JR Afternoon with Chris Renwick
JR Afternoon with Chris Renwick ~ December 3, 2024 ~ Full Show
Hey, Brian. I don't want to be the bearer of bad news, especially with this lovely music Eminem's mother is passed away Are you gonna be able to carry on today? I gotta go. Are you okay? I feel bad I'm not that hard. Do you think Eminem actually feels bad? Sure, why would name do you do you? Is there a reason he shouldn't? well, I think Eminem has uh, you don't get along with it even in his most recent album. Oh, I didn't know this Yes, well, I know she gave him the recipe for the spaghetti, so they must have been good. Yes Yes, that's true But Eminem's mother is passed Now you know as much as I know about Eminem I am speaking spaghetti. He is a famous lead He has not talked kindly of her in his music But you know you never know it's Well, when you're young when you're younger you could be very angry at your mother and father your parents and Man, no, that's why he's got to be in his 50s. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's what I'm saying Maybe he's over it now. Maybe sure no, I don't know but I thought I didn't know if you were gonna I didn't know if you heard the news or if you were gonna be upset over it I didn't want to I didn't want to start if there's a chance I can leave And yes, I don't I mean I just I was gonna offer you a tissue. I didn't know You know, I may be beyond that. I may need to be I may need to go home Fair enough. I will say Coming up at 218 something that Developed over the Thanksgiving holiday the couple days of Thanksgiving The Harris campaign actually spoke and they did an interview with the progressive podcast Pod Save America And I've got some audio for you in case you missed it and you know, it's it I would equate it to like me coming on this show and thinking about a topic and then and then absolutely wedding the bed it it's either they are completely inept which I tend to lean to or they've learned nothing and Actually, both things might be true. So we'll we'll cover it coming up at 218 a bit because it's been Living rent-free in my head for the last week or so how unbelievably unprepared or or just obtuse the campaign and head campaign officials are over this Also Donald Trump Whatever you think about him. I gotta tell you he's He's a pretty funny dude So he has met with some pretty powerful people over the last couple of days there was the infamous rumor and then and then later came out to be true that He met with Mark Zuckerberg. Mark Zuckerberg flew out to Mar-a-Lago and met with Donald Trump He also met with Justin Trudeau the prime minister of Canada Get this. Here's here's something that Donald Trump said during that meeting so Justin Trudeau talked about these tariffs that Donald Trump had proposed putting on Canada and Said that it would cripple the Canadian economy if if he were to impose those tariffs Donald Trump apparently told Justin Trudeau the leader of Canada That if these tariffs would kill the Canadian economy and that if Canada Can't survive without ripping off the United States to the tune of a hundred billion dollars a year Then maybe Canada should just become the 51st state and Trudeau should be the governor I tell you he's a funny guy. I mean that's I mean obviously he was kidding There was not any serious by any seriousness behind it But I suppose it's funny to say that to somebody like Justin Trudeau is wild That's wild stuff. Wild stuff. Um, also completely Wild is what's happening in South Korea the parliament votes to defy the president Lifting his declaration of martial law The South Korean president declared martial law Vowing to eliminate anti-state forces as there is opposition to control the country's parliament Less than three hours later the parliament voted to lift the declaration Saying that martial law was invalid and that lawmakers will protect democracy with the people Just unbelievable unbelievable stuff. Um, Donald Trump also will attend the reopening of Notre Dame in Paris. Have you seen some of these pictures of? The renovated cathedral. It's beautiful It's beautiful the shame of it all is that I mean You know, it gives off a lot of old-school vibes, but it's not right. It's all renovated It's all new so you lose a lot of the history of it. It's a hunchback gonna be the hunchback See come into the reopening Isn't he always there lurking in the in the background. Yeah Look what you did Is that what he says? What was their injury sustained by the hunchback? Oh, that's a good question This should be further explored. I feel like we should we should explore this But Donald Trump will travel to france this weekend for the reopening of the cathedral. This was five years ago that the fire Ravaged the historic landmark Um, it doesn't feel like that long ago Uh, but he said it'll be a very special day Uh, he called it an honor and the the plans will be magnificent and historic To reopen the building and he credited Emmanuel microne the french president Of doing a wonderful job ensuring that notar dant notar notar dom has been restored to its full level of glory And uh and and even more so Um, I do not believe that president biden will be there Uh, he is on a trip to africa. I believe so he he will not be in france for the reopening um meanwhile yesterday we talked a little bit about the Fallout and and and really the the subsequent fallout amongst democrats Over joe biden deciding the pardon is son. This came as no surprise to me I can't imagine if you listen to the show with any regularity that it came with any surprise to you um, but the fact that it happened is put democrats in a really tough spot and I told you yesterday that to me it The the democratic party has become everything that they load they become everything that they've hated and and talking about donald trump and and kind of poo-pooing this notion of Political warfare and being a political target and being a target of of a political opponent That they just pushed that aside saying that nobody's above the law. Well in the case of joe biden and his son apparently hunter biden is above the law and democrats Have not only been put in a tough spot because they went out and defended joe biden After saying vehemently over and over and over again that he would not pardon his son He said it multiple times karen john p air said it on behalf of the administration Multiple times biden allies came out in the in the in the senate or in the house and and vehemently Defended the notion of not pardoning hunter biden And then of course the scope of the pardon and it being over a 10-year span and covering things that may or may not have have happened um It it the optics of it all is is really really bad um CNN is reporting that a former west wing aid Anyone who was even close to the top knew that he was probably going to do this. Why did we pretend? otherwise because you know, it's not like donald trump has made any sort of effort to hide what power he will be able to wield the pardon people whether it's people who were arrested and Sentenced and convicted in january six or otherwise You know donald trump hasn't hid behind the fact that he won't or hasn't said that he won't and so That's the the wrinkle here. That's the difference And so there were people around joe biden that said it was a certainty According to reporting from cnn that he would pardon