The Daily Mind
Season 17. Episode 420: The Friendzone
[MUSIC] Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, what's going on everybody? >> [APPLAUSE] >> Hey, what's going on in my podcast about again on this very nice Wednesday evening. It's beautiful outside, the moon is out, all that cool stuff. Welcome to the show, thank you, thank you for joining me, taking the time. How was everybody's day going so far? How was your week going so far? As we now enter the very first week of December, we got about what? Three weeks left till Christmas, so everybody's just full swing getting their shopping on whether it be online or if it's out and about, the old fashioned way. Not a lot of people doing much of that anymore. So either way, however you shop, shop safely. You said no audio, hold on, I think I got an audio issue going on here. Give me one second, I'm gonna try to fix this issue. Give me a second, how was there no audio? That's weird, hold on, we're fixing that problem right now. I think I might know what the problem is. Hey, can you hear me right now? Can you guys hear me? Jesus Christ, nothing's going well. Just give me a thumbs up if you hear me cuz apparently, all right, yeah, I don't know, man. I'm trying, it's a long story, I gotta figure that out. Anyway, welcome to the show, I got a good one for you tonight, tonight episode is going to be, well, this episode tonight is inspired by two nights ago. So when I was reading all the questions and answers off of Cora, one of the things that came out is about men and women being friends and stuff like that. Can a man and a woman just be friends without any physical or sexual attraction? Some people say yes, some people said no, which brings us to tonight's topic in a sense, the friend zone, all right, the friend zone, now, whoo, the friend zone, okay, so it's something, it's not a new concept. In fact, the term friend zone was actually created in the 90s and you know how old things are around, they come back again, voila, essentially, the friend zone is basically, for example, you, a female friend or whatever, you know, you guys have been friends forever in the day and then all of a sudden, maybe you might want to take it to the next level with this person because you guys know each other so well that you think that maybe perhaps nobody else would know you, however, though, the friend zone could be a bake or break of a friendship. In fact, there was an episode of Seinfeld kind of based on the idea if Jerry and Elaine, who used to go out in the show, if they went and did, you know, what in the room would it ruin the friendship? Now, I've heard in some cases, I know someone where they're, you know, good friends and one night they took it to another level and what happened was he had some problems performing with this person and needless to say, it didn't fuck up the friendship, it was an awkward moment she said, but it did not mess up the friendship, however, though, yeah, the friend zone. So tonight, I want to go over the friend zone, signs that you are in the friend zone and, of course, stories of people sharing their friend zone stories and it's quite sad. I'm pretty sure I comment below, if you are in the friend zone currently, don't be afraid to say it or you know someone in the friend zone and maybe you're trying to just like let them know like, hey, man, she's not into you, you just friends, just let it be or just share a little quick friend zone story of your own, that'd be pretty cool as well. Look, damn, we already hit 1000 likes in three, in less than four minutes. I love it. Thank you very much. Whether or not your friends will, because sometimes you don't even know it or sometimes you just don't get a hint, okay, she's just not into you, but you will constantly, constantly try and try to make it happen. So without further ado, just give me one second, people, I'm just getting some message, some information. What the hell is on this? Anyway, sorry about that. I was just meeting some information. So anyway, I got a little sidetracked, okay? So the friend zone, right? How do you know that you're being friend zone, right? So I have to look up, I have to find like a website or whatever, because a lot of us don't really get the hint, right? So I follow a quick little website, Redif, it's called not Redif.com, gives me 10 simple signs that your friend zone, I'm going to go through it, break it down, get some insight from you guys, maybe you guys have a friend zone story you guys want to share or whatever the case is, let me know, all right? So this website, Redif, right? This article was written last August, but nonetheless, it still holds true. I didn't want to go find a list that broke down everything in like a thesis statement, a long essay kind of deal, I didn't want to deal with that. So it breaks it down very simply, I'm going to try to translate it as much as I can, much as I can, let's make it work, all right, 10 signs that you've been friend zone, okay? Because nobody likes to be friend zone, but sometimes there are boundaries for a reason you don't want to cross. Now, it says, "Avoiding love subjects of discussion is one of the first indications that you are being friend zone. Warren Sibyl Shaddell, she's a country manager in Indiana, I don't know, some website, apparently she manages, okay? Now, it says, " Feelings aren't always returned and we occasionally find ourselves in the dreaded friend zone to avoid when a romantic," I'm sorry, when a person's romantic sentiments are reciprocated, "They are said to be in the friend zone and continue to be platonic friends with other persons." Haha, all 10 signs you need to pack it up, oh, that's cute, isn't your hot pocket done in the microwave or something? Anyway, to avoid misunderstanding and grief, it's critical to recognize the warning signs of being friend zone, people, you may not see it, you may see it, you don't care, it is what it is, you just going to try and pursue, but let me ask you though, is it worth really chasing after your best, after your girlfriend, you know, the friend that you grew up with, is it worth it knowing that there are millions of other women to chase, but I guess what it is for some people, they take so much time invested in this one person that they think they know this person so well, but what you don't know is that she's not feeling you, it's that simple, that's the terrible part. Alright, so one of the signs that it says here about one of the signs to look out for are being friend zone is, one, when they avoid love topics and conversations, okay? Now, at some point, your friendship is going to mature into more mature topics, right? You know, again, you might have known this girl or whatever since kindergarten, so you no longer talk about crayons and color and shit, you're talking about things that teenagers tend to talk about or adults tend to talk about, right? So I love, love topics, right? Or maybe ask your friends, hey, you ever plan on getting married or having kids and blah, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, number one, avoiding love topics and conversations, it says avoid love subjects and discussion is one of the first indications that you are being friend zone, it is a sign that your friend only views you as a platonic companion if your conversations are limited to muting topics. It'd be like off love topics, it'd be just something like, I don't know, going out to eat sports, whatever, just shit that obviously the guy is just not trying to hear. Common hobbies and lighthearted banter without even getting deeper, without getting into deeper emotional ties or romantic desires, guys, you know, and the sad part about this is that this is more directed towards guys, but a lot of people don't realize is that they are also females that try to get out of a friend zone with guys, it happens, but it seemed like the painting, the pictures always painted with guys trying to get out of a friend zone. I don't know, but I mean, think about it guys, you've been, you've known this girl for so long, you guys are adult to whatever, she's not, you're talking about love and you know what ifs and creating all these crazy scenarios, she don't want to hear it, then that's your first indicator right there that she doesn't want anything to do with that, that's not what she's thinking about because I promise you when she hits you with that whole, you know, I see you like a brother kind of deal, it's game over, you might as well stop, if she says I see you only as a brother and the best friend, your chances of ever trying a 180 that is gone, number two, lack of flirting, apparently I mean, flirting is, you know, requires chemistry, if there's no chemistry then how the hell do you expect the friend zone to turn into something more, now it says expressing romantic interest through flirting is natural, of course, it may be a sign that your love sediments are not being reciprocated if you find that your attempts at fun banter or compliments are regarded with disinterest or treated as friendly gestures, hmm, alright David you said the flirting, yeah I can see that, now you said um, fg4d, she said if you're in the friend zone you need to find another girl, I mean it's obvious, but again like I said earlier, the dude might have invested all that time and you know, you know, been there at her worst moments, her best moments and you feel like that maybe that's a catch, like he knows everything about her, he knows what makes her upset and all this shit just to get friend zone, yeah you might as well find somebody else because that means if that's the case, maybe you might have always seen her as something more ever since, you know what I mean, hey fat what's going on, tonight's topic is the friend zone and whether or not men and women could just only be friends because a lot, some people say it is in our DNA that we have to, we can't just be friends with women, right, because