The Joe Budden Podcast
I'll Name This Podcast Later Episode 64
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might check one two one two might check one two one two all name this podcast later episode number sixty four i'm your host your button to my right i have mighty more body how are you great to my left i have rowry lane so what's up how are you i feel great it were being serious i'm being very serious today we start with rest in piece of fiend of fiend chacore um... that's very important um unfortunately i can't expand expound on that today because today is important today my birthday all happy birthday time this goes out this it'll be my birthday it is it is for his birthday tomorrow my one happy excited yay i'm a little excited michael roar 26 years old and yet you still find a way to be twelve in your head twenty six at midnight wonder what's next for me hey segue that's it no so let's say you don't work on that views views views views has consumed my life since its release everywhere that i go every person that i see no matter the age no no matter where drinks rinsens hip-hop so in small talk it was barbershop talk everywhere when he put some of you stop what you're doing right absolutely yeah and the line everywhere was so what did you think of you of course literally between i was trolling women all weekend saying that Drake got Beyonce the fuck out of here yeah in one day yeah cuz there wasn't any more lemonade this it was views did you hear it did you hear it more so i felt like like lemonade is a women conversation you heard or meant to a woman i would you think a lemonade but this is universally like every but well now let me just let me just add my perspective to that uh... yeah we all stop talking about lemonade started talking about uh... views one but Beyonce's job was done uh... absolutely all i don't know if we're not talking about that album yeah we're going to be talking about you know that's yeah absolutely how yeah it was a troll i don't want to be clear beehive yeah i was i just mean i just mean generically i don't know yeah i don't mean like this specific with you know i'm saying that it's like so i want to know who thinks what people now that people that listen to this podcast enough and people who i don't talk music with everybody so to be some people online know i'm i never ever ever given opinion on music right away that's just not how i choose to interpret and receive and process and digest music because maybe because i'm an artist myself i just i put more stock into what artists are going through when they create their project these people are putting their mind heart and soul a lot of times a lot is at stake a lot of times family relationships falter a lot of times you know we have to self-medicate artist go through a lot to create i never ever want to just judge just the music i like to know where people are some artists you'll never be able to tell some artists you can sometimes that their that's their whole thing is an artist is knowing exactly where they are at the time yeah drink for me you can you can't well at some point you can so now let me start with me i know everybody won't get to hear this whole thing because we live in its microwave society where people don't want really want to hear all that shit so let me get to my end point because i'm gonna rent and i'm gonna say a lot my end point here is i love drink if you don't know if this is your first time hearing me speak about drink let me inform you i am one of the biggest drink fans that there is he knows this about me as well i go way back i'm well documented i don't need to get into all of that so let's start what's Drake's classic album i don't think he has one but his best one would be take care of my opinion okay so this is how i got there i think and i have always thought that drink is special yes the other people that i think are special all of them have a classic right that got me to think and i even asked you and your friend now keep up with me because my memory is bad but my brain goes in overdrive and sometimes i can't remember what i was saying i even told you in your are you and can i think that was right outside the hotel yeah i said i said hey why isn't take care of classic and you both have very respectable answers uh... it wasn't timeless uh... it wasn't seamless it was almost it was very very very close very close hey i agree that album is take care done bad i'm talking about his part it's take care it's not taking care that album is not taking care and as a drink fan somebody who thinks that his responsibility to music is greater i think that what i heard was a man that was so far going from himself i'm not looking at now i'm looking at where this is going and where it's headed and to see where it's going we have to look behind us and when i look behind me i'm scared to death at where it's headed because where it's headed they're going to finish the job that napster started they're going to finish that job and it's not going to be enough income for all the niggas running around getting bread i'm glad y'all think that don't apply to y'all that move around in this industry but it does you don't see very many rappers rappers getting what they got to do walkthroughs and shit no why because much like napster when all of these escorts and holes came and started taking two hundred dollars we really need the rappers no more and that's a really bad really bad example but the same point is the same impact i was the first person on this podcast to say that streaming this looks very scary what's about to happen so i can't laugh with you i can't i feel that way everything that you're talking about drake right now did you say about jay at volume three i'm playing devil's advocate here i'm just put pointing out a point here and for everyone on twitter don't kill me i'm not comparing jay and drake i'm saying in their runs as artists did you put the same amount of pressure on jz on volume three this is where they are as far as albums go i'm saying the cohesive amount no they're there no that's not true well for one two three four albums volume three views well if you let me get to my point i wasn't i wasn't this age i wasn't this age i wasn't at this age now this age is when i'm starting to see things a bit differently so i wasn't concerned at that age i'm much like you was just concerned with the music and as i got older my beef with whole was damn he's the only one that they probably like enough to let get no no no no i'm not talking no no he's the only one they probably like enough to let get a seat at the table and that'd be real big as like a black rapper the best of course of course that'd be huge and he got any and then he got there