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No, I think, you know, there's everything fans out there that will tell you, like, you know, let's soy marina. And do things like that. But in fairness to you, Dave, and the lads in the Blue Room, if you don't listen to it, you always can tell the people on this channel. If you don't listen to it, go and listen to it, because it's straight down the line. No messing about, you know, it's honesty. It's honesty from start to finish. Steve Murphy says you're alive. Yeah, I know we're alive. I don't know what happened there. We pressed the button to go alive. It didn't do the intro properly. I'm sorry. Okay? I apologize. No doubt, there'd be 40 people in the chat telling me this. And then there'd be an auditority in the comments afterwards, having a go, because I'm wearing a hat. Maybe because I know the sneers are covered some days, because I'm literally doing it. And any other complaints, please follow them into the comments. And I won't give up Alex, really, to be very honest. So, thanks, Steve, for pointing that out. I'll talk to you later, because he'll play Xbox with Steve, who's subscribed. Anyway, I want to start, and I'll come to you, Dave. I was telling you before we come on. You know, you're a foreigner in the fee. Everything, probably the better soy in the fourth half of an hour. But you get beaten for an ill, and your post-match reaction show was done from a public Manchester, where two of the guys, and I apologize, their names always stick to your mind. They leave the game early. They don't look at it enough for this. You know, they're sitting in this bar, they're having the chat, they're recording, they're having a beer. And this lad goes on a 20-minute rant about everything, and where they are, and what they are. And, you know, he basically called them pointless. I want to say well done to that guy, because it was absolutely brilliant. But where are everything, Dave? Was there any truth that Molly was saying? Because I thought there was. Yeah, there's absolutely a lot of truth in that. I'm inclined to agree with almost everything he said, to be honest with you. Excuse me. I think that is, it's been that we've been sleepwalking with this sort of thing for a long time. Not just on dice. I mean, we've spoken several times about, you know, what's fucked up at this football club and why it's gone in the direction it has, ownership and various managers and whatnot. It just, you know, it's interesting because I've been having a lot of chat and debates with our fans and the saying, you know, why bother changing the manager when every single time we do it, we end up in the same situation every time. But that doesn't mean, in my opinion, that doesn't mean you can go and keep the manager just because it's not worked last time. You know, you can't just sit there and just watch the diet style of football we play before scoring four against Wolves. Last night we didn't even go three goals in September. And, you know, I could go off on a rant like he did with Mark. His name is with us. Just after they got out of all traffic there. And he's absolutely spot on. It's, you feel like you're wasting your time a lot when you go and watch everything. And the thing, the reason I think there's a lot of that going around is because they're to say this and maybe tempting fate. But anytime I think of it, they're going to get relegated to the immediate response, which I'm pretty sure you'd say as well, Gav, is that the three sides worse than Evan. And that's why Evan mumbled down. And that's true. But that doesn't make support in us any better. It's not an achievement. It shouldn't be classes in achievement to stay in the Premier League. That sees it upon season. Sean Dice kept his job because he did that, which you didn't client to say. Well, that's cool. It makes sense. We've gone and achieved whatever it's needed to do. He deserves another chance at this. And that's the medical round. This has been the happened with Lampard. You know, it's happened in the manager that we've had going through pretty months and day with more. He's just having one season, the better man. And that's why he's talking about that apathy. That it's come aboard for so, so long now. And as you mentioned here, we have the worst of the managers. Not necessarily in how he is a manager. Because he's made his trade on fighting the allegations. That's what he's done for this career. That's his fault. He's not much better than that. He's not going to manage and take this in a certain way. I'm not calling Everton a massive club, but this is the biggest club that Sean Dice will ever manage. And that nobody else will come in and take him as a manager. Nobody else will come in. You're not going to get him to go through a full emotion or something like that. Or a side that's actually doing half-decent in the Premier League. Everton's going to be the side that he gets to. And he's probably back in the championship. And I feel as if when he speaks, there's an arrogance about the man, which seems to try and justify the absolute shit show that he's set up. And, you know, when you're just tired of it made the way in which he plays, ironically, the game against Wolves there was the first time. And maybe he took it upon themselves. That pissed off with the fella that he actually kicked four or five passes on the ground. Rather than it wouldn't want to carve up Lewin, who's, you know, you don't know what's going on with him. So, you know, we're stuck in the middle of another season. We're approaching the middle of another season where, like, give us 17. Give us the summer. New ground. Hopefully that's when it all changes. But, you know, you still wouldn't put your money on that. Yeah. It's, um, I know we are coming from, you know, it's, it's, Sean Deutsch does feel like he's touring into one of those managers that just, he's, he's an escape artist. Yeah. He basically takes over the mantle of Samarados. That really feels like he is, you know, and I know we are coming from him. He won't get it. He won't be at a bigger club than Everton unless the likes of Elite come up. Right. And yeah, exactly. But more badly struggling. I got Sean Deutsch for the last 10 games of the season. He's basically what I mean. Like that is like a side that's in the shirt, basically. Yeah. That's where he's gone. That's where he's gone. That's where he's going to make. He's going to make himself three or four million quid every eight day in months. Um, but doing this stuff. Yeah. That's what he's going to do. Um, man, you know, uh, with Everton, you know, I was, I was absolutely, honestly, I listened back to this podcast, um, after I listened to it because when I listened to a fourth time, I was like, Jesus, I actually, I was actually worried about it. Right. Cause he sounded so fucking upset, but the words he was using, you know, he was. Yeah. And I would say he is fine. I'd say a few years later. And he was absolutely fine. But the words he was using, um, like people are saying it there, like, um, familiar with that feeling, Dave, I had that feeling for 24 years from 93 to 2017. Now, I don't think it ever got that bad as I never pulled fan, but I kind of think of the Higgs and Gillette area where you're kind of gone, fucking owners are awful. That, that, you know, that after I fight with the manager, I don't, this, you know, this is a manager that won, um, you know, European cups and it was mad. But Matt, when you look at Everton and you look at Deutsch, right, where before we get into this, all, all joking of soil, I suppose they do look like a club that is just, and I hate using this term circling the drain because that's what they look like. And they literally have a, a time here where they go, oh, when we get to this, it'll all be fine. But there's so much more on a football club than a new stadium. You know, to make this be fine. Yeah. When you mentioned it on that Monday show you did with Kev talking about managers potentially getting the sack when the issue of the Everton finance is coming up and saying like, just getting a new stadium isn't an overnight cure for financial problems. And the, the Arsenal example of their move to the Emirates and how long it took them until that cash flow starts