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2864: ROUNDTABLE: Challenges Faced by Local Administrations in Peace Agreement Implementation
[Music] The round table. Everyone welcome to Radmariel, round table with me, Yaj Grang, and today we are discussing challenges faced by the states in implementing peace agreement and ways to restore peaceful consistent among the communities. On 25th November 2024, the Arctic launch an annual governance forum that brings state governors and chief administrative status for yearly dialogue under the team forging sustainable peace-committed action in the extended RRC's transition. The forum forces dialogue among dialogues in common areas of governance, economy, peace and coordination of service delivery among the levels of government in South Sudan. The governor's chief administrative status. National ministers and head of national institution share experiences and challenges facing the respective sub-national governments and national institution alike. The annual resolution of the governance forum are supposed to improve on security, economy and economy and humanitarian situation and overall governance in the state. Many of the previous resolution from the forum remain un-implemented while it is practically impossible for most families in the villages across the country to avoid basic needs. The question we are asking our guests, our governors in the studio today is what challenges are being faced by the state in implementing RRC's and ways to restore peaceful consistent among the communities. As I said earlier, we were supposed to have governor Luis Lobo, the governor of Eastern Aquatoria, but he has been called for a national duty properly and has to respond to that. Then we have in the studio now, with us his honor, an excellency, governor Francis Marial, a board governor of RRC state. Generally, you are welcome to write a roundtable. Yes, General, you are welcome to write a roundtable. Thank you so much, Radu Mariah, it is a pleasure to be with you today and hear what you want me to say. Thank you so much, excellency. Of course, this is a platform where you will enteria with your citizen, with your people across the country, and particularly, if so, with the RRC state citizen. You will have an opportunity to talk to them and listen to them directly. This platform is your platform to use it to communicate your messages to your people and messages of peace and hope to all citizens across South Sudan and beyond. Adana, can you enlighten us as to what the forum was about? Why do you have to hold this annual forum every year? What is this particular – what is particular with the governor's forum? The governor's forum this year is just only to forge a sustainable peace among our people in the whole country, and especially at the state level. Sustainable peace means people have to remain home peacefully, and then they remain with the hope among themselves. Yes, thank you so much for letting us know about this. Adana, let's talk about your state, and that is a big country, I mean, state that has a good number of people scattered all across the state. So as I understand, there are many forums, there are many fronts of inter-communal conflicts in areas of Tones, areas of Borealis, especially with the Western Barakazal state, that the state government is trying to calm down the conflict and restore stability. So what is your government plans to bring about lust in peace and peaceful co-existing among the citizen of war-up and the neighboring state like Western Barakazal state? In actual fact, the case of Manyang between war-up and Western Barakazal has been resolved. People talk, the national government send a very high delegation to the state, to the two states, so that to calm down the situation, the solution was not to fight, but the solution was to sit and negotiate, the area belongs to whom, since time of British, and again time of the cartoon regime, and definitely these two communities of Wau and Anapuk, they agreed, and now the area is very calm, there is no one, almost nine months, or going to one year, the place is very calm, and people are just working together, going to Borealis and coming to Wau. How is it resolved? Yes, they have a dialogue, is it permanently resolved? Because the last time I was there, it was in September, and I understand there was a peace-keeping post that is put at the Vavazon, as this force has been removed, the force is still there, but not because of the continuous collages, the force is there, just only to maintain the movement of people, people coming from Gugrealis to Wau, and from Wau to Gugrealis. Is it not indicative of a situation that is their main result, and maybe presence of forces is the one making people not to have clashes, or you think the forces are there, just there as the process of transferring them, and the case has been permanently resolved. The case is in the hands of the Council of States, because the Council of States knows the borders, the County borders, the State borders, and then the National borders with other countries, so it is now pending for that. Governor, let me move to another area before we go to a case of Tonya East, your predecessor that is Honorable Excellency, Quelmore government. In fact, it is a legislation probably known as the Green Book. There were many crises, there were many crises and decays of this legislation, because about it, and it's a large capital punishment that was imposed by this legislation. Can you elaborate more, what is this legislation about, and why are citizens in the State against it? Then what is your plan? Is it to continue with this kind of legislation, or what is the plan of your government? The Green Book, in actual fact, is a book, or those which were passed by those of War Obviously, generally, and then it was passed through the War of Legislative Assembly. From there, it was also agreed by the Parliament, but the book actually is not very ruthless, because anybody who commits a crime or kill a person is to be taken to the community. And then when the community says, according to what the laws in the Green Book, then it can be punished according to agreement of the two parties, the relatives of the disease, and then the relatives of the who committed the crime. It is not being done without knowledge of the families. Governor, this is a controversial legislation as I understand it, because it has brought a clash between the citizens and the officials and the state government, especially for the last past year, and for our listeners and for general citizens across the country. Is it proper, and it is a reduction of the state government, to enact a law that gives capital punishment, refests the case to the communities, and for communities to educate on capital payment cases, is it proper, is it procedural in other words? The law is there, when the laws are there, the customary laws, and then the criminal laws, they are there, and then this law is passed simply because to detect those serious criminals, those who are wearing the tourist, but not upon everybody. Well, it is to detect crimes, yes, as you said. Your background, as I understand, correct me, right? Your background is from law enforcement agency, a police in other words, and before you became a politician, a governor, your use is to implement the law and the law is executed as it is. Now that you are a governor, will this law, is your government planning to proceed with this law, or are you trying to, what is your plan, are you trying to repeal the law, will your government repeal the law because of the outcry of the public, or are you planning to proceed with the law, will let the law be implemented as agreed by a previous government? The law in actual fact cannot be revealed, because it is an agreement between the community of the war of state, that this law is helping them in another way, because crimes have developed very seriously, so the law will just remain, but it can be just applied according to where we always apply criminal laws, then like what I said, there must be at least investigation, and then after investigation, proof of unionism, that that man has actually committed capital crimes. So from there, the two sides can be asked to agree, if they agree, then the law can do that. If they don't agree, then they go back to the compensation procedure, then they can be taken back to criminal law, especially before the court. We are dwelling on this particular question simply because it is in the interest of the citizen of war up, to know more about this law, and it is as well in the interest of the citizen of South Sudan and other state government to know this. Once again, we have criminal laws in the country, and how are they working? How is this particular green book different from criminal laws that exist in the country? Because you have said, if somebody committed a crime, it is persecuted by using a criminal law, and then it is also referred back to the community, and the community decides whether to go with the deal, what we commonly have a compensation, or an execution has to be done as per the criminal law. So how are these two laws, is a state enacted legislation, a kind of criminal law? I know it's not about capital punishment, the