The Joe Budden Podcast
I'll Name This Podcast Later Episode 40
In Joe's absence, due to the "All Love Lost Tour", we brought in friends of the show; Lowkey, Scottie Beam, and Gia to discuss courting, condoms, nudes, etc. After 40 weeks of speaking about him, Ty Dolla Sign joins the podcast to discuss his album "Free TC" and him and Mari's friendship/fandom.
- All right, that was my definition of Joe Buddens. All right, before Joe Budden is not with us today, it is me and Mari Munro, unfortunately, but I brought some friends along with me, friend of the show, lowkey from youheardthatnew.com and beats one radio. Anyways, fucking up Lowe's intro. Lowe, how are you? - I'm glad, babe. - Can you stop chewing? - Yeah, are you? Aren't you a radio personality now? - I eat chicken on beats all the time. - Okay. - No, you don't. You're a liar. - You're never there. - You're a liar. - Other women talking now is Deontie Digital from Hot 97, who you may remember from our R&B. Oh, I forgot, you guys all have these fucking nicknames. You may remember her from our R&B podcast where we didn't actually put out the brackets. - Yeah. - But we're gonna blame that on her. - Thanks. - You guys also may know her on Twitter as the girl that never texted back. - Yo, her phone's here, you never texted me back. - I text everybody back. - Seriously, open your phone right now. How many unread texts do it? - Watch, you're gonna feel it. - Because you deleted them all? - No, look at this, look at this. 26. - 26, I read from what? The last hour? - Unread today. - Right, so why haven't you checked my back? - 26, unread today. - Oh no, not today. - It's two o'clock. - It's two o'clock. - Like this week, I like to clear them out. - Son, you letting those shit just sit there? - Yes. - Damn. - Sometimes I don't wanna respond, that's okay. - And my red receipts are on, so I just don't want them to see it. - Yeah, you're a savage. - Yeah, I'll get back like four days later. That's like my max, I tried not to pass for you. - Don't understand how petty that shit sounds. - It's not even petty, it's just like, I literally don't feel like talking or thinking about you or anything to do with you, so when I'm mentally prepared to talk to you, I'll get to you. - Yeah, what have you turned into? - What do you mean? - I don't like it. - All right, but we also have one more introduction. - Yeah. - Marty, you're a co-host. You can do intros too. - Okay, well, you started the fucking intro. - I actually hope it was you introduced me to-- - Wow. - Oh, okay, well this is Gia Pepper's, she is major. (laughs) - Wow, that was proper. - Major is one of my worst intro moments. - Gia, what do you mean? - Do the resume. - What do you do, Gia? - Hit it up. - And get a little closer to Mike Luce. - Right, thank you. - And I mean that in a nonsexual way? - Of course. - Unless you wanna do it. - My mom was calm. - Was it a joke? - Chillin, we all friends here, family. I'm honor personality and content creator, work with Marisa for BlameyBro.com, and I'm the Washington Wizards Inarina co-host. - Yeah, you were. - You work with the other friend of the show, Rodney-- - Rodney. - Rodney Ricker. - Who knows, the people that went to the High Line Ballroom show for the All Love Lost Tour know that Rodney just randomly ended up hosting. I walked out of the bathroom, and Rodney was on stage with a microphone hosting during Austin set. - In New York? - Yeah, High Line Ballroom. You were there. - That's it, I was there, but I was-- - Telling you. - No, I was sober too, I don't know where I was. - Oh my God. - Anyways, I did want to bring Lo on today to fill in for Joe, just because he started a bit of a ruckus on the internet, as he usually does-- - Let's clarify that. Let's clarify that, I didn't start it. - What is your at name so people can at you? - Lo-key UHTN. - Which is-- - Lo-key, you heard that now. - You heard that now. - Yes, it's not a hate. - It's not a venereal disease, no, okay. Just double checking. - All right, this is what we're gonna do? - Cool. - I'm joking. - All right. - Anyways, so Lo was on the internet yesterday. - Yes, as I already did. - Starting this courting discussion. Lo, do you mind giving a bit of a backstory of how you started this and your thoughts? - Well, to clarify, I didn't start, I chimed in Nigel D, had started it, and I guess the topic of discussion was sending or asking for pics and getting receiving pics. And my thought process, well, his thought process was if a girl doesn't send him a pic or if a girl posts on Instagram and whatever, he's deleting the number or he just has a problem with them not sending a pic when he asks for it. I think that's what it was. - And what was your reply? - My reply to that was if you're courting a girl, there's no reason to be asking for pics that early in the process. - Exactly, and it's creepy. - Thank you, oh my gosh. - Now, but there's different stipulations to it. Now, if you're just fucking this girl and you guys know what it is, asking for pics is probably not a bad thing. - Can you be fucking encoding at the same time? - No. - Can we define courting first? - I don't want it. - No, I don't think you can. - Yes, you can. - It ruins the entire process. - Nope, no, it doesn't. I've come from the first night, we've been in a full blown relationship three weeks later and lasted for two years, so that doesn't make it. - Mm, that doesn't sound much like a cork. - What? (laughter) - I was, yeah, that wasn't a cork. - What's the definition to courting to you? - I mean, courting is-- - And then we'll get to Deani because we know she's has a very strong opinion about everything in the entire world. - No, I don't! - Courting is pretty much like the step-by-step process of getting to know somebody in the proper manner. You go on dates, you phone calls, not always just texting. - Yeah. - Little conversations like, hey, I've been thinking about you today or, you know, little gifts here in LA, I thought about you, this would be nice. You know, little shit like that, but it increases the knowledge of the person that you're trying to get to