- Okay, okay, I need my yelly voice. - Ah, recording voice, activated. - All right, Steve, can we please have a one word holiday themed prompt? - Red. - Yeah, that's all I got, are you waiting for some hours? - That works, here we go, three, two, one. (upbeat music) - Oh, I mean, just look at, for the listeners, if you had the video feed, I got my red mic cover, I'm wearing a red shirt, I got my red lights going on in the background. - Oh, yeah, there's something I call me the red one, you know? - I think it's good, I think it's good. - That's me now, I'm the red one. - Hold on one second, hey, welcome to the Overtacking Podcast with your host, Ken and CJ, I say hi CJ, or red one. - Oh, come on. - Whoa, there it is. - Worth it. - Yes, absolutely. - All right, look, it's December, it's the holidays, and we're kicking off once again. - The War on Christmas. - The War on Christmas. (explosion) (screaming) (laughing) - That's right, it's the War on Christmas, and we're talking about non-classic Christmas movies or holiday movies all month of December long, except for maybe the last one, I can't remember if that lines up with New Year's or not, but most of the month, we're talking about extra, extra holiday movies that you may or may not normally watch during the holidays. - You definitely haven't normally watched this one because it's brand spanking new. - Brand spanking new, still maybe in theaters at this point, we watched the red one, 2024. - Starring, Dwayne "The Elf" Johnson. - That's right, and the human torch. - Chris Evans. - Yes, and literally everyone else for some reason. There's a ton of people in this, I don't know why. - Well, 'cause that's how you sell a movie now. - You gotta put famous people in it. - I have serious thoughts about this movie, but we gotta save it for a little bit, because I think we gotta bring on our guest. See, who do we got this week? - You know him as the toolman. It's Steve. - Hey, old toolman's back. It's been a while, boys. - Yeah, I'm excited that you're branching out and watching some new non-fast and furious movies. Well, hold on. Well, it's technically in the continuity. - Is this in the universe? - I mean, his name is Calum Drift. This is absolutely in the fast and furious universe. - He's absolutely right, you're right. - And it's Hobbes, it is Hobbes. - Yeah, he's, I think he said he's like over 700 years old, so this is like way, way in the continuity feature. Is that right? - Is it prequel, yeah. - Yeah, it's prequel. - What? Wait, that's the opposite of what I said. - Well, it doesn't make sense when you think about it too hard. I think you just have to go with it. - Yeah, that's how the fast and furious universe works. We put out a bunch of movies and then a prequel somehow, but then these are in the past. - And then this will get retconned into the future at some point. - Yeah, okay, yeah, there we go, okay. - But they have smartphones, so that means it's set, well, maybe even before Tokyo, you had drift. - Maybe before Calum Drift. - Maybe, yeah, it could be before Tokyo, you had drift. - In my mind, this is a prequel, 'cause this is his character in this movie retires, and then he teams up, he becomes a copy, he teams up with all the gang. The best beer he has takes place after this. - Like 700 years old in the rest of the Fast and Furious movies. - No one ever specifically says his age. - They never revealed his age. - Yeah, you're right, you're right. - It's all canon. - Okay, yeah. - He wanted to become a daddy. He wanted to say daddy's got to go to work. Those are all his goals after helping Santa Claus for 700 years. - He wanted to say woman, woman, we got to save Christmas. - He never said that to Mrs. Claus, though. - No, no, he picked up on that habit lately, I think. - That's the opportunity. - Yeah. - Well, Steve, do you have any holiday traditions that we should talk about before we get to the movie? - Mostly just chugging eggnog. - Yeah, you were talking about that before. - Yeah. - Is that a big drink for you? - Yeah, I'm all about the real heavy cream kind of base drinks. So just whole milk is not thick enough for dairy-based beverages, I think. - That's not enough to clog the arteries, right? - Yeah, and it's hard because when I were I would drink eggnog in like the springtime, people would give me weird looks. - Huh. - Well, yeah it is. - Now I can do it, I can do it out in public out of my water bottle and I'll look fine. My clear water bottle that I have in the gym. - Great, great. - There's something about putting it in a water bottle that I find even more disgusting. - Yeah, it's got one of those with a little straws at the end, so it's hard to drink too. - Great. - It's like extra warm and like almost a little chunky, right? - Yeah, yeah. - But everyone else is drinking like air protein powders and stuff, so it's equally chunky. Maybe not equally, but still chunky. - All right, and also I'm just checking my notes here. It does say here that you might be a little lactose intolerant as well. - I don't know. - Oh yes, and I very frequently forget to carry my lactate pills with me. - So it's just a really fun time when you're drinking that eggnog. - It's a very normalized holiday experience for me to chug thick eggnog and then have to go right to the bathroom. I think it's a weird experience. If I don't have to go to the bathroom afterwards, 'cause that's still-- - Which is clear to you right now. It comes right out, so then you got room for all the holiday spirit. - Exactly, more not. - It's like a juice cleanse. - Yeah, seems are you a nogger? - No, I hate that you call it that. Yeah, that was a mistake immediately. - No. - Yeah, let's pull back a little bit. - Yeah, let's put that up. - Steve, good news is though, as we're recording this, we currently have some eggnog in our fridge and you can get lactose-free eggnog. It does exist. Is Emily a person who drinks eggnog? - Yes, okay. - She's classic into nog, I do it. And also lactose intolerant. - Yep. - Sorry to drop that knowledge on here if that was meant to be kept secret. - Yeah, HIPAA violation. - She gives me the lactate pills on the side and I need them. - That's right. We keep a box in our car, so we always have it on the go. - Oh wow, nice. Does she just plow right