to come realize. So it's not just like you open the doors on the Bramley more dogs and everything just, the money just starts pouring in. Um, it's the uncertainty around Everton with the takeover and all of the behind the scene stuff that, you know, has an impact on the pitch, but, you know, shouldn't really like, you know, it's still 11 men kicking a ball and you've got to score more than the other team sort of thing. And how you, how Dutch sets his team up shouldn't be affected by the boardroom level drama. But the whole thing just kind of creates this vortex of uncertainty about Everton. And I, I stopped this season of thinking that they're going to go down because they've just, they've proven year after year that even if it looks bad, they've got enough decent enough players, players that have been there before, guys like Tarkowski that have been in those relegation scraps before. And now this, this squad, a lot of them are battle tested in this specific arena of staying up. And there are some terrible teams in this league, terrible teams in this league. So like, I, I don't, I don't envy a Dave having to go on and do post-match shows talking about that. Cause it's, it's tough enough going on and doing it after a three, three draw at Newcastle play, you know, let alone going on after four nil defeats that seems like United, but like it's just presumably, and hopefully, you know, Dave, you can give us some, some insight into maybe some of the things are going on in the background, but presumably there's going to be some light at the end of the tunnel coming for Everton, at least at the boardroom level of getting, you know, getting rid of Machiré and having somebody there that wants to own the club that actually has a little bit of vision and, you know, wants to be there sort of thing. And it'll write the ship for them, but I mean, that result yesterday is huge. It's like, I think it can be overstated how big that, that three points was yesterday. Cause I took a little peek at the Everton schedule coming up and, oh. Yeah, it's, it's, it's an horrendous run of fixtures, you know, and, and they really needed to win that. Cause I could make an argument, everyone don't pick up another point until January the 5th. I could actually make an argument that that could happen. And look, Dave, Matt mentioned something very interesting there. And I know to live up all podcast, we're on and people are talking about everything, but even everything gets done, I want, I want to know about it. But Dave, we talk about what's going on in the background. To me, looking from the outside, it's literally like nobody's in charge. Right? Because if anyone's in charge, they're looking at that manager and they're going, he has to go. He has to go, I agree with Matt, the players are battling her and he's battling her. I agree with you though, this sort of arrogance, you know, like he's the answer to everybody's problems or everything. And you're looking at them. Yeah. Really? Okay. You kept them up last season. There was points deduction. You wouldn't be in fairly safe. I don't know, 48 points, I think. But why aren't you kicking on? And, and, and even, and don't get me wrong, those financial problems there. But you've brought in some players. Why isn't the standard of the football you're playing improved or why aren't you better at what you want to do? Cause they seem to be regressing in that. But outside of that, David, like there's nobody in charge. Did you like everyone's gone? Listen, give us a ring when the stadium opens and we'll see where we are. That's what it feels like to me. No, that's absolutely right. Look, from the inside out to the outside, that's exactly the situation. I think you're not, you know, you've just got to be thinking about it the way in which you've described that with Sean Dice. Because the way in which he talks, the way in which he publicly shows himself off to, to fans and obviously everybody else when they see all of his interviews and whatnot. There's, there's an arrogance there and that arrogance exists because there's nobody there to sack him. He appears to me in many of our fans that he's, he's, he's, he's not going to get sacked up to the point of where you're getting beat ridiculously to nail every single game with you know, many people smile at that thinking that is actually possible the way I haven't played underneath him. But he probably has an excuse lined up because we're saying it's around his running games. So he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he has that already as well. Yeah. He's a, he's a manager of that ilk. He's one of the, and you, you mentioned some allodice there. I mean, you know, the, the, the remarkable comparisons between those two. And we could talk about all night the way in which some allodice made his living. And you're showing dice is very much that, that sort of side of, of what managers do in, in football and as to sort of put out fires and try and keep people in a league that they've caught the club in charge of. But to go back to your, your, your question and your points about why I haven't been kicking on. This is the best squad. This is really sad. Everyone listening to this will find this really sad. This is the best squad we've had in several years. And because we actually performed, it brought some positive players in. You'll, you'll probably see him or, well, he will see him on, on Saturday. Obviously taught to know to me what you think of him, but, and I, we've got there is a bag of tricks and he's exactly what any team that's struggling, any team that's watching. Well, football, he's the type that you want there because he stands out. He's like, you're completely different than anybody else we've got on that pitch. We sat in there. He's by far being our best player. We went inside Mangala from Aston Villa, him and a just a guy of any played alongside the two or the thing, half a dozen times. That's the 14 games. And they are heading shoulders. The three of us, if you're not watched the Everton all season and you watch that game, or if you watch any game where they're the midfield duo, you'll be looking at thinking, it's, it's just an assumption that, you know, you don't even look at it twice. They're the pair, that's essential midfield pair that you'd start every game. Nonetheless, Sean Deish has kept Mangala on the bench a lot. Just a guy, he's had to do a lot of it on his own. And this, what you said initially, sort of the nuclear, the nucleus of all of this, with Sean Deish, is that, okay, if any of us in our, in our, in, in our, jobs, in our lives, there's every chance that you sort of down to us a little bit, if you know you're not going to lose your job. And obviously withstanding, not withstanding what job you've got. But I know I'd do it. I know if I could sort of get off it, get off where early, because the boss isn't in. I'd probably do it. And this feels the situation with Sean Deish. Everything he comes out and says, he was criticizing fans. He was going through that whole narrative that you hear from a manager. That is basically on his way out. There's just nobody there to sort of pull the trigger on him. And whilst there's nobody there, that is why you are rolling the dice once again to sustain the league. And the point Matt made there, completely agree with, in, you know, Everton will stay up. The Premier League will catch you at some point. It might not be this season, but Everton have been treading water for several seasons. Now you've seen three campaigns. We've had to stay up on the final day or the penalty of the final day of the season. We've had to go and do that. This year, the last season, everyone's assuming what the bottom three were, which it turned out, it turned out to be in. We're leaving only one of the three, the sort of at the fight a little bit. This season, possibly a little bit different to think less. They'll probably kick on a bit because they've gone and got a new manager in. Lo and behold, that is what Everton should be doing. And, you know, they didn't look like a sore thumb because we haven't gone and done it. The Premier League will catch you up at some point. You guys will know that on the other end of the table. You'll know that that division doesn't suffer