The Joe Budden Podcast
I'll Name This Podcast Later Episode 19
The long awaited R&B bracket discussion is finally here! Joe, Marisa, and Rory; joined by friend of the show, MTV's, Rob Markman, Hot 97's Deanii Digital, and Emanny (sort of) discuss the greatest R&B albums from 1990 to present day. @JoeBudden @MarisaMendez @thisisrory @RobMarkman @ScottieBeam @theonlyemanny *****If you want to write into the show and ask us for advice on something going on in your life, or would like to tell us a story, or just tell us how much you enjoy our amazing podcast email illnamethispodcastlater@gmail.com we will pick a few each week and read them on the show!***** SUBSCRIBE at itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/ill-n…i=335888425&mt=2 ....and rate, comment, etc!
- Go, we need to, I'm rolling Q from Joey since Peter's a piece of shit and doesn't do it anymore. All right, I will name this podcast later. This is episode 19, if I'm not mistaken. - Right. - And I'm not. Look at that, I'm pretty good. We're right on the money. We got a full house today. We have a lot of people in the building, some more welcome than others. We have my good friend and pal Rory here, say hello to people. - Hey, hey everybody. - We have Mottie the Body. - Hello. - We need a better hello from you today. - 'Cause it's my friend Mendez, it's not help, Mottie the Body. - Okay, so we got Mottie the Body in the building. We have a friend to the show. Right? - Yeah, he's a friend of the show. - Yeah, he's been on the show. - We don't have many guests. - You know, it's funny. Rob came here for our hip hop discussion, and some type of way I felt it was appropriate to invite him back for this R&B discussion. Rob has started an R&B podcast. What is the name of the podcast? - Name of the podcast. - It's special. - Light special. With Kristen Coral and Rob Martin. - Did we inspire you at all after the podcast? I'm gonna take some credit for it. - A little bit, you know what? I'll say this. I definitely had the idea to do an R&B podcast. I always wanted an R&B like show, like a quiet storm, late in the show, but those don't exist anymore. Radio billies. - Unfortunately, yeah. - So a podcast was the next best thing. So I always had the idea, and after I was a guest on, I named this podcast later, I was like, you know what? - You're going. - I could do this. - Yeah, I love it. - You could do it. - Is it iTunes, SoundCloud, where do we find it? - Yeah, we're on SoundCloud, Relite Special. You could search in on SoundCloud, iTunes as well. Hit that new and noteworthy page. That was a good look. - Now, my only issue with Rob and his podcast is, is that he's such a big fan of the Meek intro. (all laughing) - I don't feel like anybody who thinks that's the best intro ever should lead an R&B podcast. - Did you see the R&B cover that I sent you, of the girl singing the Meek intro? - Uh-oh, yeah, that was amazing. That was amazing. And we have, are you on your phone during the podcast? - No, I'm looking at the list. - Oh, you got the list? - Yes, I do. - I emailed it out to everybody. - And we-- - Some producer work last night. - Oh, for what? - Coffee and taste. (all laughing) - I can't send a shit. - Can I introduce Deani, please? Can you guys, bigger-- - I sent it in the brief to the little video. - You guys, bigger back and forth later. We have new friends to the show, Deani, here as well. - Hello. - Deani, Deani's making moves out there. - Deani just works. That's all Deani does. - Deani heard the Miguel album that I just heard yesterday, months ago. - No, I just went to a little listening event, probably a few months. It's pretty dope, I mean. - I've been anxiously awaiting the new Miguel album and I can't wait to get my hands on it, outside of streaming, shout out to Miguel. What's it called again? Wildfire. - Wildheart. - Wildheart, wildheart, wildheart. Wildheart, that's June 30th. - Yeah. - Oh, I can't wait to the link comes down to that one. I can't wait to fucking-- - Can someone just rip the stream? It's been like, jeez. - Yeah, I can't wait to not pay for that one first. But I will support Miguel because I fuck with Miguel. All right, so last week, as promised, I told you guys that we would attempt to get into this R&B bracket long overdue. We should have done this ages ago. I'm gonna have Philly call in later. You guys will find out who that is whenever he calls if we get a good line going. But yeah, I compiled this list of albums and I was unsure so we could do a bracket, like a March Madness style bracket. And I was unsure of the seating. What seating would be appropriate for a few of the albums? I was unsure