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Reefer's Rivalries: Jaguars vs Titans
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We've been driving this with the Merry Mother tournament, the Grand River. And this week, we're going to bring you the rivalry of the Jacksonville Jaguars versus the Tennessee Titans. And with this being sort of one of the short arrival routes that I'm covering, I'm only really covering three decades with this rivalry rather than the six or seven decades that I have been covering with the other rivalries. So I'm expecting this to be a little bit shorter than normal. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to add a little bit of a bonus at the end because where I'm from, there's a big rivalry that goes on between a couple of the towns. And also I'm half Italian and my Italian half is from the Florence region of Italy. And they also have a rivalry game within the town as well. And yeah, let's not add these in because I find them interesting as well. You know, two places that have connections to, you know, families from one lived in the other. The both have these rivalry games once a year where you know, they've got two completely different games, two games that isn't a league for these or anything. They only play these games within the town and the people who participate from the town. So before I get into this rivalry, everyone's had a good week and draft week's coming up, draft week's starting this week. And yeah, it's all looking very interesting. And you know, recording these episodes, 75% in advance is, well, it helps so much with my schedule. I actually paint Panama my weekend, getting all the overtime in that I could. And then, you know what, I actually, for stuff this, I stuck it to the man on Saturday, I thought I'm not going in for the overtime on Saturday, you can sort of, I've done enough this week, I've saw it got caught up. But, you know, the pain hitting us with even more work that's going to come in, so this overtime isn't going to slow down any time soon. I don't think so. This little scenario where I'm knocking out 75% of the episode and then just finishing it off from the day that I need is working out really good. But I definitely will be working next Saturday because, you know, usually, I do mention before I do me gambling to pay for gig tickets. Well, you know, having this Saturday off, I managed to win enough money to get gone so green long in a couple of weeks, so I bought myself tickets for that. But, we've been looking and, you know, Nickelback's going to be in Manchester at the end of May and I wouldn't mind going to see Nickelback. But the only tickets that are left are like 110 pounds, which usually, you know, not green long ticket that I won. That was like 20 pounds. That's how much I usually pay for gig tickets, but, yeah, 110 pounds for Nickelback. So, yeah, if I work next Saturday, that'll pay for my Nickelback tickets. So, let's get into this rivalry here of the Jacksonville Jaguars versus the Tennessee Titans. And this, you know, it's sort of one of the well-known historic rivalries. It's probably one of the most famous rivalries in the AFC South. And I'm also, you know, my wife's sort of a juggler's fan. She likes watching the NFL. She stays up for the football and, you know, I went, we've been to a game. We went to a juggs Bronco's game and, you know, she likes the jerseys and that as well. And I think that's what's weird. It was, she likes the teal and she wanted a black jersey as well. So, when I first got a first jersey, it was maybe a few years ago. So, she's only sort of just started getting a little over the last, maybe five or six years. And it was when Leonard Voner had just left the juggs in there. You know, as I said, like, my wife's really small. She's like five foot one. And she can still fit into in NFL tops of jerseys. She can still get the child's sizes. So, Leonard Voner had left. And this still must have had a load of child's Leonard Voner jerseys left. So, I managed to get one really cheap, like 20 pounds. And there, when it arrived, I was like, oh yeah, got your jersey. And she's like, oh, I like it. And there, she went, oh, I like the cheater on it. That's a Jaguar because the team's called the Jacksonville Jaguars. God love it. So, yeah, so ever since then, she has sort of been a Jaguars fan because she likes to teal and teal jerseys. And she was a bit of a fan of travel on when he first came out because he sort of resembled the original bro, Matt Riddle a little bit if she always found funny. So, yeah, we went to a Jax versus Broncos game in Wembley Stadium a few years ago. Yeah, hopefully this year we're going to actually get to the Vikings game. Said we're going to do what we can to get to the Vikings game. So, hopefully this year we're going to get to that. But anyways, Titans vs Jags. And in 1993, the NFL awarded expansion franchises to two cities, Charlotte, North Carolina