too many for long. And the thing that we're going back to the point that you're talking about, Mark, making after the Ranci, after Man United there, is that that's what stays on our hand with everything with this football club, is that when do you ever see Everton improving to a level that we can look into a season and say, you know what, I would absolutely, I used to criticise, believe it or not, David Moyes for this. He's been speaking weekly 11 years. He was there. And he was hammered for keeping Everton as a midfield slash Europa League candidates. He was ripped apart for that. How much would an Evertonian give for that right now? I would pay every night I have in my house for Everton to be a bog-standard team in 10th or 11th place right now, whilst they're able to go and concentrate on moving to a new stadium. Matt again mentioned Arsenal. You think about how Port of a record they had at the Emirates when they first went over. It happens quite a lot because no one's fucking used to sitting into there. Brand new stadium, everyone will be singing and dancing and all that. But it's the completely different circumstances in and around you. If you've got to go and do that in a summer where you've still got some digestion charge, you haven't made any sort of significant signings because your new owners are late in or they might not be in by then, whatever that situation is. You're going into a new stadium where you're like, you know, first game all delighted, turning up there. There are brand new seats, brand new tickets. Everyone's like, wow, this is great. You know, everything's brand new. But when you actually tend to look at what's going on in the pitch. Exactly, and the situation that Everton go there in, you automatically think 10 minutes into a game where it would play like we have been on the show and actually thinking, fucking hell, nothing's changed there apart from the amazing behind that window. That window, do you know what I mean? That, I think, has come along with the door I've said here, but it's hard to support everything. It's hard to support them because, I mentioned that with apathy before, it's difficult to get up from anything here. Now look, we've got the music side diving on Saturday. Obviously, that's the game for us. That's the biggest game we've got. Many in arguments as you guys will know that whether Everton or Liverpool's biggest game or not. That's always been a debate out whether Liverpool unite or whatever. Liverpool City in recent seasons, of course. The diving towards is quite obviously Everton's biggest game of the season. You'll see good in everybody. Look, look back in April. That's our best performance in a few years. You guys will know this as well. Anybody listening to this will know with their team. It's infuriating when your team just stands up for a particular game because it means everything to somebody else. Where you're an absolute pile of shite like we were against the drawer against Fulham. Like, not scoring any gold until yesterday, three goals in September. How's a manager kept his job? Would that be in the record of scoring a goal? Is this one more thing? Do I have one that just one more thing on nice there? He's built his career defensively on clean sheets and being able for the other side. He's able to absorb possession, sit 70, 80% possession. And that's how he's gone and got results. That's what he's based on, apparently. We've done that, Evan, our best run of form under him has seen the opponents have more possession. Great record. I heard yesterday just before we move on. 22 of Everton's last 23 victories have all came against sides that have had more possession than Everton. That's the sad we are, but is that sustainable? Absolutely not. No, it's not. You see, it's not sustainable. And there's an argument that things don't get anywhere are going into the stadium. Because as soon as you go into the stadium, payments that have to be made back on the stadium, running costs of the club will increase all the sort of things. So actually, your budgets might increase, which are costs increased. So the actual playing field is built the same. And if you're running like the same, I don't think everyone is spending enough money. But then when you look at what he spent, the guy had sent back 20 million from, was it Leon? Do you saw him on Jacob? Right. And he doesn't play. He doesn't play. 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We became more susceptible to the concealing goals, and we fell in a rush. Let's be honest, in the last seven or eight games of the season. And then you talk about the... And one of those games, obviously, at the Derby in April. But when you look at Everton playing that day, it wasn't rocket science. It wasn't out of this world football. What it was was really dedicated and strong defensively and aggressive when you got a chance to go forward. And honestly, I don't think that's too hard to do in the Premier League. If you're Everton or Brentford or Liverpool or anybody, if you can do that and set your style out to be that, it's absolutely fine. You'll win more than you lose, because you're defending properly and you're a tre. And I keep saying this, teams at the bottom, either don't defend properly or not a tre. And if you can't be a bit about, you're in trouble. You know, it's... When I look at everything, I look at Deutsch and I look at the club itself, I just think to myself, there's just nobody doing anything. And like you said, it's hard to go for stuff. And Mark, the guy that had this rant afterwards. It must be so demoralizing, right, that you can't even look forward to a new stadium, I don't think. Because every time you lose a game, it's like, we lost a game and the manager shit and that player was shit and so was he and him and him. And this guy that we saw doesn't even get a game. And this guy that's actually quite good and enjoy, he won't be there too long. And then the stadium and machere and there's just an endless list of things that you just keep saying over and over again every week. It's not like, you know, like you said, we're 10 or 11. We lost a game. I look, we're trying something new. It didn't quite happen. It might happen in a couple of weeks. You're OK with that. But when it's literally the same thing over and over again, and the list of things that are wrong, I just get bigger and bigger. It's very fucking, I think it's very, very hard to marry that together and be sort of positive. Just for you. You know, I know you're a lot of Matt. Now, just before that, a couple of points there on the new stadium, and then it almost becomes an album. It's also round, isn't it? And I think you've sort of, you've indicated that a couple of things you've said. There's about that, and I completely agree with it. Again, it's something else that I haven't really thought too much about. But when you think and you go into the promised land, but that's great. Like I said, it's brilliant for fans going to a brand new stadium. It's brilliant for Liverpool fans when the Anfield Road then changed and when the main stand changed. All that sort of thing's great for fans who constantly go to their home games at somewhere that's changed things up. But like you've said there, or like you indicated, the only thing that changes forever is the scenery. Everything else is still the same. Everything else is still the same. Which then, you know, the ice is criticized fans this season so far and everything. But just going back on your point there about, you know, not rocket science is if you can't go goals and you do conceit goal, that's when you're going to be in the absolute cheer to. When you've got slots, it looks like a breath of fresh audio. It has been a breath of fresh air over there. It's taken over the range from club. You look at two well-class managers, like club, like slot. I would presume the 19 or the 18 or the managers in that league. You go in on a Monday morning or two day morning after your weekend. And the lads will go into training and then it'll be like, we'll start looking at the opponent, we've got the weekend. How long do you think it takes a manager to get the projector out and say to them, ever to do this, this, this and this? Playing Man City, probably spent in a few