The Joe Budden Podcast
I'll Name This Podcast Later Episode 60
The Drake conversation that no one will have. Sleeper Songs Of The Week: Mari: Ty Dolla $ign "Know Y I Came" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gj_uOmSvYA&sns=em Joe: Chris Brown "Kae" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddBf-APCXPY Rory: Lianne La Havas "Gone" | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwHtaCTEitE
Are we recording or good, right? All right? Super lit. What's lit? Did he just say that we record? We are recording sir. No, you gotta give me something But I'm not I didn't like to just start. I don't even like that start nah So these I thought it is for the summertime and those are nice Those are nice and henny polluze ish. I wouldn't wear but um All right, so you said we live right might check one two one two might check one two one two We are live. I am your host Joe button. This is I will name this podcast later Not to be confused with the sports fucktards that are attempting to steal the name of my unnamed podcast Don't think that you low in the streets. I'm aware. It's a name is some is that later The podcast to be named later. Yeah, it's a car dude. Hey podcast to be later these Um, I have my not-so-beautiful co-host Mottie more body. Thank you with me I have Tory lanes. I mean Rory lanes with me. I'm sorry not to be confused with King lanes. So now How is everyone? I'm cool. We're not gonna do this like last week. We're Marissa got to speak the whole fucking time I'm rather energetic this week and and and and uh Just when I'm just when I'm lost for content The universe comes through back at it again with the content. Yep. Yeah damn Get it again amazing content. Um, but we will not start. Um, there are you guys in great spirits. I'm in good spirits Okay, I took an Adderall today. I'm feeling great. Oh, lucky you lucky you um What are you gonna do later on Adderall? I took it earlier like earlier in the morning. Oh, okay Yeah, I don't big day work just to get through work. Oh Want to know that yeah? Yeah, that's like yeah, yeah Yeah, no, we had a shoot at an Airbnb For work and there's a cleaning fee. You know the Airbnb when I took that Adderall I said we can knock down this cleaning fee. I will clean this whole fucking apartment right now so The other night two nights ago one of the greatest college basketball games ever will start there word that was amazing Villanova versus North Carolina. I was totally Totally just glued to my television screen. There's really not too much to say about this other than it was fucking College who's on fleek it was telling you game on fleek. That's what it was. It was great. It's fucking great It left me speechless so much. I don't even know what to say. Oh, man. Look at Maude with the man Look at Marissa with the amazing sports report. That was amazing Marissa Shout out to Michael Oh, I got yes Let's get off About that I'm not gonna even you won't ruin my amazing move that's good. That's good that I am in What the fuck is on your finger? Compound for the callus on my hand on my finger They're such a hard worker the Asian day. Yeah, this comes from actually writing rhymes. I'm like the new whipper Snappers do today You just don't get in the booth. No, I don't I write things down now when I was in a nail salon The the girl told me to get some compound from CBS They have it so I've been using it and it's working it works at a big-ass cow finger finger finger bang and check with that on your finger Oh, come on. Not really big big finger banger dude. I don't know what was in you guys a cereal this morning But Rory even you won't ruin the phenomenal move there is he dikes on the train talking about finger banging each other and that is Why this is my bun Only that shit, but I don't want to hear shit I don't want to hear about your dykes on the train finger banging So let's get the gossip out the way so we can get to the real the real Meeting the potatoes of today. I'm finally gonna say it the drama today. I'm gonna say it today I'm gonna say what I've been maybe wanting to ask for quite some time today. I'm gonna say it. I'm never enough That's not starting here. That's starting here. Um, so let's come on. Give me all of the gossip bullshit that's happening in the world I'm Kardashian. I'm officially engaged. Wonderful. I guess brother-in-law uncles child. Yes God sister son Yes, whatever the fuck they are now Heigo will be his own son's uncle congratulations to the happy couple. Yeah, look how politically correct I am today Congratulations to black China and Rob Kardashian Yeah, and that's it. I'm just anxious to see who wins this little game that the two of you guys Like prime time just to me like this is like I'm saddened that this has become an integral part of my daily Entertainment. Yeah, I'm sad. I am but congrats Summer jam festival lineup was announced today. Oh, yeah, we talk about that. I wasn't mad at it Enjoy it. Can you name it off since you work there chance the rapper Tory Lane's currency designer post Malone Davy's Justine Sky Dougie F and Rotimmy I'm not mad at that list. Well, she'd who's on the main stage. It'll be announced Friday morning at 9 a.m Money bro in the morning on hot 90s. I'm or some young young Young teller don't do that again young teller with the headliner I'm thinking no definitely not No, that was a joke. I think teller teller will be on the main stage. I mean if he's free, of course Yeah, of course, I think future I think I could think that would behoove them. Yeah Word $10 word today. Yeah, it would behoove who hot 97 to put future on I don't think he's ever done a summer jam Well, his real peak last year would have been probably better than this year, but he still has that I feel like it's too early I don't want to hear about some of jam right now. It's not early. It's not too early. It's just 25 degrees outside Literally two months away. That's what it is. Is that what it is? Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's because it's winter outside That's what April 5th, and it was 25 fucking degrees. This announcement actually is late. Usually they announced it in March No, but I'm not one of the guys that wants to talk about summer jam right when they announced it like You gotta give me a little come on. Don't give me what the public cotter. No, we definitely did this last year Two months ahead of time. Yeah, the day was about summer jam with the day of So about the day after we spoke about the summer jam lineups. Yeah, there are no summer jam lineups There are they announced it every year in like a big deal. So what are the summer jam lineups today? I just told you it I thought that was the festival. I mean the main stage summer jam Yeah, I think Joe is suggesting he wants to talk about it when the main stage Yeah, that's that's my point when we spoke about this last year. It was announced They always announce it together. This was the first money. Don't come bring in your fucking high 97 ties to my pocket I'm curious about All right, so the an editor could stop being petty and making fun of Marissa what was the other petty story that came out? I Thought it was just the Kardashian circus. Yeah, I don't really see much other petty was there other petty things. Yeah Banks when at each other today Because Azili is retarded and she read a satire site that Was a satire interview with Sarah who was saying something about like blacks should accept slavery because they wanted it Or some dumb shit like that and so she went on a like tirade on Twitter azalea saying that she needs to be like gangbang by Big black men and get a dick in her mouth and all type of shit. It just sounds really nasty It was repug and just sound disgusting Sarah Palin wrote a paragraph on Facebook And she was saying they need