hunter biden but at the end of the day the the outward press and PR of it was that he just wouldn't do it and wasn't even considering it and at the end of the day he he did So it's putting democrats in a really bad spot. I saw gary peters senator gary peters tweet out that Uh, he disagreed with it. He didn't think the president Should have pardoned his son and it sets a very bad precedent going forward and maybe that's true again. We've seen We've seen president's pardon family members before donald trump did it with jared kushner's father Uh bill clinton did it with his brother. So it's it's not without precedent But I think from the democrats perspective and some of their talking points throughout the campaign and even post-election Is well donald trump is going to come in here and and and pardon everybody Or go after people and at the end of the day joe biden has has done the same thing and it and it puts a real damper On some of their talking points going forward. All right coming up on the other side the harris campaign has spoke I can't believe Their position on what went wrong in the campaign i'll play you some audio. We'll talk about it next here on jr afternoon So after the election You know, I gave you my feelings. I I thought it was an indictment on the party I didn't think that people resonated with what the democratic message was and and part of that is on the broader Party right a lot of that is on the the actual democratic base and things that they leaned into and the their their movement away from the middle class but Part of it. I think was the candidate and I'm not even entirely sure Seeing how the election played out. It's even necessarily Kamala harris's fault because I believe if joe biden were in Donald trump would have won obviously he beat Kamala harris. I don't I don't know that it would have mattered But here's what I do know You don't enter a pony in the kentucky derby It's not going to win You know that like right off the rip So when on pod save america progressive podcast a pretty well-known podcast When a number of harris campaign officials make an appearance right around the thanksgiving holiday and they try to dissect What happened and what went wrong without actually acknowledging what went wrong It is stunning to me. It's stunning to me because It's really a couple of things a if you Don't have the answers yet Right if you're a month out from the election Like we are now So when they did this probably three weeks out three and a half weeks out from the election And you don't have the answers Here's what I would recommend that you do Probably don't do a podcast Trying to figure out what went wrong That's that's number one and then be If you don't have those answers, not only should you not do the podcast But maybe you should continue to reflect and learn from what happened also By the sounds of it. I don't think they've learned anything yet So I want to play you so audio from the podcast and then we're going to talk about it But this is on pod save america one of the people who have who was very much involved in The the staging of the campaign in the in the building of the profile of Kamala harris was david plough And this is somebody who has been a long time Advisor to joe biden and was very much involved in his campaign And then basically they just transitioned everything over and rolled everything over into Kamala harris One of the things he talked about was leaning into gop voters We were in a challenging political environment where to get to 50 percent of the vote in enough states to win 270 electoral votes We needed some percentage of republicans, but I think what people forget is It's more the independence who act like republicans Where issues of democracy of how unhinged he is project 2025 mattered to them Even as some conservative democrats Also when you're being attacked as being a crazy out of touch california liberal When you have generals and former republican elected officials saying i'm for Kamala harris That helps rebut that in many respects That'll be more effective than what she would say herself And then as it relates to the comments about wanting generals like hitler That bothered voters This is something that Concerned them about okay. He seems like he's lost a step. He seems a little more unhinged Unstable the people who worked for him last time are warning us And now he says something like this. So yeah, we could have decided to ignore that and just say let's talk about tax cuts today I don't think that would advance the ball with the people we needed to advance it with again It can sound like making excuses this political environment sucked and instead of reflecting Because what did people care about they cared about how much money they have They cared about how much things cost That was that was the the motivating factor for voters So fine you want to say the political atmosphere sucked that's fine you can have that opinion But at the end of the day When you said that oh well these things would have these things we thought would have spoke better than what she would have said herself That was a huge Misstep in the campaign that she actually couldn't speak to things herself that she That she sidestepped over and over again It's it is unbelievable Then you've got stephanie cutter who was a campaign advisor And And when it came to Her not appearing on shows like joe rogan's podcast Where millions and millions and tens of millions of people tuned in to see donald trump And jadey vans on joe rogan's podcast and this is the explanation they gave We wanted to do it. I hate to repeat this over and over But it was a very short race with a limited number of days and for a candidate to leave the battleground to go to Houston, which is a day off the playing field in the battleground Getting that timing right is really important. We had discussions with joe rogan's team. They were great They wanted us to come on. We wanted to come on We tried to get a date to to make it work and ultimately we were just weren't able to find a date We did go to houston and she gave a great speech at a an amazing event the beyonce event I'm going to call it reproductive freedom And we were hoping to be able to fit it in around that and ultimately we're able to do it As it turns out that was the day that trump was taping his joe rogan Which they had never confirmed to us. We kind of figured that out in the lead-up All right, enough enough you don't want to leave the battleground to do a show that people in the battleground watch It is the inability To look inward and accept what went wrong and what you should have done better It is the fatal flaw of this party now It is I got more audio. I'm not done and I want to hear from you 80859 0957 80859 0w jr I'll get you more of the audio. We'll talk about an excellent jr afternoon No, no, no, no. I'm not done with the Harris campaign yet. No, no, no No, no, no because in a world where You lose an election And then when you come out to finally talk when you come out to finally break your your silence it's nonsense It's excuse after excuse after excuse and no real accountability it seems because Stephanie cutter the campaign advisor to the Harris campaign also talked about This this notion that kamala Harris would not Break from joe biden that she would not break away from where the shortcomings of this administration