and i'm you know be careful what you wish for i that's when our shit began but he got that seat and he's continued to hustle ever since i mean i was a drink is probably in that seat because they had gotten that seat in so on and so forth i'm just saying albums wise you count them in their disography we're at volume three and i don't think fucking jay got this heat we're not gonna we're not gonna i get it we not let's get off of this yeah but i'm oh shit wait we got hold up because i want to be clear it was fucking talking about it be clean New York oh god oh was that good it is real good that was good right no no i'm not talking about the juice i met my original i think that Drake's ceiling is even greater than he sees it that's my end point i think that Drake as a kid from Toronto who at one time was looked at as a real wack-ass nigga i think he prides himself in making Toronto as big as can be i think you have succeeded in that mission Drake i think your business is exactly where your brand warrants it be your team of people is amazing i think you are the only one suffering this is only my take i don't want anybody to listen to my opinion and change your opinion i hate when people do that i'm not doing this for outer sensationalism or because i have a project coming no i do this this is why i'm doing this my son being in my life has changed my perspective a bit i think the adults probably need to be the adults now so sometimes we need to listen to our criticisms i need to listen to mine all that fucking around shit i was doing on twitter now i need to separate myself because the kids need the adults now the kids now my kid right who i've been out of his life for 10 years music is our connection him and i i'm seeing the influence that music has on my child not only on my child but all of his friends my kid is 14 freshman in high school all his friends i think music has an influence on children that a lot of times even the parents don't know if they don't tell us right and a lot of times they don't i didn't tell my mom when i started doing a whole lot of shit i know i'm getting off topic i'm talking about for me for me Drake is fighting a bigger fight than Toronto he's no longer just he no longer only belongs to Toronto he he's fighting for a lot more of us than just Toronto if you ask me my opinion i think Drake can be the fastest to a billionaire ever yeah he just made um he finally just made Forbes uh wealthiest and hip-hop just the month this year he knocked out 50 cent fuck Forbes and speaking of 50 cent and i'll get into this later vital mistake Drake made ignoring 50 cent this is what i mean to know what's coming you got to look before you 50 built his empire off of people thinking he is stupid right can we agree explain that because i don't you don't think all right when 50 was when 50 put out how to rob oh we're going that far okay okay now i see i'm sorry i thought you were saying when 50 was really introduced to the world not to us he was perceived as the executive thought this was some stupid dumb nigger from queens just some thug he was black bold they want to get killed over the shit so oh man did 50 out think the mall he made it he made his empire off of people that's in the 48 laws of power this ain't me talking that's i mean if you don't believe it so that's what he did right now Drake uh Drake i think that meek Drake thing is important here to look at what's the j-line on light it up? Drake here's how they gonna commit you with silly rap feuds trying to distract you put me on record here no offense i don't want to disrespect anybody meek is an idiot meek is not the brightest bulb that's just what it is that's my opinion he's not i dropped out in the 10th grade listening to him speak he's just not of a higher level of thought right he is a pawn i believe this is only my belief that he was sent absolutely he was sent to distract that man Drake right that this is my belief well i think i think it was addressed on the 30 for 30 freestyle me you and i were the only two people at first that said 30 for 30 freestyle is not about meek that is about jz yes worry see that's why i'm so invested here because i have been obsessively watching Drake before his career started i have to Drake call Kendrick those three move the needle those the those three transcend the music those are the three people that my grandparents my parents and my child would ask me about together that's a unique set there's some other people that are making their way to that group but those are the three so i have to watch those three obsessively and they all stand for a cause a very important cause we need these three Kendrick's cause we can see it we don't have to question it and we don't have to question what his agenda is of course at all this is a case of be careful what you wish for because i was the first person to say that i didn't really enjoy Kendrick's last album but it was a masterpiece and he took a risk with that it was a masterpiece i said that when it came out so here we get Drake's album which i enjoy i like it i don't want that to get lost in what i'm saying i really really like Drake's album but nope not enough i have too much invested in him Drake Cole Kendrick some of us oh elder states men in rap rely on y'all we are depending on y'all the fight that we started last decade is the baton is in your hand so let me talk to the people about who i am am i still being concise in my points yes let me tell the people who i am and who a lot of musicians are at in the height of my career my success when kevin louse and lee or co and we're trying to make me be someone i did not want to be when i couldn't walk nowhere without a million people following me i hated it that's who i am i think today we need to change the narrative of who i am to y'all because some of the people that know me know where my spirit lie Drake know himself he i think he has a good idea of who i am at my core not a bitter bit of blood run through my veins everybody's not built to deal with stardom that way i am not self-awareness is important that was uncomfortable for me Marshall i've spoken with him because all the shit i'm getting i'm getting from other geniuses too this ain't just me talking i'm just a vessel Marshall in confidence told me he'd love to go pump gas one day guess what i fucking believe him i believe him i think niggas that have been afforded the universe crave for those small moments that seem like nothing to the average person can we play this lighted up verse Rory please because i believe to see what's about to happen we need to see what came before and no disrespect to me but Drake where you sit is very important understand your opponent this time is not me oh back