green book is not all about capital punishment, there are other also, but this particular section that deals with capital punishment, how are these two laws working concurrently in the state? As I said before, this law is not parallel with the criminal law. It is not also parallel with the customary law. It is based on the customary laws and then the criminal laws. Just simply because it was passed to deter the criminals, not to deter the population, it was just only to deter the criminals who were seriously deserving the community tranquility. Thank you so much, Governor, I think we have to proceed as we wait for Governor of Unity State who will be joining us, Chatelier, our colleagues are working on that to facilitate his coming to the studio, he will join us, Chatelier, our listeners. You are listening to writing right around table with me, Yaj Gran, and in the studio, we have Excellency, Governor of Warab State, Governor Francis Mariel, a year in the studio, and we are handling a case of Warab State. Yeah, our listeners would like to welcome our Governor, Governor of Unity State, Governor React-BM, top of Unity State, here in the studio. Before we give you my mic, let me come to Governor Francis. Eastern part of your state, and that is 20 East, has been in crisis for a very long time. And before your appointment, there were major conflicts that were going that caused a number of life. When you update us as to where this conflict resolution of this particular area is now, what is your government doing to resolve conflict in greater tone is, permanently, and also with the neighboring community of Roombegnoth and Chuebet. Governor. Thank you again. Tone is soon after my appointment, I spent only four days in the, in the, in the state headquarters, and I proceeded immediately to tone is, and there, I spent almost seven days talking and preaching the peace and security, the important of peace and security among them. So now, I have almost one month now, without anything again, that is no killing by night or cattle raiding or cattle theft, it has just come down, so it has come down now. And I think in the coming months, there would be no one another problem. Between Roombegnoth and, and Tone is, especially inside of Luangen, they have been together. They were, they were being living together long, long ago. And then, they are one community in actual fact, but what caused these differences is cattle raiding, and then the, the, the, the, the, the cattle theft is the one causing this, and this, it will be minimized, I think. When the cattle theft and cattle raiding is stopped, then there will be no another problem. We are also planning to make a connective connectivity route between Mapir and Maquayk of Luangen. If this road is implemented by our national government, then there will be a very great peace among these two communities, there will be very, very, very great peace among these communities, it will be permanent, because already, there were so many intermediaries among themselves, and killing your, your son of your sister there is very bad and they are feeling this is shame on them. So definitely, we will do this, the two, my counterpart, Roombegnoth and Roombegnoth ring. But as myself, we will do this, if we succeed to make this road, then it will create a market in between, a market in between. And then, we will also train a police, which is called livestock police, we will be moving with the cattle from there and there. That's a very good strategy, Governor, and let me, before I give my to excellency, Governor of Unity State, once again, a follow-up question, having a community police that move with cattle, this is a strategy that has not been tried in the country and I think this is a strategy that can work. How are you doing with your counterpart in the other side of the League of State, General Ring, Ringping, and presence of guns, Governor, you will agree with me, given your background, that if guns are in the hands of civilian, peace is always fragile. It can break hell any time. So how are you doing this thing? Because the community police, there will be accompanying cuddles, will have the same armaments as the Galwayo are over, when to rate one. And they could be heavily armed more than the National Army and the case, we have a case that happened two years or three years ago in the same area. So how are you doing this? The disarm is a national plan. It is a national plan. People are planning to disarm the youth and soon after when they are disarmed, then we know another problem. But we are saying this police is not the community police, it is live stock police. Live stock police from where, is it from national police or from? They are trained, this is one very, very, very, very good department in the police system. Okay. It is all called live stock police. We have so many departments, we have CRU, that is exactly the police. They are parallel to the army, they are trained like army, and then they are called CRU. And then we have this live stock police. We have border police, we have so many departments, VIT protection, then we have the diplomatic police. Police are of course, tropical police and so forth. And so forth. It is tropical police that is known by, come on and known by citizens. What we call community police is different, is different from live stock police because live stock police are equipped and they have house, they have donkeys. And then when the cattle are moving, they move, and then they put, they come somewhere not mixing. Are they from the community or from national police, this is a question that would want to be? They are national police because they are trained at the national police training centers. If this department has been in existence for a number of years now, why has it not been implemented all along? Because the first time I'm hearing about it. We have created this. We have created this, soon after our independence, we are trained so many of them in Rajaf. And then we took them 700 to board. And then with all the equipment they need. So this live stock police is not community police. Thank you for this clarification. Now our listeners, we have been joined by a governor of Unity State, whom we have been waiting for. He has joined us, governor, we are discussing challenges faced by the state in implementing peace agreement and ways to restore peaceful, consistent among the communities. And we were supposed to have governor Luis Le Bon, but unfortunately, he could not be here without because he has been called for another national duty that he has to respond to. Yeah, can you tell us more about Governor Reac? Can you tell us more about the governance forum? What is it about? What is it about to achieve? And with the number of governance forum, this is the governance forum number eight. For the last eight years it has been conducted. What has been achieved and what has not been achieved, governor? Well, thank you so much, the familiar I have for inviting us and this particular time. Indeed, this is the number eight of the forum, and it is the first time for me to attend the forum and as to regards to the achievements being made by the governor forum in the previous or this one. I am sure there has been a lot of achievements being met so far in the previous governor forum. Certainly that sometimes you can have that shipment today, but the next day there will be some hindrance, absence of sustainability of that shipment, for example. Like this issue of incidents, they always talk about the peace, development on the side of humanitarian. All this has been the discussion all along, but what happened and what I have learned is that sometimes you can achieve this program today and tomorrow it will not go the same because of others' external forces. This has been the situation that I have learned, but all in all we need to have a mechanism of making this achievement sustainable. Yeah, thank you, governor. The theme of the governance forum is forging sustainable peace, committed action in extended RRCs. As you said, it is implementing peace agreement in a manner that is sustainable and it tells that the government is committed to implement peace agreement during the extended period of the RRCs. What has been the challenges of peace implementation in your state, governor? The challenges of the implementation of peace agreement in my state and of course, the unity state is a part of South Sudan and the peace agreement is the peace of South Sudan as well and whatever is difficult to be implemented in the Republic of South Sudan is also being reflected in the unity state. I believe what does not work in the unity state also is what has not been implemented here and you are aware that there is a common talk in South Sudan now that some of the provisions have not been implemented, for example, and therefore, the unity state has no other mechanism to implement them and leave the people of South Sudan outside. So we are at the same level, all of us, for example, you have this issue of the deployment of five force, necessary five force, they have been graduated, we is a good step and they have not been posted to the work station due to other challenges as well and I can tell you in one of the counties of the unity