and Jacksonville, Florida. And the Charlotte franchise would obviously become the Panthers. And they would be in the NFC and the Jacksonville franchise would become the Jaguars, they'd be in the AFC. The Jaguars would compete in the Central Division, the AFC along with Bangles, Browns and the Houston Oilers and Pittsburgh Steelers since 1995. The Jaguars have played most of the home games. In the Jacksonville Huntsville Stadium, which is now named the Everbank Stadium, which is situated on the original site of the Gearball Stadium. So, it was in September 1995 when the Jaguars first played the first ever fucking rabbit doing. Sorry, one second. Yeah, sorry about that though. Me, me, rabbit smashing shit out of the football because I forgot to feed it. I've got two rabbits that they saw a free range, free range of free roam around the flat. Yeah, you know, they don't like, our flat isn't like a rabbit warden, like a rabbit who just stinking it out like that. You know, the world trained. They use a literature like Catster. But she's just took an absolute tantrum. She's called Hamlet from Metallica and the other one that we've got. It's called Hamlet, and after Jeff Hamlet was slayer. Oh, I'm getting a bit sidetracked right back to these. It's going to be a lot, it's going to end up being a long episode. Let's get back to the Jags and Titans. So, 1985 played the first ever game against the Oilers who had been in the league since 1960. And the Houston Oilers receiver here were Japanese. He caught the games only touched down in a 10 to 3 victory for the Oilers. Four weeks later, the club's teams met up again in Houston. And in the fourth quarter, Desmond Howard caught a 15 yard pass from a Jaguars car back Mark Brunel to lift the Jacksonville to 17-16 win. Now, following the 1985 season, the Oilers owner Bud Adams confirmed that the team would relocate to Nashville, Tennessee in time for the 1998 season. And the announcement resulted in a lot of attendance at the Houston Nostradome. And the loss of many of the Oilers really affiliates. In another meeting in Jacksonville on September 1986, Brunel threw the Jags game win in touchdown to Keenan McConnor to secure a 34-27 victory. Three months later, in front of the Astra-John card, over only 20,000, the Oilers quarterback asked to McNair, collected 380... sorry, 380 passing yards as he led the Oilers to a 23-17 victory. And a year earlier, then originally expected, the Oilers left Houston and moved the home games to the Liberty ball in Memphis, Tennessee. And the Jaguars held off at second half rally by the Oilers to win 30-24 in Memphis in November 1987. Two weeks later, the Jaguars complete the sweep of the Oilers with a 17-9 win back in Jacksonville. So, by the 1998 season, the Oilers finally met in Nashville in the Vanderbrit Stadium, where the played Jacksonville in September. And they took two fourth-quarter field goals from Jacksonville kicker, Mike Hollis, to give the Jags a 27-22 victory. And there was a fourth straight victory against the Oilers, and that streak came to an end in December, like when Aldi Greco's 41-yard field goal gave the Oilers a 16-13 win. But yeah, the Jags went on to win the AFC's central title in 1998, but they lost to the playoffs in the Jets against the Jets, not in the Jets. But in 1999 is when this rivalry truly really started, not just because the Oilers changed the names to the Titans, and this was the first year of the Titans, but it was also the only that these two have met in the playoffs. You know, a bit like the Falcons and Saints last week, these teams have only met in the playoffs once, and that came in 1999 season. But the first game in this season in September, the Titans had rallied from a 17-7 deficit to defeat the Jags 2019, and then three months later in Nashville, the Titans dominated the Jaguars' 41-14. And despite the result, the Jags had won the AFC Central for the second consecutive season, and finished the regular season on a 14-2 record. So now the only two games that lost that year were to the Titans. Jacksonville was the number one seed in the AFC and the first round by, but the number four seed Tennessee with a record of 13 and three hosted the Buffalo Bills in the Wildcat game. The Titans dramatically defeated the Bills 22-16 by means of the music city miracle player, and travelled to Indianapolis the following weekend where the defeated the Colts 19-16. Meanwhile, Jacksonville won its divisional round-home game over Miami Dolphins 62-7. So on the January 23rd, 2000, the Titans and the Jags met for the third time in the 1999 season, and this was for the AFC championship game. At half time, the Jags led 14-10, but the Titans stormed back to win 33-14. So they went 23 unanswered points to win the game, and for the first time since 1961, the franchise had won the AFC title. Titans went on to face the Rams in the Super Bowl, but they lost 23-16 in that game. So yeah, the 1999 season must