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"Be There or Be Nipless:" Nip Ban Looms over Sandwich, MA | 5.2.24 - The Howie Carr Show Hour 4
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[bleep] [bleep] [bleep] [bleep] [bleep] [bleep] [bleep] [bleep] [bleep] [bleep] [bleep] [bleep] [bleep] [bleep] [bleep] You may have heard the ads the last few days. There's another attempt to ban nips, little small alcohol bottles in another Massachusetts community. A few months back, it was defeated in Plymouth. Now they're going after the liquor stores in the town of Sandwich down on Cape Cod. And it's just ridiculous. I mean, so many problems facing the state and, you know, a place like Lexington are banning a single container water bottles. And they tried that in Sandwich a few years back, and it was stopped. This is just, in these resolutions, calling for a ceasefire in the Boston City Council, the Arlington town meeting. Why don't they just stick to real business and stop trying to screw up people's lives? So the vote, this is not going to be one of these votes where you just go in from 7 to 8 p.m. This is a vote at the town meeting. And you have to go into the town, you have to go to the town meeting at the Sandwich Middle High School. And that's on Monday night, starts at 7 o'clock. And this is, you know, it's going to hurt business. It never helps matters when they try to ban these nips. It just means people go further away. But we've got one of the organizers of the campaign to stop this. And this is not like a grassroots campaign. This is one guy who blew into the state, a drifter. Stop me if you've heard this one before. They come into Massachusetts or come into New England and they want to, or can they come into anywhere? And they want to change things to the way it was wherever they were before. Tim Lawler is with us now. He's one of the spokesman for the effort to defeat the question here. And he was a leader in the effort to repeal the Plymouth Nip ban earlier this year, which won pretty well. He's committed to educating voters about the impact that these silly bands have on local small businesses. He's the founder of retrofit technologies. It's a large information technology service provider. And he's been the CEO for a number of years. Tim, thanks for being with us here on The Howie Car Show. Thank you so much, Howie, for having me on. And you're right, these Howie talents will come in and change things up. But they don't realize that 30% of the transactions within the liquor store have to do with Nip's. And with this, these Nip's going, if they were to go away, would affect small business. And it affects small local business. And the last, the last thing that sandwich officials would do would probably ask officials or people who own liquor stores. Say, how do you feel about it? No, that hasn't happened. So, you know, it's, it's, it's really bad for the consumers. And, you know, they, they tried a hundred years ago for, for prohibition and that didn't work. And it, it's again, sandwich telling the individual, it's people that they can't do something. So you just keep driving to the next town over, you know, to, to get, to get the Nip's. And if, if they be Nip's, you know, damn, well, they're going to go out. What's the next level up, a half, a half a pint to go after them next? Well, they did that in Chelsea, right? So in Chelsea, they ban Nip's. The next thing you know, East Boston's Nip's sales and alcohol sales went up 64%. I mean, that's for real. Right. And they just don't understand that. And it's just a matter of telling the consumer what they can do, what they can't do. And that's not right, Howie. How many people have stopped smoking's? Menfall cigarettes are vaping with menfall products. They just go to New Hampshire, Rhode Island to pick up the stuff. Or, you know what, they buy them under the table, right? I'm just good. They don't. And again, it's the local families. The local families are going to suffer because these, these employees of liquor stores are local. And if they, and if the bands go away, the revenue is going to go away and people are going to lose their jobs. It's that simple. Why? Why? I have no idea. They're going to go out next, next to the next town and buy the liquor in the next town. It just doesn't make sense. And so again, if you live in sandwich, you're going to have to, it's a little more work than it was in Plymouth where you just had to go down and vote at the, at your local precinct. You've got to go to the town meeting here. And this is also, somebody put this, this is the 22nd of 23 items on the, on the, on the agenda, the warrant. So you're going to, are they going to have to stick around a long time or does this thing move pretty fast? Typically