if that's the case um, like when you work with females, right, I mean you're not going to sit there and try to sleep with every female you work with at work, are you, then again you might, you might not, however though there are boundaries, you can't sleep with every woman at your job unless you work at like dominoes or little seizes or something, that's a whole different fg story, but if we're talking somewhere different, I don't know, maybe somewhere up the corporate ladder even then, alright fat you said men going to want more always even if they start as friends, I mean yeah the intention is somewhere back there, but there are some genuine guys that just want to be friends, I fixed, I knew this was going to happen, who you think would get put in the friend zone first, R Kelly or Diddy? Fix, do you always seem to fit R Kelly and Diddy into every single topic I talk about? I don't know who would get put in the friend zone first, they're in jail, in fact, in fact they're, they're probably getting friend zone in different ways in jail, so I can't even answer that for you man, I'm sorry, I'm going to move with more than likely being the friend zone, I think at this point in time probably Diddy, alright you said R Kelly, alright well I would R Kelly likely be in the friend zone over, I can't believe I'm talking about this shit, alright answer the question then, why do you think R Kelly would more than likely be put in the friend zone over Diddy, I love to hear it, alright number three, intimate chats are rare, I mean they're rare for a reason right because she's not thinking what you're thinking, maybe once in the blue she'll crack open that box a little bit and express a little bit of like intimate details, but more than likely she is going to be telling you details about if she was with somebody else, not with you, alright so number three, intimate chats are rare, alright FG4 you said Diddy got Riz, I mean he was with J-Lo, I mean he pulled J-Lo, okay, um he has no denying that, I mean J-Lo's got more rings than Thanos but you know he pulled J-Lo, I will give him that, you know I mean I didn't even see that shit coming but yeah whatever, it just happened, you know sometimes money talks, alright so number three as a sign that you are in the friend zone, intimate chats are rare, alright it says here intimate chats about one's hopes, dreams and vulnerabilities are frequent among close friends, why didn't you tell me you were coming, anyway Jesus Christ, however your friend might be reluctant to develop a deeper degree of connection with you if they avoid talking about personal challenges or emotions, alright FG4 you said no R Kelly better not diss my man like that again oh my god, do you have like every poster of Diddy on your wall like from 1994 bad boy up until like jail because I mean I'm a little confused about your obsession with Diddy, in fact it's scaring the fuck out of me, anyway so again it says intimate chats are rare, it says however you may find you might be reluctant to develop a deeper degree of connection with you if they avoid talking about personal challenges or emotions, if they don't talk about none of that stuff then obviously and they're gonna go any further than just friends, you need to leave that alone, love you too hun, alright number four another sign that you're in the friend zone, the standard is casual group hangouts which means she don't want to hang out with you by yourself, she wants to hang out with you with other friends, alright number four the standard is casual group hangouts, if you engage with people primarily in groups and only occasionally one or one it may be an indication that your friend wishes to keep things informal and non-romantic between the two of you people, that's right there like you should just quit, okay just quick because eventually you're gonna end up killing the friendship if you're too forward and you're like man you know what I know we're friends but I've always had my eye on you that's crazy work you're gonna get packed up and more than likely you're never really gonna be friends again or or in rare cases she might be thinking the same thing but just wait it for you to say something about it what yeah so I mean you're welcome, alright Dave you said what if she does want to hang out with you by yourself she doesn't reciprocate the same feelings just say yeah exactly it says here on occasionally one on one or just hanging out with friends then that's then that should tell you everything that means you should just stop there's no sense of even because again she might hit you with the like if like again I said earlier if she hits you with the you know you're like a brother to me it is over it is over that like a brother she went and they are brothers so why the fuck would she date you all right number five I think this is a big big one right here big big one because if there was if this tree existed before it would have been a different story lack of physical affection okay lack of physical affection you'll be lucky if she gives you a hug on a daily basis as a friend but if she ain't even giving you a hug friend zone if she's tired that's a different story then no no see we're talking about friends male and female friends we're not talking about couples and shit like that we're talking about male it we're trying to figure out if men and women could just be friends and the friend zone that was my wife she kind of she kind of throws in her zingers here and here now she's busy right now though um all right so ah they say you need to be on this episode number five lack of physical attraction I think this is a big one it says romantic partnerships frequently involve large amounts of physical contact your acquaintance might not think of you as a suitable romantic partner if you exhibit a little to no desire for physical closeness such as embracing or holding hands why are you holding hands with your friends in the first place that's crazy to me all right honestly I'll give you a quick little story hun I this ass happened to me it was a girl that I liked that I was when I was younger right probably like pre-teen and I remember we were good friends but I actually did like her though and one time I tried to hold her hand and she held my hair for a bit and pushed it away man I was fucking hurt but yeah like you try to make a move and you know don't be a creep either like don't sit there and just try to put your arm around them and shit like you're not going together right like I try to like hold her hand and she held it and it's kind of let it go I mean David it's not that some girls are weird right girls know what they want like men like women know what they want like men know what they want I mean it's just what it is they don't want you that's just the problem but like I said there's in rare instances there's always the case where the guy makes the step and the woman reciprocates it like yo you know what I had a weird attraction to you too but see the thing is who's going to approach that that bridge first without making it very awkward you know what I mean who's going to approach first all right number six you are limited limitedly involved in my future plans which means he doesn't see a future with you at all limitedly which means here and there or damn near you're not even in my future plans it says when someone is interested in a love relationship they usually consider the other person in their future plans I mean right um being friends on could could be obvious if your friend doesn't see you as a love partner in the future yeah damn they immediately and yet we're together 13 years so there you go um but yeah obviously if she doesn't see if you ask her like like hey Susan where do you see us in the future like don't even that's that's just the only question right like hey what do you how do you see us in the future and she hits you with the I don't know that's it if she doesn't see the future with you I highly recommend you get a DeLorean and try to change that and even then you're fucked either way all right number seven they just oh this is the one that's going to hit you hard as a sign that you're in a friend zone if you don't get the hint at this particular point like fg said just pack it up they discuss other romantic interests with you obviously if they're discussing other romantic interests that doesn't involve you you are friend zone you are in the zone the end zone the friend zone you are just a friend leave it it said if your friend freely shares the romantic preferences on day or dating experiences with you it may be because they view you more as a confidant than as a potential mate or what what did my wife say speak louder because no no no no do you know what that's called a shoulder to cry on and a dick to ride on you do not want to be the rebound guy or the person that picks up the mess off the floor as that that's just taking advantage of a situation yes it is but but that's the but that's the point I tried to make and if a man and a woman has been friends for years and the man says yo i want to take it to the next level and then she says damn i want to too i always have feelings for you in some cases that happens but more more times than not the guy will take that step and then he gets friends on because she doesn't see him the same way that happens too now number seven they discuss other romantic interests oh no did i read that one oh yeah they they see you more as a confidant and there's nothing wrong with being a confidant because women is a chest of secrets then guys if you have a female friend and she shares everything with you even despite you being in the friend zone the fact that she trusts you that much i guess is like the consolation prize for being in the friend zone other than that just let it go man just pack it up pack it up number eight absence of jealousy the veil you hit this one you said probably to get you jealous