to that 50-cent point before you play this my point with that was didn't Drake show the world exactly how meticulous he was during that beef absolutely 1000 a lot of people that didn't know some of us knew some of us that watched knew a lot of people that didn't know found out how slick that boy can be right when he is when he asserts himself right i think that that was vital information to whoever it is that is against him in his mission i think whoever it is against him i won't name names i think whoever that person is i think they would like to know how meticulous Drake can be because i think whoever that person is is an adult and they are far more meticulous than your brain is now not later your fight is greater than that i think Drake can be iTunes that's what i think i think Drake i've seen Drake create a genre of music Drake the weekend party division uh Madrid Jordan he could have really busted his ass if you want to go get Bryson Tiller Drake has the influence to be iTunes if i'm thinking bigger which my therapist told me to do so i apply it to everything now i think Drake did we play this clip no we didn't play it oh of uh Joe buns tv or light love the Joe buns tv now we didn't play we didn't play nothing now let's play that play that let's play that truthy list of so far gone yeah it's done you've taken over New York City yep and just that you didn't just catch me out here until i came to support Joe miss i just spent a rank of anybody watching and i appreciate it yeah i can't remember thank you very much now yeah you asked me how to hear who's feeling yep i didn't i need to ask you how you feel i feel uh i feel humble man nothing inside listen don't don't know this ever been riffin don't pull it a cool don't give it to you that now what year is this 2009 it says on youtube i feel happy i'm honored april 2009 which means really 2008 i mean fresh in the fresh in the 2009 right so far gone was picking up a lot of fun that's what i want right there right there that part is very key y'all please listen to me hey pause it pause it pause it please hey again i'm only giving you my thoughts on my podcast i'm only speaking to the people who understand and are watching at a certain algorithm i'm speaking to the people who are able to look deeper everybody brain ain't that fucking developed play this shit right here right fucking there that's my point Drake is still a i go back to when every Drake video was bad i go back to when Drake dressed like a piece of shit i go back to when the flow was still a little choppy and he still really didn't know where to insert those melodies but you could tell it was coming i'm one of those Drake fans i'm qualified to speak here in this arena Drake now i remember i come from when he was on all the memes the bad way that nigga so ill this is only my opinion i think every time he's on a meme it's him doing it on purpose i think that's planned i think all the hotline video i think the last album cover head in the clouds i think this album cover i think all of that shit is planned by him and his team his team is amazing well i don't know if you know those memes in the sad clown intro shit that people did on twitter was before take care and then take care came and he went full fledged sad he just bought into it right away yeah and it's so crazy that's how so that was a very calculated move in that sense he even said that about how he literally said about hotline bling he knew it was going to be made into memes and gifts he knew that oh the dance and shit was one thousand percent to go viral he did that he did that on purpose that part is apparent but i'm saying it goes back to before take care before he was of course he was very emotional on so far gone and thank me later but he bought into that one thousand percent and put out take care which was the saddest fucking project ever and we all ate that shit up play from there oh wait because my point with this right here i want to stay on my points because i have a lot of them my point with this is i believe him when he says that he he he could never have never imagined this is after so far gone you don't think that this kid feels like he's at the top of the world right now nigga no no no too much is dependent on you for me anyway i love it too much and after streaming there's nothing left there's nothing next y'all i got to talk to Drake co and Kendrick and hold him accountable because back when we had motherfucking uh ATRACS after ATRACS 4545 records record seat tapes tapes to CDs i never knew what was coming next we know what's coming next and we wasn't getting paid before as artists if nobody want to talk about it let's keep it above it's time to change the narrative it's time to recondition how we think it's only but so many artists that are making a great enough living to afford themselves the lifestyle in which they portray does it take me to say that to y'all no right certainly not now i'm not getting my information from somewhere that y'all can't pull from i'm just judging him or more than the music play from play from here i think you can have more great i think you are like the fucking golden child i think you are so much greater than me so much guess what though you couldn't be greater without me there's a whole line of emcees from last decade that laid their blood sweat and tears for the ground that y'all can walk today last decade they told me i had to act a certain way and dress a certain way and record a certain way i told him nigga suck my dick fuck your record label nigga as an emotional 22 year old who applauded when hoav came in def jam because he was breaking barriers we want a black successful rapper at that jewish table that's what i'm saying a drink right now there's a whole nother table you think hoav has stopped somebody answer me you think hoav is at his final table hustler hoav huh we know who he is right hustler hoav you think he's chilling or you think he sees something coming no i think he's planning he's planning ridiculous in the moves he's making right now break let's look at this point look at this point and this is conspiracy theorist joe this is where i get a little weird look at this point though back to drake can be items drake i believe energy drake has a different type of energy his energy has attracted the likes of Beyonce repeatedly his energy has Rihanna on his dick for a long time right his energy caused some type of energy between him and chris brown someone who i think a wildestard is one of the most talented people in the world he just has an energy with the other mega stars in the world jay don't have that fucking energy jay is a hustler i'm not giving you my opinion i'm telling y'all i'm telling yes i'm telling y'all what