The Joe Budden Podcast
I'll Name This Podcast Later Episode 65
The voice of New York! Angie Martinez stopped by to discuss her upcoming book "My Voice", as well as some typical INTPL banter! Pre-order her book here --> http://thevoiceofny.com Use code "JOEFREE" to get your first month free at www.getbevel.com
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I used to be in Joe's house when he was shooting to hear you with his phone on shooting her S and then putting it on social media. Which is more than her hand. So I was thinking... My home. Well... Alright. What we cared about. Oh, there you go. So I'm thinking Joe's doing his podcast from his living room, playing Monopoly whenever he feels like it. Oh. I didn't know this was like a serious operation that you have a place you come to see. So... You come to see. You come. We just sit on our iPhone. Everything I love. Everything I love. I imagined you in the house whenever you felt like it. Just recording a podcast. But that is how it should be. So maybe I didn't take you seriously enough. So then when you were like, "Yo fam, you said you were coming to my podcast." I thought I'm so sorry. Hey, big head. You don't fuck with me no more. First of all, I didn't know I was hot out here in the podcast. Circuit. I know you cared. Oh, I didn't know you... You're embedded. Everyone cares. Oh, please God. No. That's real. Also, I didn't know. Now I know. Now I'm sorry. No. I'm sorry. God. I'm gonna God. I am out of the one button. And his ass, baby, baby, baby. What? No. Can't you believe about what I'm saying here? No, not that I don't believe any of it, but certainly you can't come in. Host while the whole thing is going. Please your case. And then the move on. Anyways, that's what I do best. That's what I do best. I know. I know. I know what I do best. No, no. So, no. I'm happy that's in here. I hate you already. I'm happy that Angie is here. Hi, Joey. This is so multilayered. It is. Or a plethora reason. This is a moment. This is a moment for me. Is it? This is a huge amount for me. I want you a little worried. You're the only one. Because I gave Angie's assistant my card and pen and I don't know if she got a scammer boyfriend in Brooklyn. So, I don't remember. No, we're okay. I only have good people around me. I trust the judgment. Yeah. I got good judgment of character. Except for my friend over here to the left. Yeah. No, I'm good. That was going to be my next point. I had to check it out. I was like, right and left. I'm right. So, you're the only one I don't know. Yeah. Okay. Michael Roar. I think you've interviewed. Don't just let her do it again. Oh, sorry. That's true. Did you radio or something? Yeah. I'm going to back up. You tell me what you want me to say. You two stop. Sorry. You two stop. Okay. Me too. No. Now, when Elliot Wilson. Yes. I was eating. I thought you don't reference other podcasts. No, I'm shouting. I'm mentioning a person. Okay. Elliot Wilson. Do you not like Elliot or something? No. No, no. All of the podcast people stick together. Okay. Good. But there's a friendly. It's friendly. Friendames. Yeah, it's friendames. I think we're the only independent. We are. We are. Everybody else. They're down with a conglomerate. Let me tell you something. I'm into these podcasts. I'm into it. Me too. I might want to join the club. I was just talking to Bay. Who the hell is Bay now? I still don't fucking know. Who is this? I guarantee you her ass is fat in her waist and she uses a waist trainer. I signed an NDA. And tell me that she'll be on 16 minimal. Be honest. Her waist to ask for a ratio is completely like. Be honest. No, tell me the truth. Oh, we're so close yet. So distant. Why you have a new type? I've modified my lifestyle in. Okay. So her ass is only large. Not extra large. I don't think that Bay has a huge ass at all. Oh my God. I guarantee it. I bet your body begs to differ. But your perspective is off. No. If it's the girl I'm thinking of, no. She doesn't. Lies. Let me say a photo. I know you have a photo of her ass on your phone. I know you do. I don't. This is a lady, baby. This is not. So how long has this been going on? So how long has this been going on? Angie, you're not interviewing shit. Shut the fuck up. This is my shit. All right, fine. Now, what do you want to know? Now, since you want to be a dick. Let me see. Let me see how good you are at this. Okay. Let me see what questions you have. You have prepared questions. Did you do research? Go. I'm sorry. Go. Carry on. I'm going to be quiet. Now, many of you do not know that Angie, I credit you for helping me to modify my lifestyle this way. So we stay on this topic. Okay. I like this topic. Okay. Angie gives great advice. Now, you sound motherly and auntie like, you know, voice in New York. So you're welcoming. Your voice. You're welcoming naturally. Okay. But Angie gives great fucking advice and I didn't know that. What do you mean you didn't know? Because you didn't take any. No, I didn't know that when I found out years ago. Oh, first. Years ago I went to Angie and catastrophic pain. That level pain. Yeah. That was, I wasn't going to you because I needed Angie's advice. I needed someone a sap and how you behaved in that moment strengthened what I already knew and felt and thought about you. And we've been off the races ever since. With that said. Do you tell people that about that? No. No. I have never. What we do is what we do. I hate people. I'm still me on this podcast. Yeah, I got it. Yeah. So yeah, no, I ain't. I don't tell people that. But so I always, we know, we fly like that. So, but no, I've taken that advice, no more strippers, no more bartenders, none. Not that there's anything wrong with them. There's mad shit wrong with them. No, I think, you know, I won't say, oh, I won't say, oh, maybe someone just finding their way there and say, you know, whatever I could. Whatever. Whatever. Whatever. But the saying your habits need to change. Yeah. So things are, things are different now. I'm happy about that. Good. Now things are different for you. Yes. Oh, this is what we're doing? Like personal business? No. Oh, I thought you were going to be like. No, no, no, no, no. Come on, I don't do that. Oh, whatever, I don't. I'm out with the book. I want to get the professional shit out the way so I can clown. Okay. That's how. Oh, this is like a serious interview. I'm sorry, I'm focused. Go ahead. What are you doing? Son now. Oh, hold on. Am I stepping on your foot? Let me get the book. She has to get the book. You have the book? Well, I mean, I thought she gave it to Elliot and not us. Can I read the book? I know. Can I read the book? Since it's only a couple of pages, you said? Like on the podcast? No, no, I went to myself. I can read really fast. You can read it today, but not right this second. Okay, fine. We're talking. We're talking. But I could talk and read at the same time. But why are you? I want to see the book. Well, I will say the last book we got was how to be a bad bitch. Oh, that was fine. Was that good? Like on the coffee table at my house? I see. I couldn't really leave had to be a bad bitch. I did. I liked it too with some people. Was it good? I mean, it was more like a -- it really wasn't a -- I don't think I was the audience. I'll be honest with you. I wouldn't run into gravity. The work itself is pretty good. This is a great-looking book. Thank you. You look great on the cover. Thank you. Angie Martinez, forward by Jay Cole. I pre-ordered last night. Very excited about it. Thank you, Mom. I see a bunch of amazing quotes from many of the great -- amazing people. -- relationships you've established over the years. How did you feel doing this? That's what I want to know. Was this still really -- Can't hear it already now. Because you know, I'm two weeks out. It's not -- the world hasn't seen it yet. So I'm having a little anxiety right as you think. No, not releasing. Not releasing. Yes. No fear. Because I thought to myself, let me just get it out. And then if I feel fear at the end or if I feel like it's too much, then I'll just pull back. Let me just write it with no thinking. Let me write it with no repercussions of anybody. Let me not worry about people's feelings. Let me not think about anybody. Let me just write my shit and then I could assess after. But the truth is, I wrote the shit and then I felt like I'm okay with everything that I feel and think and there's nothing that you have to feel away about. Yeah. I feel like there's a couple of people that I am prepared for somebody to feel away about maybe something I said. I am also prepared for something I didn't mean for somebody to take wrong. I'm also prepared for somebody to have a different memory or recollection of how I saw it. And that's fine. That's what I'm asking about because that's so new. I would think in your field, you're so great because you know how to avoid that. So now to be in the arena where you're subject to that too. We're not listening to the voice that's protected by the radio. Yeah. We're hearing straight from Angie Martinez. Yeah, but I don't think that's so different than who I am. Not who you are, but who you are, who I know. And on the radio, that's ... You think they're different? I know when you're doing a radio interview and one of them did say something real stupid. I know what Angie, my friend, is thinking, I don't know what Angie says on the radio. Okay. Like give me an example. Give me an example. No. Now you get me hot. No, no, no. Can you name a name, please? Yeah. My memory is not even that. You don't drop names. I have listened to them. That's possible, but you know, this headline isn't of everything. My lady's night, right? I want to talk about that only because you hate talking about it. That's such a weird beginning, but go ahead. Not for me, because many years ago during our friendship, I made a ... During a monopoly game. I made mention of Lady's night. You didn't want to talk about it. I was taking it back because for me, that's an important time in hip hop. Why? Because women together, and yeah, yeah, I agree. No, that I agree with. Yes. Totally. Totally, totally agree. That was, you know, even that video, a lot was special just about that time and that moment, but to see the women ... So what I was probably shying away from was not Lady's night. I am no