The Joe Budden Podcast
I'll Name This Podcast Later Episode 53
Not Sure what wasn't covered in this episode; from All Star to the Grammys to Charlamagne to Kanye to Drake/Kendrick/Cole to Nessa & the 49ers, etc etc. We also end the podcast with Billy June, a friend of the Juan Epstein podcast, as he tells us how he lost his dominatrix virginity. www.getbevel.com - promo code: JOE
This episode is brought to you by Bevel, the first and only shaving system designed specifically for coarse curly hair or sensitive skin. Start shaving smarter and say goodbye to razor bumps with Bevel. Check out GetBevel.com today. Use code Joe to get 20% off your first month at GetBevel.com. That's G-E-T-B-E-V-E-L dot com. Alright, here we go. We are here. We are. It's just Rory and me. That sounds like the name of a really bad show. Yeah, we should, we're going to keep this as women friendly as possible though. Alright. We have to be super massaged. Yeah, yeah. Oh, we're cool. We're kidding here. This is exactly. No, we have women in the studio just in case. They're just not going to speak. Yeah, but they're not going to speak. They're not going to speak. Goddamn it. We have women here to look at. I mean, fuck. Jesus. We just won't value their opinions. Not even five seconds in. Alright, wait a second. So, I will name this podcast later. I don't know what number we want. I think it's 54. I thought 52 was last week. Whatever. Alright. I feel like I haven't done this podcast in quite some time. Even my levels ain't right. Damn. They're doing me out here. Alright, so there's a lot to get to and I'm hungry and I got shit, shit to do in places to be. I don't worry about it. We're going to go eat, baby. We're going to go eat. Alright, but don't talk. Don't talk. So, Rory. Yes. Michael Roars. What's up, man? I'm worried any time me and Mike and me and Rory are alone to do the podcast. We need Marissa here to balance out our shithead, even though she's an even bigger shithead. But Marissa, to my understanding for anybody who cares about Marissa's whatever she was doing. I don't, but I'm going to tell the people to do. Marissa was very excited the last time that we did this podcast because she was on her way to Toronto. Now, in Joe Biden's brain, all of the junior varsity thoughts, all of the freshman IG honeys, you know, the bitches that ain't never been nowhere. Just got their first fly. Just got their first athlete to pay some attention to them. All of the bitches that is working on the angles, the bitches that ain't just quite got it down bad. But in a few years, baby, we see where you're going. Marissa was happy like that. She ain't never been away. So she on her way was real excited and I wanted Rory to pull up the fucking audio so we can hear how excited she was. But because we're not that professional here, we don't have it. So your ass is going back. Listen, the last week and hear how excited Marissa was to go to Toronto. So Marissa went to Toronto. I know only because she put in the group chat. I hate the group chat between the podcast group chat me, I don't hate talking to Rory and Marissa. I don't want to talk to them together. But she put it in the group chat. She headed to Toronto early. Thursday wasn't she left? Thursday. Thursday she left. And her very thinly vealed mask. Well she was there to work. Which is where I was headed. Her very thinly vealed mask was, I got to work. The thing about that, oh man, you know the thing about work, this is the way you turned up today. I can tell already. The thing about work, right? Work is like, is like when rappers tell a girlfriend, "I'm going to the studio." Some of them don't know what that means. I don't even know if I want to tell them now. All right, so if we get about that one. So go at it. As a matter of fact, I could steal that one one time. I'm in the studio with Joe. Yeah, so let's not blow our karma. So the thing about work for women, I can't, I can't prove or disprove that Marissa had work to do. If you want me to be perfectly honest, I don't even know what Marissa does for a living. I just know I see her at Hot 97 sometimes. That's all I know. I want a network report from everyone that went to Toronto this weekend to network. To network. To network. Was Marissa going to network? Marissa the blogger. She was going to cover All-Star Weekend. Was there only Wi-Fi in Toronto? Oh, she needed to be there like a live reporter, right? Yes. Great. So I was really excited for her. I was happy for her because I love Marissa and as a junior varsity thought, you're making your way up, baby. Yeah. Making your way up. The podcast is doing great. Your little blog, she's doing great. And now you can flow on out, baby. You're doing good. But then miraculously, the next day, she went into Toronto. How did that happen? I don't know. I would love to ask her myself, but she's not here. So to the listeners out there, you can @mottiamenro, @marissamendes, great retweeter of all. And I will pay because my plan wasn't. I told her when she got here today, I was going to ask her a million questions about All-Star Weekend. I have so many questions, but she wasn't here. But I don't know if she'll tell us why she wasn't there. The only thing we know is she was unpacking in her hotel and then packed her bag immediately and left Toronto. And we would love to know why. So if you know Marissa Mendes, call us up. Yeah, I'm saying that. There's no phones in here. Ain't no phones in here, but I'm saying anyway. If you know Marissa Mendes and you call us up and tell us why you think Marissa had to go work and then suddenly, damn, if there's a damn, is that a Billy Ocean song that starts like, what's the whole thing that's on? Suddenly. No, that's just, all right, forget about that. Um, shut up, Sam. Could have been Billy Ocean. One of those nights. There's a song. I'll talk about that later. One of them nights. Hey. One of them nights. I feel like eating down. That's my shit. That's my shit. That's my shit. Right there. Roy should know about that song, but Roy got a good taste of music sometimes. Um, yeah, so let's ask Marissa whenever you see her and she ain't getting away because her plane, which is just the other part I'm confused by, she landed today from, I don't know where she came from. She literally just landed. She just landed. We're recording this at seven o'clock on a Tuesday. Her plane was delayed, which is very irresponsible and totally unprofessional of her to try to fly in and land exactly at the time of the podcast, but I'm not going to spend too much time on Marissa Mottie. Hey, baby. Hey. It was all started in mad long ago. So and the Grammys, but let's stay with all star first, all star weekend. I think it was amazing. I think it was great. Yeah. I mean, we missed the dunk contest, but the recaps were great. Um, the three point contest. Thank you. Now I had to work. I had a gig. So we were unable to see the, um, dunk contest. I know we missed it. We fucked up. We're idiots. And we shouldn't have seen a three point contest, but we stayed anyway. Uh, I love Clay versus Steph as a rivalry moving forward in the three point contest. I love the camaraderie. I love the, I love the love that they have for each other and the competitors and the competitors. No, I'm getting that. I'm getting into that. The competitive nature between the two, because we really see it from teammates. So great. I love that they're both amazing in different ways. And I love that both of them like skin all star weekend was like a coming out. We got rid of all you dark skin niggas. It's over. I don't know. In case there was a little Kendrick closed the weekend, can I'm not counting Kendrick as a dark skin guy, then what is he? And he lives in LA. All right, bro. Is that not fair? No. Every time I go to LA, I get darker. Okay. If we put Kendrick ass up here in the fucking snow, he going to be brown. He not going to be dark might be like me. Yeah. You can't prove that yet. Like me, Jason Kendrick and you are not the same complexion. We don't. We can't prove that because he lives in LA. When you went to LA, you did not come back his complexion and you were there for a month. I know. He looked a little assier than me. I looked a little more golden. Oh, shit. I looked a little more gold. My complexion was a bit more golden than Kendrick. He was like a fucking Boston market rotisserie chicken. That's what you look like. That's golden. So thank you for proving my point, Rory. So now anyways, and I'm saying Kendrick's not golden. He's darker than that. I'm trying to talk about, see, this is why you and your white shit sometimes, Rory want his white privilege, white power shit to always be dominant. So we can't even have a light skin celebration weekend because your white ass is interrupting. So now you done trying to bring up, you're trying to start black on black rap beef. Absolutely. Are you finished? No, go ahead. So now that we got that out of the way. You dark skin niggas, we got y'all out of here this weekend. So Clay, right, and Steph, one last, yes, two light skin niggas there. Who was a dog? Oh, James Harden was in the shit. He's dark skin niggas. Oh my God. Did he stink it up? He got 13 points for you dark skin niggas. Out of here for y'all, right? So then Zach Levine comes. Who's he going to get up? Aaron, my fucking Gordon for the man. Two lightest, lightest guys. Hey, hey, hey, two more light skin niggas. Got you dark skin niggas. The fuck out of here. Best dumb cuts. Dumb contests. I ever seen in my life, even though I ain't seen it. Best highlights I ever saw. Word, best sports center I fucking ever had to endure. And then who won Russell? Now Russell Westbrook. One MVP. Is what? Is he dark skin? No. He's on the cusp. He is on the cusp. He wants to be us. He wants to be us. That's a good skin man. He dresses like a light skin man. Yeah. Which I don't know is a good thing. And he's a bit emotional. Is he? On the court. It helps him. He channels his lights. That's better. I mean, I disagree with all that, but I'm rolling with it just for the sake of my argument. So light skin niggas won all star weekend, but that's fine and dandy. That's not an important part. What was funny to me and what I wanted to know was to all you thought, now seeing a lot of stories. Boy, did I see some stories. I should have like, I should have invited somebody here to give me like a recap because the things I heard, I heard it was groups of you old that didn't know you needed a passport to get into Toronto. Yep. No, no. Really. Wait. Like showed up to the airport? Landed in Toronto. Oh my God. Not showed up to the airport and landed there without a passport. What else did I hear? You lose. I love a good whole story. There's nothing like a good whole story because you know, it's just, y'all don't get no fucking dumber. Like, nobody wants to hear a good girl story. I heard some more shit about the whole, damn what was I, I think I favored it, all this shit. I've seen it. But I want it was freezing in Toronto, snowing. I know that because I follow Biz and Biz every time he goes somewhere act like a thought too. He'll show you everything everywhere that he's going to show you the weather, the mall, the crowd, the people. Biz don't know how to not show you what's happening. Biz was with Drake, Biz was with, I, Biz was with a lot of people and I'm sure they was thinking the same way that I was thinking, how the hell did Biz get next to me? Shout out to Biz. So it was freezing snowing I know because I follow Biz. I don't know how you hose was doing it. Some of you hose that don't fuck the promoters and some of you hose that don't fuck the athletes. Nah, the new shit is fucked the DJ because you can plug your phone in, they have a laptop. You got to think smarter. The bitches care about that? Oh yeah, they got to plug, how are they going to get through the Instagram pictures off? That's true. Yeah, no, they fucked the DJ now because a promoter won't plug your phone in. That's true. DJ has a USB. I didn't know that. It's a new wave. Yeah, that's pretty interesting. Well, this is back in my whole days when Griffin was popping. Long ago, long ago, ages ago, ages. When Griffin was open, the DJ booth is right when you walk in, you go over that door, put your jacket there too. No coat check. Hose loving. That's kind of the perfect setup if you were. So the DJ makes me get in runs, man. Yeah. I recently started DJing, so we'll talk about it. You hose that we're not having intercourse with athletes or someone of some type of important stature, I would assume that you guys had a difficult time out there because I know the whole holes don't get cold thing. I know that. I know that. I know that. The myth. Shout out to the queen. Shout out to the queen. But it was cold. It was cold. It was cold up here. So I felt for the hose. I didn't even see very many, I didn't even see very much footage. You know how to hold the always put up everything. I didn't see very much. Now I have one of the funnier stories that I just can't tell. Like some, sometimes- That's not fun. I know. You pussy. No, I can't. I have to respect it. And you just like leave the names out? No. Okay. I will. All right. I'll try to. A very short version. Just elude. No, because this person's so sensitive, man. All right. So we'll try this. I apologize to you. I know, and I know an associate, right? Who knows an athlete. Okay. I'm following. They're associate. Which is fine. Because you're a mad associate, it's a nomad athlete. That is true. That's what I don't know. We're not narrowing it down. Yeah. Yeah. That tells you nothing yet. The associate was here, not in Toronto, and the athlete was in Toronto. And the conversations that I had to listen to the entire night as said athlete may have needed help from said person that was in New York. Oh, my goodness, it was the best shit I ever heard ever. I can't give you any more than that because I don't want to offend my political