the what we know about these people jay has hustled his way to his empire see how we live it is how we get it drake at the plaintiff's platers because he goes further play this let's see your first disc coming uh hopefully like back to school times like you know early fall all right no you think i said disc disc or disc yeah when do you i don't like this mean i'm gonna fly nice guy now somebody's gonna send a shot i'm not like you man i'm a no no i'm a nice guy i'm a nice guy i'm nice but you're just too witty for you i mean people will lose a nigga i mean people will lose a sensitive nigga i don't see it and it's my job as a rapper to let niggas know today yeah if i get this it's going to be it's going to be a female trying to get out of that man some irony there with the behavior i don't know what you're having out why listen to him look at him all right so i try to get this nigga to say who he's got this oh somebody is going i'm not gonna diss this me and that we heard the line that was a line somebody's gonna say some shit yeah and you want to feel some type of way and they're ever scared man everybody that you know they try to keep you know i'll say one thing they keep trying to create a problem to know yeah me and fighting i love that guy man i listen to his music i think he's great i think he's talented i want to have a problem with you know this this see this new generation stop that we don't care about what he's saying from this we don't care about what he's saying from there i just want to show his mindset it's women if somebody diss me it's going to be women and now i'm i nigga i'm so good somebody diss me i'm cool no that was then people developed see because some people gonna say to me joe people are supposed to change no we're supposed to evolve and improve on ourselves we're not supposed to lose who we are right play light it up please because all of this is foresight me talking to drink having that conversation ain't nothing before sight [Music] triple entendre don't even ask me how connect to to a high power stop stop stop stop no no no no you won't fool me that way because hove is too much of a genius so let me see this computer oh that was smart your buddy yeah i was turning what you do with you yeah i fucked up where it was he's got the fucking lyrics on the screen i know i know i'm already all right come on where i try to take this oh here we go [Music] we're the right we're ryan hove i'm sorry we're ryan hove i'm sorry [Music] [Music] and this ain't no Illuminati shit but like i believe in energy two and as of late i've been into numerology i looked up hove i looked up my fucking drink too right but i believe that hove is in the energy as well i'm just throwing pain in the wall keep playing [Music] [Music] none of these manners we don't care about this [Music] oh that's listening no no i just run it down i don't do too much let's listen now [Music] let's keep listening y'all [Music] let's keep listening [Music] he has he's talking to you that's you too he's still talking to you and he's still now of course of course i'm fucking around i don't know he was talking about [Music] no no no no no no no no no but i do believe in energy and i do believe that hove has seen it all and done it all i do believe that so this song to me someone who's looking deeper is a clear indication that right here hove uh Drake's mind is on the women hove's mind is on the bigger picture and my point is hove is not me he's very meticulous let's get the views he sounds so uninspired on views let me tell you here's my other conspiracy theory about views track one you can't fool me baby no no no no no no no no no no i Drake i thank you too much of a genius for me to think that you talking about a bitch's perspective on track number one i don't believe it i think the track number one is a stream of consciousness i think the track number one is your way of sending shots to the public like a bad cry for helping the air nigger you talking about yourself i don't think you have a confidant that you can fucking confide in to talk about these feelings and just when i thought i was wrong you said that to me as you close the album out thoughts too deep to share with a therapist nigger i could have this conversation as if you was in front of me and you've been in front of me so you know that this is love me and you played truth the truth i left that truth truth truth it's a game i played to gauge people's brains you're real good at it i left that truth for truth game saying that boy is different it confirmed me thinking you was the golden child but it told you i was different at two your brain is different so i think it was a stream of consciousness on track number one right track number two might be the worst follow-up to track number one i've ever heard on any Drake project and i love that song okay that song is indicative of my point Drake who has been on my list of a nigga who has not had an undeniably whack verse in years i didn't even give him one until my way with fettie that was my first time giving him a whack verse yukit it's not by coincidence that there's a string of records now with horrible lyrics i turned the six upside down it's a nine now yeah so no no no no i'm not i'm not defending i'm not defending that that ball okay um i'd rather just go the overall picture here of this album and not go track by track and bring the bar by bar we're not so let me close so let me close with the beginning and end because this will get us on a tangent that's my i that's my thought on track number one track the last track views it ends the way every Drake album normally ends as far as the braggadocious triumphant background music it ends all of his projects in that way this time it was different i couldn't feel it i didn't believe it what i was getting from the words was different now on so far gone which is his classic on so far gone he didn't have none of that shit he was talking about but god damn it i believed him now he has everything in the universe i didn't believe his voice his tone in the words he was saying and i thought that his meticulous ass was closing that album trying to tell us something different so i want to define introspection right now because he is the air quotes king of introspection and i define words even when i know what they mean just because the context of the english language is lost today anytime you ask somebody what a word mean first thing out they mouth is well to me it mean no bitch i want to know what it mean intro speck shunt observation or examination of one's own mental and emotional state mental processes the act of looking within oneself now since take care to now can anybody tell me that drink has done that no but we could