sit really having for Jags fans that had one of the best seasons going, and they lost three games, and all three of them were to the divisional rivals, the Tennessee Titans. So the Titans and the Jags continued, you know, their late night is success into the early 2000s, and they remained competitive with one of the, you know, the state in the same division when the NFL realigned the divisions, and the Jags and Titans joined the Colts and the Houston Texans to form, you know, what we know now as the AFC's self. In 2006, the Jags recorded the largest victory in this rivalry with a 37-7 win over the Titans. In 2008, the Titans won the divisional championship, and they didn't get much further after that, to be honest, the lost 13-10 to Baltimore in the first round of the playoffs. No, the 2010s were soon for the Jags and Titans. Both began the decade with not much success. Both missed an out in the playoffs each year, till 2017 when Jags managed to get in, but Jags quarterback David Gutter was released after the 2010 season and replaced by 2011 draft pick, and got it, got it. It was ultimately unsuccessful. June is tenured with the team, but the Titans drafted quarterback Jake Locker in the same draft after releasing the vice young due to off-season troubles. But injury plagued Locker's career, and he retired after only four years. In 2013, Maurice Jones drew and Chris Johnson first off against each other for the final time, at the ever-bank field in Jacksonville. The Titans went on to win 2016, and, you know, Jones drew a last plate for the Locker and Raiders in 2014, while Johnson went on to play it for the New York Jets and the Arizona Cardinals. He's where we get to see up, but these two teams really were at this time. In 2014, the two and 12 jugubers defeated the two and 12 Titans, 21-13 in Jacksonville. And later that year, the Titans and Jags's coach and staff faced off in the senior ball in January 2015. Ken Wiesenhundt's staff coached the North, while Gus Bradley's staff coached the South. Now, by 2015, Gabberton Locker had been replaced by quarterbacks, split potlars, and for the Jacksonville Tigers, and Marcus Marjorda for the Tennessee Titans. And after years of pond-fooding in the AFC South, the two teams took advantage of their Colts team missing their staff while back on to a look due to injury in 2017, and returned to the playoffs that year. Though the Jags had already clinched the AFC South, the Titans made it in by means by beating the Jags in week 17. Both teams would lose the defending to the defendants of ball champions, Patriots, with the Titans losing 34, AFC 35-14 in the divisional round, and the Jags losing 24-20 in the conference championship after, you know, attending a 20-10 fourth quarter lead. Now, we're into the 2020s, and after a couple of years of dominance from the Titans in 2022. So, both teams played trouble late on in the season with the AFC South in the balance. And in week 14, the Jags beat the Titans 36-22, capitalizing on four Titan turnovers to keep their AFC South race alive. Both teams eventually battled it out for the AFC divisional championship in week 18, and the Titans got up in a 10-0 early lead, put the Jags forced a fumble on Joshua Dobbs in the fourth quarter. The Josh Allen of the Jags ran for a touchdown to win the game 2016 to get into the postseason, and the two teams met again in the 2023 finale, where the Titans beat the Jags, who had lost four of the last five games heading into week 18, to ensure the Jacksonville feel to win the AFC South, and also miss out on the playoffs. You know, it's all like about a lot of these divisional rivalries, you know, if we're not going to get into the playoffs, make sure that your rivals don't. Now, with the headsets, with these two, I know it's actually last week I forgot to give the headsets for the Falcons, in a sense. So, he's no, that's 55 each. You know, I think it's one of the only rivalries that we have that's equal on wins on both sides, but that's for these. So, in the 90s, the Oilers slush Titans got the upper hand of the Jags winning six to five in 2000s. Titans had the upper hand winning 12 to eight in the 2010s. We've got Deja vu, the Titans 12 to eight again, and so far in the 2020s, the Titans are up five to three. And so, that gives you your overall, in this series, there's been 59 meetings between the two, and the Titans are up 35 to 24. So, when you look at this rivalry, it's got everything it needs to be, you know, classed up there as one of the grades, once it starts getting a bit of more history behind it. The only three decades compared to some of them where they have six or seven decades of rivalries. 