state where there is no government police in Pangeyar County. Yes. And this is one of the challenges I can say that options of not posting, the train unified force is a challenge and in one of my counties because the only government official known within the framework of the law is a commissioner in the county in Pangeyar in Pangeyar, but the rest, they do not have salary, the whole organized forces in the county, you see, then how do you account them, if they do not have that mandate within the law itself. So this is one of the challenges that I have learned and it is not only that unity state as it is separate challenges, but it is connected because there are mechanisms responsible for these arrangements, for example, the ADB, the BMCC, all these mechanisms and other mechanisms, they are the one responsible for the development of the forces and it is hard, but people are trying. Governor, your state is one of the states that has been affected very much by the conflict and not only that by the conflict it has also natural disasters effect also on the life of people, but before I go into that, let me touch an aspect of salary, the welfare of staff and welfare of the security forces, then the motivation enhances the stability and peace in the area. The governance forum has been going on and the case of salaries, two to two to two, civil seven and an event to organize forces have been talk of many times and as I understand now 11 months or 12 months without salary and your state is blazed with the oil and you have two and three percents that goes to state government and although it delays, it comes. Could this not be used to pay salary as to motivate security forces and try to stabilize security in the area as you wait for refund of these two and three percents from the national government? Well, this is a good question and taken you back to the same answer that I was saying and before that, let me just tell you that I am six months old now in the office, yes, and while in the office, I am now familiarizing myself with the situation that has been happening and indeed, in the petroleum act, the oil producing states are given share of five percents and yes, that is three percents to the community and two percents to the state government. This is what is there and you are also aware that the fact that people don't have salary for a year now is because there is no money and our revenue, 80% of our revenue comes from the oil, it means the oil that we are talking of is not coming on time, this is one situation, but we have daily production and the oil that from the five lines from your area, I am not affected, I am still talking, thank you, sorry, this is one situation. Number two situation, I have learned that when I came to the office, the previous leadership team had issues with the management of these resources, and when I came in, I got those information, the three percents were blocked by the council of states because there is supposed to be a committee to handle these three percents, but be supervised by the governor in the state, and because these committees were not nominated, they were blocked by the council of the state, but when I came in, the council of the state requested me to nominate the people, then while moving on the tours to the counties, I managed to consult people, now I have already finished with the nomination, and I have submitted the names, the names are there, any time they will notify me of what will happen to those, this is another situation in regards to the three percents, the two percents of the government, yes, they have been coming, and for the field of this, six months, I only receive once. Okay, I do not know what is happening, but I believe this is the same situation of the fact that the oil is not going the way it used to be, and we hope that it will be accelerated very soon, while within that one, the one I receive, two percents, I made some initiatives. If you can see now in the state, the renovation of the internal roads is ongoing, and we have done this in our capacity, and we hope things will go mostly when we proceed with the work. So this is how I can answer you, I don't know if that satisfies you or not. Well, I think it is despite our listeners, and if they have further questions, they will ask, there will be time for them to interact with you later during the program. Now the last thing is about humanitarian saturation in your state, and can you update us what is the level of humanitarian suffering or saturation in your state, and what is your state government doing to elevate the human suffering caused by flats, particularly? It is true that we have this disaster of humanitarian situation in your state following the climate change now for almost five years, and it has been one of my priorities, and it is so serious, and we are making some planning. Before I was appointed, I think there was a dyke being constructed around the state and headquarter, Banteo, because the people have been displaced from the places, some of them are coming to the town, thinking that maybe this is a happen for them, and it becomes difficult for them to live, because the place where they can live is very small, and number two, they are staying in the plots of other people who are not there, and the dykes has been constructed around the town, and the town becomes very small, and the measures we have taken in the state, we have formed a task force responsible for the management of this disaster, and we have partners within the task force, the international partners, we are working together now as we speak, we decide to extend the dyke almost 10 kilometers away from the town, because the survey lens for the people has been submerged with water, then we decide to take the dykes backward, and then we are now pumping the water outside to the river, and then we allow people to go through their places in one side, and in the other side we are also extending it 20 kilometers away from the town, this is what we are managing within our capacity, and it is going well within the level of the town state, with the 2% that you are getting. Yes, and the partners are with us. What is the contribution of national government? Well, the national government is also promising, and we have been waiting, and yesterday we had a presentation from the Minister of humanitarian affairs, and he is also putting this on the next of the Minister of Finance, and when we go there, you will find the same scenario that we are discussing, that there is no money, there is no salary, this is the situation in which we are facing, but as people who came a long way with such issues, we are determined to move away from this situation, we are determined. So, this is the situation that we are in, as to the counties, it is the same situation, and almost four counties among the seven counties are affected this year, and we also manage to make some dives, intervening through the youth, giving them some time, something for work, then they can also help the community, and we give them an awareness, even before flooding, that they should move away from this ones area to the highlands with the idea, of course, and they are there now, but what we are after now is that normally when there is a lot of water in one of the years, know that that water will come with a lot of diseases, including the cholera, the disease or animals, you know, these are the issues that we are facing, so I want to agree with you that there are serious issues of humanitarian situation in my state, and hopefully we are determined, is in our capacity. Now, it is getting, it is inviting more questions, so you are discussing, very interesting Governor, you have said that a number of people who have been displaced were pre-worn and told to go to move to a high land, and that the high land does not necessarily mean that could be within the state, it could be with the neighboring areas also, or a state like war up and ruin a administrative area, the highlands are within the state, and if we feel also that we have issues with our highlands, we can even inform them, my brother, we can inform them, that let them go there, he has the same issue, and if he has the same issue, he will also tell you what we do. I want to mention the case of ruin, and how are you handling it, because I am reading from social media, a clash whereby the displaced community are clash with the host community, and the state government, the state and the administrative area, governments are working in order to resolve distance, so how are you, what do you tell your citizen, or how are you resolving the conflict between the host community and displaced community, especially when host community feel that their areas are invaded, their areas are renamed, their areas are taken, how are you doing the two leaders from the two areas? I think we had a discussion on SSV PC the day before yesterday, and it was on air now. The issue of disputes on the border, and I was very clear in my statement that in one of the solutions, in the fourth governor, six governor forum, it will result that this issue of land disputes as a committee and institution to handle this, and the communities should be advised by the leadership of the civil state, for example, to