they move, typically they, I would think they move pretty fast. But you know, the, the people, if they're really understanding this issue, they'll stick around, they'll vote. They'll turn this down because it's just not good policy for sandwich. It is not. Yeah, I like the way the ad says, you know, supporters of various, and then it says supporters of common sense. This is just a common sense vote. It is. It is. In fact, it was a part of the, part of the thing with Plymouth. We titled our committee, the Plymouth Coalition for Consumer Choice. And that's what it was all about, consumer choice. We should have the right to choose what we buy in a liquor store and not have someone tell us what we should buy. And so I guess this thing is being proposed. I read some story about him in the, in the Cape Cod Times. His name is Dan Tanner. He's 83 years old. How long has he lived in a sandwich? Just a few years, right? He has lived in a sandwich for a very short period of time. If you check him out on his website, whatnot, it's, it's something else. Just a month from outside, stirring the nest, stirring the paw. He's from North Carolina. He moved to sandwich. This is according to his own website, one of his Christmas letters on his own website. He moved, he moved to, to the Cape because his neighbor, this was, I guess he lived in the mountains. He owned a, an AR-15. There was a highway named after Billy Graham. Apparently that really offended him. He also didn't like the fact that there were seven Baptist churches in the town. And his congressman at the time was Madison Cothorn, who he calls a Nazi in the letter. So this is the guy, so all he had to do was get 10 signatures. And probably just a lot of people just said, I don't want to deal with this guy anymore. He's crazy. So they just, so it says he's a male, he's a male Karen. So this is something to stir the paw. Yeah. So, so this guy is, and he would, he would hurt these, he would hurt a lot of people who own liquor stores, who work in liquor stores, who, you know, and a lot of people, people go into liquor stores, they don't just buy nips as everybody knows, Tim Waller. They, you know, you get, you get some beer, you get, you know, a bottle or two of wine. And then you just get a nip to go, right? It's going to affect commerce. It's going to affect the small liquor store owner. That's where it's going to, that's where it's going to hit. And affect families, because people working in these small stores, and up to 30% of their revenue is based on these nips. In fact, you know, it was really interesting how we, I didn't realize this. But within Plymouth itself, there was over a million dollars worth of nips combined sold in Plymouth in the course of one year. That's a lot of revenue. Right. And think about that revenue gone. And it's directly going to affect the people within, in this case, in Plymouth. But sandwich, the same thing, and then not thinking about this. And I'm sure they have weed stores in, in sandwich. And I'm sure that everybody, all the same people that want to ban the nips are totally 100% behind the weed stores. And I'm sure the same people who would like to ban nips in Brookline. I know they're banned in Newton, but I don't know if they're banned in Brookline. But you know, Brookline is now not selling cigarettes that anyone was born in this century. I mean, it's crazy what's going on, Tim. You just got to put your foot down for all of this stuff. Stop it. It's all about what's next. It's all about what's next. What is next? You know, what are they going to waste their time on next? How are they going to take away from what we choose, our rights to choice, next? Yeah. And that's always an issue. Yeah, I hope you guys are organized because this is, like I said, I'd feel a lot better if this was like second to third on the agenda rather than 20 seconds. You know, it's just, it's just, you know, it's tough to get people, the people who, the prohibitionists, the cultists are more into this stuff than normal human beings. They are trying to find something to do. You know, you're going to come from outside of the community, come into the community, stir the nest, not understand your gravitational, what's going to happen. And boom, next thing you know, you get something like this where they don't understand. It's bad for small business. It's bad for the consumer and bad for local families. They don't understand. Yeah, and this is one of those things where if you don't pay attention and you live in sandwich, you're going to, you're going to go in and you're going to say, "Hey, what happened to those nips?" They're going to say they were, oh, they were banned by some 83-year-old male Karen from North Carolina that blew into the city, blew into the town