number eight is the absence of jealousy you you said you hit it right before i even said it jealousy can indicate emotional investment and romantic relationships if your friend doesn't express any jealousy or any worry when you break up other potential romantic interests they could not be interested in you romantically which means you don't give a fuck who you date or whatever the case is maybe she'll care if that woman breaks your heart and she'll come in but other than that if i'm sitting here discussing you know what i you know a girl or whatever and she just like oh that's great that's nice you know i'm happy for you that's it she'll be there when you get hurt though hopefully and i don't know if you can sit there and reverse uno that and try to get with her and do that whole shoulder to cry on dick the ride on kind of deal but again that that's hit a miss circumstantial every situation is different all right we had three thousand likes and how much time are we into the show 22 minutes i got to get to an hour all right number nine i just got on the show yeah that's okay well now you're here number nine when they try to set you up with others it could be a defense mechanism because maybe your your friend might see that you like her and she's like man i got to hook him up with somebody fast because i'm not feeling him i don't know how to tell him this but i want to sit there and basically set him up with a friend number nine they try to set you up with others again if you're joining the show this episode is about the friend zone and whether or not men and women can just be friends it says if your buddy actively makes attempts to set you up with others or encourages you to date outside of your friendship group it may be a sign that you that they don't view you as a possible spouse well no shit because if they're like man i'm gonna hook you up with somebody listen we good we're just friends but i know a friend that i can hook you up with game over just just date the friend right that the friend might be way better anyway just go for the friend uh sous we we've been talking about it already but i'm glad you're joining the show we're talking about the friend zone and whether or not men and women can be just friends again i don't know i want to hear your take on it sousby by the way uh people sousby is one of my executive producers of this show um all right dave you said nah you hear that shit and then shit does it 180 yeah it's true it can potentially um it depends man things could go in so many different directions right but if you're if your friend's trying to hook you up with her friend just go with the friend hopefully she is of your liking i hope if not men whatever number 10 this is it this is the shit i said earlier that is going to seal the fate of excuse me of you being in the friend zone number 10 when she slaps you with the brother sister label guys will do this with the with women be like now i only see you as a sister all right sousby said you can't say if you ever been friend zone that's fine because again people this friend zone shit is not just limited to guys trying to get with their female friend women do this shit to get with the guys too and they hit and again brothers you're like a brother to me or you're like a sister to me it doesn't matter all right number 10 the brother sister label the use of the terms brother or sister by your buddy in a loving manner may be the most telling evidence that you have been friends on people if you get told this and this does not register in your head you lost in life you might as well get lost in a library go read James and the giant peach or something you're just fucking lost it says this designation makes it apparent that the relationship is platonic and indicates that romantic feelings are not imminent um imminent game over that's it you might as well just pack it up even alone because that right there is the most heart wrenching thing that a woman could tell a guy who's trying to make advances i only see you as a brother how do you recover from that you know you got a choice right you can either keep pursuing this shit or move on all right so he said do not pass gold do not collect two hundred dollars all right just stay friends all right you never know in the future though the future is unwritten maybe maybe something can develop from it but more than likely not if 20 or so years have passed by that you guys were friends and you still couldn't get past the friend zone you're just going to be friends that's it all right that that's just what it is okay so now that we kind of establish what the friend zone is i guess in the sense i want to hear some stories i want to hear people get on the live guest and tell me something about the friend zone um yeah tell me about that's commitment 20 years in fact there was a guy i seen on uh i think it was on world stars some shit um there was a guy that was uh a friend to a woman like they were best friends growing up and after 20 or so years they finally together she kept him in the friend zone for over 20 years and now that now now they took it to the next level it's too late why would you wait on at that point i wouldn't even want to i just leave that shit alone like 20 years no it's not funny it's actually that's sad yeah i mean that bismarkey song yeah with just friends she says she's just a friend i think that's one of the earliest friend zone songs ever is bismarkey's um song all right captain jay you said you would have blocked that after two weeks yeah you damn yeah huh speak loudly yeah but that's what we're trying to get at like yes best friends can fall in love but that's what i'm saying but it has to be the point of the friend zone is one person starts to fall in love like the guy starts to fall in love with the woman but she's not reciprocating the same energy but let's just say the guy once again expresses he wants to take the pressure to the next level and she turns around and say hey i want to do the same thing that's friends that's exactly what you just said but it doesn't always work that way friends with benefits yeah because after a while like you once you hit the friends with benefits stage it's like that's that's the example i gave all the time was signed from a jerry nalene and and it's funny james asked the question why is it always the guy it could be the girl too but movies there's actually a movie called friend zone it came out in 2021 it's all the media always paints the guy being in the friend zone but never the woman being in the friend zone and i'm pretty sure there's some sort of a hidden agenda behind that i don't know why but contrary to what you guys think women can be put in the friend zone too is not just guys all right there i'm sure there was guys out there who had their their female best friend like make advances and he just said hey i only see you as a sister come on now matter of fact hold on what's another example of this shit well back to the future was like okay i'm gonna kind of go back to the future's a little bit vague um so remember when marty and his mom back in 1955 they were in the car she kissed them and she stops kissing him because she's like you know you're like you're like my brother kind of deal yeah she said i feel like i'm kissing my brother kind of deal so can you imagine you and your female or male friend whatever you guys kiss and they tell you you know it's like kissing my brother or sister that's terrible that would be the most awkward in fact you probably won't even talk to each other for a while and y'all just move on and then maybe let some time go by and then just reconcile and just maybe bury that embarrassing moment and put it behind you because yeah all right so i'm gonna go over some um some friend zone stories because i'm pretty sure there's some crazy ass stories of people in the friend zone and uh i'm gonna i'm gonna go look up some of this shit oh no maybe it might be some uh friend's friend zone stories from reddit um what is your friend zone i guess i got a subreddit for friend zone uh ask reddit a success or total failure what is your friend's zone story i'm gonna read some stories not no long winded stories because last time i checked this in reading rainbow and i'm not gonna see it read your fucking story um so i'm gonna go over some friend zone stories reddit is always full of surprises so let's see the 69th brokeage he said that was fat the girl told me i was too fat after two months of dates got not fat girl asked me out when i'll refuse the free meal refuse the kids never spoke again i don't know that's a lot that's a lot to pack in man that's uh so fat unfat and then like am all right banana stand baby banana stand baby that's a fucked up name um he said not me but a co-worker she always talked about her best friend hey the boss 95 what's going on thank you for joining the show tonight we're talking about the friend zone and whether or not men and women can just be friends is it really woven in our DNA that we have to be with the female in a sense that you know if we're friends we got to be something more don't know captain j you said probably was a kid's meal and boss you said no but there's always some hidden intentions to be said the same thing that regardless a man and a woman being friends there's always a hidden agenda somewhere because it's kind of like having your hands tied behind your back right now it's in our DNA to be attracted to a woman right or a man or whatever you're choosing is now imagine you and your female best friend she got hot over the years and you're trying to like resist your urges your hands behind your back and you're trying your hardest just to try to be friends but you can't it's it's hard but eventually you're gonna break free you're gonna try to take that step and whether or not you're successful or not depends all right i'm gonna get back to the story by banana stand baby says that a