tell you where Courtney works who does on peace tree i give drink more credit than that is what i am saying and if there's one place i'm qualified to speak it's on introspection so now i'm on my podcast right now give me two seconds i'll click right back baby all right it's on introspection that i can speak about and when i met Drake you know what i'm gonna i'm gonna rap here but can i tell a story can i just tell a Drake story i just want to give back story always good to hear i call Drake i want to give back story to that youtube clip i called Drake um when he was leading up to so far gone being released before he put it out and i said to him you are the one you are the one stay this way stay it's you like i had that talk with him and then i said i would love to work with you he said i'm in Toronto now but i'll fly up and we'll get something done i said cool wait self-awareness is important i want to tell the people out there just so y'all know who i am i asked Drake Kendrick and Cole for verses early before anybody knew who they was they couldn't ever do it because their superstar them got too big nobody's happier about that than me no but i'm not one of them i'm not one of them hating niggas i'm from a different time so anyway Drake never came to do that verse but he did come up one day for that party that we was at when we filmed that he came up for that and i said yo we gonna get that verse done he said no i have to go and do this whole call me to the studio to do what's the joint this was the wax off that yes off that shit yeah that wasn't you know what a hove didn't let him get a verse because he might wash it when i heard that song i was disappointed i was sad because i was like damn and then i had they were mad tims afterwards yeah i was so worried mighty i had so much fire planned for Drake and i that day because we were so much more alike than we were different as far as i'm not talking about a success level see people gonna speak for where i have failed but that's fine i want yesterday i want tomorrow to be better than yesterday nobody's happier than me that the warriors have broken the bull's record no why because none of us thought we could ever see it it was impossible that's all i'm saying i need Drake to fight the impossible fight the one i failed at because i was too emotional the one a lot of us failed at because we wasn't talented enough the one's a lot of us failed at because the people wouldn't listen we had the same point but the game and the time was different now is the time and the climate is now for that fight to be fought okay with that said did he not do that on views is that what you're getting at views tells me something is wrong okay so you're saying he's not hungry anymore no no oh so that was my story and since city one night when i was in since city Drake calls me while i'm in since city where are we now what was this five a.m. five p.m in new york this is something not five p.m in new york what was before that one after that was that one that was the one what year did that come out 2011 he called me i was in since city had to be 2011 because i've been stopped going to since city yeah he called me and he asked me some shit that'll remain between him and i and when he finished i said Drake that shit that you just did was amazing how for me i i was trying to get inside information if you want me to be honest if i'm being totally transparent i was trying to see how someone who had it all still was that inspired to rap like that to emcees i'm telling y'all out there that just judge music the emcees for a long for a long period of time was looking at Drake like an immortal that's how he looked i still think he's that maybe i'm wrong and holding on to fall shit i still think that boy is the one that will change the way music is received in 50 years i'm open to being wrong i am i am i know i sound a little nuts to some people but what was i saying right before that because i want to finish that point and then we can end it oh my story so he said yo if you want to be honest i'm still hungry and he might as well have stabbed me in the heart as an emcee because i couldn't understand it i lost my way in this game i wanted to leave as soon as i found out what it was i'm too much of an introvert so for him to say that it was like god telling me it was a stronger version uh in front a nigga that i a nigga was going to get it done that Drake is no longer is what i'm saying okay well i totally get exactly what you're saying in the sense that he is not hungry as an emcee which may have been apparent on views i don't think it's because he's had it all too i don't think it's because he's done it all i think he's uninspired i i think it's different i think he felt like it was he's just gotten to a point where he's too polished to take a risk is is his hunger is his hunger in a new area now that's where i'm looking is what i'm my point here is he's developed a lot everything that has come up to this point has shown me that views did not surprise me at all everything that was on that album i thought was gonna be on that album because if you've looked since his last fucking take care was the last time we thought he was really rapping you think would you for me that's i know yeah yeah and everything has told me that he's going in this direction and as calculated as you just say that he is and how hungry he was at that point who's to say that this is now his direction or his view no pun i think he's easily a hunger could be there let me reply to that let me reply to that i'm one of the people that ran to download everything Drake ever put out ever without hearing it i didn't need to know i'm the person that ran the slaughter house in two thousand seven eight i think eight eight two thousand eight and said yo listen to this kid they thought i was nuts right i like risk drink and i don't i think he's at a place where it's no longer a risk that's what i'm saying when he put out uh hold on we're going home loved it any record he's done like that loved it i don't care whether he wrote it or not the the r&b music i love all of that i love the dance whole shit on this album so not to interrupt you but but right there just hold on we're going home i think we've talked on the podcast i think it's quote was i want to make a wedding song i want to make something that transcends my regular what a genius right yeah okay so he's he's seeing that he wants to go in that direction he does the trap shit because that's popular within the urban market let me keep my fans here and that's because i'm clearly trying to go in a different direction with my pop music but i'm trying to gather everyone i saw views as the my beautiful dark twisted fantasy let me