two years ago. And then, you know what they're going to say? They're going to say, "I'll just keep driving. I'll just okay. I'll just head up the road." They're in the process of banning nips in New Bedford or they already have past legislation. I think there's just been some sort of moratorium on it. So, I live the next town over. All the liquor stores, they're big advertisements on the sides of their building. Nips sold here. Yeah. I mean, it's the same thing we saw during the Plymouth thing. The guy, we had a caller who said he worked at a place where there were a lot of guys who bought nips and they would get off every day and they'd go to the place in New Bedford. And now they were just driving to wherever, whichever direction they were headed in. They were costing the store in New Bedford a lot of money already, you know? And it's actually a proven fact because these numbers didn't come out in just a thin air, Chelsea literally banned nips. And next door to Chelsea, the five surrounding communities with around Chelsea, boom, instantaneously, revenue would write up. Yeah. So, the proof was on the pudding on that one. And people left understand if they ban it in sandwich, like they're going to try to ban it in Plymouth, they're going to go somewhere else. And the stores are going to lose this revenue, lose the customer, and it's not right. They're not thinking the whole picture. Yeah. It's all about the right to choose, says 5-1-2, except for when it comes to defending your family or regulating business. And this is ridiculous. 844-542. Another guy says, 5-0-8 says banning nips in sandwich will have no effect on the discarded drug needles in the state for us. This is nonsense. That's a good point too. Yeah. I mean, yeah, nip bottles, no one likes picking up empty fireball bottles or any other brand. But, you know, it's a lot less of a hassle than a discarded needle. All right, Tim Waller, where can people go? By the way, nips only represented 7% of the litter problem in Plymouth. 7% and they were going after that. Does that make sense? No. No, but if you leave town because you don't like the Billy Graham Highway and the fact that they're 7 Baptist churches in the town, I guess it makes sense. So where do people go if they want to learn more about the nip ban and how to stop it in sandwich? There is a going line. There is a coalition that's starting up. Just look it up and all the information is there. All right, well, we'll tweet it out. We got a link. I was looking at it earlier. I don't have it in front of me, though. We'll tweet it out with a link. Thank you, Tim Waller. We appreciate it. And if you live in Sanwich, be there or be nip-less. It's be there Monday night. It's the town special town meeting, the town meeting. It starts at 7 p.m. at Sanwich Middle High School. You can vote to stop the ban on nips. Stop the carpet baggers. I'm Highway Car. Listen to the Howie Car Show from anywhere. Hey, Jack, what's up? What is this? Go to howiecarshow.com and click "Listen" to start streaming Howie Live in Crystal Clear High Definition. I'm whispering right in your ear, buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz. He's Howie Car, and he's back. Today's poll question is brought to you by Eden Rafferty, Attorneys at Law, to see what happened to my leg while having cryo performed and restore hyper wellness. Go to EdenRafferty.com. Taylor, what's the poll question? What are the results thus far? Today's poll question, which you can vote in at HowieCarShow.com, is are the Democrats really panicked about the November elections? Yes, somewhat, but polls change or no think October surprise. Somewhat, but polls change. Twelve percent say somewhat, thirty-nine percent say yes, and forty-nine percent say no. All right, eight four four five hundred forty-two, forty-two. Let's take a couple of calls on nips. Brian, you're next with Howie Car, go ahead, Brian. Good evening, Howie. Hi. I'm a retail on Cape Cod and have experienced the net problem for some years now. I started eight years ago testifying at State House. At that time, Sandwich Representative has tried to pass the bill to put them on the bottle bill. It's been fought and stopped. Any solution we've tried to come up with, the litter problem by the multinational suppliers in a couple of very large wholesalers. And the person that you were talking to is not a representative of my retail stores or most other retail stores. He paid for and bought by the multinational suppliers in the large wholesal. The thing is, though, Brian, I'm just opposed to this just on general principles. You've got to stop these people. They went after menthol cigarettes. They're going to go after other kinds of cigarettes. They go after all kinds of guns. They say, "Oh, we