cease from those activities until that committee is instituted, then it is where we will know that these places belong to these people, the other places belong to these people. As for now, our people are living in peace, there are no problems, and the clients you might have heard, some of them involved with the cattle theft, even the people who belong to the same place, had the same issues, issue of cattle theft. As for now, there is no any problem, and if it happens that the water are coming to us, we will go to them, we will discuss this, and if it happens, because there is water coming from the north in Nuba mountain, if it happens also, they have a problem of water coming from that direction, and we have a space on our side, you will come there, we will come there, the brothers and sisters, the same people in the two different states, now let me come to Honorable Excellency Francis, a conflict in the north governor, not in the Sudan, as a lot of humanitarian as well as economic impact on the state, be you being the frontline state, in other words, you border the Sudan, and of course, a number of IDPs have returned, and quite your population has been swollen, I know that area of particular, and also the neighboring communities around, in the region, other places like Goryal are also affected, because IDPs have returned to their areas, and they could be settling there. Then there is also an aspect of this economic hardship that we all know in the South Sudan and prices are to the sky, and people do not have anything in the pocket, and people are starving, no food, and they are also motivated by flood also. So how is the state government trying to combat these forces affecting your people in the state of war up governor? Thank you again, thank you for asking that question of the attendees, and the people from the north, yes, in fact so many of them came, thousands of them returned back, South Sudanese, and then North Sudanese. The Sudanese, they came, and then they were located areas whereby the NGOs, they organized the humanitarian NGOs can give them food and shelter, and other things, which are human needs, yes, the people of, the indigenous people of war up, those citizens of war up were accommodated, and then after they were served, some of them were taken to the yams, to the counties. So now the group we have, the Sudanese in the three areas, and they are being served now. Which areas are those in particular? In each area, we have Mayana Boone, we have other people in Turali, near Turali, these two camps are there, and they are receiving the services from the humanitarian wing, and not the state government mentioned, they said there is nothing to give, because then what we do is to give them tools whereby they can get lands, and then they cultivate for themselves, so that next year they can survive by their own, what they produce. Yeah, thank you for that, Governor, in the news yesterday, as I was going through the news, I read your statement, and your statement of promising to open all the roadblocks, destroy them, and take them away, all the roadblocks, because the roadblocks have an implication of prices in the market too, it enhances the hinder, the movement of people is the movement of people, because if you don't have money, you can not move, also with a lot of stavances along the way, what made you to make this statement? What have you observed, and what benefit will it have on the citizen? I made that statement simple, because this was brought out from the Governor's Forum. At one county, the roadblocks were very serious, they were texting the convoys, especially those cars, trucks going to ruin, going to unity state, those going to... Not in Myanmar, to a gay administrative area, they were being taxed heavily by a non-group, and I sent somebody four days ago before we raised this problem, and then they were locked down yesterday, and somewhere even apprehended, those criminals. So now, maybe, beginning from today onwards, there will be no other cases of roadblock, so they are dismantled, totally, for once and for all. So, as a roadblock at the turquen, is it also, you have been travelling from wau to quite joke during your movement in other counties in the state, and also for official function in the neighboring state, where you are not seeing this roadblock before, are you not in communication with the lower levels of your government, so that this statement is met, and action is taken now, when it was retreated in the Governor's Forum? Before that, I was not there, I was... before that, I was not there, I am now 43 days governor in the office, I just appointed recently. So when I went, I got all this information, so before it was being brought up in the Governor's Forum, then I already gave orders to close down all the roadblocks in my state, especially the area of pre-county, and then the opening of the roads to ruin administrative area, and then to unity state, we are the, what do we call, a joke quite, area of a joke quite, so maybe the coming months, there will be no any problem of roadblock in those areas, and then this was not made by the government, it was criminals who were organized themselves to do that job, and then what will happen to these criminals, as you said, because a criminal that has audicity, that has courage to mount roadblock, and that's all the vehicle that passed there, of course, there could be armed one, or there could be highly connected, or there could be official in the government, so it was the order just met and blocked them, and everybody overseas is arrested, or they are followed up and will brought to book. Up to now, we have not arrested anybody, because those people were connected with the system, and we are calling themselves, the CID, some were calling themselves, the National Security, some were calling themselves, the military intelligence, and so on, so all these, I gave orders the day before that they have to go back to the units, otherwise, if we return back or they return back, then the law can take the measures. Thank you, this is the same thing also, I had some time back in the United States government, that a number of roadblocks, just a group or sometimes a group of people can just decide to put a roadblock somewhere, and text people, even people moving with their feet, they are asked to pay something, how are you handling these things, is it, are you facing the same thing, can you corroborate this information, and how are you combating this thing, Governor Craig, have you heard anything recently, after my appointment, well, that's why I am asking you, I haven't heard anything yet, yes, that means something has been done, and it's not there now, it is to be there, even when I was not appointed, I used to hear this story, but after I was appointed, that was the first thing I did, because my state is one of the states, that has this issue of infrastructure, and when we want to take anything for the people, it has to go along, but we have a problem in the river, which we have also discussed, that are individuals within the river, organizing themselves, but the bordering states are now discussing this with the peace partners, the security arrangement, Chapter 2, we are discussing this, if at all those forces in the river belong to one of the parties to the agreement, they should remove them, what do they do in the river, the attacks of people, the boats that are moving, yes, this is, thank you for bringing this thing up, Governor, now along the same line, years back, two or three years back, there was a case of a plan to dredge the rivers, with hope that it will lessen the level of water, and maybe channel water to flow, so that water that has covered areas, residential areas could move along the channels. So how far have this gone, and can you update us on this? Well, let me put it this way, because it has invited a serious discussion, and I can recall, at that time, a lot of issues we discussed. I think it has been adjusted from dredging to clearance, so what we know now is the clearance, clearing of the river, not dredging. What does that mean, clearing? I think the clearing of the river, the new meaning of this clearing of the river is, the water is stuck somewhere, and the river has to be clean, so that it allows the water to flow, even the one is stuck outside, just move very fast, because there are a lot of grasses within the river itself, it has to be clear, you remove the grass, you remove the grass, so that it allows the water to go. The dredging has taken us in different contexts, and by this now, as we speak, the other side of the river, starting from the bridge, and goes along to that side, the Egyptians are now working on this, they are almost finishing, then we will see where they will start again. So, what are the Egyptians doing? They are removing grass, as you say, remove grass, are they deepening the levels of the river, removing sun that has been accumulated over time, not actually removing, it is clearing, they are clearing the grasses, and if necessary, the bank of the river can be also adjusted, widened, widened, so that it allows the water to get in, and then it continues, clearing. Then that is dredging in another way, clearing, the clearing you are talking about