The Joe Budden Podcast
I'll Name This Podcast Later Episode 37
We've been talking about having her on this show since Episode 1, only took 36 weeks lol ... we finally sat with the lovely Amber Rose and talked everything, well, Amber.
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You know, Amber's kind of the part of the reason we're doing this podcast. She is because she was part of the pitch. Yeah, the package deal. When I came to Peter and said, "Yo, I'm thinking about doing a podcast." He said, "I'm friends with Amber Roar's." Oh my God. I can get Amber Roar's as a guest. I mean, I mean, not randomly, just whenever she's in New York. And I said, "All right, Peter. I'm into that." This was in January. Yep. And then Amber Roar's proceeded to come to New York back and forth. A lot of time. Or about. Well, let's ask her. How many times do you think you've been in New York since January? Uh, several different occasions. So 190. Approximately. Yeah. Has anyone, I don't know, that's bold and works at Hot 97 say, "Hey, come on. I'll name this podcast later." You know what? He did mention it. Oh, yeah. She's gonna keep her friend. She's saving it. She's saving it. He did mention it. I know he did. He definitely mentioned it. I feel like it was more so like my team that constantly booked me from hour to hour. And I just couldn't fit you guys in. But even today, me and Marissa were talking and I was just like... Did you just say I couldn't fit you guys in? Well, only because it was a preset. She did the industry cop-out where she blamed her team. But it is not. Yeah. She don't come on with this fucking... Is this your team, by the way? Let the record show. I wanna know who the team is. Is this the team that we're looking at? I see these two gentlemen and this young lady. I'm talking about the management that do my whole schedule. Said fuck them niggas. Man. So you speak of your team. Mm-hmm. I see a man wearing all black and he's bigger than most men. My security, Brian. I would assume that Brian is here to keep you safe from harm. Yes. I see another gentleman sitting down who... He wouldn't even look at me when I shook his hand. I thought he was rather rude, but that's my guy. He's not rude. He just grew to his father. Hey, what's up? Don't worry, I'm an introvert too. I don't like talking to people. And... That's my assistant, Joseph. Oh, hey, Joseph. Wonderful name. Oh, you guys have the same name? You guys have the same name. Wonderful name that you have there. And Duffy is here. Mm-hmm. My baby. Hi, Duffy. Mm-hmm. I'm a little confused by Duffy being here. I'll be honest with you. Speak about it. Why? Duffy. Oh, I don't... DJ Duffy. I wouldn't say that... Oh, I know where's Duffy. I'm just saying. But DJ Duffy. Some people know. DJ Duffy from Dallas. Amazing DJ. Right? Am I right about Dallas? All right. 'Cause I fuck with Duffy from Dallas, but you're in New York. Mm-hmm. Why? Supporting Amber. My book just came out today. It's a very... Oh, it's today. Let's not segue just yet. It's not segue to the book. She's here to plug. She's here to plug. She's good. She's not... She couldn't fit us in before. She's not here to talk. She's here to plug. She's here to plug. It is good, boy. No, I wouldn't fit you guys in, but... But management your team. We know. We know. We know. We know. We're not sensitive. We don't care, but we've been ignored by people before. So, I just automatically assume, 'cause it's instinctual of people to assume when two attractive people are hanging together for absolutely no reason that y'all are fucking. Oh, my gosh. But y'all wouldn't tell me that, anyway. I would so... I would be like y'all. Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit. You would not. I don't think you know me, Joe. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Trust me. I have no one slut on my shirt right now. I would totally tell you if I was fucking... Yeah, but you have flipped the meaning of that. Mm. Yeah, but... I embraced my sexuality. So, I'm very open, and I am not fucking Duffy. She's really just a, like, a sister. She's like a really good friend to me. Well, Amber, I think we need to flip this. How do you know Duffy? 'Cause we have no backstory here. You're accusing them of fucking... How the fuck do y'all know? Oh, me and Duffy have never had sex. I didn't ask that. I just said, "How do you know each other?" Well, you said you're eluded to it. You said you're accusing them of that. I didn't elude anything. I just want to know how y'all know each other. Duffy is good people from Dallas. I didn't... Oh, so why? 'Cause she never came to New York to just randomly support me on release date. And you did not. I came to one of your concerts. Oh, see? Well, I don't know if anyone realized I asked Joe, "How did y'all meet?" And he said, "Duffy's mad cool people." That didn't answer my question. That did not answer the question. Wait, am I on trial here? Yeah. Yeah. We're interviewing Amber. Duffy and I... This guy's good, too. We had a blissful, beautiful, acquaintance ship since we were... Is that a word? No. It is now. Amber. Hello. So, I feel like this is a very bright, slut jersey that you're wearing. But dazzled almost. You have... Like a fettie guy make it? Ducking... Yeah, duck and fettie made it for me. You've flipped the meaning of this word, slut. Mm-hmm. 'Cause slut means slut, but you've changed it. Well, what does slut mean to you? Well, it's relative, it's open to interpretation. My definition is very different from some other people's definition. My definition has a lot to do with decision making, not just sexual acts. That is definitely not what a slut is. What is slut? A slut is a word that men and women use to down women's sexuality or women being comfortable in their sexuality. I have said it on numerous occasions that I have been called a slut, even when I was still a virgin, based off the fact that guys just liked me. You know what I'm saying? That's Eber. What's up, my god. He's such a creep. That chauvinistic piece of shit. Oh, great. Eber was here. Hi. It's funny. We were actually just speaking about you. That's why they told me to come. Can we... Oh, yeah. She and Mike with Mottie. Can we have Homie Court real quick? I think we need to have Homie Court. We haven't had Homie Court in a while. Now, I want to let the listeners know Eber is highly intelligent, quick, witty, and articulates himself. Don't try to solve. Don't try to solve. Especially under pressure. He's a male chauvinist. Am I? But he's... Yes. Now, Eber, Amber is not the first person to have called you a male chauvinist. Yeah. No, I'm judgmental, for sure. Toward females. No, Tomy. Homie. Homie Court is in the session. Listen, Amber and I, I think we have a great relationship with this shit I don't agree with. That's it. That's Homie Court music. I thought that was my phone. That's my ringtone. You can't play like that. Yeah, but you don't, you, you, if a guy was to do it, you wouldn't say anything. Absolutely, I would. No, you wouldn't. If a guy was to do what? Do whatever. Whatever the fuck. I feel like... Oh, and some shit is corny, it's corny. I feel like when it comes to women... Nah, you got the wrong guy for that. Wait, 'cause she has to finish her sentence, Eber. She can't speak over you. You were saying? I, I feel like when it comes to women, you may get a bit intimidated by our sexuality and confidence. Oh, that's bullshit. Intimidated by your sexuality and confidence? Yeah. Eber, I'll speak to that, please. Um, is that true? If that's your impression, I can't, there's nothing I can do about that. I don't feel that. That's not what I feel. Well, wait, there's something you could do about that. You could come off differently. Well... I just want to know why people feel that way about it. Well, and a lot of it is because if I take issue with something, right, I'm gonna be vocal about it, right? Whether it's rapper and I don't like your song or I don't like what's in your song, Joe Button. I've been very vocal with shit I don't like about him or shit I think that he's done as corny or whether it's a, I don't know, I'm trying to think of another male issue, whether it's police officers, whether it's politicians, I don't have a problem speaking of my mind, right? If they're male, if they're female, whatever. The only issue you and I have ever had is slut walk. We've never had an issue before. No, not necessarily, but I do feel like outside of the studio, we can be BFFs, but inside the studio. And Joe made a valid point earlier, or I'm sorry, what's your name? Rory. Rory. I'm sorry, Rory. He made a valid point earlier that you do have a job to do. That's not what it's about. But I do understand that. It's not, it wasn't about a job. It was when the last time I saw you, we was hanging out and I was smoking weed with your assistants. We was chilling, right? What was I talking to you about? Hey, I was talking to you about how as a woman, right? You need to change your circumstances. This is my, and your surroundings. But that's the thing, as a woman, I don't need to do shit. I'm a human being. I was just trying to help you have better successful relationships and you seem to be okay with the dialogue at the time. I feel you. So you can do whatever you want. But this is all I'm saying, right? I was just trying to help out. It's the reason why I'm doing this. The reason why I'm doing a slug walk is to not, to not have things like that being said. That's the whole point. It's not as a woman. I need to be doing anything as a human being fine. But it's now, it's always like a double standard and that's it. If you was a man, I would say as a man, like I do to some men up here who are not having successful relationships, you may want to change the people you're hanging around. I think you just happened to