connects. But Jesus, it was great. And after that, I thought it was an amazing all-star weekend. I think Adam Silver did a fantastic job. Some of y'all don't want to give Adam Silver his credit, but for me, his fingerprints were all over that from the changing of the skills competition, which Rory pointed out to me, from that to, you know, sending Kobe off just correctly, like, I just saw a lot. And I won't credit him for, you know, the greatness of the winners of the three-point contest and the dunk contest, but I could just see a lot going on with him, and I liked the way he speaks. So I could see him taking the NBA to heights that David Stern never did. Like, he's the only commissioner that I've ever heard speak about illegal sports gambling. And say on record in his first year, I would like to change that. That has to be profitable for everyone, because sports gambling is a billion dollar industry. Yeah. Under Adam Silver, I could see logos being put on NBA jerseys in the near future, just to have more revenue come in. Like, there's some things that Adam Silver's brain, he's a former attorney. And I think that's another reason I'm so infatuated with him, because I love just people that are supremely intelligent, and you can hear it when they speak. He's one of those people. I love him. So big up to Adam Silver, I love him. I look forward to everything that he's going to do, and shout out to him and the NBA for an amazing weekend. You've saved the fucking drought, because Lord knows all star weekend has been a piece of shit. I do want to address some of the commentators. Some of you sports commentators, right? I've heard multiple people wait a quick sidebar, Michael K, on ESPN radio. You the only negative want to talk baseball in February. Nobody gives a fuck about baseball, and I was damn near tempted to call your ass and tell you that, but I thought Peter would be smart enough to tell you what he's not. So I need to tell you on his podcast, and if you don't hear it, hopefully somebody will tell you. We don't give a fuck about the pictures and the catches reporting in February, my niggas. So off of that, real quick. Some of you commentators, right? I hear all of you, Stephen, all of y'all just shit it on the all star game, and it's lack of defense, and I'm confused. I think that the product that they put on the floor, the lack of defense, the high scoring games, I think that's what they want. Yeah, I see competitive basketball all year. I don't need to see that on a Sunday when all my favorite players are on the court. I don't under so maybe I'm naive or ignorant, but I remember when baseball, I don't know if baseball still does it. Didn't they do whoever wins that team gets home field advantage of the World Series? I hope they never do that to basketball. See, and that was what I was going to bring up. In baseball, y'all hate that, y'all hate that all star weekend, I mean the all star game which is supposed to be fun and for the fans, y'all hate that it determines who gets home field, I mean not home field, fucking, which fucking AL or NL gets fucking did home field advantage. It's not home field advantage in baseball, I don't think, but I got it right. Well, whatever. It's the seventh day. Yeah, whatever, whatever. Whatever. I don't do much stuff right now. So yeah, y'all hate that, but y'all hate the fact that the NBA is just not competitive. Me and my kid were watching it somewhere where he shouldn't have been and he loved it. I loved it. I loved everything about it, so maybe I'm naive and ignorant. I would love for someone savvy to explain to me why it's a problem, that they're not playing defense and that the scoring is all the way up. And I do know that in years past, you don't play defense and then in the last maybe three or four minutes, you play a little bit of defense. But I told my kid who was rooting for the East, but he don't know nobody, fucking 14 years old, I said to him, "Hey, this happens every year. The East gets off to a real good start." And in the second half, the West come and kick they fucking ass. He said, "Oh, again, no, not this time, the East." And sure enough, the second half came and they kick they fucking ass. And I looked at that kid and I said, "See you little Nick." Ray was waiting for Kevin Hart to get on the court. Oh my God, yo, I got to really learn how to be a father. Yeah. Wait, wait, so do you, wait, wait, that was you there. I am not a father. Wait, but I'm out to your knowledge or that you claim. I'm not a father to any kids that I claim. You got one in fucking Iowa, Idaho somewhere, but we'll talk about that later. That was you that me, you and Trey was watching this shit, right? Yeah. Let me tell you, let me tell you about Rory. Rory fucking the whatever game that was celebrity game, right? No adult cares about that game. I don't give a fuck about the celebrity basketball game. However, my kid does. So when that game came on now, but I ain't been around my kids, I just met my kid. When that game came on, that kid said, "Oh, yes, the celebrity game. Oh, no, what's the channel, Dad? Yay. I want to see. Oh my God. Kevin Hart. Yay. Kevin Hart. Forte time MVP. I hope Kevin Hart comes out." I'm sitting there and I'm saying to myself, I'm thinking to myself, "Why the fuck is this kid so excited about the celebrity basketball game and why the fuck does he think Kevin Hart is God?" Because he said, "Kevin Hart is mad nice." You know, I never turned down a good debate. So here I am, debating with the kid. Oh, yeah? With a 14-year-old. He's talking so nice about Kevin Hart and basketball court. He's only the four-time MVP. Well, no, really, he's the three-time MVP because of one of those years, he wasn't supposed to get it and he's the coach and the fucking player. So he'd be rigging that shit, "Huh, kid." And Rory, I think that was Rory or Parks, one of them niggas. When I was telling them that my kid loves Kevin Hart so much, that was Parks. That wasn't you. I'm not even putting that on you. Parks said, "Okay, Hart. He's a fucking bum. Trey. The fuck you wanted." Is that Parks? What are you doing? I didn't say that. Stop talking to the kid like, "He's a fucking--" Stop ruining it. If my kid loves and idolizes Kevin Hart, then damn it, let the kid do it. I don't come and fucking shatter his dreams. I remember what it was like when somebody told me to stand closed, wasn't real. I remember that. I was heartbroken. I remember when I thought that two fairies was really coming and taking my fucking two from under the pillow and putting some money under there. Those are good old days. So all four of them-- Kevin Hart is real. Is Kevin Hart mad, nice and basketball? No. And Kevin Hart is my man. It's Kevin Hart mad, nice and basketball. I'm like, "Yeah, come on. I don't care about it. My kid is giving me celebrity game stats." Well, he went up against T-Mac. So I just let the kid watch the fucking shit, man. I don't want to come be the dream Shatter and I just met this kid. So I'm saying that for T-- uh, for, for, ah, my-- Facetiously. It's been a long day. I can see. Facetiously. So we go straight from All Star Weekend to Sunday, right? Mm-hmm. And I don't know what was going on, but I totally forgot that the Grammys were coming on. When the Grammys were last night? No? Yes? Am I bugging? But I'm saying, from All Star Weekend, the very next day the Grammys came on. I would have liked to prepare better for that, but because it kind of snuck up on me as if it hasn't been happening every February for my entire life, I didn't prepare for it. So I watched the Grammys. Wasn't Rihanna supposed to perform? She was. She called a bronchitis. And that's a-- Re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, re, first of all, Navy, what up? I want no beef. Hey, right? Shout out to the Navy. And I love re, and I love kissing better off that album. I've been blasting on-- That's what she was going to perform. Jesus. Mm-hmm. Now, Rihanna had bronchitis? Yes. That is what her PR team put out to the world. Or do we believe it? I don't know. She could have had it. I don't know. She could have had it. I'm asking you if you believe that Rihanna did not perform because she had bronchitis? Uh, no. I think she's been performing long enough to know she can get through that. And this was a really big look. So her performance was probably not up to par because she just put an album out. The next thing was going to be kissing better. Naturally-- So it is? Yeah. Naturally, you would want to perform that at the Grammys. That's a fact. You're saying that with certainty? Yes. See, now go back to our last conversation when you said you didn't know if that would be the fucking single-- I thought that song was amazing. Well, yeah. And then I looked at the tracklist and I said, you know what? You're right. Oh, I forgot that part. This song is like excellent. Who wrote that song? I can tell you right now. I want to say James was somewhere on that writing, though. Well, that's because you think James wrote every song that we like. Because that's typically true. Who are the things that James Fonlivore wrote, the Beatles catalog? Wait, you didn't? I don't think he did. Although the people was not him? He might have wrote that one. Okay. No, James, I'm joking, of course. But James Fonlivore is amazing. He's getting a little too weird for me. I had to unfollow him. Yeah, it was enough. It was enough. I can enjoy someone's music and not have to see all your fucking fuck shit. And I'm sure that's how many people feel about me. I took the words right out of my mouth. I hate mouths. I talk about myself before you can. So Rihanna didn't perform because of bronchitis air quotes. That really disappointed me. I was really looking forward to Rihanna performing. Mind you, I didn't know who else was performing. I didn't know. I didn't see a set list. I didn't see a sheet. I didn't see commercials. It snuck up on me. I didn't see shit. I just know I wanted to see Rihanna. So the grimmies, they normally come on big. So I wasn't in front of my TV at eight o'clock. So I made the Spanish people in the restaurant where I was who was watching the fucking news. Fucking Spanish people, man. They got to be informed. I went up to the fucking the owner when they asked my man. See, that wouldn't happen if he was there. I went up to whoever was controlling the fucking TV in Sabor and Edgewater and I said, "Hey, I get that the news is really important, but the grimmies is on." And that's kind of a big deal. So they turned- No one went to Sabor to watch the grimmies, though. Well, I needed to eat. That's why they just naturally didn't happen on it. I needed to eat. Well, see, but they're aware, they should have more awareness than that. If you have any type of fucking black people coming into your establishment and you have a black artist that comes in there three times a day. Yeah, I doubt they're in their early management meeting like, "Show me, come in. What are we going to have on TV?" Nah, nah, they be all for me free drinks and shit, I come in there so much. But as soon as the grimmies went on that TV, all those Spanish people glued to that TV, so much they even turned the volume up. So anyway, Taylor Swift came on first, right? I didn't really care about that. I didn't care about- I didn't hate her performance, by the way. Well, the TV was on mute at that point, so I didn't hate it either. Oh, wasn't that bad? I've seen worse from her. This is what I love because I don't even want to spend too much time on the grimmies. Kendra. Probably one of the better performances I've seen in my lifetime. Well, I'd have to think hard about that. My life is a bit longer than yours because I'm a dinosaur, but that was amazing. From start to finish. Yeah, incredible. And to keep someone's attention that long while wrapping that fast is very difficult to do. To enunciate. Yeah. That way is a skill. And whoever came up with that fucking camera shift on his last verse is fucking genius. Yeah, it might have been, what's TDE do's name, the fucking, the nigga. I've had a long day. I don't know. Oh boy. It might have been him. But that performance, man, oh man, I mean, I saw, well, let's delve a bit deeper. I'm on record saying that that Kendrick album is not for me. I still feel like that Kendrick album is not for me. It's not something that I'm going to wake up and play. It's not something I'm going to get in my car and play. However, I'm objective enough to be able to recognize that it's probably one of the better hip-hop albums ever released. There's a difference there. So now let's talk to the idiots, Charlemagne the God. And we're going to call you idiot because Lord knows you've said enough about me on your show and you still my nigga but that ain't going to stop this idiot moment from talking to you. Is this your donkey of the day? No, this is just me calling somebody idiot. He's smarter than that. He's one of the smarter people in radio. So when he says something real stupid, somebody got to call him out on it. And because he has such a large outlet, when he's stupid, all the stupid people become even dumber, Charlemagne said, and I'm going to quote, "Oh." Because I like to be accurate in what I am saying. And I didn't even understand why he did this. Charlemagne said, "I hate when I favorite some shit and then it disappears." All right, here it is, Charlemagne said, "I see a lot of you critics who said to pimp a butterfly was whack when it first dropped mad it didn't win album of the year. You're all so lame." I think that Charlemagne is smarter than that. Charlemagne, you can't understand black people who may not like that music wanting to support one of their own at the top of the genre in that circle and that venue on that platform and want to see him do well because of the message that he's speaking. I am sure you understand that because you have your fucking black panther moments too. So I don't get why we