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I wish I had thought of that from the start, you know, I didn't think about Hong Kong fan forums when I was doing my research. And even a lot of these fan forums that, the mainly seem to be the Jags are upset about 1999 season where they lost three times. But there's definitely no love lost between these two. There's got to be divisional rivalries for a long time. And yeah, hopefully we'll see this rival relief flourish before our very eyes. So, like I said, I will be thrown in a little bit extra here because it's quite short, short episode in the way of Taylor that I managed to cover up for this one. So, what I'm going to bring to you is where I'm from. It's a little, like, fishing village on the west coast of Kumbria in the UK called Meripot. And a few mile down the road, there is a number town called Workington. And a few miles further down the road, there's a town called White Heaven, which just happens where my wife's from. And the one in the middle working, these are coastal towns that are built on a hill, and the hill runs down to the coast. And, you know, the top part, the hill, the upper part, is where all the posh, which people used to live, the bottom part, the down part of the hill, is where all the poor people used to live. So, in the 1870s, I think it was, I think it all started off a chariot, that decided to create a bit like a humble style game called Upies and Downies. And what it involves is that they have one ball, and this game is played three times a year all at Easter. And what's special about this is that these games are happening. There's no organisers, there's no rules. As I say, it's played three matches, and it sees those with the roots in the upper part of the town called the Upies, and those with the downy part of the town called the Downies. And the aim of this game is to get the ball, which is especially made for every event. There's three balls made for each year, because there's three days, and so the one balls are never used twice. And the aim is to get the ball to the top, the upy bit, okay down to the bottom bit. So, at the top there's a castle called Kerwin Castle, and the Upies have to get the ball from the centre of the town, up to the Kerwin Castle, and the downies have to get it down to the docks. Yeah, pretty straightforward, really. How simple of a game can it be? Well, working in Texas game very seriously, and thousands and thousands of people attend this game to try and think, try and get this ball in this game, because when you win the game you get to keep the ball, and you are sort of healed as a town hero. Now a kick off this game is something to behold. I mean, I went to school and work enough, witnessed this game being played for years every time, we go back up to Cumbria, we always go back at Easter, usually on the Friday, and we have to try for a working when this game is being played, and this game can go anywhere. Where the ball goes, where the people go, it can go into the streets, it can go into the town centre, it could end up in, you know, like the hills or the fields on the outskirts. Anything can happen in this game, there is no rules, the only rule is that you get the ball to your designated area, and then you have to heal the ball. All you have to do to heal the ball is to throw it up in the air and catch it three times. If you don't heal the ball you don't win, so you could be in the process of hell in the ball, you know, an upi might be at the castle, throws it up in the air, everyone's cheating, you were going to win, and then a downi might just run over it, takes them out, doesn't take them out nicely, the amount of injuries that there is at this event, hospitalisations, arrests, everyone is out drinking cans, it's just carnage from start to finish. I've seen big groups of men fighting in rivers, fighting ages, diving in rivers because the balls went into a river. The only sort of rule that there is, and it's like a gentleman's agreement, is you don't take the ball in a vehicle, you know, you don't just run over, jump in a car, drive off with the ball, because that would just ruin it for everyone. It's just, it's spectacles, behold, I'd really suggest that if you if you want to laugh, just google upis and downis go on the year and then he'll come up in a little video bit, someone's always putting videos on youtube, I think every year actually someone has filmed it and made a massive video of each day of every year, and it's oh it's just carnage, I mean these games start, this game starts at half six every day that it's that it starts, and I've seen it go on to two three o'clock in the morning before someone's been declared the winner, I've heard Phil has probably gone on for longer, I've also known it, only take an hour, I think during Covid, because you know not many people were allowed out, the game didn't last that long, and there was probably less injuries and no arrests, but when we were younger, I was brilliant, we used to just love getting a bag of cans, you know a few blunts already made up, go down, you follow the ball, you can keep you this, long as you keep your distance from the ball, you won't get co-opening, and you can have a right