know. - Okay. - Step-by-step-by-step. - And this ends when you start fucking. - This ends when it becomes exclusive. - So you have to court all the way to a-- - You should be courting while you're still in a relationship. - So I've been courting-- - I mean, well, no, like, yes, but you're courting to get to a familiar place where it's not just courting anymore. Now you guys are in a relationship or you guys are consistently seeing each other. - Oh, so I've been on and off-courtin' bitches for like five years. - You do that a lot. - That's untrue. - All right, Deani, what's your definition of courting? - No, courting is simple to me, it's dating. I don't necessarily think that once you start having sex, it automatically goes away and then you guys are something else, I think you can date until you guys are ready to take that next step into a relationship. Courting is going out, you know, going on dates and talking and getting to know each other and knowing each other. And once you know each other, you do more fun things and doing stuff like that. - Fuck. - Like, and fuck, like, fucking is cool. - Fucking is awesome and you can do that. - We know. - All right. - We know fucking is cool, we know. - That's crazy. - Yeah, we are. - Yeah, but it's simple. You guys make it so ridiculously complex. - Wait, wait, wait, wait. - No, I'm just saying guys in general, people in general make it so hard. Like, it's just courting, chill out. - So the process is easy, but women, some women, do make it a fucking task force to get to know you. Like, it's really like trying to break into Fort Knox. - Well, yeah, you've been alive for how long? I mean, you have to get to know that person from the beginning to where they are now, right? - That's true. - But take a minute. - No, it does, but again, baggage from other bullshit always gets in the way. - Yeah, but-- - It always gets in the way. Like, oh, I've seen this before. We make one mistake, I've seen this before. I don't like how he acts like this. I don't like how he acts in front of his friends. I don't like when he's on Twitter. Like, that type of stuff. - What about communicating, then? - Yeah, it's like we've lost the ability to communicate with each other. - And this is-- - Go back to zero. - Yeah. - It's so mind-blowing. - That's very real. I think because social media and the way we were having this conversation this morning, the way that text messaging, you don't know someone. Someone can literally say, "Yo, what the fuck is up with you?" And then you can take it as, "What the fuck is up with you?" - Right, right. - And you can be upset or you can take it as, "Oh, what's up with y'all?" - What the fuck is up? - You don't know how he talks because you haven't talked to him. So that's why I feel like you need to get on the phone. Texting should be a means to an end. Text me in the beginning to say, "Let's meet up at six o'clock so we can do happy hour "because we don't want to spend that much money. "We don't know each other yet. "Let's do happy hour, coffee or something and meet up "so we can get to see each other, "know each other face to face." So then I know you're not cursing me out when you're saying, "What the fuck is up?" You just want to know. - What the fuck is up? - What the fuck is up? 'Cause I talk like that. - It's interesting you say that because I'm courting someone right now and-- - I talk right now at this moment. - At this moment. - Nice. - Oh, God. - And multitask. - So she was like, you know, she was like, "Call me in the morning." Say her name, snitchiness. - I'm not saying her. - At her dad. - She's like, "Call me in the morning." So I was like, "I had radio the next morning." So I was like, "All right, got to the station." She doesn't wake up to like 10 or 11 o'clock. So I text her and we're talking-- - Did she have a job? - Yes, she does, but I'm not going to reveal what she does. - She's trying, you really try. - I'm just trying to pry up. - She's working at a Starless on Wednesday. - There it is. - So she says in so many words in the text, she's like, "Is this what you mean by calling?" Like, she got upset. She was like, "This is not what I meant by, when I told you to call me." I was like, "I meant you to call." And I was like, "Yeah." - And say what? - She wanted to talk. - I like talking. - Is it not like a conversation right? - Is that important, Marie? Like, to you. - Talking to a woman. - Talking on the phone, like having a conversation every day. - Yeah, no, no, no. It's not every day, but she asked me to call her. I took it as, "Oh, like, you know, just hit you the next day." - Oh, okay. Okay, so you didn't know that because you don't know her. - Yeah, but she meant-- - Call me. - And that just goes to show how important it is to get on the phone with somebody. - It really is, like, you guys, remember in high school we used to get on the phone? - Yes. - And you're probably still-- - High school. - Hey, but you're probably still friends with that person that you were on the phone with for six months before you even really, really got to know each other. - You don't do that anymore. - But you don't do that anymore. My best friends are from high school and we used to stay on the phone all the time. Like, I know that. - I work all day, I wake up super early. When I come home, the last thing on my mind is let me get on the phone-- - Right. - And have more mentally draining conversation. - With the other person. - Here's a thing. - Okay, here's the thing, here's the thing, here's the thing. We're not, I'm not talking about having a consistent, long, drawn out conversation on the phone every day, every morning, whatever. There's times where you want to hear someone's voice and you want to hear how they're doing and you want to hear the infliction in their voices or something wrong. Do you want to talk, do you want to meet up? You can't gaze that on a text message. - You really can't. - Right? Can you? - Emojis. - Yeah, maybe, but that's, you know-- - That's so much. I'm much more of a meet up type of person. I'm a quick after work, grab a drink, do an activity type of person