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Gemara Markings Daf Yomi

Bava Metzia 63

Duration:
27m
Broadcast on:
02 May 2024
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Picking up on the top line of "Samaq'im al-Vadalif", the previous sun would, we had quoted the Mishnah and the Mishah seems to be a problem of some sort of de Rabban on Ribis, if at the end of the day the person who is agreeing to provide the wine himself doesn't have the wine. But then the Gomara asked on about the 11th 12th line on "Samaq" based on the base. So what if he doesn't have wine? If he can purchase wine somewhere else easily, it shouldn't be a problem. And we had Rava's approach and then we had a Bayes approach about 10 lines later. And then in the bottom line, Rava said that he's going to go with the Riboisha Bryce that we'll see now, starting on the second line of "Samaq'im al-Vadalif". This is a 11th line Bryce that we marked off already. Rava said, "I owed Bob a hundred dollars". "Samaq'im al-Vadalif" is a long line. 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Because cash is king. Money talks. Wouldn't be a purchaser who have financial ability to purchase a thing. The sellers make their way, even if there's no middleman, to the potential purchase. "Zuzi-Dinji-Inu-Av-Dilei-Saf-Siras" the cash of a person, or the money of a person, function as a very effective middleman indeed. Rava, Ravashi-Dami-Travayu, two of them said together, I guess just like they did about 12 lines ago. Hi, Mandi-Yavsuzi, Tarah-Harifa. The Tarah-Harifa is the early price. Up until now, we've basically been talking about once the produce and questions on the market, and there's already a known market price per unit, here is the early price. If somebody gave money, let's say I gave money to Bob for, I don't know, five pounds of wheat, but there's no real wheat yet on the market. Sorry, it's a zuye-le-bei-dari. It would be necessary for basically this to be done face-to-face, or to be a peer-face-to-face, at the actual threshing area. The one who is selling the produce, the purchaser would have to be there to make this deal. Why does he have to be there? The more wants some clarity, le mai. Colin, E. I squiggled on the word Ile mikna. If it's to make some sort of acquisition, well, Ha-loi-Khandi is not making an acquisition at that time. If he's just standing there, E. I squiggled on the word Ile-le-le-misha-para. If he backs out that he would receive the misha-para, that the Lord, who exacts retribution, from the people who built the Tower of Bovell, and from the generation of the Flood, and from others, well, Ki-Lungness-Khasi Nami, even if he doesn't appear at that place at that time, he'll also, if he backs out, mikha-lai-misha-para. So what's the reason he has to be there? And here's the reason why, le-le-le-le-misha-para. It's that a misha-para will be given to this person, he'll get this terrible curse, if he backs out. Only if he appears, though, at the actual threshing floor where the produce is being produced. Mandy Aizuzzi, Ataracharifa, the general understanding is that if somebody gives cash at payments at the early season, the early price, before everyone has the produce, he does that to a few different potential suppliers. Le Beitre-Clossa, yeah, let's get a bakery, he knows he needs flour, so he'll go to two or three different suppliers to get the flour, and is paying the money going to clench the deal? Well, it never clench the deal, but will you get a misha-para if you back out of it? And he knows that he can rely on this purchaser, and therefore, if he backs out the seller, he, not the purchaser, but the seller, if the seller backs out and says he doesn't take your money back, he would get a misha-para. But if the potential, if the buyer who's giving the money does not appear, Amar Lai, the seller, if he backs out, can say, "Listen, Amina, I figured, you didn't even come to the threshing floor, and check out the produce as it was being produced, I figured, "Istokapiri-dispiri-midi-di, you must have found some produce better than mine, because I'm taking that period, Amaravashi, Hashidamris, Mishum, Miss Magdite, now that we've just explained things, that it depends on the reliance of the parties that the deal's going to go through, then if you look after the shukka, it doesn't actually have to, like, can't, it doesn't actually actually come and appear before the misha-para-threshing floor, even if they meet each other in the steebull or in the market, Amar Lani tells him, that's enough. Amar Lani says that he will have an attitude of relying, that this deal is going to go through. Amarav Nachman, I put a diamond round of Nachman here, a line and a half later, I would put a diamond round of Nachman again, and about seven lines later, last word of line is "Rav", first word on the line, the next line is "Nachman", and put a diamond round that, we'll do the first two of Nachman, and then we'll call it a shear. Amarav Nachman, "Clalo Daribisa", the basic general rule of what the issue of Ribis is when it's a problem, and I double underline these five words, "kol agar nathar lei", "usar", any agar is "benefits" or "increase" or "wages" or "money", "nathar", "nathar", "nathar" is like word "shamaar", like the "nathure kartar", the "sheimre ha'ir", basically guarding or waiting, any wages or increase that you get for waiting for the money that you lent out to come back to you, that's us. Okay, "Vamrav Nachman", here's another "Rav Nachman", "Haimend diyiv zuzi", if you have a purchaser who gave money, let "ki ra'aw" for wax, he needs wax, "vikka", "usli", "arba", "arba", and the wax goes, let's say, for four, I don't know, four wax cubes per dollar. The "amrale" and the "seller" says, "Okay, I'll take your money now, and "Ya'iv nalach, hami shamai shal", I'll give you five wax cubes per dollar in the future. Isnuhugabe, it depends, "kolin", if the supplier of the wax cubes, the seller, has them currently with him, then Shari is from his, but less nugabe, if he doesn't have them, it would be "usar". It's basically what we've said, this whole last dafn-a-half, in which case, the more "aspchita", yeah, if the provider has the merchandise, then he can enter into the type of contract, if he doesn't, isn't that "push" it? Well, no, it's not so "push" over here, because this is slightly different case, "lo", rather "tsrija", "de isli ashri bimata", this seller of the wax himself doesn't have the wax, but he also has some sort of forward contract in the big city to be provided wax, he's sort of like, maybe almost like a middle man. Buy it from the wholesalers, sells to the, maybe you'll call them a "retail" to the client's mouth, the team you might have thought to say, "kolin" to "isli ashri bimata", since after all, he has already forward contracts to purchase wax in town, "k", then it's similar to a case that we've had before, this is a phrase, the next five words. "Ojjjolibini", "Ojjemsomafteach", that it's similar to a case where if a person says, "Listen, my son has to come and get this stuff, or I'm not sure where the key is, I have this stuff", and you might have thought this is like that type of case, "dummy". The "kiddish" here is "kama kamashmalan", oh no, "kavan de mahastri guvina", since the wax in this case, that the one is selling, he himself hasn't collected it yet, it's lacking collection, "kamanda less new dummy", it's not as though he has it, rather as though he does not have it, and it would be problematic. Adkhan.