good laugh watching it all unfold in front of you, if you see the ball coming towards you, depending on how many cans you've had, you might go and grab it, but it's advisable just to run, there's no age limit on this, there's no gender limit on this, I've seen women in amongst fighting with men, punching men, trying to get the ball, they try to get everyone, tries to get the ball by any means necessary, they don't care who they are trying to get it, and if you know police are all theirs, there's not many people doing this, they can't stop it, there's nothing they can do, and it's just one of them things that it sounds absolutely crazy and insane, but when you watch it and you're there in the middle of it, you think this is absolutely fantastic, but rivalry in that town, it doesn't just stop at that, because even if you are an uppier downey, you're always going to end up having a fight or an argument somewhere along the line, and it's not all bad, it's not all really about violence and kicking crap out for each other, it's in amongst all the chaos, they usually see someone with a high-vis jacket and a collection bucket, and they're going around collecting money off people while they're fighting, and then they give all that money to charity and stuff like that, so it's even though it is very brutal and all that, it is always for a good cause, so yeah, that's my hometown rivalry of uppies and downies, which I advise you just to just google uppies and downies another look at some of them, because it's a right laugh, I don't really have any records of who's won the most, anything like that, because none of it really is documented, a lot of what you'll find is really just what the report that year in the newspaper is, obviously it's a had-a-going uphill, then where it has gone downhill, but I think yeah, the uppies too managed to win quite a lot, even there's actually a statue in working harbor of two men fighting over the ball in honour of this game, upies and downies, that's how much they appreciate this game, and yeah, it's one of the weirdest but greatest traditions I think I've ever known, now on my other side of the heritage, my Italian side, in Florence, they play a game every year called Calico, Storico, Fiorentino, and it's also known as Calico in costume, and it's an early form of football, it's originated in the Middle Ages, and it was played all over Italy, but then it just sided in Florence, and then it was known as the Florentine kick game, so what is you know, Calcio Storico, and it was originally, as I played in the 17th century, however, in the 1930s it was like a very viable, it was sort of, early days it was more like Richard aristocrats, and you know, war generals and people like that, it would play it, but in the 1930s, under Benito Mussolini, it was widely played by amateurs in the streets and squares, using unmade balls of cloth or animal skin, but today there's three matches that played each year in the Pisa Santa Cruz in Florence, if you've never been to Florence, where is this, that's a square right in the centre of the city, and there's a big architectural church, there's a cathedral, it's a cathedral just there, I've been there a few times, and I've never been when this is on, because I'll get to why I've never been to when this is on, I'm not paying them prices, but yeah that square is one of the most beautiful squares I think I've ever been in in the world, and just around the corner actually just up the road from that there's a museum there that has Michelangelo's David in it, if you ever go there's a Michelangelo's David in the museum of the road, so what they do is every June, they erect a grandstand in this square, and they fill the squareful sand, and the city is divided into four sections of the air, Santa Cruzia, the Santa Maria novella, the Santo Spiritatio, and the Santo Giovanni, and they're all given a colour, the blue, red, white and green, and the play an opening game, and the winner of that opening game then plays in the final, the final is always on the 24th of June of the Feast of St Giovanni St John, there's a pension set of Florence, and now for decades this is one violent much, who should up isn't down is violent, this is worse, and it's resulted in like very severe injuries including death, during the early decades in order to encourage weirderon and achieve a better ball winner, they would sometimes throw balls onto the pitch, and have balls running round just charging for while they're trying to play the game, just for your entertainment, so the modern game of this, they obviously don't allow balls, but here we go with some of the rules of what you can do, so you're allowed to use tactics such as head button, punching, elbow, and choking, however due to a lot of fatal injuries that have happened over the years you're not allowed to suck a bunch, you're not allowed to kick in the head, they're the only two moves that are currently banned in