because, again, on the phone, I cannot keep that shit up against my ear, have those headphones in my ear where I have all fucking day to have people talk to me. - Yeah. - But in that same respect, I also don't text all day. So it's very difficult to get to know me at this stage in my life and I sound like a fucking Twitter honey when I say that. - Oh, you sound very guarded right now. (laughs) - No, I'm not going to. - Is there something you want to know? - No, I'm actually one of the more open people and I really don't mind even telling a strange woman, not my deepest, darkest secrets, but I'll reveal that. And I think women take that and they're not used to that, so they're thinking I'm much more interested than I really am. - Mm-hmm. - And then the next day comes, I'm not saying we fucked, but the next day comes and I'm not quick to text. A week pass, I'm very dry in text messages, I'm not calling, I'm maybe meet up with them and I think that's where I get misconstrued in this courting process. So maybe you got to switch up your strategy, your structure, your domestic structure. - I should try to fuck the first night, huh? - I mean, when you do that anyway, so it, you know. - Oh, yeah, it's very untrue. - Do you believe in courting Marissa? - I don't know. - Marissa, can you be a part of this podcast, please? - I'm here, I don't really, I haven't been-- - Marissa recorded before-- - Have you been courted? - Have you been courted before? - Yeah, I mean my ex, it was cool, we dated and it was cute and stuff. (laughing) - And now, so my-- - This sound like a fucking rapper. - I joined the dating app recently, so I'm like-- - Wait, you signed up for dating it? - Yes, I know, I told them I'm not dropping the name until they got a check, so I-- - Okay, that's fair. - The name of the app, all right, let's-- But I really did join it and I've been talking to three people, but then one asked me what kind of competition he has and I was like, "Get the fuck out of my--" - Does it rhyme with a winner? - Does it rhyme with a winner? - That sounds so corny. - Like, who am I up against? - Yeah, like do we just, literally, I just gave you my number, like how fucking, and he was like, "Well, you're in the entertainment industry." I'm like, "Stop right there." - No, no, no, no, no, that's the equivalent of when girls say you probably got all the hoes. - Yeah. - Which is a bit more irritating than y'all think. Like, we don't find that funny. - That is kind of like-- - I say that all the time. - Why do y'all say that, though? - Yeah, but he was dead serious and we kind of just joke around just to get it like a fill of the climate. Like, he was dead ass like, "Yo, what am I up against?" Like, "Dude, why are you worried?" - Oh, he's insecure. - Yeah, and that's why I don't want no insecurity going. Because especially it's the beginning. - You heard that shot? - Like, I would never ask a guy that because it's like, if it's that early in the game, like, it doesn't matter who the other girls are. 'Cause we're still getting to know each other and I'm confident in myself enough to know if we're the right fit then in a few weeks or a few months those girls aren't gonna matter anyway. So it should be the same thing with you. - I do know, however, when I'm in a process of dating somewhere according to someone, I know I'm not the only one. - Right, and you should never be. - I know I'm not the only one. - That's fucking weird, especially in the very beginning. I mean, I guess the conversation could come into play when you guys are starting to have sex, whatever, maybe because of the whole health thing, whatever, but like, even that down. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I do ask that because I don't use condoms, so I do actually ask that. - That's not even something to do. - Are you serious? - He's very adamant about saying that, oh my God. - Or are you joking? - No, I'm dead ass. - What does that even mean? I need you to explain to me. - I'm not allowed to be in the debate or you just didn't remember. - No, no, she seemed, no, no. Jia, you definitely are. She just seemed so repugged as she would say. - I was taking a back 'cause I couldn't even, what do you mean you don't use condoms? - At this point in my life, I don't stick my dick in anything that walks. - And stop at this point in my life for 25 years old, stop. - Yeah, at 25, I don't stick my dick in anything that walks, so. - Wait, you stopped using condoms at 25 or how long has this been? - Uh, past two years. - Okay, wow, 23. - And what do you ask? Like, what do you ask them, hey, are you messing with anybody because I don't use condoms? Or, like, have you got tested? Can I see the test results? Do you ask for the test results? - Absolutely. - Okay, I'm very mature, that's really mature. - That's mature, but it's still sketchy. - But how long does it take for you to have sex with somebody? Like, do you-- - Oh, well, not a very. - Like a three-month-time-- - That'll certainly certainly vary. I don't have, I mean, I'm not Steve Harvey. I don't put a fucking time in on my dick. - You ain't thinking like I'm gonna do that. (laughing) - But in the same respect, Dionny, do you, oh, fuck. - Yes, what happened? - All right, Maddie's excited. - We were in the heated condom debate, by the way. - Oh, by the way, so you guys should always get tested. Every single year, at least get one time a year. - I just said the same thing. - Plan Parenthood offers-- - You said once a year? - Yeah, at least. I get, people get annual checkups. I sometimes I get buying them. Even if I'm not having sex, I'm so fucking paranoid. HIV is literally the biggest fear in the entire world. - Whereas for Charlie Sheen, and I say, I'm not saying that condescendingly. - Plan Parenthood offers it. They go on a sliding scale based on your income. I went there and I said I make $400 a month. They don't even check. - Oh, no, say you were a college student. That's what I was doing. - Or you could do that too, yeah. And you could pay $20 for the AIDS test. It's 20 minutes. You sit there, they give you results right there. It's really scary, they're always gonna close the door and have you sit down and make you think that you have AIDS. And then you sit down, they're like, you're clean. And they're like, why don't you tell me what the fucking door open, you fucking bitch. Like literally your life flashes behind your eyes. - The ghost, the pussy pass. - Yes. - And ladies go to the gynecologist. - Yes, there's this girl. - This isn't a fucking good podcast. - Oh no, but it's very important. And I feel like people joke so much about not using condoms. Babies are the least of, like you're worried at that point sometimes, I mean, at the least of. That's very also a big issue. But HIV, you cannot fucking get rid of that. Like, there's nothing we can do. - Just please. - STDs, all of them, they're not fun. Like no one wants any of that stuff. So please get questions. - There's also places in your neighborhood where you can go for free. Google is your friend, it's better to know because you can begin getting treated earlier and you can live a much longer life if you know early on and you need the disposal to your partners, fuck you Rory, get tested. That was amazing, Maddie. - So with that said, Deane, you use condoms, correct? - Absolutely. - The last partner you had, I'm not going to ask when or who it was, but did you guys use condoms? - Yes. - Did you give this gentleman a head? (laughing) - What kind of Rory? - I'm asking, I'm asking, there's a point to this. I'm not just trying to dig into your sexuality. - Sure, yeah. - Okay, and is your mouth STD-proof? - No. - So you'll let him enter you in the mouth, but not inside your vagina. That requires a condom. - Yes, that does make sense. - This is where I don't understand what people look at me crazy when I say I don't use condoms. - Wow, that was insane. - 'Cause I do the same shit with dudes. - That's my moment. - Yeah, 'cause it is so much less likely to transmit a disease through oral sex than it is through. But it still can happen. It definitely can happen, but it is a way less likelihood. So, I'm still used to using condoms. - Thank you, Mottie, for that. - No problem. (laughing) - That's just, yeah, I know, that's true. That's very true. - So. - I never even thought of that. - Me neither. - And pregnancy, he still happens when you do. He doesn't, but he said he doesn't mind. He doesn't mind that. - You don't mind. - You're a plunking idiot, Rory. - Who I stick my dick in now? - He doesn't mind. - Cool? - So. - Yeah, you guys missed the whole me having kids thing. - Cool. - But let's double back, 'cause we actually got on a tangent. The courting thing was, we started with a picture. We even got to that. - Yeah. - Something. - Was Nigel talking about nudes or a picture? - No, a picture. - I think a picture. I don't think it was nudes. - Like of your actual face? - Or like just something nice, I guess? - I'm guessing. But my question is, when is a good time? Like, when do you feel like that's a good time? Like, it's a good time to ask. - Here, okay, and so here's the thing. It's how you ask. It's not when it's a good time to how you ask. So say she's like, oh, I'm getting dressed. You know, I'm about to go out with my girls. - That's cute. - I'd be like, let me see. - I'd be like, let me see. - I'd be like, let me see. - Yes. - Right? - That's cute. - Not send me a picture. Like, send me a picture. It's too much of a sexual comment. - Just so weird. - Yeah, and you always think they're asking for a nude. - Right. - And it's like all my regular self, because right now I might be in the house with no fucking makeup on looking nuts. Like, all my cute pictures on Instagram go on them. So like, if a girl tells me to go on Instagram, I'm going to start sending chicks to my Instagram, man. - Not a piece of meat. - Just ask for pictures. - When has a woman ever asked you for a picture? - Women asked me for pics. - Yeah, they asked me for a picture. - Really? - Yeah. - How are y'all dating? - No, I'm sorry. - It's like, not dick pics. Like, not dick pictures. Like, hoes. Let me see. - No, but here's the thing. - Here's the thing. We women, we are born with a certain DNA strand that we do research like automatically. So we've already seen your Instagram, Facebook, Twitter. We know who you already talked to. We know who's in your comments. We don't know the DMs, because that's hopefully the girls and that's smart to hack your profile. But still, I see your pictures, and by that time I've already sent it out to my friends. - No, you see. - It's possible, babe. And we making it work. - Exactly. - You see our Instagram and come to a bunch of conclusions with no evidence. - No, no, no. - No, if we're just going through the Instagram and we're like, he tried to approach me. We're talking, it's cute right now. You shouldn't make assumptions yet because you don't really know that person, right? Hopefully you're so enamored with how good they look on Instagram, and we're just talking about like the, the let people know. - Y'all will research on Twitter and start putting shit together. Like, you talked to that bitch last week and she's always in your shit on Tuesday. Who is this? - So personally, I don't follow anyone that I like. I cannot follow anyone that I like. - We gotta stop doing that too. - I don't, it's just smart. - I do or don't, but I still go stalk anyway, so it's like, it doesn't even matter what I want. - I really don't give a shit. - I don't care. - I stalk for my friends. - Yeah, if I don't, I hate when girls do that. - I'm not as good at it. - Don't send your friends. - I'm not as good as stalking for my friends because I'm not as well as invested, so my investigative skills just aren't like, it's just, it's not inside of me. Like, I just don't care enough, so it doesn't work. - I only have two friends that I would do it for, but. - Do you stalk? - No, I'm not interested in anyone's Instagram, social media, Twitter, at all. - I know I'm in this song right there. - I want nothing to do with it. That's their personal business. If I follow it again, they say it's funny, I'll laugh. - Yeah, dig, no, but women really do that. - Do you