You're welcome to the deep dive on the Inside Texas football YouTube channel powered by InsideTexas.com. I'm your host Justin Wells and with me is always Ian Boyd, Paul Waddlington, both the exes and o's gurus of the Inside Texas family. Guys, we had a spring game. We talked a lot about building up to it and then we actually got to see it. And then there's a lot of stuff to die set. But right now, I want you all to like the video and subscribe to the Inside Texas Football YouTube channel. Come see us at InsideTexas.com. Use that promo code IT1. You get two months for only a dollar that will get you through the June official visits. There's so much stuff going on the recruiting side. But today we're going to dive deeper into the team aspect. We've got stuff about defensive tackle play. We're going to talk a little bit about offensive concepts and corner and nickel play as well. We saw some bright spots. We saw some things that need to be tweaked. Let's go over them. Let's get through this checklist, gentlemen. We're going to start out with D tackle play. That seems to be the buzz word right now, especially with Texas hunting in the transfer portal for another couple guys. What were your guys' impressions of D tackle play and kind of where you think this grouping is going to be going? I'll start with you, Paul. Well, we had speculated before the spring game that Pete Wieckowski may have to have a different approach with this defensive tackle group because they were not ideal at anchoring. They were not ideal at playing gap and a half or two gap technique, encouraging a double team and beating it anyway, which is what Byron Murphy and Devondre Sweatt offered for Texas. I think we saw, hey, these guys, their skill set is actually more penetrating, taking gaps. That doesn't seem to be what Pete Wieckowski wants to do or at the very minimum, he wants to have the ability to anchor when he wants to. He wants to have the ability to have those big bodies, cause a big car crash, big pile up, and then let those new skilled edges that we suddenly have. Let Anthony Hill at middle linebacker, let David Benda, playing the other complimentary linebacker, eat and go make plays and run around the field. I think we're seeing that in the portal and we're also seeing that in the minutes that are going to be or the snaps that are going to be played by the guys that we currently have in the locker room. So Texas did add big Bill Morton from Arizona, classic anchor tackle, negligible pass rusher, not merely a lateral guy. He's not Byron Murphy where he's going to be making tackles out near the sideline, but he's big and you can't push him back. And I think Texas is targeting another guy that fits that bill in Dominic Williams, spelled demonic, but he's Dominic. He's an angelic in between the tackles and I think Texas is going to expend a lot of resources. So Ian, I'll throw it to you, is that we just want to run back last year with with slightly inferior defensive tackles, but who can offer a similar approach in terms of anchoring? Or is it that Pete wants the flexibility to do both? I'm starting to actually think Pete just wants to run his stuff and he doesn't want to try to imagine a new slanting, gapping defensive tackle group. He just wants to do what he wants to do and the guys that can do it are going to stick around. The guys who can't are going to hit the road or have to develop until they can. Yeah, I think probably more that he wants to do what he's going to do to some extent. Now he's used movement some in the past, but it's just hard to pair a like true gap and a half anchoring style with a heavy movement style. Like say out at Oklahoma, Bryn Vanibals got out there and they could not find anchors. Like there were none left from the previous staff and it was really hard to find any in the portal or in recruiting. They'd be ready in time. So he just loaded up on like 283 pound dudes and taught them to move around. And that's been kind of their solution for the last couple of years. PK obviously just doesn't want to bend that far. I don't know if he's entirely wrong just because when you have Anthony Hill and all these edges, if you can get away with just playing your style maybe a little worse than a year before, but your guys at the tip of the spear are you're actually you're finally your best players. Maybe that's not such a bad idea. Alfred Collins is kind of, we should talk about him for a minute because he's sort of like the interesting where this, there's a lot of give and take with Alfred Collins, right? He's the best returning tackle on the team. He had a big play in this game where he shoved DJ Campbell into the backfield and then picked off a tipped pass and returned it for a touchdown. Then he had a couple other snaps that looked like kind of old Alfred Collins, you know, got stood up a little bit, played