can't support Kendrick and want to see him win and want to see him do well even though that album may not be for us. Well, for me, those two are totally separate statements from me. Like Roy said, the people around Roy's age, that's probably some of the most prolific shit that they have seen. So because Niggas didn't welcome that album and play it in fucking one oak and fucking play it in apartment 78, rest in piece apartment 78 and play it in fucking Griffin because I didn't get in my car and play it. I can't want to see Kendrick do well. That's some of the dumbest shit I've ever heard. And because you're smarter than that, I'm giving you the benefit of being smarter than that. I've got to call you out on them. And because you have such a large platform, I can't allow you to make the stupid people even more stupid as you can't. I can't. Now to get off of Charlemagne and get on his partner, Andrew Schulz. You've had probably what I think is the tweet of the year. What do you say? He's pretty funny. I recently followed him like a few months ago. He said Kendrick is doing what Kanye thinks he's doing. I didn't know that he tweeted that. I saw that tweet all over my time. I didn't know that he said it. He tweeted that. Okay. That's amazing. That's like a genius. That's true. There's some truth to it. I think, and I'm not touching this because I don't know what Kanye's hive is called. But I don't want a problem with them either. They don't know what they're called at this point. I think Kanye is Kanye's hive. If I'm just going to keep it up, fuck, Kanye, they don't know what to call them. Kanye's hive is him. That's all he needs. Hey, and I don't want a problem with him either, but, and I don't know if that's accurate or not. I'm just, I'm totally being, this is, this is pure, this is speculative. But that is funny. That's Larry's. All right. Some of you all might not think it's as funny as me, but I laughed for a very long time, and I don't. When I am writing LOL, I'm the guy that is not LOLing. So I really laughed. Now, with that said... Good segue. Let's segue to Kanye. What do you think of the album? I don't want to get to that yet. Okay. Let's talk about something that doesn't matter at all. Kanye's tweet frequency. What do we think of that? Well, my opinion's a bit different with this because my relationship with Kanye is just music. His personal opinions in life and his behavior outside of music does not affect me in the slightest. I do not follow him on Twitter. I do not care what he says on Twitter. None of that bothers me because my only relationship with him is music. He's never put out an album that I didn't like, so I'm fine with whatever the fuck he's doing. As long as he continues to produce music, that sounds like this. Can I stop you there? You just took just a quick interruption, and this is why you and I get along so well. Totally unlike Johnny the Greekon. Ooh. Ooh. Johnny. Great stuff. Johnny. As Johnny, I said, "Johnny, what do you think of the Kanye album? This is a few days after it came out, so you got some time to let it resonate." He said, "You know what? I don't know. Because I don't like him as a person." He does so much asshole shit that it's like, "I can't even like your music because you're so fucking arrogant that now I want to not like you. So even if I heard the album and I thought, "Yo, that was one of the best beats in the world." Then I turn around and hear you saying, "Yo, that was the best beat in the world." And now I'm like, "Oh yeah, well now it's not the best beat in the world." And I... Wait, why does he like you? I don't act like that, Dave. I'm not very arrogant. Whatever. Dick. You know, anytime you get to just belittle me and lower my fucking self esteem and confidence. Yeah, because nobody else does it. Amani does it all the time. Well, Amani's not on this podcast. Bill does it all the time. I can name a few people that do it. Those are your real friends. It's probably only two. It's probably only two people to do it. But, so I like that you've said that. So were you going somewhere else? No, no, I was done. Um, so you don't care about any of that? There's one decision that I do want to talk about, but get your opinion off. One of the tweets that I do want to discuss. I don't care about what Kanye tweets either. I care about what Ryan Fest tweeted. Interesting. That is what I care about. Ryan Fest is a gentleman that I have met on multiple occasions. I won't speak to his character because I won't pretend that I'm at his house every Thanksgiving. I am not. However, as someone who is big on energy, that guy has a pretty good energy about him. Ryan Fest said some things in response to some fans asking why he was not working with Kanye or whatever the fuck he said. And he said, I'm not going to quote him because I don't know and we don't fact check on this show. But he said something like Kanye is not right in his heart and his soul. I love that brother and I pray for him. We all need to pray for him. He ended with just when you thought that somewhere in there was some bitterness, he explained, I just stopped working with them last month. Just last month. Y'all don't know that. It was just last month. And he said something like, he said it way better than I'm about to say it. He said, we need to pray for his well-being, not his notoriety, his helpful. That was, go check Ryan Fest's Twitter. And also to know it was a reply to someone's question. He wasn't going on to someone's ring. It wasn't a ring. It wasn't a ring. It wasn't a ring. It was a direct reply to a question. Now, a nigga like me whose brain just loves to process everything that it can. I read that and I tucked it in the back and I paid it in no mind until Kanye started to tweet so much. Some of that shit, I've never been around Kanye. That's not true. I've been around Kanye quite a few times. But he's never been wild. I've never been in an intimate setting at all. He's never been nothing but a gracious host and amazing gentleman to me. But if I'm just reading Twitter, which I'm not one of those people that takes whatever you tweet and now I'm going to assess how you behave, I'm not that person. But I could see how someone who is that way could take what Ryan Fest said and make it applicable to Kanye's timeline. Now, let's get that out the window because like you, I don't give a fuck. I think Kanye is a genius. Yeah. And I think this is what you get when you get someone like that. I also think like he said on his album, all geniuses are loony tunes. And he's been this way forever. There. Wacko. Kanye again, I'll say, went on national television and told the entire country that the president does not care about black people. I don't know if y'all understand the guts that it takes to do that, but he did that. So nothing that he tweets. And at the peak of his career, where it could have went two different directions. He was a star at that point, but he could have fell. He wasn't this Kanye now. He wasn't that big of a star at that point. But that was the first. It could have. Yeah. It could have affected him. Yeah. Like white people were just starting to like him. Yeah. So I so nothing he tweets will ever shock or surprise me. But because I think he's a genius, I pay attention to it because there's a jewel in there somewhere. Well, my guy nerd said on Twitter, just take what you want from the Kanye tweets and I'm following. Yeah. Take from it what you will take from it. Yeah. Just mute him or anything. So now let's segue to something more important with just the music or you have one of the tweets. Well, it's part of part of the music. Please. He did say I will only sell my album on title. I will not be selling it anywhere else. It was a rumor that Homeboy wanted to buy his album for $10 million. Same dude. I'm not going to bring his name up on this podcast. I don't even know his name. He's a piece of shit. Why? I'm going to- Is he buying albums? No. He's taking them for the people? Yeah. Have you heard the Wu-Tang album? No. He hasn't took it for the people. I don't want to talk with this guy on this fucking podcast. Has anybody heard that Wu-Tang album? No. Yeah, he bought it. And he says he's never going to let us do it. So we can't hear it. All right. And he will talk later. So he said I'm only selling it on title. I'm scared about this. And this has nothing to do with title. I want to make the record clear that I love title. I want to make that very clear. I wish you guys could understand the inside joke that Roy has been running with for like months now. One day you will. And then I'm going to go back to this podcast. But anyway. This is kind of nerve-wracking here because I've never been a big fan of streaming. But now we're taking- It'd be a great business move on titles behalf to take Kanye's album and only make it available there. But now you have your competition, Spotify, Apple Music, who's going to follow suit. Okay. Apple got a whole bunch of fucking money. They're going to throw a whole bunch of fucking money at an artist and only make it available there. And this is going to start a trend. Artist being Drake. Yeah. Yes. So this kind of puts us in a position now. Music has always, always been about business. I know that. But this is going too far. And withholding it for the purpose of your stream is scary to me. Let me just say you are on to a very prolific and broad point. This is a great point. It's to everyone's detriment. Yeah. Yeah. Because now we're taking art and withholding it. Not just for money. This is for competition. Because fuck the artist. I mean, yeah, you're going to get your money, but no one's going to hear you album unless they sign up for this. Of course people are going to rip it. My argument here has some holes. It could be ripped. Kanye shit was ripped in five minutes. But if this becomes the wave, they will find ways to not have that happen. Hey, all you little idiot hackers that think y'all doing some by ripping some shit, check, check. Like, that's so minuscule in their grand scheme, like that dents nothing. You're not napsoring their plan. Just so we're clear on that. But I agree with you. I agree with you. It's going to start a trend. I almost want to say it's already started a trend. And it's scary because if there is one person powerful enough to get all the people that we enjoy listening to, to not put their albums out, it's old. Yeah. It's old. And I would do if I was working for title, I think, oh my God, that's the best fucking business move ever. But as a fan, that's terrifying. That's horrible. But see now, see now, this is going, this is about to go somewhere else. It's about to go somewhere else. If I'm home, I didn't really have a choice. I didn't have a choice. I came and I tried to do something with my business partners. I bought this old shit. I revamped it. I brought some cool niggas on and I was just trying to get a 1% of y'all large pie, y'all blocked that. Y'all didn't want me to have my 1%. I'm a hustler from RC, my nigga. What do you think I'm about to do? Now let's play ball. He's playing ball. So I can't knock him for what he is doing. He's doing exactly what he should be doing. But again, it's hurting everyone else. Like I'm not saying him directly, but that streaming competition, it's not healthy. It's not healthy, which is why I've always been, I've always been against the music business. This is fans and people who are passionate about music and what they enjoy. We're about to be severely punished by the music business. And this has come from someone who wants to support the artists that I like, by paying them. So well, that's what I'm going to get on because we were on the car ride back, right? So we were coming back from West bubble fuck somewhere. And if you know me, I'm playing nothing but R&B in my vehicle. If you have ever been in my vehicle, there's nothing but R&B, unless I'm in my rock and roll move. You very, really will hear rap. I don't know if I've ever heard rap in my car. But I say that to say, we were coming back from West bubble fuck. Who has like souls of mischief posters hanging in his room? That's the type of backpack hip hopper he is. He can tell you every member and associate of digging, of the entire digging in the crates crew. That's who parks this. Rest in peace to big L. Was that today or yesterday? What is today? His death date. I think he's a it's a 16 today. So we should fact check that. Yeah. So I don't want to ever be wrong about big L. So you fact check that while I while I finish this door, parks. So we're in the car and I got my fucking verified R&B set. I'm blasting. I'm going. Parks is in the back. And he's not saying, yo, I need to get a new Kanye, my nigga. But he's saying, yo, I need to get a new Kanye. He's like, yo, that Kanye available right now, wants a title. Shout out to title. I love title. I'm like, great, nigga. Now stop making me turn down this fucking Tink song that I love so much. Let me finish a little nap. Nah, we got to hear this, my G. I'm about to they want $20. Like waiting for the reaction. Then he didn't get his, man, I'm just about to pay that $20. He paid to the, oh no, then he said, oh, this is what this is the funny part. He said, oh shit, three stacks is over here, three, your Kanye got three stacks title. Take my $20 Joe. Can I get the aux card? Now when you say that to me, to those of you who do not know me, you might as well curse my entire family and wish death on us all. You get the aux card? Why on earth would I give you the aux card? But I want to hear the new Kanye too. At this point it's five in the morning, four in the morning or whatever time it is. To those of you who don't know, your ears and your brain, everything functions differently at five AM. So you can hear something at five AM, hear that very same thing when you wake up and it will be a totally different tempo, it will just sound totally different. Same thing I have when that BJ Chicago kid that you played me and then I text you two days later, like, yo, you have to hear this shit. No, Rory was in my room. I'm blasting resume, BJ, the Chicago kid, Rory's like, yo, that shit crazy and church. So church with a chance to work. I mean, I'd heard church before. I know, but that tells me Rory is informed. Two days later it's me. Yo, I'm listening to this BJ, the Chicago kid's ring. Yo, you gonna love this resume record, huh? But anyway, I gave him a pass. So Parks plugs up. Now we got Kanye blasting the whole way, right? Enchro comes on, it's great music. Then what sounded like another Enchro came on, it was great music. Then what sounded like a third Enchro came on and it was great music. At that point I turned around and said to Parks, I ain't gonna front. This nigga better play some fire soon because I need to hear something. And as soon as I said that, Rihanna's voice came on. I don't even know what she said. It was like she was speaking in fucking Roman Catholic old verbiage. She said some shit I never even did. She said, we rollin', we a goddesses. I don't know what she said, but Rihanna be sound like a fucking goddess. I love Rihanna. I'd play it via title too, but SoundCloud might be beefing with title now. So I'm just gonna leave it alone. Chill, chill, chill, let's not offend our political connects. But you should subscribe to title right now for $19.99, and you can hear it. I'm not gonna do this on my fucking pocket. You do that with your podcast, damn it. Oh, who I was in the club the other day and some DJ, I don't know if he was biging me up or trying to be funny, but pump it up came on and it wasn't me. It was Jay-Z. And I'm standing in the club gettin' ditched by Jay-Z, I love that. Through affecting my whole life. Just do a podcast now. No Nick, I still get busy, I'm gonna do that, I'm gonna do that, damn it. I see him seein' boyfriend, so listen, he's just niggin' all the lurgers here. He is funny, he's funny, he's funny, he's funny. Anyway, um, damn you threw me off now. I forgot. Oh, okay, so Rihanna comes on. Oh my God, this heavenly angel voice, Rihanna comes on. And Swiss, who I'm well documented in saying, I don't care what y'all niggas say about Swiss, who, Snapple fact, was tryin' to put me and Cassidy and drag on in a group together in '94 and '95, and I said Swiss, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. But anyway. Well, at the time. No, I was way nicer than them in '94 and '95. I was what, '96 it was. I was way nicer than Cassidy and fuckin' drag on, and I'm way nicer than them today, so why would I be doin' that? Well, you were way nicer than your other group. I was way nicer than... I'm not so what sorry I was doing. Way nicer than... Way back then. But anyway, let me not diss myself and everybody. I was gonna disfam in Paul Kane and I shouldn't do that, so go ahead. Why would you ever do that? I was saying you were better than your other group, but go ahead. See, you always fuckin' are distasteful, yeah, fat is great. Complimenting you, you ask. Come on. Oh, me? Okay. I said you were... Oh, my God. Appreciate it. Jesus Christ, I said you were better than the group you were in. Okay. Thanks. Appreciate it. Okay. Don't diss me and then double back to compliment me 'cause I'm still on the diss. Friends? How many of us have them? Fuck you. Ones we can depend on? So Rihanna's heavenly angelic voice comes on and then Swiss comes on with the hardest beat in the universe. Swiss, who I say, would win a beat battle against a lot of people. I agree. Now, y'all might think, 'cause you know, you hear the rumblings in the past of Swiss only makes one beat. Those beats sound the same. He's Cassio. He's stealing noises. Let me tell you something. In a beat battle, in a beat battle, Swiss wins against a lot of people. And one day, if anybody wants to challenge what I'm saying, because I do it every time to my challenges, what I'm saying, we can go through it. You can pick a producer, you can name a beat, I'm a name, another one, beat for beat, Swiss wins. Swiss came on with the hardest beat ever. It was amazing, even at five in the morning. And then Kanye came on and wrapped the bar and then at the end, like, I don't even know what, like God happened at the end and all this reggae shit came in. Yeah, she was hard. What the fuck was that? I hate reggae. I cannot stand reggae unless a bitch with a fat ass in front of me. I don't hate a reggae shit. But this, bro, what the dum, dum, dum, dum, dum, dum, dum, dum, dum, dum, dum, dum, dum, I don't know what they were doing. That shit made you a loxia. That was the bet. Huh? That shit made you a loxia box side. No, I never, I never relax. My back side, glory. All right. I don't want to hear your shit and I don't have time for it. Fucking dick. Brianna Navy. You deal with this guy. They deal with him. Whatever reggae shit came on at the end of that when they flipped it, a classic Kanye just flipped it. It's a fucking genius, this guy. Amazing. So when we heard the rest of the album, long story, less long, we finished the album and me and Parks, we had to get gas, we walked into a smoke cigarette, we said, I don't know how I feel about that yet. I just don't know how I feel about that Kanye album. So I went to sleep and I woke up and I remembered that I heard the Kanye album and I said, wait a minute. I don't remember to think of rapping too much. That was my only thought at the time. I hadn't processed the album yet and I tweeted that and some of you simple tends who have a hard time with comprehension seem to think that that was a shot. No, that's just a fact. There wasn't very much rapping on this album. That don't mean that I don't like the album. I haven't even given you my opinion on now. It just made a lot of rapping on now and it's not. You can't debate it, listen to it, listen to this old album. Ain't that much rapping. I'm a rapper. I know what the fuck rapping is. Right. I put the album on again and you were with me I think. I did. I sent it to you. Via title. Oh, yeah. No, it wasn't via it. It was via SinSpace. It was a link. What are you talking about? It was a title. I put in my debit card information and I quickly arrived to the title app. To the SinSpace section of title and then I sent it to you. Thanks. I appreciate it, Roy. Then Rory and I listened to the album from front to back again, twice. And I said, I chill. We have to have like a Kanye segment where we just talk about him being God like on the podcast because that's how I felt. That's how I felt. Wasn't very much rapping on this album. So what? I don't know if I want to hear a lot of rapping over that beautiful music. That was beautiful music. And I saw a few ghost writing tweets and a few ghost beat. I don't think people understand that like Quincy Jones didn't touch instruments. There's a difference when you're making this type of music. You have to understand that you are a composer and a producer, producer and beat maker are two totally different people. I don't think people want to hear about understand that. Well, to help you understand because I was trying to think of some people that were that amazing. It was Kanye. It was Dre. That's where I stopped. That's where I stopped. If you listen to a Dre album, listen to Dre's last album, you can hear Dre. I'm talking about the changes, the producing, the sequence, like so much going on like a audio movie. Dre did that. Kanye has now done that. How many albums has he put up? Seven? Don't quote me. Well, let's go to them. I'll drop out. Late registration, graduation, 808, my beautiful dark twisted fantasy, Yeezy, Yeezy's and this. Am I forgetting something? That's seven. Good music if you count it. I don't. Big Sean, fuck you up trying to take my beard. I know that's very random. I got a lot of mentions yesterday when he got on a fucking Grammy's looking like fucking dark skin Jermaine button. He looked like my fucking nephew or some shit. And your little fake grown up outfit. Yeah, knock it off, my nigga. You was just fucking... I was talking about yours, that is. Oh, mine. Oh, I was back on him. So let me get back to this now. Yo, so you was just fucking the little 12-year-old Ariana girl who keep the same ponytail for ten years now. So don't get my face off of your face. I don't want to see my face on Big Sean's face ever again. Shout out to good music. Yeah. With that being said. Watch the throne. I count as a Kanye album. I'm not gonna say the good music one, but watch the throne. We can. We can. That album to me was amazing. Was amazing. So now Kanye to you people out there. We on one today. I tell you I was gonna be on one today. That is now seven if I'm not counting watch the throne. That seven completely different albums, seven each time Kanye has released a body of work. You had no idea what was coming. That's unheard of. That is unheard of in hip-hop. That's damn near unheard of period. So that needs to be recognized and saluted. No, I 100% agree with you. I've made this argument a thousand times when everyone's I want up the old Kanye college dropout shit. I said go fucking listen to the album. I'd like the next sound. Whatever it is. Unless it's Jesus. And I still appreciated that. I appreciated that later on. So now so now let me tell y'all what I tell what I've said to Rory repeatedly. When when we heard this shit, the same thing with Jesus because we were together in two right? I said I don't know. We were together at some point because when did I say this to you? I don't know. Well, it doesn't matter. I said to Rory that and this is very true. Kanye is the only artist, the one, the only artist for me that when I listen to his shit and I don't like it, I say I could be wrong. I could be wrong. Was he just the only time you thought that? Nope. Nope. And repeatedly. Well, I know a thousand people that hated 808s when it first came out. And now it's one of their favorite Kanye projects. Jesus, I couldn't appreciate. I didn't understand what the fuck are you doing. Later on, I grew to love half of it, right? When he started wearing sweatpants with shorts. No. Yeah. You got to get in the mood. I get it. Get your joke. Get your joke. Get your joke. Go ahead. Go ahead. I'd say kid if I have a problem with kid for fuck give suck my dick all y'all. So with that, that was from Joe, not from me. Yes, from Joe suck my dick, kid for anybody that worked here. Okay. So now with that said, um, no, it wasn't then what were you okay? Okay. Joe bad. I told you always turn up today. I feel like we haven't done a podcast and a year I'm happy to be here. So no, that's not when, but I grew to love half of Jesus. I didn't love my dark, beautiful twisted nightmare in my bed who's sleeping in my window. The way that I eventually did when I first heard it, which was remarkable to me because I normally when I buy an artist album, I want to hear that artist. I don't want to hear all your fucking friends. Kanye is great. You had his friend. Kanye. Your best. Beside just Jay. But I love you. Look at you. Look at you trying to now send some shots out of you. Yeah, you fuck with me. Look at you. No, not fuck title. I too think I to think bleak is one hit away. Oh my God. Jesus Mary and Joseph. Hey, sidebar bleak. Bleak has a lot of hits. Hell yeah. No, we've had this conversation. Why would you down a downgrade? What bleak has done? Why was bleak one hit away? Yeah, man. You can do a whole bleak set at the club. A long bleak set and every girl going to shake, they ask even if they don't know that that's bleak. Serious because a lot of songs I'm sure they don't know is bleak. I don't think bleak got credit for his that your chick. I think a lot of chicks thought that that was Jay Z song or Missy song. I don't think bleak got credit for do my ladies run his mother fucker because you might think that's a Jay Z song. I don't think bleak got credit is an I could keep going and on and on. But anyway, yeah. I don't know. Bleak. I don't think that's the record. Hey, I don't think it was. Hey, bleak. If you listen, I never thought you'd want it away. I loved everything you were doing. Oh shit. Oh, we even that's how this came up. What was the bleak record up? The first one, we was at Crystal's Park and I was like, remember that and nobody remembered it. I think I left at that. Myth bleak is. No, it was myth bleak is me and you were standing talking to fucking parks. Oh, two different fucking, I'm mixing up my crystal parties. Myth bleak is. I know that a lot of you millennials are not old enough to remember when that record came out. But let me just tell you, when that record came out in Jersey City, oh my God, us dust heads was going nuts. Oh my God. With our little Sony radios and our fucking dip cigarettes, oh my God. How many people got shot at the myth bleak is good old Jersey City. And I also think he has the best verse on 1 900 Hustler, which I know is not a popular opinion. I have to listen to it again. We need to do it. We need to do a list of the records that Jay got cleaned up on. You can do that because I love title and I love Jay Z. You're saying 1 900 Hustler, right? Some people say that Freeway got him on. Oh, I'm definitely saying on what we do. Oh, you just said that you never just said that a lot of people say that a lot of people say that. Yeah. I didn't know that was debatable. I've never tried to debate it. I don't know, but I just thought everyone just thought that. I've heard people say that and I've never thought about it. That's the verse they play at the club. It's not fair because Freeway wrapped for a long time and Jay comes on a page. No one's taking away from the greatest rapper will tell. A lot of people say Jay got cleaned up on a run this town. Yeah, yeah. I can't get the bit of a verse. A lot of people say Jay got cleaned up on Monster. Fucking Nikki cleaned up everyone that had said a word on that. And I wouldn't care who said what, renegade is a mopping. I