were and how she would do better It was highlighted on the view when she was asked, you know, would you do anything differently and she said that nothing really comes to mind And and and here's what Stephanie cutter had to say on pod save america about not breaking with photos on the the biden question We of course got that Everywhere we went and we knew what the data was we knew we had to show her as her own person And point to the future and not try to rehash the past She also felt that she was part of the administration And unless we said something like well, I would have handled the border completely differently We were never going to satisfy anybody. We were trying to tell a story And give the impression that she was different Without pointing to a specific issue trying to assess why not a specific issue is that some she was only to do You weren't even feel disingenuous. She felt like she was part of the administration So why should she look back and cherry pick some things that she would have done differently when she was part of it She had tremendous loyalty to president biden You've been on plenty of campaigns. Imagine if we said well, we would have taken this approach on the border imagine the round of stories Coming out after that of people saying well, she never said that in the meeting or what meeting and when she said this Or I remember when she did that and it wasn't going to give us what we needed because it wouldn't be a clean break It would be, you know days upon days in a limited time window that we had of dealing of who what when where So the best we could do and the most that she felt comfortable with was saying like look Vice presidents never break with their presidents the only time in recent marries when pence broke with trump after Trump stormed the capital they call that the murder exemption The president tries to murder you If you are, you know ripping up the constitution trying to overturn an election people die then you can break with your president See this is another fatal flaw in not just the campaign but the party because Last time I checked when joe biden dropped out of the race. He wasn't going to be president again which gave Kamala Harris the autonomy she had a golden ticket a golden ticket to address the shortcomings of the administration while figuring out how to plot forward because Could she have said well, this is what we did and I wouldn't have done anything differently because that's what she said But how about something like this? You know i'm the vice president I'm asked for my opinion. I'm asked for my my view or my stance and sometimes I get overridden by the president of the united states I think we could have done a couple of things differently. I would have done a couple of things differently Loyalty to joe biden joe biden is a non entity at this point joe biden is a nobody He's president of the united states, but he's not running for reelection. There's no reason to stick with him for what The people the voters were telling you that there were issues that they saw in the administration And the handling of a number of things like the border It would have been a perfect opportunity For kamala harris and her advisors to develop a plan that would have probably thrown joe biden directly under the bus But put her on a pedestal And instead they chose the opposite now look they they they Doug the whole and they couldn't find themselves a way out of it And at the end of the day all of these excuses Well, it was a difficult situation Well, it was a short campaign while kamala harris was a relative unknown I don't know if you're dealing with an unknown. Maybe you'd like to I don't know put somebody in there that people know who they are 70 percent of the country said they didn't like the trajectory we were on she had an opportunity to change that Though our internal analytics showed that we could win all seven battleground states Well, then my response to that is your internal analytics stink They are garbage Look, I'm not even really being critical here. This is just observational Oh, and then there's this which which is really shocking to me It's shocking to me that the campaign actually admitted this that after the debate the debate between joe biden and donald trump that there was no plan there was no contingency plan in place to meet the demands of what a post biden Decision on dropping out of the race would look like That I mean, it's it's really shocking So I'd love to hear from you. I think that that I don't know how you go on a podcast When you don't have any answers I don't know how you go on a podcast and and try to make sense of what happened when you Don't have the answers as to what happened or are willing to look internally or look yourself in the mirror And say we could have done x y and z better Could we not have focused so much on donald trump and focused on kamala harris and her stance and her and what she would do Going forward from a policy standpoint Now we need to do attack donald trump what Oh, oh, oh, could she gone of joe rogan, but we didn't want to leave the battle ground You didn't want to leave the battle ground physically Because donald trump reached a whole heck of a lot of people in the battle grounds on joe rogan's podcast I mean you actually You actually reach more people do in that show than what you do at a campaign event Or a rally in detroit So I don't I don't understand the rationale and there and their insistence on not backing away from it or their insistence on being so steadfast In this belief that well, it was just 107 days there was nothing else we could do Our internal analytics said things were going well, but they weren't so It is the it is the refusal To look themselves in the mirror that I I I really can't believe that they actually came out and admitted to this 8085 9 0 9 5 7 800 8 5 9 0 w jr democrat dave kicks us off this afternoon. What's up, david? Hey christ, uh, let me Back up what they're saying because I I think your interpretation Uh, maybe missing something first of all. No, she she could have easily had saw a better Answer prepared everyone knows that on the view. Okay. She for instance the border You could have said okay. We did the right thing at the beginning. We did the right thing at an interim period We should have the restrictions. Obviously it's like should have gone on Beforehand that worked so well at the end. Okay, that was a missed opportunity The fact the the economy of course you wasn't gonna say she'd do anything different It turned out wonderfully people at the low and had more money in their pocket That's why the balance sheets are better. That's why their net wealth was better. That's not what people felt david That's not what people felt. Well, there's okay Okay, you're talking. Let's examine that go through those exit polls Look at the democrats and the republicans as far as how they answer that question Do you think the policy signaled out democrats or republicans? What whether it's the 1.9 Million or what policy what economic policy favored but let look at those how they answered that so the publican poll the republican or trump polls did not Match up with reality in that regard There is the podcast looks like yeah, of course in hindsight that doesn't it trump enormously Her analytics were probably right at the point they were at the end. It kind of it is