be a woman. So as a woman, you were talking to me about not being able to find men that you could take seriously. That's what the conversation was. But I think that's what she's taking. I was like, well, maybe you want to get out the club and get into environments where you can find men who also take themselves seriously. Okay. That's fine. I understand what you're saying. But that's insinuating that I'm in the club. Well, that's what I know you from. You don't know me from that. You're implying that. I only know you from the radio station and being out. I understand that, but that was never said. That was never said, like, I'm in the club every night looking for guys. That was never said. That's something that you just insinuated that I possibly do because you're assuming what my life is like. Okay. Because you happen to be with rappers a lot. That's what you happen to be around a lot in six years in six years. I was married. Okay. For four. Okay. I dated the first one for two years. All right. What is a lot? That's my whole fucking point. I'm 32 years old. Joe buttons around strippers a lot. That's not true. It's not true. I'm with Amber on this one. I'm with Amber on this one. People, people know my life. They don't know what I do. They don't know what I'm saying. Okay. I don't know. I don't know. It is a soul. I don't know. That Joe button is with strippers. Shit about either one of y'all that deeply. Well, you know, I know I know what everyone else knows, whatever's in social media and whatever's on the blogs. I don't know what y'all doing your personal lives. I base it off the information I have. If that's wrong, I'm comfortable being wrong. You're not going to get me to cosign and be cool with slut walk. What you're going to get from me is what you're going to get from me, right? As somebody because I like you and I think you're a great person. What you're going to get from me is I don't like this, but I do understand where people are judgmental and you would like for them to stop judging you like you're being promiscuous. I'm with it. I'm for it. That's how I feel about me. But you're promiscuous. I'm not. I mean, real. But I'm but I'm but I think Rory can attest to me not being promiscuous. He's not me often enough. I'm not promiscuous at all, but I'd maybe cause Rory's there. You can't really. He's a deal. He's blocking. Oh, no. Nine and a half times. Joe is actually blogging. Yeah. Nine and a half times out of ten. I'm the guy that's not trying to fuck. I'm actually turning pussy away. But to get back on track, I think, Ebro, what Amber and Joe is saying here, you're giving advice on their personal life, but also admitting that you don't know anything about it. Yeah. So that's kind of a juxtaposition. But you're not that different. Because you can't give advice to someone's personal life while also admitting that I don't know anything about your personal life. No, I thought I knew and they'll tell me I don't. So that's fine with me. Listen, I can talk to you three anytime because y'all in New York, I'd rather talk to Amber for a second here. You broke game and took over my phone. No, they told me to come in here. Yeah. They told me to come in. Am I done? Are we done with him? Yes. I don't guilt. He basically, right? I would say so. Yeah, he's guilty as shit. All right. I'm going to show my guy though. I'm going to show him. I'm going to show him. I'm talking to my bitches if I said you're a chauvinist. Yeah. Because it's certain shit I ain't tolerating. I'm going to fuck. Yeah. He's scared too though. No, no, no, no, but it's a valid beef, though, to be one way on air and one way off. It's visually, you're beautiful. I've always said it. I'm like, Ebro's fine as fuck, right? What's that? Hold on. Listen. And I know and I see your-- She's like a piece of meat. Your heart, I see your heart also because me and you have had conversations. I do feel like you're a really nice person. I also feel like society has built you up to look at women in a certain way. That's not necessarily your fault, but-- I'll say society has built me up to look at people who behave in certain ways, whether it's a person with a Confederate flag that I'm going to assume you're a racist because you have a Confederate flag or someone who dresses a certain way I may pass judgment. I'm human. I'm going to pass judgment based on my experiences, right? But maybe try not to. I try. Yeah, that's all. I'm usually right, though. Yeah, I try to practice not passing judgment, and I give that advice as well. Like I walked into an interview yesterday and the guy looked super stuffy and he was in like a suit and he just looked like he was going to really give me an attitude and be like a piece of shit. And it was actually the best interview I did all day and the prejudgment in my head was so fucked up, but to understand, as a human, you get that. But I try my best to not pass judgment on people, especially vocally or out loud or try to hurt people's feelings without fully knowing the backstory of who they are. Yeah, you did hurt my feelings. What's your feelings today? By saying what exactly? I don't know what I'm talking about. Once that breath comes, let me just say this out there for the listeners. Once that breath comes, what's following that is she don't really want to talk. I experience that very often in my personal life where I'm ready for a conversation in the breath. Because you're so promiscuous. I kind of knew that she wouldn't be viscosity that your show. But now, listen, you guys raised a very interesting point here and we are going to get to the slut walk. So what is a slut? You think there is no... I told you what a slut is not. No, no, no. I said a slut is a word that people use to down women's sexuality. So you don't believe that there is a slut, period? I mean, this is this is a situation, right? When you say promiscuous, which I never said, no, no, no, I'm saying in general, people in general, right? When you say someone is promiscuous, right, as a human, as a human being do what's promiscuous for a woman and what's promiscuous for a man. It's double standards, right? So a promiscuous woman could be 10 guys in her lifetime. A promiscuous man is 1,000, 2,000 women. Men also get praised for that. Women get down for it. We're not allowed to be, not saying that we're not allowed to be, but we really get judged for being sexual beings and embracing our bodies and doing whatever the fuck we want. You know, it's just, that's, that's, go ahead. I'm not sure that you guys face a judgment that men don't face. I mean, granted, I'm having a mature conversation. I'm not talking about kids and boys and their beliefs, but one, there is a double standard because you guys bear children. You guys are made differently. You guys are just looked at differently. That's why the terminology ladylike exists. It's not manlike. Ladies are to act a certain way. But there is such work in the gentleman. That's, oh, I agree. That's not gentleman like ladylike is what you hear. But I do think there is a difference between people who really enjoy having sex and people that are sluts. I don't personally use the word slut. Well, I mean, yeah, it's a really white word and the hip-hop hoey, like, thought hoe. Yeah. It's honest. It's the same shit. It's popular these things. But men can be that as well. But, but no. And you guys judge men for behaving that way. But you know that you have a conversation with someone, you're just like, man, I've been with thousands of women. You're fucking cool. If I'm like, yo, I've been with thousands of guys, I'm a disgusting whore. And that's the difference. You know, it's, it's not, I'm not here to promote promiscuity. I'm not here to be like, hey, go out and have sex with a bunch of guys and fucking, you know, like really OD and have one nice dance. That is definitely not my message. That's not my life. I don't do that. Most of the time, realistically, I sleep alone because I work a lot. You know what I'm saying? And I'm also, I'm whatever and I'm also, you know, an advocate for HIV and AIDS awareness. So, you know, it's very important to be careful. Why are you sleeping? You don't have a dog? No. I'm out. Or I sleep with my son. A cat. Who sleeps with a cat? I sleep with my son a lot. My cat used to sleep in my bed. Why is Amber Rose sleeping alone? I sleep alone. Alone with a jade. What a loser. But I just feel like, well, where I sleep with death, you've got to get a cuddle. Oh, what do you know? We're back to the cover over here. Y'all done did something. Y'all ate some carpet. Girls snuggle all the time. You need to find a guy that the cuddle with. You look good. You're not interested. Nothing. So you got nothing. Wait a minute. Platonic cuddling exists. It's just kidding. No, it doesn't. Yes, it does. So you're not interested. I just can't find a guy that I'm interested in. I still love whiz, so it's really hard to like, I've tried to date as you know. And I'm just like, oh my god, they're not whiz. You're not whiz. You're not whiz. You're not whiz. You're not whiz. Is there any hope there? I mean, we're going to be together forever for Sebastian. No, no, no, no. That's politically correct bullshit. She just means. I'm looking for a real answer. Of course, you guys are tearing about. Obviously, love each other, but you know, we went through a lot of shit. You know, going through a public divorce and, you know, just a lot of bullshit. But yeah, we definitely love each other. What if what bullshit you all went through? You're both got messy on Twitter for half a second, then that was the end of that. Yeah. I mean, that was enough though. And the song and all that other shit and like people jumping in and friends and situations. Well, you're talking about the public. I'm sure there was some messy shit behind