too high. The game was, I mean, it was just a microcosm of his whole career. Like one minute he's doing something where you're like, that's an NFL first rounder. Oh my gosh, yeah, I can't believe that somebody just, that guy just did. And then another snap, it's like this guy is, I mean, he'll be drafted on body type, but that's not a star tackle for you. There's still, it still seems like there's give and take there with who he is and they're going to find somebody that's solid enough to anchor next to him and get away with it probably, but there's still so much in his play and his development over the next year that's going to be extremely important for this team. So Justin, I feel like we're trying to balance some of the flash potential of an Alfred Collins, or even Jareh Bledsoe as he develops into the summer and into early September. We're trying to balance that with just some consistency, big bodies. Hey, you're not blowing us off the football. Plus, like we have ambitions for the football team and they're aware that Michigan is on the schedule and they're aware that Michigan has a 240 pound quarterback who can run and does not appear to be able to throw a forward pass past 15 yards. Also, Michigan's wide receiver room devastated effectively. They've just got a tight end who's coming back who's nice. But I think there's a blueprint that Michigan is going to try to push Texas all around the football field in Ann Arbor. And we better have at least a few guys that we can put in there and say, no, you're not going to push us around. And in fact, you're going to have to drop back and throw the ball to try to beat us. What do you think Justin? That's exactly what Michigan's going to try to do. That's what I would try to do. I mean, considering all the, you know, Alex Orgy's is a quarterback and he's from actually from Texas and his family. His brother was actually offered by Texas. His brother was a linebacker. I believe he went to Vanderbilt. The family is actually really great. But yeah, Michigan's going to try to run the ball. That's what they do. And you said they have a tight end. I imagine Harbaugh left him a few tight ends. Something tells me that they've got some capability in that room. But did anybody, you know, they're going to try to force it, obviously, but was there any play on that D line or was it one particular person that you felt like on Saturday flashed or shine or did something that checked the box? I said, okay, I think this is a guy you could work on and that you rely on during the season. Well, with the exception of Alpert, who we did talk about. Right, aforementioned. No, we put the ball in the air 60 times. Okay. And this wasn't the clear, like, let's go ones against threes and walk-ons as we've done in previous scrimps, scrimmages. You know, we had Isaiah, Isaiah Bond catching touchdowns late, late in the fourth quarter, right? Yeah. These guys were playing except the guys that they sort of pulled for injury reasons. I didn't see anyone consistently flashing an interior pass rush. And now we weren't doing T&E stunts. We weren't doing a lot of complimentary blitzes to get one-on-one matchups. But I did not see an Aaron Bryant, a Jeray Bledsoe. Well, certainly not Vernon Broughton. We could talk about that if you want. I didn't see any of these guys just like being a problem. And maybe that speaks to their pass rushing ability. Maybe it speaks to the fact that we've really upgraded our offensive line. Maybe it's a little bit of both. What do you think you? Yeah. I mean, Jeray Bledsoe, I thought flashed a little bit in the pass rush. He got double teamed a lot. And if you double teamed Jeray Bledsoe in the pass rush, I mean, I think that's pretty much game over right at this point in his career. It's tough to get a pass rush against a double team. And the nature of Texas's defensive tackle interior right now is such that double teaming the most dangerous tackle is not that hard, right? Because the other guy is almost invariably like an anchor that can't rush the passer if that, right? So, yeah, I mean, that'll be something they have to work out in the season. I mean, obviously they're going to count on the edges. Trey Moore didn't even play in this game. Probably they have a blitz package to help there as well. And we'll see how that materializes. But there's a reason that portal talk is the talk of the defensive tackle room right now, right? Naturally, very naturally. Nickel corner play, you know, they threw the ball like Paul said 60 times. And now with Terrence Brooks headed off to deader grass or deader grass on the other side of the field, other side of the fence. Tell me what we're going to need to see from that spot. It's obviously Jada Baron might play some of that corner. It's very easily that he could. Did you see enough from Jalen Gilbo in that nickel spot? Does