through and like yeah, just lactate pills whenever she wants to eat, whatever, or does she like go out of her way to get non-lactose stuff? - It depends. If we're going out for a restaurant, yeah, just bringing lactate still gonna get pizza. To pull the curtain back, Steve, Emily, and I actually went and got pizza before watching this movie together. - Oh wow. - Had a fun night out. - So yeah, they're just both popping lactate. - We lost the lactate, and we were totally fine. - Yep, both had a nog before. - No, no, I very much didn't have a nog before this movie 'cause I wanted to spare everyone I was around. - I need to be alone. - You have to make it through the movie, right? Otherwise you would have missed it. - Boy was I thinking about eggnog the whole time. Any holiday movie, I just think about nog. - Well as the person who sat next to you, I appreciate that. Thank you for your sacrifice. - I've made mistakes in the past, but I've learned from them. - I've learned from them, yeah. - All right, well, I learned from maybe a mistake of watching this movie, we'll talk about it, and more coming up on The Overtalking Podcast. - Last night, Red One, also known as St. Nicholas of Myra, was abducted. You're the best tracker in the world. You're gonna help us find him. - I work alone, you used to. - We have 24 hours to Christmas. - We need to find him. Let's save Christmas. Say it, I'm not gonna say that. - And we're back on The Overtalking Podcast. Oh, 'cause it's the war on Christmas. The war on Christmas. - St. Nicholas got his fingers ready on the button every time. Steve, we're gonna put 30 seconds on the clock for you to describe for someone who's not yet seen the Red One without spoilers, 'cause it's still in theaters. What it's all about? - The trailer spoils everything of this movie. I'm watching it today, ready to go. - Dude, I knew nothing going into it at all. Like I sat in my seat and I'm like, - I got shot at the rins and stuff. - I said go. - This is eating into my time. Not that I'm good at this anyway. Okay, so the rock and Captain America end up being-- - 15 seconds left. - Teammates to save J. Jonah Jameson, who's Santa Claus. - That's like it. - Who's captured by a witch who's the new Sabrina, the teenage witch, I think. - Three, two, no one. - That's pretty much it. It's time. - Oh, no, it's the reality. - Yeah. - I think I nailed that. - Yeah, that's right. - Yep. - That was not bad. - Yeah. - Yeah. - It could have been better though. - It could have been better. - Were you drifting off a little bit when you were watching the movie? - Yeah, I feel like I could have used something to keep me awake or more focused. - Well, you maybe tried some magic, mind. - The mental performance shot that you and I have been taken. - That's the one, yeah. We love it, we've talked about it. And I actually tried something new this time. - What? - I usually drink it in the morning, but I challenged myself to maybe try it at a different time of day 'cause you don't need to drink just in the morning. So we saw this a little later in the day on Saturday and I took it in the afternoon and it helped me stay fully alert and aware and it helped me stay tuned in to the movie. - Can you bad boy you? - I know, I know. But hey, it worked out great. What do you love about Patrick Pineseed? - The same thing, I talked about it last time that it helps me stay alert for these three hour movies I decide to watch for some reason. I haven't watched part two of Rebel Moon yet, I don't think I will, but if I do, I'm definitely going to take some magic mind beforehand because it is also a long one. - Yeah, I have not watched part one yet, but I also will be taking that later in the day for that as well. And look, magic mind actually has a Black Friday offer that's still going on. It's currently 50% off until the 6th of December, only with our link and that's magicmind.com/overtalkingpodbf for Black Friday, that's O-V-E-R-T-A-L-K-I-N-G-P-O-D-B-F and use that code at checkout. - Get magic mind at 50% off with the Black Friday offer. - This is the biggest deal I think on a magic mind that we've had on this show, so hop on it guys. I think there's only a couple of days left, so be sure to get your magic mind while you can with our code over talking pod PF. - And become our over talking pod boyfriend. - That's what it stands for, yeah. All right, we gotta get to the movie some more. So I, like I was saying, I didn't know anything about this at all. I know CJ was like, I formally request we do this movie and I was like, okay. And then I didn't realize that it was in theaters currently and I'm like, oh no, what did I agree to? And then I decided not to look into it at all until I was sitting down in the movie theater. - Nice. - I knew the rock was in it 'cause I saw the poster at least, but that was it. - You have to rock and Jack to JK Simmons, which I think is what JK stands for. - That's right, Jack to K Simmons. - Jack to K Simmons, that's right. Wow, I have a lot of thoughts about this movie. Again, I had no expectations and they were still somehow not met but were also exceeded and... - Yeah. - Can we just talk about like the movie theater going to experience for a little bit? - Oh fuck, mine was awful. - How was it? - I definitely wanna hear that. I like going to movies. I think that is a fun use of my time. I like making myself sick on popcorn, but this experience, movie tickets alone, it was $21 to buy a movie ticket. Then Emily and I are gonna split a large popcorn about a water, another $20. - Mm-hmm. - And then you pay for parking. The whole thing is like no one's going to see movies anymore. Oh, the industry is dying. It's like maybe 'cause it's like $50 to go see a movie. - Look, I think if the new administration has run on anything is that they're gonna bring down the price of movies and we're not even going there. Look, yeah, I had the same experience. Yeah, $20 for the movie. And then I went to go get a candy, a peanut M&M's, a small popcorn and a small drink. Total, probably like $35, ridiculous. - Insane. - Yeah. - Steve, you got a large Pepsi slushie, was that right? Or an icy? - Ooh. - Yeah, it was probably a lot. I don't even look at the prices anymore. I don't wanna be sad. - No, yeah. - Just look at