to come together and use their platforms for the greater good But she's gonna first make sure that her daughter is not promoting like the anti women shit that Azili is spewing I definitely didn't care, but it's a fucking slow slow news. It really it's been a very slow news week to be honest Yes, I was going for CNN is Congratulating Rob Kardashian in black China on their Twitter. I knew where the world's going to shit Everything is going to shit And I'm not one of those guys because I like that microwave entertainment shit I'm into it. I talked to it talk about it whatever a fucking bio of CNN is we hit the hard Hitting news stories on Twitter and then they type black China in the same breath How is that okay? There's a presidential election while granted that might be a reality show as well in a circus it is That's nuts, and I don't don't tell me it's just a quick tweet Because there's a bigger picture here that CNN is doing that like their boss up or media takeout. I mean pop culture is Pretty is that pop culture. Yeah, like like Kim Kim and Kanye. I alright maybe it is pop Rob Kardashian who does absolutely nothing and a stripper that wasn't a shot at strippers and an ex stripper Yes, congratulate them for their marriage on CNN. Yep Happened so obviously it's something I like when you guys put on your adamant voices That was Rory's Adam. It was cuz I'm scared for the country. I'm terrified You were passionate about that He feels the type of way for it. I do well. That's scary to me I mean it's I was I'm I too. I'm scared of the country Because I'm watching for a different game and somehow I'll figure out how to segue this into my main topic of discussion today so Pardon me pardon self pardon self now. I think what I've been trying to get to it hit me like a brick last night I think on this podcast for quite some time is that streaming right is going to streaming will eventually do to television and music What uber is doing to taxi and what Airbnb is doing to hotels? The world is moving to a place Where more? Technology is going to take over the universe and more people will lose jobs We're seeing the signs of it now when I'm fucking talking to a robot to leave the supermarket now That's been the case for quite some time. Okay, right? So Bong let's start there now that led me to I In my in my old-school traditionalist maybe stubborn Way of thinking I don't really stream very much. I have over 80,000 songs in my laptop. I'd like I'd like to Pat myself on the back for knowing music somewhat right but the other day I streamed a song and then today I ended up streaming another song when Rory hit the group chat and said new Drake now Drake has earned himself the right for a lot of people to stop what they're doing when new Drake comes out I Stopped what I was doing. I didn't but I was blogging. So it actually went with what I was doing That was what I was doing Okay, so you both had to stop what you were doing moment kind of a jase. Well, I just what I actually bought it right away I wasn't gonna wait because I was on my phone and I was on the move So I just bolded on my phone both of them real quick and listen right there So I can't say I ran home and went on my laptop Shit, okay. I feel like ladies and gentlemen I can't start with my topic of discussion yet. I need to What's the terminology that I'm looking for here I Need to preface. I was just gonna fucking see that I need to preface with some things Now with that said, what do we need to preface with I guess I'm talking to adult people That's number one number two I Do not have a horse in this race or a dog in this fight or a dog in this fight I Have no opinion on this as of yet But I am gonna argue one. Okay, you are This is the Joe we know in love um three I Love Drake Okay, I am one record as I've said on this podcast before I'm one record with liking a lot of you niggas before other people like you I'm talking to a lot of you Right is man hipster. So I'm not I'm not banned wagon ish is what I'm saying. I am not sheep My opinion does not mean I waver one way or the other Nor am I sensitive nor do I do well with sensitive people. So if I am about to offend anyone Suck it my bad in advance. I Am still going to say what the fuck I have to say. I've needed to just present this theory I'm so intrigued for quite some time now theory This cannot be proven one way or the other but this is a podcast So that's what you do on podcast, especially ones that are hip-hop oriented in some way or another So with that said I don't know if I'm gonna ask it yet I'm gonna ask it. Okay, I'm gonna start. I'm gonna I'm gonna start here Hear me out Okay, I make very valid points Sometimes you two can choose to grab the other side of the debate or you can just add to conversation. Okay, okay Roy's putting his hat on. He's right. Have we seen Drake peak I Think the dead question has been floating around the universe For a little while Now let me give some people some information on who I am Because I know how you toddlers and whippersnappers and new niggas think today And because a lot of y'all don't know me you just know me from some fucking tweets or some shit that you've seen on your fucking TV When I was coming through the fucking screen like an idiot, right? Let me tell you the like wow that was pretty innovative at that time. I don't don't tell yourself short very early on in mine and Drake strip club careers um as professionals We've seen each other and I went up to him and I gave him dap and I saluted him because I think lights can niggas should stick together And salute each other when you see each other and he's been doing so much amazing great things for the light skin Delegation, I wouldn't be a real nigga if I didn't go up to him and salute him like a real nigga, right? So that's what I did, but early early on it's very early. Um, I said down. I say yeah You know man, you supposed to do a record and he said oh Let's do it and I said eh not saying now And he said why not and I said well cuz you're on everything Like you wanted it's almost like a single now It's like fucking superstar not quite what I had in mind when I first heard You so if we do it, I would like it to be the saddest record of all time what you and I truly Do and when I say that I mean what I first heard you do that I was so amazed at That's important for me to let y'all know who I am Me. Oh and let's preface this with some more shit. Um My point still stands through the jokes. So for argument sake I'm agreeing with all the jokes because people don't fucking hear what you have to say They just listen to who's saying it. So pump it up was whack I'm whack and I can't do better than any of the people we better talk about now all of that's true And my point still stands and I'm arguing it right now. So has oh and you you're 40 and I'm 40 Yeah, you're 40 with that said and you're a one-hit wonder and that I said that too. Oh, you can't really dress you beat women I said that and well, I didn't quite say that but okay That they say that soon sometimes, okay, and you all just like in the strip club Great. Hey, all of that stuff for argument sake is true now back to the argument. Have we seen Drake peak Are you gonna answer you want us to answer and then you're gonna go? I'd like us to discuss it. I don't want I want us to add and I mean answer and discuss answer and discuss That's what I would like us to do. Um, I think it's a bit too early and I say that to say Drake is very album based In my opinion, and I need to hear views before I say he has peaked if views is subpar Then you can make a good good solid argument that he has picked His last record was Drake is not let me just let me just correct you there Drake is not album based He's just great in every area. So you you anticipate a full Drake