of what year we should start at. I was unsure if we should do like a decade by decade. I was unsure if we should do like a legends bracket. Like I had a lot of questions and I didn't really have very many answers because the only person that I have in my life that I speak to about R&B is Imani and my father and my father would just vote cool in a gang to beat everyone. So I didn't wanna speak to him about it. So, and I wanted to make sure we were not forgetting anyone because I managed to come up with 64 albums. But I was missing quite a few. I was missing quite a few and some people told me that 96 may be too many. Yeah, but it must be done. There's a lot of amazing R&B albums out there. Do we wanna talk about anything else before we get into this? Because this probably will take up. It will take up a majority of the time. I think we should get running. Damn, you know what's over anything. I wanna talk about your foot, what the fuck happened? Oh, no, my foot's not in play. I broke my foot. I was trying to be young. So now I'm in the cast and I'm on crutches for the next three months. So, if you see a nigga hopping in the street, (laughing) holla at a real nigga, yummy. So, that's it for that. I saw somebody tweet me that they really wanted the heroes to get in depth about the whole Charleston shooting shit. But I mean, I don't really wanna talk about that. Never really gotten into depth. I don't wanna talk about that. Racism exists and shocker, shocker. Like, that's my take there. - Yeah. - I do think it's interesting that apparently a sniper shot down the Confederate flag and they called him a thug. - Really? - This country's crazy. But yeah, I don't really wanna talk about that because then it's gonna change the whole vibe in the room and I wanna keep it real R&B-ish here. So, yesterday on Twitter, and this is what worries me about doing these type of brackets. I'm gonna assume everyone in this room is a R&B aficionados such as myself. For those of you who don't know, I've very barely listened to rap music. Very, very rarely. I said barely, we're gonna edit that out. I rarely listen to hip hop. It's always R&B in my car, in my house. I'll be 35 years old. I don't really have time for all the shit you guys got going on. - Like the Meek Mill intro? - No, I have time for that. I have time for the Meek Mill intro. I don't know if I'm, if I'm just, you know, when you get in your car and drive to Dunkin' Donuts, I don't know if you wanna just be that hype. - I always wanna be hype. - And that's why you're like 17 years old. You grow out of that when puberty is done with you. But, so I'm on Twitter yesterday and I normally don't partake in Twitter debates. Like, Twitter to me is like an adverse universe where you just say the opposite of what is and it's okay. - Hashtag Twitter logic. - Yeah, yeah, exactly. And this gentleman that I follow who, who normally comes off pretty, pretty intelligent, he said, and I almost quote... - Almost. - Almost quote. - paraphrasing. - Yeah, I'm doing that. He said, "Usher's discography is trash." (laughing) - Yeah. - He said, "Usher, he said JT's discography is much better "and Usher hasn't an album anywhere in the same class "as a future love sexy sounds." I don't know. - Yeah, exactly. That album. And I said, "You know what, anyone who trashes Usher, "I shouldn't have a music conversation with." And then he went on to fucking troll me and I ended up having a music debate with this guy. And his beef was... - 50 extra five. - Yeah, he did, he came out to do. - And you just left flustered. So I think he won that. - You know, to his point, he said, "The Confessions album "that everyone loves so much is all over the place." He says, "It's horribly sequenced." And everybody thought that that story was real and it wasn't, and the music wasn't so great. I'm just... - I was in Usher's story. - It was Tremaine Dupree's story. - But, but look, Monty's learning stuff already. (laughs) Monty's so amazed by the smallest thing. You know, that was Tremaine Dupree's story. - Now I'm going to Wikipedia later and Google it all. - Because that's where we should get our facts from. But I say all that to say that doing these type of brackets where you vote on albums scares me because of today's audience. - Well, in a backtrack, did you bring up 8701? 