the credit card statement later and then get sad. - Yeah. How was your in theater experience? - Our theater was crowded, which I was surprised by, but we did the one where it's the recliner seats. So sign seats and recliner seats, so that was nice. But then a mixed bag of like in front of us was an elderly couple, but next to them was like a family with young kids. And then there's us who are just like here to laugh at the movie, but it's a very, I think that exactly represents like, no one knows who this movie is for. - Yes. - And that was something where when I sat down and saw all those kids, I was like, what is this about to be? - Yeah. - 'Cause I only watched like five seconds of a trailer of The Rock fighting some like mythical creature. And I was like, oh, this is gonna be like a buddy, like a Hobbs and Shaw ask with Chris Evans instead of-- - Jesus, Nathan. - Oh, hold on. - Maybe not that violent. - Before we get to into the movie, I gotta fear how our movie viewing experience was. - Oh yeah. - 'Cause it was, it was pretty bad. - Yeah. - We also have recliner seats, which was fine, although ours were like a little broken. We hadn't been to this theater before, it was at an undisclosed location. And that was fine, but then as we're going, they're, I don't know, I'm super anal about movie theater etiquette. And so everyone's got their phone out on full fucking brightness, like watching videos. How do you even watch videos when the movie's going on? And then like three seats down, there's like a family and they're all either have full blown COVID or I don't know what, but they are all hacking up a long, full, not covering their mouths. Flemmy, loud coughs, all of them, the whole movie. It was disgusting. And yeah, really crossing our fingers, we didn't catch something awful then, but-- - I mean, it's like, why would you wanna go to a movie at that point? - Yeah, right. - Like if I'm coughing that much and I'm sick, it's not even just for everyone else, but just for you. Yeah, go lay on the couch. - Is that fun? - Yeah. - Right. Don't spend $200 to take your family to a movie. - Right, maybe now is not the best time. Maybe they really were looking forward to the red one though. - I mean, who wasn't? - Yeah, I know I was. - Yeah. And sorry, there are people watching videos, not like during the trailers, like while the movie was playing? - That's correct. - Yes. - Yeah, I didn't hear any sound at least, so that's fine, but like yeah, they-- - Very distracting. - Full on scrolling, looking at videos. - That is so bizarre. - Yeah, yeah. - I can't say I've ever seen that in a movie theater and I've been to a lot of movies. - Yeah. - I don't think I've seen watching videos before. I usually see like texting, but never like, not even like full brightness usually though. - Hey, were they Gen Z though? They got us disconnected. - Yeah, I think they were. - Okay. - Yeah, no, I get it. It's hard to sit still and watch one thing. They probably just need like, you know, those like TikTok videos or half of it, something in the bottom half is like, some game. That's what they need. - Yeah, right. - So this makes sense. - Yeah, the extra stimulation to get through it, yeah. - No, I get it. I'm on their side now. - Yeah. - Maybe that's how they'll get people back to the theaters. They'll install secondary screens where they're just like playing a Twitch stream in the bottom corner while the movie's going on. - They repurpose the closed caps and little boxes that you can get. - Just a side scroller. - Yeah. - That's perfect actually. - Yeah. - Also, Steve, I don't know if you noticed this. To me, it felt also that like, the screen was like smudged. I swear I could see the like colored pixels. - Oh, I don't think I noticed. - Wow. - Yeah. I can't remember ever noticing that in recent memory. And it was just like, why can I see them so prominently? This seems weird. Some digital thing or? - Huh, I'm not even sure quite what you're describing, but that's interesting. - Yeah, it reminded me of like an old like CRT monitor where you could start seeing like, the color of the picture in like the squares, like the red, green, blue parts. - Oh yeah. - No, I didn't notice. - Huh. - Which is good. - Weird. - If I noticed, I would have been fixated on it. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Then I probably would have had to take my phone out and play some games. - Yeah, there. - Yeah. - To strike itself a little bit from it. - Should we talk about what we didn't like or what we liked? I've got both. - I've got both what we liked because for me, there might be a little bit more for, maybe not what I didn't like, but what I just don't know how to process. - Yeah. - I liked Krampus. - Yes. - I thought Krampus, the Krampus sequences were maybe the strongest in the whole movie for me at least. - The scene where he's like describing, the rock is describing to Chris Evans, like about Santa's brother. I like whispered to Emily like Krampus, and then the rock said it as soon as I said it. - Yes. - I was very excited for Krampus. - I don't know if like a lot of it was CGI, but I feel like a lot of it was practical effects for the makeup at least. - It looked good. - And like Krampus's, I feel like at least like the face makeup stuff was like actually makeup, and it looked really good, at least as far as I could tell, so. - Yeah, that was fun. - Honestly, yeah. That was one of the main highlights of the movie. I think, and that's the clip. I saw some clip of that whole Krampus scene as my only exposure to this movie. So I thought it was gonna be a lot of that action going on. - Nope. - So the downsides are things that weren't the Krampus part. (laughing) - So like 80% of the movie is the town town. - There's some bright spots here and there, but yeah, the Krampus part, and then JK Simmons just leaping over houses, slithering through chimneys and everything at the end, delivering all the presents. - Pulling to die hard, like climbing through event. - I was on board for that. - Yeah. - But to the opposite of that, the moment, earlier on in the movie, when the rock is chasing after Santa who's kidnapped, through the whole city and is like flying through the air, is the moment when I was like, what is this movie? - Yeah. - I