album Drake singles Drake mixtape like he's just great in so many places Body of work. He's not amigos like where we just really love his singles We love his albums and that's really why he has that big core of a fan base and why he is number one at the moment So I'm saying but you have to we need to judge him Off his whole body of work because we know he's capable of creating great body work If me goes put out a bad five bad signals, I'm gonna say all right They got you say that about me goes But you have some artists who we look forward to their body of work and their singles don't work That's the that's that's album based to me. So when you're great at both. You're just great. There's no need to specify Album base. I don't know if Drake is album based, but Okay, but you could be hit or miss with singles and Drake's full body of work is gonna show us where he's really I'm I'm talking as someone who is just passionate about music and who is a ultra mega fan of Drake J and Hove were you not afraid? I judge them. I judge them differently if those who is Jay if those that hoave Oh, you said Drake J. Oh, I'm sorry Drake. Yeah, I'm sorry Hove we'll get to that now all I'm saying is those three Men are phenomenal. I Don't think that should be argued. Nope if those are the three names that I'm hearing on a record That's not the record. I want to hear. Mm-hmm. I don't want to hear that. I Hate it. I hate everything about it. It's like a microwave blessings That's what it sounds like it's like hot pocket blessing It's like it's like fucking Wait, are you hating on young What was that wackass line Chaining to date on yes, I don't Chaining tatum chaining tatum now. No, I'm not chaining normally now normally Drake does this Drake does this where he puts out The one record for these idiots over here and in this record over here for so but now I Have which out of those two records was for the idiots This fucking hot pocket bullshit. Oh, that's for the idiots. All right, and then One dance is not yes, cuz I love one dance. That should be a good radio record one dance is not for the Well, typically as any done in the past We're gonna pop record and that'll do like some rap and shit for the rest of us and with the all-me shit We're like he does that a lot. Yeah, it's and I want to take back I want to take back idiots because I'm not trying to offend anybody and it is just how I talk a lot of you Don't know that so he does one for one and one for the other. I get that now. I also hate the same way I hate trapper Drake I'm outside of dance all Drake. I'm not this is what we disagree. I enjoy dance because we agree We both hate trapper Drake. Nah, what I'm gonna bad dance all records I'm a bitch and so this is like fun dancing none of them none of them. Roy. It's Drake and it's dance hall It's never gonna be a bad record. Mm-hmm. It's never gonna be a bad record. So why are we sick of it controller? controller, right like it Work work we'll put in there even though it's not his record. It's still a dope Well, I don't really carry that shit one one dance The case shit came out today one dance He's done some more dance haulish type of shit on thank me later. That should use it with Kanye This isn't new. I mean he's always had that influence just because people in Toronto There's so many West Indians in Toronto everyone is in for sure. I'm clear. I'm clear on that Hey, I don't want to I don't want to be misconstrued and what I'm saying This is my main point Drake came in and Dominated as a breath of fresh air Something so different. He was like a Hybrid he was a hybrid emcee. He was like a fucking a stretch five like Anthony Davis or some shit, right? If I just follow me where where I'm going here. I'm listening. So so that is how he came in right a Lot of people would say take care is his best album, right? I would say so and I think 99% of people would agree. Okay. Now. This is where the whisper started. What album came after that If you're reading this, it's no late. No way. No Yeah, nothing was the same. I'm sorry. I love that album. I do too. Some people say it came and went For a Drake standard. Yes. It did. Yes. It did this conversation is to be held at his standard Not mine or anyone else's his yeah No, really because I want to have a serious conversation about this. Yeah, um Fucking uh, so yeah, I love that album. Let me be clear But a lot of people say it came and went well. I'm came after that Now, it's the if you're reading this is too late Okay, nothing was the same. Mm-hmm. That was you and I were together. We when that came out We were coming from wherever we were coming from and we rushed home cuz you and I a big Drake fans. Mm-hmm It was it was on Valentine's day we played Amazing I have an amazing bowls entertainment system that that plays Audio just tremendously and very loud. I'm a musician. I need to hear loud music Ray and Rory went to the crib at my fucking 2 a.m. And put that shit on and I immediately said what? You didn't like it not for me Well, we even tried to give it that whole weekend when we was going out for all-star We played it the whole time cuz we thought maybe we missed something Well, yeah, first listen Now now I'm not saying that it's not joints on there I'm not saying that either because welcome this is Drake. We're on a Drake standard right now Drake is Gonna always have a joint. He's that's what he does It just wasn't for me. So I went on this whole bash and I hate fucking trapper Drake I fucking started hitting niggas and OVO, please and let me just here's like some rap Some like just some rap shit just something rap what came after that now timeout now in between I'm getting a drink on my way Yeah, hotline laying I'm getting high line blingers more current, but I want to just it's a lot of is a lot of records Somewhere in between if I really have to get deep into this and paint the chronological order of some events that occurred Um, well you the future wave kicked and he hopped on that Well, I mean if I go in in deep I start with the mumblings of a weekend Drake beef I'm going that far back Because I'm putting the peak if I'm taking that side of the argument. I'm putting the peak at take care And that was the album that the weekend was heavily involved in and all I know that happened after that is that the weekend left Mm-hmm And I know that the weekend is done rather fucking well since leaving Music wise very much since take care I think he has weekend has a better album than drink his put out since taker 1,000 percent I don't think that can be argued well what can be argued cuz it's I'm not but I don't want to have the conversation with stands I want to have this conversation with people who can objectively respond um So now okay after if you're reading this is too late after that came the future joint, right? Yeah not for me again not for me again and While I appreciated the two hottest rappers doing a joint because I'm with the unity in that whole thing And all of that some to some people wondered Why those two would be doing an album some people wondered Who did that make sense for? Future was already the hottest thing in the universe Drake is already Drake Granite. They were on the road together But they music don't even merge. I'm telling you what some people said Nobody heard this I Did okay, I was I just want to make sure I'm I'm gonna even I get it I'm gonna be objective the whole way through the best and the hottest at the time What's after this fucking future shit the future album? That's when hotline bling starts hitting that's when the Drake meek shit. Well, that's still in between that time When did what a time to be alive come out? She and the last year Because hotline blink came out last summer Yeah, but it didn't really it was actually a slower catch than