want some trigger lock or something." Then they're going after something else. My general feeling now is that whenever they make a move, I want to stop them. But at the first level, we can stop them at. I agreed with you. I fought it in Mashby. I fought it in Falmouth. But I gave up when I realized the suppliers, which are multinational companies, will not cooperate to find any way to handle the litter problem. The thing is, so what's going to happen? Brian, I mean, you're there every day. If they don't have nips, aren't they just going to buy the next level up? Or they say, "Well, they can throw nips out the window." They can throw beer cans out the window, too, can't they? Thanks for the call, Brian. We're going to go with Turtle Boy. Turtle Boy had an interesting day today. I'm Howie Carr. [music] Live from the Matthews Brothers Studios. You forget how little they work in the courthouses of Massachusetts and most other states until you actually start following a trial day to day. And I'm now referring to the Trump trial in New York. I'm referring to the Karen Reed murder trial in Datum. They had yesterday off. Today they worked until the startling hour of 12.55. And then tomorrow they're going to take a tour of the actual crime scene, which is... They was the same thing. They wrapped up early Tuesday, too. Well, you know, again, it's... They basically haven't worked. Some of these courts have barely worked at all in the last four years. But anyway, so we like to check in with Turtle Boy. He's been covering the case. He's a principal in related matters. He's been charged. He's a blogger. His name is Aiden Kearney. And he's known as Turtle Boy. And we're going to ask you about what happened today. And I have a couple of questions that actually someone from Canton raised this question. And I hadn't even thought about it. But first I wanted to ask Turtle Boy about his... He had a very interesting lunch and experience today. He wasn't even in kin. He was in Suffolk County, South Boston. Turtle Boy, now you know why I don't go to South Boston for lunch. Yeah, there's McAlberts everywhere. I mean, on a day in which... And what day in which Caitlyn Alberts best friend gives testimony that is filled with lies against Karen Reed, Caitlyn Alberts' boyfriend shows up and tries to act all up with me at Castle Island. And then calls the cops on me. Did the cops actually come? Or did they just tell him to screw and go back to Canton? Probably just call it. He was probably just on the phone with a girlfriend. And who was he getting? But I mean, he came up with me and he said, "I didn't even know who he was." Who is this guy? Tell us who this guy is. First of all, tell us who this guy is. His name is Tristan Morris. Who is he? Tristan Morris. He was fit on... He's Caitlyn Alberts. He was the daughter of Brian Alberts who was in fact at the house that night. It's her boyfriend and he was like at town. He's like fifth on the list to become a Canton cop. You know, so he's like generation. Like one of these guys. He's a perfect McAlber that can marry into the family. And I've written about him before because they've been involved in some shady stuff. And long story short, he drives a car that matches the description of a car that Lucky Lockerin saw parked outside of 34th here. The truck driver. Yeah. Who's one of the main witnesses for the defense? Yeah. Right. So he comes up to me, confronts me, and a lot of people I've written about. He's like, you remember me? And I'm like, honestly, no. He goes, I'm Tristan Morris. I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he said he wanted to talk to me and said, okay, cool. I have a lot of questions for you. My first question is, why did your girlfriend tell the police that she left at 1215? And then she told the FBI that she left at 145? Why did she suddenly change her story? And he's like, I don't want to talk about that. And then he walked away and he said, Karen Reed did it. And I said, okay, let's start over again. And I started filming him. And that's what you see on there. He threatened to punch me. How? He said, you're not even from here. Turns out he graduated from 29th school. So he's not from here. But if that's not the perfect McAlbert mentality of like, you're not from here. You're not one of us. You know? And then he threatened to punch me in front, in broad daylight, in front of women and children. And just think about what they would do to somebody behind closed doors after a night full of drinking. Like, maybe John O'Keefe, like if he disrespected an Albert, you don't do that. I mean, these people are thugs. And he proved it. It was great. And you got to be, he's given the finger. He's out on Cassel Ilides, given the finger in broad daylight. But he's a