The Killer B's: Joel Blank & Jeremy Branham
12/05 Hour 2 - Can the Texans Make a “Push” After the Bye?
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For the first time I get to mark what on the chalkboard of Brian was right. Yeah, we usually keep that stuff off the air. Never give love to the producer. Radio 101. I think that makes me talented. Talent greater than producer always. Can you get us some coffee, Brian? If I'm not asking about that, all right, which teams that are currently out of the NFL playoff picture will make the playoffs have the best chance to make the playoffs 7, 1, 3, 7, 8, 0 ESPN. Who are some teams that are on your radar blanks? I think the one that the the Texans are going to play coming off the by. I think the Miami Dolphins if to as healthy, I think they've got a chance. I mean, as much as I've been saying that I thought off season long, the the Bengals were going to find a way to sneak in. I think the Dolphins to me are a team offensively that no one really wants to see unless it's cold outside. But I think that they have a chance to sneak in because their offense can put up a ton of points down the stretch if to as healthy. And I think that's a scary team to keep an eye on. They do have a road to ho two and a half back in the of the playoffs because right now Baltimore and Denver tied for the six seed. So whoever loses that tiebreakers in the seven seats, the seven seat right now is Denver. They're eight and five. So Miami's two and a half back. They've played 12 games or two and a half back with five to play Denver has four to play. Miami schedule is pretty soft though. They have the Jets twice. They play at Houston, play San Francisco, then at Cleveland and then they finished the season with the Jets. So let's say they go four and one there that puts them at a nine and eight record is nine and eight enough. I think it is. I don't know what Denver and Denver is. They're already at eight with the Broncos and the Chargers already at eight wins. You got to I think they get both both those teams get the 10 and they're probably out. But I do like that. I would put the dart throw at the dolphins. I think they're very live. But if gun to head, I don't think they get in they would I don't think they go nine and out nine and eight. Missed by a game. What's the the first tiebreaker? If you don't play head to head is is confidential. I'm assuming it's not in division. Yeah. Denver's Denver conference right now is four and four Miami's four and four. So Miami if they finish strong and Denver does not finish strong, you would think that Miami would jump them especially since that four and one stretch the five games only one is outside the conference. So there'd be a lot of you they'd be able to pad that tiebreaker and you would be winning a most of those games Denver'd be losing most of their games Denver. All of the rest of Denver's games are in the conference too. But so if they're losing Miami's winning, you think Miami will only have to tie Denver to jump them. It's Denver's right schedule. I mean, they play the Colts at home, which if the Colts want to be a playoff team, that might be a must win for the Colts this week, actually probably have to win out at this point. They might have one more loss. If Miami has one more loss, I think the Colts have one more loss because the Colts have a better record than Miami. They're six and seven versus five. Okay. I'm thinking division, but you're right. Yeah. For the wild car, they could have one more. Now you like you've got to beat Denver though, like the one loss can't be Denver. You can lose one along the way, just one, no more than one, but it can't be to Denver. Denver's got Colts at chargers at since he home for Kansas City. So like that's not. Okay. That's tough. Kansas City. The last week though, they're not going to have anything to play for. Maybe. I mean, there are only one game up on Buffalo right now. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I guess it's possible. My assumption is they're not going to have anything to play for. But if the one sees on the line, then that changes the math a little bit. See, I think I think Cincinnati's toast at four and eight. I think there are two teams in the AFC that are worth the conversation. I think Miami's one of them. I don't think indies as good a team as Miami, but because they have the one extra win right now, I think that you have to include them in their, their schedules, not that tough either at Denver. Now they have to win the Denver game, then they're home versus Tennessee. They're at the Giants and then they're home for Jacksonville at the end of the year. So it's plausible that Indy could go three and one, maybe even four. Oh, yeah. No, I mean, it is possible. I just looked at it. And I think from the perspective, like you said, as a better team with a better offense with, I think when two is at the helm and they've got those running backs and all those wide receivers, I think Miami's scary. I think that they're, I think they're capable of going on a run to finish the season. The, I mean, do we think they didn't he has a chance to go for now? Who did you say? At Denver, home versus the Titans at the Giants, home versus Jackson. I don't think they win at Denver, so no, that's the only one. The Texans need to be rooting like heck for the Denver Broncos. Yeah. If Denver wins on Sunday, the division is on the fifth race is a wrap. It's all. Yeah, they're weak from Sunday, right? So it's on the fifth. Oh, sir, right. They're both. Yeah, they're on by this week. I don't think that the, the AFC South has been clenched by a stretch of the imagination. The gauntlet that the Texans are about to face. The Colts biggest, the Colts toughest game is at Denver a week from Sunday. If they win that game, I think that you can be on high alert for the AFC South. I think you're right. Quite frankly. Well, the Texans still have to would do that would have to do their part and lose because I mean, I know they have to lose. I mean, they would have to win twice the Texans would. No, what I'm saying, because of the tiebreaker, I think the Colts have to get 10 wins to pass the tax. It would make that Tennessee. So that means the Colts have to win out. So if you were talking about, yeah, I know, I, well, I'm just saying, I agree with your point overall. I just