something fell apart I mean those those her analytics are no different than a national best pollsters Okay, but dave but dave but okay, so like you're a prime example As a democrat or somebody who votes democrat you don't find their their autopsy of this election troubling Uh, well, I first of all the statements they made were were true what I would add Is they should have recognized those trans all the money they put into those transgender ads Were extremely effective that pertain to what there was Uh, three person three prison fundings afterwards even though trump administration said we have to do that They didn't do any but they their policy was that they came up. Okay. You're talking about what three transgender Okay, you know how much money they put in that and and in tomah theirs had a a billion dollars Okay, they had a billion dollars and there was nothing of that billion dollars that went out to refute those ads Okay, same thing with crime They didn't they didn't address it like that's the crazy part They just want to say what was a short campaign and we had to make tough choices I don't know. Uh, Dave. I appreciate your call. I appreciate your thoughts I just they're there refusal to actually accept any blame Or to figure out really what went wrong is Wild and the fact that they actually came out and said it is is really something We'll take a break. 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It was about How the entire entire democrat party has lost Most of the country even some of their own even some of their own progressives that will never go into that direction You know, they were they're trying to put us into ridiculousness With wokeness and political correctness cancel culture transgenderism all kinds of things This is not the way the country wants to go. They don't understand it and now they will understand it Do you think they will because I don't I mean from what I heard on the podcast. It doesn't sound like they understand it You know, that's the progressive. That's the people that are hurt Life only works a certain way you can be ridiculous for a certain amount of time, you know, even walmart You know, they recently I think was a week ago. They came out and this diversity training They're canceling that because they don't see it too much of this whether it was black lives matter all lives matter These are just moments in time that are a fad that they can be brought up and we can listen and understand But they all get into this ridiculousness and mandate The constitutional rights that we all have they cannot will not Succeed with mandating anything to all the people no and that's fine and I and I understand that and I appreciate the call rod I think what's interesting is like to me in my mind when you have a strong Party, right if the democrats are strong and the republicans are strong Hopefully the cream rises to the top. Hopefully we get the best ideas we get the best policy And you compete for votes. It didn't feel like that was the case this time It feels like their plan didn't work and they're unwilling to admit to it. Take a break more next All right three o'clock hour. It is good to have you uh Some some interesting stories today General motors is selling a stake in its electric vehicle battery cell plant To lg energy solutions the plants and lancing and being sold for about a billion dollars This comes as a course The demand for electric vehicles has gone down significantly and Interestingly enough takes place before Donald trump takes over But I think and again, I I don't I don't know if I read between the tea leaves brian Maybe you maybe you have a different perspective on this GM selling a stake in their battery plant probably signifies That they are going to slow down on their production. Is that fair? I think it's probably about Not that they're not going to continue to build electric vehicles not that they're taking that away from their offerings I just think that they're I think I think the writings on the wall that people just aren't there yet and You know the the grandiose question and all it has always been well what needs to come first the infrastructure or the vehicles it's chicken or the egg and I mean for me It You need the infrastructure first You need to put these in places where people can access them the technology needs to get better And then I think people will start to ease into these cars eventually Um, but a lot of these companies setting, you know mid 30s as a deadline to offer all electric vehicles is always seemed like a really Like distant pipe dream It just never felt like that was going to be a realistic scenario and maybe it will be I mean we're we're a decade away from that And maybe things will change drastically over the next 10 8 10 years but I mean as we stand now the the the the production and the rapid development of the infrastructure Just it hasn't happened yet. It's just not there So I mean my reading between the tea leaves gm selling off stake in this battery plant Signifies that they might be kind of rolling back things a little bit. Um, also Interesting because Uh, donald trump's favorability is up From when he was sworn in in 2017 Not by a lot but the favorability for donald trump When he was uh going into his inauguration was at 51 This is according to a new rasmus and serving now up to 53 Which really when you consider Everything that has gone on. I mean brian if I would have told you eight years ago That donald trump Uh, you know get selected Uh at the end of his presidency. He's going to lose reelection He's going to go through all these court cases You know that they're going to impeach him a couple of times. Yadda. Yadda. Yadda. You know the story And then I tell you oh, but don't in 2024. He's going to win reelection and actually be more popular I mean you would have No, this was the answer. What I'm not no one thought would happen. Yes Uh, you would have said can I also have some of that? I don't know what you're drinking. But let me have your glasses. It would have been unbelievable So it's just very interesting the the the stance and view of donald trump now As opposed to when he was leaving office in 2020 or the 2021 I guess it's really very interesting um also Um Record-breaking traveled during the thanksgiving holiday. I don't think that surprises anybody Um according to triple a and tsa 80 million people traveled for the holiday 20.4 million people traveled by plane 2 million more than last year Uh lots of people and again, I would assume a lot of travel probably happens pretty close distances Maybe a couple hours in the same state whatever and this is becoming like a trend every holiday Every hour record travel since the pandemic. It's it's a pandemic, right? It's got to be the pandemic That's all I could think I mean People who are still a little uncomfortable are now becoming more comfortable with traveling. I I that's my assumption Probably, you know, yeah, probably otherwise. I don't know how you have a record every time unless they're just that many more people Which doesn't seem to be the case. No um AMC network has unveiled their uh holiday programming this year um you know And christmas vacation the polar express alph miller gramirica on 34th street the um the tv tv shield channel. Okay um Is there a favorite christmas movie for you for me? Yeah, okay. I'm going to get grief by of