it's given credit for What a time came out September 20th 2015 Okay, so that was the last project we've heard So now homeboy they leak these songs Right they leak the songs from views allegedly the ones last week two weeks ago. Yeah, okay with the pimp seeing ship Those aren't finished products, so I won't speak on them at all but these two today We're planned I think that if there were ever so this is my main point point number one if there were ever a time to say if Drake is the DH we need a hit I Don't mean hit as in hit record because he does that so I don't want anyone to misunderstand me in Baseball terminology the DH is the designated hitter or his only job is to hit So a lot of people would say and I'm seeing it more than I've ever seen it That he would need to really deliver on views. I Don't know what the or what is When you're at that level of success really waiting to wait don't respond yet because then I'm gonna forget my other point So that was point number one and what I'm also saying is number two I Just miss the Drake that started the waves Not carried the other ones Okay That's what I mean. I like controller and I like one dance but I You know I could tell I could if I had a nickel for every time Some random reggae nigger took a heart that hard dance hall beat and just started mumbling some shit that and I loved it Mm-hmm. I'd be a good billionaire But I'm saying that's what dance hall Yeah does to me I Hear that a lot in dance hall. So now if I'm taking the greatest fucking rapper Many say today because Drake today. I think is akin to Jay from my generation It is and if somebody wants to debate me there. I'm open for that one - I debated at The nothing was the same time that he was on a much quicker path than Jay was he was farther in his career at that time than Jay ever was But I mean, it's probably a different game. So different different different time different But at the time he was on a better path than Jay was at that point in his career I don't know what to say with his last album if he is still on that pace But I mean Jay ran into some row bumps Jay was not always Jay There was some doubt every volume one came out. It was doubt All right, I just want to see where you're going with it with this first I would say a volume one was similar to if you're reading this is too late I'm following you Just put out a classic which I'm not saying Drake has a classic but with reasonable doubt in the Rockefeller deal Jay was up next and then he put out some bullshit that sounded like old fucking bad boy biggie records after he died That wasn't his sound and people hate it He was going with what the sound was which wasn't him and that's what Drake did with that trap shit and Now we're all begging for views to sound like take care All right, I Don't want views to sound like take care of number one Well, I can't I think that Drake is talented enough to make his best album soon I Don't think he's made his best album if I'm just going off of his talent right That's one Damn it. I'll be having so many fucking points now. Fuck got my other fucking point. You got a phone right? Oh, oh - oh - we don't we don't have to ever disagree on that. I am the I I'm the one of the first people to say Drake follows in the whole footprint of wave stealing Oh, there's the best wave stealer of all times of all time if somebody would like to debate me on that I'm talking musically. I don't mean image-wise And of course that's not I don't disagree with you yet, but do you have points per album what wave He was taking at that time. I'm curious Well, we can talk to the whole tribe of people that say that he stole an entire flow from young Chris That's the only one I could think of right off the top of my head that was confirmed like he kind of took the whole flow H to the isle stoned away timeout timeout. Well, you're missing a few things then cuz H to the isle was snoop's campaign Okay, that whole slang and terminology and all of that shit was snoop um Our our Jay was I thought was in fucking uh CTE at one point No This is true. This is true fact what I'm saying Check the record. There was a time where you would have thought Jay and GZ were a group like oh five There was also a time where Jay and Ross. They was real tight too, and we got a lot of records From that wave. I see your hand. So shaky alcohol withdraws and I'll drink during the week And this is not and this is not please don't take this as me discrediting whole arguably the greatest But what I'm saying I think it's it's factual if you old enough to remember these things So Drake now many could argue the same thing. I'm not picking aside here, but many would say I Mean we've had many instances now with Drake Kanye, but he does it on a lower level. Well, it takes someone not as popular and still they hold shit the whole thing He'll still I would say yay would be up there. Yeah, but at least Kanye and fuck around and give you some credit Hi, the prince at least so at least he'll give you some credit for Designer or record deal or or I mean you get something out of the out of the jig Oh, yeah, Jay make you never exist again But I mean I want us to be honest and sometimes a Lot of people will think something and not say it you guys cannot cannot cannot cannot if you loved If you are a fan of Drake the way I have been Since before so far going I don't mean a stand just a fan who can think objectively You cannot defend the fucking chaining chaining Tatum Change young chaining Tatum You can't you can't now I also because I comprehend well I also get that I have to maybe open my brain up Because they're talking to an audience I've never had to speak to and a lot of people never really had to speak to that audience is wide so I do get that is the same as murder mace and Cam and May saying all right. I'ma go with puffing due to commercial shit You stay in the streets and do the hardcore shit so we feed both audiences will always have that outlet I do get that is kind of the same as fab Fabulous sport and fabulous. I do get that is too different You understand what I'm saying is too different this Drake audience There may be an audience and I'm sure there is because as soon as that other track was released I immediately started seeing Oh Drake wasn't playing his summer 16 That's a little damn I know I'm old And I know I know I know everything that you can think of I'm a over analytical burger I've already thought of it. I know I'm old I may just be out of touch and this shit could be the most fiery shit in the universe and I could just be the only one thinking differently But the same way that there's a big campaign about missing the old Kanye I Am starting to miss the old Drake and since none of you fucktards will say it and Drake already knows that I love him So I'm gonna just out there and be who I am Sometimes you niggas will take the garbage if you like the garbage man and This is what it is I mean you guys are very selective with who you take your trash from and now that's an Independent thought an independent conversation not to be associated or affiliated with my previous Drake comments I don't want to I'm compartmentalizing conversations context keep up with me I don't want you to go type in niggas and at niggas with some shit That ain't true and then I start got to start getting text where I got to start clarifying some shit That was there in plain English, please please keep up with me. My brain runs fast Can I make a point between The Drake and the J theory there or just Drake and what he has to deal with now Per his I don't even know if they'd survive in this era Jay comes up in a time. We're just gonna use Jay there because that's probably the closest thing we have to drink it right now He comes from a time where you Put an album out tour