is dredging in another way, it does mean the dredging according to the recent discussion means you dig it. Remove the sun, remove the sun, widen the river, widen the river, but what I am explaining now is different from what you are telling me. Is clearing the grass and expanding the river? Not expanding, that is not expanding. What is being done to the banks of the river? The bank of the river is to be clean, the grass that are there has to be clean, so that it goes together with the river. For governor for public accountability and transparency, why is it not being covered by media? Even state media is not covering this thing, why? Well, this is a good question, and the national government is the one responsible for this project, it is not the state government project, but because it is done in our state and we are hosting them, but the means of water is the one responsible for this. So this thing is being done silently, the citizen, the South Sudanese are not aware of this, despite the intense discussion about this, it is not happening. Is it something to consider, because your action must be accountable to people's demand? Is it something that you can consider, we discussed with the national government, so that it is covered with media, so that South Sudanese are aware that this thing is happening, because what I know to my knowledge is that people are silent about it, and it means that maybe the discussion is stopped from where people disagree, and so nothing is being done about. I don't think so, and we have been monitoring it, there is no serious issue on this, and it's only that the national government sometime is go there and see the progress, and we have been moving with them. Thank you so much, Governor's in the studio, to all our listeners across the country and beyond, you are listening to the Raman table with me, Yaj Garan, and in the studio we have two governors, the governor of VARAP, state excellency governor, Francis Marielle, and we have governor of unity state excellency, governor Reakbim. Now, it's an opportunity for us to discuss to discuss with you as we go for a break or one or two minutes. Stay tuned. 101 FM radio Miraya, powered by the people, uniting the nation, your preferred station, the voice of peace. Come on, come on, let me ride, let me ride, let me ride, let me ride, let me ride, let me ride. The Raman table. Welcome back from this very, very brief commercial break, and we are doing this thing because we have lost the first hour as we were waiting for guests in the studio. We are discussing challenges faced by the state in implementing peace agreement and ways to restore peaceful coexistence among the communities and in the studio we have the two governors of VARAP and unity state. Now, it's opportunity for you to interact with them, and I ask you to go direct to your questions 0 9 1 0 6 7 8 7 9 or 0 9 1 2 0 6 8 1 0 1 or 0 9 1 2 0 6 7 9 2 9 is now. Hello, right? Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. Is that one David Magap? No, yes, sorry for confusion. Hello, we lost him. Hello? Yes. Good morning. Good morning to do cabanas in the studio. Welcome, peace boy, and your question briefly. I'm glad to have two governors in the studio this morning, and the life of Francis Maria La Vora Vora Vora. Yes. Francis Maria La Vora, the governor of Vora Vora, the state. Your government has been achieved by killing a person with gunshot wounds in Malan faith in 20th or 20th county. Of with you, you have been appointed to come and rescue life of citizens of this state, while your forces or your clothes for protection got, take a person and go and kill him. Is this one right or not? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Hello, right? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah, go ahead. Your question. Yeah. Yeah. You are connected with all four, but I'm not going to work with that. Go ahead, yes. Yeah. I agree the honourable answer in say, La Vora between two state, the unity and Vora Vora Vora said. Yes. First of all, I want to start with the governor of Vora Vora Vora said, yeah, I welcome to the studio there in Raja Muraia. But you are appointed last month. And Vora, there is some conflict in Vora. But I am a simple man, but I want to give you advice. Go ahead with your question, briefly, please. You have one minute. Okay. My question is like this, all of us, between 20th and 20th, there is a, there is a conflict. How can you come between two communities to be in peace? How can you do that? Because all the governors of Vora have said, I find it and they are not, you know, do the all-able best. Thank you. To the government of unity, yes. The government of unity said, unity said, I think there is a disaster there in unity state. But you are there in the head of state. Did you call the NGOs to, to provide the food items for the, for the citizens of unity state? Thank you so much. Another thing, another thing, another thing. Because about the current team, did you, did you, did you, did you, did you, uh, uh, provide the security arrangement there? Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Uh, hello. Ready, Muraia? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah, Jim is from, to in South country, you have your government in this (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) (speaking in foreign language) - Morning, ma'am, your question directly. - Thank you, my first question is saying what are the plans of all the governance of tennis state so that they should be having unifying, understanding, or agreement so that our people should be these arms, mostly civilian, because you can see all these values being caused or caused because of the arm or the ability of the arm in the end of the civilian. Did they sit down and table on how the disarmament should be done generally in all tennis states or the administrative areas so that we should remain secure without being insecure by our own people. My last question, what are the mechanisms that you people discuss during the governance forums, and we also need to lead you down late to our people so that we know we should have to know what was the reason you guys were gathering in freedom, what are the outcome, and what are the solution and implementation which you are going to apply on the thing that you are preaching that is the governor of the forum. - Thank you, ma'am. - Thank you. - Thank you, ma'am. Hello, everybody. - Hello, everybody. - Hello, everybody. - Yeah, are you in the church? - Good morning. No, no, I'm not in church. - Yeah. - You're both like that, passing by. - Okay, go ahead with your question. Your name is your question. - Yeah, call me in the log, ma'am. - Galois, meanwhile. - And Bohr, don't worry. - Okay, Galois, from Bohr, yes? - Yes, I would like to welcome the guests, and it is indeed very... it is an opportunity to interact with the governor. - Mm-hmm. - I really appreciate you. So, to the governor of the United States, I would like to first ask his excellency, the governor of the United States. The United States has been in... applauding people have been... have been suffered a lot for the issue of flooding. And in this, the United States is the one having oil, like that of often ice. Now that you just come in, what are your plans from that present to you, people are getting to restore this life, because they have been suffered for the issue of flooding. And, number two, the United States has been... having this... I mean, the issue of cattle riding with a neighboring state were up. So, now you come together as the head of those states. What will be the solution for this - Up. - Thank you so much. Hello? I think we lost him. Hello, Adam, Raya? - Good morning. - Good morning. - Good morning. Your name and your question? Briefly. - You are speaking... you are speaking to Daniel. - Daniel. - Go ahead. - My name? - Yes. That's Ebola. I appreciate it. You have to learn, actually, for making it possible this morning. And also, I appreciate it. The two governors who are in the studio. My question, I have two questions, actually, and to our governor, who is not in governor, what I'm saying. One question, naturally, is very short and brief. What's planned, actually? What's planned? What's planned, actually, is the governor of what I'm saying is placing to bring the previous lead matter, the previous candidate. That there are some criminals, actually, who have met, say before him, and the killed people that some are hiding and they escape the cases. What's planned, is it doing, actually, to bring those who have previously committed a crime into bookdays? One, then two, number two. Why are our governor, actually, our governor is actually formed a essential court, actually, a essential court that can help him to trial the cases, like these are cut-al-reding and ugly, and the type of the... of the goal. This is what is filling the country, actually. So, he has to form independence, or, actually, to... it's something we need to tackle, we have to try in these cases, and then, before the cut-al crime, we should be executed at the higher level. Actually, it's good, it's going well with it. My question, actually, to governor of the United States, what's planned, actually, is he doing, in conversation, with