two Oh, no, don't don't tell me die hard. That's not a christmas movie gremlins. Not a christmas movie. Uh, lee's a weapon Lea the weapons on a christmas movie is too it opens with jingle bell rock and there's christmas do the whole movie Okay, in fact the final fight scene takes place on the lawn with a bunch of christmas ornaments All right, and then uh, this is what our lord would have won That's right. Well, of course our lord and savior and then I love uh love actually Do you I love that movie really bev Spices that movie and I love it. I watch it every christmas by myself. I I think it's great We need to have we need brian to go into a lab And we need some but we need scientists to study the brain of brian morton I would have never guessed I learned something about you every day. I think love actually is one of the greatest christmas movies Ever made well, he saw the good version not the version paulson that plane where they cut out all the nudity There's nudity in love actually a little bit. Yeah, that's not the part of the dude with the the dude from walking dead Yes, that's one of the okay love actually is like six or seven little stories built into one big movie Okay, and it's the different phases of love. It's there's a nudity in a christmas movie. Yeah, a lot of that shock It's very tasteful chris. Well, yeah, sure. Yeah, I imagine that I had no idea. Oh, I don't think I've ever seen it If you've never seen it, you gotta watch it. It is wonderful great cast to the lemneson stuff with his stepson is brilliant and And i'm going to say this. I don't know i'm going to be Immursively brutalized after the show off the air The the stuff with lemneson and his stepson will make me tear up every time I see it. It is beautiful It's good music in it too. Got a good soundtrack. I'm glad I know that now. I didn't know that I'm going to get you a love actually poster for christmas Uh, richard. Do you have a favorite christmas movie? Scrooge with bill Murray. I love it. That's a good movie too. It's a solid movie Yes, solid movie. I always tend to lean towards uh Santa Claus with tim allen. Yeah, that's Danielle's favorite. Yep. Oh or christmas vacation. Oh, yeah It's just I love that one too. Just just an absolute classic an absolute classic Between a squirrel and randy quaid. How can you go on christmas vacation? You just you just can't You just can't do it um um Coming up at 318 We're going to take you I want to continue on the calls about the kamala Harris campaign coming out talking about What happened kind of their post mortem of of everything that went on in their losing campaign and and really their defiance in in Trying to admit any blame or any sort of faults or where they went wrong We'll continue with your calls on that because it's been very hot But I also have a question about joe bite Because i'm at the point now and I i've kind of waited on this just to see how things have played out I i'm under the assumption that the pardoning of his son is probably going to be the last major thing that he does And with any president as somebody who I mean I love presidential history I love presidents as characters, especially you go back to the founding fathers and and the whole stories of these people fascinating And everything about presidents always boils down to legacy Is what is the legacy of these presidents and some of these answers some of the answers to that that question Probably we won't know for another 10 15 years Because time for presidents is usually either a good thing or a bad thing But as time has gone on, I think people's perception and opinions of the job that these people have done But I have a question about joe biden's legacy and how he will be remembered We'll do that coming up at 318 here on jr afternoon All right, we'll get back to your calls momentarily on on what the Harris campaign had to say on pod save america And and i'll recap it for you in a moment, but I do have an interesting question about joe bide Because legacy always comes into this legacy always comes into at the end of a presidency at the end of a term at the end of a a run That what what did they leave behind and and and how will they be viewed? Not only when they leave office, but then he hears down the road Or 20 years down the road 30 40 50 years down the road Because I think time changes the way people remember and the perspectives that they have on on our leaders You know, like for example, I think now George w bush is probably viewed a little differently now than he was when he left office Um or maybe even bill clinton view differently now than when he left office and and I think the the standard here Is what did you do? Compared to what you maybe didn't do or what you promised to do and didn't get done So when I look at joe biden You know, he got the chips acting out the infrastructure bill done um But the border continued to be an issue. He also dealt with covid. He also had um, you know issues now with with hunter and these questions about him and and all these things and to me to me joe biden's legacy Is probably tarnished here a little bit with the hunter biden parten. It probably is But this is somebody who has spent his entire life in public office This is somebody who has been a senator forever was vice president then president and my view of joe biden amongst everything that has gone on is like eh Like he's just another guy He's just another president kind of a career politician that went through the system got to the mountaintop and I don't know if there was anything done that is going to be you know, radically different or changed because of the policies that he put in place I just think he's just another just another long standing politician That that went through the ranks Is that fair is that fair brine? Is that is that kind of your read on it? Yeah, I think so sure he's just the guy that Moved up one part one the president and that was it. He's kind of a forgettable president in my mind I mean You know trump is not forgettable Trump is a different a different Yeah, it'll be a compare with the rest of them are politicians and you but like you know, bill clinton had a thing Right bill clinton was this incredibly engaging Guy who could remember your name from 30 years ago and he met you once He was just this really engaging guy He always felt to me and this is I never met him never he always felt to me when you saw him He was like a televangelist. He had the charisma that came out of the screen. Yes. Yeah, he was like a televangel I mean george bush and again, I'm just I'm not gonna go through all those bush seems like that guy You want to have a beer with yeah george bush is like the guy that's like come on down to my range We're gonna have a beer and wrestle some cattle like you're like all right. I could do that. That sounds fun. Yeah um Obama is obama. I mean obama is an eloquent speaker like a professor to me. He's like a teacher. He's just uh suave right composed Guy and then you know then there's the history he's the first black president like there's a lot of memory there Yeah, that aside You're right. He's like personally. He's like he's like a guy you would want to I would want to sit down and talk to him I'm not sure he would order a beer. He doesn't seem like That much probably he's like here. He's like your college professor He's gonna you there's a distance