co-worker that he knew she always talked about her best friend Alex she had a real douche boyfriend and he did not like Alex as it was obvious to everyone but her that Alex was in love with her long story short she finally kicked douche boy to the curb and Alex made his move they've been together a little over a year now and just got engaged okay that's one of those rare stories where friends turn into something more but i guess also to the the motivator behind that was the douchey boyfriend so i guess that kind of kind of like move things on a little bit all right el swordfish he has a story said when he was 15 there was this really adorable hilarious suite an adventurous guy i went to school with but he had a girlfriend we became friends and stayed friends okay here we go roversals now this is from a female perspective all right so they became friends and stayed friends now he already has a girlfriend right not extremely close after school but talked when we saw each other out in public and of course on social media well things change and shit happened and we both ended up single at the same time and now we are dating 16 years later how often does that happen now again it was a double KO they ended up both being single right there okay so they're male they're their friends right they're pretty close he had a girlfriend i guess she had a boyfriend and double KO they both got single and 16 years later oh that's cute i appreciate it 16 years later they did together i guess it's the the um almost like the florence nightingale effect or the shoulder to cry on is the dick the ride on everybody seemed to have some sort of standby maybe they just had each other on standby or maybe they always had a hidden agenda with each other and if things falter with the people that um that they were with that they just got together so i guess they both had a backup plan of sorts in the event that their relationships went sour that doesn't happen very often or maybe it does uh yes i appreciate it thank you for filling the live goal i appreciate it right now we had 3.5 000 likes hopefully by tonight or by the end of the episode whatever um which i got about a half hour we'll probably get to that point all right next story which is actually that was a pretty cool story man because that was like something out of a movie for sure that's a long story aunt wrong uh what is what i'm not reading all these long-ass stories they're really really long and i you know i don't want to read them all pause uh cringe-worthy friend stone story maybe i can this is on the ask men subreddit so maybe they might be some cool stories out of this or some really traumatic stories out of it all right roughneck 007 that's their name people i i'm not here to judge uh says that finally um he said uh starters he said that he knew her for years hung out with her her family all the time her mom and dad loved me oh that's once you get in with the parents that's great right yeah sure uh he finally decided to ask her out she said i don't like you in that way because she wanted to date my best friend oh no i must have started a chain reaction of confidence because she went and asked him out two days later oh he turned her down and friend zoned her oh friend zoned her and he caused uh he friend zoned her cause because he knew how much i liked her buddy and i are still friends after 25 years loved that guy by the way she's doing great has a great family and husband bros looking out for bros he sat there was like fuck no you i don't like you because i know my best friend like you bros before all right brother's wife all right boy she said brother's wife has guy friends she even hangs out with some of them i told that's not okay opinion oh okay hold on let me break this down a little bit um all right brother's wife has guy fresh even hangs out with some of them i told that that's not okay okay well i think we touched on this quite a few all right uh in terms of women having guy friends and guys having female friends all right i'll take you for it i'll take my my my relationship for example right she has guy friends i have female friends or actually i don't really have well i have one female best friend all right she has one guy best friend and we it's in our nature to talk to people of the opposite sex that's just the way human nature is i'm a guy i can't just be talking to guys and she's like oh well i don't want you talking to other females you need to only talk to guys only that's crazy huh who's my female best friend i will get to you on that i can't show you her right now because i'm not gonna say her name on here i'm not gonna say her name on here okay you can take your bra off all you want i'll be in there in a minute yes i will anyway um so she has a bunch of uh he said kush okay my best friend's name her name is kashawna okay okay there you go now we've established that now back to you boss nine five sooby shut the fuck up anyway back to back to boss um okay so she got female friends right she's married though right she made a vow to the guy it's all right for to have female friends all right now sooby when on monday that question came up on the is there such thing as a stupid question episode right after you left the show and me and you of course had this conversation about females having guy friends or too many guy friends and vice versa now some women choose to have more guy friends because i've heard it one of the main reasons is that females are too much trouble to be friends with you know you got to deal with jealousy and all the heartbreak stories all that shit some women vibe with guys a lot better that's just what it is okay see my wife says she was a tomboy when she was younger so that's another thing too women can be tomboys they just want to they're like the bros or here's another factor why she might hang out with a bunch of other guys maybe she was the only girl out of like four or five brothers so all she knows to hang out with dudes because all of her siblings were guys there are a lot of factors as to why and there's nothing wrong with her having a lot of female friends i mean guy friends you got to check the insecurity at the door unless you got proof that she's messing around with these guys all right sooby said that oh yeah the quote i relate to guys more than girls yeah that's that's one of the main reasons why and and in some cases some women do vibe with guys more than girls okay now let me ask you my wife said like when she was in uh in high school where she was in uh what was it oh weight training now let me ask any of those guys try to flirt with you well see that's the thing though if you think that it's possible that one of those guys might have been like because every guy apparently has this intention do you think any of those guys were looking at you a certain way and you know this how you can have but listen listen you could be in a relationship and still look at another woman and be like yeah she's attractive as siblings okay we'll see there you go some women just vibe with guys because and advice versus some guys and i know where we're going to go with this some guys like to just hang out with females and it doesn't necessarily mean they go that way there are hetero guys that are out there that can vibe with females they still love women but they don't deal with the drama of men yes men we do have dramas too they just want to hang out with women but the first thing that we think that when we see a guy hang out with a lot of women is that he goes that way but that might not even be the case okay what about and nothing happened okay well that's a different story but that but see that's the intent that's like when you at work right let me give an example real quick i know in in the military i can tell you right now everybody has this thought when you always see that one guy and that one girl hanging out together lunch everything they're always together i can tell you right now and i'm even guilty of this my first thought sometimes was yo they're banging but have no proof right but that's hypocritical of what we're talking about tonight can a guy and a girl be friends what i'm seeing on the outside i don't know what the hell is happening on the inside i just people we see a man and a woman or whatever women women we see the same people always around each other and we just think that oh they're in the sun they're in the sun but what if they just really good co-workers and colleagues and they get the job done and they respect each other and have boundaries we don't think about that first thing we think is that they're banging and they're banging a lot because they're smiling too much while waiting for food at chipotle or some weird shit like that oh yeah yeah i know i know i know i know i know i know my life was giving me a perfect example of seeing the glass half empty half full and it turned out that it was actually true i i'll get into the story but i'll be as vague as possible so my wife was really good friends with this one um with this one woman this one person right now he was away her husband right was away whatever work work related shit and she would see while the husband was away she would always see her with this other dude it started to think like why is this person always with her but where's the husband at long story short she was banging the other dude while the guy was away sometimes the half the glass is half empty half full depends on how you see it what are you going to do about it not a damn thing you're probably just going to gossip about it the whole time yeah she never judged the i look i stay in my lane right i know guys they got the bro code women got the cis code or whatever the hell you guys call it it's not your place bro code i'm like listen if you want to sit there and bang somebody other than your wife who am i the judge i'm not going to say a damn thing what oh yeah like that one friend that's like hey