mean, I know of the face value of it is, it's an action holiday movie, which I guess we've had kind of before, but not to this extent. - But there's just action in that scene and the Krampus scene and then JK Simmons parkour at the end, I feel like. - Yeah, there's like a fist fight. - There's a lot of filler that's not action, yeah. - But yeah, the scene you're talking about Ken, where he's like, there's a bunch of kind of like conveyor belt type things to get presents around the North Pole. There's a scene where he like leaps off a roof and is clearly like CG-eyed. And I can only describe his body as if you kind of held up a toddler and they're just kind of like swinging their limbs around. He's like, legs just kind of like went up in the air, like, whee. Like, why is that the thing? Not like a badass superhero land or move or anything. - Yeah, yeah, there were a lot of CGI moments that were not great. - But I will give them credit. 'Cause that whole scene with all of the slides and stuff and him leaping and, you know, kind of a car chase is the closest we get to like a true, fast and furious, moment, I would say. - That's true. There are a lot of focus on cars in that movie. - Yeah. - You think about that? - The little wheel stuff. - The little cars that turn into big cars. - Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. - Yeah, Vazbear's doesn't like that. - We don't see any little cars. It's only big cars. - They don't have little cars that turn into big cars. And that's a way I guess this happened in the past. So maybe that technology was obsolete by the time totally drift rolled around. - Well, we have big cars to make little cars. We just have the big cars. Yeah, we don't need the little cars. - All cars were just big. - Yeah, okay. - All cars are big. - Yeah, 'cause they already transformed them from little cars, so. - Yeah. - They're just big cars. - Well, I think they probably could have used that toy shop teleportation technology for their heist and stuff. I think that would have came in handy, but that probably became obsolete as well. - Yeah. Well, I think that's how Dom got to Cuba. - A lot of interesting things there. - In part four and five, but. - And no toy stars in Antarctica. - Yeah, yeah, that's true. - That's true. - Okay, I do, while we're on the topic of the transformer thing, and for the listeners, the rock in using his elf wrist power gadget thing is able to make toys like real sized. So they grab a Hot Wheels car, he points the thing, and it becomes a real car, a big car. Goes from the little car to a big car. Do you get it? Okay, so he's got that device. They're walking through a toy star, and he's just like grabbing toys to like, basically arm himself with. And he grabs, not only does he grab like the Hot Wheels car, he grabs the rock 'em, sock 'em, which come in handy later, we see that. But then he grabs a monopoly board and a slinky, and we never see anything from the monopoly board, or the slinky. - Yeah, it must have been a deleted scene, but man, I want to know what happened with that. - I want to see a little, a giant top hat, and what he's going to do with that. - Yeah. - And like a thimble. - What do you think he possibly could have done with those things? - I will say the monopoly piece, there is a car, so making a little car big car. - A little car big car. - And then the thimble would have been cool to hide under, probably, if they needed a distraction. - Right. - In the top hat, they could have, they could have hit under that too. - Yeah. - And any one of those little houses, they could have hit under those. - This is just hiding a lot. - They needed money, they turned the fake money to real life. - Yeah, more of a defense strategy. - Well, the thing is pretty close to big money aside, I don't know how big that money would get. - Well, I think it, it's unique. He said it makes it, like, it alters its reality. I think it's specifically what it says, so yeah. It doesn't necessarily need to make it a different size, although everything he does does make it a different size, but-- - Yeah, it'd probably get a little bit bigger, but then real. Well, then they'd be a little bit. - Yeah, that's right, that's right. This lingy would have been so fun, like, in my mind, you make that big and it, like, slinks over and, like, goes on top of somebody and then they're kind of, like, trapped inside this lingy. That would have been perfect. - Until it flips over again and then-- - Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then you're immediately free, but then it'll trap the person behind you. - No, you just gotta make sure they're, like, near a wall. - Yeah, yeah, they can't do anything. - No. - Or on some stairs, and they just, like, tumble down the stairs in this lingy. - Right, you know, missed opportunity. I think when this comes out on Blu-ray, we'll all need to buy it and look at me. - Absolutely. - Yeah. - I'll see in section for what happened with those toys. - If they can get a good, like, director's cut, commentary, once Snyder gets his hand on it, we get a three-hour cut of this. - That's true, that's true. - More blood. - Let's get that trending on Twitter. - More blood. - Yeah. - You know, I was waiting until Trevie boy, what do you think the body count is for this? Are we talking humans or creatures? - I don't know. - I don't think anyone died. - Does anyone die? - The snowmen. - Oh, the snowmen die. - But they, like, took real care to collect the carrots at the end, so, I mean, they could maybe come back. - Oh, that's true. - They can regrow out of the carrots. That's what you're implying. That's what I'm implying, if they put it on a new snowman. - Oh, okay. Yeah, 'cause their power wasn't in their carrot nose. Yeah. - Yeah, right. - No, I don't think anyone died. - Does anyone die? Literally, no one dies, right? - No, that would be too sad for this maybe kids movie. - Yeah. - Likely kids movie. - Yeah, we don't know. - With a good amount of the word shit, so it was edgy or kids movie. - Well, did Nick Kroll die? - No, no, I thought he died. He fell down, he, like, slammed to the ground, and then they, like, pulled him back up, I'm pretty sure, right? - Okay. - Yeah. - Oh, he's frozen. No, he ends up frozen though. - Yeah, so