disappear put a single out put an album out tour disappear That's all you need to do if you're great We are now in a microwave era in the internet era where you need to feed people our fucking Brains need things every three seconds things pass right away even if they're great Drake has to cater to that era hence what is time to be alive hence putting out these records that he may not Think are that great, but it's enough to feed the streets in the meantime until he puts out something that he loves. I also Understand That when you mass produce mass produce that way Sometimes the product is going to suffer right and that's right. I understand that part of it as well I think that's a major part here and he's dubbed the mixtapes I think for that exact reason despite selling them despite profiting off of them He wants to be very clear that he's not taking his time to craft these things like he's taking with views Oh, I'm not saying you're wrong. I just didn't hear that part What did he call them nxtapes? No, that he wasn't taking time with the stuff that he's putting out and he's only focusing over you aren't these on views No, oh, I was talking about those last two projects I think he's gonna take off or make a bonus record out of that Styles I had I had an entire Conversation, pardon me. I had an entire conversation with Royce Right, I had a whole conversation with Royce when I was talking to him about my rage in the machine project with ARAB, right and Was that a I'll name this podcast later exclusive? Maybe I'm maybe not I've instagrammed it about it. I've just been being very cryptic until product is somewhere near done, but But in that conversation I was saying the voice I was saying, you know, I just been old Royce whose project comes out Soon to layers 15 layers is outright this no, not That's the name of the album - but I know but I want to talk about trust the shooter the trust the shooter EP is out right now And in the album layers is also out, but you'll hear my voice again on this podcast before that album comes out So I'll be sure to get back to that Yeah, so I'm talking to Royce and I said, yo, it feels great I just been going in the studio and just been writing shit down pretty much void of thought Because and he knows what I mean because as MC's we're overly critical of our own stuff lyricist especially So you over you overthink every fucking word So he was like, yeah, man What's happening is So much content is coming out constantly. It's faster than ever now on the internet. I Said well, yeah, which is what makes it really easy I don't know what just happened, but it's fine, which is what makes it really easy for you know low quality music is what's in And I'm not knocking that I like it, too I like low quality music as well, but let's call it spade a spade a lot of it is low quality Music I'm not talking about if you're judging from the 21-year-old brain high or fucking perks zannies mollies Mushrooms fucking K We loud quiet whatever the fuck you put in you I know some of that music sounds really amazing when that stuff is inside of you trust me I do but that's not the gauge that person's brain is not the gauge so low quality music is in Which means that some of the people who can turn over that music rather quickly put out and produce rather quickly Which lets my son say to me. Hey dad your album came out in fucking October and young thug has put out four projects in the last year And now while I laughed at that Hey, the air that wind tunnel shit is really loud if we can do something about it While I laughed at my child saying that the more I thought about it Kids think like that they do that is how kids think yo The more the more time I spend with my child the more I easily Understand all of the people who tweet me and call me a relevant Whack a loser a moron. Hey, I agree with y'all y'all ain't even old enough to remember when I was that nigga I get it now now that I'm hanging with my child. But anyway back to my My more broad point damn. What was my more broad point? What we just talking about mass producing and putting out A lot of music at one time in the need to No, I was getting some after that being in the studio without having to think about it. Oh, yeah, my conversation was worse. Yeah, so So you gotta you kind of got to do something to keep up Because that's the generation and the climate that we are in you you don't really have time to sit and think about lyrics You don't have time to you got to go or you'll be like me Stop putting out a project a year as opposed to two three four and five. I text fabulous day I said y'all I need some shit. He said all right cool, but I'm working on two projects right now I said why the fuck is you working on two projects right now? He said niggas time to work Bet you didn't ask about the podcast though Well him and I had an entire different conversation after that that shall remain anonymous I've been having some pretty interesting conversations with some pretty interesting people that will remain anonymous But the day that these people are told man, you go y'all go here better one day, but anyway, so my point is fab Who number one I will forever remain in debt too for what he did for me at the start of my career? One and to someone who I always applaud as having been having he's he's the closest thing that that I have seen to L L Cool J today in the sense that I saw fab be the man at some level I 1997 Then saw fab Drop his and I believe that things change in five-year intervals I then saw fab drop his debut album on September 11th when the World Trade Center fell and When blueprint came out as a brand new artist times were different then he did that successfully He then stayed hot through the the rise and fall of the Jersey era right He then found a way to stay hot when niggas thought all he could do was rap about bitches and some say Drake kind of came and stole some of his talk about the bitches thunder He then reinvented himself again and turned into a different fab so when I say fab is the closest thing I've seen an L Cool J today. I've seen fab from when I first heard him to now go through a few different errors in hip-hop because today the errors are moving a lot more rapidly than they did back then you said five years I say to yeah today the errors change quickly quickly quickly Everything is you know microwave will be understatement. I'm just waiting for trap to die So now what was it to wait? So now what was I saying rest in peace fight dog? Well, what was I getting to before I just talk about that fam shit? I Don't remember. I don't remember. I didn't take your boy Until you sometimes I get too many thoughts, but the point is That niggas working on fucking two fucking projects. I don't have time for the out niggas can't don't have time You know, I almost don't have time to be lyricist you know I work Still, I think I found a good way to walk a line To walk a to walk the line and again, you know And this has been a reoccurring topic on on on this podcast require some time Just the effect that the trend is having on On some of the elder statesmen, you know Not just in hip-hop with rappers and producers having to adjust to a certain sound or shift in sound or or anything sonically period But again journalists having to adjust to this new wave of You know anybody with a laptop and Wi-Fi being a journalist You got to combat that like times are a changing Like quickly and again, I was having this talk with my father. I'm like like remember that tell me what we're gonna Phone did you have a ten years ago? I had a star tech. What time phone did you have ten years ago? Oh? Shit a flip. Oh wait ten years ago is a five oh six a next tell. Yeah, I'm Samsung flip or something. I had a next tell The chirp chirp ten years don't seem like that