stalk? - Do your friends take these relationships? - Yeah, there was too many. Do I stalk? - Yeah, like social media accounts. - Yeah, I mean, Instagram, because I wanna see what's going on, so I'll probably scroll and be like, when's the last time you put up a picture of you and your old girl or whoever it is and then how long it was? But I'm not gonna bring it up to him and be like, so, 102 weeks ago, you was with her and this is what happened. No, I'm not gonna do that. But I'm a person, I'm just gonna know, I'm keeping it in my mind. - I was in LA this weekend and the young lady asked me, she was like, so is she a girlfriend? And I'm thinking a lot of women really ask that question, 'cause they see one or two girls, but she said she always saw her. - Is this the women you're recording now? - No. - You gonna fly her up? - No, I'm definitely not quoting her anymore. - How involved are your friends in your talking, courting process? Let's start with the women, 'cause we know it's a lot. - What's the question, what do you mean? - How involved are your friends? - I know, when I'm getting courted by another man? - Yeah. - Like how much do I share with them? - Yeah, exactly. - They're pretty much every step of the way. - Are they watching him? - Nah, because they know I'm, it's-- - Are they replying for you in text messages? - No, I'm the mastermind behind everyone else's text in my group, because I'm the writer. - So you guys go in the group chat and explain certain situations? - I actually only help when they need sexual things to write, 'cause they're not good at sex thing, and I'm pretty much pretty great at that. - Oh, then I need to text you. (laughing) - That's so, but I never really need them for any, although sometimes when someone's really pushing my buttons and I'm arguing from the fish pot in the summertime, I had a, one of my home girls guiding me, I'm like, dude, I'm gonna fucking curse him out, what do I say, what do I say? And she was helping me write calm, calculated answers so that I wouldn't go crazy. And then she stopped answering for like 10 minutes, and that's when I went fucking ape shit and said some things I regret, so. (groaning) - Jeez. I don't really regret it, 'cause I don't, but you know-- - I witnessed this in LA this past weekend. - When there's a lot of stuff in LA. - I know, yeah, I know. - I'm gonna be there tomorrow with Joey, you guys should come out. - Okay. - When I was in LA, we always have a young woman staying with us. - Right. - By the name of Ravi B, who we all love dearly. - Ravi, what's up? - It does the pictures at Henny Palooza. - No, I always thought it was Ravi. Man, I know her name's Raven. - No, it's Raven. - In my head it was always Ravi. - And she was on FaceTime with her friend. - Oh, that was when we woke up at the first morning. - Who was trying to get this guy to come over to fuck her, and Raven is coaching her through the entire FaceTime, and I was amazed at that this is really what women do. Like, she was sitting there typing like, all right, what do I say now? Okay, all right, what angle should I do the new that? This is all the FaceTime. - Yeah, I'll be like, do y'all know know know, send the titty picture, nah, nah, nah, the one that you took, yeah, that's the right one, because he seems more like an ass guy, send it that. And then she'll start typing time, like, no, Danielle is not what you said, it is not sexy. Save this, save that, FaceTime him at this time. Yeah, I mean-- - You have the answers. Yeah, 'cause I suck, I suck, I feel violated now. - I'm good, I'm sexy. I'm great at that shit. - I'm heartless, sexy. - Nude is, I can do a nude, nude is easy. I don't have to really write anything and be like, okay. - Anyone can send a nude. You used to like, sex thing has to like, that's the part. - Yo, but my nude, the way I was, the way-- - There's some black ass nudes, I was like. - My one nude fucking ass that turned me around the world. You gotta like send like a good message with the right nude. - Do you guys recycle nudes? Of course. - Yeah. - Oh my God. - That's the specific nude I sent him. I sent to like three people. - Last for me, you cannot do that. - So what happens? - If my nude leaks on the internet, I don't even know the source, but there's so bad people. But I made it, I made it so that my nude is so nice, or my couple that have circulated my system of guys, I won't even be mad because they're all good with me. - And they're cute, right? - I'm not like, it's not like I'm like putting the camera up in my vajean, where it's like, Jesus, she's gross. Like really tasteful, sometimes just one nipple, you know, some boy shorts, mad abstracts. - Marissa, you gotta write like a digital sex book. Like dead ass, 'cause like these points that you're making, like you're really on point with every fucking statement. - Yeah, that's-- - Let me give it to the audience. - Well no, I do not believe in recycling nudes. I think that, you know how much it takes to get the right quality nude? It's like a selfie, it takes a minute. - Yo, it takes a minute. - I appreciate that effort. - And especially like, especially if you ask for a nude one where like we didn't shave that day, it's like, I'm not going to just do all this shit, just to send you some shit. - That's very true. - Like how would y'all feel? - How would you feel if a dude sent you the same dick pic that he sent his dick? - I don't care, it's a dick. I wanna see how your dick looks. - See, but I'm not a fan of dick pics. - I like dicks, but I'm not a fan of unsolicited dick pics. - That, okay, I respect it. - Yeah, like if I like you and we're fucking already, or we're about to fuck, and we're at that point, I'm called a dick pic, I wanna look at it. If I don't like you, if I'm only gonna ever fuck you, and I'm never gonna take you serious, I'm gonna share the dick pic with my girls, like look what I'm about to get. Now I need some motion, I need a video, or something. - See, that's tricky. - See, I need some motion, I can't do the picture. - So you need motion in regards to him doing something? - Yeah, like I need some motion, I