this game, and it's also prohibited to have more than one player tucking a pawn and two at any one time, so the rules for this, the other, they're much less for 50 minutes, and it's played on the field covered in sand which is the square in the middle of Florence, and it's approximately 100 meters long by 50 meters wide, 109 yards by 55 yards, a white line divides the field in between, and there's goals and nets on either side of the pitch, and the, you know, the aim of the game is to get the ball in the net, each team has 27 players and there's no substitutions allowed for injury or expelled players, teams are made up of four goalkeepers, full backs, five half backs, 15 forwards, and the captain is a standard bearer, and that guy sits in the centre of the goal net, so they do not have to actively participate in the game, the standard, this is where it's going to hold, all the ways of doing things, I mean, it's basically to do it holding a flag, you know, and he doesn't have to join him, but he's like a representative of the team, holding the flag, bit like, you know, in the gold war, he always has a standard bearer in the olden days, and you know, you sort of back orders, tell for a player to go, tell a player to go and attack another player, or something like that, or tell him to stop bothering the tag team and go and attack someone else, so the game starts, the fighter cannon, you know, to announce that the game's starting, and the ball gets thrown into the centre, and I said there's 15 forwards, them 15 forwards are all there just to fight, basically, they're not there to go for the ball, they're not there to train score goals, they're there to take the numbers down by eliminating players as quickly as possible, so they have the advantage to go ahead and score goals, now where they do it is one to kick crap out of them until they physically can't compete anymore, another way they do it is they'll start wrestling, and once they start wrestling it's got to be one-on-one wrestling, while this is all while the game's going on, there's folk run around with the ball, and that if you've got the ball you know, you're gonna get, it's like game of chess, basically, if you get caught you're gonna get bad, you're gonna get an ID, you're gonna get kicked, you're gonna get punched, you're gonna get hit by it, you couldn't even get choked out as a surge, it's, anything goes apart from hit button and kicking in the head, and actually, no, you're allowed to kick in the head, head button, sucker punching, sorry, sucker punching that you're not allowed to do, and once you start wrestling, then once you've been beat by wrestling, you've then got to be downed and basically the player sits on you until the goal scored, and then you regroup and you start again, and after 50 minutes it's the team with the more scores wins, now there's all sorts of weird rules in this, there's not weird rules, but most of it is, it's quite simple really, but they have a lot of traditions and traditional rules that you've got to abide by, otherwise you will get kicked out the game, they all have to wear traditional dress as well, you know, they don't wear shorts and a t-shirt, they think renaissance, you know, with the frilly pants and the frilly colors and stuff like that, they wear all sorts, and they're even now bringing in trained fighters, you know, like UFC style fighters to play this game, just to go in and kick crap out of folk, basically, mix martial arts, it's, yeah, it's got everything you want really, it's a bit of a shame that the ver band, the use of bulls really, I think, I would like to have seen that, that I would have added a bit more of excitement to it, but it's one hell of an exciting game, there's actually a documentary on Netflix about it, and I think there's a few other, there's a few documentaries knocking about, which it's well worth a watch, well worth a watch, and the reason why I've never been to this, is because I think tickets start somewhere in the region of £5,000 to get into the stadium, five or I could be wrong, there could even be fifteen, maybe, you know, it's a sport for the rich, and yeah, they hurt when they want blood, they want blood, so yeah, so they have it, you know, over the, uh, jugs versus the titans, and then Upis and Downies, and Salsi or Stadikor Fiorentino, I strongly advise that you use all Google Upis and Downies, and, uh, Kalki or Stadikor, Salsi and Tino, just Google them, have a look at them, have a look at what's actually going on, The Upis and Downies one is a full town, fighting for the ball, that Salsi or Stadikor is a full town, just fighting with a little bit of order, but a hell of a lot more brutal, and so yeah, that's been me for this week, I'm currently waiting for Mike to send us the, the list of what's left in the mock draft, I made my, uh, number 11 pick, uh, it was it last night, and it was for the number 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