'Cause that's sequenced perfectly. - I told you I didn't want to continue that conversation with this guy, so I didn't. But it has to be done, so does Rob have the list? - I have the list. - Okay, where is my phone? Do I have a phone? I have a phone somewhere. Okay, a couple quick questions for all of you. What year should this R&B bracket start? - 90. - 90, I was just gonna... - Because if you do 80s too, you have to think about thriller. You have to think about... - Great. - Prince, I mean, well, Purple Rain is on here. You want to start from the 80s, but you have to do, that's a lot of albums. - This list isn't edited, by the way. - That's a lot of albums. - Oh, 'cause that's all, and then you have to think of Michael Jackson bad, you have to, I mean... - Bad album. - I just don't think you could make a R&B bracket without Marvin Gaye on it. - Yeah, that makes no sense to it. - Here's my thing, you know, it's your guys' podcast. Anchored by it by Joe Buddett. - Should be and Joe won his lifetime. - That's 80. - That's good. - Yeah, it's 80. - Nah, that's too much. Too much. - Makes sense. - Too much, I'm a dinosaur to these kids. Like... - We're the same 80s, though. - And I... - Well, it's our... - Well, we're dinosaurs, then. And honestly, if we did that, thriller would win. Would it not? - Yes, what do we assume our demographic is? - When the off the wardrobe, '79 was off the war, right? - Yeah, it was in '79. - Oh, okay. It was technicality. - There's that argument with 'Off the Wall' and 'Twill It'. - I enjoy 'Off the Wall' better. I think 'Twill It' is a great album. - And song is horrible. Like, I can't listen to 'Twill It' unless it's Halloween. It's like the monster match. - Okay, but you will listen to 'Twill It' at some point a million years later. - Yeah, yes. - So very valid. 'Twill It' I think is held as the greatest R&B album of all time by the general public, I think. - I mean, Purple Rain, you have to go back and forth. I heard a lot of arguments about that, so I don't know. - I'm a Purple Rain guy myself. - Okay. - The argument I get with Purple Rain is, is it an R&B album? - I don't know. - Or a rock? I mean, what was-- - Alternative. - Alternative. - I don't even think alternative existed when Purple Rain dropped. Like, you didn't have a box to put in it, and it was kind of just, it was like disco and then everything that evolved after disco. - That's really, I get that same argument with Mike's bad album, that it's not an R&B album. - Yeah, I could understand that. - That's when he became the king of pop. That's when he officially, I feel like became the king of pop was when bad. - It's not fair to include anybody who's-- - This might take longer, but do we do by decade? Do we do a bracket per decade, or is that too much? - I don't think that's fair, 'cause I would like to see albums from this generation compared to some of the albums in the '90s. - Yeah. - We gotta come up with something, guys. - Well, just to give the people an idea of our list here, as soon as I find it. - We should have polled last night or something. - You can make, break it down, male, female, groups. Male, female, and then groups, and-- - That's not fair either. You gotta have, it's kinda, it's March Madness. Everybody's gotta fight everybody. Everybody's gotta play everybody. I'm more concerned with the seating here. Okay, so for the listeners, let me just run down a quick 64. Well, we'll talk about some of the 64. - Nothing quick about this 64. - Yeah, we won't run 'em all down. I tried to go with a two-album minimum, because some people, i.e. Janet Jackson, I felt could have easily had more than two albums once I looked at her discography. - Mary J2. - A minimum minimum maximum. - Yeah, Mary J2. - Mary J2. - Two album maximum. Mary is another one who could easily have more than two albums. - Definitely three, three and a possible. - Yeah, yeah. So we did, I tried to keep it at a two-album max. With that said, for Usher, we went obviously with 87.01 in Confessions. I don't think there would be any debate there. I got some resistance with my R. Kelly 12 Play and TP2.com. Some people said that the Chocolate Factory should have been there. Is the Chocolate Factory better than either of those albums? - I like Chocolate Factory over at 12 Play. - 12 Play. - Honestly, and honestly, his thing, I'm not a, no, I don't even think it's an age thing. I never really liked R. Kelly like that. And so not because of the whole situation with him and my last thing, children, I just thought that, okay, he was a great songwriter. I never really liked him like that. I just never really got that. - But you don't know why. - Never, yeah. Just the same thing with Jodasie too. - Wait, wait. - That's why, wait. I like Boyce to Men. - Boyce to Men. - I love Boyce to Men. - Oh, this is cheating up. - 'Cause they're so commercial, people are like, "Oh, you like the commercial dudes." Yeah, I like this shit. - Baby. - I like this shit a