Twitter. Yeah, exactly. We know so came to fruition 10 times more. Well, I'm rooting for you guys. Well, my thing is perseverance. She clearly after all that they have been through a sitting here saying, I can't find a man and I'm not looking for a man because I am in love with my child's father, which is admirable. So if she's aware of this, why the fuck is she not texting this niggans, but it doesn't just go. You don't just go bad. It just doesn't happen that fast. You know, are you working on that it's we're working on being close friends again. And that's what's most important. And if that leads into something else and it does, if it doesn't, then we know we have a good relationship for our son and our family. That's really the most important thing. But yeah, every time I do try to date a guy or have a snuggle buddy and then it's just like, I don't, I just don't want to take it to the next level. Like I'm just a heartbreaker and I feel like I broke a lot of hearts already throughout this year, like just being single and I'm just like, I don't, you know, I don't want to leave guys on anymore because I'm, they're not, I'm not going to be with them. So, so, all right, that's mature of you. So that says that you have led men on in the past. Um, yeah, but like not on purpose. I kind of came to that realization now. Yeah, I used to do that too. Yeah. Socks man. Yeah. You just feel bad after and you're just like, man, I need to like not do that. So this is probably the only question I will ask in this realm. So would you say James Harden is one of the people you let on? Um, no, cause me and James were just more like friends. Yeah. I mean, we were, we were just more like friends. Like he's like, he's like the party fun guy, like he's just, well, only say that because I saw an interview where you said, yeah, I might fuck him. I did. And I never, and I never actually happened and I knew it. So I guess a fucking man on people online, like she fucked James Harden. Yeah. That never actually happened. That was, but that was a, that was me being mad and just being messy because I was missing my husband and I was like, well, shit, I don't want to fuck him. I'm fucking, um, and it never happened. What was your go to lie when you had to call out of work? Um, guys, it was a long time ago, something tells me you just weren't misperfect attendance. Um, I mean, well, I was a stripper. So I like made my own schedule, stripper still got to call out of work sometime. Not that I hear. I hear. I don't know that. No, I don't know that. I don't know that. I was kind of like really, um, good with showing up and then like coming in on my days off and stuff like that. So anytime I really needed to like not come in, it was always cool. Oh, so you just ran shit. I was, you know, I've, I've always been very sweet to everyone. So they always looked out for me. I don't think I've seen you very often without these shades on. I was just thinking that I don't really take them off. They're from, are they from your line? Yeah. A lot of hurting those eyes. She doesn't want us to look into the windows they're sold. It's true. Okay. I don't know that I keep reading about. I'm forced to ask about a bunch of shit that I don't really care about because I don't like, you know, would not to ask there's, there's, there, don't be a chauvinistic piece of shit. Like, no, I'm not chauvinistic, misogynistic, maybe that was like really bad. Like you wrote, even get it, but I know, but I still want to get back that word, because he does get it. Like I feel like he, he just wants to argue. I don't know. Whatever. He admitted to his fault and I have a big problem when people do that. Like what Ebro just admitted to. Yes. I have a very small sample size of information, but I'm going to be ignorant and base, come to a conclusion based off this little bit of information. He's just like, yo, you're looking for guys in the club and you're always around rappers. I'm like, no, I'm never in the club if I'm only, if I'm in the club, I'm working. I'm hosting. If not, I'm with my kid and to, to married one, it was with the other one for two years and MGK was just like a moment. That's it. What's a moment? I don't think girls get to have moments when I have a moment. What's a moment? A moment is, you know? A moment. I think we're being judged the way that we were together. It was just kind of like, we're seeing where it goes and it didn't work out. And it just so happens that it's in public view. And we never really put that out. The paparazzi just caught us like walking in. And then you quietly separated and it was cool and it didn't, it wasn't. What, are y'all caping right now? What has happened? You know, I was going to camber girls. Yes. How old are you? 32. I just turned 32. You're not sitting here telling me in my face, we didn't put that out. The public just caught us. I saw y'all on red carpets. That's where paparazzi is. I did see them on red carpets on my TV. It was her and MGK and black chime and they were hugged up. They were smiling. That's not paparazzi. Okay. That was like way after all that shit came out. That was way, way after that. And we did not put the, we did not, we were not on the red carpet together at all. Okay. Let me ask you. Well, if you're walking down Broadway in Soho and you obviously know that paparazzis are following you and you guys are holding hands. That wasn't, it wasn't paparazzi. It was people taking pictures and putting it on Instagram. That's paparazzi. People picking paparazzi. People. Well, you know, I mean, you know that's going to happen. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that at all. Yeah. I think you would know at this point. They're saying you can't. After your husband. And walk nowhere without people taking a picture of Amber Rose and whoever they think she's fucking. But at the same time, we didn't know that at that time. We did not know that at that time. We were not in an area of paparazzi area or like it was, it was a very like quiet area. It's not like they were going to crustacean. Yeah. We really stayed away from that shit, but anyway, he was just a moment. That's it. It was very brief. But it was a nice moment. I'm sure it was everybody. He's a nice guy. Just sitting on the other day in Vegas, like everything's all good. Like we're still like, cool. How many moments did somebody get to have before I can call them the whole? No, no. I can never call them a whole. No. They can just have a million moments. But that's the whole point of her message is because she she wanted to date like it wasn't like she's been fucking 40,000 guys and I never said that. So, but why can't why do I mean it's like, oh, I I went through a separation is like, I'm not allowed to date. Right. No, you're not. You're not allowed to date. You're not allowed to fuck. You're not you just got to stay home. Right. I just got to stay home and just be like, fuck you. A nun. You got to be a nun. Yeah. Uh, finally you guys get it. Wonderful. We've only been talking for 20 minutes and I got them to see my point. Yes. You have to be a nun. They have breakup rules. No, they're all right. You got to go through your hair. Yeah. Right. My husband was out with men. I'm not saying your husband's a real nigga that he should be out with mad bitches. We're talking about you and what you should be doing at Wiz and Wiz is a great guy. He is a great guy. We all agree. So now that we've got the none shit out of the way you wanted to say something about you want to go back to the slot thing and you were suggesting that men judge women for their behavior. Yeah. Do you think men get judged for their behavior? Period. I'm not talking about sexually. Um, behavior as far as what though, like specifically where women may get judged for their sexual activity, is a man supposed to act a certain way to be a real man? Is he judged and is that right or wrong? I mean, I don't know. I feel like it needs to be more specific than that. Like as far as like taking your household or if a man is dating a woman that makes more money than him, he expresses his feelings. Whoa. Who does that? Okay. I'm just like, my bad. Get out of here. E-bro. Bigger chauvinist. Um, and he is judged as not a real man. Is that right or wrong? Because she makes more money than him? Yeah. Uh, these are all hypothetical things. I'm not putting my opinion here. No, I don't think that's, um, I think that you should follow your heart. I don't think it should ever be about money. I mean, that's always like the misconception with me. Like they. Well, I'm not saying more financially. I think how a man is supposed to be portrayed in society and how he deals with his women. If he's a real man, if he's a protector, yeah, and he shouldn't have feelings expressing them. He's now a bitch. That's why I don't. I don't, I don't agree with that. Okay. I just wasn't, I just want to see if you were consistent within the outrage of judging people. That's all I wanted to do. Yeah. And double standards and stuff. But I think that's an interpretation too. Well, do you think double standards should exist? No. At all. No. I've noticed with, with this breed, not you, but this new generation of feminists, it seems that women pick and choose the traditions they want to follow within that. Get a Rory. Get her. Get her. She on the ropes now. I mean, you can't, you can't. Don't. No, no, no, I'm not trying to stop you. Don't tell me. My security is standing right here. That's true. You know, honestly, if somebody knocked me out in a mover hat, I'd have to take that out. You would have to take that out first. Really have to take that out. He's really fucking strong. I believe he loves very strong. I don't want no beef. This is just an objective conversation with this lovely young woman sitting across for me. Okay. So go ahead. I've