way ashamed of being part of that. I think that was dope, and yeah, I feel like how you feel like about it, and I wish we would see more of that. I just think that part of me being an artist was such a touchy, and I talk about it in the book, and I talk about some of the mistakes I made, and one of the mistakes being that listening to too much noise from other people. You know, I'm good at doing what I'm doing me, but I think at that time, I was insecure, and I was learning. So it's like I'm learning in front of everybody, and I think I let the noise of people's expectations comments, thoughts, blah, blah, blah, get in the way of me actually trying to really become better at it, or really just even if it was just enjoying the experience of that moment. You know what I'm saying? I feel like that's the lesson I learned from that time, because I was in the studio with like Salaam doing my album, and everybody came into ... I'm talking about great artists snoop, and you know, the locks, and all these, like, for real artists, and Jay ... And people were supportive. People were supportive. I should have enjoyed that more than I did, because I had so much anxiety about it. I had so much ... I was nervous. I was like, "Shit, I was still trying to learn," and it'd be like if you was in high school and somebody was like, "Go do this thing with these college professors." Yeah. You were saying so, you'd be like ... and I feel like I should have never let that ... and I'm so usually good at blocking out noise, and at that period, for some reason, I let it interfere with how I executed it. So that's the discomfort that you hear. Okay. You know what I'm saying? It's not like I'm ashamed of ladies' night. All right, I got it. No, no, no, not that. All right. That makes ... I'm ashamed of some of the clothing that I wore. Well, we all around them. We all around them. We changed that. I remember you were a velour sweatsuit when you walked, if I could go on to 106 in Park, and I was watching and playing ... That's probably what I wore. It's probably what I wore. She said that. That's right. I remember sitting in my room. It was probably like a custom joint with like a leather patch on it or something. No. Mottie still wears the same thing. Yeah. Shut up. Mottie probably bought that exact one when I posted it on eBay. Yeah. I guess a lot of them had like knockoffs that wouldn't go in. As worn by Angie Martinez. Well, with that said, in writing the book, obviously, you have emotions when certain things happen between people that you may care about, and there's altercations or misjudgments or disagreements. And then there's the forgiveness process, and you may be cool with those people now. How do you properly express that in the book because you're no longer feeling that way, but you felt that way at a point? Well, this is what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. I just wrote it. Yeah. But usually my truth is okay. So it's like, if you just write the truth, even if you're in the negative part and you're writing it as you felt in that moment, by the time you get to the end, wherever I am now in 2016, that's where I am with it. So it carries folks, like I'll give you one of the examples. Is that my phone? Sorry. Who is it? Anybody good? Oh, so I'll call it back. Is that rude? I was just about to say, I'm really shocked, and she doesn't know to have her phone on Vibre when she comes in the Joe Biden podcast because it's night time. She's always. She's always. She's always in your room. I was going to be like, I didn't know it was like a professional thing happening anyway. So one of the examples, I have to probably call him it. When do you drop this? Before then I'm going to call him, tell him. So, um, Tonight. I mean, there's a bunch of stuff with puff puff and I had had some moments, but you know, I ultimately, like I ran a marathon a couple of years ago, he donated $26,000 to my run. So yes, I felt the ways I felt. And I still, when I write it, I writing it as I felt in that moment. But ultimately we've all grown up and now, so I don't, you know, I don't know feelings about that. But even Salaam, who was one of my closest friends coming up and was like standing next to me, like a lot of the early years, we had a moment where, you know, when the whole thing happened, when Nas remember the Nas, we were just talking about that. So that like hurt me because I felt like Salaam was like, kind of like when you and I were seeing each other. I mean, we're still friends, but I mean, I remember we were almost every day we would talk. Salaam and I would like that for a very long time, you know, and so when the Nas thing happened, he was producing for, he was doing Nas's album. So he was standing next to Nas. And so through that whole time, he never really reached out to me and I felt the way I felt like, you're supposed to be my, like, okay, what are you working with, like my real friend, like you're my, but, and so I write about that in the book, but you know, me and Salaam are friends now again, since then, that was just the moment in time. He just hit me now to ask me about the book party because he wants to go to the book party. So I had to- When is the book party? Are we invited to the book party? You want me to tell everybody when and where or can I tell you when we're done here? You can text it to me. Okay. Yeah, no, put the RSVP email in here as well. But we're doing a bunch, so we're hitting the road. But I adore Salaam and respect Salaam, but it was just, you know, I could, I wrote it in an honest way. In an honest way, I felt away as his friend, your producer, Nas is trying to put my lights out. You don't even reach out to me and make sure I'm good or to just leave, you know, check the temperature, but also on his side of it, you know, I was busy. We hardly wasn't really speaking that much anyway, just because of our lives. He's producing his album. He's standing next to him every night. He probably just wanted to stay out of it, which I totally understand, but in the moment, how it felt was. And so I had to be honest when writing that, but, so there's like shit, you know, there's stuff like, I could call some podcast, right? Hell yeah. Fuck yeah. Yes. On our podcast? No. One thing I wish I could do on the radio sometimes, but yeah. So I tell stories like that about shit like that. Do you think that this is a book you could have written at any other time? No, no, because now I feel like I just had a big, this big transition. Last year, which gives me, and I feel like the things that are in my brain and the ideas and creative shit that I want to do is so forward that right now I'm like in between both worlds. It's like I have this amazing radio career for the past 20 years. And then I also have these ideas of grandeur of things that I want to do and more books and maybe films and TV. Like I have all these things that I, and so I feel like right now, especially after closing the chapter at heart, I feel like people just gave me so, I mean, I feel like the love, whatever relationship I had with like listeners or the culture or whatever our relationship was. I feel like in that moment when I made that change that it was amplified. You know what I'm saying? Like I felt like everybody felt strong either that it was either they were madder or they were love me more and want to tell me, but everyone had a feeling. Everybody had a feeling and that should affect me. I'm so confused. What do you mean? Why? Because every day your point is the voice of New York, how did you think New York would feel when someone who's established enough to say I'm the voice of New York leaves that station that they have heard her on forever, even when people like me did not know. Very sudden. Nobody knew. I know I'm aware. Nobody. So it's, it's, it's not that I think didn't think people were going to react. It's just I had so much other shit to prepare for. I had to prepare for like, how am I going to get out of this smoothly and make sure I show the respect to the people that deserve the respect and the transition and how do I just myself be right and my, you know, I was worried about so much and I knew people would react, but I had to like just kind of like, it'll be whatever it's going to be. They're going to be mad. They're going to not understand. They're going to love what, but I did not expect because, you know, you make an announcement like that to know everybody's like, yo, the time, yo, one time you did this, one time I saw you here and you said this to me and I carried it, you know, one time I called your show and I met my wife and I had proposed her on the air and we're married 10 years like all this stuff. People started coming at me. So I, all those stories and I started just thinking like now is the time and I have, I have people that grew up with me and also I'm seeing a shift in the culture, right? So it's like I just yesterday I went to go do some carbon doing these colleges. And so I'm seeing some of the history, it's like a gap. Where you going? Am I boring you? Are you sweating because it's 150 degrees in here? Yeah. So there's a gap. No, so I think there's a gap in some of the, you know, the things like we remember, some of the important shit that happened on the radio that we might remember. I think there is a generation coming up now that doesn't remember those stories, not for that. They don't remember Jay Z and R Kelly come up to the station in the middle of the night because the best of both worlds fell apart. They don't remember the locks getting that puffy on the air trying to get their publishing back. They don't remember, you know, you were just hugging them all, you know, we got on the radio and shit it on, you know, on how we spoke all about that on two podcasts ago, but there is a new generation that didn't experience that because the bird man thing happened and everyone reacted and we were discussing how much did that happen on radio. Now you said something to me a long time ago and I really couldn't understand the weight of the sentence at the time, even though you tried to explain it to me, but I probably was blocking all that shit out because of my own personal shit, but you said, and we were talking about you and your relationship with your child, I get a lot of jewels from you on the low. I love that. That