long already. No, that's crazy That's the end of high school. Yeah Next I'll do a lot of different shit now Mm-hmm. I can see a lot of things being different and ten years from now. I don't see a lot of shit Being there in the year from now. Yeah, but in ten years. I could just really see like some amazing And I don't want to talk about it cuz I'm not gonna start depressing people. It's important that you get out there and vote I will say that it's important that you get out there and vote. It's important that you get out there and vote and I'm not even No, oh it's fucking campaign time. So let me fucking plug plug plug. I've never been that guy my entire career But it's important you get out there and vote now Do you guys have any answer to that question that I proposed earlier is drinking to speak after all that? No, they wouldn't be it has he peaked has he peaked has he peaked I agree with Roy's With someone with such a great Disography and for the past when a drink. Yeah, so far gone. Oh nine, but even but even you saying I have seven years use Lens credence to my argument, but it says he's not really going in with the momentum We're used to I totally yeah, you're definitely but with someone with such a Great past you can't just put that to them that quick Someone that has done that many great things. You still have to give them that benefit of the doubt Until it's consistently becoming that way Okay, you're talking to somebody who it's Consistently been that way for for a little while now Like I feel like he might like You talk into somebody who very much like you when I see Drake's name. I just download it I don't bother listening to it because it's just fires just fire, but I like you just said we did I'm out, but you know that about me So but you're still doing that time out, but you know that there's no hater in me I'm and I have to say that to you because these people listening they don't know me Yeah, it could sound like just light skin on light skin hate to an idiot, and it's important that this is not for idiots so With you knowing I'm that way. It's been that way for with me for a while I haven't rushed to I haven't rushed to download even today. I didn't buy that shit I'm I Well, you're also and this is an age joke You're 35 He's catering to the 20 to 28 era and that's what's working right now My timeline was going was only talking about that Drake shit, and that hasn't changed at all So to say that he is completely peaked and you can't give him the benefit of the doubt that views may be great Well, I never said that this should be a Miranda more and how views will sound okay I'm talking about going into it For the masses he still does For you main maybe not but the masses yes, okay Rory that's what we're predicting so yeah, you're right, but we're predicting of course to the masses today He still does one of you asked me if I take he's peaked. I'm talking about musically I don't care about what people are saying. I'm talking about do have we heard the best of Drake music from Drake in my opinion. That's what I'm out But to the masses he hasn't skipped us. He hasn't skipped a step To me yeah But my personal opinion is not the majority the majority is he has not skipped a step Everyone immediately went to download that Drake shit. I missed stop what they was doing I'm tweeted about it right away midway through the soul. That's because he demands that but that don't speak to the the Greatness or non-greatness of the song like those are two different arguing points Everybody's stopping to do stopping what they're doing and listening to the song which we agree on happens That don't speak to whether the fucking song is amazing or not It is a good song one dance But his single right now Is hotline bling which was the biggest record in the past few years So so you can't really say that he's peaked because he just put out a smash Well in the other little intricate freestyles he may not be grabbing you Come on Roy. You know what the did the tractors say about Drake and that hotline bling record So it's not really even fear that you bring that up in in this argument because that lends to my argument And I don't want to talk about that because I don't want to believe that yet But we're getting more and more voices coming out I'm not talking about that nor want to put that in this conversation See I don't want to talk about it either But when you talk about hotline bling I have to talk about that So I don't want to talk about it either But it's I mean you still can't take that out of the equation because it's a smash single like it's huge Well, that's why it's out of here Well, that's why off of this podcast and I can't say he's peaked because he just put out a huge record That's why off of that's a good record musically. It's a good record that My response to that is going to be bad Which we just said we weren't going to talk about and then you followed it. We're talking about it Well, who's to say what uh one dance you can say the shit with the same with the one dance Just because people are coming out now If we're gonna go that route then you could say that about his other smash singles way back when that's why I didn't want to bring it in here Because there's no actual evidence but we're not talking about way back then. I'm only talking about from take care moving forward That's all Well, you alluded that when the weekend left That his sound changed it did and his momentum changed it did So we are bringing that into the conversation then Oh wait, what are we saying now? Oh people because because we were saying that's his peak, right? And you were saying the weekend was heavily involved in that And that is what you are saying is his peak is take care I do agree with you at this moment. That is the best that he has put everybody should agree to take care of the peak So to say so to say that you can put the weekend into the take care when you're saying when he's peaking You can't then just not put it with hotline bling and say oh, so am I eroded? So we can't put that in this conversation all I'm because you're putting the weekend into the take care peak that you just said I have to all right and I'm gonna close with this since you're making me do a timeline All I'm telling you is this I'm not saying that Yo since the weekend left That nigga shit being crazy black. I'm not saying it. I don't think you are all right what i'm saying is this Take care is peak Drake at his finest his best body of work as of today Consensus would be right since then I've heard trapper drake for a lot of years now I've heard dance hole drake for a lot of years now I've heard drake on a fettie wave. I've heard drake on a I love kononin komoman machonin wave I've heard a drake on a tenashi wave. I've heard drake on I could tell you all of the waves that I have heard drake On and nothing really seeming to be quite like then you have the rumblings of the two Houston kids saying whatever They said I don't know because I didn't believe too fucking I don't believe that shit So I paid no mind. I'm just telling you the rumblings that are in the air We have party tweeting that he had a project coming out fucking last year and that project is still nowhere to be found He's been quiet at the church mouse. We would have to assume he's working with drake on views Right. We have party who wrote the work record for Rihanna So I could say that drake knows that work record is about to be number one in advance Hence him running to the studio and making mad replicas of that record. Of course So now with all of that information in the can And i'm saying this as a drake fan When I look back to the peak And I say well, what happened then what was going on back then The only thing relative to it is Oh shit, we can play That's what i'm saying