Andrew Makuba slide in a little bit more and play a little bit star? Where are we going in that in that direction? I thought Gilbo really looked promising in the spring game. He's always been pretty good in coverage, honestly, and from the nickel position. We don't know how he would hold up outside. But on the inside, he's pretty good in zone. He's quick. He's twitchy. He's got some length. He can turn and run very naturally. This has always been true. The questions for him have been like taking on blocking on perimeter screens, playing the edge when the ball goes outside and the nickel has to be a more active part of the run fit. And I thought, I mean, we didn't see a ton of that in the spring game, but I thought Gilbo looked improved there, but he looked a little more comfortable. So I feel like I'm almost unique now in thinking that A, just because he played nickel doesn't mean Jada Baron couldn't be one of the better corners in the conference even next year. He was very good at nickel. And then two, Gilbo was not ready in previous years, but I think the nickel room may be ready to lose Jada Baron even before considering the possibility of Makuba sliding down there and helping as well. Yeah, we're going to hear something on that one. That's a start. That's a bold statement. Ian's all about the bold assertions. He likes, he's all about virality and clicks and saying crazy stuff. He's generational. He's the Stephen A Smith of our crew. 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Not that someone caught an eight yard ball in front of them. And you throw down your hat and say that's inexcusable. I think the fact is Jada Bear played through some pretty significant injuries through the last part of the year. And that's why he was held out for big portions of the spring. They want him healthy. And there's a reason they are emphasizing keeping that guy healthy. He could have played in the spring game, guys. They chose not to play him for a reason because they consider him a very valuable asset. So if you're looking to get some really good coverage, sticky coverage, and that's when we get to Manny Muhammad, who played really well in that scrimmage. In a scrimmage where the passing game got its got got after it. I mean, what arch and board and Owens combined, you're looking at like 550 yards passing, right? Well, none of that was on Manny Muhammad. He gave up one ball, and the ball he gave up was a perfect throw from yours and an incredible catch from John Tae Cook with Malik Muhammad draped all over him. That's the kind of coverage we're going to get from him going against really good receivers at Texas. We're going to be in good shape on one side of the field. So if we can lock down the other, that's really going to help our safety play. If you really trust your corners, boy, it really clears your safety's ability to see ball, go get that ball and play more instinctively instead of always worrying about having the corners back on every instance. So I think that's an encouraging aspect of the secondary. That said, I saw some disconcerting things in terms of communication. I saw some bus, which we should not be having in a spring game when you're running. Did we run two coverages? Three? Maybe three? Yeah, not a lot. The angles the safety's took were not optimal. Well, and I will say this, the two of the people that were most exploited most frequently in the passing game were Wardell, Mark Mack, True Freshman Corner, and Xavier Filthame, True Freshman Safety. He took some, he took some angles that Pythagoras would not approve of guys. Euclid was rolling in his grave. And I already detailed, I think, in one of these that you'll see the catch and run touchdown to Thatcher. Xavier Filthame takes a terrible angle. And literally, you could see him in the frame as the ball goes past and he goes, oh, like, oh, what have I done? And it's like, yeah, exactly. Now, you probably don't want to do that during the game. You probably just want to, like, turn around and chase the ball and not running straight. He's also an early and early freshman. So we can see young guy, and also, this is a guy who wore pajama pants and slip-ons for SARC's official visit. So this is a different dude. You ate. At least he likes to be comfortable. And there are plenty of testimonials with Jade Barron. You know, this guy played corner against Houston in a pinch. He wasn't even supposed to play in the game because of injury. He comes off the bench, Rudy style, and goes out there and locks down, guys, on that side of the field against Houston in the second half. And so Barron is just indispensable. There's a reason he didn't have to really practice a whole lot this spring, SARC knows what he's getting there. Ian, anything that you want to add to the DB hoopla? It's possible that they held Barron out a lot in practice so that