if i see your husband out there screwing around i'm gonna let you know but what if they flip the script and don't even say shit and they're really your friend i mean i don't know but then again people want to stay in their lane they don't want to get involved in that shit that's none of their business okay but let me ask you this let me ask you guys this right your best friend um has your back right and they saw the person that you were with messing around with somebody else but they didn't tell you would you be mad at your friend and how mad would you be at them for not telling you that your husband or your wife is screwing around with somebody else how mad can you possibly be at your friend they don't have to intervene in that shit they could just whatever you would you be mad at that i mean i think i think i'd be a little bit like man why didn't you tell me you know what i mean hey shot what's going on man welcome to the podcast we're talking about the friend zone and whether or not many women can just be friends and i'm having a good night man absolutely captain james you said yep you'll be mad at the front and you probably have every right too because they didn't tell you this shit they supposed to be your right hand man they supposed to look out for you and shit you know look out for trouble for you and be your lookout and they didn't tell you speak loudly oh that's a good one maybe the best friend was waiting to slip up so they could steal your girl you know what that happens that happens more often than not i'm telling you your best friend is your worst enemy sometimes and they're waiting for you to slip the fuck up so they could come in like i said think about it and you may not you may not think about it but this is really this is the fucking truth your social media page whether it be facebook insta well in this case facebook right one thing and i'm kind of like veering off a little bit but it's still within the realm a lot of people put too much of their relationship business on facebook i promise you this guys if you're one of those people that put your relationship on facebook you're in trouble already but boss you said i think it's even more worse when it's your brother i have for oh no if your brother is screwing your what no yo thanksgiving is going to be very empty next year if that happens let me get back on track that not every tyler perry has that premise oh you're screwing around with my brother and sister tyler perry he's the perfect example and he highlights the worst of black people i swear to god look oh he has white cast members but that's not the point look if you're on social media and you always put everything that's happening in your relationship just know this that there is always somebody on your friend list waiting for you to fuck up when you fuck up i promise you herb inbox or his inbox is going to be full as soon as you put single on your facebook page somebody on your list is and right now i'm telling you as devious as this may sound there is somebody on your friend that's waiting for you to mess up i can tell you right now it's possible that all of all the friends that i have on my facebook page as far as like females they're waiting for me to break up because that could be their opportunity to come in and save the day be the shoulder to the right on the dick like the shoulder to lay on the dick the right on kind of deal i sooby said you said anything yeah anything um it could be your if you're talking about like facebook instagram snap anything somebody is waiting in line for their turn people all right that's why me and my wife we do not entertain our relationship on a what on a broad audience we don't do that like we'll post pictures or some of our good times but there's never been a time where i posted about an argument a fight a disagreement unless it's a playful disagreement but nothing serious to entertain people into thinking that he's going to get a divorce i'm gonna scoop him up or she's going to get a divorce i'm gonna have my turn next don't do that don't do that because i promise you somebody is waiting at the back to hit so um this next one this is by whatever the fuck that name is i'm not reading that says my best friend in high school had a crush on this girl she's very very obviously was not interested in him but he just wouldn't hear it from anyone who told him all right sooby you said i'm waiting for someone to slip up you see what i mean people perfect example right there this man is on the prowl and he's waiting to slip up don't drop names who's dropping names i said you ready to slip up oh okay i know i'm picking up what you put oh i'm picking up what you're putting down don't worry your secret is safe with me don't worry about it all right let me finish this up though um now again the dude was stupid he didn't want to hear nothing or anything about the girl not being interested in him because he thought that he had it in the bag anyway peak cringe was after she and her boyfriend broke up and he publicly serenaded her at a party singing lean on me that is the worst song you can sing to a woman to serenade her because lean on me the song was not about getting in love with somebody it was about helping your fellow man when they're down this man decides to sing lean on me to get pussy lean on me get the fuck out of here you could have picked the worst song to fucking sing lean on them more like jump on them slap them that's crazy no i've never heard somebody get serenaded by that song because lean on me is not a love song in that instance it's a platonic love song in a sense that somebody hasn't yet they need a shoulder to cry on the carry on not to addict the right on that is the wrong song my guy you are just a god damn it i swear to god listen if you want to serenade a woman or a man or whatever is your preference pick the right song don't sit there and try to serenade a girl by singing oops i did it again and what content does that make sense and don't all right next story that should that should hurt my head just reading that jesus i i i i i i think it gets worse um let me see see if i can find another story let me see hold on let me see how much time i got because once i hit that one hour threshold i got like nine minutes this episode went kind of fast let's see if i find some more stories because uh that last one was sad lean on me all right captain you said i think i'm gonna change my name to lean on me don't do it lean on me oh man please don't please don't captain lean yo your name is captain lean for now one because people know where to turn up when uh when they need a shoulder to cry on sure you're going to be like what's your name lean on me captain lean at your service hold on let me find another story to uh yeah this is a long ass story man god damn all right i'm gonna try to break down this one this is uh god damn lean on me all right this guy says or this person says uh their name is summon says summon says okay like simon says um he said he dated this girl online for four months online for four months have to been logged this and they probably live on the same damn block um skype text video i at least made sure it wasn't a dude because you got to make sure that right i guess the whole nine yards my last year in college so i graduate everything is awesome job prospects girlfriend graduated fucking gold i guess life is going very well for this guy well i guess so so we talked and planned a get together since it's riskier for women i plan on flying over there and staying a week in a hotel oh my god he flew he flew to this woman please tell me please tell me he didn't fly over there and got friends please tell me that he did not do that okay um he get up he um he get up at 3 a.m now the flight arrives at 8 a.m her time we meet up i met her mom she was 19 i think was 22 not the mom the daughter all right the girl we have to emphasize that it's gonna be creepy um we hung out we got to see a ton of sights had a great time together i kissed her off i mean i kissed her off at the train station i go back to my hotel i wake up at 3 a.m their time for unknown reasons i have a text for five minutes ago and it reads more or less i'm not ready to be in the relationship it's not you it's me let's be friends people this man flew halfway across the country for this woman met her family everything kissed at the train station and said let's just be friends and the name of biz markey i would have flipped the fuck out there are guys out there even women that are going there they're buying plane tickets fly halfway across the country halfway across the world to meet someone to only either get catfished or to be friend zoned there's more to this unfortunately it says well great six more days here he's stuck there for six four days and he's not getting anything so we spent an awkward week together hanging out as friends okay please i hope this has a good ending except she led me back to the hotel one night and she wanted me to fondle her oh wow which i did because i was a thirsty idiot we had a goodbye where i said i come back to see her sometime and she said you better and then she ghosted at me when i got to my place it's been eight years what is going on she was playing this dude like a fiddle and yes shot friends can go a long way or i could just stay friends but did you just hear what just happened she she was there for a week he was there for a week right after the point when she said let's be friends she goes back to his hotel he gets a little handy because she wants him to fondle her and then like and then he said he was gonna come back and then didn't even speak to him ever again for eight years now he says that now he's happily married to a much better woman but i still have no idea what the fuck was going on there but it makes for a good story no man it just makes you're just a fiddle it makes for a very sad ass story because she sat there played