like-- - Oh yeah, but they're not-- - You're not coming back from that, right? - No, you get melted and you're fine. - Oh, yeah. - It's like Han Solo and the thing. - Probably easier to come back from that than a snowman regrowing from a, or popping a nose on a new piece of snow. - That's true, that's true. So, technically-- - I don't know. - I like the idea of there being zero kill counts on this movie, yeah. - I would have wanted to see, I mean, I will say my favorite character is probably Garcia, the giant polar bear. - Absolutely. - I loved Garcia. - Yeah. - And I was hoping that Garcia would just, like, kind of grab someone and rip them apart if it was that kind of movie. - Just in half. - Yeah, 'cause that's-- - Yes. - Almost what I thought this movie was gonna be, maybe not that violent, but then it was a very more kid's focus. So, Garcia just ended up punching a lot of people and no real blood or anything. - Yeah. - You know what I really wanted to watch after this movie? - It was violent night again, because that's what I wanted this movie to be. - Yeah. - And it just wasn't. - That's what I was telling CJ after we left the movie, 'cause last year we watched "Violin Night" and I was like, I don't know, that was just in my head. - Yeah. - And Hobson Shaw was in my head, so I'm like, just gonna be something like that. - That's, again, not knowing who this is for, like what you were just saying, the amount of like, it's kind of like this wholesome ending that he reunites with his son, but then throughout the movie, they're just like, what the shit is that? And it's like, hold on, so wait, is this a kids movie? - Was it officially rated PG-13? 'Cause I feel like without some of the shits, it would just be rated PG. Like, what's keeping this from being a PG movie? - That's probably what put it over the edge, was like the hells and shits. - Right. - Which is what Steve calls himself after drinking some eggnog. - Oh yeah. I'm in literal hell. - With the shits. - With the shits, yeah. Unless I use lactate. It's a lot of nogs sometimes. I don't know, I don't think you guys are underestimating how much nog I'm drinking. - Overcome it with enough lactate. - Yeah. It's like a whole box of lactate. - Do they make lactated liquid forms? You're just like taking a swig of eggnog, taking a swig of lactate. - You know, like at the gym, people are putting the protein powder in. I just get a bunch of crushed lactated pills and mix that in my nog. So it's like a lot of powder and nog. - Smart. - No, was there any nog in this movie? - I think just milk, right? - Yeah, I just saw milk. - Slam. - Slam. - So lame. - Wanted more bodies being ripped apart, more eggnog. - Garcia is a very underutilized character. If you walked in with a glass of nog and then ripped someone in half, I would have given this movie. - I mean. - If he had the like milk mustache too, while he does it. - Yeah, exactly. - Like takes his little milk mustache and then rips him. - That'd be tough with a white polar bear, but I was kind of hoping you'd walk in with a bottle of coke. - Ah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Right? - Right. - Mr. Opportunity. - You guys had Santa on this pod before, right? - Last year, yeah. - We did. You know, he's been reaching out wanting to come back on, so we'll see what we can do. - Yeah, I was really bummed I missed that. - Yeah. - It was a funny episode, but I feel like it's worth asking him because this is probably based on his real life. And is he JK Simmons? I don't know. I have a lot of questions. - He did kind of look like him before. He didn't really sound like him though. - Yeah. - Like at all. - All right, listeners, if you've got questions for Santa Claus, email us at over-talkabout@gmail.com and we'll ask him on that episode. - That's right. - Get him in. - I'm gonna forget to email, but just ask him, are you JK Simmons? And does the J stand for Jack, if he is JK Simmons? - Okay. CZ remind me when you're on that episode with me. - Okay, yeah. I hope to make it this time. I can't believe I missed it. - Yeah, it'd be really weird if you missed it two years in a row. That'd be really weird. - I don't know, yeah. Cold's are going around. We'll see. Hope I'm not saying. - Yeah. - You could still go to the movies if you have a cold though. - Yeah, that's right. - Yeah, or worse. Look, I think it's time to do San Trivia. So it's time for... - Hey, do you know that? - That's right. For new listeners, this is the part of the film we pit our guest in our CJ. Head to head to see who knows the most about what we want. - You don't know. - CJ, are you too ready? - This is our CJ. - This is our CJ. - No, it's mine. I'm my CJ. - Collectively you are our CJ. Are you ready? - Yeah. - Okay. - Yes. - All right, first question. Just true or false. This was originally going to be direct to streaming. - I mean, true. That feels very appropriate. - True. - Yeah, 100%. - Yeah. - 100%. - This feels like a direct to streaming movie. - Still, yeah. - Yeah. - Was it going to be on Netflix? The big red one? - Nope, not even. - Oh. - Guess which streaming service it was going to be on? - Tubby TV. - Oh, no, not quite that bad. It was going to be on Prime Video. - Yeah. - Which like anything can be on. - So, yeah. - Wait, this was, it was an Amazon MGM Studios movie. That's why. - That's right, that makes sense. - Yeah, that's it. I guess it could have been on an MGM Plus, but no one has that. - That's a thing. - Yeah. - There's one show that I have watched on it. That's very good called from, but I don't know anything. - Did you pay for that Ken? - Yes. Moving on, next question. - It's called, can we go back one second, what is the price of MGM Plus? I am so curious. - We're going to. - It better be the next one. Whoever can answer that first. It's the point. - Four dollars, $3.99. - It's $7, $6.99 a month. - That's it, Siege. - I know, I just checked. - Oh. - Good point, good job. Next question. Does Santa refer to his reindeer as male or female? - Female. - That's correct. Bonus point, if you know why. - I don't know. - They don't have pieces. - Apparently in real life, male reindeer fed their horns in the winter, their antlers. So typically in the winter, they wouldn't have antlers. So the thought is