disagree. I don't think it's a mopping. You've had this debate. We've had this debate and I'm not saying that because I'm signed to Eminem. I don't even know if I'm still signed to Eminem. He's like, "I didn't hear none. You just said it?" I know, but he definitely got cleaned up on renegade. Oh, you turned up to rock fella diamond. Oh my God. Who is this guy? Who is Rory right now? Hey, and some of y'all don't, some of y'all think because of mine and Jay Z's history that I don't like Jay Z. There's not a bigger Jay Z fan in me. Like ever, ever, ever. But those are the records that people say he got cleaned up on. And if I'm listening to you and you to me are like the voice of the idiots, the young people. That's much. It's 25. You're like fucking 11 years old. Like that's probably an indication of how people think what you're saying. I think... So if that's the case, you only need to make a list. I mean, no, Nas kind of put it in everyone's head that and killed him on his own shit. No, no, no, no, no, no. But I don't think he was the victor there, but I don't think he cleaned him up. I didn't believe a word that Nas said on ether about Jay Z. Let me just be clear on that and I'm one of the people that pick takeover over ether. I take facts over, you telling me that this is something? Well, I think it was on record that Jay Z did do Taibo. But I don't think he was the hobo. But what was the hobo? You said you didn't believe anything, Nas said. He called him a Taibo hobo. Oh, I couldn't. He's pretty shit. Hi, John. All right. Let's move on. Where were we going before this event? Kanye's albums. All right. Kanye's albums. That is like epic unheard of. If you take... You know who's on their way to doing it? Kendrick. Yeah. Kendrick. He is two for two classic like amazing just pieces and bodies of work. Now I will say this just because I'm a conspiracy theorist and I like to debate shit. Oh, man. I don't know if we need to get this turned up. Give me a minute. Talk. Let me think. No. You can go to title.com right now. If you have a purchase from 1999. It's really dumb. Let me take your mic. That's why Marissa needs to be here for moments like this when we just going to get ourselves in trouble. Hey, if you ever... You're right. Good man editing. Hey. No, edit is shit. If you ever seen the meme, right, the picture of a homeboy from Hangover with the beard and he's standing in front of the shit looking at all the fucking floating numbers and shit, that's what I got to do right now. I got to assess life to see if this is important enough is the risk worth the reward for what I am about to say. So Rory, go after your title commercial and give me two seconds. Okay. So you can go to title.com/purchase, put in your credit card information for... I figured out how we're going to say it. And you can get exclusive... Thanks, Rory. I'm back. Streaming. Rory, I'm back. Thanks a lot. So I figured out how I'm going to say it. Kendrick is on his way to that. Two amazing, different bodies of work, like classic, just greatness. Greatness. Greatness. Biggie, right? Oh, man. The Notorious B.I.G. I love big, but I don't know how much credit big is to get for his two amazing albums because Puff was there. Okay. I have never heard, even in bigs, even with Biggie's untimely demise, I've never heard a bad Puff album. I've never heard any album that he had anything to do with be bad. They have all been very cohesive. They have all had hits. He... Craig Matt gave us a hit. Total to three ugly bitches from wherever they was from gave us a hit. Jeez. I was fucking 14, 15 years old and they weren't attractive to me. Mind you. Puff didn't know where to put my dick if they was in front of me, but still. They had hits, 112. Now this is where I come in, 112 whose catalog is amazing with hits. I was in Def Jam when 112 went to Def Jam. And I was in that, well, I wasn't in the room, but my ear was to the door. If you know, petty me, my ear was in the vicinity. And Puff was telling Kevin Lauzenham, "Y'all niggas think that y'all just going to take my creation and they just going to pop? No, these are four corny niggas from wherever they're from. So you wanting them? You got them. Y'all don't want me to have nothing to do with this. Watch how it turns out. And I watched how it turned out. Can anybody tell me what those singles were from the 112 album on Def Jam? G-dep gave us hits. And an amazing album. Shout out to Ghetto. Very underrated. Go get if you haven't heard it. Black Rob gave us hits. My point is... Oh, my God. Love, loan. Mario, why does anybody Puff has affiliated himself with and dirty money? Dirty money. Damn. Love it. Phenomenal. Day 26. I love it. Great album. So my point is... Dan Lee King. But I'm not trolling. No. There. I'm good too. Yeah. That was my song. They're fucking first single. Oh, the band damage. I used to be in the club and damage would come on and I would be looking at all these bitches singing the words to damage and I'd be like, "I'm not talking to you. You feeling that song away too much? You got mad issues going on with you." But my point is, because I'm too long on this, when you have people that are great at executive producing and producing and just putting shit together, I don't know how much I credit Biggie with life after death and ready to die. I don't know. I know we hear stories about there were records that he didn't want to do. We heard those stories. He didn't want to do juicy. He didn't want to do hypnotized. If you're old enough, you remember all these stories. So I don't know what to credit him with. Now Kendrick, he's done it twice. I don't, because I know that Dre is so amazing as well, I would just love to know, I would love to see it. I would love to see it come to fruition is what I mean. Well Kendrick is good at picking producers for himself, not going after the hot guy. I mean, I'd take away from Terry. And I'm not taking away from... Because Terry's more than putting his foot in the ass to people butterfly. But I don't want the idiots to confuse what I'm saying. I'm not taking away from anything that Kendrick has done. Kendrick is amazing and one of the hip-hop is in good hands with him. I respect Dre and those guys so much. So my point is Kanye is on that level. Kanye is on that level. So this album to me, I don't know where you would rank it amongst his albums. I'm not even bothering to do that. This album is not even a week old. I've played it numerous times. It's up there for me. I really like it. A lot. A lot. A lot. A lot. And I think Kanye is to be recognized for doing something that nobody else can do. Drake who is at the top of hip-hop, right? That's a safe to say. Who is at the top of hip-hop? Kendrick Drake, Jake Cole, right? Yeah. Kanye. Well, Kanye. No, I think Kanye has put himself in a... He's like a different. Remember how Jay was different? M was different. There were people that were different. That's what you're saying. When you all talk about the best rappers, don't mention these niggas. That's just my default. They are... So, Kanye, I don't think, is in that class. Like he said, I'm the best of two generations. That's why it's different. Yeah. He's been around, and he's still kind of the best. So I don't put him there. So you would say Cole, Kendrick, Drake. Those will be the big three, I would say. We haven't seen Drake do anything like this. No, but I don't want to see him do that. I like the lane he's in, and I like the lane Kendrick is in. I don't think they need to be compared. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. So let me rephrase. Let me rephrase what you get what I'm saying. I'm talking about full-length albums that are just hands down better than everything else at what they do. I'm not saying Drake should change what he does. Yeah, I would say Drake has that with his sound because we've seen that sound get copied a lot and nothing has reached take care or so far gone with the sound that he has created. And I'm not saying where he got the sound from. I'm saying, who has done Drake sound better than Drake? Nobody will ever do Drake sound better than Drake. Nobody will ever talk about selling drugs better than Jay Z or push nobody. Like there's certain things that people just are masters at. Nobody is doing Drake sound better than Drake and Drake is responsible for an entire sub-genre in music. Let me, let me say that. However, if you ask any Drake fan, myself being one of them, what is Drake's classic album? We have to pause. Yeah. All right. We're all going to say take care because take care of Drake's best album hands down at album is amazing. But that album is not spoken upon in the same breath as to Pimba Butterfly and good kid. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I mean. I just think it's different lanes. If we ask anybody what Cole's classic album is? What do they say? Well, I'm not putting Cole in the Kendrick Drake. So now era. But no, I mean, he's right there. I mean, I'm era was the wrong word. I mean, in that three. I think Kendrick and Drake are just a little bit above J Cole. Be clear to all you fucking idiots that will tweet me tomorrow. All of these people are amazing. Every last one of them are changing music, but this is a podcast. So we have to provide content. So I'm asking you a bunch of shit that I personally really don't give a fuck about. Yeah, that was what I said. All right. Yeah. I'll take your phrasing there. That goes for both of us. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My point is if these are the people that at the top of the game, you know, the classics, the classics is all, it's all I mean. And Kendrick has given us two. Yeah. These guys are fucking great. These guys are great. I'm envious of these men, these men are like, listen, my kids talk about these people. And I'm so glad that like hip, like the kids, the 14, 15 year old kids have the Drake's, Kendrick's, Cole's, Kanye's, like those people instead of fucking Chris Cross kid and play. I could go on. Yeah. I like Chris Cross. Me too. School at fucking IS 59 in Queens to go to the F to buy Chris Cross jump, a single black cassette tape and Tim Dogg fuck Compton, black single cassette tape, 99 cent at the same time. Were your pants on backwards? I was done. No way. No way. But I wasn't wearing cross colors. And were you born? So why are you talking to me? Were you born? When I was this is great? No. So now let me tell you about what the world is doing. I was. I was actually for good. Well, what year were you born? 90. You're important. You're changing. Could you walk? I have your money. I don't follow. You feed yourself. You feed yourself. Oh, the fuck? Were you dressing yourself? I used to have plate clothes back then. I told you no real nigga, why tell me about the world back then? About Chris Cross. And Tim Dogg fuck Compton. I know. That was very big and hip hop. Don't downplay it because I can tie it. But then I'll turn it to the old dinosaur hip hop guy. But you back to what we were just talking as we could wrap this up for conversational purposes. I'm going to say you can't really put Kendrick and Drake in that, not comparison, but conversation because I don't want to hear it to pimp a butterfly from drink. That's not his lane to me. But that type of content and that type of music can be an instant classic because it's just much deeper than anything I think Drake does. Even though I'm not saying Drake can't do that because he's done conscious shit. It's also much easier to fuck up though. Oh hell yeah. That's why. I'm not taking away from Kendrick. It's so easy to fuck it up. I just think we want that from Kendrick's mind before we want it from Drake so it's kind of tough to say that. Yeah but don't. Yeah but you shouldn't include that in this conversation because that's not what nobody has said that we want that from Drake. I don't. It never takes time. The Drake came on. My fucking speakers kicking some knowledge. Man listen, no. I don't want to hear it. I need to hear about the holes you love. Yeah. And they're at names. But I'm saying it's a little easier to make a timeless album about the content that Kendrick talks about more than typically what Drake talks about. And this is coming from someone who likes Drake better than Kendrick. You seem confused. Who were you saying what if they were to beef? Oh you agree with me. We're going to talk about that. No, no, no, no. And this was before the Nami situation. Yes, so let's not talk about it. I've got myself with enough trouble in this podcast. I came back with a vision. Hey whatever. I'm back. You're not going to talk about who we think would win there. Alright let's move on from this because you wanted to talk about old girl. Hot 97. We can edit this if you don't know. Oh my goodness. But let's be quick because I'm sure we're at like an hour and a half. So I knew that this would be a long podcast because there was a lot of content. If the listeners do not want to hear it, they can slice it up. This could be a two-part series, whatever you want to do. When is that OJ show? Come on. Tonight. That's why I want to get home. Oh my God. What time? 10 o'clock. Yeah, we got time. Alright, alright. Yeah that show is pretty good even though I lived that shit. So. I had a bad joke. That's a really bad joke there. That's a baby, baby, baby, baby, nessin, nessin, nessin. I was sitting in my living room today, kissing my dogs in the mouth. Sports intercoms on television. I see Steven A. Smith. I see Ryan Clark. I see motherfucker Skip Bayless and I see the new girl who they got to replace Carrie Champion. I don't even know your name, baby. I'm sorry that I can't address you as such. I see them and they start talking about Nessa from Hot 97 and I get immediately confused and I'm saying why am I hearing about Nessa on Thursday while I'm kissing my dogs. I immediately stop tunk kissing my dogs. I look up on the TV and I'm just waiting to hear what Ryan Clark and Steven A. Two people who I love to hear their opinion. I love to hear what they have to say. So they start talking about how Colin Kaepernick is now dating Nessa who is the ex-grouper. A girlfriend of Alden Smith who was on the 49, it was still on the 49. I thought he was a former. He might be a former now. I no longer think he's a part of this. Yeah, but he was. So who are we going to just say that he was there? They were teammates. Yes. Yes. Yes. Let's not shoot her bail. That wages. Somebody has to be a feminist on the podcast. Well that person is not present here, so I said to myself, well we knew that. I said, oh, we real niggas been new to Nessa was fucking home boy and that they were teammates and that the reason that the 49ers are no longer important is because of Nessa. Jesus Christ. Nessa broke up the 49ers. Now that's not news, bitches all day long, fuck teammates. That's not news at all. Something shocking. First first city high breaks up and every day I wake up. Oh man. Word for real. Because she broke up that group too. Oh my god. I used to love city high. Why did she fuck both them niggas? Like I don't I want to I want to hear from women. I don't understand the psychology behind it. That girl was in a group with two niggas and neither one of them was cute. How you end up fucking you had a baby is beautiful still and niggas love you niggas that posters of you on the wall not me but I seem to do it. I'm certainly. She had a baby with one and fuck the other one. There was a whole show about this shit. I seen it. I seen it with a tee and that was a good fucking show. Oh, I love a good host. Wait, wasn't it all boy from sister act two? Yes. Who bodied the fucking shit. What was the song he bodied in sister act two for the young kids? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Huh. Oh. Oh, happy. And he started out real slow with a quarter when Jesus was in your church like like what do white people sing in their church? No, we just we stand up and then we sit back down and then we stand down black people you go in the black church. All right. So we can know. I know what's going on. I know what's going on. You real. But listen. So poor city. Oh, happy and then I make a gut to the end if you seen sister act two, you couldn't feel you if you didn't feel that in your veins, you know, if you can't, if you didn't respect that, you'll expect it was work. Well, really. So anyway, so Claudette fucking broke up one of my favorite childhood groups. Was I a child then? I'm so. Oh, no. It was my childhood. I was mad growing boy. You're still in your childhood. Oh, nessa, nessa, nessa, why did you do that? I'm dying to know. So now this is why this is important for me. And all of this stuff is googling. So I don't want it. I saw my man mall today, mall, whatever, if I don't remember his Twitter name, that's my guy. When the sports center ran the Nessus story, he was like, damn, I see all these niggas talking about the fucking Nessus shit like it's news. And then I chimed in because I'm petty Murphy. And I said, well, baby, we got to keep the secret until it ain't a secret. So now that it's on my fucking screen while I'm kissing my dogs, this is why this is disturbing to me. Number one, I need to hear from women. I need to know from women the thought process from A to Z when you fuck nigga A who's real close or works with or is often at times in the proximity of nigga B. That's one. Now in some instances, I understand that that happens is a small world, niggas don't want you. Other niggas show you some attention. You got, you know, you're lusty. I get it. I get it. But in most cases, it's just be spiteful women. It's just be spiteful women who are hurt and hurt people hurt people. So now I don't know anything about the Nessus situation. All I know is this and this is Googleable. More and that kid out in Smith was together for a long time. Like six, seven years long time, that's long enough to be off the limb. Like there are unwritten rules once you pass five years. I know me and X of mine, we wouldn't even because when you would somebody for that long, you just know everything about it. We wouldn't even go to the places that the other person frequented after the breakup just out of respect. There's certain shit you don't do after a breakup, right now. This is why it's funny to me. And I shout out how they say, I might as well start doing that every time about the shit on somebody. That might be my new thing. That's the cue. That's when they know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the gunshots on verify it. Or like when you'd be like, I don't mean no disrespect, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. My new, yo, no disrespect, but might be so messed up. So this is my issue, Hot 97 for quite some, you know, I grew up with Hot 97 being the number one best radio station in the universe. As of late, they've had their transgressions. They're moving and shaking and bringing different people in and just doing some different things. Nessa was one of those people. So they bring Nessa in under a tight spot. She's there to replace. About a year ago, around this week. She's there to replace a radio legend and a radio icon. Angie Martinez. She's there to replace somebody, a good friend of mine, but what I'm saying has no bearing on Angie and mine's friendship. We didn't just, Angie just knew how to move in New York is my point. You may have heard one, two or three things about Angie in 40 years, right? So you're in a tight spot, the pressure's on and we're looking at you. I had the chance to interview with Nessa when she was wherever the fuck she was in the base somewhere. She was a real sweet girl. She was a wit home boy. So when you came up here, I was the first nigga to come up there and bring her a mother fucking care package. Here's some oodles and noodles. Here's my mother fucking candles. We went to Target. Yeah, here. Here. Welcome. You have great responsibility in New York. I think she was aware of that. Even speaking to her, I could be wrong. She was a very bright girl, very bright girl. And if I thought she wasn't bright, and this is why I'm confused about women, if I thought that she wasn't right and just really didn't know too much about men, all I got to do is turn on TV and look at girl code and she's in the know. They talk about hood shit, guys, girls, relationships, what you do, what you don't do. That's what that show. That's the entire premise of girl code and guy code, right? Yes. She's on that show a lot, right? She spoke to me a lot about morals. She spoke to me a lot about self respect, all of the shit that women speak to niggas about when they want you to think that they have all of this stuff and I'm not saying that's it does not. But one day, I would like her or Ibro or Marissa or Deyani or what's my or enough or what's the home girl's name with the Spanish girl with the nice tits. I don't know. Yes, you do. Come on. You know the name. What's her name? Now nobody in the morning show. Come on. Laura Stiles. Thank you very much. Come on. That's my baby. I love Laura. I love Laura. I love Laura. I love Laura. I'm not this. Ibro is my guy. All of these people that I'm naming, I'm cool with which is why this is important to me. At some point, Hot 97 has to do something to read to renovate. This is bad. This don't get new. When they were dragging her on Twitter, I was like, all right, whatever. No. She was on first take. No, no, no. This is bad. This is bad. And I say that because when I spoke to Nessa and this is why this is important. To me. And I sound like, and I sound like there's some extra shit in here. This is why it sounds like it's some extra shit. When I spoke to Nessa, she dragged rappers. I'm always have a problem with women that think they know men, they don't know. Always. That's just who I am. So women who follow stereotypes, stigmas, and preconceived notions, y'all women, y'all know you probably shouldn't, well, the word on the street is you should not fuck with a rapper. A rapper is a piece of shit and will ruin your life. Nessa followed all those guidelines, right? And this is where my confusion comes in. You seem perplexed. At what point do we hold Colin Kaepernick responsible for this as well? Because I'm the feminist of this group today. Oh, okay. It's a different perspective. Yeah. Hold him as much as we want, get him busy. He's dating her. We are past the getting pussy part. He is publicly on Valentine's Day with her doing charity work. That's I really want to date this woman shit. And in the club, he's doing charity work. Now that just says she's his cutest bitch. I mean, listen, quarterbacks don't move that way. Wide receivers move that way. Quarterbacks don't move that way. Hey, Hey, Colin, baby, that's my friend brother. We know a few of the same people, baby. Hey, hey, hey, Colin, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude. All right. Well, I'm going to give another perspective. I wasn't done shouting out, Colin. All right. He's my friend brother. Go ahead. That's my guy. I see you in the streets, baby. I know. Hey, hey, hey, real niggas know how you're moving, baby. You know, so why does he get applauded for fucking man host and then when she go out and she don't answer me that, Joe, when I wait now, if I was a 49ers fan, I wouldn't be applauding him neither because his play has sucked since he's been fucking at since he's been messing my head up popular is what I will say. I just don't understand how someone who follows the guidelines of killing rappers can fuck teammates and get away with it. Were they friends? I don't know. I think there's some variables here. I don't think we should just throw her under the bus. That bit you getting under this bus. I don't know what you're talking about. That bus. I'm backing up a race. I'm already in reverse. I don't win forward. I don't know what are you talking about? I took offense. I take offense. When you throw stones, you better get that fucking Windex out and make sure it ain't a streak on that fucking glass house. I just do not understand it. When I'm not saying she's, oh, I would never say that. I don't know her to say that about her. I'm not saying, but people are dumb now, so I got to be very careful with my words even on one of the better people that I know with words. I don't want anyone to misunderstand what I'm saying. All I'm saying is what applies to Nessa and I'm going to get off this because Hot 97 ain't my niggas over there and eventually I'm going to see Nessa at his conversation with her. How does that apply when you say that? When you say that, when you say, oh boy, I take offense to that, boy, it hurts my soul. When you start talking about rappers that you don't know as if you know them, it tells me you might have a little bit of baggage, but that's fine. Colin Kaepernick ain't the niggas I'm expecting to hear on the TV with the on the news. I'm not expecting to hear, hey, this woman who thinks everyone in this profession behaves this way is shacking up with Colin Kaepernick. Oh, who happens to be the teammate of the niggas you would love with? Bitch, I'm calling you up here. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Now you got shit to answer for. The same way when all of my shit gets dragged around, all these little motherfucker radio people, they go up there and they say whatever they got to say. Same way, Ebro, all y'all need to do that. When y'all, it's y'all turn now, baby. Tell him, girl, you tell him. Hey, baby, hey, baby. Hey, don't sass me, Gaspie. Hey, baby. Hey, baby. Ebro was probably one darting back in the Nessa about to remember if we're being real. We're blaming Nessa. That's why we need Marissa. Marissa, don't leave me worried to our own devices. And Ebro, I love Ebro, but he know he be darting back in. Well, well, first of all, man, Ebro have a very extensive history. He know I love him too. But hey, when I play and fuck up, baby, the first niggas on the radio, they so ill, they drag you and call you to talk about it. I've been in my bed sleep at 6 a.m. 7 a.m. with my phone blows, Angel. Call us up. No, nigga. We want a shit on you. Yeah. I'm asleep. You bastard. So. To wrap it up, I would like to interview anyone from Hot 97, any one of you, anybody. So y'all could explain to me the psychology behind Homegirl. I'm interested too. The same way y'all all explained or came to bed for Mr. C. I would like to hear it here. I want to hear it. No. It's true. I have an idea of what happened. They was one big united front. And I respected that because even whatever Mr. C's shit was that he was into, I respect niggas sticking up for niggas they wrote. I thought that was dope. Right or wrong. I thought Ebro played that person. That's honorable to me. I want to see you do it now. That's it. Uh, I think I know what happened. What's old boy's name that she was dating first? No memories, man. All right. So she's with? I doubt it. She sees Colin on the field. He takes his helmet off. Throwing mad interceptions. He takes his helmet off. Throwing mad darts to the other team. 