tough guy though, he's got tattoos, right? Yeah, a big tough guy. And you know, he's fit on the list. You know, this is the kind of people that they hire in Ken. And his statement about, you're not even from here, you know, was perfect. Because it's like everybody who is involved in this is from here. Did he follow you? He responded that morning. Do you figure he followed you from the courthouse? No, no, we were, I was getting a lunch at Sullivan's. Yeah. We were in there and he apparently was in there recognizing me. And I ate and then like 30 minutes later, he's still there and he came up to me and confronted me about it. So I was obviously on his mind. I didn't even recognize him at first. And so he wanted to, you know, we wanted to dance with the devil so we danced. Apparently now, you know, I put the video out there now and he kind of looks like a schmuck. But it's like, it's just so typical of who these people are. And but I'll tell you, like, how he would instead of you not even from here. It's like every single person that responded to 34th year of Euro that day is a Ken high school graduate. All five members of the board of selectmen until recently, Ken high school graduates. Michael Proctor, Ken high school graduate. That's like, that's the way they view the world. If you're not from here, if you're not one of us, then you're not protected. And John O'Keefe and Karen Reed were not quote unquote from here. And everyone else was. And that's why John's dead and why Karen's facing murder charges. So the question I was going to ask you when this, it's kind of related to the courtroom today. John O'Keefe, the dead Boston cop, had those cuts on his arm, those slashes on his arm. And now they're claiming that, you know, somehow was caused by the accident. But yeah, the EMTs were testified and it's obviously true that they had to remove layers of clothing from him. So if they had to remove layers of clothing, how did he get the cuts, the fresh cuts on his arm? Well, one of the firefighters today on the sand said, I noticed some scratches and lacerations on his arm, not abrasion lacerations, which they've been saying the whole time. They're not lacerations. I didn't look at them. You can see they're lacerations, right? You know, you can't get an abrasion. You're right. Like you said, if you're fully clothed like that, because your skin has to contact some, you know, sharp object scraping. Yeah. Right. Right. And where is it? Like anybody looks at those pictures. Those are deep lacerations. They're furrows. There's a guy called it yesterday. And every single firefighter that got up there, you know, one of them actually said, the woman at the end there, Katie McLaughlin, she is, again, she is Caitlyn Albert's good friend they want to spring break together. She's the one that claimed that she heard him say, I hit him, I hit him, and then a cop right next to them heard her say this, yet it's not in a single police report. And we've heard from these firefighters, I think I kind of figure it out what happened here, right? It's not a matter of like, they're all just a bunch of filthy liars. It's just a game of telephone. It's like, it's once people, they said they were talking about this at the fire station. Enough people start saying, yeah, what'd she say? Oh, yeah. Didn't she say I hit him? I hit him. Right. Yeah. And then that's the story. They all start repeating. This is how we got here. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's what they always say that, you know, eyewitnesses, even though they were eyewitnesses, they don't necessarily tell you what happened. It's not that they're necessarily lying, but they can, their stories change. They go with the wind. And like you say, you're in this extreme small town environment like you're in, I don't know, Cornwall on the coast of England in the 17th century or something with all these people, they all even speak a different language almost, don't they? I mean, it's crazy. And it's the human element of like not wanting to be wrong, like pride, right? No, no, no, I couldn't have got that wrong. And that's what we saw with firefighter, Flammati, like when he got on that stand and now when Jackson starts pointing out inconsistencies in his story, you know, he's like tries to double down like things that didn't make sense about him, like, for instance, like he was never two feet away, right? He looked at a video, a dash can video of himself, and he couldn't recall if it was him. Is that you? I mean, you show me a video of me. I'm going to know it's me. He's like, I can't recall. He can recall everything else perfectly or exactly what she said, you know, when she said it, blah, blah, blah, but he can't pick himself out on video. And I think Alan Jackson