hours on that. You would spend 10 minutes looking at how ever to play and think, right, this is what we're going to do. We do that ever and don't win this game. And that's the situation we're doing right now. And that is why it's infuriating. The Sean Dice will not change. Goals back to the point there about O'Brien that you made. 50 million quid from Leon who is absolutely fine. Similarly, in a certain extent, a brand thwaite who is over in the Dutch league. So it's got his games around, you know, behind his under his belt, come back, you know, he's going to be sold. If inevitably it's going to be, he's going to be sold for big money that we want to try and get. Very nearly happened in the summer. Those situations, which you've just spoken about, they're absolutely bang on. And that is why I think if I'm not just saying this because it's a dabbier weekend. But clubs that don't be to heaven at the moment need to take a bit of a look at themselves and that shows you how. Oh, you're really nice to hear that. That's all shameful. It is to support at the moment, mate, honestly. But you see, you're talking about which is the biggest game and which isn't. And honestly, the two games I hate in the season is a way and everything and a way that Manchester is. I'm confident. I am feeling that Liverpool can be anybody, put anybody, bring our best world 11 at Anfield, and I still think we'll beat you. But go to Everton. What I thought is when we go to, you know, I think over the last couple of years, we showed them way too much respect. And let them have the ball. And when we go to Everton, we turn it into a game, Joel Roy will be proud of. And I'd be like, what are we doing here? Like, honestly, if we get the ball down and pass it around and make these last run, we'll just take them apart. And then it'll be over on 60. And they won't want to get beat anymore. And we're not really bothered. It's a tree nail. And we're all just shaking it and going home. You know what I'm saying? And that's what happens in Everton. The Derby on Saturday, early kick off. I have seen some rumours as Holly wins and where the warrens and all of the people and people are saying, could this game be cancelled? We wait and see. But we dropped three all at Newcastle last night. I thought we were poor, forced half. But we won't nail down. And it's like, we're lucky to be one nail down to be fair. It was one of those games. Again, where, obviously, Anthony Gordon and Alexander Isaac have the soil. You know what? I'm going to actually fancy a meal. So I'll actually turn up to me because we're playing Liverpool and they'll be absolutely shit at the weekend against some other team because that's what they do. But we let Newcastle turn into a new castle game rather than trying. Let them do that, but when we get it, they're not getting it back. You know, and we come back one hour. We come back from two home. We get ahead. Caller makes a mistake. And of course, when Caller makes a mistake, it's like he's the world goalkeeper in the world. He's made one mistake and I don't know how many games. But we go into this one, man. And is it simply... This is how simple I think it is. I don't really care about playing everything. I don't really care as the last game I've got to go to some pack. I don't care about Chandosh, Machiri, the fucking new stadium, whatever it might be. I want Liverpool. And I'm hoping Ernest lot does this. He goes in and he says, "Look, we're Liverpool. We're top of the league." These are 15th. They're averaging probably a goal a game. They're averaging a point a game. We're better than them. Go out and play your game. And everything will go your way. Because if Liverpool play their game here on Saturday. One, Everton won't live with them. And two, Everton's fans will literally be fucking falling over themselves to fucking tell Everton about the air within 10 minutes. And that's the truth. Yeah. Yeah. I would imagine that Arnes thought just the type of character that he's shown himself to be in these first 20 games for us will have all the emotion and history and whatnot stripped away from his preparation for the match. He's got no connection to the derby. You know, he's a Liverpool manager. He will know that Everton is the local rival, I'm sure. But other than that, he hasn't been. He hasn't been any yet. This is his first derby. So, you know, it might change going forward after this. And, you know, we kind of saw how Jurgen Klopp would approach the derby. Yeah. Didn't seem to care about it, you know, and would rest players. At the start. Yeah. But then he seemed to care to the point where he went there. Oh, man. I actually think Everton might be quite good here. And let's save the air instead of going. They're not. And that's not being disrespectful to Everton. They haven't been good for a long time. A long, long time. You know what I'm saying? But go on. Yeah. No. So, I think he's definitely going to have a set out to come out and play our game. And really, and especially because somebody is going to warrant him. Like, if we let Everton get a foothold in this game, first 10, 15 minutes, that crowd is going to get up for it. You know, it's going to turn into a bit of a bear pit. Kind of like what we saw at St. James's Park last night. The worry that I have, and this is what happens when you draw a game, when you've been on such a wonderful run, is that you start having the doubt creep in a little bit, is I'm certain that we had that plan going into the game yesterday. And we just didn't have the legs for it. And that's the worry that I have. Because I think man-to-man across the park as a whole of the 11s that are going to get put out there on Saturday, we should win the game. You know, we're in a much better place. You know, we're in a much better place. We're scoring more goals. We're tighter at the back than they are. But the legginess that we showed, where even though almost certainly, they were told to go out and play the game in the way that we've been playing the games, you know, how we played against Real Madrid, how we played against Manchester City. And we just couldn't do it. We were just that half-step or a quarter-step too short. We start losing all of our battles in the midfield, and it starts to show. And then you start thinking about, you know, who's going to get the nod to start the game on Saturday? And well, it's not going to be McAllister to see suspended. And Ryan Grabenberg sure looks like he could use a rest, because he was about the tiredest out of all of them in that midfield. Well, that's Curtis Jones, Sabeslai, and question mark. You know, is it Endo? Is it Harvey Elliott? And so that's the main concern that I have. And I was so excited that you got Dave on here tonight to talk about this with us, because I'm wondering his take on Everton's ability to do that running in midfield, to have that power and energy that we saw from Jo Alanton, Bruno Guemorelli yesterday, that, you know, those are pretty high-end operators. That's a pretty solid midfield three. I think those are better players than Everton can put out in their midfield. But running is still running. You know, graft is still, graft is still, desire. And I haven't watched enough Everton this season to be able to say, "Yes, they do or don't have that ability." 