there And then and then you get to joe biden and I just feel like he's when you stack him up against all of these other people recently the president's again. I'm just gonna go from clinton up. I don't whatever. Yeah He is the least charismatic. He is the least engaging I don't I mean all of these things of the bills that he passed I don't really know how much impact they have and they're just he's just there Come on, man. Sorry That's my joe biden impersonation come on between you guys I just he's just I think you he will be judged more by his length of service Being a congressman and yeah overall not as a president So you think it's more of I think it's more of his His yes his years and years of service to the good word totality. Thank you. There you are intellectually romancing. Yes. Yep That's what I do what I'm here for Uh, is it is that a fair? Depiction do you think rich of joe biden? Yeah, I would agree with that. It's just the guy that's there I he's not memorable. He hasn't done anything. That's that's incredibly memorable. Yeah, he's like Jimmy Carter He was there and he was sort of a filler president you sort of felt like between two presidents right and History ill judgment in its own way one way or the other and he sandwiched between hunter or any sandwich between Donald Trump Now would you consider Gerald Ford kind of like that? Yes Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean Gerald. I mean Gerald Ford obviously took office after Nixon, right Um, but Gerald Ford was I mean, you know, I mean obviously played football. He was a you know He has more distinction a leader as a president. But as a president. I mean he was just Yeah, I see I kind of see him as like a fill-in guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well because and he knew and look I mean Because I do was I retired or resigned but Ford knew that as soon as he part in Nixon that he wasn't gonna Oh his chances are real actually. Yeah, it was over. So I mean he I mean, it was the right thing to do. It was the right thing to do. Yeah, and I think that that's where I always go to Ford Right. That's where how you judge a president. Correct. You don't do what's easy and what's going to be nice You can like the right thing to think you sacrificed your political future for the betterment of the country Yes, like that is noble That's a president and whether or not you think that that's right or not Right from a voters perspective right from an American perspective. Like he thought that was right It was principled ethic. It was right in hindsight and and it was to the detriment of his political field Yeah, I think history has shown that that's right. Correct. Yeah. So I just I'm curious to know what your perspective is on Joe Biden Because I I don't think he will be remembered from much of anything And and I'm not it's not a shot. It's not anything like that. I just I'm not really sure How he's memorable. I'm not really sure what he's done To dramatically change things. I don't even think people will really remember that like covid ended under him Right like because donald trump started the whole thing and you know A lot of the focus was on the beginning. Well, and there was focus was on the end so much crazy at the beginning So much uncertainty at the beginning. Yes, that's more memorable than he added to his it had calmed down people were sort of understanding What this was correct. So you're right. I think I think he's a president. You have to wait for history to judge Yeah, and I don't we'll never be able to jump and I'm not really entirely sure what that means No, like I think you're comp to To uh carter is probably pretty accurate. Yeah, like I you know jimmy carter is a pretty forgettable guy You know, he did the thing with the gas Which was right like wild for people yes and that and that's kind of a thing that I think sticks with carter But carters again remembered more for what he did after he left office. Yes. I I've heard more people all the humanitarian What was he why when carter was president named always said not a great president But a brilliant brilliant man and a brilliant states and afterwards. Yes, that's where people right people I like when I think of jimmy carter. It's like I don't even think of the gas thing. I think of jimmy carter Well, you think you man a terry gimmy carter the first presidency you think around with reagan Well, right. That's that's correct. All jimmy carter really did was make sure ronald right. Yeah president So I'd love to hear from you. I want to get your thoughts on this It's just something I've been I've been muddling around with because I think the hunter biden thing is going to play into his legacy I think the the issues surrounding the family probably play into his legacy But how will joe biden be remembered? I mean, we're you know a little over a month away now from the inauguration And I don't think really much of anything sticks out But I think there are some things that stick out In a in a detrimental way to joe biden and I'd love to hear from him 800 859 0 957 808 590 w jr Also on the table The harris campaign speaking on the podcast. We'll get to what they had to say coming up on jr afternoon All right couple of things on the table for you I my question is what do you what do how do you view joe biden's legacy as we near an auguration day on january 20th How do you view his legacy and and maybe what do you view his legacy or what do you think his legacy will be down the road? Because I think things have changed for guys like george w bush I think people look at him differently now than they then when he left office and and I think time Time changes the way people look at presidents So what is joe biden's legacy now and what what will it be in the future do you believe? I don't I don't know that He's got much of a favorable view. I think he's you know brian Compton to jimmy carter, which is probably pretty accurate I you know he's a long-time politician senator for a very long time was vice president became president I don't really know what he's going to be remembered for. I think probably the hunter biden pardon hurts his legacy I think things like the afghanistan withdrawal and the way it happened hurts his legacy I think what happened at the southern border hurts his legacy. I think inflation probably hurts his legacy You know, I think there's a lot of things against him, but he passed the chips act He passed the infrastructure bill like there are a couple things he did. I don't know if those let that that legislation trumps no pun intended what the other things around him are so i'm curious what you think of that also The Harris campaign came out. They spoke to pod save america around thanksgiving and they it was just refusal to accept any Anything that went wrong with the campaign. It was a lot of deflection. It was a lot of yeah, buts Like yeah, it was a difficult situation. Yeah, it was a short campaign Oh, the candidate was was was an unknown. So we had the definer You know 70% of the country said that we were going into the wrong direction. So we were selling the future Instead of saying like yeah, we did some things wrong or we did lose touch with A majority of the american people of the american voting electorate And we didn't do a good job and we we didn't do enough to reach them or to Talk about the issues that really