noticed with this, again, to repeat myself. This generation of feminists picks and choose the traditions they want to follow very much where they don't want to be judged for their sexual activity the way men are not. They also want to keep with the man has to pay for the date. The man has to take me out. The man has to provide for my household. And it seems like a lot of inconsistency with their outrage. Got you. Got you now. I don't, I think they're picking and choosing. It's not a personal feminism is not a buffet. You can't just pick and choose the things that you want. It's like a courtable line, equality is the actual definition of it. Absolutely. I agree with you 100%. I feel like that's also a double standard that a lot of women do feel like the man needs to pay for everything. I feel like if you're in love with someone and you're not financially capable of pitching in and they take that up for you, then that's cool, but that's a conversation to be had. I don't necessarily feel as though it should be more of the man or the woman. I think it should be equal. It just seems that that women are now petty fogging. But there's a lot of men. There's a lot of men out there that feel. Is Amber a feminist? Did they? Yeah. She's a. I could be prejudging here, but I would imagine because I've researched the slut walk and it seems that it's carried on by a lot of feminists. It wasn't holds there. They're not. There was some holes at the slut walk. I'm just saying they was there. Do you mean holes like as some holes you like to fuck or like their literal hoes? Well, ho is a term of endearment or are you saying it like saying it was a girl? Oh, so he's saying it was my body is my temple, so I don't think I don't behave that way. But from what I hear from what you hear, if you were looking at me, some bitches that don't care about being permission, hey, it's not necessarily their message at all. I was there with video. See, you guys can see my fucking side. Right now. I want to engage. No. Listen. So what happened? Tell me about the show. What was it? It was a rumored reality show. It was a rumor that I never said that black China never said we never said it. They pulled it out of their fucking asses. And it just was never happening. We never filmed anything. We never didn't you say something in an interview like you'll have to wait and see or something like that. Like you alluded to. Yeah. But that's I'm an actress. I just you know, so like I've I've been acting I've done blackish, blackish is coming out. They just wrote me into four more episodes. It's great show. Oh, congrats. Yeah. Thank you. So like, you know, I have things in the works. So when they say, oh, we see, you know, you might be having a show and I'm like, sweet and see. It's like, oh, a reality show. And then I'm like, why don't want to I don't want to say no, it's not a reality show because then you're going to know it's something else. And it is something else that I'm doing that's not blackish, but they're like the show got canceled. And I'm like, there was never a reality show anyway. So it was just like the fucking home and I hate the internet. So annoying. Put your gift in a curse. What's your go to cleaning utensil? The Clorox wipes. Oh my god. Those are had been. The Clorox wipes are really good. Yeah. I have to hide them for my cleaning. So when you get, you got a cleaning lady? Oh, yeah. I hate cleaning. Oh, what do you get? How much are you getting paid? We got to talk to you. What a slut. So you wake up to clean your house on a Sunday morning. What are you listening to? Oh, I, well, whiz, not like Anita, probably like Anita Baker. Mmm. What's your favorite Anita? So, um, probably, uh, I don't know that this girl all wrong, like 365 days. Okay. That's probably one of my favorites. Get out of town. What the fuck do you know about Anita Baker? I mean, I grew up in Philly and I grew up with like a K birdie and mom. Hey, this is the shit I grew up on. Four types, you know, Philly is very soulful. So, um, I actually just had like a soulful R&B birthday party at my house. And everybody just- None of us were invited. Thank you. No, well, I live in L.A. We have, we have each other's number now. I live in L.A. Well, Mottie gets, uh, fly out, offers all the time. I'm tired. We could have rode with her. Yeah. We, we, we could have went through. But yeah, I DJed it myself, um, via my phone, but Duffy was there and I just did like a whole, um- You didn't DJ, DJ Duffy? I know. What is that about? Duffy is around Amber, not DJing, and they're not fucking- Mm-hmm. They just keep tweeting each other heart, uh, heart I emojis. But it wasn't, I don't know how to DJ, like, Duffy, I like, I just did it from my phone. Like, it's a- A large collection of R&B and I was very impressed. Thanks, though. Oh, she thinks she got you on toe to toe. Nah, she could even- I was about to say- You don't know if we're the R&B God. You don't know. I don't know. That's what they told me at the party. Because I was like, yeah, I'm about to start DJing some straight R&B. They're like, yo, no shit. Like, all my friends and shit, like, Brandon, and they're just like, whatever. And I was just hitting them with hit after hit and like, throwback and boom, boom, boom. And it was like, oh, shit, yeah, you got it. And we was like just singing at the top of our lines, it was so much fun. We had- I had a bunch of Roscoe's ordered. And we was just eating Roscoe's and we was singing R&B. It was dope. That sounds like a really good time. It was so much fun. Was there any hosting? Word. That's what I wanted to know. I mean, shit, I was ready. I was ready to go. Pretty much. I think with Amber, right? And this is why it just seems like it would be really fun to be cool with you. It seems like Amber would know the host. Yes. Oh my God. That's you. Oh. I would think if you just hit Amber to link up, she would have at least- Well, like you got like a squad of like bad bitches. Oh, bad. Oh, shit. Your definition of bad bitch. Hey, no. Different from ours. No. Let's be clear. Amber is a bad bitch. Well, that is apparent. No one's going to argue. I know. Uh, Lero. You got all bunch of pretty bitches. I'm not. Lovey. Black chime is not attractive to me, in my taste. I get white people like her, but just- I mean, everybody has their own personal preference. I think chime is absolutely gorgeous. No, I think a lot of people- I see why people think she is. Just not my type. No, I mean, she's beautiful, but not my type is a better word for that. How many of these jerseys do you have like this that say slot that are mad, shiny? We're in my assistant's hat. I think he has one. He says, like, bag or something on it. No, it doesn't say, it doesn't say fag, Amber. My other- It just says, Joseph. I think my other assistant has one as his bag owners. Your other assistant. I have two assistants. Why do you have two assistants? Why do you have two assistants? Why does somebody need that much assistance? I'm very, very, very busy. I have a big schedule. Who's your barber? I have a barber. Who? His name is Nick. Hi, Nick. Shout out to Nick. Tell me about this book that's coming. It's came. Yeah, it's out today. Today. Yeah, today. Tell me about it. It's called "How to be a Bad Bitch" and it's a how-to book and I touched lightly on my childhood and how I grew up and I called it "How to be a Bad Bitch" because I just feel like in society today, a well-rounded woman, people will call it a "bad bitch." So I decided to put all my mistakes in there, every mistake that I made, so women don't have to. It's a cute book. I read it over the weekend. How did I know you read it? I was really- I was really- I thought something told me- I actually have autographed copies for you guys. Oh, wow. Thank you. Thank you. For all of us, I am taking a bag. Yep. That is a wonderful gesture. You're welcome. Can I get a slut jersey, too? Yeah, I can get them to make you one. That's a slut? Number one slut? I was going to get one. That's a fag, but- You should get a number one ginger or something. Yeah, but you can't teach all these wholes how to be bad bitches. That's true. You can't get them. That's true. I'm not a bitches. It just ain't got no- But a bad bitch is up for interpretation and it's like- No! H.C. These young women how to be confident in themselves, how to get their finances in order, how to do different things to make their lives a little better. What's a bad bitch by definition? Well, no, because everybody's going to be politically correct. You're a well-rounded woman. But that's the thing, it's just a well-rounded woman. I talk about finances, friendships, sex- You can. Are you telling people to have two assistants to be a bad bitch? I mean, if you get to that level, then you certainly need help. Bad bitch is a mental thing. She teaches them how to get money, how to get their shit together to put themselves in a position to be able to have two assistants in the future. For sure. Well, why do you think bad bitch is accepted and slut is not? She's just going to keep- I don't think- I don't think anything is necessarily accepted. I feel like when you take the power out of it and you just embrace it, no one can hurt you anymore. Like I said, I- Why do you think bad bitch is more accepted now? Then I think slut is- I think it is more accepted now. Mm-hmm. Well, maybe slut will one day be. I don't want to talk about all of this slut-ho-bad bitch because she has shown us the piece of shit. Well, I just don't want to talk about it, I feel like every time we have spoken about Amber, not us, just per se, us, but for the last however many months it's been about. Yeah, I don't want to- Who cares? Tell me what the post-office worker has to do to get some pussy from Amber Rose. What a question. What the fuck? Like, I'm here for the