makes me so happy. That makes me so happy. I think you don't, I think, you know what I'm saying? I love that. Well, I have to cherish my older friends because I hang around so many fucked hearts. You said... Thanks. You said... I hang out so... And you said it almost like you were having an epiphany yourself. You said, "Yo, I really like my kid." I've told that story not about you, but I've said that about my kid who I'm recently getting to know. Yeah. I like him. It's good. That's good. That's good. No, it's better than great. It's great. I could have not liked him. That would have been awkward. Yeah. No, but her saying that... I know that this sounds real. Yeah, you're just supposed to like your kid. That's what I said. You are supposed to like your fucking kid. It's different when you can like your kid. So to see you... And I know we're supposed to talk to you about this book, but fuck that because I'm on energy. Okay. And to see you from your career who we, all right, we thought you were at the top there, but no, there's even greater than that. And to see you go through and come out, and I'm not gonna talk about your personal life, but to be happy there as well, and to just finally start to see the work from years past come together. We don't talk about that because I ain't a sucker-ass nigga, and I don't really care. But I'm proud and it sets an example for people like me. I am not saying that again. Now... When did this book come out? Come on, come on, come on. What's that? Is this the new girlfriend doing this? You're gonna have a heart attack when you find out what this girl is. I know her. I think so. And we were just talking about you. But... Does she know where... Oh, that's a conversation. Oh, I think I know who it is. Bam. Because I looked because I had your phone and I was like, "I wonder what that name is? Oh God, I think I know." No. Her name is not even as a name. No, I don't believe you. I don't believe you. Nope. I know. But... Yeah, that's neither. What is the big secret? Is there a like... It's not. I don't speak to Marissa about anything important. Why would I speak to Marissa about anything of her element? Hey. You don't wanna speak to her. Oh, Angie's doing that thing again. No, I don't divulge everything. Okay. Good. I'm like you now. I keep saying something. Well, I just wrote a book about my life. I divulge a lot. She did just write a book. She did just write a book. Yeah, but on her terms. Everything should be all the time. After she's waited some time, 20 years. Hey, that's how it should be done. Absolutely. Let me tell you something. Sit on some shit for 21 years. Then make a decision. Don't just be hasty and hit sin. Yeah. Don't just go write a book about some shit. Damn it. Out the gate. Yeah. No, no. This is how it should be done. Pass me this. It really does help because then you could really reflect on the full picture of everything. You can't write about it while I still emotional and still look, you'll hear. You could go straight to this to the pictures. That'll give you... You know, I'm of so much hope. I know, but this will give you an understanding of what I get into, like, you know, my father and his... And his head. And his habits. And by the way, his habits, yeah, he was addicted to heroin. So then I go into... Oh, wasn't everybody back then? Yeah, but I haven't seen him since I was 10 because of it. Oh, okay. So then I go into family and then I end with family. I end with my new family. So it goes... I know. I know. I know. So I go from my family and as a child and then I go through... These are all my, like, those are, like, all my God-sons and my son and my son's brother, half-brothers. But why is he wearing the Warriors jersey? Where's this picture being taken? No, because that's his basketball team. Oh. He was coming from a game. He looks crazy. He needs a haircut and that picture. But whatever is the picture, I had to pull them together. So... These are amazing pictures. Yeah. So it takes you through my career. There is my career. And then... But you can get a sense. Like, I really go to the spectrum. You could go to the chapter list. That'll give you an idea of, like... Well, that's what I was trying to do. Sorry, I know. You're so good at your job that you won't let me be good at the podcast. But go ahead. No, carry on. Where is this? I don't want to read this. That's why. That's just from the publisher. Because from reading... Let me get here. Oh, yeah, baby. Give me the... I was... I used a little Oprah quote at the beginning because I love that. You could read it. It's okay. No, you just... You just... You had to keep it small. It's bad though, but this is good. It's dope though. It's still good. Pick it. I was once afraid of people saying... If you read it like that, it sounds nuts. Saying it is really... It's really regular. I was once afraid of people saying, "Who does she think she is?" Now I have the courage to stand and say, "This is who I am." Okay. Oprah Winfrey. Talk about it. And it's true because, you know, it'll be like... You know, I was a kid. So you're like, "Oh, I'm just trying." I think that's what explains what I've been best trying to say. A lot of the things that I know that you may have felt uncomfortable with at some point, you seem to have owned. And how do you get to that point? Yeah, tell me, Risa, please. Well, no. I mean, but also you made a point too when you were saying... You know, I'm talking about people coming up in this radio culture. How it's a lot different. And there's so much more noise now and so much more people getting in your head and it's a lot harder to tune in out and... It's hard for me. And I think I'm good at it and it's still hard for me. So I really almost feel bad for people that never experienced anything else. It's a struggle. Not a struggle for me. It has to be. It's a struggle for me. Sometimes I want to post something and I'm like, "I'm not going to post that." Because who the hell wants to deal with the bullshit that somebody's going to say? The comments or whatever. Sometimes I have an amazing moment with my kid and I don't even want to share it because it's like... I don't even want to put myself open. But then it's like, then you're halfway living your life and your truth. People are not enjoying moments. They're just trying to convince other people that they are. That also, and I think it's almost like a comedy contest of who could be the funniest and who could be the most disrespectful and the trolliest in that. And it's a very dysfunctional kind of... I mean, it's hilarious. I thoroughly enjoy it sometimes. But sometimes it's very sad. And it's like, I see the effects of what it does to especially, you know, even me. I'm grown and kind of evolved. But even somebody, a younger woman especially, that has to feel like she got to look a certain way to get a certain amount of followers, a certain amount of hits, certain amount of comments. I couldn't... I'm glad I have a son. I'm glad I have a son who's like, "I don't really need social media, Mom." I'm like, "Thank you, Jesus." Is that what he says? Yeah, he wanted it at one point and I said, "No." And then I see all his friends have it. And I'm like, "Okay, I at least want to talk to you about it." I'm not saying yes, but let me see where you're at with it. It's more good. And so I came back around to it and I was like, "So, how are you feeling about it now?" He was like, "Yeah, I'm kind of over it. I see it in my friends and I've seen it. He's seen them do it and look." And he was like, "It just seems like too much work. I'm cool." And he's, you know, so he's not pressing. That's amazing. I know. I mean, I wish I could get him off the damn Xbox. It would be amazing too. My kid is moved to that Xbox in the phone. The Xbox is the devil. It's the devil. It's in the phone, YouTube, right? What ever it is. Yeah. Does he watch kids play games on YouTube? All day. That's like a thing. That's so quick. They watch other kids playing video games on YouTube. They say. That's all he wants to do. He wants to watch them. It's so weird. I'd rather that, though, than you be on Instagram or Twitter or search for likes or search for, you know, followers or search for validation. Validation. Validation, right? I'd rather you just find something that's funny. You know, whatever. I'd rather that. How many ailments do you have currently? The listeners don't know, but Ang always has an ailment. She can't bowl without one. You're in it. It's the reason that we don't go bowling anymore. You're pink. Because I hurt my hands. You sprained your pinky. I sprained my wrist. You just, your ear low broke. My ear low broke. You're doing it some weird, wild, stupid fucking injury. Well, that's a lie. I have plenty of days where there's no injury. Well, we don't bowl. I get headaches, though. I get migraines. Oh, that's bad. That's bad. But all it agrees is. And then the migraines affect other things, so that it makes you like not want to be do anything. So no bowling, no more monopoly, no nothing in your spare time to have fun. See, that's what I do in love. I'm going to get me some damn love and I'm going to stop fucking with you niggas two plants. What are you talking about? Well, I do stuff. What do you do for your migraines? Don't play monopoly. She takes fucking time. Who's a bitch? Who's a better monopoly? Do some migraines. It doesn't work like that be. The key is to catch it early. I'm so into them now. I can feel it coming and I pop a couple of excedures before. I should get money for that. Wait. How are you all getting migraines? I get migraines a lot. I used to get them at least once or twice a month. Shit is like on emergency room. You better die. I've been to the emergency room at least five to six times. When the lady says to me on a scale of one to ten, I'm like 12. My head feels like I am going to explore. I haven't got one that bad in a long time, but yeah, throwing up the whole thing is bad. It's terrible. Well, playing monopoly with Joe will cause one. I would stay away from that. So it was probably Joe because I haven't had one in quite some time. Yeah. And he's used to way worse than me. The curve is much louder than me. I was actually one of the more quiet people. I can't even imagine how bad they are if it's unbearable. I stop playing with them. You only broke. Listen, this