lot. - Sorry, you cheated on me, baby. - Well, I'm big Boyce to Men too. - Every Boyce to Men too. - Yeah, but if you had to choose between Boyce to Men and Jodasie, would pick Jodasie. - What year are you making me choose? - I'm going, yeah, you have to, all of their stuff. - I was a Boyce to Men guy when Forever My Lady came out. - Wow, and they came out the same year. This was the debate that we had on the first episode of "Redlight Special." - Jodasie versus Boyce to Men. - Boyce to Men, we had Mack Wilds and we debated. - Well, what was the outcome it had to be? - Jodasie, Jodasie, Boyce to Men so much more records they had chart-typing hits, but Jodasie, you can see their DNA in the imprint, like they influenced a generation. When you look at guys like Partie next door on the weekend, it's a lot more, I don't see no fucking Jodasie and Partie next door on the weekend. - What the fuck are you talking about? - Yeah, more so than you see a Boyce to Men. And like that Boyce to Men. - All right, I wasn't saying Boyce to Men influenced anyone, but I'm saying, where is Jodasie in Partie next door and the weekend? - First of all, the auto-tune, I mean they were using that even before. - A lot of leather. - And the leather. - And just the, that kind of bad boy, it was like that rapper R&B vibe that exists now with you concursing the record and you could... - I'm not attributing auto-tune to Jodasie. - No, I'm not. - Number one. - Boyce, listen, I'm just telling you the outcome of the debate. - Yeah, but you might have been talking to idiots. - Nah. - You're talking about worst people. - I'm up on my R&B. - I'm up on my R&B. - And I'm not talking about Mack Wild. 'Cause that's my guy. - Yeah, whatever. - He knows that's my guy. - He was the only other one in the room. - Nah, I'm talking about old, he was the only person he was speaking to. - Mack Wild's, Kristen, my co-host, and then we called out to Twitter and had a lot of Twitter response. - Well, that's who I'm talking about. The people that you called out to on Twitter, I'm not saying how much R&B's in 'em. - I'm not rolling with, no, Mack is my guy. I'm not rolling with Jodasie in the weekend and party next door. That sounds retarded to me. And this is what scares me about talking R&B with some people. Because I'm sure that some people out there would agree with that shit. And I would want to hear a logical reason as to why. But we'll get off that. I'm off on a tangent here. - Yeah. - Let's see. Let's see. Now I lost my thing. - We were on the third one. Wow, we got far. - All right, we are on the third one. Floatry, Floetic. Lauren Hill, the miss education of Lauren Hill. It's gonna be tough to beat in any bracket. - Yep. - That's a one seat. - Definitely one seat. - Yeah. - That's probably, that's probably- - I think we already have two one seats with confessions and miss education. - I'm rolling. Whenever you guys hear an album that you think should be a one seat, please let me know. - All right, I guess it'll be production. - Jills and a two seat, and a two seat, and a two seat, and a 16 seat. So give me the ones, the twos, and the 16s. - Okay. - Jill Scott, who is Jill Scott? - The album. - D'Angelo Brown, Sugar. - It's best album. - Mary J. Blige, What's the 411 and My Life? - I think My Life is a one seat. - I was gonna say two. - I think My Life is a one seat, and I would put My Life over miss education along with her as a one seat. (coughing) - For me. - No. - If we had to choose- - Say it again, I'm sorry, what'd you say? - My Life over miss education as a one seat. - No, absolutely not. - I wouldn't say that. - If those ended up in the same bracket. - I won't. - I think My Life is a definite one. - I won't discredit Rob's argument because My Life is an amazing album. But damn. I miss education, man. - Who see? - It's Lauren, man. - It's Mary. - Maybe because that is a two seat. - So. (laughing) - I heard more, Mary. I didn't hear more of this, Lauren. - Listen, just 'cause Mary didn't go crazy and stop. - Well, no, I mean, you can't hold it together. - No, Mary's stuck with it. - No, well, my argument is, Miss Education has X Factor, which in my opinion is a top 10 song ever. - You also can't compete with how complete that album is. There's literally not one, there's always some record on there, on that entire genre. I think from rap to R&B to more of a funk, it's all on Miss Education. - Same thing with Mary. - No. - Same thing with Mary was an R&B album. Like, that's when they really perfected that Rowan G vibe, that hip-hop beat. - I would say, but I would say that's the case more so what's the 411 in my life? - I think my