that they must all be female, even though that doesn't track with every other reindeer related holiday movie I've seen, but yeah, that was the actual thought behind that. I have a question for you too while we're on the topic. - Okay. - This happens three times in the movie. What the hell does JK Simmons scream when he's riding the reindeer? - I don't know. It's some Valhalla like, both of them. - Yeah, it's Africa-dabra, yeah. - He said it three separate times and I couldn't understand him any of the times. - No. - The last time when he screams at it, it's supposed to be a big reveal. And I'm like, is that what he screamed like? - It's like when he gets car back. - Honestly, no. - Yeah, I still- - And there would have been a lot more weight to that if we knew what he yelled, but I knew that his powers were back when he yelled it. - Yeah, right. - So I was like, oh, he's back. - Ah, okay. - That'd not be the next trivia question. - No, it was not. This film made Dwayne the Rock Johnson the highest paid actor to date for his role in this movie. Can you believe that? How much did he get paid for this movie? - I don't even know how much these people get paid for a movie anymore. - I'll tell you it's in millions of dollars, but you should probably know that. - I'll say $25 million. - Okay. - Yeah, that's a good guess. 50. - 50 is exactly right, see. Wow, oh my God. - Yeah, it was previously held by like, I think Captain America's Civil War for Iron Man. They got, they have 44 million for that. So somehow this is supposed to be on par budget wise with that movie. I don't understand. They paid Dwayne the Rock Johnson $50 million for this movie. - That's, you're saying that's the highest actor sour? - And what's ever been paid ever for a movie? - Yes. - Are you serious? - That's what I'm saying. - Yes. (laughing) - Is that true? - According to Iron Man's Review Day, I don't know how much did Robert Downey Jr. get paid for like the later Avengers movies? I feel like those ones he was making a $100 million something. - That's kind of what it was a frame you got. He got 44 million for some of those. - That's, oh, okay. This is insane. What is this budget? That's wild. - You're probably gonna ask what the budget is. - Yeah, is that the next question? - Well, I'll just tell you. Well, yeah, do you wanna guess? I know what it is. I mean, if he's getting 50 million alone plus all that CGI and shit, is this like a 150 million, 200 million? - I'd say like 300 to 400 million. - Okay, we need a single answer for each of you. - 269 million. - Three hundred. - Okay. - 300. - See, CJ is closer. 250 million. Yes. - So he got a fifth of that budget? - Yeah. - It's insane. - Yeah. - How much did Chris Evans make? - 49 million. - Less than that, but I don't know. - But yeah, kind of what it is. - Yeah. I don't know if that's, it sounds fake, right? Like that can't be, I don't know. But that's what's written on I To Be Trippia. So we'll go with that one. I'll assume it's real. - Oh, shocking. - I know, I know. In how many films does JK Simmons play to Santa Claus? - Just the red one. - Okay. - Get it. - I can't think of any other ones. - I'll say two. - Two is correct. - But nice. - I don't know what it is. - No. - I have no idea. - Spider-Man 2. - He voiced Klaus in Klaus 2019. It was an animated movie. - Oh. - Or Klaus. I mean, he's probably Klaus with a spell Klaus with a K. Never seen it. I think it was on Netflix. - It is. - Klaus. - It doesn't, 95% rotten tomato score, Jesus. - Guess we gotta watch him. - Yeah. - I think he's gonna get typecast now though. - Only Jacked Santa's. We're mirror on it. - That's right. - All right, we're gonna make the next question worth two points in an effort to try to get Steve to catch up here. - Yeah, what's this score? - What? - What's the score? - I haven't been paying attention to the score at all. - Oh, I'm sorry, five to three. It's five to three. - Okay. - You're off by two, which is why two points could tie it up. What is around to be in a tomato score? In percentage, closest without going over, see just since you're in the lead, you'll go first with giving Steve even more of a chance. - Critics, 37%. - Okay. - Steve's pretty good. - I think it's really bad, but do I think it's worse than 37? I'll go, y'all go $1. - All right, it's tied up. Yeah, it's pretty bad, 31%. Oh, yeah. - I was gonna say like at like mid-thirties, but that's bad. - That is pretty bad. - I mean, it wasn't, yeah, pretty bad. - Yeah, all right, so here's the tiebreaker. We're not doing letterbox 'cause it's bullshit, but I'll tell you it afterwards. But we're doing gonna do the audience score on rotten tomatoes. What is the audience score on rotten tomatoes? This is just everyday users rating on rotten tomatoes for some reason rather than letterbox. - Can children have rotten tomatoes accounts? - I think so. - That changes everything. We're talking about kids. - I'd say 21 and you're gonna have to answer. All right? - Okay. - Three, two, one. - Six, three. - Oh. - 60 and 53. - Yeah. - Steve, you're our winner. You're closer. (siren blaring) - I'm gonna leave you in the suspense. - 91%. - What? - Are you serious? Oh, the kids are probably making spam accounts. - I don't understand. - There's that much of a difference. - That's insane. Letterbox is 2.5 out of 5, so what the fuck is going on? - Uh-huh. - What? - That movie felt like it. - How is it that off? - The critics score makes sense and it felt like a 60% is a very generous audience score for this movie. Where it's like, "Oh, it's pretty good." - Right. - But 90 is insane. - 90 is insane. - Wild. - It doesn't make sense. And it doesn't line up with Letterbox either, so what the, is it literally that different of the type of people who rate on Letterbox versus Rotten Tomatoes? - They probably use like 50 million of that budget to pay these children to review these movies. - To prop up the Rotten Tomatoes score, yeah. 