mattered to them You know, they they they said that there was no contingency plan after the biden trump debate That they just didn't know what was going to happen. It was all in limbo That the their internal in analytics showed something completely different than what happened like instead of really assessing what went wrong They make excuses and and pass along the blame It's really remarkable Really remarkable And I think that when Your post mortem when you're post-election and you're trying to autopsy the the election and what happened and what went wrong and what you could have done better And and when you come out with where shoulder shrugs, it's like what? How could that possibly be and I am of the belief and this is where The the frustration for somebody like me is If you're putting your best candidate forward and they're putting their best candidate forward Hopefully we get to a situation where the cream rises to the top Good ideas make their way to the forefront and we have the the best Leaders that we can possibly get and when The campaign comes out and talks the way that they do. I don't feel like the democrats offered that I don't feel like they put their best foot forward and so Who that does that eventually hurt it's it's us It's you. It's the it's the it's the it's the country So that's there for you too. I'd love to get your thoughts eight hundred eight five nine zero nine five seven Let's go. It's Keith and fenton. What's up? Keith? Hi, chris. Hey. Thank you for taking my call. Of course I happened to turn wtr on a little bit earlier and it was about the time you were talking about m&m and I I thought it was very distasteful. I I've never been m&m big fan or anything like that I know nothing about his mother But according to what you said, she uh recently passed away She did and you heard laughing and making jokes About m&m and about a woman dying. I think that was very distasteful and again. I I'm not a m&m and and and I kind of know the reason you were doing that because of m&m and the democratic party And wtr is always uh, you know touting the convicted felon trump holding him up is a big Big ideal I'm the i'm the situation about Kamala and uh You got all the answers. I can't wait to hear what you say about Kamala Well, okay, that's good You I can tell by having to sit near for an hour and wait and listen to you that you don't have all the answers Okay, but anyhow Kamala when uh, she was being loyal to uh, biden a man whom she had worked with for Four years and I think that her answer there while A lot of people took it as something terrible Uh, it's so much fell in the blanks for mckyth. What answer are you talking about? I I'm so well when they asked her what uh, she would have done you mean on the view on the view during the administration Okay, and but but is that better or worse than Spending four years with a vice president who won't even vote for you that knows you So well that he couldn't even support you after working with you for four years and knowing what you're like and that's what Uh, pence Did and the comments that he made? Let me let me ask you this Keith. Let me ask you this. Yeah, let me ask you this Do would you would you say that politics is a pretty loyal? Career path would you say that that loyalty is a is a is a attribute of being a politician? I I think with some people it is. I think with I think with people like trump he can hire The trump thing is irrelevant here. I mean put trump aside We're not talking about trump because if loyalty is uh, a key part of being a politician Then I understand why Kamala Harris would say nope I can't think of any way that I would do anything different but in in reality But in reality, I mean an ideal in reality in reality Joe Biden wasn't going to be president again He dropped out of the race. Kamala Harris was running and I think she had an opportunity to say look I I would have done some things differently. I'm not the president. I'm not the one making the decisions I'm asked my opinion on things But at the end of the day, he has the one that has to go out and sign his name I would have done things a little differently wouldn't wouldn't that have helped her? And the fact is that she had worked Closely with the administration he had input during the four years if he was vice president And some of the things that she would have wanted probably, uh, did not not help And maybe and kath i appreciate the call. I gotta i gotta move on, but thank you Yeah, thank you appreciate that. Let's go to mark in almont. What's up mark? Doing uh, thank you for taking my call sris. Um, you know, I it might have been you just said, you know We're not buying what you're selling. I just kind of resonating with me. That's stuck But if you look at the democratic party, they're walking talking contradiction for instance You can have a 17 year old and go out and kill as many people in as heinous act as possible Which you can't and find him guilty, but you can't automatically just send him to life in prison But you can maybe rip a baby out of a womb and the third trimester So those two don't go together. Number one. Number two is they throw around this word inclusion But they really don't know what it means if they're having an inclusion meeting or de i meeting i guarantee you walking there with a trump hat You're not going to be included. You're going to be excluded. So there was another walking talking disaster now How about if i'm a democrat before the election i'm mad I don't want to hear a sinner. I never voted for her. I never put her in that position I didn't vote for for a democratic nomination for president You don't vote for the vice president in a presidential election. So these democrats said they're looking Why do I have to vote for Harris? I never got a choice. Who I really wanted in there They kind of slipped there in there real quick and then my last point is when you have civil liberties like Sharon stone And Alex Baldwin saying that americans are misinformed and uninformed about politics They don't know I think he was talking about the democrats because I think why trump won Is because people dissected the issues they looked at the issues They researched the issues and they said this is what reality is We're not buying what you're selling and for the democratic party to come out and say it was this bad real They've got to realize that this was a middle america that stood up and said we're done with it Yeah, we don't do that. We don't do the reason. Yeah, it's just amazing. No That's all election ever. Yeah, and I think I think they're refusal at least from a campaign perspective I'm separating the campaign from the party, but from the campaign's perspective They're yeah refusal to really admit where the shortcomings were it only hurts all of us I mean in the end of the day When you don't have a strong candidate or you don't have a strong party and you don't have Ideas swirling about that people really get to choose from I think that that hurts It hurts us. It hurts us as a country and then people have to make the decision that they do But yeah, I'm I'm I'm with you on some of that I just I feel like Their refusal to admit where they went wrong is uh is really troubling. Thank you mark. Appreciate you We'll get some more of your calls your texts coming up. Also take a look at sports. Steve Courtney can brown join