life was just, it was like, what's the 411, was the seed that was planted? I think my life was the perfection of it, where they just smoothed that whole thing out. - I'll take it, do you guys-- - I love you with the Smith & Wesser remix, even though that wasn't on the album. - That wasn't, yeah. - But just the beat, and even without Smith & Wesson, like that Isaac Hayes sample, and how beautiful that sounds, I'm going down the remake, my life, that when she just starts off, like the hairs on the back of my neck stand up. - It's amazing, it's amazing. Listen, no argument from me, bro. I mean, nobody's gonna save it mine. Mine life, if not a one seed, I definitely think would be a two seed. Do you guys have a beef with those being the albums from Mary? - No, no, I don't. - Share my world was dope, but I think if it's a two album limit, those are clearing far away the two. Here's my sleeper, Brandy, Full Moon, and never say never. - And I wanted to add Brandy, the album self-entitled Brandy. - Yeah, am I crazy for that? - Yeah. - No, you're not crazy for that. I think Full Moon is more mature in the universe. I feel like a teenage girl listening to-- - Don't, don't, don't, first Brandy. - Don't, first Brandy, let me save us. - Listen, don't bow. - Check this out, let me save us some time here, 'cause we had a lot to talk about. That first Brandy album is not better than Full Moon or never say never. - No. - All right. Justin Timberlake? Oh, now this was an interesting one. But what two albums do you guys think should be there? I have the 2020 experience and future sex love sounds. - Nah, I would not, I wasn't-- - Justified is hard. - I think justified, I would put justified over 2020 experience. - I love 2020 experience was like-- - Justified is hard though. - Wait, which one, are you counting both volumes as-- - No, no, no, that's-- (overlapping chatter) - That was all that ever really happened. - That was all that ever really happened. - That second, just an album, that never happened and I never heard it, it never came out. Justified is hard though. - Yeah, but future, well, there's no debate on future sex love sounds. - No, of course not. - 2020 experience versus-- - And I put that at a high seat. Definitely not a two or three, but I think future sex love sounds is a high seat. - It could be a three. - Yeah. (overlapping chatter) - To the listeners out there, please feel free to talk. Can we get everyone's Twitter name here? Mine is Joe Button, of course. - Rob Markman. - Scotty Beam. - Scotty Beam. - Scotty Beam, yes. - All right, Cementes with one S. - This is Rory. - Corey, what's your Twitter name? - You're right. So for the listeners out there, feel free to tweet any one of us with your thoughts, because this Justin one is pretty tricky. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Justified is an amazing album, but all three of these, you know, I think the 2020 experience, the only one that happened, I think that's a preference album. - Right. - Which might mean why I had to go. You might have to check your bias at the door. - Mirrors though, man. - Mirrors. Come on. - I don't think we hear stuff from that album anymore. Like, and that's not the total discharging factor. - That's actually true though. - But it's kind of like a cave and wamp. Like, like, Justified was way more memorable from "Cry Me or River." - And, yeah. - "Cry Me or Rito." - "Cry Me or Rito." - First of all, "Cry Me or River" went that way because of Britney Spears. Like, knock it off. - Absolutely. - Knock it off. - Okay. - It's still a significant record on the album. - What the record with the clips now? - Well, the listeners will let us know. - Oh, Neil, in my own words and "Year of the Gentleman." - Absolutely. - Now, Rory, wasn't it you that thought Neil had another album that should have been mentioned? - No, I said "Year of the Gentleman" is one of the most underrated R&B albums and I think it should certainly be on it. That was my comment about Neil. - The second Neil album, what was the second Neil album? There was one in between those two. - The Red? No, let's see. - Oh, no, no, no, no, nothing happened after "Year of the Gentleman." - That'll never happen. - What year was "Year of the Gentleman," Ose? - No, that was 2010, maybe? - Okay. - No, maybe before, 2009. - It was before 2010. - Oh, yeah, which one was this one? - I'm fine with these two New Yorkes, I think. - Yeah, maybe it was '08, '08, '08, '09. - I'm fine with both of them, as well. Donnell Jones, "Where I Wanna Be." - Absolutely. - Yes. - Carl Thomas, "Emotional." - Yeah. - Yeah. - Now, we have Miguel, "Caleidoscope Dream." - Because