the governor of what I'm saying, to come, the attention, that will arise between the... you know, between the two neighboring states. If they need a... advice, if, then, actually, there will be... a problem, actually, in the swampy area there. So, I'm dividing them so that they can operate, and can give up the plan that will help us to reduce this inter-communal conflict, and also this type, actually, has to be reduced. Thank you so much, my own. Hello, Adam Rayan. Hello, Adam Rayan. Hello, Adam Rayan. Yeah, your name and your question? My name is Deng Akoda-Kot. I'm calling from WOW. Yeah, Deng, from WOW, go ahead. Thank you so much. My question to Honorable Francis Maria Labour, and... and his excellency, Riam, M, I'm sorry to call you Honorable. Yeah, it's okay, go ahead. Yeah, first question is to... to Maria Labour, I just want to ask a simple question. And to both of them. One of the question is, where exactly, because I believe when you are managing a program, you need to know the thoughts. I'm talking about accelerating and this... Hmm. ...and conflict. Where do citizens, the mayor community, get guns and bullets? I know that there are no guns manufacturing in turn, in turn, in turn, in the United States. Where do they actually come from? I am asking that question because when they are planning to manage it, they must view out, where is this problem originating from? Right. That's what the question is. Another question is... to Honorable Maria Labour. Could you please buy citizen ideas of moving away from WOW headquarters? To turn in North County, that's WOW town, I mean WOW town, or to turn it where the conflict is most... mostly escalating ever now and then. So that you will be closer to this community won't attempt and your community forces are around. Because I know in the previous, when the conflict was erupting in those areas, you took exactly if I could not. Three days to go and visit the community, while the community are fighting, they are nice. Three. Honorable Maria Labour, I know whenever you are traveling to Tohnj, you move from WOW town, which is the capital of Western Barakazale, then you move there. For your state, please construct a road, directly from WOW headquarters to WOW, I went to from WOW headquarters to WOW town, that is far away now. So that whenever you are traveling with your security force, you move there, instead of closing to the other state, then you go, which takes mostly by could not... if it is not wrong, seven hours, six hours traveling, instead of traveling to WOW, from that state, you move to this area. One last question, please. I want to talk about green book. Yes, briefly, please. Yes, green book is... is it only for WOW citizen, because now WOW and Juneteenth state and this one, they are all neighbors? Is it affecting? Because when during crisis and light, the citizen from WOW, close and read from the University of America, and also send to the room back which is legacy. Does it also affect those who cross the other state and go and do cut out tapes and that? Thank you so much. Now we have another question from our listeners. We have this one from Joe Koal, Mayom Dit, from Kojok. Yes, my appreciation to Governor O'Raw said, how will you, the question is, how will you go to improve the life of a citizen innocent civilian, give to high prices in the market? We were being known by flood, I think. Then let's go ahead, we get this question from our court. The issue of the executive is beyond governor's capacity. That is a comment we have, Dr. Majak Marko, from the North County saying this. My general question to both governors in the studio, governors of O'Raw and governor of Yinti State, I think the question, I think didn't send that one very well. This is a comment from somebody in Toynodana. Doing completely permanent, eliminate the, the, the, the, the, the criminal conflict. I think the question is not well-framed. We have this one from, I think this is not a question you can go to. We have Andrea Camillo in Pago area, say, what up, government, state, state governor, excuse of killing, hospitalized people with gun, shot wound in Malau, in Malau face is your point to add in fire. We have this one from Daniel, who says, my two questions to, to governors, what will you do to bring previously matters and fidgetive to book? We have, I think the last one, let have, which are it more or later on, my, from Kellerman Care. My question are directly heading to O'Raw state governor. Mr. Governor, what, Mr. Governor, what are your plans or what are you doing? I think this is it. I think, let me give our governors opportunity now to respond to a number of questions and let me begin with governor of unity state governor. Thank you so much once again and I appreciate the listeners for being very active in issues related to the nation. Let me start with some question here. Someone asked as to whether there is a food for the people affected by the disaster, for example, the end use and all those and the issue of security. Well, of course, in our country, we have the Minister of humanitarian affairs in the country, in the national government, and that ministry is responsible for coordinating an assistant from end use, the national community, for example, and at the level of state, we have RRC that also coordinates the activities of those end use. Indeed, the reports where there is a problem always is coming through those channels and those issues are settled through that line and in my state in particular, the assistant given to the people, especially those affected by flooding is there, although it is not that enough. But as a nation, I advise people should not think only on assistant. We need to be independent to have our food and this is what I have been advocating when I was trying that people must cultivate. We must go to a culture that we have food, because what we are getting is just a relief for some time, not permanent. Now we have our country, so we need to work hard, so I want to tell him we are doing it, but we should not just think on this, we have to work on ourselves. Issues related to securities, yes, this is one of the issues that I have worked in when I was there. I had a series of conferences at Biden use involving the leaders, opinion leaders, elders, community leaders, spiritual leaders. We had a series of conference meetings with the community so that people live in peace and I believe the situation of unity state is different from the past. If there are factors that are seen and that there is a peace now in place, I think my interaction with the communities recently is one of the factors, in addition to other factors, as to the plans for disarmament of the civil population in the country. This is Yomis, ask this question. Well, I agree with Yomis that during the crisis, almost everybody has got a gun. And where they get those guns, we are even asking ourselves, all of us, where they get the guns. When we decide to disarm them, so we need to have a modality and we need to have a low that gives us the mandate to respond if there is a resistance, for example. And of course, this is very important. We cannot just do it that way. There are procedures to be followed. We can have the law to be passed by the parliament. And that law will entail a lot of things. This is what I can suggest in my view, because if we do it just randomly, we will find ourselves confronting ourselves with other problems, to more problems, yeah. Yes, and then there will be no legality on those, right? Yes, the government is the entity responsible for the protection of the people. Now, things are different. They have the guns, you tell them to bring the guns, they will not accept it. Then you use force, then they use force. Now, this is the crisis and we are not after that, but we need a low. That gives us the mandate to do the disarmament. Disarmament should not be at the level of the state. One state, for example, it should be a nationwide disarmament involving all the the SSVDF, the organized forces, and then we do it once and for all. This is how I come and this. With the resolution of the governor forum, somebody asked this. Yes, the governor forum will be closed on Monday, next week, and his excellence, the president will be the one to close it. But now the forum is working on the solutions. Among those solutions, that there is need for mechanism to monitor the implementation of those solutions. I think when the resolution come out, we will see how we can implement the resolution. With Galois in board, the plan of 5% of the oil, yes, of course, the plan is there. We are planning to make the development for these 5%. If we get them and we are also planning to make sure that this issue of disaster, I mean the flooding here, it needs a sustainable solution because it is a good time now for us to have it at our generation because it has never happened in our country, that flooding to that extent. And this will inform everybody that you should not build your house anywhere. So if there is a reason for you to construct a concrete house, you should also consider this flooding. And it is a good reminder for us, such that now we see how we can construct the dice permanently. And that's it. And with the issue of cattle theft and