is the thing. She only has one cup. I pre-order mine. I'm going to get you guys a paper that's pretending I'll stick it in my book. I'm going to give you one. I get bunched next week. Early ones. I don't want to scare anybody. Oh, God. What are you doing? But it don't sound like you trying to be a power too much longer. No. What? Why? That creative. Oh, no. No. All right. Take it back. In the same exact capacity. No, I definitely would like to do more stuff. They haven't. By the way, that company has a ton, iHeart is high. iHeart has a ton of stuff that they're doing, so I can't talk about it yet. Okay. But there's a lot of opportunity within that company. And so I'm good. And the radio thing is easy. It's like not hard. It seems like I can do that and still explore other things, do other things. And I could do that within that umbrella. And that umbrella is very helpful. But I can't ask you about another other thing yet. Why? Oh, yeah, because I'm still... No, because I'm focusing on my book now, if anybody might hand it. But when is... One promotion at a time. When is the book being released? How are you buying it? You went with it. I already preordered on Amazon.com. Yeah. Preorders. I heard that. So I feel that pre-orders are important. It's like first week for a movie, like first weekend, because the pre-orders get you on those lists. And to sell... It's available May 17th. It's available May 17th. May 17th. It's a voice, Angie Martin. Are you gonna really read it? Will you read it? I'm... I'm really gonna read it. Not just because we're here and you're here. I'm gonna read it. I'm truly looking forward to learning from this book, like really learning things from my career. Really? Yeah. Good. That makes me happy. There's a lot in there. I'm gonna tell you that. Yeah. This is like even before we knew you were coming to the show, I just had it on my to-do list to pre-order and I kept forgetting. And so finally when I knew you were coming, I pre-ordered it. My assistant, she read it three times. Yeah. Like, I'm so... I'm so looking forward to... Yeah, but this is some bullshit because I didn't even want Angie to come in until I read the book. I know the book. I couldn't read the book. I can come back. I was about to say. You have to come back. Yeah, we got to like a part two after we digest. Here's the thing, because I'm gonna do an audiobook too, which I'm excited about. Smart. Yeah. The same book or... Yeah. No, this book. The audio. I'm doing it now. I was supposed to come out at the same time, but it's taking me longer than I did. Is it with... Ooh, no. I was like, I went through that for an hour. No. It's a long time to do an audiobook. Yeah. So if I come out, I don't think the same day. It'll be like a couple of weeks after, but did you know that audiobooks could get nominated for Grammys? No, it didn't. I know. So nobody should have ever told me that, because now I'm like, it has to be... You gotta tell, like... I gotta do it, bro. And then... I gotta get someone to score it. Yeah, I gotta do it. By the way, I thought about that, but it's called Jay. No, that would be dope. Call home and get him to like... Could you imagine the music at some ad-libs? That girl would be amazing. Call just Blaze. It would be like a park. It would be like... It would be like an eight-hour podcast, with like music, but the book company is like... Have these artists jump in with their quotes for you, but say it live on the audiobook? I do have somebody really dope reading the forward for me, the Jay Cole forward, because I didn't really want to be like reading about myself. Oh. So it's not Jay Cole reading it. No, I have somebody else. Actor. Ooh. Yeah. A good one. Warged for me. Yeah, totally. Because he's about to do it in two days, and it's like it happens, and I'm like the jerk thousand. Yeah. I guess. I don't know. You might... We might sell more copies we do in the audiobook after. People might buy both. Tell me what I'm hoping. Yeah. I hope so. How many books do you have to sell? It's different from albums. You know, I keep trying to understand that I keep asking these questions. 30,000 books? It's like that. It's like 20, something like that in the first week or something. Yeah. They got funny rules. But I can't get a clear answer. So I'm just like... I'm just going to go hard, and I'm going to put it in the air, and I really hope that people like getting themselves a lot. But I don't know. I don't know what it takes to get a bestseller, but I hope I get one. Because I want to be able to be like, "Yeah, I'm going to be a seller." Well, I think you won't... Yeah, I don't... I don't see it not happening. I mean, if it doesn't, it's fine, whatever is supposed to happen is supposed to happen. What? I believe that. I must not bullshit. I really believe that. You're looking at me as if I don't. Oh. I don't know. He was saying like... I thought you thought I was like... No, no, no, no, no. Like they think I am. No. They think... May 17th, Angie. Are we finished? My voice and memoir. No. I wanted to ask you. Did you... No, I just wanted to let people know. Did you see the actress playing you in the Tupac movie? I saw something of her, a picture of her on Instagram. And how crazy is it the six degrees of separation or whatever? Because that's... Juski's. Is it? That's his ex. Oh, is that what that is? Yes. Isn't that crazy? Well, I didn't know number one. And number two, I was like, "How come nobody called me? I want to ask me..." I got any input on that. No, because I had reached out a couple of times, and I don't know if we reached out to the wrong person, because you don't have these Tupac tapes, and I heard they were doing this Tupac movie, and I was calling just because I wanted to make sure they got it right to offer some information, and I never was able to get in touch with anybody. And then later I found out there's somebody in the movie playing me, but I'm like, "How could she play me? How do they even know what really happened?" Yeah. So I don't know what the movie... I don't know... Anyway. It's a movie. That's amazing. The clips I saw on Instagram are creepy, but I mean creepy in a good way. Yeah. All right. Good. I hope so. I hope it's good. I hope it's good. It's Pac and the guy playing Shug in the BMW in Vegas. You know what? It's down to the laugh. It's like scary to look at. I hope it's good. I was hoping that. I'm very skeptical of it as well, but from like he said, the clips... I'm skeptical of it. I just don't know what my role. They had somebody playing me as well. I don't know what she's doing, and nobody ever asked me what happened, so I don't know what she's going to say or portray, because they don't know. Nobody asked me. They should buy the book. I don't know why... Why would they not? I was going to send them the book. They're waiting for the book. Because I have excerpts. I told the whole story. Like they could have... I would have sent them early copies just to tell them. And those... Those Pac tapes are not fully out. No, it's like 12 minutes of a two and a half hour. Yeah, okay. I wasn't sure. That were released. I did put some in the book because I put transcripts of the parts that I didn't hear. I wanted to tell the story of not just for like, oh, I got the exclusive. It's really, I just wanted to show why I didn't do it, give you a sense of what the reasoning was. So I shared some of those transcripts in there, and I tell the story about going there, and I hope that whole thing. Yo, you're doing such a great job of making me want to make this fucking book. Really good. Yeah. I mean, I feel like... You know what I mean? I like it. It's my life, so I would. But I feel like... I just feel like I have things to offer at this point. So maybe that's to go back to your question. Like, is now the time? It's now the time because I feel like I have things to offer, not just history and stories to tell, but also lessons that I learned from it. So it's like... So I feel good about it. It's not just like, oh, let me write a book because I didn't, you know, because I'm... You know what I mean? It's not funny. There's a lot to tell. That's the time. Yeah. I don't think anybody ever took in for a tell-all book person. Do you know what we don't do? I don't think this as it being a tell-all, it's more like a... Not a tell-all. It's not a tell-all. Yeah. I'm saying she's not... But I tell a lot. Yeah. But I tell a lot for a reason. I tell a lot for a reason. But you didn't tell... Oh, it's a tell-all-odd book. Before a reason. It's not just... A tell-all-odd for a reason book. Yeah. It is different from that. But I'm just happy to be able to have the term author next to your name. That's nice, right? That's pretty great. No, it's pretty amazing. And something happened... You should write a book. I want to. You absolutely should. I want to. Let me tell you what happens to you. And then all of a sudden you start looking at things differently, because now you're like a writer and I know that sounds crazy, but it's really true, because you start processing things like... I don't know how to explain it, but something happens to your brain. Something clicks in your brain that wasn't clicking before. And now, so when I see things, I'm like, how would I tell that story? You start thinking of things as stories, everything that happens. It's a very interesting little process. But I think you, who's so cerebral, I think you would really enjoy the process. Well, it's funny you say that. That's been happening a lot lately. Good. I've been telling all my young people about that. Oh, a little cerebral action. But outside? Oh. There's fucking wire. There's niggas in here tweeting. They don't do shit. They don't do shit. They don't just feed up the liver. You don't have to leave. You don't have to leave. On the hallway voice. What is the last... What do you want him to do? I want him to look alert. And engaged? Yeah, I want him to look like he's somebody who has two hours. Yeah. And usually when someone's rendering services, I just want them to look like they're rendering alerts. That makes a good rendering. Feed up. Chill out. Well, I'm sure he's not here by choice. I'm sure if his services weren't being rendered, he would be somewhere else. Our podcast is very enjoyable. No. Oh, yeah. He looks like he is thrilled