'Cause that's where the game's going to be won and lost is in the middle of the park. If we're going to win it and win it as comfortably as ostensibly we should, it's going to be because our midfield absolutely dominates the midfield in the park. Yeah. And if we get upended and we draw or lose, it's going to be because we lose that battle in the middle of the park here. Yeah. It's interesting. I actually think a massive issue in the game last night was the selection we made at the back. Now I understand what we've done. We left Trent on the bench because he was only back and he played Man City and he played the vast majority of Manchester City. And he went with Quanta and he went with Gomez. I think it was a huge mistake. I think you should have started with Trent and he should have done 60. And then he should have went, "Listen, let's get this game won and then bring on Quanta. And maybe if you want to move Gomez or whatever." Because it gave Newcastle the initiative. And Newcastle's only outlet of attacking is always and Gordon. And air weakness, not weakness, but air change was there. And I think it affected everybody. The position of airmen failed. The way we were playing are out ball to our fallback. It just didn't feel right in that sense. And that's not against Jarrell Quanta playing it right back. He's a centerback. You know what I'm starting to say? We've been unfortunate there with the injuries of Bradley and who's been acting when he comes in. And I think that just skilled us. Because we equalize in that game. We bring Trent on and we dominate. Because what happens is, right, Gordon scores. Okay, but overall Liverpool dominate because straight away the fluidity from that side of the pitch just adds straight away. And I know what you're talking about with regards to everything and running and stuff like that. I don't see this as a running game. I think this to me, if I'm everything, I'm not moving 10 yards further up than the edge of my box. 10 yards up from my box, I'm not going anywhere in that. Because I think Salah is known as a D as a gak ball, whoever I think will kill them. Like Salah will fucking kill you if you go high up the pitch. And that's where I think everything have to go back to what I was talking about earlier. Really solid and disciplined in defense. And when you get it up to a better or a Calvert loan or whoever it might be, they have to hold it. They have to win free kicks. They have to get you up the pitch. You know what I'm saying? But I can't see everything turning around. Listen, we're playing on the halfway line here. This is our game. We just don't see it. But I completely get what you're saying. We looked a bit leggy. Everything I've had a game as well. It's an interesting one. Dave, you're going into this. You know, we've spoken with everything who they have. And it's the same old stuff every week. But obviously, was turned up there last night. And as you said, I think me and 10 of me mates could have beat them. When you look at this Liverpool soil and you look, albeit, they've drawn a new castle. And it's not an easy place to go to a new castle. People of, you know, were just on such a holiday. I was like, oh, we're beating it. We just beat them. And they've beaten their ass. And they're beating their ass. And they're beating their ass. And they're beating their ass. And they're beating their ass. And they're beating their ass. And they're beating their ass. And they're beating their ass. And they're beating their ass. And they're beating their ass. And they've drawn them. And they've torn up on the big games. The main players. Because they might get it. I genuinely think it's that. But Dave, when you look at this Liverpool soil, I'm sure a lot of the frightens you. You know, when you look at it. Because Liverpool have got threats and a lot of them. I think just going first, the only match set about the midfield. But I think that's a really interesting point to you. Because. And dare to say it as much as I've criticized you on dice here. He has got quite the dilemma. Because that midfield there. That I've been so critical of with that duo I mentioned before. With the Mangala and the Just A Gay. Has been, by far, an almost successful period of games. When those two started now against Liverpool. Yeah, simply have to put a third in there. We could not go in snap game without putting three midfielders in there. The court is not the answer. When the court, when he decides to put him in midfield, he's simply not good enough. Talk about likes. That lad's got half an hour in them. Maybe these days. Bit of a talisman for us. I think the record is that we've not won a game without him playing in the last couple of years or something silly like that. And you have to think about putting another, putting another player in that midfield. And on the other side of the corner, what you've said there. I still think you need that solidity in front of your effect. Are we going to end up playing a back five? Because if all the people end up with Salah up against Ashley Jung. Who incidentally is being probably our best player so far this season. Which says a lot if you haven't been watching everything so far. I bet you can't believe you're saying that. Well, that's why it's a complete nightmare. You're thinking about to wake up and think it's not this bad, but it actually is. You know, him against Salah is petrifying. He's 39. He's about to play against his kids in the FA Cup, by the way. Yeah. Against Peter. But that's how laughable it becomes. Him against Salah is just, you know, the other idea we were talking about with this is trying to address Salah who's just electrifying. Probably the best runner football I've seen him have at Liverpool. He's always been well classes. Anyway, but this right now interested in other comes when contracts come about. Isn't that you see players go to the best. But I'm not too sure what that situation is all about. But stopping him's route one for us is absolutely priority to that. Every now and then can I have as much of the ball as Liverpool. You go back to April. This is going to be really different since April because Liverpool have done their homework on this. You've got a manager there who. I'm not going to go as far as saying. Club went into that thinking, you know what, I don't really need to do anything here because I know what we're going to come up against. Because well, yeah, you pretty much did come up against what you thought was going to happen, but you just didn't control it. Yeah. You didn't do enough to get Everton out of the things that they actually did well. Yeah. And that is when this basically went head to win father. Yeah, they let Everton turn into a job role again. That's exactly what it was. Yeah, that is it. You go back when. Calvary once goes to that goal of the Glather Street. And if you watch the end, don't configs. Yeah, in 1994. In '94, it's exactly, exactly the same goal. Yeah. And it obviously made me laugh at the end of the thinking that that's, however, and I've gone on that derby against the side. That is so much better than us. The rest of it there, I'm going to improve post-clop. And I think it's a debate you guys have often is sort of a club versus slot in regard to the side of quality that slot brought up into his own. Because Liverpool are a different side than last season. I don't care if anybody says that it's not different because they're the same players. I think Liverpool are a lot more difficult, a lot different animal this season for me. And so far this season, obviously, the results prove a lot more sharp than what they had towards the end of Klopp's tenure in there. Whilst that's the state of things, I pray you start in Darwin Nunez, I know you won't. And I don't say that with a smile because I do think you're not going to stay at Liverpool long. Let's face it. There's as many chances as you want to give the lads. If he plays, that's the Everton have got much more of a chance of winning that game. Which is quite bizarre that I'm able to say that because he really will win that with Brandthwaite and Tarkovsky there. We'll win that aerial battle, which I think Liverpool don't want to drag themselves into whatsoever. They want to keep it on the floor like you said. They can get in and around there. You've got Sally, you've got Whippets on the pitch, you've got a midfield that has impressed me. Probably top two or three. I've seen so far this season in Graven Birch. I think, you know, the interest and what you said there about defensively against Newcastle, that would be an issue I'd be looking at this game with. If I was a red because that feasibly is the only way I can get into this. If you don't have that sorted out properly and efficiently. Coming forward towards us though. Yeah, it's pretty woody in there. I mean, I'm guessing you're sure to play Gakpow there up front with one of the other players. So what he's done this season is he's played a job centre forward and he's played Nunez centre forward. And when he's been without Jota and he's looked to play one of play-order players, he's gone with Diaz in that centre role and he's kept Gakpow on the left at all times. He's going to the left Gakpow and said, "Look, you