I don't have any inside information. I would never i'm not and drake is a fucking superstar now. So i'm not mad at niggas writing femme He don't he's he's reached that level for me Like I think that's what my problem is It's like when you when you have somebody that you fucking love and only you know about and then too many people know about I've never fallen victim to that, but now I feel like drake is a dance hall superstar He's a reggaeton superstar. I'm dead has these are the this is the music that me a day one drake van has gotten Um reggaeton fucking drake. I've gotten a trapper fucking i've gotten every drake, but the drake i fell in love with Why He's progressing in his career Yay did the same thing. He just did it better. He progressed. He changed the sound Yeah, I mean i'm not suggesting It's better or worse, but that is what he's doing. He's progressing with the sound that is relevant now Well, maybe it could have stayed relevant if he would have stayed to the take care so far going drake created the sound now I'm not in the one but don't do that. Roy. Don't do that. Me and you fucking cringed when we heard fucking jz doing uh Uh a two chains flow. We cringed so now so now so now don't come now don't do that Don't don't don't do how is he not progressing with the sound the trap sound drake didn't invent the trap I'm not i'm not agreeing with his moves. I'm telling you what he did. That's evidence That's just pure there. I'm not saying it's good or bad or I agree with his moves or what you should have done I'm not trapped was fucking relevant. He didn't need to do it, but he did it Drake has created a whole genre of a sub genre of music the drake that i'm talking about that I love Not the wave chase or drake it's two different drakes And I don't want to ever refer to an emcee and artist that great That way it sickens me anytime we do it when we say it's two different holes two different cams two different wanes two different We're saying the same thing. I hate it all We're saying the same thing. I'm just telling you what happened. He he went with the sound that was relevant. All right, but not I would have loved if he would have fucking took Uh all the majed jordan shit all the party sound All for you majed jordan was until her and made views from the six like that because that is the ovo sound I would have preferred that but he didn't do that he didn't trap shit and let them get that lane I forgot about that majed jordan is in my early earlier argument about all of this too about waves because that's important Waves or views no about always I think I'm missing. Well, I think that was probably why their album Was not as good and I do believe and I think they're working on views And you know what and and I'm saying all it is just to have content on a podcast just because it's food for thought If you're open-minded enough to just really look at their inner intricate inner workings of shit that's happening but uh I Do believe that people behind the scenes are are angry with drink I do believe that I believe it when he's saying those things that he's saying about executives or higher ups doing whatever the fuck they're doing So like I understand his predicament. I do To piggyback off that can we ask why j did one line on that record? Name's sake But why look I said that's pretty monumental. Um, but why do it that way the three of them? They're all intelligent. Why? It was like when they did black republican. I was like, why Jay and naz. Why? I liked it, but they I mean, of course I had the fucking dream. Oh, yeah I love success. I love love success. We love success. That's great. This is fucking success Black Republican kind of got a lukewarm. It took like four minutes to just get a verse Yeah, be one of that dope. They took a mad long bringing a beat in Pardon me. Me as an emcee. I miss uh, I do miss those days where the beats Came in and rocked for mad long like on that record that we was just talking about. Oh, what record was that black or problem? Never probably. Yeah, would a beat just rock for mad long clap back? That's another one when you know, you just got a smoker of a beat Yeah, and you just remember clap back coming on Oh, I was tight on a life of Pablo Or famous when even yay says swiss said let the beat ride and he let it ride for like a bar Like so what was it before? Yeah, let the beat ride. Yeah, when you let the beat ride my nigga, you got to let the beat ride. You just got to let the beat ride Jesus mary and joseph. All right. Am I missing anything? Am I missing anything? I want to put that argument to bed I want to wish all of these brothers are Nothing but success more success because these people already successful, but yeah It's just just fools would thought if you're just watching the fucking war going on inside of music Right now the way that I am so I have to ask these things All right, we did it. Oh shit. Did I miss anything? Oh, thanks. No No, no, I don't think anything else. Maddy. Is there anything exciting happening this week that I must talk about? Yeah, it doesn't really feel like Easter was kind of muddy Easter. Oh, yeah, that was two weeks ago, right? Yeah, a little bit late. Yeah, we were in LA for Easter Oh, that's nice. Yeah, it was two weeks ago. We're going back to LA, right? Yeah, man They announced the candidates for the double excel freshman cover like last week. I don't care like a thousand of them. I don't care I don't care. I don't know. They kind of lost credibility on it. Yeah I used to be so great. Yeah, I don't care. I don't know if that's double excels fault I'm not saying it's anyone's fault. I just lost it. You know, I understand I understand the business aspect of things It just sickens me because a lot of these up-and-coming kids Um, they call me for advice and they'd be really excited about getting some of these some of these accolades like the double excel freshman cover And because I know it's business and how it works, you know, it just puts me in awkward position predicament every single time So I don't really care about that. I don't I don't care. I don't care Me and Rory went to a bar on sunday. Oh, what's cool? I don't know this The squad the squad is in uh in trouble, man. Oh, there you are. You called it from jump No, what happened? Yo, Mottie might be getting kicked out of the squad. I it's my squad. I can't stand this comment She's been kicked out the school. No, no, so against my better judgment. We go to ringside It's me Mottie and samira samira is part of the squad I think by accident she's been on this podcast or yelling in the background Mm Joe have you ever seen the clip of kelly rollin saying I am the second lead vocalist Of destiny's child and Beyonce coughs and then gives her a side eye. Yes I am asking the history of the squad To samira. I said, oh, I didn't know I thought you knew Mottie from childhood She says, I said, no, I only knew smair for a year. Yeah, I only knew smair for a year. I said, oh, it's crazy How did you get into the squad? She said Well me and Daniella best friends And then Mottie corner of my right eye Throws the side eye Right at her and I'm left speechless Really wasn't a side. I it was it was 1,000 percent aside But I told you there's some weird synergy going on I don't go out. Are we seeing the demise of the squad before our very guys? Almost annoying fucking people in the world. I don't go out much period. That's it They go out a lot. I don't like doing the shit that they do happen 90 percent of the time Your tone is way too aggressive because you guys keep saying this to me and I keep telling you why your tone's aggressive Yes, so clearly the aggressive tone was not changing But still your tone remains aggressive Oh, well, Mottie got me a pva card out of it. Oh, yeah, I was flirting