regular niggas. Yeah. That's the one that you want. I like the regular niggas. Amber, Amber, Amber, Amber, Amber, Amber. Amber. Amber. There he is. Don't- Don't PC me. I'm- I'm not. Why don't you bring the fucking UPS? We're going to red carpet and kiss the hug on him. I mean, my whole thing is like, you guys see- I don't put anything out. You guys see what they fucking catch or like a rumor. But they catch a lot. No, it's a rumor. The only thing that they call it was me and MGK. They didn't catch anything else. Give me a minute to think. They didn't. It was always public perception on what they think it is. Why did your role on the show was to catch this stuff? But you know that first one- 'Cause you know, I don't- because you have no kids that catch second of all. It's true though. The James Harden thing. Oh my god. I never mind. I never mind. No, no, the James Harden thing she said in the interview, yeah, I want to fuck him. But she never said that she did and it was going after that. She went to a single fucking game, was spotted at one game. We don't think that she fucked James Harden. Okay, good. So just a little shit like that. I mean, everything else is just all up for interpretation. All right, back to the actual point. The postal worker. Yeah, I want to know what he has to do to get something. I mean, you know, I just really like shivery. I like a really, you know, everyone has a love language. You know that. So like- Everyone has a what? A love language. A love language. So like for- Do you know about love language? No. I'll pull up the test. Oh my god. I'm going to send you the book. It's a book. I have a love language. Can you sign that? Yeah, everyone has a love language, right? Even with my whole. Oh my god. It's what someone can do or what you do to show somebody that you love them they might do. Oh, I got mad love languages. Like someone's might be a verbal thing, like you have to hear like praise and things like that to know that your partner is with you is there for you. Someone else might be gift giving. You have to receive things to know that they are present in a relationship. Right. You'll have different love languages and a couple can have two different ones and think that their partner doesn't really love them or isn't trying when their partner thinks they are because their love language is different. Right. So like- Thank you, Marissa. You're welcome. That was well said. Thanks. You're one of the great jokes with all the series, but go ahead. My problem has always been- I'm still trying to figure out about the poster language. My love language, I would give to my significant other all the time, right? So I like gifts, I like time, and I like sweet words. So like I would give that to my significant other, but their love language would be, you know, me cleaning up or like, I don't know, like rubbing them or something like that or touching them all the time. That's their love language. So I'm giving them all these nice things, but it's not what they necessarily want. So that's when you got to like figure out what they want and then give them that. Has a man ever, I won't get into all my many different love languages, I'm going to keep them to myself. Has a man ever turned down the opportunity to date you because of all that comes with you? To date, you know, everybody wants to date Amber and so they realize what Amber's, what my life is like, you know? And then they get a taste of that and they're just like, oh, I do know. A taste of what? Just a lot. A lot comes with me. A lot of fake rumors, like we just talked about, which is extremely unfortunate because actually that I got to live with and, you know, it's fucked up. And then, you know, and it's like, for example, let's say me and you after this, right? I'm like, yo, I'm hungry, like you want to go downstream and get something to eat, you're like, yo, I'm starving. We get something to eat, we leave all over the internet. It's like, we're together. My stomach is big because I just had a big lunch and now I'm pregnant by you. And blah, blah, blah, blah. Your family's calling you like, yo, we got Amber pregnant. What rest around? Can you have sex? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm assuming, assuming that, like, we've been talking for so long. And you know, now we just went on a date and this is like, we literally just went to eat and I fucking went back to Philly and like, wait, Amber, hold on. Let members of Kate for you. No, I was going to say, Rihanna just did an interview with James Harden. It's like, you guys, you're just similar interview. She was talking about her relationship with Matt, whatever his name was, that played baseball. And she said the same thing. They were in the getting to know each other phase and so they went on like a quick vacation because they're superstars and they could do shit like that. And she felt bad because like, she knew once they got, and they got photographs and she didn't plan on that, which is why they went on the vacation and get to know each other. She knew once that happened that he was going to be subjected to rumors that now they're a couple. And he can't go out and do anything by himself without getting blasted by the Navy that he's cheating on her. He's a dog. He's scum. So he's so accepted to all these things that she didn't necessarily want for him and he didn't realize was going to come with that world. And it just comes with it. And it's not her doing it. He's stupid to think if he doesn't know those things are going to win it. It's just like, well, when can you be normal though, like, when can I just go out to eat with Joe or with whoever the fuck and it's just like a normal like, we're just eating. Well, unfortunately, I mean, I feel you, right? You can't. But like, when do people really realize like, it's not always that deep. Like maybe it was just actually food. Well, like I said, when I first came in and it's just, it's annoying. It's annoying because then I sit here with Ebro and he says, I'm with nothing but rappers constantly and I'm always in the club constantly. And I'm always doing this constantly. And it's just like, that's not my life. Well, Amber, you do know that what people think of you is none of your business, right? I, that's in my book, actually. Oh, shit. That she had that she has here that is out today that we have, we get an autograph. I don't want to say that in my book. How to be a bad bitch. We get an autographed copy of. I do actually want to make one quick point back to the postal worker. I think I know how Amber would date a regular dude. Maybe if they used the product Bevel. Oh, the one and only self shaving system. All right, back to Bevel, the first and only shaving system with for men with courts currently are sensitive skin. Bevel got up the fucking check. I don't even think we got a Bevel check here. Why am I doing two fucking clinically proven to reduce and prevent razor bumps, discoloration and irritation is the reason nine out of ten Bevel customers come back month after month. Go to get Bevel.com G-E-T-B-E-V-E-L dot com, uh, yeah. Our ads are working though. My makeup girl yesterday told me that, um, her man was talking about how he was getting razor bumps. She's like, you should use Bevel and, and, and Amber will talk to you. Right. Amber, close on. Yes. They ain't cut a check. They ain't cut a check. I'm not saying shit till she get a check. I'm not getting no check to me. Just talk about no Bevel. What is the last time that you cried? And did you have your shades on? On my birthday. You cried on your birthday? Were they happy tears? I woke up. Duf was there. I woke up. She was. She was in a bed with me. It was, it was my birthday. Not DJ. Wait, huh? Really? You just said- Amber, Amber, Amber, Amber, Amber, can I allow you to contradict yourself this way in this show? She's early in this show. You slept alone all the time. Now you got somebody in your bed. She lives in Dallas. I live in L.A. So when she's in my, and when she's coming to visit me, she sleeps in a bed with me. She's my friend. It's not weird. It's not a special thing. There's no pull out couch. I mean, yeah, I have guest wedges, but we wind up watching Netflix and like- And chill Netflix and chill. But like, that's exactly- Okay, no, I understand. But hey, let me ask you a quick. Are you into- Do I cry that morning? But are you in a girl? Have you ever been with a girl? Yes, I have. Duffy, have you ever been with a girl? What a coincidence. What? I mean, who knew? But that doesn't mean anything. That doesn't mean anything. It's crazy, right? It doesn't mean anything. She's a girl and you're a straight man. Are y'all fucking? Hell no. That's a false equivalent. No, it's not. If you're talking about- You guys are fine. We're fine. We're fine. We did one time. No, we did not. We did one time. We did. We did. We did. It was right when you moved in and there was no beds in the house. Oh, no. It was head to feet. No, we were next to each other. But we didn't touch each other. Do you feel my dick? You feel my dick? No. Ew, God. Jesus Christ. We don't like- We don't spoon each other. I mean, I have a California king bed. There's enough room for both of us. Watch TV and I woke up that morning to answer your question and I cried because it was my birthday and my son wasn't home and I just had a- I was sad. Yo, there's nothing worse than waking up to a woman crying. Yeah. That's like horrible. What did I miss? So wait. So now, here we go. Now we have the question to come in here. So Duffy is- while she's in New York, you guys have separate hotel rooms of course. No. Two beds? No. You guys got a double? No. No. Maybe they want to say money. I mean, I didn't even think- I didn't even think to ask for a double. What hose? Y'all don't have a double? No. She's going to