventually grow congressional districts and therefore gain more in the electoral college. They, someone said somewhere, you know what? We're gonna lose some Americans if we do this and they said, you know what? We're okay with it. In our minds, a percentage of Americans, we're okay, we're accepting as collateral damage Americans as long as we stay in power. That's, they, there is no other way to justify what they've done. Other than they've said to themselves, we are okay with a certain number of Americans being prayed victim on, being murdered, raped, falling victim to drug abuse and eventually drug overdose. We're okay with that. We know it may only be two or three percent a year, but we're okay with that if we can get the votes and stay in power. It's, it's too many years of institutions high, of institutions of higher indoctrination and grooming, churning out years and years of mushy-headed non-thinkers. Just mushy-headed non-thinkers, people who are not capable of thinking. I wanna play for you an example of this, a music teacher in Austin, Texas, who went on an unhinged rant against the parents of students who supported Donald Trump. This is an example of somebody who wants to teach our children. I don't wanna hear one single word from a single Republican Trump loving parent when the public school system stops working for their kid. I don't wanna hear one word from any Republican parents that live in rural areas when their school gets shut down and consolidated with another school 20 miles away because theirs doesn't have enough Title I funding to operate anymore. I don't wanna hear a single word from any parent of a special needs child that voted for Donald Trump when their kid stops receiving services and supports at school. You no longer get to play the victim anymore. We will do everything that we possibly can to make sure your child still receives free and appropriate public school education as it is required by law. But you do not get any extra support or sympathy. I'm gonna need you all to suffer in silence and figure it out on your own. When Republican parents finally realized how much their public school system has atrophied because of neglect due to Republicans. And when they finally come to the realization that they're gonna have to pull their kid out of public school, quit their job and homeschool their kid or even more hilarious when they finally decide that no matter how many vouchers Donald Trump promises to give them, they're never going to afford private school. I don't wanna hear one single complaint out of any one of those parents that voted for Donald Trump. - This is an unhinged, unwell, deranged woman. And she's not a child, but she's got an infant-like understanding of the world. See, in her mind, all of the things that she just said you're gonna lose is if Donald Trump gets rid of the Department of Education at the federal level. It's sophistry. It's a child's understanding of the world. It's what happens when you churn out of the ivory tower of higher indoctrination and grooming these skulls full of mush. Just rancid, non-thinking, highly emotional, mentally unwell, mush. All this money that's being doled out by the Department of Education, guess what? Why do you need a federal Department of Education taking up about $200 million in and of itself to then distribute billions of taxpayer dollars to the states and justify their existence by saying, we're gonna have better results with our kids by federalizing education. - Yeah, well, we've got what, a 40 year track record, 40 plus years of what federalizing our education has done, and it's not good. All that money can now flow directly to every state and that state can dole out. Every state should be responsible. Every state has a state Department of Education. Guess what? You don't need a federal overseer of every individual state. You can send each individual state their fair share of the taxpayer money. And by the way, probably send more because you're gonna get rid of about $280 million of operating budget from an agency that has resa-- You wanna know what your Department of Education has given us, ladies and gentlemen? This is the most recent data across all schools. You factor in every school, the highest performing, the least performing in public education. As of right now, right now, 2024, only 31% of eighth graders are proficient in reading. Less than a third of eighth graders can read at grade level. 30% are below basic readers. They're literally listed as functionally illiterate. They know just enough words to say bathroom, exit, enter, but they don't know how to read and they certainly don't have to read for content. One third of the country, eighth graders, cannot read for basic understanding. So only 31% are proficient at reading, but 30% are so bad, they're listed as functionally illiterate. It's worse for math, folks. Eighth graders, only 27% of all eighth graders in the country are proficient in math. Everyone else is substandard. That is almost three quarters of all public school students, middle school age students, eighth graders, getting ready to head into high school, only or just over a quarter are capable of doing the math they need to be able to understand the next levels of math. Three quarters can't even do basic, or are proficient in basic math. Yeah, let the onion, you should tell you about all the things they don't know, but understand it's because they don't know what they're talking about. They are skulls full of mush that have been a result of watching too many years of our higher institutions churn out these indoctrinated and groomed resources that have no idea what they're doing. And that has always been, folks, I hate to say it, it has always been by design. By the way, that woman's name is Theresa Newman. She lists herself now on LinkedIn as a former educator, now specializing in graphic design, content management, SEO, content writing, and digital social media marketing also teaches flute. So she's passing herself off as a current public school teacher, but she owns her own little music academy she calls the Newman Music Academy. Hey, hats off to you. You wanna be an entrepreneur, congratulations, but the fact that you think you understand how the public system of education works, maybe there's a reason you're no longer in it. Maybe, maybe we need a lot more of those teachers called out of the system, and maybe that'll happen if we can get rid of the federal bureaucracy and start putting it back in the hands of the states and then the counties for public education. Folks, I've got so much more, but I'll have to just wait 'til tomorrow. So you'll have to come back tomorrow for another episode of The Allen Sanders Show. Find me on Facebook, X, Instagram, Get Her Cheap Social. 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