appease every fan that i've gathered on the way here that's how i saw this album which is why i wasn't shocked and while i do understand your energy now is within passion mine is in his understanding i have logic and understanding as well behind mine and i don't think i don't think he's making this album for you for the rap fan i think he's making this for some global shit if you look at why why are you boxing me as a rap fan don't do that no i'm saying what you're expecting from him i get i don't know what you're saying i know you like more than that that's not responding to me i i i don't think he's making it for the the day one rap fans he's making this for some global shit like he's look at the single now he's got a way y'all y'all i have to interrupt y'all wait or you i'm okay i'm not ever saying it i'm not that's not i'm not addressing what you saying i agree i think Drake is trying to be the best artist in the world i agree so why is that how is that uh counter counter to what i'm saying no but i we're not saying that you're wrong we're just saying the point of view we're looking at the understanding and his mind frame in doing these moves because you're saying that he has lost hunger he's not inspired i'm just saying his inspiration maybe in another place now that's all we're that other place tell me bigger yeah pop me stop repeat what you just said two more times repeat exactly what you just said bigger into pop music that sound like more reason to be more motivated and inspired than ever i'm looking at what his music has done that as far as he did hotline bling work was fucking the number one record which which by the way that's not his record no no no no that's his record that came from his camp that's his record i know Rhianna made it Rhianna but i'm saying hotline bling and and one dance are his two highest charted singles everything he's doing now says my hunger is in pop music and everything this is what is a little frustrating Drake is going to sell more records than ever okay well i'm not talking about his success and i'm not talking about how amazing i love those records we don't know we're not agreeing with you at all we're agreeing we're saying where the he could be hungry just not for the change in lyricism and the and the the more being more introspective and showing growth in that way worry Marissa what i'm talking about is who i think and who i know Drake to be at his core i think that's i'm talking about who he is he's such he's not a one trick pony so he makes all these amazing records yeah but him uh him inside i keep saying i miss the drink that pushes the agenda not let the agenda push him he who he is inside is what created all of this now what is has created all of this is now but it's it's eating at him and i'm talking about artists see sometimes we ignore artists because they artists but we keep seeing them die there's a reason for it there's a reason that artists are popping pills there's a reason for all of that stuff artists be going through shit you think Drake don't feel that's not be stupid he hasn't told us anything about any of that that's point number one point number two to your point Rory this is what makes me look at him a little funny every chance he get he diss niggas who don't sell no records yet he seemed to me like he feels like he needs future for something i think that's to hold on to the fan base that is the urban with the pop trap music while he does the pop shit yeah because if he doesn't do if he doesn't do the uh future shit and knows he's going in the hotline bling one dance lane he's losing a lot of fucking people and he's at such a point now that he can't please everybody he's gathering every aspect of our genre great then stop dissing the niggas you holding on to it's rap he's just talking shit yeah but to us deeper minds i want to believe you and when you dissing the niggas that you grabbing onto for dear life it makes it hard for me to believe that's number one number two that proved my point two because my only point here is i think Drake is greater than even Drake knows for himself i don't ever feel like and i look and future's amazing Drake is different than us he's different he is i i make it akin to power to the people that think i'm hating to me it's equivalent to power when ghost who's the man got a little too arrogant and lost himself and in that white nigger took his club from him and then told him like i'm telling Drake the nigger i know would have never lost that club the nigger i know can make this album that he put out without a mouth rappers know that you can't fool a real nigger is what i'm saying it's time we recondition the masses that's not okay we need the niggas that are great to be great because the kids today are gonna have kids tomorrow that's what i'm saying y'all can i raise a point not an opinion and i think i'm done with my points what you would say everyone would agree that Drake is a relatable artist and has been relatable his entire career and that is what's drawn people to him no you don't think Drake is relatable i don't as a regular human being that walks that feels shit yeah dude but the girl don't overthink this i have an answer you have let me answer it i know what i don't oh my answer was no yeah i think half of his career has been that way doesn't sound so there's a certain point i feel like it stopped so hey well they don't hear Drake and cold no more we they don't need each other they don't they don't need each other they're in two separate lanes doing just fine did they need each other when they did show that point but remind me to come back to my point i didn't do it now so with Drake has been very relatable and i think that's why people have grasped towards him right off rip because he's very vulnerable and shows himself and people relate to that now he is not a relatable person and i think Drake has given us his life to a certain extent on record wait why is he not a relatable person now now it's it could be very a lot more difficult oh yeah relatable so on views going into the studio this is all i have no ideas just speculation making a point going into views knowing his whole career has been based on people connecting to exactly what he has to say he doesn't have anything to say to the average person walking in that studio and that and that and that and that and that right there young people is the point that i want to drive home because the hip-hop that i fell in love with was old hip-hop of course but it was hip-hop with a message rappers and emcees and i can speak on emcees because i'm an emcee so i'm not speaking to drink the artist because i'll never be that artist he's too amazing none of us a lot of us won't be but the emcees reported