don't think they're going to be Denver. If they go for no, the Texans have to win two games to get to 10, like the Colts would be a 10. Where are they getting to? I mean, you, you would hope Miami and Tennessee are targeting that Miami games Matt week, week 15 is going to be huge for the AFC South. Massive for the AFC. So the Texans, they really need to get one of the results, either any losing at Denver or beating Miami home. Did you get one of those? You're probably good. And if you get two, if you get both of them, it's officially over. Yeah, it's toast. It's over. All right. So like those are the only two teams that I think can push from outside of the AFC into the AFC. Yeah, my conference, I had one in each conference. I had Miami in the AFC and I had Tampa in the NFC now Tampa for a wild card or Tampa for a just to get in David for the, I think because we don't know we talked about yesterday with Kirk Cousins, you know, and, and Lee just said, dead arm Kirk Cousins. If Kirk Cousins continues to be the guy and he falters regardless of whether they play Pennics or not, I think that that could cause a lot of strife for the, for the Falcons. And I think the, the, the, the, the, the Buccaneers have played well enough all year to where they could sneak in. I was thinking more of the Kirk Cousins things today. I'm not going to tell you where I was thinking about them, but I was thinking about Kirk Cousins. And I'm not going to tell you where I was thinking about them. I think you got it. I was thinking though about like old veteran players, I was thinking about old veteran players. They could end quickly. Like it could be a snap of the fan. And I think the guy that I actually like thought of, whatever, I was thinking to Kirk Cousins in a setting that I will not relay to you was Jose Abreu, like Jose Abreu, like in a snap. It was toast. Like is it out of the realm of possibility that Kirk Cousins at a snap of a finger's done zone. And he is what? 36, he's older. I think he's 35 and he's coming off significant injury. I was trying to think of him. Now he did look good early in the year though. Was there an NFL quarterback like that? Um, I mean, Rogers kind of kind of, but that was the Achilles too. But I'm just thinking is there, Flacko, because Flacko came back, so you can't take it. Hey, man. He was one year. He was shot. They were in Denver. They were talking about playing Brock Osweiler on the playoffs over Peyton, because he was so shocked. And Osweiler did start for what half the year that season? I thought it was like the last four games. Okay. Well, still it was a decent chunk of the season. Yeah. And Rogers was actually playing some pretty bad football even before the Achilles, but everybody just thought it was like, you know, victim of circumstance and it was actually victim of victim. And Rogers, victim of Aaron Rodgers. So I think it's, I think it's possible that he could be washed. Now I think that there are two divisions that you have to look for in the NFC team that's out that could move in. 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I don't know what they're doing. I don't know what they're doing. I don't know what they're doing. I don't know what they're doing. I don't know what they're doing. I don't know what they're doing. E-S-P-N. 97-5. [Music] [Music] You're back with the Killer B's on ESPN 97-5 and 92-5. Live from the Pérotex Community Bank Studios. Here's Joel Blank and Jeremy Branham. Can the Texans make a bush after the box? After the box. 7-1-3-7-8-0-E-S-P-N. You can tell the message after the Jacksonville game was, "Okay, we want to empty the tank and then we will come back after the buy and make a push." DeMico used the word push. CJ Stroud used the word push. Like every single player audio that I saw from the locker room talked about making a push after the buy. The rallying cry before it was buried because of the Aziz al-Shire stuff was that they want to make a push after the buy. Of course they do, right? Any team that's leading the division wants to make the push after the buy but can they? Can the Houston Texans make this push after the buy blinkers? Like they're serious doubts, Jeremy. I really do. I feel like, again, the fact is it's not a push at this point. It's kind of hanging on for dear life against the schedule that we knew while season long was going to be the toughest stretch of games that they're going to face in the shortest amount of time. And the fact is that you're not playing your best football. You lost to Tennessee. You got by Jacksonville. You were supposed to hammer those three teams including Dallas and then move on to this tough stretch looking forward to try and see how you match up against the best teams in the AFC. And instead we were just talking about the fact that they got to hold on for dear life to keep the Colts off of their tails and make sure that they at least finalize the division and that solidify that playoff position position and it's not going to be easy. You lose the quarterback of your defense. Your offensive line has still not been playing great though. They played better against a less than defense in Jacksonville. You have a bunch of stuff that you're still trying to figure out from a pass protection standpoint, the running game. Yeah, it picked up in the second half. It wasn't great in the first half. But overall, there's just been a ton of inconsistencies. And I have serious doubts about this push. Yeah. Well, I think it's important to define push. Like what do you think? I mean, obviously they have, they just want to win every game. Yeah. What do you think is a fair bar for this push? Well, I mean, I think you can look at it from in terms of straight wins and losses or you can look at it from the competitive standpoint. Are they going to be competitive in all three games coming up? Are they going to beat Tennessee for sure? And are they going to get at least one or more wins out of the other three? Yeah. I mean, the push for me would be you got at least go 500 and you got to be competitive in all the games. And you got to show that, you know, your deficiencies of the past, like they finally started scoring in the second half. Again, it's Jacksonville, but we know how bad that's been for the second half of the season. You want to be able to put two halves together. The offense and the