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Your pocket's the greatest for starting a disrecord that way, by the way. I agree. Oh, this is a new segment that we're going to add in. I was at Irving Plaza on Friday, so I run into this gentleman who was on the One Epstein podcast by the name of Billy June. I have never met this gentleman, but I listened to One Epstein podcast and I hear his name all the time. He listens to our podcast and said to me, "Are you guys doing that Virginia-ly thing next week?" And I said, "Yeah, we're going to start that segment." He says, "I have an amazing Virginia-ly story." And I said, "We'll come on the podcast." And now he is going to introduce our new segment, where we have our guests tell us how they lost their Virginia. I'm in. Introduce yourself. What's up, guys? Billy June. Tell us about yourself, Billy. I work for Love and Hip Hop, and I do used to work at hot 97. Do you have any Joe Love and Hip Hop behind the scenes stories? I do. No, you don't. Don't lie. No, you don't. Don't let him intimidate you. Don't let him intimidate you. Don't get shit. Don't let him intimidate you. Don't get shit. Don't let him intimidate you. Don't get shit. Don't let him intimidate you. Don't get shit. Don't let him intimidate you. Don't get shit. No, but that implies that tone in his voice says that he knows some fucking dirt. No. Don't let him know. Don't let him know. Don't let him know. Don't let him know. Don't let him know. Don't let him know. Don't let him know. Don't let him intimidate you. Don't let him intimidate you. Don't let him intimidate you. Don't let him intimidate you. Don't get shit. Don't let him intimidate you. Don't get shit. on hip hop, we were at Joe's house. They were like, hey you, you're new. Go move this like 50 pound painting and replace it with another one. - Is that your job? - At that moment, it was, this was like two years ago. - Man, fucking, joke move was on fucking painting. - Go ahead. - No, like we had to move it. And they were like, just do it by yourself. And I'm like, I'm 125 pounds, that's not gonna happen. I was like, can someone help me? And as I was about to pick it up before I called for somebody, Joe said, don't, oh my God, I'm sorry I'm a little nervous. - Oh, don't be. You've been on the one FC podcast all the time. - Yeah, that's why I'm always nervous. - Oh, I never noticed. - He just said, now I'm noticing. Don't scratch my walls. And I was just like, can someone come and help me right now because I was a little nervous? First day at work. - Is that the story? - Sorry. - You tell a really poor story. - Sorry. - Well, I'm hoping the Virginia Lee one is different because the way he sold it to me and everything else. - It was a suspense in that story. I wasn't even at the edge. Depple was really good surprisingly, by the way. I didn't think Depple would be that good of a movie. Sidebar. - Sorry. - Oh. - No, I thought that would be a really good story. It was bad. So Depple was the opposite of that. - Your story sucked too. - Yeah, on the podcast, yeah. I'm a on the live podcast, yeah, that was horrible. Thanks, John. - Shut it. - All right, go ahead. - All right, so background on YNAF's team, they tend to poke fun at you about not being able to lose your Virginia Lee. Is that correct? - I lost it very late in life. - When did you lose your Virginia Lee? - When I was 25. - You are now how old, 28, 28. Okay, so three years ago. - Yeah. - A little bit of time. Why do you think it took you that long? - Nervousness? - I'm not going with girls. - Okay. - Shocker. (laughing) No, I'm joking. - Yeah, don't let it, I'm fucking serious. - I'm just serious. - All right, so it takes you 25 years. Can you paint the picture of the night where you met this woman? - Yes. - And what happened? - We were at a co-worker's birthday. - Okay. - We were so close. - Love a hip hop. - Okay. - We were supposed to go to another-- - We found out whose birthday it was. - Someone in the accounting department. - Oh, so no, no, no, no one that people would-- - Oh, no, no, no, no, no one people would-- - All right, got it, got it. - And-- - Personal in your check. - Yeah, exactly. - The way they were paying. (laughing) - We were going to another bar to meet up. This girl lived two blocks away and said, "Oh, come to my place first." - I love when the hoes initiated. - It is. - It was-- - Was there any conversation prior to this though, like were you guys talking at the party? - No, me. - She just said, "Come to my crew." - No, I was, we were with a group. We were gonna go, my friends from home came in and they were like, "Oh, we'll drive over there." It said, "We can fit one more person." She was like, "Oh, I live two blocks away. "Let's come to my place first and we'll meet them." - All right. - So, we're there, we're in the car, and she was like rubbing my leg a little. I'm like, "I don't even know you." - Hey. - Also, she's like, quiet, shy little girl who never even spoke to me before. - Well, you probably didn't speak to her very often either. - No, I did. - Oh, I'm a lot more upbeat. I'm just really nervous right now. - Okay. - Why? - You were upbeat during blazas. That's why I was-- - Wow. - That's why I'm confused now. - Why is there a great conversation in Irving Plaza? - Because I was really drunk at Irving Plaza. - Well, why also when you're not drunk, you're normally nervous? - Depends on whom around. - You're around none of us matter in the grand scheme of your life. - I don't know. Whenever I have like a microphone or a camera in my face, I get a little nervous. You get, you just need to keep anything back up in front. - I know. - I know. - We won't, I know. - I know, I know, I know. - My fucking stupid logic anyway. - Yeah. - So she's rubbing on your leg. - Like a real bitch. - And we're walking to her apartment and my friends go, this is gonna happen tonight. We're leaving you here. And I was like, I didn't live in the city at the time. - Did they leave you with any advice? - Nothing, they just said, go with it. - Okay. - They real. - So we're at-- - Are you intoxicated? - Yeah, I'm really drunk. - Okay. - Oh, damn. - So we go to the, her apartment, we have like a beer. We go to the bar. No one shows up. - We've got a bar in our apartment. - No, that went to the bar. - Oh, okay. - No one showed up. They took the wrong train. - Hey. - I go to the bathroom and come back. My friends are gone. So I'm like, oh. - I don't. - I'm like, okay. My friends are gone. What do you wanna do? She was like, let's go back to my apartment. So at this point, I'm like, this point I'm really drunk and I'm like, holy shit. Like, I'm not sure if that's the right thing to do right now. - I'm pretty late. Just, I'm gonna make sure you get home safe and I'm gonna head out, man. I've gotta wake up pretty early, babe. - No. - There was no going home that night. I didn't live in the city. - Real nigga, where did you live? - Westchester. - Okay. - Yeah. - That's close enough for you. - Yeah, but you can still lie. - You're in. - I gotta stay with you. - Yeah. So we got to our apartment. I went to the bathroom like, holy shit. This is about to happen. - I did the same thing when I go home. - Did you, did you look at yourself in the mirror when you said that? - No. - I did. (laughing) - I gave myself that. - You're another part of the segment. - Oh. - Yeah, we'll do you another time. Post. Go ahead. - So I walk into her bedroom, she's naked. I'm like, oh shit. She goes, so you're just gonna keep staring at my vag in my tits or you're gonna fuck me and I was like, oh fuck it. - And you nutted right there. - That fucking hang great. She couldn't even be sensitive to the situation. - So. - Jesus, women. - So my nervous drunken self goes, can I be honest with you? I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. (laughing) - Are you real? - Yeah. - I'm real. Was she attractive? What did her naked body look like? - She had a good body. - I don't know. - She had, she was like, was she prepared for this? - Or was there a lot of ghost waiting there? - Oh no, oh no. She was prepared. - Oh okay. - All right. - And she went, what do you mean? And I went, I don't know what I'm doing. And she went, oh, you're a virgin? All right, let's fucking do this then. So she got more turned on to the fact that you were a virgin. - Yeah, I am now a virgin too. (laughing) - Really? - Yeah. - I didn't know that. Wait, that working out here? - Apparently so. - Wait a minute. You told the girl that she was a virgin, and she said, "All right, let's do this." - That's fresh. - But I'm telling you, women are heathens. They are, they say that we're the heathens, it's really them. Great, all right, so this is a great story so far. By the way, you're doing a fantastic job. - No, you are doing great. - Much better than that fuck-ass story that you told before. - We can edit that part. - No, no, leave it. You can take it out. - Whoa. - Whoa. - All right. - Just go ahead. - All right, so I put the condom on. - Wait. - Huh? (laughing) - It's waiting! - What? - It's waiting! - I'm going to take this gun Mark. - This guy. - Hey, what did he do? - He put the condom on. - Fuck it. - What? - Go ahead. - Oh, thanks. - The condom on. - And like, for backstory, this podcast isn't a big condom place. - We don't even know what it is. - What is that? - I keep hearing that they exist. - It's a stuff you put on hamburgers, not adults. - It changes pretty quickly. (laughing) - I wonder why they're talking about catching my mother in shit during sex stories. - Yeah. - Like, go with something. - There's a cakey shit. - All right, so yeah. - They're migrants. - It changed really quickly though. - All right, so you put a condom on. - Yeah. - At that point, now this, they may sound like I'm being funny, but I am not. 'Cause when I was a virgin, I had no idea how to put a condom on, how to take it off, how to open it smoothly, how to undo a bra. I did a lot of things real awkward as a virgin. I'm sure you did too. So was that an issue at all? - A little bit. A little difficult. - 'Cause they don't really show that part in the pornos. - Well, she's kind of a dick because she made them feel comfortable with the, yeah, let's do this. It didn't even help them out. - See now the bitch I lost my shit with. She put that, you know what? She opened that shit with her mouth and rolled it on with her mouth. (laughing) (laughing) - Twitter, can you find her so we can get her on this podcast? - Oh, you know, 'cause she wasn't the best of lookers event. So I can imagine what 20 years has done to her. (laughing) - Well go ahead. - And she fucked up 14 year old you. So I'm sure she wasn't going down the right path. All right, go on. - I was like at 14, I think. I just didn't know what I was doing at all, but unlike this gentleman here, I wasn't about to tell her I know what I was doing. She had to find out on her own, but go ahead. - So we were making out a little bit. We're about to start. - Well, you put a condom on and then kiss her. - Well, she's, before I could even like finish, started making out with me, so it was like her name. - She real. - 'Cause she didn't want you to put that condom on. - Oh, sorry. - When? - Then-- - Did you write me Instagram? - I-- - We'll talk later. - Yeah, we'll talk. - Go ahead. - She's going to be the artwork. - That's a joke. - Yeah. - She's going to be the company. This is going to be my house game. All right, no go ahead, depending on how the story ends. Go ahead. - Making out a little bit. Then she like started to blow me. I was like, oh, okay. And then she was like, I hate this. And she rips the condom off. And I'm like, fuck, I only have one condom. - Oh, so she was sucking your dick with the condom? - Yeah. - And then she ripped it off. I never understood that. - You never get it. - She said I hate this shit. And I'm like, fuck, I only have one condom. - Well, I've never systemed dick, but I could imagine it probably wouldn't be pleasant with the condom on. We're going. And then she did that. Then we started having sex. I was like, holy shit. And she starts literally ripping, like pulling into my legs, like with her nails to the point that I had bruises and broken blood vessels. And at what position is she doing this at? - Fagging. (laughing) - Let me a dick. - She's sitting there giving this guy to best experience his life. And he wanted to tell us about his fucking blood vessels. - Well, it was, I thought it was funny. - I thought it was a nail blood vessels. All right, so she's fucking, she's ruining your fucking skin. You're skin, great. - And I was like, it was like dead silent. And I was like, can we put on some music or something? 'Cause like she took up, she like stopped for a few minutes. And she was like, yeah, sure. I'll put something on. And she put on the movie, "The Bride of Chucky." - Yeah, which, yeah. I thought that was funny too. I was like, what the fuck? - No, I'm just speechless. - No, no, no. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You said two implying that we thought it was funny. No one laughed. Well, she doesn't count. She's a virgin too. (laughing) But the "Bride of Chucky," interesting movie choice, I was hoping to have some round sound. I've seen that movie. - And at one point, she stopped and went, wait, this is my favorite part. And I was just like, where the fuck am I? - How many minutes are we in at this? - Are you hard right during this movie? - No. - Because, no, for real, because she has stepped away for a little bit. Put a movie on. There's no condom on now. Your dick is just not, wait, what you're drunk though. - Yeah, I'm really drunk. Like almost black out, but not black out. - But he a virgin. When I was a virgin, I was just in math class hard. I'm not losing that. When this bitch about to put on Chucky and the condom off. - When I was a virgin, I didn't really understand why my dick was doing that. It was uncomfortable. - Well, okay. - You poor guy. - I mean, how do we know if a girl don't come teach us? - All right, continue. Then she went-- - Then she got the popcorn. We watched the wrist and we were all right, my bad. - We had sex. It wasn't amazing 'cause I was fucked up. I was a little nervous, obviously. I don't think it was 'cause you were fucked up, but go on. - And then we started making out again and she was like-- - Wait, the sex was finished and you made out again. - Yeah, well, yeah, she started making out with me. And then she goes, "Can I smother you with the pillows?" Some people like that and I went, "No, you can't." - I'm actually one of the people that does indeed like to be smothered with the pillow. And I'm serious. I'm not joking. I'd rather look at pitch black and face death than have to stare at you. - Time for women, are you fucking? - Bitches that I don't want to look at. (laughing) - Jesus Christ. (laughing) - Hey, bitch, how's it? - No, no, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. I'm after this, so I'll always use a joke. - Yeah. - Go ahead. - No. - So you didn't want to get to tell us some other with the pillow. - No. - Guess not. - So you said no. - Yeah, I said no. - And she said-- - Said, she was like, "All right, whatever." And then she fucking passed out. - It just sounded like the greatest story ever. - I don't think-- - It literally just passed out. - I don't think his storytelling skills are amazing, but I'm visual enough to say this is an amazing story. - I got the short version at Irving Plaza. I got, I lost my virginity at 25 to a dominatrix chick. And I said, "Oh, you're coming on the podcast." - How old was she? 27? - And this was three years ago. - Yeah. - Oh, so she's 30 now. She done learned mad tricks. (laughing) - Yo, that bitch. If she was doing the smothering pillow, bride and chucky and the instant instantaneous passout, would you? What do you think she's gonna do for a real nigga like me? Oh my God. That bitch might get the shot gun out. - Do you mind if I shoot you in your kneecap? - Bitch, I'm a real ass nigga. I don't even need kneecaps. I don't need these. Fuck you talking about bitch, it's the show. Fuck. Now we have no way of locating this woman. - Yeah, are you still in contact with it? Did you exchange with her? - I don't think she, I don't think she actually went on for like a month and a half. - Oh. - Oh, that may not jump to your movements. Wait a minute. So she called you back. - Well, I want to know how the exit plan worked, but I wanted to know that before I found out that she continued on fucking her. But what was that exit plan like? - I was like, she wanted to smother you, then said, all right, passed out. You are now staring at the ceiling, divergentized. What are your thoughts here? - I was like, this wasn't as big of a hype as everyone was telling me. Number one. - Same thing I said after. - Because I was so stressed about it for however long because of Peter and Cypher. - Like they are the two guys who get the greatest pussy. Let me just say that Peter Rosenberg and Cypher Sounds never seen either one of them with a vagina I'd like to enter. - Save Pete 'cause he's married. So let's not do that. And I just did his wife's podcast and she's an amazing woman. - Cypher is an amazing woman. - Hey. - Oh. - With a child. (laughing) - Foot my mouth. (laughing) - Not speaking about their wives, before that. - In part of my face. (laughing) - Yeah, before these gentlemen were married to these amazing women. I don't think these two is the guys, to come and talk to about pussy that you should and should not give up. - What is that? - Well, they told me it isn't as big of a deal as it's gonna be, but they also were putting pressure on me being like, hey, if you don't do this by the time you turn 26, we're just gonna buy you a hooker. So I was like, I need to get this shit done. - Well no, that's called a friend. Be clear, if you are a virgin at 26 years old, it is your friend's obligation to get you a hooker. That's what hookers are there for. - That's what they wanted to do when they first met me. - Yo, Joe. - We get hookers now. - I'm about to be 26 in May and I haven't fucked a girl. Will you think you can give me a hooker, bro? - I know some pretty cool. I know some pretty cool. I need to FaceTime a bit. - All right. - Just forget it. - All right, so what is the text message conversations like the following day? You run out of there? No, I, oh, you coddle, do you stay? I stayed over and had sex again the next day. And I was sober and it was fucking amazing. - No, okay, yeah. Did she fucking try to kill you then? - No, but she did bite my lips so hard that I started bleeding everywhere. - Oh, that's standard. - No, and she said, and she thought it was hot. - That's standard. - I was like, what the fuck? - I'm not tired of him bleeding. Like, sorry, my nigga. - I thought that was funny. - Yeah, everyone else thought it was funny. - You just keep bleeding. Your blood message with your fucking mouth. Like, just put some band-aids somewhere in your fucking pocket so you can stop bleeding. - Every second this guy is bleeding. And then she kissed me and then blood just poured from everywhere. - At the bride and chug is too much blood shed everywhere. - Well, that's the joke. - It was her thing. - I just, listen, I'm off of the story. I'm trying to locate the woman. Like, I don't want to hear them. Where is she? I heard enough to want to find her. Don't try to hold her hostage like Drake knew his holds. I want to see. - You can see. - Just not right now. - So you do still, can you contact with her? - No, that's how you fucked her. - Oh, you know her Instagram? - Facebook, Facebook, Facebook, she's Facebook. She even nasty her, she have Facebook. - I don't know anything about Facebook calls. - That's where the real hoes are. Like, nasty, freaky ones, yeah. - But Facebook is with the checkbox, right? Single, taken, all that shit. - Yeah, anybody pay attention to that anymore. - They're complicated. - You found the old hoes. - How do you-- - They just want to fuck. - All right. - On Facebook. - All right, pardon my ignorance. How do you fuck women from Facebook? - You can instead, not Insta, you can DM them. There's an inbox. You can private message them. - Explain to me what does DM stand for? - Direct message. - Wait, there's that feature on these social networking sites? - They invented it. MySpace, Facebook, did that shit away before? - Where? - In Instagram. - All right, whoa, culture shock. - Holy shit. - Are you telling me there's a way to speak, to have conversations with women privately and no one else know. - There's a feature to hit their inbox and there's also a chat on the side that's private. You could do the in-time like, aim shit. - Well, that seems like such a great idea. It would seem like Twitter and Instagram should integrate a DM service. - I mean, they have one. - Like, why don't they have one? - Wait a minute, wait. You know what, Rory, you're pulling my leg. - Yeah, you had no idea. - And that's telling me you can DM women on Twitter and Instagram. - You can? - To talk private, but why would you want to talk privately with strange women? - If you want to send, I don't know, your debit card to possibly, or maybe a plane ticket, maybe a PayPal. - Maybe on the app that I have, the DM feature's not there. - No, those don't work. - I've never seen it. I've never-- - What app do you use? - This shit right here. - Is that a Christian mingle app? - No, it's not a Christian mingle app. This shit right here is called fucking Snap App. - Mm. - It's a quick freestyle. - Yeah. - What do we do? - I was reading Snapchat and trying to freestyle some shit. It just came out really bad. I told you I had a lot of my mind, man. But I personally have never seen that DM feature. I've never used it, nor would I want strange women in my fucking private area. - You know what you can do with Instagram? They can send you a private picture that the rest of the world can't see. - Well, I would not want a private picture that the rest of the world can't see. - You should open the DM feature and find out. - Oh, so let me tell you something real quick. Let me just jump off of our little joke and we're gonna get off of here. But, so I recently got a Samsung Edge. Dick videos with that phone is are just different now. - Do you send those via a private message or do you just put those out to the world since you don't know? - No, I just beat my dick a lot. - And then just watch it. - And no, no, no, no, no, no. And all the rave and about this phone is it has an amazing camera. So, because I know that there will be a time that I'm gonna need to send my dick to a beautiful woman, I needed to test it out. Because on the iPhone, the reverse camera is the worst shit in the world. How did we make it to seven generations of six generations? What is this, the six S6 Plus, whatever the fuck? We had a lot of generations of iPhones and the back camera is still a piece of shit. But I will never leave iPhone because I love the fact that all of the shit is accessible and interchangeable and you know, the laptop and the phone or the other shit. But that motherfucking ad six, right? I had some parts of my dick. I didn't even know it was there. - Where? (laughing) - Let's just get out of here. Wait, our sleeper picks. Sleep or song, sleep or song, sleep or song, sleep or song, sleep or song, sleep or song, sleep or song, sleep or song, sleep or song. So, last week, if you missed this podcast and I'm gonna fuck out of here because I'm hungry and I want to go to Melbourne's and eat. Last week, we introduced a new segment, Sleep or Songs, right? And I went with Ro James, Rory went with Jesse Boykins. And a lot of y'all liked that segment. - I got a lot of sweets about it. - Yeah, a lot of them, a lot of them. So, today, while Rory searches 'cause here's another week where he's unprepared. - I'm good to go. I was waiting on you. - I know, I know, I know, I know. I am gonna go with, I'm gonna cheat a little bit. I'm gonna cheat. 'Cause the song I'm gonna pick is really short. So, I'm gonna pick another song too. And they both are from Eric Bellinger. Eric Bellinger put out a new project the other day. And I don't know the name of it. I forgot, I just got it yesterday. But, the song is called "Mood". And I've been listening to it ever since. "Mood" and right after that, 'cause that's only two minutes and 30 seconds. Right after that, and it sounds like a whole song is plush, plush. I'm gonna tell you right now, hold on. I wanna say plush velvet, but I know that's wrong. So, I'm not gonna say that. Here it is right here, plush duvet. Eric Bellinger moved directly into Eric Bellinger plush duvet. Song is so amazing, I tweeted the niggin' said dog. This moochit has to be extended and he sent me the stem. So now, I have the great responsibility of trying to extend this amazing record. I don't wanna put my voice on anything amazing. That's somebody else's that I enjoy. Like, I don't wanna do that. But, listen to those records. Great, great, great records. - Well, since you stole Eric Bellinger, I was gonna do an Eric Bellinger song, but I won't. People seem to like the Jesse Boykin's Neil Soul stuff. So, I will go with my probably favorite song ever. Foreign Exchange Daykeeper, last time I told people where to listen to the Jesse Boykin's song, so I'm gonna tell them where to listen to Foreign Exchange. Listen to it, right when you wake up in the morning, it'll put you in a wonderful zen-like mood on your morning commute, morning walk, whatever it is that you do. Foreign Exchange Daykeeper. - Then why aren't you listening to that song? Well, I've never seen you in a zen-like mood ever. - Well, 'cause you see me in the afternoon and I'm already, the world has put me through the wringer by then. My meds have kicked off, I'm horrible then. - We would ask you to pick a fucking sleeper song, but you just lost your Virginia three years ago, so none of you say better. - The bride of Chuckie soundtrack. (laughing) That is in bed of my brain. - Mercy, I wanna thank our virgin guest. - He's not a virgin anymore. - And he stills a virgin. Because when you lose your Virginia, that kinda don't count today. - Have you fucked a different girl since? - Yeah. - Oh, hey, he's out here. - How many though? - Two. - He's a virgin. - Yeah. - He's a poor guy. - They love and don't much work. - You might wanna still get that hooker. (laughing) - Not for real. A hooker changed life. - Hookers are great to talk to. - Yeah, nothing I love more than talking about my feelings with hookers. - They have so much experience in so many walks of life. - And they have so many feelings. - Yeah. - They got a lot of feelings about shit. They be beating me down in my room. (laughing) - Talk. - Who says that? - We need Marissa back. (laughing) - This people are either going to love this episode or think it was the worst thing to ever do. - I wouldn't give a fuck what y'all think about this fucker. - All right, why don't you? All right, so we're gonna get out of here. Well, let me just say I really enjoyed this podcast. - I did do. - We shouldn't do podcast without Marissa. - I love Marissa. - Me too. - But-- - Jen, I tried to tell her how to make it work, but she was just like, "Yeah, I'm just gonna go." I'm just saying, me and you together is just bad, bad, bad. Hopefully no one got offended if you did, so what? And that's it. We will see you guys or not see you guys. We will talk to you guys next week. - Am I here next week? - I'm not here next week. - Oh, you're in Texas? - Yep. - You should plug since you do the programming. - Wait, I'm gonna be in Texas. - Houston is one of our biggest markets, so I'd probably talk to them. 'Cause we are my payment, and I'm gonna talk about my feelings in Houston with wonderful people. All right, so real quick, so I'm going to Houston and Fort Worth and-- - Dallas. - I'm going to Dallas. - San Antonio. - I'm going to San Antonio. I'm going to New Orleans. I'm going all those places and performing this weekend. It starts this Thursday is what I'm doing. So I'll post on Instagram and on Twitter all the dates and tick 'em as all that bullshit, right? So me and Rory will be taping for you next week. We're going to have all of the bitches, because we got to interview the bitches. - Of course. - Have to interview him for work-- - Beyonce is from there. - Oh, shout out to Beyonce. Be hard. - We are out of here. Thank our guests. Thank our silent partners and silent guests. Shout out to Marisa. We are not going to forget about you being absent, and we're going to talk about that next week, about why you were absent. I want to thank Michael Rourke. I want to thank our engineer, and I'm starving, so I'm getting the fuck out of here. One. [BLANK_AUDIO]