you she elect she's like hey you can touch my little pepperonis and everything will be okay and then you know that's it no you've been played you she even came back to the hotel and all you did was fondle what are you like 15 and then she ghost you for eight years i'm glad he got married though that to me he flew halfway across the country for this girl just to touch her booby and then leave and get ghosted for eight years endless simp at red lobster people endless simp all right now the next story here let me see jeez i can't i can't i can't all right now endless simp all right um all right this guy this person said um let me see is this in relation to uh let me see all right this person just said out of nowhere god all the times i thought that being there for her or giving her a shoulder to cry on what's going to make a woman's pussy wet i'd love to be 18 again knowing that the exact opposite is true and easier wow all right next story let me see what else there's gotta be another one um let me see uh all right this person said spent about a year after a girl in high school he chased her for a whole school year she wasn't having it so i said that's that just leave it alone and in that moment in time my attitude towards having romantic sediment for a girl that only has platonic sediment towards me changed never got friends on the game because since then i pretty much realized you have two choices number one except that it's not going anywhere and number two it's true the ultimatum that there's is a romantic sediment and a attraction going on admit that you can't live a lie and be prepared for either outcome this man right here understands the assignment he knows when they can see the feet because the longer you pursue the longer you are missing out on chances of being with even better people because you're sitting there pursuing someone who only sees you as a friend and nothing more you could have wasted one two three four five years chasing one person one person where you have in that time frame missed out on so many opportunities and then you get friends on people time doesn't have receipts you do not get that time back captain jay you said you don't ever give up so let me ask you captain what is the longest amount of time you chased after one woman i want to hear it you said don't give up right please tell me you didn't chase one woman for like five years because then i'm gonna clown you at work tomorrow so tell me how long you chased after one person in fact anybody in the chat right now tell me what is the longest you chased after one person and what was the outcome to were you friendzoned or did it actually work you guys became something oh you said you were 13 captain okay you were 13 how long did you chase after the girl though that's the main question all right years oh you didn't give a number so i'm gonna say about five years at least you chased this person all right shot you said you always score when i you i always score when i go after it this man's got he's got the right idea zuby says 10 years on and off gaps in between oh captain he said was 13 years ago and boss you said you chased the girl for two weeks zuby you said you gave up last year all right two weeks you see boss it was like listen i'm giving it two weeks i'm not spending an eternity chasing one girl ultimate them or nothing like what's happening i'm leaving it alone all right listen the pursuit of happiness pursue what makes you happy but man i'm not chasing after someone for 10 15 20 years that's crazy two weeks is an absolute good amount of time i think to try to break open the box where does she like you or do not like you i think that's i think that's uh two weeks is more than enough time i think um to test that water i i think so all right but yeah this person spent a year in high school but now he learned his lesson all right shot you said if a female is interested in you you got to show that show that you're not interested but still give the eyes okay so basically playing hard to get hey let me tell you something that hard to get shit women are not waiting anymore or that hard to get shit you got to understand the women are the prey and want to be hunting there's not a lot of women hunting men you understand what i'm saying all right boss you said i know it's all topic but what is your opinion on getting back with your ex whoo hey hun you want to chime in on this one what is your opinion on when it comes to trying to get back to your ex i'm not trying to insinuate anything with my wife but again she's a woman i like a woman perspective but real quick okay she said depends all right now you got to understand one thing x right that means it's done a lot of people get back together with their ex because of the history there's history and you got to understand not everything in the relationship is going to be bad right like for example oh congratulations like for example let's say i'm not married right i was divorced before or they're absolutely a baby kids kids should not be weaponized as a reason to go back to someone or hold someone hostage absolutely not but i was married once before and divorced i was married for five years before let's just say god forbid me and my current wife gets divorced and it's like hey do i go back to my ex i haven't spoken to my ex since the court date back in 2012 i have no intention on finding this woman talking to this woman or anything and i have no ill will we have just completely moved on we haven't even had kids together we moved on it depends on the history now everything with her wasn't bad but the way it ended it's it's some traumas to it no physical traumas though more like mental and uh emotional shit no story short it's circumstantial boss like it depends on why did you guys break up the history to which you guys shared and like shot mention kids kids don't weaponize the kids i'm telling you right now don't use the what don't use kids as a weapon or a tool to try to get back when an ex or something like that is bad enough the kids didn't even ask to be into this world and now they got to deal with the bullshit of two adults don't weaponize the kids but going back to your ex is circumstantial that depends on if they're still feelings and history always the history all right i think i'm going to read one more story let's see whoo okay here's one i got one all right subi said donate the kids to charity um you know goodwill bins are always not completely full i guess you could throw the kid in the fucking goodwill bin i'm pretty sure somebody get a nice penny or just have them displayed next to the fucking lamp with the bandaid on it all right this story right here um somebody wrote this story here i didn't tell it i wanted to marry her but yeah i love you on the first date was inappropriate oh no captain james pizza hut no so this guy told her i love you on the first date people that is dangerous work you're gonna creep people out there's more to the story though on the first day no i did not oh our first sexual encounter that's a whole story listen i'm transparent like i tell you right now i'll tell you about me i i know shame here a shot you say even started crying when i took her home uh can i get me this is i'm not really what the fuck that's terrible what are you let me finish the story before i die all right um on the drive back to l.a. from palm spring she was frustrated because i had whiskey dick the evening before and she told me how good her job was uh i don't know if i should invite this guy diverse guy uh let me get the first guy i'm gonna get him in here what's going on diverse guy that bro you want to do match yeah let's do a match man you're actually on a podcast right now that's going to be um distributed on spotify we're talking about uh the friend zone and whether or not men and women could be friends actually i'm glad you on here i got somebody yeah let me accept the battle real quick let me get your um well first of all how you doing tonight dude i'm doing well man that's a uh that's a topic that i definitely have a a strong opinion about let's go all right die first guys on the show right now we got somebody live what is your opinion on the friend zone and whether or not can men and women be friends um they can definitely be friends but usually the dude in this situation has uh is basically just uh sitting back in the cut waiting for that moment you know i mean you usually hope it's if it's like a lot of times you know sometimes a girl in the situation is the same but in my opinion uh yeah i have this conversation with um like my ex-wife when we first got together you know she had a lot of guy friends you know i mean that's that's that's my view on it and it's uh you know my my view is uh we've had i just had the conversation a couple days ago with a a female friend of mine and another gentleman we were both sitting there talking and you know yeah when people when people are when people are keeping it real that's usually uh you know that's usually what it was what it's what it's up in that situation i got you i got you let me ask you this too um how long i mean i'm pretty sure growing up you had like female friends and stuff like that like have you ever do you do you have a female best friend no no okay i mean i have i have i have yeah okay but we got married oh i mean so oh okay so oh okay so wait wait wait so hold on let me drag this little puzzle piece real quick so you guys i'm gonna take a stab and say that you guys grew up together well no okay i didn't i met her i met her in high school so okay so kind of a lot of a lot of areas yeah we grew up together but yeah i was straight out of high school and so is she when we met nice nice so i mean that basically so how long after you guys met high school how long it took for you guys to get together and get married um some months and then it was like before we got to like you know started dating or whatever and