from around the world Drake the emcee we fell in love with he told us about where he was from his point of view he told us about let me tell you something this is why can't this be a point everything that you love about him and who he is in the passion he has in his music what you're saying you you felt lacked in views because you didn't feel it no no that is a reflection of where he's at right now and Rory my counter to that is i disagree i think he is fighting a huge fight behind the scenes but he has to tippy toe he can't he can't tell us that's similar to what he might be and i would say he can't tell us i'm saying when he digs deeper and finds another way to get over that hump that many of us failed at because we weren't equipped and and when he does that he'll be able to mass produce himself this way and it never lack feeling or merit i think Drake has a lot to talk about i think that that very meticulous man keeps hinting at something he just won't tell us because he keeps talking about holes and while i get it while i get it that may be who that part of who he is too loving to fuck all the big booty bitches and really having you know that maybe who he is too but once he gets past it i got caught up too i'm not exempt we humans my nigga i lost myself that was about to be my point i lost myself yeah he's the golden child but he's also the biggest rapper in the world right now that has everyone saying if you don't drop a classic your wack which is why all the pressure which is why the adults need to be the adults i can't sit home and look at my kid look at hip-hop and tell me about all the fuck shit his friends is doing right and feel like i'm out the game because i'm not playing the game but that's not true because i'm reaching niggas that's playing the game uh uh no no i can't i believe in energy these are my beliefs so while the world can say joe button has no right to speak on drake because he's never done it no i've never done it because i wouldn't do it i need a more we need a more equipped version and since that man has told me out his mouth how much i have inspired and influenced him at some point in life because he's one of them geniuses where i'm sure many people have inspired him this is how energy works to me and inspired me because two pucks said two pucks said who i love we don't i don't have to change the world i just got to inspire the mind it does so inspired me inspires drake inspired drake uninspired me an uninspired drake in turn inspires an uninspired me which will inspire him that's how i feel me only me i need drake to be the greatest drake drake to be greater than he even knows he can because his plight is for our lineage we won't be here music will that's why i'm this invested i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry it's too big it's too big it's too important to me for me to allow y'all not this time for me to allow y'all to diss the messenger and ignore the message i'm way too invested in music i've said too much that if you take music off this planet you have to take me with it if i believe what i believe i have to be this way Rory yeah and i hear that and back to the point of your thinking and pet your energy is in the passion of what's going on mine is in the understanding right so what do you so what don't you understand no no no the understanding of why this at nine i know i understand exactly what you're saying i'm saying why drake put out views and why it sounds the way it sounds did you think that was cohesive views i think 40 was the star um it could have been more cohesive but i think the production was phenomenal but i think with to run back to the point of grabbing all these audiences in doing that with these pop records and not the introspective drake that we love he has to grab them to do this bigger mission that you're speaking about because he has to get the masses here my point here Beyonce could not make lemonade without four she needed to get everyone on board with her to put out this story lemonade would have fell fucking flat if she was just some r&b singer see wow so drake needs this mission he could be on the same thing see Rory this could be way more calculated before y'all before y'all say that um i i'm not going to pull it up of course but on this very podcast because we've been documenting this for a long time for a year oh yeah we all sat here and agreed that drake was already at that position and this was the album right we said it here we all said it i'm not saying this in lieu of him having an album that maybe i didn't think was his greatest work i've been obsessively watching this for a year on this podcast you hear me y'all have been with me we've said this is the one right but he has a ceiling that i'm not saying that oh well hey this wasn't the one so fuck drink never will i ever ever ever ever be that foolish that man knows where i stand with him but i know we've said that a thousand times but now in retrospect i don't know if that's very fair right and i think i know we keep using hove as an example just because he's this generation's closest thing to hove and we gotta stop that not his music but how people love him yes business the boys push the agenda don't overthink that i'm just saying but just like you said drake doesn't even know his ceiling like he could be bigger than what he already is he's already you know you said this could have been the album but there could be another album past that that could do even more than that of course not if he stays like this if he don't think bigger than this that album will never come this is global that's what i'm saying it's not necessarily the rapping drake that we knew or the or the you're telling me about his i get that you're telling me about his popularity and i'm talking about where his popularity should be again because every artist's passion ours is an understanding exactly no no mind is just coming from having been in this fight i'm looking through a different lens i need the fans the same way 50 went to the radio a while back and just broke sound scan up there every fucking week and reconditioned how fans think no somebody got to change that we have to stop judging just the music the niggas that we love are killing themselves chris brown looks nuts i love chris brown he doesn't and i love his music and i think he's one of the most talented people in the world i'd be damned i just lost prince i'd be damned if something happened to drake because he feel like he don't have no one to talk to just go listen to the end of views don't uh don't i'm not telling no i agree with me nobody believe me nobody ride with me i'm just telling how show button feels on show button podcast listen to the end of views for a nigga