every second. Yeah. We're gonna get the fuck out of here. It's fine. Listen, what do you do outside of work? You're so private. It's tough to interview you. What do you want me to tell you? What would you like to know? What are you asking specifically? See? No. Just get to it. What do you want to know? I want to know. I want to know what you do for you outside of work. I don't do enough for me. That's the truth. Like I don't do... I work on that. That's the one weakness I have. It's like I have to learn how to... Even this week, I'm on vacation this week. My boss said to me and she yelled at my assistant, "Do not let her book anything this week." She needs a vacation. My boss forced me on vacation. I book a trip to go away and then they tell me, "We got these college dates and I get excited about the opportunity to go talk to these college kids about my book." I say, "Book it!" Then I call my friend Joe and I'm saying, "Hey, let's do the podcast on Tuesday." I do not take enough time for myself, something I need to work on. It was a very random call last night. Because I'm looking at... I have a free Tuesday and I remember you saying whenever you have a free Tuesday, I'm like, "Let's do it now." Because the schedule the next month is crazy. So I was like, "Let me get in and now." So this is my vacation week right now. I'm on vacation. It feels like I'm in Africa in this studio, by the way. I keep telling you. It's cold enough to vacate. We want to make it a tropical. You could have at least got me like a Peña Colada or something. But when are you going to dance from a ticket vacation? I don't know. I'm going to figure it out. So that's the only thing. That's the bad thing. But there's a lot to balance. I have a regular job. I have a family. I have a child. I have a book. I have a promo. I have all these other projects that I'm, you know, it's like, it's a lot. It's a lot. It's too much. How long did it take you to write? It's not just me. I mean, a lot of people feel that experience. I'm sure. But at some point, you have to find time for you. I know. Are you uncomfortable when you have free time and aren't doing anything? Do you get like antsy? No, but I have so many creative ideas and thoughts and things that every time I have a free space, I want to fill it up with shit. That's why I'm scared of older, successful women. Yeah. That right there. Why? Because a lot of them suffer. They just call me older. That's like, what? Anyway, gone. Older, older. Grown-ups. Well, you know. Right. Bartenders and strippers have the whole day for you. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just. Oh, no. My joke. It's fine. You got to see where his brain is at. No, babe, girl, kills me with Bartenders and jokes. It's fine. I don't care about that. But see, now I forgot what I was doing. It's scary as you are. Does that fill up the time? Older. That they don't know how to. There's a coin. There's a terminology for that. What is it called? Yeah. That's the thing. I do have a good balance with my family and friends and work, but I need to insert myself into that equation a little bit more. Yeah. But it's not that I don't have time for, like, my family and my kids. You know, things like that. No, I'm not saying that. But so late in the game, how do you learn, how do you learn how to do that? Yeah. I will tell you that. Let's get to the nitty gritty. You know what I do now? This is, and I'm going to, I'm going to figure it out in the next couple of months when to do it. You know what I do once a year? This is going to sound weird to you. How old do you? Twenty-eight. I almost forgot. You might be almost ready to do this. She's not old friends. No, listen. Listen. Listen. Once a year, I've done this. This is, like, my third year in a row now. Once a year, I go somewhere by myself. And I was somebody, I would never go like to the movies for myself. I would never, like, number one because I was always busy or just felt weird or whatever. And now I force myself to go somewhere to shut off because even if I'm with my man, my friends, my co, even if I'm with somebody on vacation, there's energy you give them. There's brain power. You give them your operating under somebody else's schedule. I shut down for, like, three or four days, go somewhere, book, magazine, news, but whatever I want to do, and usually I do nothing. Usually I'm, like, by a pool sitting around for four days. Which is fun. Dying to come home. But it's like forcing myself to do that. It's like to shut down. And I swear, it's like I feel so much better when I come back because your brain gets a chance to, like, to just, like, settle down and you get clarity on it. Yeah. I mean, I recommend that for you, my dear. Yeah. I found the more that I pile on, it's becoming killing my creative, not necessarily. How could it not? Like... Yeah, that's the thing. You got to give yourself those moments. So I try, I try to do that. It's only once a year. I try to do that twice a year and then do, like, family vacation and get that in. I would be a much better balance. So... I'm working on it. What the fuck do you want me to tell you? I got it down now. I don't. Okay. I'm not perfect. I can't say anything. She's not even taking vacation. I'm judging me. No, no, no, no. I haven't taken a... I need a fucking vacation, actually. I need a DR trip or some shit. Yes. Yeah. And not to fuck with the escorts out there. Like, to really spend time at the... Oh, God. At the really spend time at the resort. Now, I never do that when I go out of town anyway. But that's probably one of the reasons I never go on vacation though. I don't go on vacation because when I go on vacation, I stay right in the room. Don't matter where I go. South Beach, I'm in the room. I love the room. That's where I want to be. Yeah. I love paper reels. Yes. I love the mini bar. Yes. I love room service. Oh, it is great. I like the pillow and the sheets. Like, how is it? I will stay away. It's us. I will go to a hotel in the city and stay with two days and turn everything off. Nobody gets when I say that. You do the same thing? That's great. Because he was weird though, when he said... But so am I like that. This is the things I get about you. That we get each other on the same way. Jesus. So, that's why I'm not so quick to ever go on a vacation. But these last... I feel like I've been in LA every month since October. That's not... You have. Not an embanker. It is. It is true. That's not vacation, I said. Oh, no, navigation. Oh, no. What are you doing now? Hey. No. No. I just enjoy LA. But for me, that's different. It's changed. I don't. Very rarely do I ever leave here that often. So even though I go out there and I make work out of it because that's just who I am, I find some work to do. I got a trip this month. They're gonna set up some shows out there. Cool. It's fine. It's different. It's new. That was on my bucket list. I wanted to travel more. Do you have a real bucket list? Yes. Skydiving was on my bucket list. I have a bunch of shit that was on my bucket list. Me too. Isn't it weird how much we're like in strange ways like that? No. We literally have. Never in my life peg you guys as similar people, but it's you are. We have, I have a bucket list, I have a real bucket list too, like I have a real one that I've written stuff down and I have, yeah, I have absolutely those things. Yeah, that makes sense. You have to. You guys don't? But is that weird? Yeah, but I don't write it down. I'm just in my head. No, I have it like it's in my phone. Like it's in the notes. You're too young for a bucket list. I just have go to Greece. That's literally my whole bucket list. That's it. That's one thing. What? Go to Greece. Why? Why Greece? It's beautiful. You heard? Yeah. I have Thailand is on mine. I also do one. I go to Japan. They're very like kitschy over there. So if anybody's listening from Thailand, there's your podcast, do well in Thailand. We got a few. What's the analytics like over there in Thailand? If anybody's listening, I would like to come there. I want to go to Africa. Africa's on mine. Yeah. I would love to go to Africa too. I haven't been yet. I hear it's beautiful. Yeah. I have a problem with very long flights and I don't know how long the flight to Africa is. I feel like it's like six. This is how I feel about Thailand. I think I like some new shit in the plains now where the beds actually perform like beds. Oh yeah. They can go all the way back. You can lay down. Yeah. That might be nice. It's a little fun. I don't know if I want to pay the 35 grand. That's what I'm going to say. 30 pounds. To lay down. It's a little. It's something I have at home. It's fun. I really want to be anyway. Seven dollars for an extra water. I only imagine what a bed would be. Yeah. Save up your points. Oh yeah. Do you get two points? You should stay. Do you join? Do you have airline miles? I don't think Virgin flies to Africa. You don't think spirit. I have points on every airline. I have points on every airline. I have points on every credit card. Like I have. I like points. I feel like women are way more responsible. Literally just about to say women are so much better at doing that than we are. I only collect virgin points. I forget to do everybody else's. There was a joke somewhere. Waste. I know. It is a waste. Waste mine. Waste mine. That was the last point. What do you think of ting? Mans don't like ting. I want to have some of the results. What do you think? Mans don't like ting. Mans don't like ting. Mans don't like ting. Mans don't like ting. Mans don't like ting. Mans don't like ting. Mans don't like ting. Mans don't like ting. Mans don't like ting. Mans don't like ting. Mans don't like ting. Mans don't like ting. Mans don't like ting. Mans don't like ting. Mans don't like ting. Mans not like ting. - Yeah, I have to answer. - That'll be out there. - Yeah. - Sorry. - She don't know that. - He told me he was going to, so I thought it happened. - No, no, no, no, no. - As an admin. I know you have many Drake thoughts. - We don't know. - I thought you did it already. - No, no, no. A lot of the things that I want to discuss to you because I'm one energy, not just in music, but energy, period. I can't speak to everybody about the stuff I want to talk about. That's just where I'm going. - Yeah, on many topics. - Yeah, yeah. - Fuck