me Here on jr afternoon All right. I want to get to a couple more calls. We'll bring in steve court and it's gonna mark in lavonia. What's up mark? Yeah, I just wanted to quickly defend jr on it caller from two times ago Um, you know we listened to uh super recido and democrat dave and himself There are democrats that call the show and you let them voice their opinion a lot longer than you do the conservatives by the way Anyway, I just wanted to say The democrat party has changed so radically that the conservative democrats don't call the show anymore Because it's hard to defend what the democrat party stands for today. That's why you have tall together Joamance Yeah, all of them. They you know they they don't you know the democrat party today can't define what a woman is for crying out loud And look at and as far as the legacy of joe biden It's going to be he started the the economy the two wars Afghanistan and the border And now those are the same things that happened with car with carter. It was the economy and member of the hostages for Day and and reagan got him up and the the minute he was in there and the same thing's gonna happen now With trump getting them out of there. He's closed trumps close the border. He's not even president yet And he used to do it He met with the president of mexico. She says yeah, we're gonna stop people coming up to the border Yeah, no black market went up 2,000 points. I know three weeks. I know okay. He's not even in yet I know so that's so there so there uh, so that's why i was defending jr That mark we live in a great country. Don't we people can have whatever opinions they want. They can listen. They can turn me off Uh, I wish uh, uh, uh, I wish them well, but but thank you mark. That's very nice. Yeah, uh quickly out to frank and saint clear shore. So low frank Hey crest how are you good man? It's good. Hey, I think uh Biden is going to be remembered by a lot of things It's going to be remembered for letting hooten Invade ukraine. He's going to be remembered as you mentioned Our exit from Pakistan is leaving millions of dollars of our military equipment behind And tender of our 11 soldiers being killed 13 he's going to be Yeah, 13. Thank you. It's going to be remembered for opening up the borders and undoing just about everything president trump did In his first two days of office Uh, you know, it's going to be remembered for an economy that that just you know stinks for so many people, you know groceries that are You know, barely affordable going from two dollar gas and four dollar gas So I I think he'll actually, you know, go down and be in one of the worst presidents we've ever had Yeah, uh, all right frank. I appreciate you. Thank you for the call Um, all right. Let's uh get to steve courty because the lions have an important game Divisional match up against the packers in just two days Yeah, they're playing thursday night football and it's a really really important game as you know You know, teams like the eagles are surging and having that number one seed in the nfc north going into the ploughs Would be pretty important to this team who's already banged up and dealing with a bunch of injury steve Uh, what what are we what are we dealing with we got any good news lately? Well, uh, we'll go over it there chris. Uh, good afternoon to you. Hello again everyone Uh, this conversation brought you by the hardworking men and women at bill brownford You know my good friend matt garko and of course his team. They're doing great things for you each and every day Drive with the champions at bill brownford shop their true view inventory At bill brownford.com Today. Yeah, your lions a franchise best 11 and 1 they've won 10 in a row for crying out loud Uh, like you say chris they will host the green bay packers. They're nine and three eight 15 thursday night Uh, let's talk about one of the recent additions We haven't had a chance to discuss it yet lions bring a board safety jamal adam's three time pro bowl or 2019 all pro first teamer. Uh, they put him on the practice squad and there is an understanding Uh, that we he will be elevated to the roster Uh, now he last made the pro bowl back in 2020 That was his first season with the seattle seahawks after three years with the team that drafted him That would be the new york jets. He's only 29 years of age Obviously, uh, he's saying this is a dream come true to join a first-class organization like the lions And he can say that right now because they're 11 and 1 Uh, now he played in just 10 games over the last two seasons with the seahawks He was released in march Then he caught on with the tennessee titans in july But has played just three games with 20 defensive snaps this season. He requested his release Obviously that was granted in mid-actober. What does jamal adam's being a part of the lions do for you fellas Well, uh, it's another body which is which is a positive Uh, I I wonder what kind of role he's gonna play Because you know, you you've you've got brian branch. You've got kirby joseph kind of the the new age Uh safeties in this league and um, you know, I wonder what kind of role he's gonna play. I guess at the end of the day Well, and it's kind of Fascinating because the linebacker room is the one that is missing Uh, so many bodies. They did bring aboard the veteran linebacker quan alexander off the broncos practice squad Uh, it's been in three games this year two starts Uh for the broncos, maybe the good news you could be looking for Uh, in that linebacker room. Jalen rives may have been always been a fan of the way he plays Uh, he's heard his shoulder Uh, he was put on ir but he is due back this month and I will say Uh, one of the patchwork linebackers they brought in david long Uh, had 12 snaps in that thanksgiving day win over the bears meanwhile Uh, as of yesterday the practice report taylor decker once again christmas practice Uh, have yet to get the updated practice report from today Uh, but he's been dealing with a knee Uh, in the two previous games that taylor decker could not go at that left tackle position Dan campbell, uh opted to go With uh, danny skipper danny skipper, mr versatility So you take a look at the uh lion's Injury situation and it is a little bit Stressful at this time and is this a byproduct of the lions having a by week in week five Are they paying for that right now? We don't have time to go through everything they're dealing with But it's substantial on the defensive side of the ball It is substantial and it's going to put more pressure on this offense to put a bunch of points up on the board Especially this week because green bay good defense and they can score points too. So Yeah, I think uh, you know, I I think it's weathering the storm until you get some of these guys back Hopefully you make it Uh, to the end of the season in in a good enough spot to claim that number one scene get yourself that by and Homefield advantage throughout the plav something to watch stevie. Thank you my friend. Appreciate you All right, chris see tomorrow my friend looking forward to it. Yep, we'll talk All right. Meanwhile, it's gonna do it for me mitch album and the crew coming your way next right here on w chair See tomorrow same time same place. I'm going
December 3, 2024 ~ JR Afternoon with Chris Renwick On this episode: Chris takes your calls and talks about the issues of the day.