made him like, we're not saying these people are liars or they're in on any grand conspiracy, but we saw the human element of this today and how we got here in the first place. I just, I think I said this to you earlier, Turtle Boy in the week, but if this is their strongest case that the prosecution has these witnesses, they, what is going to happen when they have to put these cops on the stand? Right. These are the only people that actually witnessed something. These people saw a body, like all the other ones didn't see anything. They're going to bring up Jennifer McCabe and Brian Higgins and Brian Albert and all of them allegedly didn't see anything. And so it's like these are the strongest witnesses that the Commonwealth has are the firefighters. What are they going to do when we get to the people that have actual problems like Michael Proctor and Michael Lank and other people like that? How is this going to look to a jury? And tomorrow, like you said, they're going to the scene. I've recreated that scene. I suggest people watch it. I don't build a tweet thread on yesterday. I tried, you know, when you're in reverse, it only, it's like being in first gear. It's not supposed to hit 24 miles an hour as the Commonwealth opine and we tested it out. I did 14 miles an hour. I drove into the curb because that road curves and you know, let's Karen's Jeff Gordon in reverse while being, while drunk during a blizzard really are going 24 miles an hour hitting a target. Like, and John, if you've just stood there and said, yeah, go ahead. I mean, it's just wild. I mean, I don't, I can't believe we're here. I can't believe they're actually going through with this with this national pundits are talking about this and they can't believe what they're seeing. And it's just a force. They're going to lose it. They're going to blame it on the, they're going to blame it on the jury and they're going to blame it on you. Turtle boy. Because I influence the jury. I can't put the jury. They've already, they've already come up with their reason for losing. I'm the reason they lost that I mess with the jury tool by telling by educating the public about the truth. My fault. Now, but I mean, one of the odds that I saw today, another story you wrote is that, you know, this guy, Michael Proctor, he's the state cop. He's apparently, according to the defense, he's, he is, he told two different stories. One to the state grand jury and another one to the federal grand jury admitted he basically lied according to the, according to Karen Reed's defense lawyers. And he's now under internal affairs investigation by the Massachusetts state police. And you say that now they're saying that he's not under investigation for, for telling conflicting stories to grand juries. He's a, he's under investigation because he texted that he wanted, he was looking for nude photos of Karen Reed. Is that, that's correct. That's their new story. The story they're going with. That's the spin that, that's the McAlvert spin that they're putting on it. That's it. Elizabeth Proctor put out there through her spokesperson, Krusty Panies. He put out basically saying that, oh yeah, that she, you know, he was just kidding around about looking for a nude on his phone. So, in other words, Michael Proctor knew this was going to get out of here and he, he, he, there's going to go out to the public. He needs to get ahead of this with his wife. So he tells her, oh yeah, me and my buddies, we're just messing around and, and now I'm under internal affairs investigation. It's no big deal, honey. It's no big deal. But he's not, they don't care about that. That's probably what they're, they're in it for the corruption, howie. They're in it for the fact that he lied to a grand jury that's a much bigger deal than making some jokes to your buddies about looking for nudes. Yeah. And I mean, why would he say something like that anyway? I mean, that's just, that's just crazy stuff to be, because he never thought they go through his phone. He never thought the FBI would get a hold of his phone. God. Well, some of the people are asking too, they want to know about what McLaughlin McLaughlin, the, the, the friend, another, another one of the McAlvert friends, she testified that she drove the ambulance and saying she was going to get LT good. What is that all about? What's he, what's, what am I being asked that she was going to get LT good? Yeah. Maybe I missed that part. I'm not going to lie. Like I don't doubt a lot during the testimony today because some of the most boring testimony you've ever heard. I know. Yeah. I know. You've probably been falling asleep too, just like Trump. I mean, I said anyone who spent any time in court has fallen asleep. I mean, there's just no question about