bed with me. I mean, I'm sure it's a big bed, right? It's not. Mighty, mighty, mighty. We are. I mean, I'm just saying you look very well put together this morning. Duffy looks like she had a- Oh, wow. Yeah. Somebody. I mean, somebody might have a rough night. I'm going to get ready. Huh? No makeup. The hair is a little flowy, collars up on the jacket, pajamas. Listen, I wear pajamas everywhere. You are just- you really want this to be a moment and it's not. What a show. No, I want you and I to be able to have transparency. And in 30- Duffy. In my 35 years on earth, I am able to tell when bullshit is occurring. I don't know. So if you guys, of course you believe in me, listen, in the event that you two, and I don't care, it's one of my business and we're going to get off this, but cuddling is happening. No, we do not- You said- Oh, so no spooning. No, it's not like that. We literally sleep in the same bed. It's not weird. I'm going to bed. Don't talk to me. I'm going to bed. I did say that. I did say that. I said that like 25 times last night because she'll talk my ear off the whole time when I'm falling asleep in the bed. And I'm like, "Dup, shut your fucking mouth." Sounds like y'all a couple. That's what it sounds like to me. She'd be like, "Yeah, so anyway, so like two weeks ago." And then like, "I'm like, sleeping." So both of you are single. No, she's engaged. I got a note. Oh. Is that rock, B? All right, well, hypothetically say she wanted to get something y'all in the same hotel room. Where are you going to go? She's engaged, babe. Hypothetically. I have assistance. I can stay in my securities room, my assistance room. I'll buy another room. It doesn't matter. Wait. You're engaged to a guy? Oh, my God. I thought that was a valid question. Yes. I'm not trying to be a dick. A male. How does he feel about you sleeping in bed with Amber Rose every night? You don't say perfectly fine with it. All right. Those double standards. He knows it ain't nothing. How many men, how many men do you, oh, you could you said earlier, you just don't mislead people that way anymore. I was going to ask you, how many men do you have textual relations with that maybe a textual relations with that maybe are hoping something will flourish and prosper between the two of you where it really will not. As of now, as of right now, none because I don't do that. I don't do that anymore before Bob would probably rotate like four or five Jesus Mary and Joseph. What? Buddy, I didn't say it was a lot. Why do you keep chiming in to save Amber? I don't know. What the fuck. My boo. So four five, I don't think four five is a lot. Yeah, it was about four or five. Um, but yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fucked up. So as a friend of yours or somebody that you just have never viewed that way ever tried to break the barrier and you just had to make it back to them. Um, I'm very uh, open and honest. Like I, I, I never, I guess I give off that energy. Like, please don't ever do that and run the relationship. Like people think like me and Quincy have been having sex for years. Quincy Jones. Quincy Brown. God. Oh. Uh, I thought Quincy Jones too. Wait, you can't say, wait, who's Quincy Brown? Quincy Brown. Any steps on. Yeah. Yeah, but you can't just say Quincy. Quincy Jones is Quincy on Instagram and at Quincy. He has at Quincy. We don't follow him. I think it depends on the age range. Like people might. Isn't that, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I automatically. Wait, who's Abby's your son? That's Quincy. Yeah. Yeah. Quincy Jones. Quincy Brown. Quincy Brown is Albie Shuler's son. I love Albie Shuler. Yeah. Me too. His child. How old is it? And Puffy is his. Okay. So this is, this is the crazy shit. So like Quincy's my best friend, right? Or his dad. And his dad is dating Nick Cannon's mom and Nick Cannon's my manager. So it's just like one big circle. We all really know each other. That's why I don't fuck with L.A. It's too much intertwined in this person knows this person. I can never move to L.A. and I hate the traffic in L.A. But it's great to visit. Yeah. I got, I used to have a lot of holes in L.A. Are you working on something with Eric Andre? No, I did a show though. Oh. Seeing I figured it was fun. Yeah, I did a show. No. We became friends. He's a comedian. He has a show on Comedy Central, Eric Andre. The Eric Andre show. Okay. And they were Woman Crush Wednesdaying and Man Crush Mondaying on Instagram. So I was curious what that could be. No, he's just my friend. That's cool. That's cool. Yeah. What do you older do you use? Dev? I do too. The dove, the dry one. I'm obsessed with it. The dry dove. And that's true. Yeah, women have way better deodorant than we do. No, I'm old. You can use women deodorant. Yeah, you can use the dove. No, I know. Dry spray. I have used women's deodorant before. I just hate guys that smell fruity that's such a turn off to me. Guys that smell fruity. Like, you know that smell like apples or like peach, like they'll use like peach lotion. What about love spell? So I shouldn't have wore my love spell. The official stripper spray. I thought I was doing it. Yeah. That's what I smelled the music. That's my passion. Expo spray. Yeah. I mean, Naira's tweet, like Creed or something, or like, uh, deodor. Amber, no, I'm no wonder she's not fucking with the UPS guy. Do you know how much Creed costs? I do. The UPS guy always. You don't have a bunch of Creed. I'm a custom to a certain lifestyle. You know, I mean, I make a lot of money. I, you know, and I, I will buy that for the UPS guy. That's a humble brag. I'm just saying. It's crazy. I fucking work hard. It's crazy because I work at the post office. That was a so not so humble brag. I won't. I won't fucking settle. I make a lot of money. I'm just saying I would take care of him. I would have the postman have Creed. What compromises are you willing to make in a relationship? I don't know. I mean, what do you mean? So, can a nigga can be broke and fuck with you and you buy me Creed every week? I mean, he has to have ambition. I can't just be with someone that's on the couch, you know, just watching data on the couch. I'm just saying, you know, a guy has to be striving for something bigger and better in his life. So what if, what if I'm extremely attracted to very smart men, if you're extremely smart, you speak well, you're educated, you like documentaries, like that's like my thing. I love that. I'm a really attractive guy. A UPS guy could be all of those things. Yeah, he can. And he can be ambitious. But yes. That's what I'm saying. But I just want to know how long would you purchase him? How long would you be buying him Creed? Like what if he hasn't met his goals in like a year and a year and a half? Are you supporting me? I got to get a bit to make more money to me. How? How much I love him, you know, oh, yeah, she's not with the she's not with the shit. What do you have three deal breakers? Mm. My three deal breakers, I don't know, I don't know. You have to know. I don't know. You just gave, pardon me, you just gave us one turn off extremely fast men that smell like apples. Oh, yeah. But that's like, I mean, that's not a deal breaker. I can like change the way he smells. Oh, so you're one of those women that try to change men? No, that's not true. When I try to change them, I'm just saying this is another option. It's not necessarily changing anybody. I don't know. I don't know a deal breaker. I can't. I don't know. What are the last three shows that you watched on Netflix? Do you watch how to get away with murder? I recently just started watching that. I just watched Henry the eighth documentary and then I started watching tutors after that because I was like really interested in the middle evil times and yeah, those three I guess. So those are go to shows at the moment. Yeah. No homeland, no conical, no scandal, I like scandal a lot. I think the TV I don't really get. I don't really get to watch Netflix or like TV that often. Are you even able to do you even have the time that's required to maintain a successful romantic relationship? No. Honestly, I'll be on it. No, right? No. No, I don't even imagine you would have that much time to fuck. I don't. That's the crazy. Fucking takes time. No action, bro. No, but no, really. It does. It takes up a lot of its time. It's time consuming that that holds have been a distraction, which is all right, all right, I'll stop saying the word holds. Why don't say sluts? Just say girls. But I'm not talking about girls. All right. Fine. All right. Five of the women who lack substance. Yes. There we go. Yes. Why do they lack substance? Y'all going to get me to preaching up in here? No. Just say women. Go ahead. Finish. He just means the ones that he would never be with. That's fine. No, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I could say guys. I'll say guys. I'm not going to say like fucking assholes of the world. Like I'm just going to say guys. Well, you can because there are fucking assholes. Well, maybe I'm more destructive than you are. Oh my God. All right, Joe, go ahead. You made me lose where I was going. I don't remember. You were fucking with hoes is what you last said. No, no. I was trying to say that I don't fuck with hoes. He was saying that sex takes too long. I was saying that holes are a distraction. Yeah. So I try, that's the point I was trying to make before you ruin the welcoming that holes are a distraction. So I kind of try to avoid them. So there's not really much time. I mean, that's how I feel about guys right now is not much time while everyone thinks that I got like these lines for threesomes and orgies just around the corners. Really not much time for that. Agree. I was trying to agree with you. I'm in the same. I'm in the same boat. Yeah, I would