can't. - Like a jerk-off video, or the mutual masturbation on FaceTime, always lit. - FaceTime text is so lit, oh my God. - FaceTime text is very, very fucking lit. - No, I fuck with FaceTime text. - FaceTime has to be scheduled. - Yeah, you need to tell me in advance. - If we're already into something, I like the random FaceTime just 'cause it just shows like you wanna see me. - I don't know, I still like that. - I don't know, I still like that. - FaceTime text, you can text me that. - FaceTime now? - Yeah. - Like when we- - Ask me a question, ask me. - When FaceTime's me at any random time of the day, and I'll answer it even if I look fucking nuts and my eyeliner smeared on my face, just 'cause- - But you really like him though, right? - I mean, that's just my dude forever. - I'm in the bin means. - He'll always be around, we fuck other people, we talk about it to each other, but that's always like- - So it's like your side partner? - Like my bestie, my bestie? - BFF would be a bestie. - Bestie would benefit. - Yeah. - Okay, is he? - Yeah. - He's here? - Oh, there he is. - There he is. - His body is crushed. - Oh, my crush. - All right. - Give us a second here, we're gonna get a new guest in here. - Aw man. - Ash, what up? - I've been on some other shit this morning. - Aw man, okay. - All right, so we have, let me try to intro this quickly. We've, how many episodes have we done, Marty? - This is number 40. This is our 40th episode. - Job it worked. - This gentleman here has been a part of all 40 fucking weeks. Nobody has been talked about more on this podcast than this very talented gentleman here. - Oh man, thank you. - A tired dollar sign. - Yay! (clapping) - Thank you all for having me. - Thank you all for having me. One question we got clear up is the line. - No, we already talked about it this morning. - It's not. It's the line about Maria. - It is, it's definitely about me. - He just wants to deny it. - Maria in New York. - Talk about her. - And a worker. - Once baby. (laughing) - Oh, at least he's being nice. - Yeah, definitely. - We already talked about it. - Yep. - I'll just leave it like this. - It's definitely about me, you're Jason. - Okay, our horse is in a stable, hello. (laughing) - Okay. - I also wanna thank you for performing the Henny Palooza with us. - Yeah. - You know, it was a movie. - This past weekend. - People were drunk in there, man. That honey goes up, we appreciate that. - I don't wanna talk about that 'cause I missed it and I'm pissed. - No, he came in there to do a mini concert. - Yeah, I heard. Thank you, everybody. - Turned that shit off, I don't know. - It's fine. I'm gonna be in LA tomorrow though, so. - True. - Yeah. - I'm not gonna be there. - I know. - Yeah, she knows. (laughing) - She knows you're itinerated. (laughing) - Actually, no. - Let's tie, when you met Mottie, what was your first impression? - No, this isn't gonna be about Marissa. - Oh, the dancer is. - What do you think it's gonna be? No, we're gonna get free TC album. Everyone already knows that shit is great. - It is fucking cool. - I went to a listening session. This is amazing. Shout out KWL, shout out Atlantic. - Hey, Taylor, getting a dime. - But we know. - It'll bit you. - He's gonna get all the same questions at every single media outlet, so let's try to make this a bit different so we're not wasting his time. - Okay. - Very respectful. - Again. - I appreciate that. - What was your initial... Do you remember meeting Mottie and/or? - Whoa, yeah. Like Arizona or something? - Yeah, we were in Phoenix, Arizona. - Yeah, Arizona. - Oh, what are you doing at Phoenix? - I wanted to interview you too. - So I came out. - And she interviewed me backstage. And then I seen her again at the next show in some other state. (laughing) - Awesome. - And some other states. - It was so much so much that it was working. - Were you like creeped out or like when she was cool? - I was thinking it was a police or something. - Nah. - But... - I'd just be everywhere, B. - Oh, did you follow behind in the room? - I didn't even know. - Over everywhere. - No, I was at the first concert, I was with M.G.K. in them. So that it was just like off rip. And then the second one, it was South By. My company had an event. And then after that, I don't know. - Here we are. (laughing) - Really not even in New York country. - How did you find out about me? - Well, so... - Oh my God. - No, no, no. So paranoid... - Who put Mottie on? - I put me on. - I was hot a little bit here. And I liked it, but I didn't really pay attention to the record. I went to L.A. for the Grammys. And they were playing that shit like 100 times more than we were. So when I got home, I was like, let me just download this fucking record. I like it. So I downloaded it, but I never really thought about you still. I couldn't tell you if you were a rapper or a singer or whatever. And then I read the XXL that had mustard and YG in it. The article and you had like a little blurb. And I saw the picture of you and I was like, "Oh, he looks like a rapper yet." And then I read the little thing and it was like you're a writer, producer, you play all these instruments. And I'm like, "This guy?" And then it just intrigued me. So I downloaded Beach House 2 and I'm like, "Holy fuck, this shit is amazing." And then I sat with that for like three days. - So these write-ups really work. These in there. - Oh, that shit. Then I downloaded Beach House 1. - That's what people actually read. - And listen though, but like, even from this podcast, you know how many fucking tweets I've gotten? This past weekend, you know, I bought free CC 'cause Marissa just talks about it every fucking week. Fuck you, Rory. - Oh, I'm sorry. I just wanted some background music. (laughing) - No, but yeah, so it does work. - All right, it's enough. (laughing) - So just to clarify, you're not creeped out by any of the shit she's done. - I don't do anything creepy. - I'm sure someone's done some more creepier shit as a fan to tie than Marissa is. - I'm just looking at it. - In front of him, I'm sure. - She's really consistent. - She's sacrificed