they could develop the other nickels. And so they could try to avoid scaring off either one of the other cornerbacks or potential incoming transfers. I don't know that. I'm this is not because I've heard anything inside. I know what they have in Barron. But I do wonder if there's some games here where it's like, and maybe even if Brooks sniffed it out, you know? Well, here's the thought on Brooks, and I don't want to get too into this. I think that that was a light that we've been waiting to turn on for a while. And it didn't fully turn on. And I think there was a sense that he or his camp, one of assurances, he's the starting corner for the University of Texas this year. And I think the response was, you'll have the opportunity to compete to be the starting corner at the University of Texas. And we're pending fall camp. How you perform? We're pending September. How do you perform? Because we have other options, whether it's Jude Barron or Gavin Holmes. Gavin Holmes got beat pretty handily by Isaiah Bond. And other than that, I thought he actually was okay. And you know, like when you play press man, you do get beat. It happens. But the way he got beat was interesting. He basically had an outside jab on Isaiah Bond to try to corral him from going outside. And Isaiah Bond was not going outside. And he didn't protect inside release. And Isaiah Bond's acceleration on his second step on that release was docking. Isaiah just real fast. And he just left him and then arched through a perfect ball that he bent slightly back against the numbers. So as Gavin Holmes was recovering, Bond had the perfect angle which created even more separation. And the thing about that throw, which was cool, was whether Bond had beaten him by six feet or six inches, he was still going to have a huge gain because the throw was absolutely money. So it happens, you get beat. But I wonder if Gavin Holmes is also an option if we don't like what we get out of the nickel. Do you think he could hold up opposite Muhammad? Or do you think the plan is let's go barren and see what happens? Yeah, I mean, they could also go to the portal still. But I think, I mean, you want three corners, right? You want three like starting celebrate corners. So I think Holmes is absolutely could be there. Really? I mean, Holmes coming out of Wake Forest, I thought Holmes was a lock to start at Texas. I got any two. He played amazing press man coverage at Wake Forest. Then Texas had him playing awful on it. And he's not a good tackler. And it caused mega problems when he would come in, like a lot of the bad plays against Oklahoma featured some really shoddy Gavin Holmes tackling, trying to come up and make stops. So, you know, he's gotten better there. Probably that he will play more and more man. He got to play more press man down the stretch and actually had some good showings against Texas tack. And I think another game late in the year. All that to say, sure, Gavin Holmes, my beating answer still. I'm betting on John A. Barron, but we'll see how it goes. And now listen, you know, else brought their A game? The offense, the passing attack. What was I want to just going through the offensive depth real quick? What are a couple of the spots, a couple of positions, maybe even a couple of the players that you thought, okay, we have a lot to sort out on defense with a lot of parks to do it. So that'll get fixed. Why not this offense that through the ball 60 something times? The depth that receiver we know is ridiculous. I think the depth that offensive line is as strong in the solid as it's been. Good running back play, great quarterback play. Am I picking nits or did the offense? This depth looks to me like the strength of 2024's team. So I got to talk about receiver really quick. I mean, amazing display of speed athleticism, depth, these guys have hands, they can run routes. But there's a, I love the movie Vision Quest. I don't know if you've ever seen that movie, it's about wrestling. Yeah, the Madonna had a song from the soundtrack that was really, really good. And Matthew Modine, yeah, he plays the wrestler, he actually does a great job. So Matthew Modine has this dream of dropping weight to wrestle the best wrestler in the state. And so he goes early in the movie to go scout out a match. And the stands are packed and Matthew Modine has out his pen and pencil and he's going to watch this amazing wrestler and he's going to take notes about how he can beat him. And the guy comes out, the wrestling match starts and shoot just utterly destroys this guy. And the crowd's going nuts and jumping up and you don't see Matthew Modine because he's sitting and the camera pans down over the crowd and shows him. And he's just, he hasn't written a single thing down and he looks star, he looks shocked and just like utterly dismayed at what he just saw. I wonder if that's