with some cop and he gave him a pva card Thanks cop, and that's all you're flirting is good for I'm pretty good. I'm a man. I'm not my man. He drinks and he gave already a pva card pva cards don't hold the same way to the use No, they don't. They really do. I feel like they just point them shit and give it them out like Back in the day You was good out the jam not navel or be careful out there's rough Before they used to be like all right who you related to like they'd care now They just look at your license and run your shit. I never used that. I got like a laminated thing from my dad's Cooper friend. Hi Vanessa. This is I know you listening I just thought they ought to be we knowed listening. Yo, so uh damn that would be so bad Cleveland, but listen shut the fuck up. I'm saying I took people no Yo, so I'm having a conversation with a older woman who shall remain anonymous Via text and I'm having to answer for all of the embarrassing things that have ever occurred in my life like my love and hip-hop vests She been killing you Um dating kaolin and tiri not embarrassing child to them. They're good people. It's embarrassing when you're speaking to people your age I'm never when I'm not speaking to when I'm not speaking to children. This is it's embarrassing. I'm having you can love is never embarrassing and it's something in that ballpark. There's a very good women. There's something embarrassing about having been in love with them at that one time. Yeah, it wasn't right for you It didn't work out, but there's something wrong with it. They're good people and it was good for what it was No, you're wrong. I get that you're you're a little younger as well But you're wrong when you're speaking to 40 year olds a 35 year old putting its dick and a 20 year old is creepy I mean it is creepy. So we don't have to defend it. There's something creepy about you. You weren't 35 Yeah, I'm trying to help you out here. Even though you're still but you weren't 35. No trying to help you as a friend, man Let's see 33 No 32 All of it is next my point still stands So, I mean what I'm saying is nothing for you and I to argue about I get your point I'm not saying that these people are bad people. Yeah, I'm just talking about how it's Your behavior. Oh, maybe how it's viewed. Yeah me. I think older women love denim. She wasn't in your vest No, it was a nice vest man People people you know, it's just a joke. People really liked it. No, it's a bitch got a lot of jokes So She been killing you I'm off it. Hey, I'm getting my ass kicked in this fucking uh Oh, and I am about to piss Vanessa off because Vanessa gonna hear some of his podcast and think something else is going on And then this is something else gonna be happening and then she's gonna block me. Yeah. Well, you're this should be blocked already still No, she didn't block me. We're friends now. She did. Mm. Why do people do that? They only block the people that are front your friend You know, and I realized about Vanessa and we're gonna get out of here after this But this is what I realized about about Vanessa or this is what Vanessa helped me realize about me. I love crazy You I love crazy. I love it. It's kind of entertaining like it's kind of dope a little bit if it can be controlled You're fucking nuts. You're crazy. And that's why you love crazy Well, if I am, I wouldn't know it because it's a great idea. Yo next time. Oh next time you rap Just hit playback and listen to yourself Shouldn't it taking this long Oh, well, I just finished it laid back on the show and all I heard was Show us uncle. Oh, she'll he sound too. What's down here, right? Gross. Shut up. Oh, or something. All right, I sleep her songs of the week Oh Oh, shall I want to call Johnny? Mine's kind of slow. I don't know if I want to pull it. Okay. Anyhow, so Joe and Rory you guys should both should have heard of this song This is for a title assign newer fans that don't know about his older work That's super fucking dope, and this is honestly my favorite song ever made by title assign We're gonna hear you on we hear you Okay, well, we're gonna play over him Yes, what's the idea? My Oh Oh Maybe we've been talking on the phone texting Now So that's title assign know why I came it's on his first beach house beach house one I like beach house one and yeah, that's my favorite of the two Um, he said his next album's gonna be called beach house three by the way, which would be amazing because that series was super dope But um, yeah, title assign know why why is that a first of all why is that a sleeper? That's a joint that is a motherfucking joke. That's fucking uh king dollar sign These new fans don't know anything about this They know fucking or not and uh blase blase. Yeah, it's really sad You didn't know about it until a couple months ago. So let's start I'm new about it Body making fucking beach house one sound like it came out in 94 I'm out in 2012 these young kids. Yeah, they don't even know his old stuff Let's see who do I want to go with? This week the Roy do one yet. Yeah, but make my transition easier Because what mine is not going to transition well from that title is i'm not playing a record I don't do all that fucking play a record you have before no play a record Just do it. I gotta find a record stop raging against the machine. Hey now. I have to take my phone case off the phone. Oh my god So much more production with thumbs up like that. I understand Super knocked out Now now that i'm doing this is as man fucking pressure man. It is man pressure Oh, you know what is it possible? We're totally going to resent you if this just sucks is it possible to do a Justin Bieber sleeper song Must be made it in like oh eight You know what man. I'm going commercial man. Fuck it since y'all put me on the spot selling out At least I have integrity with this series Mm. No, I changed my mind Oh, we could do this. Have I done this song? Have I done this Chris Brown song before? I think he was done at Chris Brown I don't remember ever doing a Chris Brown song and a lot of people don't know about this song because they didn't buy that album royalty Because it just wasn't that great of an album. I ran through it twice But the joint that I love on there. Oh, man They never write when you tell me you're gonna change You probably shouldn't even kick it no more like that fucking karate Selfish self you know, I'm telling the truth girl Chris you never Everything bitch I'm a drama skill Oh, talk to him Chris. What happened? Hey And they go You know, I'm an uh, that's a joint ending of Chris's town too, man All right. Well, this will be a good Segway motties was fake turn yours was a R&B and mine's gonna be slow R&B It was turntish though for this segment this is uh Lianni lahavis gone, which is a phenomenal record off a phenomenal album There's so much pain in this bitch's voice in this record And I don't mean bitch in the way you think I mean That's all I would cry I love crying Yes, I found you out This isn't my last good part. You'll be back Is he used to be in my life and so keeping everything in tune What the heck my last time I checked man. We had it all. It was just me and you So what happened to you thought I'm you you thought I knew you Remember where you heard it first 101.9 Now keep it ready your voice will will end that way I'll face I'll fade us out Now you got to kill it with the fucking I I I I I Is I I Do life and so who this All right, right here to do the fade out with his radio I Classic 101.9 sounds. I'm your host DJ verified I'll name his podcast later right here on your Wednesday afternoon shift We're gonna get back to you with some more commercial free jams on the way we got some album. I'll be sure I need a baker My man loot the vans rest in peace right here 101.9 (laughing) - Bye. (laughing)