you, eh? - It's a nice time to be a fucking shit. - No, we didn't particularly talk about the monz and the tings and how he's progressed to that. We didn't speak on that at all. - We didn't speak about Ting Man or any of that shit. - We just said it randomly. - I didn't think it's weird that somebody likes to keep saying Ting Man. I don't know. - That sounds like a Canadian thing, though, that's what they do. - That's bullshit. - That's bullshit. I've been to Toronto a million times. I've never heard Ting Man. - I heard Ting. - Well, Toronto was full of West Indians ever. - Yeah. - Yes. - I'm full. - I know that. I'm just saying when I feel like-- - You can get into Canada? - Not anymore. - That was pretty funny. - What, you can't go to Canada? - No, no. - Why? - What happened? Something happened? - Oh, the thing. - The Ting Man. - The Ting Man. - The Ting Man. - The Ting Man's can't go to the 6th. - Oh, that's the Man Man Tings. - It was that Ting. - But it was the one thing. I feel like they got a little bit more strict at that border. - I was scared to go into the border. - Yeah, they got a little bit more strict. - Drake heard you talking and got you fuck out of there. - I don't know what occurred, but it's like a parking ticket last time. I went over there. - They told me I have to go to 5th and 5th. - What's the parking ticket? - 5th and 5th. - 'Cause they don't give you no information. You get to the border and just be fucked. They're not gonna sit there and explain to you some shit. You gotta figure that shit out yourself. They told me to take my ass down there to 5th and to the consulate and have them sign off for some shit and then go back. I said homeboy for this little bit of $1,000. I'm not doing none of that. I'm getting the fuck out of here. But I will eventually handle that 'cause you do wanna be able to move right now. - There's money over there. - Bond's gotta know yourself before he enters the six. - If Trump becomes president, you might wanna, you know what I mean? Make that move. - Free healthcare. - I'm not paying that. - Anyway, carry on. - We're not. - We should get Drake some credit for making a city so popular outside of the United States. - What did you-- - That guy gets elected? At least we have a popping city to go to now. - Pop him. - What did you think of now? - Oh, the old fast we up in there. - I'm going to that, fuck that. (laughing) - What did you think about Obama out? - Mic drop. - I'm into it. I was into it. - You had to be into it. - Yeah. - I'm assuming you would have to be into it. - Why? What was wrong with it? - Nothing was wrong with it. - Oh, I was interested in it. - Oh no, I was totally, I'm into everything that he, I think he's, I'm like a stand in a groupie. - Yeah, I am. I'm obsessed with him for many reasons. First of all, I have been, you know, I've been to the White House twice this year. In a real way, like introduced him at the Criminal Justice Reform, on the Criminal Justice Reform Panel. And I went back for a panel on Women in Hip Hop. Then actually I've been three times. Then I went back, what was this thing that I just went to? I don't even remember. - The Brothers? - Something that would go by that. - It was amazing. (laughing) - A Black History Month event? Yeah, that's what it was. - Look at you just on point as you want to be. - So I went three times to the White House this year. And I'm going to tell you, to be in that building, it's like they're mad young people of color in the building. And not just, you know what I mean? Not just doing the little jobs. Like, oh, this is such a young, you know, young Black girl, whatever. She's the head of publicity for all of the events in the White House. Like, there are mad young people of color in the White House. And that just, I don't know, it's such a phenomenal, amazing thing to see, to be inside, to see that energy and the fact that, and one of my first trips, one of the guys, the Secret Service guys was outside. And, you know, I started talking to people. I started talking to the guy outside and he's telling me. - He's telling you the Secret Service guys. - I was talking to the Secret Service guy. He told me he's like an older dude, super old. And he's telling me, you know, get him ready to retire or whatever. This is my first trip. This was a while back. And he said, the president, he's went, this is his fourth president. It was Obama's first, it was Obama's first term. First time I went to the White House. And he said Obama was the first president I ever stopped and spoke to him. - He said anything to him of the four presidents that he had been in the White House for. Yeah, like just the energy that it feels, I don't know. - He said so much more than anyone to give him credit for. - It says so much more. And what a tough job, man, that he, you know what I'm saying? Come on. So I just think he's a great, great, I think that whole family is a great, great role model. It's amazing that we saw that in our lifetime. And I think when he gets out of the White House, he's going to be even more powerful. - I was just saying, I can't wait to see what he does when he gets out. - I think so because who else can move people like he can? He could, he could, you know, he's an organizer by nature. That's what he does, that's his career. He was an organizer for many years, then became, you know, biopic senator or whatever. - He deserves like six months to just disappear and not do anything. - Yeah, I think he will. I think it's like, you know, that's what moves him. That's what, yeah, he's going, he's not gonna sit down and we think he's gonna go sit in a rockin' chair somewhere. - I think he'll try and then get that itch. - His daughter's a young, I think he might go away for a little bit. - And don't sleep on what his daughters are gonna turn into. - Right. - They seem like very bright girls. - I mean, Michelle Obama is amazing. So, they are amazing. I am obsessed with them. - Yeah. - I know a lot about, I know a lot of people that are obsessed with them, no. You know, my grandfather, I mean, my grandmother was obsessed. She was just happy. I'm happy she got to see that before she left. People are proud of him. We, you know, we cheering, we champion it. - Yeah. - If he could run again, you know, but yeah. - But he could not. - Did you see the trailer for the movie, The Two of Them? - You guys talk like about everything, huh? - Yeah, yeah. - No, we just shoot the shit. - Yeah, literally. - When I try to get you out of here, you want to stay? - Were you wrapping me up? - No. It's a joke. - You want me to go? - We joke and you're on this show. - Yeah, we literally just make fun of each other and have fun. - Everything is a joke. - You have actually tried to hold my sarcasm down. - Yeah, 'cause she is. - Yeah, I want to make it so funny 'cause I'm trying to hold my down. - I wanted to make like a funny joke. - Is that the most sarcastic fucking man. You on a book talk and I'm trying to joke and you're being too mature. - Yeah, I didn't want you to look at me like this. - Well, you had all these like questions and you were in questions and you were like, and you asked me like these deep real questions. I thought our conversation, you know, I thought that's where we were going. What do you want me to do? - It's why it's so hot in here 'cause it's weird. We don't do that shit. - Is this weird? It is weird. - I hate you. - We're never the series ever. - I never want to be mature on this podcast ever. - Why are you so serious? 'Cause it's me? - Well, because your book is important, we didn't need to talk about it. - So what? - I didn't even say that. - Before you came, I said, I really don't want to have real conversation because I really do want to like get real information for me because I care to actually learn this stuff. - I'm talking shit, but I do believe that-- - The book is like not serious. I mean, it's not all serious. It's like a lot of-- - We've joked here though. We laughed while we're talking. It's not like we were-- - I don't think many people know like the type of funny. It answers the difference since it's funny. It's funny. It's really fucking funny. Like a dick. (laughing) - All the people that I enjoy personally-- - Shit, shit, shit, soundos. Why is this the case? - The people I fuck with, away from the prestigious people, y'all, they're dicks. I love it. They have the greatest in human in the fucking US. And here's your come. The book is beautiful. It's beautiful. I love it. I'm going to bring it to you. - You said to make me a queen-- - I'm going to bring it to you. - I'm going to bring it to you. - I'm going to bring it to you. - You said to make me a queen. - I'm going to bring it to you. - I'm going to bring it to you. - You said to make me a queen. - I thought I saw it. - No, you didn't see it. - You just lump them all together. I came in on some regular shit and then you stopped me and said you had all these serious questions. Don't put this on me, fam. You did that. You made this serious. - Now. - I'm Mary J. Blige. Could you, I just love that woman. - Yo. - I like that you love that. - Just the other day, my friend ages reminded me how long ago Mary's first album came out and I was sad. - It's a crazy town. - I was sad. - Why? - I don't need to be reminded of how old I am. When I think of what's the 411? - I think that, oh, bruh. - What's the 411? It's 91. - Damn, I was like four, son. - That album was amazing. - You know that album though? - Yeah, I mean. - No, she don't. - No, she don't. - No, she don't. - Everything lacks. - No, she doesn't. That's a lie, you don't have to lie. You don't know what I'm doing. - Don't disappoint me this way. - No, I definitely know the fucking album you assholes. - Name me five songs off that album. - Five songs of any album. - Unless it's a tight all of a sudden. - Exactly. - If it's a tight all of a sudden album, I give you the fucking track list. - But be clear, when you started my show without me, I was coming to this Elliot Wilson for the next 10 minutes, just 'cause it's fun and I do it some time. - Why? - 'Cause it's fun to-- - What is it, what is it about Elliot that bothers everybody? Let's get to it. - Whoa, whoa, whoa, see? Don't do that, don't do that, don't do that. Elliot bothers some other people. - Why? - I don't know. - 'Cause he retweets