'Cause that's an insane rating. - Yeah. All right, I just for, just 'cause I was curious, I quickly clicked over to the audience score. The first one that pops up is a four out of five stars. I enjoyed Garcia but didn't appreciate the language. I mean, fair. - So it's a child. - Yeah, that's a child, yeah. - Okay, well, I mean, Garcia makes it 90, that tracks. - Yeah. - I'm gonna get that. - But the audience, they're only putting stars, so it's like a Letterbox score. They're doing it out of five stars. I don't understand that. - Is that how they rate for critics too? Or do they get full percentage? - Well, critics, it's like some of them, it says like original score, C plus, it like depends on the outlet that's reviewing. - Oh, 'cause it is pull from everywhere. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Okay. - So some of them are, yeah. - So it could be something about, maybe if it's like under three stars, it's like a splat or something. - Yeah. Yeah, like this one says 2.5 out of four, this one says two out of five. - For critics? - Yeah, for critics. - Are there any other good audience ones? I wanna see if these are children. - I mean, all of them are good, that's what's insane. - How many look like they're written by AI tool? - Okay, maybe this one, they gave it two out of five stars. It was not a kids movie, lots of violence. I didn't like the evil parts, parentheses, the witch. - This is exactly what we're talking about. No one knows what this movie is, because I had the exact opposite thought, where I'm like, this is a kids movie. They should be more core. The witch was so tame, there was nothing that she did that was even scary or remotely evil. She was just putting people in little balls. - At one point she talked through a Nick Croll that whole scene was so fucking weird. - That was more supposed to just be funny. - Yeah. - I thought so, right? But when they would cut to her talking and then when Nick Croll's talking, does not line up at all, he's being Nick Croll. - Yeah, Nick Croll being Nick Croll, it was great. - Okay, I found one. This is, they've given their kids review in the review. - Okay, perfect. - So they start with 10-year-old daughter, nine out of 10, seven-year-old son, 11 out of 10, wife, nine out of 10, me, 7.5. - It's still too high. - But they clearly thought it was a kids movie then. - Yeah. - Right, they brought their young children to it. - Well, I think we got to get to our ratings. We've teased long enough. - Yeah, this is bad. - It's time for. ♪ There has today, we know you've been waiting ♪ ♪ So now it's time to hear my ratings ♪ - Steve on a scale of one to 10, what would you rate the red one for you? - I'd probably just give it just a straight up five right in the middle. - There. - Because I don't know how I feel. I don't, I like the rock. I like Garcia. If Garcia wasn't in this movie, he'd get a four or three. I like J.K. Simmons, needed more crampus. I don't know what else to say. Nick Kroll was a big plus. It's mostly, they have a lot of just separately good characters in a weird plot and the tone doesn't know what it's trying to be. - Yeah. - So yeah, I think five sounds pretty good. Which this is also pretty crazy 'cause I've been giving every single movie 10s and then after I watch the Expendables for one month, my whole life has changed. And I've just been watching all of these movies that aren't even 10s anymore. - No, yeah, it's interesting life to live when you watch not just the best movies ever. - Yeah, one of us. - I think something has to change. If I sound so defeated, that's why. - I guess we should sort of apologize for that. - Yeah, this is, this is how to present both of your faults. - That's fair. - Makes sense, yep, agreed. - Although I did choose this movie. It wasn't assigned to me as other people I wanna believe. I definitely chose this as I choose every movie like up here. - Right, right, right. - That's right. - Since what would you give this movie? - For me? - Yeah, I don't understand this movie. I think the parts that I laughed at, you weren't supposed to laugh at. It was entertaining, like it never felt slow. I wasn't bored ever, but it, the entire movie just doesn't know what it wants to be, which is a, I just left kind of confused. Which is probably not what they were going for. Yeah, I was gonna, I think a five and a half. I'm not gonna watch this again, but it was entertaining. I also don't know how to feel about it. - Yeah, I will say there was one part where you and I like snickered. I think it was the big, beat someone up and says good tidings, and then no one else laughed. Like no one else had a reaction to it. And I'm like, what are we watching? Are we watching the same movie? - Okay, actually really quick. I did, there were a couple of classic rock one-liners, but there's one part in the movie where the rock says, let's save Christmas to Chris Evans. And then you think then that it's gonna like cut away and go to the next part of the movie, but it stays on them and it's silent for a little bit. And then the rock's like, you have to say it. I want you to say it because I was like, I'm not saying that, he's like, you should say it. I did really enjoy that part, that they like acknowledge the cheesy one-liner and he makes the other character also say it. - Yes, that was very good. I like that at first he doesn't say it with enough confidence and then he makes him say it again. And even then it's like not even that good, but I do move on at that point. - That was good. - Yeah. - Ken, for me, yeah, I'm right there with you with like, I don't know what to think about this movie as well. However, five and above means I would watch it again and I will not watch this again. So I'm going to give it a four for me. There's some parts that are good like Krampus. There's a lot of parts that are kind of cringy. Like there's one point when Chris Evans and his son get trapped in separate crystal balls for whatever reason and or snow globes. He like apologizes to his son and then that makes them both not naughty somehow. It didn't make any sense and it was just- - For a lifetime of naughtiness, he just says he loved his son. He both busted out of those little snow globes. - Doesn't make sense. - The standards are so low. - Anyway, there's more I could talk about, but it's not even worth it. - Yeah, four for me. - And I hope they make a second one. - No, no. - I'll probably watch it. - Yeah, I would definitely watch this equal if it came out. - Yeah, I'll probably be forced to watch it. - All right, fingers crossed for next year. - I mean, yeah, they