know, his best assets, he's big, he's strong, he's decent in the air, but we want them at wood." And they used to, they used to really well against C, but he actually put it physically on the corner of Walker in an aerial battles and stuff like that. So if you don't see Nunez, which I don't think you will, I think you'll see Diaz through the middle here on Saturday. I think you'll see Diaz, I think you'll see Gakpow and Sal at that, actually. Do you know what's really interesting about that is and it'll be, it'll have been overlooked by everybody, evertonians as well. That game Liverpool should have comfortably scored three goals against us in April. Yeah. There's a ball through from Trent who puts it through on a plate to Diaz, I think he does it one time. And then Nunez who basically misses an absolute sitter because he's got three quarters of the goal, he's slotted into and he decides to hit it straight to Jordan Piff. That probably epitomizes the way he's being for Liverpool, missing from that sort of, that sort of guilt and chance. And then of course, Diaz hits the post. You may well be laughing there, then I can relive every chef into that game because we won't miss you. I would rather try. Yeah, absolutely. But with that though, I mean, it shows you everything about that game, but you talk about fine margins. Liverpool should have scored first in that game. The chef definitely should have scored twice. It's not like you can look at that game in April and think, oh, we were miles away from getting a result there. In reality, you actually win. You slipped up on an absolute cock up and howling of a defensive mishap that gives it a grand way to just about to get it over the line plus that passed that lesson. And then let's face a car at Loon, the one thing that'll stick with throughout his career is he's an aerial beast. He gets up so high. You see how high you get past Van Dyke. He's taller than him. That's what the one thing he's got in his locker that essentially makes him a Premier League player. Everything else about his game thinks, you know what, he's probably a championship level. This match coming up there, that trio you've mentioned is petrified. If they're able to put, and you made the point there, you wouldn't leave the edge urinating your inbox if you would ever and completely understand that. Because with that midfield that Matt was talking about that's so important. You think about how deep that's going to drop for us, show the lines in between them too. They're just a breach because when they are, that's when everything defenders are stepping out. That's when your lines are going in behind, running all over the place like flies all over the place and everything is standing there as structured as they possibly can. Liverpool will get chances. Like I said, go back to the start. What we told him about is petrified, starting him out at double upon him. Everything's not going to do that. I've actually applaud Sean Dyke if he went five at the back, which has been notoriously shit toward us. I think whatever my deal was, I think he'll play actually young and he might play Mike Neil. And he will do that where he'll say. Yeah, yeah. Because if everyone come out and play on the halfway line, they're in trouble. I think if they come out and say, right, heirloin is just outside our box. And if we go up the pitch, we go up the pitch. But as soon as Liverpool try to break, we need to retreat. And these three lads in midfield need to do everything they possibly can to get back in front of them, to send them back as quick as they can. And the one out that you've got there is in Dye U.S. too. No, there we put Projean on as well for the last 15 who look promising as well. Yeah. And he's been signing since the summer and he's been along recovery for him. But we look at, we look at, we know what everything they're going to do. Dave said it. It's the same thing all the time. 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Whether that's cheap free kicks to give, you know, give away, you know, a series of corners or something like that in the first five minutes. It just allows the crowd to get up and just kind of strangle the life out of the match for the first 20 minutes to happen. And I think there's going to be a big impetus on Cody Gacko in this game. And you mentioned how Slott's gone with Diaz through the middle when Jada and Darwin haven't been available or chosen to play through the middle instead of Gacko. And I think a lot of that has to do with Gacko's ability to cut the ball in at pace with power and he has a pretty tidy little delivery on him. And this was something that was said about him when we signed him originally was that, you know, he's got this great delivery from that left-hand side. He's providing these crosses in the air to be easy for PSV and whatnot. And we saw it a couple of times in, I want to say the city game. And it was a lot of fun, so they all kind of blend together after a while of just back post kind of crosses. And we're seeing the same thing from Mo, we saw it for Gacko's goal against, I think that was against Madrid too, all blended together. Back post kind of flighted crosses that Gacko's goal against Man City. Same thing, playing the ball to the back post. I think that sort of delivery is going to be important for us because there's no doubt that they're going to have bodies in the box. So it's going to be tough for Mo Sala to try to do one of those little dangly footed dribbles through the box where he walks around people, unless it's snowing heavily. If it's snowing heavily on Saturday, then all bets are off. And you know, put your money on Mo Sala scoring an absolute worldy because that's just what he does when it snows. But I think that's going to be really important for us is matching up because they are going to try to mark Sala out of the game. And if they double up on him, whether it's five at the back or like you said, Gabb with McNeil, dropping back in to help actually young out, they're going to focus on that because how can't you, he's on form the best player in the world at the moment. So I think a lot of our attack is going to come from Cody Gacko down that other side of the pitch, and presumably he's up against then who Michael Enko. Michael Enko, yeah. I like Cody Gacko's chance. You know, he was probably going to be playing against Michael Enko. He's been dreadful as well. But Michael Enko's a left back, isn't he? We'll know that this has been another theme that you sort of swap him and ask the young over. Oh, yeah. So Michael Enko's already back there, was he? Yeah, I knew he put you on the top of this as well. And I think that's a little bit of both of you alluded to it. They're with McNeil, so the doubles up as a willing back. The other idea is on the other side, you get your Harrison through that because, I mean, again, he's a championship player, but the one thing he's really good at is double up with whoever's behind him. When he's come on on that right hand side with Ashley Young, he's been really, really good. By no means affect of what's so evident in the other way and looking at your goalie, absolutely shits himself. But in regards of being in our own half, maybe it's the Sean Dyson approach when he goes towards attacking wingers. But he jokes aside, that's wherever it have been effective with attacking players that have come at us. So you could feasibly see it like your math about said there, you could see Everton doubling up on both sides, not only up against Salut. And then, you know, looking at something ahead of it for us and we've got, you keep one man, it'll be, it'll be Calvert living. Then he tries to leave in Liverpool's half to sort of relieve the pressure that we have. And with Decoré, when he can get up there, he'll be running around like a headless cheering like he has been recently. And that he's not going to be a defensive player by any means, even though he does trap back and he runs his ass off. He's going to be the person that can slot anything that Liverpool give us. And that's a point there about how you start this game. If you nullify Everton and just restrict them by basically keeping possession of it, which I said has been the most successful way of being able to wing games