so much. I just like that I'm just kidding. - All right, so then don't follow him. Why is he bothering you? If you can go at him for 10 minutes. - He don't bother me. - Oh, you just enjoy it. - It's all-- - Yeah, it's all friendly. We said frenemies, friendly competition. - It's fun. The only thing I don't like-- - You just like to laugh shame him. - Is that with it? Are you one of those people? - No. I ain't like Elliot. You keep making it a super supportive of our podcast. - She keeps trying to make it a thing. - Oh, a thing. She should have made it a thing. - It's not a thing. - All right. - What up, fuck you. All right, so I'm getting out of here. May 7th. - Wait, wait, wait, wait. I wanna hear Angie's "Sleeper Song." - Oh, yes, she doesn't know how to sleep. We do a "Sleeper Song of the Week" segment at the end of every podcast. - Oh, what does that mean? We pick a song that we feel like maybe didn't get as much love and it could be old, it could be new, it could be whenever it's just one of our personal favorites. - It's so nice on that popular thing. - More or less. - But you know, you should prepare people for things like this 'cause now-- - Well, Joe was the one on text. - Prepare me as she called me last night to say-- - Hey! - That would have been a good time for you to be, hey, come up with a "Sleeper Song." - I'm not gonna tell you what I was doing, but I was serious. (laughing) - That's too many "Sleeper Song." - Where does the Angie and Joe friendships start? - That's an amazing question. Look at you. - Look at you. Look at you. - Look at you. - Look at you two hours later. (laughing) - Whoa, you guys. - We're not two hours in, are we? - No, no, no, no, we're not two hours later. - Where did sent y'all it so close? Where does it start? - I mean, that's so close. - And don't give me the "You're a rapper" and she was on the radio answer. - No way. I don't remember, I don't remember. - No, we worked together first. - I'm gonna say, did that start when he was at home? - That's how we kind of got to know each other when you were at Hot. - Yeah, I forgot about that. - Really, it started then? - Yeah, that's how I knew you. - Oh, that's when you were at Hot. - I figured it was before that. - Before that, you weren't really-- - Before then. - So then out the gate when you work with somebody, you have a certain-- - Of course. - There's a certain, you know, and then so we ended up living in the same neighborhood at a time, we still kind of do, but like we were like really close, like a few buildings away. - Angie and I quickly found out that we were more like than we were different. - Yeah, 'cause I went to, I probably was probably a monopoly night or something that started it. - No. - We were bowling. - Yeah, one of those. - Yeah. - One of those. - Then we'd like to talk shit and, you know, what was your first impression of young Joe? - He's an idiot. - He's not an idiot, you know that. - He knows that. - Yeah, I probably didn't know that. - No, I asked a question. I was looking at me for the answer of a question I asked. - No. - I'd be lying if I told you I had one or I remember. - Look, I don't know. I don't even remember what we came for. - Hey, when you buy my book. - I don't think you should write a book. I think that would be even. - No, I wanna write a book. - 'Cause you have a story to tell. - I got a lot of stories to tell, but I definitely, definitely wanna write a book. - When we do the podcast where your book is gonna be very serious. - I just think the process, the process, I need direction and guidance. That's what I need. - I can help you. - I don't know how people even go about that. And the people I've seen go about it. I don't like how. - I learned lessons. You know what, I did a cookbook and I learned some lessons from the cookbook. I'm glad I did that. 'Cause this was important. And so I could get it right. - It tells you what not to do? - Yeah. And I learned, even doing this, I learned something. So I'll help you. I'll give you some, I'll put you under that. - Joe would need somebody that would shoot this. - I'll put you with good people. - And brain in one topic at one time. - That is tricks, this tricks. So you know, get all the stories out and then you put them in a certain order. And then you can, you know, it's like ways you can, I'll help you. - I don't have people to help too. - No, I'm saying people to help like with the writing of the book and shit like that. - You don't know, it would really, really help. If you had a shaving product that may be called Bevel. - Wow, because if you look fresh, you'll feel fresh and it will reflect in your writing. - If you're not ready to write the book. - Whenever I shave. - Get you a clean shave and you might be ready. - Can you tell me how you can go about doing that? - I sometimes get unwanted hair over my eyebrows. (laughing) - I know want to. - No, they make me do it. They make me say I have a mustache and they make me fucking me. - But don't you, I'm fucking funny. (laughing) - I always say this is what I never would say you have. - No, I've never said this. - You 100% have a mustache. - No, I know. - I know, I know, I know. - So, I know. - So, I know. - See, I know. - See, I know. - See, I know. - See, I know this is my dad's his car. (laughing) - The first thing I mean, when she walked in this, what a clean shave. - Wait, your mustache can be gone just like Marissa's. All you have to do is get back more. Go to getbible.com, that's G E T B E V E L dot com. And your fucking upper lip can look just as smooth and sensational as minding the bodies. Use a promo code Joe and go there and take care of all your shaving needs, that's getbible dot com. - Oh my God. - And the promo code is Joe Free. - The promo code is D E V E. - No, that's not, it's Joe Free. - Sorry, sorry, sorry, it is Joe Free. - I wanna get paid so much. - It's not D E V E. - So, that was great. Sleeper songs, everyone, everyone, everyone, everyone, Sleeper songs you. - Tie that aside, just put out a new ad lib. - I don't know why. - A new ad lib. - Tie it out, I just breathed. That is the one, that's what I pick. - I don't have a Sleeper song. - I don't either, I'm so unprepared, I feel so wet. What did you do? - We just did back-to-back podcast, so I use my-- - Back-to-back, I'm like, back-to-back. - That was a hit. - That was a hit. - I don't know if you guys have heard this Drake song. - What? - We heard a guy named Drake. - Put you on. - Put you on at his big Sleeper school. - If you love Bevel. - Hotline Bling. - If you love Bevel. - You'll love back-to-back. - What's your Sleeper song? Maybe I'll be inspired I don't think of something good. - Oh, man. - I'm gonna pick another Ted Allen. - I should just go on my phone, 'cause all the songs in my song. - Yeah, I gotta buy the Sleeper's. - I don't even know where all you, she's using that. - I will kill you, please, I can't. - Well, you can't worry. - Carry on. - I can't pick one of the songs. - Just kidding, that's between her and her and I. - Oh, I know what I'll do. - What are you doing? What are you picking? - I know what I'll do. - This may not be a Sleeper song. - Oh, I'm picking this one. - You guys, but it'll be to some of our audience. - Also, I have time, so you gotta play the song, and then I pick it. - Mine's gonna eat ratchety and just extra. - 'Cause I'm trying to-- - Normally ratchety and extra. - Thank you, coming through to me. - You already does, it steals the music. - It's like R&B, you, oh, okay. Your tweet is yours now. I know you smoke a lot of cigarettes, but you're not stealing tweet from me. - I'm feeling romantic? - Hey. - A little bit. - Wow. - I'll bring the vowel from the high back when I come up. - Talk to him, tweet. ♪ Gave you several years ♪ - She gave you several years. ♪ And you say right ♪ - And you wonder. ♪ What's your perception ♪ ♪ Is it not a sleeper ♪ - I never heard of it, so it's sleeping with somebody. - You never heard back to back. (laughing) - Who's that by? (laughing) - From, from months from the six. ♪ Can't go over ♪ ♪ Please go back to me ♪ - My turn? - That's tweet smoking cigarettes, 'cause I was very unprepared this week for this one. - I was unprepared too. I only prepared Mike for the last one, and then I didn't have this. - Nervous. - I wanna fuck up your fade away. Let me know when it's good, and it feels good. Even though Angie called me a set for that shit, when it's good. - I mean, it's savvy. (laughing) - It's 'cause Angie just loves everything. - So this is the opposite of style. - I wanna hear any R&B. Did Jeezy make R&B apples? (laughing) - 'Cause I got like seven Jeezy's wings. (laughing) - What? - Angie's a sleeper. - Jeezy's a sleeper. (laughing) - So, I used him as a sleeper song a few weeks back 'cause the kid named Nef the Pharaoh, he's a 21 year old rapper from the Bay. And this is a song about-- - Well, we're just like-- - So, fifth Nef the Pharaoh. - You know, who you gonna know? - 'Cause I like the Bay. - Fuck you, I like the Bay. - Why are we listening to Nef the Pharaoh? - I think I'm just going about getting head. It's great. (electronic music) - Oh my God. I don't think I like the last Nef the Pharaoh song either. - Yes, you did. It was good. - Which one? She's done fucking seven in a row. - This is over the second Nef the Pharaoh song, fuck her. (electronic music) - I have this one. I feel like I'm excited right now. (electronic music) - Give me $10. (electronic music) - I'm gonna fade it out like Roy does. - Does anyone know Kent Jones don't mind? - Yes, didn't we play that already? - By the way, no, no, none of my friends told me how great that record was. - Wait, which one? - I know it's not a sleeper. - I know it's not a sleeper. I was suggesting it was a sleeper. - I feel like you were suggesting it though. - No, no, no, no. I was surprised that I am-- - He's still in the water to see if we would agree and then just-- - I heard that man parties. I was gonna be a sleeper. That's how I heard it. I heard it in the club. - All right, are we doing ladies first? - No, 'cause I don't know. - Our ladies night. - I'm looking at my phone, I got-- - All right, so you take your time. - This is too much pressure on the side. - I'm looking at my phone. Let's see, don't wanna go Johnny Gil on these holes. You know what I mean? - Johnny Gil. - Yes, see, I