sink this much money into it and I bet you it's making money because no one knows what the movie is and clearly kids like it. - So, you know, audience score of 90? Yeah, we're gonna get a sequel. It's a hell of a movie. - I hope to figure out what the movie is by then though. - We won't have a Fast and Furious new movie until 2026, so there's gonna be opportunity for these movies. In the meantime. - Yeah. - Oh, I wanted to share one more tidbit. I saw a 90 week review that I couldn't work into a question, but so in addition to doing the Rock Johnson being now the highest paid actor in history for this movie, this movie, I could not get over that. - Was this salary put him over the top for highest grossing of all time? Or like, this salary was the highest salary ever? - This salary was the highest salary ever. - That's so insane to me. - Yeah, I know, I can't wrap my head around it. But in addition to that, apparently he was like a pain to work with on this movie. Specifically, he would show up to set like super, super late, like eight hours late, and that pushed them way over budget. - Eight hours. - And they had to, yeah, but which is interesting because that's what Dom was accused of, and that's what the Rock didn't like about him working with him on Fast and Furious movies. So clearly he picked up some of those bad habits. - There we go. This is all just setting up the intrigue for the next Fast and Furious movie. That's all this is doing. This is not a, some kind of weird stunt. This is like a planned pre-production for Fast. - More drama. - Hey, Red One Two, you get Vin Diesel in here, man. - Well, come on, we all know it's going to be called Red Two, right? - That'd be good. - Oh yeah. Are we going to do the Mrs. Claus spinoff? - The Mrs. Claus spinoff, yeah. - Yeah, you know, when they showed the reindeer, I just didn't, I didn't buy in because one of them wasn't speaking and feeling Lil's voice and farting all the time. So I don't know, I think that's really what kicked me out. - So they were huge. Those are the biggest reindeer I've ever seen in my whole life. - They were huge, yeah. And they had like warp speed from their antlers. - Yeah, that's what took me out of it, I think. Krampus and all his creature friends, I was like, this tracks, this makes sense. Krampus's whole mystical world was really cool, but the reindeer were too big. - This should've been little. - Yeah. - Is that what J.K. Simmons was yelling? He was yelling warp speed and then they would kick off and go, who knows? - Sure. - I tried to quickly Google it while we were talking about it and apparently it's like trending on TikTok is the phrase like, what does J.K. Simmons yell? - And no one knows. - No one knows. - Oh my God. If that's trending, a lot of people must've seen this movie. - Yeah, which is just like getting a sequel. - I mean, do we have early box office returns for this? 'Cause this is the second week. 'Cause this weekend it was up against like wicked and gladiator too, so. - Oh, right. - I kind of had a lot of staying power, which is a shame 'cause I need there to be a red too. - Red one has only grossed a little over 50 million domestically and now they're 64 million from overseas markets. - Honestly, they've only paid off the rock. - Yeah, that's good. - All right, well. - Steve, thank you for joining us on the first episode of this year's The War on Christmas. - The War on Christmas. (dramatic music) (gasps) - Do you have anything you want to plug at the end here for your tool shop or anything? What do people put on their cars this time of year? What's going on? - Yeah, pretty much just get, you know, that kind of like that thick plastic stuff that older households would have over their couches to prevent spills and stuff? - Yeah. - Yeah, you're gonna want that on your cars if you're noggin' and drivin'. (laughs) Because I've been there and it's a huge mess, especially if you're drifting. You're gonna have to, that's why I switched over that thick water bottle with the straw attachment on it. - It's straw. - 'Cause it's not practical, but it is cleaner. - I mean, in your case, it's good in case you can't make it to where you're going in time, right? - Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - The toilet, because I'm always in a rush when you have to write nog. Yeah, exactly, slippin' and slippin' all over the place. - All over that too. - Anyway. - Yeah, exactly, yeah. So it's helpful for two things, the nog, and then the aftermath. - God. - So-- - Should we stop saying drifting and call it Calamine from now on? - No. Oh, seems what we got by the check. - I keep forgetting his real name. - You can follow us on all of the things that OvertakingPod email the show at overtakingpod@gmail.com with your questions for Santa Claus. You can visit our website at overtakingpod.party.com just to show it, USA get 1.5, 9.1, and use code overtakingpodbf for 50% off of magic mind. And definitely do that. It's the best way to support the show, guys. Great deal. If you're gonna do it, do it now. Do it! All right. Oh, no, they're here. Oh. Sliding in. Oh, actually, they're, you know what, sled they're in? I think it's cramp is a sled. - Nice. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Oh, they're exerting. - Yeah, they're skirting in here. That's the overtaking-- - They're calamine in here. Sorry, calamine in here. There are guests of the Worldly Landlords who also get into whatever season it is and the season is cramp is knocked. And they're here to remind me to remind you, if you'd like to tell us to go on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and review where applicable reviews are to help people find this podcast also we spend a no money in advertising. So if you'd like to tell us to tell it for us by the word, we'd really appreciate it. Thank you. - Thank you. - And happy holidays. - And as we say, at the end of every single episode-- - So let's move! - Yeah, y'all, whatever he does. (laughing) - Exactly. - Bye. - Bye. - Bye. - This episode of the overtaking podcast was edited by CJ produced by Ken and CJ. This week's special guest was Steve, music by Justin Peters, logo by Nate Richards. Check out Nate's work on Instagram at Nate Richards Designs. (upbeat music) (upbeat music)