it. That's the way it is. I don't, I don't need to hear about these people's resumes anymore. I don't need to hear about where you, you know, where you worked with Brewster Fire, whatever, for the last, you know, two years before this, I don't need your LinkedIn profile. Yeah. But that's what Adam, Adam Lally has found a way to take the most exciting murder trial ever and turn it into a snooze fest. I think that's part of the game. That's part of the, that's, that's, yeah, the master plan, the playing chess, we're paying checkers, Howie, they outsmarted us. Are you going to be at the, are you going to be outside for the, for the, for the big event tomorrow when they go to the crime scene? They don't let people within a hundred yards, they're saying a hundred yards, a football field. They love a hundred yards. Yeah, a hundred yards. They're not letting any media within a hundred yards of any jurors because they don't want them to be whatever. I'll tell you, when jurors see that when they see 34th year of your road and they see how small that front lawn is, it's not that big, they're going to realize that there is no way in hell, a house full of people did not hear or see anything happen. I mean, it's a wide open lawn. They all left, they all drove away. Not one of them saw a body on that front lawn when they drove away, not one of them heard anything. There's woman hitting this man in reverse. Stop it. They're going to see that tomorrow and they're going to understand how impossible this was. Are they coming back or is it just a visit to the location and then they're gone for the weekend? I know we're dealing with state workers here, but I mean, I feel like they have enough time to get back and to get the work done. No more time. I feel differently. No more time. I don't think so. I think this is going to be an early slide for the jury and more importantly for the judge and Adam Lally and although. Okay. Turtle boy. Hey, keep us informed and where can people go to check out your stuff? tbdailynews.com or follow me on Twitter at Dr. Turtle boy because if Jill Biden's a doctor, so am I. There are a lot of good stories on tb daily news today. The story about the guy with the tattoo and the giving him the finger on castle island and also the story about the WBZ analyst, which we didn't even get into. That's just great. More crazy nonsense. Just amazing what's going on. All right. We'll talk to you soon. Turtle boy. Thanks for being with us. I'm Howie Carr. The Howie Carr show will be right back. The emperor of hate, Howie Carr is back. A hundred yards. That is so absurd. Again, I've been working on some stuff about the the Angelo tapes and the dog house and all that the big mafia trial back in the eighties. And I still remember that when and I was looking at the pictures from the Herald. All the Angelo brothers are there. They they went to the house on the dog houses. It was called 98 Prince Street and we're right on top of them. We're right on top of the Angelo brothers there. You know, they're the defendants, but they were taking pictures of them up close. I'm talking to these old ladies on the street and they're going, Oh, which one do you like that? I think. I like. I think Frankie. He's a bachelor. I like him. Oh, Donnie's kind of tough though. He's a. He's smiley. They call him smiley. I mean, but it was we were right on top of him. That was like a huge that was a major organized crime trial. And they had the pool reporters were going in and you know, the guy from the New York Times comes out and he says, I can't use this how we, but this is for you. You'd love it. And it's a it's this stupid poem, the boss about how, you know, how they picked the boss and it's just the kind of thing you see at a Stuckey's on 95 in South Carolina or something. He gave it a he gave it all to me so I could put it in my call. But they they're treating this like it's, you know, like it's some kind of nuclear secrets trial, a hundred yards, you have to stay away from the house. How absurd is that? All right, we we just tweeted out the the link to the to the website for the sandwich nip man. So read it read up on it. It's pretty self-explanatory. If you live in sandwich, try to get to that meeting on Monday night. We'll remind you of it later on as as we get closer to it in the next after the weekend. And by the way, we only have a handful of Tavalinos left, Tavalinos restaurants in Foxboro and in Westboro. These are $40 gift certificates for just 25 bucks, just 20 bucks, excuse me, $40 gift certificates for 20 bucks. We have three left. So they should be gone. I want them. I want them gone. Shortly. We had started out with a lot, lot more than than that. But there's three left. 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