defense clicking at the same time. All the things that I've been kind of harping on. I guess in my mind, if I'm defining what a push is, they're competitive in all four games. Yeah. And they win two. See, I could see it going either way. I could see the Texans looking at an 0 and 3 after the buy. I could too. And then all of a sudden that week 18 game carries some pretty massive stakes, depending on what Indy does at the same, and this speaks to the volatility that the Texans have been in the capability of playing with any team that they play, whether it's good team or whether it's bad team. I have a, I have a difficult time seeing the Texans, you know, make a push after the buy in the sense that they just like they go three and one in the last four games, or they're beating these, they're beating Kansas City on the road. They hammer Baltimore at home. I have a tough time seeing that, but I do expect them to be competitive in all these games, like they've shown us all year, all year, all year with the exception of the Minnesota game that they're going to be in these games. They haven't, they haven't been blown out by anybody with the exception of Minnesota, and they've played some good team. They played at Lambo. The Packers have a really good record. They could have won that game. They lost by two. They were up 16 against Detroit that might be the best team in the NFL. Same thing. Whenever you, you look at Buffalo, they beat Buffalo at home. So I, I do think that the Texans will be competitive. If I were to define push, I think that like what would make this year stand out, I think is making the conference championship game, going a step further than you did last year. Because if you go to the division around, you win your first game at home, and then you go play wherever you go play and you lose that, they're not really stacking anything. They're not really building off of it all. Now to play off trips in a road to the division around is, is a feather in the cap. But I think the fan base would be like, okay, just the same old Texans. You know, win a wild card game and lose the division round and we're not in the conference championship game. Like we've never been in franchise history. So whenever I try to define push, and this is relative, I think it'd be different for everybody. For me, it's a, can you make a push to reach unchartered territory? Can you make a push to reach an AFC championship game? Something that has never been done in franchise history. I have a hard time seeing the Texans winning two playoff games. At the same time as I speak from the other side of my mouth. I do think that the Texans can play with anybody in the AFC. I do. I mean, I was saying this the other day about how much I still like their roster. I still love the talent that's on this roster and the ability, especially at key positions to have really, really influential players. I just don't like the fact that they haven't put it all together. I think to your point, if the push includes the postseason, the push to me is anything less than doing what you did last year as a disappointment. If you get to the division around again and lose, well, then it was tolerable. But there's still going to be plenty of people shaking their heads. And the only thing that's going to be acceptable is if you at least get to an AFC championship game. And I think that's a stretch for them. But I do agree with you that they can on their best days. If they're playing the way that we haven't really seen them play all year and put it together, start to finish on both sides of the football, I think that they can play with the best in the AFC. Texture. Have we heard a result of the Azizal Shire? Appeal? No. I think it's coming in two weeks. Another texture of slowing doesn't make adjustments. The Texans might not win the division. I think it actually is in play. It is worrisome. And people have guaranteed like this victory in the AFC South. And I don't think that there's victory in the AFC South. The Azizal Shire suspension has been heard. It's been upheld. Three game suspension for Al Shire. Let's squeeze in Vera real quick. 713-782-3776. Vera, you're in the hive of the bees. What's up, Vera? Hey, guys. I appreciate you letting me call in. I think to add to what Joel said, the push, I think, that term is going to have to happen from starting from the offensive line. I think the much maligned interior offensive line would have to-- I think they did a decent job against Jaguars who aren't really known for their interior defensive push. But the next four weeks would be a great test with Christian Wilkins and Jeffrey Simmons and Muddy BK and Chris Jones. I think it's going to be a great test for the interior offensive line to see. They can stand up if they can keep CJ straight. But that said, CJ, let's-- I think a lot of people have been booing me on social media and others, because when I say CJ has-- I don't even use the word regress, but he definitely did some sort of sophomore slump. So I think if CJ can not turn over the wall and we can-- we can-- that helps that to, of course, the interior offensive line, so if they can do that, the next four games would be a great test. Invaded me, if we are to win the wild card game, we will actually be considering how Baltimore is going right now. We might end up playing Baltimore in the wild card game. So if you know, this would be a great test to see if you can do it twice, right? So I'm going to get your thoughts on it. I'll hand it up and listen. Yeah, let's hit that on the other side. The offensive line. And then also the Stroud aspect too. Have we overstated the Stroud sophomore slump? 7-1-3-7-8-0-3-7-7-6, it's the bees, ESPN 97-5, ESPN 97-2-5. ESPN 97-5. Your child's first step is a big step towards their future. With first step by college invest, every Colorado child born or adopted on or after January 1st, 2020 will receive a free $115 contribution to their college invest college savings account. Plus, we'll match a percentage of your contributions in the coming years, helping you save even more. Enroll today and start your child off on the right foot. Visit ColoradoFirstStep.org to get started and claim your $115 now. With the cold weather incoming, what's the obvious choice for a backyard upgrade? Hint, it's a solo stove. 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