I'm a Miguel guy, I would like to add his new album, too. - No, it's not, we're not even. We can't even, we can't gauge that yet. - I can, I think it's an amazing album. - For any points. - No, no. - Well, that's your fault. (all laughing) - All right, so we won't do that. - All I wanted was you was a no-punk, neither. I don't know if it deserves to be on the list, but all I wanted was you was a mighty fine album. - Mighty fine. - Oh, I'm not rolling with a mighty fine. - It's so damn fine, though. - I'm not rolling with it. Anytime you've got to say it's a mighty fine list. - Too many as you can. I'm not rolling with that one. We're up the dream, a love hate. - Oh, yes. - Absolutely. - Yeah. - It was amazing. - Now, Rihanna, I had more than one album here, but because I was trimming down to 64. - What was the other album? - I think, I think rated R and unapologetic are better than good girl gone bad. - No. - I think both are. - One of those two albums that he named are flawless. - I get them too confused. - Then why did Rihanna-- - Rihanna was one Rihanna became her own. - But rated R is the one that's alternative. - That was like a TV record. Yeah, that show was a weird, I didn't like that one. - My favorite Rihanna albums talk that talk. - Yeah, mine too. - Should Rihanna have another album here? - I think she deserves two. She's got a lot of good fucking bodies of work. - I think she has a lot of great singles. I don't know. - Yeah, that's true. - Should that be the album though? If she has one, good girl gone bad. That's her best album. - Which one, what year was that? - Wow, that was O7. - Was that her first album? - No, yeah. - No, it's not. - No, it's not. - No, it wasn't. You think other son was her first album? - No, it's not. - When I thought she was Nina Sky. - So, good girl gone bad, wasn't that O7 with Umbrella? - Yeah, that's Umbrella. - Yeah. - Yeah, so that was her, might have been her third. - What single was on good girl gone bad? - Umbrella. - Umbrella. - Yeah. - Okay. - Oh, you're bugging. Umbrella, push up on me. Don't stop the music. Breakin' dishes, shut up and drive. - Breakin' dishes. - I love you, say it, tell me, Candy, let me get that rehab. Oh, good girl gone bad. Disturbia, take a bow. - Disturbia. - Come on, bro. - I'm cool with that. - I'm cool with that. - I'm cool with that. - I'm okay with that. - Oh, yes. - Breakin' dishes was a motherfuckin' jam. - But I do think that she should have another album. - She should. - I don't know which album that is. - Just because she's Rihanna? - No, because she has other good albums. Not just because she's Rihanna. I don't subscribe to that fan base. - You don't like, you don't think talk that talk? - I think so, but I feel like I'm in the minority. - I'm with you on it. - I think that was. - I was like, audio porn. (laughing) - Okay, let's see here. We are... - Yeah, talk that talk. - Yeah, we got a lot to go here. All right, Jodice, forever my lady, diary of a mad band, I don't think there's any argument with these two here. Okay, Beyonce, dangerously in love. - Absolutely. - Yes. - Amazing album. - Yeah. - Yes. - Should there be another one there? - I almost wanna say that album should be a two seat. - Okay, why does she have another album now? Like... - Here comes the B-Hive. - No, no, no. (laughing) - How come, every single album she ever put out is on there? - Wait, wait, Beyon, just so the listeners can be clear, are you a part of the B-Hive? - I'm not part of the B-Hive, but I am a B-Hive. Say, listen her. I listen to all her music, yes. - She's a part of the B-Hive. - I'm not part of the B-I-D. - Okay, all right, so listen. So you're credible here. What other album should be there? - Four to you wasn't four. Four was not a good album. - I think it should be on there. - I wanna roll, Deani, on this. - Can somebody give me the track list? - I got your room. - To four. - That's on down. - Yeah. - Had a bunch of those on it. - Four was phenomenal. - Oh great, Amani's coming? - Oh, perfect. - Oh, wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. Even I kinda know his opinion on a lot of this stuff, 'cause he helped me put this list together. - All right. - All right. - Four is one plus one. I care, I miss you, best thing I never had. Party, rather die young. - Oh yeah, no, no. - Start over. - Best thing I never had. - I drew me on my car crying today for a minute. - Yeah, four belongs on there. - It's a good, good album. - Four goes. - Okay. - It's four better than Deani's. - Yes, to me. - Fuck outta here. - To me. - Oh yeah. - Fuckin' drinkin' the Kool-Aid. (laughing) - What the fuck is four better