and it results in games as if the opponent has more to the ball, It's a Merseyside derby that comes first and foremost when you've got 40,000 fans in there screaming at Everton and doing good enough against the red chides. That, that is where, that's where Guderson goes against itself. Because you're begging for a 2-4 to tackle, you're begging for someone to be bullied, obviously not sent off. But you're begging for that to happen. That doesn't, Guderson can go really flat really quickly. Well, that's the thing, if the, if, if, if, if, you know, Chelsea come and play tonight against Everton and have loads of the ball ever and go, "Yeah, but what's it? Mac, what comes when I'm going to be a threat?" Where Liverpool come and start doing the same thing, the, the, the psyche of the crowd is completely and utterly different because of what the game is. It's, it's, but, if I'm, look, I want to get low end ups and I'm on against corporations before we run out of here in a minute. But if I am, if I am, if I am, the problem I see wherever it is, if you try double up on Salah and Gackbo is, I think you're going to leave two players free for me. And one of them is going to be Trent, and one of them is going to be Cortis Jones. And Cortis Jones in that position, looking at Gackbo with two guys standing beside him is going to drift and he can, he's in really good form, Cortis Jones. And if you, if you're double up with, you know, a, a, a, a, a, a, an Ashley Young and a Mac Neil, you're only going to leave Trent free. Yeah, yeah, it's, it's impossible to look after him if you're going to double up on Salah and Trent can be devastating from where he is, you know, sort of way. And also I think it's going to take away from a possible midfield battle that Everton will look to Troy B, aggressive in. If I'm ever going far, far, one more, and I'm pointing the door you up behind, I'm going to Calvert Lyon and I'm saying, "Listen, two banks of four, this is going to play an off Calvert Lyon. Calvert Lyon has to win three kicks, knocked, knocked the ball down, get it to this guy. He's a bag of tricks and see where we can go from there." And it keeps them solid. If I'm Liverpool, I'm saying to myself, "Listen, they're not going to want Salah at them, they're not going to want Gackbo." Diaz is a live where we're going to end up with a player free, I think, in one of the fallback positions. And if everything had a preference, it'd be Robertson, but I think they're going to walk it towards Trent. And they're going to have one free in the midfield position because and Doy is going to come back and do that walk. And I think that might be Cortis Jones. And I think they could be huge in the game. Anyway, before we go to Loinhams, because I need to forgot to do this. I'm really, really sorry. Before we go to Loinhams and predictions, I just want to put this up on the screen. And this is Dave, you're winning this, by the way. This is a little thing that's popping up all over Liverpool at the moment. It is, are you blue or red? It's popping up on all these kind of digital... It doesn't tell me if blue or reds, you know, there's more Liverpool fans than ever in the fans, is it? No, no, no. No, basically what this is, is are you blue or red? Right? It's popping up on these, it's popping up on these billboards all over the city at the moment. It's very simple on the billboard. If you're a walking boy when in Liverpool, you literally scan the QR code, vote red, vote blue. And basically, the more blue, if there's more blue, people vote, the screen turns more blue. And if not, it turns more red. It's still at gambling.com. And listen, if people want to enter that, you can go in and vote. Very straightforward, you don't have to do anything, it's absolutely fine. If you want to go on a little bit further, you can actually vote, and then it'll give you an option to put in your name and your UK number, and you can win tickets to a game, hospitality tickets to a game virtually. So at the moment, it sits there, everything on 54,000 votes, Liverpool on 46,000 votes. It can change very quickly, it does one day, 30 hours and 31 minutes left. Now, if you want to do that, I've put a comment in the live chat, people want to just click on that and go off and do it. Or it's in the show description as well, it's across all our social media as well. And that was something we were asked to run for the next couple of days. But that vote's flying, by the way, there's been about 60,000 votes since I checked that a couple of hours ago. So it's really building up there. But if you want to do it, you can absolutely do it, and it's really easy to do. As I said, there's a link in the live chat, there's a link in the show description, it's across our social media. It's one click, vote red or vote blue, and then you can have it up, you can leave it at that. But if you want to enter for hospitality tickets to a game virtual, it's obviously not the Derby at the weekend. But if you want to see an everything game, if our goodness finishes up or if you want to see a Liverpool game towards the end of the season, you never know, you might get one for Palace, so I think it's the last game of the season. It could be lifting trophies and shit like that. Or we could be there going, "Ah, for folks, hey, Derby." If you hadn't missed all those chances in the last four weeks, we could have won the league. Super long the headlines, you can do that as well. So go check that out. Right. Thanks a million for that. That's anything we'll be winning in the next four, C-A-s, that was nice and all that. Yeah. Well, you never know. You might even win it. You don't have a ghost. You could lose the last minute. And we'd see how it goes. But loinups, I'm going to give mine for Liverpool. Matt, you can follow if you agree. And Dave will give his, let me do quick predictions and get out of here. And to be honest with you, I'd love to stay on. But we know it's literally running like a tap. And I'm literally, I don't know how I'm just avoiding them. So for me Liverpool, can I go Trent Van Doyke, Gomez, Robertson? I think he'll go Gravenbirche. I think he'll go Sabas Loye, Jones. And I think he'll go Salat Gakbo Dias. Yeah, the only change I would make is I don't think Gravenbirche can go again. I think Endo's going to get a start. I guess going to be Endo and Jones in the double pivot and Sabas Loye being the fourth man runner into the box. Okay. So Endo for Gravenbirche. Yep. Okay. Mightn't be a bad show, actually. If everything are going to go one off the striker, you know, and if they go one off the striker, they may actually, you know, need Endo to just pick up those pieces. You never know. Jonathan says no, Gomez. Everything else picks itself. People are reminding us that Kyayz is back in training. Hopefully more than 21s are one of those lads during the week and scored as well. So he looks like he'll be back soon as well. Dave, everything on up for me. Where are you going? Yeah, just to come to my mind. They really missed James Garner. It was brilliant in the Derby back in April. He would have been a big, big player for us in this game. But anyway, back four will stay the same. Young Tarkovsky, Brandthwaite, Michelenko. I don't think they should go for a back five or three, five, two, whatever. It is. You can see that you wouldn't do that. Not in the Derby, considering the one that actually we're going to play for at the back. You've got Tricia Gay and you've got Mangala who have to be essentially at both defensive midfielders. That the interesting thing that needs to be in this forever is you're talking about playing someone just off and die. Just off Kavit Lewin. I would drop the Corey as much as I've been a bit hypocritical about this. Because he hasn't been any good midfielder-wise. I'd have him in the middle of that of a three-man midfielder. Me and Matt and yourself have spoken quite a lot about this midfields battle that's going to come ahead there. You've got McNeil getting back to help out. Young, you've got Indai coming back to help out Michelenko. You've got Kavit Lewin with a thankless task. But the one thing to say, there's quite bizarrely positive about that is he's used to doing it. That's been evident for so long. If we're able to break Indai's