what Silas Bolden thought when he watched the spring game, the incoming transfer from Oregon State, he's coming in to get his his shine on, he's going to play in a real passing offense without this terrible quarterbacking he had at Oregon State. He's, he's having visions of a thousand yard season. And then he watches five wide receivers for Texas just go off like, like shoot. And he's thinking, oh, what have I done? He's got his patent pencil watching the spring game and he hasn't written a single thing down other than, oh, no. So good luck to Silas Bolden getting in that rotation. And by the way, if you can, we're going to be even scarier. So that's, that's jumped out to me. The second thing that jumped out to me was we have a viable second team offensive line. You know, they, they put Jake Majors and Kelvin Banks and mothballs fairly early in that game for obvious reasons. And you know what, we could still run offense. The guys, we didn't have free rushes running everywhere. You know, they got some pressure here. I mean, certainly Colton Vosick and Colin Simmons had some past rushes, but yeah, we weren't, you know, guys, remember three years ago, five years ago, there were times when we'd put in our second or 13 offensive line in spring scrimmages. And the quarterback could not get the ball out past the line of scrimmage. Everything was a sack or a batted ball or a whistled play or just a cluster. And I mean, that ain't the case anymore. So they got some real bodies and they got some real depth and it's only going to get better. And even the 13, like the 13 guards were, I think Malik Agbo and Connor Stroe. And Agbo, you can tell, is still a little too light to play guard. He got pushed around a little bit. Connor Stroe, when they're just running the ball, he looks like a guy that could be a starter. At some point in the not too distant future, I don't know about past protection. And I know that his weight is he's carrying too much of it. He's like 370 or something. But they, I mean, they have a lot of talent and a lot of these guys now, both in like, Agbo and Stroe, these guys have all been in the program for a couple of years now. So like, you don't have the effect of, you know, the freshmen sophomores coming in that don't even know what the calls are. Getting a crash course in the spring game. Yeah, they have, not only do they have depth of talent, but they have depth of talent that's actually received a little bit of development. It's kind of hard to imagine a scenario where the offense just gets gutted by injury. Most of your like big time injuries seem like they would not necessarily hold the team back. Cal losing Kelvin Bank seems like the only thing that would be like a real loss and game changer that might not be something you can easily patch up. Yeah, you would though Trevor gives me to the wolves in that situation. But I thought he looked good, actually playing both sides. I thought, I thought Jaden Chapman flashed. You know, I saw a few got Andre Kojo. We had heard that he had played pretty well. I thought he played well. These are guys that some of them, we were, you know, we were looking at potentially leaving for the portal because the offensive line was the room that needed the most attrition. And so far, that doesn't look to be the case. So far, you know, P.K. Kirkland might be the only one that winds up going, you know, heading off and and coincidentally, he's going to Colorado. So that that's a perfect fit. You know, real quick. My receiver play was huge. Like Paul said, you know, you like the depth in on the offensive line. It's the blooming back to show it running back. I think we know that. Who is going to be that third guy? Is it going to be Trey Weisner? Because I think he has worked his way into that conversation. And why is there may run harder than any of the other tailbacks on this depth chart? Just to the fact that he plays as hard as he does. And so we'll wrap it up there at the tailback room and, you know, we'll tweak on quarterback a little bit because I thought we saw a few things from a few guys. But really, blooming back to are your guys. But listen, is Weisner your third, does Christian Clark or Jerry Gibson sneak up and grab a few carries? Or is it just going to be the the blue and Baxter lightning and thunder and Weisner the health store? Probably that. Although I mean, you imagine that maybe the winner of the Gibson Clark battle gets some like late game carries when it's like, hey, let's just run clock within four game window. Yeah, maybe you don't always want Weisner just eating eight man front tackles at the end of games. Maybe that's something that you would. You know what? That you raised a very valid point because unlike those two young freshmen, Weisner is going to be a very valuable special teams asset huge. And I think he is going to be and we're