cattle ratings between the estates, this is what we have been doing. My touring including his excellent governor when he was there. And he was also touring for the same reason that there is no need for us to go raid cattle. I remember when I was in my own county, or reason, four or four months ago, I had a conference with a number of people, as I mentioned before, including the spiritual leaders. One of the spiritual leaders told me that some of us, the spiritual leaders themselves, he was referring to themselves here, that are a part of this game, you see, and it is good that you bring us together. This is a good conference for us to advise ourselves because they will be telling you to go and get the cattle. And then when they come, you will be given something because they perform something, you know. Now we are engaging them. That is the solution. The fact that you are here now in the United States, things are normal is because of those initiatives. So we will keep initiating those peace conference, including actually a new visit to our estate, neighboring state. And this is what we are planning. And I am planning to go to lakes, to go to a raft, including a bay and a river and it is 13 million. There were these things also I know you are about to wind up with the question that was asked to you. There is a plan opening of mobile court in Ben Thieu. What is it about? What is this mobile court about? Good. This is one of the planning we have now. Last last last time when I left from here, I took with me the mobile court because I don't have a judge in my state. There is no judge. In the whole of a state, no judge. There is no judge. For the last 13 years, no judge. After the war, no judge. Governor, your background, you are justice. You were in a high court. Not in a high court. In a military justice. In a military justice. And you... Can I finish this? It looks like I am inviting a lot of questions. But I will counter that. No problem. Let me finish it. Last time, we requested the hip justice to give me some judges. We go together. Then we help of the rule of law of enemies. And they need to facilitate for these judges. Then they were there for a month. They almost try 100 cases, more than 100 cases of different crime murders, sexual violence, other serious crimes. Then we agree that we will have another mobile court, maybe in four months' time. Now we were supposed to send the mobile court by the same team. But I think they had a budget constraint. Then I took over this. Now... I know that these were having budget constraints. The rule of law of enemies. Okay. But maybe they will be... They will help me next year. But I took over this. You are from the second? Yeah, on my own. On the second of next month, that is next tomorrow, the mobile court is going to United States. And on Tuesday, the third, the Tuesday will... there will be opening. Thursday or Wednesday. One of the days, there will be opening. Where I will be there, myself. I will go purposely to go and open this mobile court. And they will be there for a period of three weeks. And then they will rest for the Christmas. Then we will start again next year together with the rule of law. Then we will continue from there. Okay. Can you finalize? To make it final. There is this issue of cattle tape in the borders. I think I have answered this. And somebody was saying, where did the civilian get the gun from? This is the question that is lingering in our mind. But we will keep asking this. I think the governor of Wara will answer this thing because he comes from police and he should be having an intelligence of... Where are citizens getting guns from? Governor, over to you. Thank you again. Mariah, the guns. Okay. The use of obtaining guns is a very, very, very serious question. Where they get guns, nobody knows. Even you, even myself. In police, in police, yes. Unless somebody is caught. And then us, where he got the gun, investigated properly, and he proves to us that he got this from somebody, cold, or from anybody in the organized forces. But now I cannot say where they can get these guns. Because some may be getting guns from the Sudan, because Sudan is now at work and some are selling away the guns. Maybe they get them, especially at my state. And even they said, "Oh, my brother, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes." Excellent. Are you really honest in... Let me say this word for the lack of better word, in saying that the government, the whole of government, with all its intelligence are resources, does not know where the guns, the civilian are getting guns and munitions, and maybe blame could be the situation of Sudan, which is started over a year ago. We say that the problem that we have been having all this time, with civilian having guns, is unknown. The spread of the guns started during the time of our differences, when we fought each other during the struggle. So, some got these guns from the factions, where they were fighting each other. Maybe that was my... That is a liberation war. Liberation war, there was a problem between those who were fighting, who were liberating such a that. They differ, and then they fought each other. That is maybe where the citizens, they used got the guns. Honorable in your state, I don't know which year exactly, but about two years ago, a case that involved the military police and the citizen in Tony East. That Oberian, Oberian, the garrison and citizen with a number of casualties from the military. And that's the crisis and questions, asking ourselves, where do they get guns to the extent of overpowering the national government? Where are they getting munitions? If you say that the guns were found where were gotten during the liberation war, that is understandable, yes? But why are they getting munitions? They could be running out of ammunition. Well, so why are they getting ammunition? I mean, an excellency governor, knowing very well that you were serving in police, and police as an intelligence, you have presence on the ground, you have, you serve the government. Where is it? Where is the sauce? We still have discretion to you. And as I mentioned before, that the threat of the weapons started from 1991 into the hands of the civilian. And then it does not stop because we have not been peace also. We have not been in peace in our country, as you know. And as I, the guns still continue going into the hands of the civilian. That may be the source of getting munitions and then more arms. Thank you for that. Yeah, you can proceed with the question that we're asked, and particularly the question that I can remember very well, and I've written it down, and I also, it was asked by a caller, and it is asked through text message. And it is a question involving your bodyguards, accused to have killed the wounded person who has been hospitalized in Malanpek. Can you confirm this and what happened really, or give the true background to this allocation? I don't have knowledge about that, because the person who asked may not be well informed. It is not Malanpek. Malanpe, Malanpe, Malanpe faced something like that? No, not Malanpek. So, what did it happen? What happened? That is why I said he has not been informed properly, because these are security issues, and they are not to be discussed at the level of the radio. I understand, yeah. Yes. The security issues always are segregated. So, they are investigated, secretly, until proof the union is doubled out. So, he is behind time, that person who asked that question. So, actually, in other words, you are confirming that the extrajudicial killing had happened. But it cannot be discussed. No, I don't know. I don't know. This is why I said he might have not been informed properly, because I don't know. You can proceed with the rest of the question that you were asked. Somebody from Shahibat, Jim is asked that the Shahibat youth are killing the bongo in Google. Yes. Yes. There is somebody from 27. This question already is now on the table between me and then my counterpart, General Ring, and then we will soon after going back from here, we will see, we will visit the area and then discuss this issue. If it is true, then we will try to find out those criminals who are raiding the bongo areas, the bongo villages. This is what I can say. Then, then another question is that unity among his states, disarmament. It has been answered by my counterpart, just this disarmament. Disarmament is a general question all over the South Sudan. And it is now being planned by our national government to make a comprehensive disarmament in all the states, so that we remain in peace. Disarm this youth by all means this is a general question to all the governors. And then another question that planned to bring criminals by Daniel, my own, plan to bring criminals who kill people to books. We are already now at the plan to take the, there are some already in prison now, those who kill. They are now aware that I visit to prison, there were almost 500 people in the prison. About these 500, almost 300 or 350 were waiting trial. Matter cases? Not matter cases, other simple cases, matter cases, whole. And then when I get a judge, because I have only one judge at the said level of the high court, and then the other two judges