going to do it because he's the quickest out of the lot of them. If Evan isn't able to get it forward, he's able to hold it up. Then Evan will consider moving up to the halfway line with any of our defensive midfield players. But then you've got McNeil. You've got the Corey, probably Seth Ford a little bit, and then you've got Indai. That goes from four. They're going to be pivotal to Evan having any chance that's not a set piece. And then obviously if we do win set pieces, then you've got those two lads of centre after it. It'll effectively become our strikers in Takhovsky and Brownclade. It's intriguing. It really is. All the narratives around with regards to goodies and everything that's going on in Everton. You know, Liverpool wear the air in the lake and what they're looking to do. And then you're looking forward to Liverpool, looking forward to European games, coming to rest players and them and stuff like that. There's so much going on, but at the end of the day, I have 12 on Saturday. It's going to be 11v11 and whoever tinks this out, the best I think probably wins it. You know, if Liverpool tinker properly and employ themselves properly, they'll win it. If Liverpool don't, I think Everton will see that. The crowd will want it, but they're always interested. There's very few. There's where you come away and go. Well, that wasn't interesting at all. Very, very few. Maybe the one during Covid, the fourth one back out of the car. We remember it all terrible. But other than that, they're usually very interested. Predictions before we go, I'll let you go for it. I'm going to go to one Liverpool win. I think Everton get a penalty and a red card in the game. I think Mo is going to score and assist again and he's going to assist Cody Jaquil. Dave, predictions? Everton, I'm going to score in this game. I don't think there's a hope of Everton getting Liverpool not to score. I can see Liverpool winning this three-note. Sadly, I could see he was getting a red card. You can see him from the court. He was a bit of a headless chip in the times. Could see that happening. Yeah, it could be. It could be. Hopefully, if we had anybody to do so, as we started the show with, some of these people are going to get rid of him. Let's go and get another manager in. Even though it is the month of Doom, given the team, you've got to go on and play before new year. I think Liverpool are going to go comfortably win this one. That's not me trying it in, by the way. No, no, no, no. You'll always be honest on what you think will happen in a game. For me, I don't think the worst thing that happened in Liverpool last night was a draw away at Newcastle. I think I need some of the complacency that may have come in because we've beaten Newcastle and everything angry. We go there and we win. I actually don't think Slott allows that. I think one thing I'm noticing is he literally fucking hates Nottingham Forest for beating him. He never shoots up about Nottingham Forest. All he thinks of it when he goes home is Nottingham fucking Forest, right? I think the fact that Newcastle have got a draw after him, he seemed like he was happy with the players coming back from goals down to two occasions, but he still wasn't happy with losing those points. That's really focused his mind. I think it'll be extra focused on the Liverpool side, but I think a really tight group. I'm going to go and prove some uncertainty. I wanted to go to one, but you have so I'm going to go three-one Liverpool. I think everything do score, but I don't know if they score. It's anyway meaningful. I think it might be something where they score in 80 and they're three-one down. Some along the emloins, I think you'll see a focus of the Liverpool here on Saturday, and I think Slott will look to take any of the emotion out of this game and the quality talks speak for itself. If Liverpool keep the ball and keep it way better than they did lastly, keep a look they did against Manchester City. I don't think everything can keep up with them. I don't think everything can, in an organisation sort of way, I don't think they can succeed in this game to be that organised for the whole lot of it. So I'm going to go three-one. I think Lewis Diaz scores. I think Dominic Sabo's voice scores. I suppose you have to give a salamom, won't you? Pretty much, yeah. It might actually be really, really iron-off this and have it and spend all game focusing on him and then someone else. Yeah. You're the three largest set up and score while we've put 10 men on Sala for the whole game. It's like when everything used to be mad into Jared, be like, just stop Jared and then someone else will go and score. Yeah. That's the quality of your side there, that was well. Just to put a finer point on it. It is. And the thing for me is that, in a football in a sense, when I've looked at everything this season, I think they're quite easy to stop if you're willing to commit to what you were trying to do. You know what I'm saying? That's the impression I get out of everything. If you're willing to play football and do and follow up on what you want to do, I think everything is quite easy to stop. But we'll see how it goes on Saturday. I've really enjoyed this. I have to say, I love having Dave on because I love his honesty. I love listening about everything. And he's always honest and the blue room. If you don't listen to it, I can't tell you any more to go and listen to it. Genuinely, it's only a podcast for you to listen to every show. All the stuff. All borrowed, blew all these sort of shows that come up. I listened to them all because you hear some great stuff, great evidence stories. I know you like football stories in general, but go and listen to them. You're on YouTube and just Dave, I listen to all your audio stuff. I don't look at your video stuff. Yeah, that's it. It goes on to the radar because obviously it's the podcast. It's when it started. Well, 11 years ago, 12 years ago, it was always a podcast. But yeah, we are on YouTube as well. Yeah, you're on YouTube now as well and you get them anywhere. You listen to the podcast. They're really good. But I really enjoyed it. So thanks today. Thanks to Matt. It's been really good. I hope everyone enjoys the game on Saturday. Apple says everything to Liverpool tree. Everything go tune and look for molders car. I had to get in the last two minutes. You know, like. I think that that will be when I give it up to him. Yeah, we just. If that happens, I'm not going. It'd be like everything just brought up a song. Oh, does anybody fancy Tuesday, Williams and a corporate? I'd say you can go and say probably more like your typical edition. Right. We are going to go. Thanks for watching. Make sure to like, subscribe, comment. If you want to become a member, hit the join button. 3.99 a month and it's all a bit good for the crack. And we're regards to shows today as towards you. We won't be on tomorrow. We will be on Saturday following the game and we'll be on Sunday night as well. And then back to the end of the user routine for next week. Stephen has us. I've just so just subscribed. I've seen nearly 50 and 1000 subscribers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But we like we like leaving it around there. When it gets too much, you get fucking headbangers and like we have a ton of time. It's not even that we don't have time for them. We just reacted to them. And then we just go listen, fuck off with it. And then it'll all kick off with you. You know, the camera culture. You know, yeah. We just tell them. The jacket's too busy and it's hard to keep up. You know, the best. To me, I think the best thing. I think the best thing about the channel is the chat that's there. It's a nice amount. It flows nicely, but it's not like. Yeah. Apart from Apple being an absolute magic mushrooms there with two nail and a hatrick in the last two minutes. Like, you know, apart from that, it's absolutely fine. I'll tell you that with all of them. I'll tell you that with all of them about that. I'll tell you that. Two nail up and head your bets to see what happens. You know, because you know what's going to happen. Yeah. Right. Listen, we're going to go there. Thanks to me and to everybody. 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