chickens in her living room. - She's really consistent with this stuff, right? It's just, I mean, it's just somebody, I've always had like fandom in me from like, when I was a kid and I like back sheep boys and shit like that. So I was-- - That's a great comparison. - It's a great comparison. (laughing) - Oh man. - No, I'm just saying, like I've always like been into the whole experience of being a fan. I want to go to the concerts, I want to have the posters, I want to have the music and know all the words and read the album line or notes and all that shit. ♪ I want it ♪ - Exactly, that's what I fucking did. ♪ Tell me why ♪ ♪ And ♪ ♪ That's good but I'm hot ♪ ♪ Exactly ♪ And working in this industry kind of makes you hate everybody. So anyone I was a fan of, I stopped liking them after a certain point because everyone kind of sucks. And then I just found your music and it was dope and you actually happen to be a good person too. So I just-- - Yeah, so I want to ask you a question real quick. It's a little industry but I was watching one of the Diddy Vlogs and you guys were going back and forth. He was just so surprised at how well you sing. - Yeah, I remember that. - He was like, "Why do you rap?" - He doesn't rap. - Yeah, but not rap, but like he just was like, "Why don't you tell him I was a rapper?" - That shit is-- - But then that was our first time working and then he found out I'm really a singer. - Okay. - I wish everybody would stop saying I'm a rapper. You know, there's dope rappers out there. - How about-- - I'll give them some space. - Even in iTunes it says the rapper has his stellar debut. Like, who wrote that? - I don't know what the fuck. - Like, is that a legal thing? - Yeah, it seems like it is. - That's crazy. - I don't know, they just want me to-- I don't know, maybe the hip hop shit is-- - Like, you literally never wrapped a lyric I've never heard you rap anything. - I don't know, maybe just the army section just sucks. Maybe no one goes to it. - So they put me in the hip hop section. Is Chris Brown in the hip hop section? - I mean, sometimes the publications call him a rapper. - At this point he probably-- - So when he fucks up rapper Chris Brown-- - Yeah, they call him a rapper, but-- - Yeah, that's when they do it. - Most people classify him as a singer, but you were hitting fucking principles. - He was singing for sure, but I don't think anybody ever goes to the R&B-- - But he actually raps too, which is the funnier part. You have never fucking rap. - That's true. - Question again, how the fuck did you pull off a baby face collaboration? - Magic, man, you know I got magical powers, man. - Shout out to Sean Barron too. - Yeah, shout out to Sean Barron. - I'm a huge James Fonteroy and Brandy fan. - Yeah, me too, man. - How did that come together because it's weird? Like, the collaboration I would love have to sing of them actually singing together, not just James writing for her, was to hear them together on hook. - Yeah, Brandy's always been one of the dopest female seniors, Fonteroy, one of the dopest male seniors. And like, when I did with my whole album, I wasn't chipping off like what everybody else is doing and going to get the features to everybody else. It goes and gets, you know, I got Brandy, Fonteroy, Jackie Des, Art Kelly, baby face, you feel me? And I just wanted to make some good music with good textures. I also got the homegirl Tiffany Gucci, who's also amazing. - Yeah, she's super dope. - Tish. - But then you can't do like really bounce, you had future, you had race summers, you had Diddy, you had Kanye. - I got the singles, I tried song. - And even like with Yay and Puff, we did an inspirational song instead of just doing a single, you know? I wasn't really tripping off of like, you know, getting radio spins this time. Like, we can make those all day and I will continue to make those. But with this, I just wanted to show people that I really make music and I'm not like the regulars, okay? Put me in a different category. - Do you like your more musical records, like, do you kind of prefer them over the radio records? Like, do you feel like you're forced? I mean, I know I'm sure it's probably-- - I'm not forced, like that's cool too. 'Cause like, that's one thing that YG taught me, it's like cool to stay in the studio and like, all right, cool, that's dope, that's some dope music. But like, we also want to dance, we also want to turn it up. So we can make that too, you know? But like, I got to do me. So I gave you Blase, I gave you Only Right, I gave you Saved, and you could turn it up to that. And then everything else, we got to just ride, you know? - Where did Drop that kitty fall into that? - Drop that kitty is not an album. - I know, but I mean, like, how did you feel about it? Stop it, did you stop, did I talk to him? Like, did you, that to me as a fan, didn't feel like a natural record for me. Like, it felt like a forced radio. - It wasn't forced radio, I liked the song. And like, even one of my homies offered me 600K for that song, and I didn't, I didn't, you know, I kept it right now, I put it on. Maybe I, you know, maybe I should have done it. - You probably should have done it. - It's all good, man. - So shout out to Tenaché, who murdered it, shout out, and she's killing it right now everywhere. - She's so dope to me. - And shout out to Charlie XCX, you know, for "Bless Me" with that hook, "Star Gate" for the beat. And, you know, we'll continue to make more songs. But you know, one thing about that song is, that's the song that the ladies love the most, at the concerts, they're like, we want to hear Drop that kitty. - Oh, you used to be performing, yeah. - Yeah, so I'll perform it sometimes, when it's just like, a gang of white girls. - A girl. (laughing) - I saw a picture on your Instagram, you and Usher. - Yeah, that's broken. - What's coming about? - We working, we working. That's broken right there, man. - 'Cause that's an interesting, you know, combination. - And the stuff we're working on is like, it's bigger than just music as well, you know? He sees my same vision, like we're trying to