then uh was like a year and a half two years before we got when we got married okay we're we're no longer together either so that's you know i mean i'm sorry ahead that's probably not it's all good best part probably part of the equation that uh it needs to be shared too but like growing like going through life you know i mean i've had friends but like it's always been in not knowing this at all at the time you know i mean like they either wanted more or i wanted more you just see what i'm saying i just sit back in the cut and you're just the dude that like takes the phone calls listens to her about how she got dumped or whatever else is going on in her life and the whole time you're just sitting there waiting like whether it's consciously or subconsciously like that's you know yeah yeah yeah because i mean in life too sometimes we become the rebound person you know um like i've always heard the phrase of shoulder the cryo and the dick to ride on kind of feel you know what i mean and nobody really wants to be that guy yeah nobody wants to be that guy but some guys want to be that that guy um guys want to be that guy some guys that's you know i mean that's their whole that's how they they played the nice guy stuff like oh you know what i mean and then is their crown on their shoulder they're pushing their head down you know what i mean i was about to do that just for two i was about to do that but that's real dude no it's absolutely real i see that's what we're kind of talking about like can many women be friends because a lot of people say that yes but men have intentions like there's even women that can have intentions too like what it is most likely no you're right you're absolutely right most likely it's the dude with that you know i mean because that's just dudes you know what i mean but there's a lot of women that it's the same you know i mean like they know you're in a relationship like oh but we're just friends you know what i mean but like they'll answer your phone call they'll give you a ride whenever you know what i mean they're always there yep like that's usually like there's usually a ulterior motive usually same with the dude because it's woven in our DNA to be attracted to the opposite sex that's just what it is you know what i mean and it's kind of hard man let's say it's kind of hard like i was telling a boss nine five if you're growing up with a female friend it's like having your hands tied behind your back and you're just trying to you're trying to break free to get into that urge but it's hard because it's like um you know it can make or break the friendship and could ultimately like destroy the friendship in some cases so it's kind of hard you know it is definitely and then like when you're the dude that gets put in the friend zone and then they like you say that like all the time like oh we're friends we're you know i mean like i had a buddy that that happened to him all the time because he's he's super he's a super nice guy but there's a reason he's so nice i mean like he's cool anyway and he's a nice guy you know i mean because that's how he was raised but like he's really nice to certain individuals you know i mean and then he always gets friend zoned like that and then just watching and talking to him afterwards like he's always saddened upset about it you know i mean but it's like bro you you keep setting yourself up for that you know i mean like i know it's it's probably just his approach he has the same approach not realizing that every woman is different you know what i mean that that that one approach that that magic trick doesn't work with everybody and dude it's the wimp certain women will take that and manipulate and use that to their fullest advantage and that's what usually ends up happening to the dude he like gets ran over and like you know i mean over and over and over like i mean but he doesn't he doesn't change it like he's like you just said he hasn't changed it up because the thing about it is at the end of the day he he gets fed like he eats just you know i mean just not as often or as consistently as some other people you know what i mean but she's the one that's eating off because she's gonna be like he's a simp i'm gonna go to this place he's gonna take me to this place i'm gonna promise him this and i'll shout out the kd that caught me the black adam samla i've heard that many times growing up i'm not jewish but i kind of look like that guy but whatever but back to what i was talking about why don't bro i i didn't i didn't hear it or even see it until he just said it so shalom shalom shalom brother shalom i'm sure you're not jewish like this i don't i'm not i don't have the yarmico on so i i'm not even going to say it play myself but uh but um yeah but um yeah she she will take advantage of him and yeah that could go on for god knows a long time until maybe somebody gets in his head and tell him like what are you doing you know what i mean and then he's what i'm saying about him eating is he gets to spend the time with him and then it for whatever things things fall in place and then he gets that one wonderful evening of magic that he's been waiting for the entire time you know what i mean you know you see what i'm saying about eating like he gets he gets so he gets out and usually yeah sometimes but then sometimes it really don't like this one girl's man got out of prison you know i mean and it was all sad and it was all bad for that you know i mean right because he was hoping to like do all those things before he got out and then yeah so yeah but it's real like it's it's difficult but i do believe that women and men can be friends i've had many women friends that there's no nothing underlying but if you ask me in a separate room without them like would i absolutely yeah i mean it's it's very much possible but like you said there's always in most cases or more cases than not in ulterior motive but i i think people could have enough restraint to just be friends with the opposite sex especially at work and stuff like that i can't speak for people that work at dominoes and pizza hunt because that place be wild but other places um yeah but fast food places we've been there oh yeah because you're young you're younger you know i mean the thing is that's what separates us from freaking lions and you know like like animals you know i mean we don't have to act on those things like do a lot of people i mean yeah that's why you know bars are full on the weekends with college kids you know i mean trying you know all that ego testosterone and shit you know i mean but i push their luck yep yeah but i'm just saying like it's that's what separates us we have a brain we can utilize that we don't have to be we're not oh we don't have to be cavemen anymore man you know me yeah but some of us still think like cavemen but um well great up dude and that's you said it already man it's it's in our dna in our dna you said we're attracted to we're attracted to women who can breed our children like it's way deep like we don't even realize it you know i mean like the hips the thighs like birth-bearing women like that's what men are attracted to it goes you know i mean like it was in it put in us you know be fruitful and multiply like you know i'm saying like that yeah absolutely definitely hit it on the nail i'm gonna finish this story right here because i'm going over reddit and i'm reading some uh some cringe-worthy friend zone stories and i left off on this one um this guy told her on the first day that he loved her and he said on the drive back to l.a. from palm spring she was frustrated because he had whiskey dick uh the evening before she told me how good her job was and if i wanted to be a guard all life she said it was such disdain and disrespect like it was disgusting or something but yeah looking back i think i dodged a bullet there i don't know i mean maybe he did maybe he didn't but you know what hey that's why i like in life you got to crush a few rocks to find that diamond perhaps and maybe the whiskey dick probably did save his probably did save him from something um i don't know the story here if nothing it could have been chlamydia it saved him from you know can you imagine that because it's real too a disease saving your life i mean they could have possibly she could have had some shit you know what i mean sometimes you're you're mine like we may we don't listen to our conscience we don't listen to ourselves but sometimes our conscience is trying to save us for something but we always sometimes think the opposite so i got another story listen to our guts that that's yeah that's exactly it's survival mechanisms you know i mean if we go with our gut instinct yeah but a lot of times we think with that little way down yep yeah absolutely real and i got one more story here um this person wrote the group i chose at um when i was in high school had this one chick now she was pretty good looking first day of school a buddy of mine asked her for her number shot down instantaneously now he ended up having to sit next to her in one of our elective unlucky bastards one of the weird courses he still had feelings for her until i told him about the time i dated her he had a newfound hatred for her afterwards after that cluster fuck of a story now a few weeks later she asked him out shot him down instantaneously i feel kind of like a dick but also proud that i spared him the heartbreak she would have bought him that's bros looking out for bros i i've read a similar story to that earlier like hey listen there was a story i read that a guy um like a guy like this girl and his friend knew this but the girl like hit like the friend and the friend was like no because my buddy likes you that's it now that's bros looking out for bros and you don't see that very often let me ask you this one question before we wrap it up um if for example your whoever your whiff right was cheating on you your