assume so. I am. So what tell me what's next for you? Tell me what are some of the things on your vision board. Do you have a vision board? Movies. Movies acting. I really enjoy acting. I see my acting coach a lot. I really take it seriously. I recently got an acting coach as well. I enjoy it. It's fun, right? Really? Yeah. It's fun. It's, it's, when I went on my first audition, I was so scared. And I was just like, I don't know if I could do this, but I was like, you know what? The worst thing they could say is no. And they did. They were just like, you're not a good actress. And then I just kept studying and trying and trying and trying. And then when I went to go do Black-ish and I just fucking murdered that shit, I killed it. I killed it. And then that's why they're writing me into more episodes. Oh, that's great news. How often do you sit with your acting coach? It depends. If I know that I have something coming up, I'm like, it's like every day, like I really try to sit with him and like really execute the character, but like, I don't have a set, I don't have a set schedule because I work a lot. Is your acting coach expensive? She's got a bad money. Actually, he has never charged me. What? Actually he has never charged me. Good shit. Are you paying up the ass, Joey? You know why because, okay, so what happened is he was a writer for Fresh Prince, right? And then he did like a shitload of sitcoms and movies and stuff like that, and he's like a really like main writer for stuff like that, big budget films. And he did the movie Sister Code with me, was a favor to, anyway, that's a long story, but anyway, I ran into him, I met him. We literally like fell in love, like extremely, but like a friendship. No, like a friendly fellow, no, but yeah, but like literally like, he became like Rosenberg. He's like another Rosenberg to me, so, and he's married and everything like that, but Everybody's married and engaged, you know, except for us, too. Yeah, except for me. No, I got a few more months left. I said 2015, I was getting married or engaged. Really? Yeah, I did say that a month. And with my friends giving me all this negative energy, I'm just speaking things into existence. You're going to meet somebody and get engaged in two months. You don't even know if it's right for you. I'm just saying there's more time left in the year. Yeah, to meet the person that you will eventually fall in love with and spend the rest of your life with. I'm still in. And you, could you be monogamous as someone? My middle name is monogamous. It's not. When have I ever cheated? I don't know. Exactly. My middle name is relative. Yeah. All right. Well, I'm a relationship based person. Well, I'll say that. I prefer to be in a relationship. I like to be in a relationship. Yeah. I prefer a relationship. And often with me, what has happened in the past has been where you'll go a long period of time without a relationship. And then you end up, you end up investing in somebody that you really shouldn't be investing in because you're succumbing to maybe being lonely or being lonely or. So you end up with somebody and then when that explodes, you kind of are back in your normal frame of mind like, okay, why did I just do that? You're a serial monogamous, by the way. Yeah, you. Yeah, but you know, it's funny. People say that I'm a serial data. I'm a serial monogamous, but then I'm a hoe. Well, I'm from someone that knows you are saying you're a serial monogamous. I don't think you're a hoe. Well, I've been. I'm going a long time now and I don't want to make this interview about me, but this is probably that I was telling, uh, were you with us last night? No. You were prepping for Amber Rosen. You were prepping for our Amber interview at eight o'clock last night. You guys are making fun of me. They like, she probably helped me out. I'm picked out. I was like, I don't actually. Larissa was very excited. Word. Too excited. Yeah, boo. See that. Loosed. I forgot where I was going again because my memory is really bad. You're a serial monogamous. Oh, I was telling somebody last night that it's actually, I've been single now for about 14 months. That's probably the longest I can remember ever being single. And it feels good. Yeah. It's just a new way of life to get acclimated to. You go girl. Yeah. Two snaps. That was like four. One of that might sound in gay. Oh, no. I just know because this is a judge-free zone and we don't judge women. I thought we were having a moment. We were. We were, Joe. I was there with you. You abandoned me in the moment. You got me all here and I can't -- No, I mean, listen, I, you know, I feel, I feel you. I feel you. And working a lot, it does get like very, very lonely and, you know, to just have like a regular person you meet just come and like snuggle or like make out with someone. It's just, it's an emptiness. How often are you fearful? I heard you speak earlier about going to your first gig and being fearful because it's a new experience. It's not something that you, you know, and also rapping for me is my area of comfort. So I'm never nervous. I'm never afraid. I'm never fearful. However, when you venture outside of that comfort zone, I think fear is something that people in this industry experience a lot, especially women, and we don't really hear very much about it. So I thought that was interesting that you said that. How often are you faced with like that feeling of fear or self-doubt? It's not, I don't necessarily think it's self-doubt. I do get a little nervous with pretty much everything that I do. I mean, even my book coming out, when I had to go do my signing yesterday, I was like shaking, like, you know, it's just like a big deal. You know what I'm saying? But I always push through and finish. That's always like I set a goal for myself, even with the book. The book took me a year. I could have been like, man, I don't feel like fucking doing the shit anymore. But I'm like, you know what? I'm not going to stop until I finish this book. I go on a book tour, I promote it, I do everything I need to do, and I'm fucking done and it's out today. So it's like, you know, I feel, I like to do things like that because even though I'm scared of it, at the end of it all, I feel accomplished. What's your sign? I'm a Libra. Hmm. I could have guessed that. Yeah, I like to feel very accomplished. I like to, even when I start like a difficult hike or something like that in LA. You hike. And I want to do that whole runyon, runyon, cannon, whatever that shit is. I took a couple of different hikes and stuff, but... Did you say that in Canyon? No, it's just every time a woman goes to LA. She always takes a picture. I'm on the 24th. I did it. And I was very proud to do it. Draped and dry fit. Yeah, but you didn't lose no weight. You just went up there and took some pictures. I was still having to eat that. Like people put on these fucking gym clothes, but it's so fake fucking trendy, man. I was exhausted. Karen like ran up the whole mail and I was fucking miles behind her. Yeah, shout out to Karen. I could never live in LA. Wait, let me eavesdrop on what they're saying here. He's saying she's got to get the fuck out. Oh, I got to get out of here too. Me too. I got to take a nap. I probably got to take my car too. I got press. Oh, shit. I got like, I got like 15 more minutes, not that we need this, whatever. You all need to do it. I got like 15 more minutes. What time is it? It's 1253. It's 1253. And your car service supposed to come at 1245. It's not 1245. That's what I told. It's real. Is it 1245? Did the car service call? We'll figure it out. We'll figure it out. Which one of your tattoos are your favorite? I don't know. I don't know. Where's one? I don't know. Where's one? Oh, this one probably actually. What does that say? The world is a vampire. It's a smashing pumpkins lyric. Smashing pumpkins. You know, we've never met before, but in meeting you, I've heard plenty about you. In meeting you, I could see, like Peter speaks very highly of you. Ebro has spoken very highly of you. Very many people have spoken very highly of you. They say you're the sweetest person ever. I could see that. I could see. I get that. I'm trying to figure out why that doesn't resonate without meeting you. I don't know. I'm trying to figure that out because I see the same thing. It's applicable to myself as well. I watch myself on television. I look like a total dick. A total dude. I'm very easy to be mistaken for a total dick. I don't think I'm a dick in person. You have your good days and your bad days. Thanks a lot, Marissa. All right. So I can be a dick. I can. But Amber seems like the total opposite of all of her misconceptions. I am. It's very frustrating too. So how do you rectify that? Or do you care? I just... Because I don't care. No. I used to. I definitely don't care anymore. You have trained and conditioned myself. Yeah. For sure. Because you kind of have to. That's an amazing place to be in life, isn't it? To just get to a point where you're just like, I don't give a fuck. I don't care. Yeah. Yeah. It feels really good. I'm definitely at that point for sure. I mean, for me it has its pros and its cons, like I say, I've trained myself to be that way and it protects me from a lot of fuck shit. However, there's instances where I want to show people that I care, but I don't know how to because I just don't care very often. You don't have a day that it does affect you. Like you just wake up and have a bad day and see some shit online and it does fucking get to you. No. No. No. Nothing said about me by strangers, all to anything for me, like I care about what happens. I get sensitive moments. Like when that GQ shit came out, I was like really fucking pissed, like I was on GQ. I don't even want to get into it. It was just like some ridiculous