with the world it just don't sound believable there's a feeling missing throughout the entire album i won't stand for it he's greater than that fuck that no i'm done so that's what it's funny this that reminded me of a bar on club paradise damn my biggest fear is losing it all remember how i used to feel at the start of it and now i'm living a motherfucking fairy tale and still trying to keep you a part of it back to what i was saying where people connected with drake so much and he is now not that person you can't tell me about an average relationship anymore so hence views lost feeling because he may not have the same feelings that i have as a fucking average 26-year-old person Rory i agree with you i think views i think views for him is all of loss for me albeit on the biggest scale in the world and mine's on the lowest i think views is an uninspired drake giving us giving the people what he thinks will work yeah on all of lost because i'm older i was uninspired and telling people i am dying i'm speaking about art and artists they all are weird for a reason i'm not judging just music yes i am an over analytical Virgo with OCD i know y'all think i just fuck bitches and tweet ignorant shit well you do that no longer no longer no longer you're trying to change the narrative i'm not because i love you i love you too though but i hold drake to too much i that i will end with that i want to hold this hostage no no i i totally understand what you're saying and i'm open to being wrong but i live with the result of being wrong and for all i'm telling my brother to do is be great be greater than i live with being wrong i mean if y'all gonna call me a hater for one somebody to be great but so be it but a lot rides on Kendrick co-drick joe button i'll name this podcast lady i want to close with something uh we should do sleeper songs i don't think we have a ox core but we should keep the tradition going who am i to fuck tradition up yeah i mean um but yeah in closing i totally i think we're all the same page as far as understand what you're saying yeah there was certainly a feeling that was not there in the drake album we can all agree with that however i totally understand it and while you may have a point with this uninspired thing my only other point that i can not prove because i do not know drake or anyone in his camp his focus and inspiration could be going in this direction purposely this may be what he wants to do yes that's right i am with air okay i'm still gonna watch obsessively and document for the people who are looking the way that i'm looking uh for the internet out there that is going to listen to this can you pull up a bunch of drake pictures and just photoshop joe creepily watching in the background so i can enjoy that and then tag us in the place fuck up i don't give a fuck about what you gotta say i'm trying to keep life skin niggas on top parks we don't have a ox core or anything do we whose phone is egg what do you have two phones because i got two phones one for the plug in one for the news no i don't know oh god um i'm not rolling hey mom all right well i'm gonna play i'm gonna play a sleeper song through my phone to the mic but it'll get the points on sunday asshole dick oh fuck tell your mother i said happy mother's day too tell her say hi miss fei hi miss fei mover simvory said hi my i'll call you in ten minutes right oh oh my new bay DM me back hello oh my god um all right so i'm just gonna play it towards the mic hopefully it works yeah that's fine i like it better like that anyway this is my sleeper song of the week i think it's appropriate this is drape closer to my dreams but it's gonna be like when you get closer to your dreams i didn't know much damn but i'll probably tell you a little something to have mr big dreams no tolerance cut you at the house and the holocents get bored quickly he stayed grown so the ph drone had to get bored quickly ex-girl stripper i can't stop a new girl tripping but i can't drop up because i need something a balance out the fact that it's hard to find a woman when you're talented and blast the funniest part about the uh come back season cover it's where drake looks by far the oldest right why he looked like a fucking 40-year-old single uh guy with a daughter that be creeping in the part drake closer to my dreams i'm gonna try to do this better than i tried before my sleeper song of the week is a sleeper mixtape of the week which was mike mike pollsters 2011 mixtape called the layover um i had a bunch of tracks on i'm gonna just probably play one but he had a lot of features big crits on and slim thugs on it be major casey veggies machine gun kelly saw high the prince a lot of good stuff on it um a lot of good make he did a cover of wonderwall which is really dope um but i think one of my favorites was this song called attitude attitude i can't even pronounce it but casey veggies and this is it but to be clear my hope my pick is the whole mixing my closer is way more talented than people give him first and we look alike make us hot again mike any real boyfriend for people this doesn't that doesn't sound good when y'all keep talking over it i just don't want to get pulled out so and there you have it that's brand new mike pozner or old mike pozner mike pozner or old mike pozers wjbmc 101.9 right here for commercial free but share one music all right mottie come on man damn trying to fucking pause me to give pozner man oh god damn it all right mine because i'm a real nasty good now i'm gonna go with where do we go oh man i'm supposed to be all right i'm gonna go by the gentleman i've gone i've picked one of his before rojames i like what this brother's doing out there i fuck with him i fuck with him in his music and his album comes out soon soon as in like two weeks soon uh you can go to itos now if you pre-order it there's a song on there called burn slow this was my first time here in rojames uh sing at a faster tempo and it gave me a little frank ocean in the beginning but after that oh yeah oh sure how you want to feel do you want to rob do you want to give it to you give it to you real honest yeah you and never had it like this before rolling my seeds while we rolling paper trying to get you hiding the scrapers cares about cares and favors you should call in sick you should call in favors i promise yeah you and never had it like this before no no so don't you lie don't you tell me that you gotta go to work baby because i can pay for the whole weekend babe i don't want to go to work but you and me you will be alone too hey there you have it WJBMC 101.9 that's brand new for my man rojames off that project coming into goodbye your power comes out next month so do you think this will go viral