not talking about as a returner. We're talking about as a gunner and we're talking about the guy that stops the gunner. I just blanked on the name on a football. What do you call that guy? I just blanked on that. There's a gunner stopper. Gunner stopper is the technical term. That's what we call these taxes. But you know, those are very valuable. He's going to be on kickoff coverage. He's going to be he's going to be doing a lot of special team stuff. So that's a guy you don't want to get hurt. And also that's a guy that he's going to get a bunch of snaps on special teams. And so he's going to get winded. I still think he's probably the third back. And you know, the thing that sticks out to me is that he just gets better. He just works hard. And obviously, Wiesner takes football very seriously and just gets better every time you see him. And great compliment to Baxter and Blue, we can catch. And he can run. That's a characteristic of all of these guys. Looks like Christian Clark can do that as well. So yeah, I'm excited there. Did we want to talk tight end and quarterback really quick before we bow out and say goodbye to the people? I think we should know real quick on tight end, you know, the Gunnar Helm as your incumbent. Jordan Washington had to catch the day, give that man a give that man his credit. Juan Davis came out running with the ones. And so, hey, I like that he's, you know, getting a little bit of run. Maybe he sees the field a little bit this year because he's got that athleticism. But really, I think it's quarterback play. And let's do it in the most diplomatic way possible. When yours with his first two series, did what he did. But then it was arch and Trey Owens and those two stole the show. Ian, which one, what give me one on one and Paul, you get the other. I'll say I'm Trey Owens that he was pretty composed. He got away with a lot of things in the spring game format. You wouldn't get away with in a game. But his command in the offense for an early enrollee looks pretty good. And the zip, it kind of reminds you of like Malik Murphy, sometimes Sark would be like, you know, Malik Murphy's probably the best arm on the campus, just in terms of like pure strength, throwing power, whatever. Oh, I don't know if Owens is that I don't know if Owens has got a stronger arm than Quinn Ears, but is one more big cannon arm dude. And he can definitely reach different areas of the field. I, you know, Trey Owens may end up being like the Mac Jones or the, uh, I'm blanking on another Sark example. But the next Mac Jones for Steve Sarkisian, where he ends up starting for a year as an upperclassmen after waiting his turn for a while when everybody's expecting blue chips behind him to come in and having a really good year because he's got a lot of the traits that Sark loves. Yeah, but I get to do it 15 seconds. So what I recommend all of you do is go read my long exposition article of breaking down arch in his mechanics. It's not just the success and the result of the plays where he threw for 355 on 25 attempts. It's how he did it. It's the tightness of his mechanics. It's his ability to constantly set and reset with slight shifts in the pocket. Always ready to throw. Windows don't pass him by. It's amazing to watch. It's NFL level type stuff, really. And it's not just because he's a manning and he's been getting good quarterback tutelage, which he has. It's that he's a really good athlete and he's very coordinated and he's got real good athletic traits. So this is a guy who could make all the system throws, but on third and four they play man coverage, you run your four verts. He can rumble for 24 yards and really hurt a defense. That is a very tasty proposition for Texas Longhorn fans down the road. And to wrap it up, I like Arch's energy. There's something charismatic about him. There's something galvanizing with these players around him. After the second practice, he hit Wingo on a deep play and Wingo's jogging back. This is second spring practice. Wingo's jogging back and he looks at him and he goes, "Look, there's nobody on this field that can guard you. I'm about to feed you this blank, blank pill. Be ready." And that gave Ryan so much inner confidence that carried over through at the entire spring, Arch wound up being right. This kid's got some energy that really these players are attracted to. And I think he's probably the best backup quarterback in the country. And so, hey, thank you again for watching the deep dive by the Inside Texas Football YouTube channel. We really do appreciate you making us a part of your day. Use the promo code IT1 to get two months of InsideTexas.com for a dollar. Please like and subscribe to Inside Texas Football YouTube channel. We're climbing to 7,000. Help us get to that mark. Come see us at InsideTexas.com. 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