shit. Yeah. And I just like, it really, really hit me in a different way. And it was like my birthday and like, oh, yeah, it was your birthday. And I was just like. That's why you woke up crying. Yeah. I woke up crying on my birthday. Like this fucking sucks, but like the movement that I'm trying to do is not easy. And I'm taking all the hits for every woman out there. So like when I go to these book signings and I go to these events and it's just like a plethora of women that are just fucking like Amber, thank you. Thank you for really taking all these hits for us. You know what I'm saying? I do that. And every time I go out and I go against a fucking magazine or I say something like, you know, the conversation I just had with Ebro or the interviews that I do, you know, is really to bring awareness of like the fuck shit and I'm just sick of it. Okay. Yeah. Do you, are you spiritual? I am. Religious. I'm not religious. No. Spiritual. Yeah. Okay. So you don't really go to church. I do not believe in church. I feel like there's a lot of bigots in the church based off my personal, you know, life. I've been to church a million times. I was baptized of Roman Catholic when I was born, then I became a born again Christian when I was 12. I got read baptized. All right. We used to go to church all the time and people were just fake as fuck. And I was just like, I don't want to go to church anymore. I pray about myself. Interesting. But what do you guys just not just going to say anything? Am I having my fucking spiritual conversation about having your, I didn't want to interrupt your other moment. No, no, please interrupt. It's going to get real yoga in here in the second. Well, I mean, to backtrack what she said about the magazines and this and that. I mean, I think what I think your focus is the women that are at your book signing and that should be it. Not what people that don't understand what you're doing. Because obviously there's a large group of women that do. Yeah. So well, well, I've never faced, you know, I'm not going to sit here and talk your ear off if you don't want to listen. That's fine. You know what it is. And then you can be like, man, I don't really care for it. All right. Cool. That's it. I mean, you know, I'm not, I'm not going to OD on you. I'm just going to let you know what it is. Makes sense. Yeah. That's all. I can dig it. Do you, are you in the sports at all? I prefer baseball. If I'm into any sport, it would be baseball. I grew up in like a baseball family. Do you have a baseball team? Do I have a baseball team? Yes. I do not have a baseball team. Great. Beautiful. Yeah. Look how that works. Oh, you're saying like, oh, like do I, probably the Phillies. I'm from Phillies. Great. She's a Yankee fan. But they, we're not going to let you be a Phillies fan here. Um, but if you were into football, if she was into football, I did really horrible in fantasy football this past weekend, but it's okay. It's okay. You can't predict these things. But if you want to play against me in fantasy football this week, join my league on Fandoor. It's easy. At the Fandoor.com/button, pick your players, stay under the salary cap, and sit back on Sunday and watch your team rack up points. That's Fandoor.com/button to join my league and the spots fill up fast, so make sure you get in before it is too late. You should do like fantasy football, Amber. I don't really know how to play football. I don't have time. I don't know how to play football. I have seven assistants that I must tend to and I have a security guard. Duffy is here to support me and lay in bed. I need someone to lay with me. Do I have it? Do I have it? First of all, I don't talk like that. I don't know how to play football. I don't have time for your frivolous American sports. I don't do football. You know, when there was a little rumor about you and Amari, that's totally fake, by the way. Totally fake. Never happened. Nothing ever happened. I literally took a picture with him in the club when the photographer was like, "Hey, let me get a picture of you guys," and we snapped a picture and that was it. But then that whole rumor was going around and I'm a die-hard Nick fan, right? I think the second that happened, "Hey, don't shake your head at my nicks." At the second that that happened, I think the nicks and Amari started playing pure shit. I even tweeted you, I think. That's probably my fault. And you responded. Yeah, I told you. Oh no, maybe they were doing good and I said, "Yes, whatever you're doing, Amber. Keep it going." What? Yeah, it's like a reverse Taylor Swift curse because they say there's a Taylor Swift curse. Anytime she shows up to a sporting event, that team just does horribly. She did it to my nicks. There's a Drake effect too. They say that. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know about that. I mean, they say any celebrity that shows up, they always say they curse. Like, they said Jessica Simpson was curse in Tony Romo. She was. She was. And Sierra's curse in Russell Wilson. She is. She is. That's kind of true. Okay. Wait, don't let Amber jump in with her equality shit. Women cannot curse anyone who needs her on the field. Yeah. Why isn't they? Why isn't Sierra playing quarterback? She can do it too. Yeah, we don't want to do any of this. What's your favorite? Stop it. What's your favorite? Cavardian dish. And can you cook Cavardian foods? I guess the traditional kachupa. I can't personally cook. That's my favorite. Yeah, kachupa. Mm-hmm. Or what's the soup? Is it man-chupa? Or it's a similar name. Whatever my chef makes that day. No, my God. I really have time for this. What is this cooking stuff you guys speak of? I have four chefs in two kitchens. Yo, I grew up in a one-bedroom apartment, poorest park in Philly. Stop it. Yeah, but you got to stop that. See, we got to stop. I grew up addicted to angel dust, damn near homeless in Jersey City. Well, I'm saying this is that I come from very humble beginnings. As do I. All right, so I'm not, I'm not, sometimes I have a chef. No. I come from humble beginnings, well, but I mean, I've been away from that. For quite some time. Yes. And who I am today, sometimes you may not be able to pick up my very humble beginnings. You got a chef. You got assistance. I do not. I don't. You got security. You got shiny jerseys. You got a great barber. You never take your shades off. You're like this fucking mystery mystique woman here. Oh, stop it. Get whiz got away. Mm-hmm. Let me get him back. Wait, what's the future line? I'm gonna get my bitch back. Oh, I don't know if it's time for that. I don't know. Yeah, I think it's I'm gonna get my bitch back. Yeah, I'm gonna get her a nigga back. Yep. I root for that. Me too. I do. I do for that whiz, me and whiz have worked together. Also, because we're moving a tattoo hurts a lot. So that's why I also hope that works out. I mean, that's, I mean, for part of the new. That has to move her tattoo. Yeah, that's, that's as bad as dad. It was a joke. That is a great tattoo. I like how weed is next to whiz. It has to be. That just seems appropriate. And dogs and okay, we'll examine you at another time. A shout out to whiz. I want to thank Amber for coming here. Thanks for having me. You've been a great sport, even though I want to thank your professional caper that you have. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. For some vendors, thanks for caping for Amber. No problem. We really enjoyed it and had a blast. I know he did. I didn't get that dig as deep as I wanted, but I appreciate it. No problem. Any final words for? No. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you. This was long overdue. It was great to meet you. Nice to meet you guys too. Was it nice to meet us? Yeah, for real. You already met. Was this one of my friends? Was this one of my friends? Was this one of my friends? Was this easier? What, this interview? This, yeah. Was this? I love this interview. Okay. That was here. That's why she loved it. And because we weren't chauvinistic. Like, e-bro. So maybe next time you're in New York, well, not next time. One of the many times that you're in New York, we can do this again sometime. Absolutely, Joe. Anytime. Or should I ask Joseph? Should I ask someone on the team? I mean, she has my marissa as my number. I do. We text. We send hard emojis. I'll be in LA the 14th. Maybe I'll run into it. And I'll be in LA next month. Oh, that's right. I wanted to go to both of those things. Why aren't they next to each other? So maybe we should do it. Maybe we should do a podcast out in LA. We should do that. That would be great. Without Marissa? No, with me. It's only happening with me. So what did you do? You just put Amber's number in the group text. A warrior. We head to LA. We can decide how we're going to figure this out. I'm going to get three flyouts in LA. And the next time, we don't have to talk so much about, like, slut walk and like, you know. Yeah, we can have a regular conversation. We can talk. You know what I mean? Like, this is the message. How about our weekends? Right. Like, you know, and then my book is out already. So we can move on to other things we can talk about, you know, maybe more personal things and stuff like that. So you can get, you guys can get to know me more. Oh, we should do it. We should all go hang out, right? And have like a great day out. And we can take a mad Instagram pictures. Exactly. And pretend we're all best friends. Yeah, we know not. And then then we'll talk about them. We can't do that. Because then people would say that Marissa Rory and Joe are fucking Amber. We don't want to be so amazing. This has been great. Amber, thank you. Duffy, thank you. Thank you. We'll talk. And that's that. I'll name this podcast later, episode number 37, right? Yes, that. All right. All right.