best friend sees this and doesn't tell you he sees oh he has all mounting evidence that she's cheating on you but doesn't tell you anything not your best friend hmm thank you and that's what one of my executive producers said if your best friend sees your wife or girlfriend cheating it doesn't tell you anything that's not your best friend i think anybody could agree yeah i mean if that if that's your best friend you definitely need to switch you you need to find new people yeah i mean because that because that dude that dude ain't telling you for what reason because you're gonna get mad at him i don't care like i straight up the stuff like that's happening to me like i had this dude that i worked with i thought we were friends you know i mean i was cool i mean i invited the dude and his wife and stuff to my house yeah he goes to the bathroom she starts grabbing like starts rubbing my and trying to like get up you know i mean i told him i told him she did that he got pissed off at me and she flipped it all around i said i was hitting on her i'm like i said man here i said i said i knew she was bad news bro and that's cool if that's what ends our relationship awesome but just know what i said fast forward years later i see him at the gas i see him at the gas station whatever like yo what's up dude and um she and one of his homeboys you know i mean and they weren't together no more dude with three kids and this woman and she did that what she was trying to do to me his other homeboy they took full advantage of that and hit that when he walked in on them doing that and that relationship so man what's saying like where's he at now though do you speak to him or like i don't i don't see him and stuff like we worked together back in the day but like you know i mean he's uh taking care of three kids by himself last i knew you know i don't know if you believe in karma but man had he just listened to you at that particular point in time things could have potentially been different maybe and i straight up told him that i'm like it's cool bro you want to be mad at me for that cool more power to you i told my wife about it at the time that didn't that's not what ended our relationship my alcoholism and other stuff ended my relationship that's a story for another time but yeah i definitely believe in karma man and i definitely believe the good you put in the earth the good you put in the world the good you get out so a little bit of Buddhism a little bit of you mean all that like it's all like yeah for real i'm marie thanks thanks so much i'm just in here on a podcast with a a new found friend so thank you so much lord i appreciate that man and thank you you know i i tend to let the universe work itself out the way it should sometimes though i will get mad get angry but as i get older i'm just like you know i take a breath and i'm like all right bet i'm gonna let that handle itself and more times than not it does and i just sit there every time it does i don't know every time it does i'm very experienced there for my experience that's exactly what i'm still i still have anger stuff you know mean but when i was younger it was way worse yeah you know mean like i you get pissed off about all kinds of shit like because that's my like growing up you know it was like i grew up with John Wayne and you know i mean like those those are like the role models you know what i mean like okay you don't and you don't talk about it you just you know punch it out you know what i mean like that that didn't work well for me so then i was placed in positions in places that uh you know uh we're not good i've been to the penitentiary you know i mean like hey look at that dude you get that you get the cash video yeah i appreciate that yeah so like life experience itself it's i call it the natural order it will all work itself out you know i mean like i don't have to interject me into that situation because i'm the one that'll get the consequence just watch it work itself out you mean and it always does it does yeah just trust the process that's the term i hear a lot just trust the process but hey man i do appreciate you being on the show um follow me i'll definitely follow you back i do this show i'm definitely gonna follow you my man i do this show called absolutely you're very welcome i do this show about roughly three four or five times it depends each week um the show eventually goes on spotify the same night so you can always hear back on the show wherever you listen to podcasts and this is just a general um society a culture podcast i cover every and anything there's no one topic and if you join me on my friday show which is uh one of my favorite shows called the round table that i do every friday it's a no-hose bar we talk about everything that people put on the table whether they want to unleash their anger from the work week or just put it all out there we just let people just be them that's what's up so hopefully i'll see you this Friday yeah yeah i'll definitely try to be there like if you look at the name like that's not my real name obviously this is diverse guy that's all good i've like i just told you like where i've been you know name but from that from that place and from being like um addicted to things and like utilizing other things i turned all that around and uh drug and alcohol counselors you know i mean like all so turned it all into positive stuff so like i've been through a lot of my life and you know 47 but uh it's awesome to make sure and i think everything happens reason and uh you know i mean there's a reason you pushed accept instead of decline i don't know what that was because most people pushed decline i just have to do 30 battles and you're one of the people i met so i appreciate it but i definitely have a opinion about a lot of stuff and it's based all off of my life experiences and uh you know oh you'll be a great asset to the show too in terms of like life stories depending on what the topics and stuff are because you've been there done that from a to z been around every single block so yeah i would definitely love to see you on many shows to come if you get the chance if not even if you stop by for a few seconds and say hello i'll take that as well man but it was it's a pleasure work uh talking to you tonight especially about this topic and your insight man much appreciate i hope to see you again Austin your name's Austin yep i go by Austin right on yeah my my name's Jeremy that's like my real name so it's nice meeting you Austin i appreciate it absolutely yeah absolutely it was nice to you as well and hope to see you um this Friday um there's no show tomorrow so but there will be one on Friday and and definitely give us your insight and your wisdom and your experiences i'm pretty sure it will go very well with the show and what the topics are that come down so absolutely all right oh my man hey thanks a lot dude i appreciate it thanks for beating me twice appreciate it it's all good man hey keep battling keep battling all right man have a good one all right you too okay yeah yeah absolutely see have a good night jerry yep dude all right folks so before i wrap up the show that was jerry Jeremy really cool dude very open in terms of talking to somebody he does not know you understand what i'm saying that's how you know like that's somebody that like that doesn't bottle his shit up anymore he puts it out there he lets you know what he's about no frills this is me and all of my full and i appreciate him coming on to the show um yeah it's jerry jerry is jerry for short man you know geroam jerry is jerry short or jerry we're gonna call him jerry all right so jerry god that's just such a creepy name jerry because it reminds me of the subway guy anyway i saw that shit that you wrote in the text to i'm gonna leave it at that anyway oh my god what the fuck are y'all writing up there and boss yeah absolutely um definitely really cool respectable guy i'm hoping to see i'm gonna show to um really soon again before i wrap up tonight um there was a scheduled show for tomorrow but i have a social gathering to go to all right so i will not be on the show um i'm not promoting a new movie coming promoting your new movie coming out uh samler joke huh all right yeah i get it all right i look like adam stanler yes i've heard it many times before um i have no jewish lineage i think i do but nonetheless um yes in the chat but i'm not adam stanler but somebody else said that above too shout out to you because i've heard it before um but again i will be gone tomorrow um they will not be a show tomorrow but there will be a round table episode on friday and round table episodes are by far my favorite so anyway thank you soupy snack um diverse guy who is just live on the show thank you very much boss 95 captain james um shot and everybody else that joined on the show there's so many names that come by um that sometimes i can't even always catch yes i'm not that guy pound all right but anyway thanks for joining stay tuned for um join me on the friday round table episode captain james round table at the four by 36 ha no it's not i swear to god they bet not do that i swear to god they bet not pull that bullshit i hope it's not true but knowing the place we would not be surprised do a podcast tomorrow you think i'm gonna do a podcast at the party tomorrow hell no absolutely not anyway at boss have a good night as well i'm going off i'm done i one more you said captain james you just been a focus on steering the plane yeah just don't fly it into the place okay please thank you and no and no drunk airplane jokes either at the thing james kareel i'm gonna boot you over to the fucking other table where they do the dishes and shit all right anyway have a good night we'll do this again next time stay tuned for friday's episode hope to see you all there all right peace out see you later bye
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