speak-- - Is that an option? - You know that BET's doing a-- - Just that fast, I got myself. - The movie. - Yes, no edition movie, no edition film. - And the cast is pretty good. - And I-- - They have Brushier Grey from Empire and-- - I'm not rolling. I gotta see the cast. - Luke James. - It's a good cast. - Who was Luke James playing? - It's a good cast. - I don't know who's playing, huh? - It's gonna be good, I have a little set of cribby. - But it's not just about the cast with that type of stuff. How much of the story are they allowed to say? - Well, they're having the kid version and the adult version. - And who's involved? Who's helping to tell the story? - I'm directing it. - Anyway, I have my song, "Where Is The--" - Beyonce, sorry? - No, no, no, Joe, I didn't do it for the old folks, baby. - Where's the horse court? - And I do it for the young ratchet. - Thanks, Marissa. - What do you want? Am I supposed to go old or new? Does it matter? - It doesn't matter. You do whatever you want. - 'Cause I have nothing. - Whitney? Oh, that's a great song. - Ah, that's not a sleeper, though. - No, no, these ain't really-- - We got young whipper snappers that listen to them. - It don't have to be a sleeper, but-- - All right, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna go to my most played 'cause some of these-- - That's what I did, my number one most played song, which was a title of song. - That was your-- - No, no, no, no, that was the last number one played song, Jesus Christ. - Titleist, I know I came with my number one. - Oh, it's your song, though. I don't wait for me. - Oh, okay, all right. I am going with someone from the royal family. - Kardashians? - No, the original royal family, you guessed it. One of the only Jackson's woulda hit. That's not Jenna and Michael. - She don't? - The toy I got hit. I don't know. We're doin' for the grown folks real quick. Hold on, let me turn this to the music on. Am I almost going on? Oh, yeah, babe. - For radio station we on WJ-- - WJBMC 101.9 each and every Tuesday night. New Jermaine Jackson coming up. I'm gonna go some wear and pay some bills real quick. Don't go anywhere. - Oh, my-- - Look at Jermaine, look at Jermaine, though. - Sex. - Jermaine looks-- - Yeah. - No one ever. - Oh, this song's hard up, quiet. - Quiet. - Hey. - ♪ Has come in my heart ♪ - Oh, yeah, baby. Somebody should rap to this beat. ♪ For me to move ♪ - How do you do it? It's enjoyable. - This is a great song. - Maybe Wiz could do it. - It does weird. Smoker shit. - We gonna let the bridge run and then once we get to the hook, we get out of here, but don't ever cut off the God Jermaine. Talk to him, ah, Jermaine. - Why do you do you plug in your phone? ♪ Every precious moment ♪ - Yeah. - Yes, Anne. (laughing) - You got a nice little setup in here. (laughing) - In my house? - You are not in my house. - I really thought you were in the crib. - I swear to God, I thought you were in the crib. - Even when I sent you to address in the city? - No, let's. - Okay, let's. I've had enough of Jermaine. - I'm not into it. - Shut up, Anne. - You didn't even have a song, but you're not into some my song. - This is a very old song, but this pisses me off 'cause I just did one of these title playlists and I gave them like my favorite '90s collab old songs. And then when I gave them the list, this was missing. I was like, yo, but that's like my favorite one. That's my favorite '90s rap collab old! And then I kept saying it and then there were people that didn't know what I was talking about and it broke my heart. Hold on. Oh, Joey, you know this song. Marissa. - Hey. - This is gonna be if I respect you or not. Oh my God. - Wait, it's a musical I didn't change. You might respect her. - How you getting in? - Hey! - Hold on, not everybody knows this song. - Angie, Angie. - Angie, Angie. - Angie, Angie, Angie. - You kidding me? - Angie, Angie, Angie. - I'm a hip-hop nerd. - Angie, Angie. - You know this song? - You know this song? You can't hear it. - Oh, it's the can't hear it. - It's the guy with that bullshit you blabber. - Done started son. - I got niggas who pop on your block. - You don't know that song, right? How old are you? - 22. - 22. - One, two. - One, two. - This is what I'm saying! You know what I mean? - This song came out when? - I'm not from now to stage by sending me niggas. - Niggas done started, something came out in 1990s. - This should have been a single to me. This should have been a single. - '97, right? - Here's one of my favorite collabos, '90s collabos. Oh, hold on. - I don't want-- - 'Cause you have to go in! - Not when you have-- - I was gonna do the whole DMX verse for you 'cause I ripped my heart. - Okay. (laughing) - That would be epic. - Oh. - Can you rap it for us? - I could do the whole song, please. - I could do the whole song and I could do the whole beat-stream movie. - Yeah, I am gonna lie to you. - I'm talking about the whole beat-stream movie. - This might be one of the worst phone cases. - Don't disrespect me. - I can't disrespect you. - I know! - It's a highlight! It's a highlight! - Oh! - No! - I don't take a lot of selfies, so I usually use it for, I can't see the shits. I use the light to put on. - Yo, this girl is making a lot. I see a lot of people with this. - Yeah, it's tight. He's like Beyonce, stylist. - Yeah, but it's my friend Amber is a, no, Amber is like one of their investors. She's a friend of mine, so she's-- - Yeah, that's a great idea though. - I want one. - It's pretty good, right? - It's a really good selfie, but it doesn't-- - Hey, Ty, if you listen to our podcast-- - It doesn't, what? - I would let one. - It doesn't like let you plug the things in probably. That's why you couldn't hear my song. - The teens. You can't plug the teens. - You can't even hear the promise that we gotta go out with my song, hold on. - This is such a great idea though. - This is my favorite Jim song. - Speaking of Tings, Drake, how's it going down? - What, nigga, that's Sarsa? - It's crazy that people don't know a song, right? - I wouldn't talk to anybody that don't know this song. - Can't talk to her. - Yeah. - She works for us. - Oh, see? - She's like a-- - Angie shouldn't have went first, 'cause they would have done great hip-hop records. I'm sitting here playing Tweet. - Can I play this a song? - Yeah, you should have went first. - You look wild so awful at work. - We have an eclectic group here, and we cater to all different audiences. - I typically do R&B songs. - Yeah, typically do-- - Half of the table was eclectic. - Hey, mine was awesome. Someone out there appreciates it. - We're gonna leave this. I'm shedding up. I wanna thank Angie for coming. Don't talk over it. - It does. - It does. - Hey. - Hey. - Go ahead, go ahead. I mean, you should. This verse, this DMX verse is about to come. I mean-- - One of the hardest verses. - It's so hard! Hold on, it's coming. 'Cause there might be some people that might never heard it. Come on. - Yeah. - Oh, it's not yet. - It's not yet. It's not yet. - This is a kiss. - I know. I've heard a few people talk about it. (laughing) You can read about him in chapters six. (laughing) Angie Martin has memoir. - May 17th. - May 17th. - My boy. - Pre-order available now. - But wait, you know what though? With Colby retiring for 20 years, you, kids, it's so many people that-- - Legend. - Yeah! - They all know each other. I was just talking about that with somebody. - I don't know Colby. - The difference between me and common is all common friends made it. (laughing) - I just want to know y'all just scared to laugh. - Where did you do that? - I don't know. - Huh? - What's wrong? - No, I didn't-- - Oh. - Come on, it's so good. - That's Dallas. - That's Dallas. - That's Dallas. - Is he one of my favorites? - That was on my new project. - Is he? - Raging the machine? - Yeah. - Hey, we're not promoting it. It's not time. - Oh. - It's not time for the mission. - He's so good. That's good people. One of my favorite people in the rap game. - We don't normally let the song rock this long, but we have to hear your music now. - But you have to. - Yeah, I gotta hear you rapping. - Yeah. - You're not going to rap DMX's part? - I'll do it. - Okay, we'll do it together. - We're going to do it. - We're going to do it. - That's the part. - That's the part. - No, you don't. - Okay. - We should think of a cool bet for you. 'Cause you'd be knowing the words that these songs are in love. - Yeah. - Do you know DMX's part? - I know the hook. I don't know the verses. - All right, then that's all. - Really? - Yeah. - That would have been real cool. - That's been fun. - You might know it. It might come to you. - Muscle memory. - And I had muscle milk, so do you know what it's like though? - Yes. - And this part? - You don't know that part. - Part of it. - Oh yeah, come on, come on. ♪ 'Cause when I wet shit I dead shit ♪ ♪ Like abortion ♪ - Come on, guys, you're going to do it with me. - Oh, I didn't know what it's done. All right. - It's already started. - Yeah, it's been a while for me too. - Go! - My memory's bad. - Don't get it. It ruined it. - Wait. - Dad, how many years ago were there? - You didn't get to the part with the chainsaw. - No. - That was like 98. - No, it wasn't. - Yeah. - No, it wasn't. - You came for it. - No, it wasn't. - Yes, it was, 'cause I remember it. - You remember? - I'm not arguing with you. - I was still at elementary school. - Were you? - Yeah. - So good. - So good. - Anyway. - Best thing ands for coming and let's end it. (hip hop music) - Or blending the 24 hours live. - Are you trying to be able to do a whole thing? - It's too late, fam. - My body's your body. - My body. - That's not an hour. - Dad, I might be able to rap the whole thing. - And we love you. Hopefully I will see you, or we will see you doing, 'cause I want to read this book. I want to come after. I want you to come after. - After you read it? Yeah, absolutely. - Yeah. - Will you all read it? Are you gonna all read it? - We're not gonna all read it together. - You should do, like, a book club. - Oh my God. (laughing) - I'll name this book club later. - Oh, man. - No. - Yes! - Yo, I love that. (laughing) - Thank you guys. - Thank you guys. - Bye guys. - Bye guys. - Bye guys. - Bye, Joe. - Thank you guys. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) [BLANK_AUDIO]