like, do something, you know, with his power. So, you know, coming soon, shout out to Usher. - And considering, since you're, you know, not a rapper, you're a singer, and a lot of joint projects do come out. What rapper out now would you consider doing a complete album with? Or mixed it? - Mm, shit. - Joe Moses, or, you know, Wiz. We already did one, let's talk about it in the morning. - There you go, Johnny. - I guess me and Joe Moses already got one, too. One, who else would be dope? - Fettie. - Yeah, me and Fettie could be hard together. He just got the one with, first, first, first, first. - Oh, a French popazoo. - So, I don't know, I gotta figure it out. What was the recording process like with Kanye? - That was-- - Magic. (laughing) - Magic. Was that recorded around the time of the only one? They do have a bit of a similar melody at some point in that. - Huh? - I did that. - My magic. Magic. (laughing) - You said what? Magic, yeah, magic. - No, no, no, no. Both great records. - Magic. - Yeah, I mean, Mari, I don't know if you have anything else. I know we pulled in a favor for you to get in here. We do appreciate it. - Yo, I went through-- - We don't wanna hold you at the time. - Every single person in your camp, like seven times. - Yeah, and it was Hayden. - Really badly. - Yeah, man, we had to come here. - I went through Will, Kevin, Crespo, Ash, and I think Ash was the one that finally had happened. - Ash, asked the liver today. - Yeah, Ash, Ash. - She asked us that next guy, man. - Shout out to Ash. - Ask him to get the liver. - Ask him to get the liver. - Ask him to get the liver. - Ask him to get the liver. - Like, any new lawyers, any, like, trial sets, anything. - Yeah, it was a new lawyer. - You know, they paid them to look through all the shit and now he's got an investigator. So that was another installment. And we'll see what happens. - Is that shit really, really expensive? - Who gives a fuck? - Okay. - On his family as well. - Right, knowledge of seeing, like, if it's-- - I mean, Nick is going to spend-- - If it's something that you couldn't have done, had you not been in the position that you are today. - It would have just took me way longer, you know? If I had a nine to five, it made way less money, for sure. But I would still, you know? - I mean, of course. - That would probably just be at the point where I could just put something on his books. Like, most people do, you know? Making sure he's good now. I could go a little further. - And it's dope how you had to skits with him. - Right, give him the opportunity to kind of get money, too. Put him on the album and all that stuff. So when he's out, he's-- 'Cause Ebro was telling me this money. I didn't know, when you get out of jail, you actually have to pay taxes and shit for your jail time. - At restitution, yeah. - Right, and then if you can't pay that, they put you back in jail. How the fuck, how are you supposed to pay that shit? - Yeah, and then all the proceeds from the album going to your brother, right? - Yeah, that's what's up. It's a very noble thing. - And you produced a lot of the records on there. So you're getting a lot of publishing. - Can I just grade? - Ladies and gentlemen, tie dollars. - We have one tree out top. - No, no, no. - Leave me alone. - No, leave me alone! - No! - I tried to save you. - When I was younger, when I was like 20, I used to make rap songs just because I had access to free studios and I used to like to hear my voice. - Do you have one of them? - No, I don't have one of them. - Right now, let's hear it. - No! We already played it online. - You need to grade it online. - And you rap right now, and you rap right now. - He's like, he wants to hear it. - It's just four bars. - No, just know a lot about him. - Here goes shit. - Who produced it? - No, I don't know. - I don't know. - I hate to. - She was trying to get a hard non-glide vote. - You're shooting. - It was a feature that I did for someone else. You have to be a cop. - Yeah, shooting, I can help you be a cop. - Oh, I was putting too much money up. - Wait, wait. - When I put my word for me, I'm gonna get you a pen of paper. - Miss Monroe won't teach you what you need. - What you know about the rugby with the patches? - And what you know about having Elvie on the glass. - Flex bar. - And he's at four bars. I'm sure he's going to play more than bars. - Well, the rugby with the passes. (laughing) - You hate it. - Yeah. - There you go. - You got it. - That wasn't bad at all though. - You can't tell me it was a dope moment. - You got a nice rap voice. - I do, and I had better records than that. That was the worst one. - Oh, now you got more records. - I'm gonna sing if we were gonna play a sample of my-- - This whole time, she's had a plan. - No. (laughing) - When I first met Ty, I had to do this before the album. - She's like, all right. - When I first met him, he was always telling me that I look like the type that's gonna say that, like down the road. - Yeah. - No, but I wouldn't. 'Cause I don't rap. - Well, here it is. Surprise. (laughing) - Ty, everybody. - Ty, we don't even do a podcast. This mics aren't even recording. This is just to get a future. (laughing) - Yeah. - No, but don't. Let's never play that again, please. - That was hilarious. - Ty. - You gonna get a song with Beyonce before me? - Oh my God. - Wow. - Thank you so much. - Thank you so much. - We're gonna end here on that mighty Monroe moment. - Oh, baby spades. He's actually good. - Shout-out to baby spades. - He's still rapping. - Spilled. (laughing) - Shout-out baby spades. - Thank you. - He's gonna use that drop too. Watch. - He's a good person. - He's a very nice guy. - I bet he is. Shout-out to him. - He has very good songs. - All right, we're gonna end here, guys. Thank you so much. Thank you, Lou. Thank you, Dean. Thank you, Gia. Thank you, Marty. I guess. And Ty, thank you so much. - Thank you, Ty. Y'all done. 3TC. It's amazing. - Yeah, thank you, sir. If you want to play against me in fantasy football this week, join my league on Fandoor. It's easy. 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