of the second class judges, and they are not able to try cases with matters, matter cases. So I will ask the chief judges to get me at least two and one to be deployed in 12, 12,000, 12 is another one, Tony North and Gogreal is. And then the prison one can deal with those of Gogreal West and Treet County. If I get three, then it will be enough for what they said to do all major cases, criminal cases, leading to death. Another case that the forming courts to try cases at the level of the war up has entered, that when I get these judges, then the cases will be, will be solved, will be tried talking about the cattle raiding in war up. It is a common thing between all the three, three, three states, the lakes, war up and unity. The youths are raiding each other, the raiding cattle from here and there. So what we will do, we will make a join, join a policy that will by all means, upper hand those who will be continuing, making cattle raiding from county, from state to state. And we agree as leaders who will agree to do this, and then by providing a good, good organized forces to be our arm one. And then the roadblock. Another person who is called in Akut also asked for the removal of hit quarter from war up to from Quayyuk to war up. And then from either from Quayyuk to war up or to to him. And they say that for a while or six months to solve the cases which are there, because Quayyuk is very far from these volatile areas. I cannot remove the said hit quarter. No, I think that the caller is asking you if you can move to those areas, you call volatile areas. Yes, like Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony. So that you can be closer, because he appreciated your movement to the area. He's spending his three days there. After your appointment, you went to the state, he spent three days and you move to the hotspot areas. So that is subtided the conflict. So he's asking requesting if that can be done. Is it something it can be done? It is in my policy. I will not be sitting in the office. During this time, when I go back from here, I will be there to solve very, very, very serious cases. My present there will solve some problem to itself. So he's right to tell me that he is 100% right, because when I went to Tony's and then to Tony's house, there is now a calm between the youth. They are not killing each other. There is no another roadblock. There is no cattle raiding. There is no cattle theft. Do you go with the instrument of implementing the green book or what do you go with? No, that is not the threat. I talk peace and security. The importance of peace and security to the people and to the youth. And then the roadblock, I already talked that the roadblock has already been dismantled, starting from yesterday up to now the roadblock are dismantled. So there is no fear. The roadblock will not be there, but there will be checkpoints controlled by the government, if there is no proper control by the government or by the government or about these road checkpoints, then there will be flow of weapons and other things. Those things like weapons, mission, flow to the government. So the checkpoint purpose for clarity to our listeners, the checkpoint that you permitted as a governor of the state is for security clearance. They will not be, are you saying it or record, that there will not be asking citizens to pay? Not citizens. I mean, the trouble is, I am trying to say. The trouble is, there is a policy also that there must be, what we call something for the government to, to, to, to, to, to, for his fuel and other things. What is that thing? We are very little, not one. What is that thing? how do they call those economies they know? That's here. These taxes are always imposed by the government so that they get something to run the work. Do you have a fix? Because we are citizens are listening to you. And whatever a statement you are making now is the policy and the citizen will have to face the tax collector and say this is what the governor said, the law says I'm paying. So is there any fixed amount? Taxes are always fixed by the government. Even me, I'm being taxed, my salary is being taxed. That's true. You now in the city here you are also taxed. Why not taxing the car? That is a more truck. So taxes are the government policy but should not be exaggerated. Like what happened in the area whereby a vehicle is taxed with one million. It is very bad. So that is why I dismantle the whole roadblocks are to be dismantled. Do you have a rain? Can you recall a rain that a vehicle that a carring goods can pay? It is in the book that the financial people know that one. That's true. Thank you so much, governors in the studio. To all our listeners, you are listening to the right around table with me, and we are discussing what are the challenges that the states are facing in trying to restore peaceful, coexistence and implementation of peace agreement in the country. And in the studio we have two governors and I want to give each governor now an opportunity to talk to your people, South Dennis, another thing, in other words, your last remarks as we wind up our discussion in the studio. I want to begin with the governor of the entire state. Thank you. Well, my message to our people, the people of South Dennis, is that I know very well what we are discussing here is a problem to one of our states and is a problem to all of you, the people of South Sudan. But sometimes we must admit that these problems have been caused by ourselves indirectly or directly. And for us to move away from this situation, we need to be good citizens. We need to have peace among ourselves. We need to work hard so that those social issues can also be resolved through hardworking. And if at all problem arise, we need to solve it amicably among ourselves because we will not bore anybody from this world to come here and solve our problem. We will remain the same people, only the mechanism for us to live in peace, is to love ourselves, to love our country, and to work hard, especially those who have his skills to do something can work hard on their own. Those who know how to do manual jobs can also try their best to make sure that they don't face problems of survival. And particularly, I remind our people taking the statement of his excellence as the president during the forum that people must go for our culture. This has cultivated so that we have enough food on our table. This is the message I can tell to our people. Thank you so much, Governor, the Governor of United States for your message to our listeners across the country and beyond. Governor Francis, what do you want to say to your citizen across the country and beyond? To my citizen at my nation, the Republic of South Sudan, and to particularly my citizen in Warabi State, I would like to say this year is a year for peace. We are now winding up our forum, the Governor's forum, and the resolution which will be made there, we are going to implement them accordingly. And through our stop, during all these deliberations, we really face our talks on peace and security at our nation. So I would like to tell people that this year, the Governor's are going to accept the effort to let the people remain in harmony and then avoid criminal acts and then encourage the local business, especially the official scheme as mentioned by our President during the opening remarks. So secondly, we want to, I want to tell people just to forgive each other because giving something, reconciling or giving your brother peace is the only solution to our problems in South Sudan. So this is what I can say. Governor I want to ask you one thing before I close the session. You have been moving across the state and we have, that has been publicized, highly publicized and welcome of, with all your finding in the state of unity, what are the critical issues that your government would want to resolve and how much time will you bring all these issues under arrest? In one minute please. Well, you see, unity state is among the states of South Sudan affected by the conflict of 2013. And for you asking me to estimate a time of how I can resolve those issues, this is a question of peace within the country as whole. And at my label, I manage to calm the people now. People are living in peace and I will continue to make peace among our people within the state and with the neighboring states. And we need to have a law. I mean, the rule of law must rebuild because some of those problems can be settled by the justice department. Thank you so much. Governor, Excellency is governor of Warab State Francis Marial and Excellency, governor of the unity state, ReactBeam. Thank you very much for honoring our invitation to write a Marial Roundtable this Saturday and for you to have an opportunity to engage with your citizens. We wish you all the best in your endeavor to restore peace in South Sudan. To all our listeners across the country and beyond, you have been listening to write a Marial Roundtable with me, Aj Grangh, and we are discussing challenges faced by the states in implementing peace agreement and ways to restore peaceful co-existence among the communities in the state across South Sudan. Thank you very much. Stay tuned for next session, a program of this station. [Music]