than Deani's. - It's from me guys, me guys, my albums. I like it, I like it a lot. - All right, that's the argument for another time. - Yeah, so one that she had an '06, too. I'd like a B-day. - I'm a '2C. - I think Dangerously in Love is a 2C. - You don't think B-day? - B-day was good. - Oh, come on, Marisa. - I thought that was a good one. - B-day was good, but not better than four or Deani's. - No, it's not better enough. - All right, we have music sold shout. I just wanna sing. I love that album. - Okay, wait. - Yeah, yep. - Yeah. - Brian McKnight, Brian McKnight. I love that album. - That was the one that went on. - Never felt this way. - I miss you, do you ever think of me? - Oh, one last cry. - One last cry. - What's the other song, though? I miss you, what was the name of that song? - We'd have to. - Anytime. - No, any time wasn't on the Brian McKnight album. - No way, no way. Anytime was much later, Brian McKnight. We are at the Boomerang soundtrack now. Now, a couple of people said that we should not add soundtracks. - Yeah, I agree. - Yeah. - Phenomenal soundtrack, but-- - It's too. - PM Don, I died without you. - I feel like you can't have an R&B bracket without-- - Yo, wait in the exhale soundtrack. - Without those two soundtracks. - It-- - That soundtrack-- - To me, one-- - Those are albums. - Yeah. - Those are albums. Waiting to excel and Boomerang, those are albums. - Yup. - And Purple Rain is an album, and that's a soundtrack. - See, the difference is I think Purple Rain, though, has a cohesion to it, 'cause it was by one artist. As to this was the direction it sounds like. - I was waiting to excel the same cohesion. It was one producer-- - Yeah. - And it was private that wrote that album. - Babyface. - Well, Babyface also wrote probably every R&B song. - Yeah, but it was-- - Yeah, but it was-- - He did every song, he did every song. - I don't think you can really have a fear R&B bracket without adding Boomerang and waiting to-- - I think for the sake of getting down to 64, 'cause I feel like we're way above 64. - Not on this list. - Oh, no. - Not on this list here. - Okay. - This list should actually be, it should be 64. Or maybe this is when I was trying to do 96. I don't remember, somebody who have to count it. So we have Boomerang and waiting to excel. The jury can be out on whether we are using soundtracks or not. - And I'm gonna put waiting to excel on my C2C. - And if we're doing soundtracks, should we do 50 shades? - I've never had to fit a shade soundtrack or something. - I only heard-- - I've heard a few records and it's been in my head all day, but that's all I got. - No. I don't think I'm saying that. - I think it's too new. I think that falls under the middle. - For those of you who have not heard it, the entire thing front to back is an amazing, it's probably the best soundtrack to come out since these soundtracks that we're talking about. - I'm gonna go and listen to it, I suppose we leave here. - You have to strike to your work. - Yeah, you should. That fucking, there's a bunch of good shit on here. We are at 112, 112. - Absolutely. - Now, I thought there was another 112 album that could've went, but for the sake of keeping the list to a minimum. - Which one? - Was it a pain and pleasure? - So that was like the fourth album that was-- - What's that, Peaches and Cream? - No, I'm not sure that that's the album I'm talking about. - Peaches and Cream was on part three. It had Peaches and Cream, it's over now. That song, Anywhere, the song with Lil Zane. - Which one was Cupid on? - Cupid was on the first one, 112. - Yeah, that was 112. - Great album. - I think that's fun. - Yeah, we only need one from 112. Faith Evans, Faith Evans. - Yes. - Where do you wanna see that? - I wouldn't see it, but I wouldn't see it at the top. - Jaggedes, JE Heartbreak, Bobby Brown, don't be cruel. - Absolutely. - Don't be cruel. - Absolutely. - That might be a two seat. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, I'm wrong with that. I tend to Roni. - 100%. - ♪ Think about a Roni ♪ - Gah. - Very short album, but that makes it to my final four. - Yeah, I think if I'm freestyling right now. - A lot of albums in that era was short. I mean, Off the Wall wasn't that long, Thriller was about 10 songs or so, like, it was short and sweet. - Yeah. - That album felt this Bobby Brown album might've been fucking eight joints. (laughing) - Okay, and this is where Amani and I had a bit of a discrepancy. New Edition, Heartbreak. Now, Amani didn't think that that is the album that should've been there from New Edition. - That was their best, unless, you know, the stuff that they dropped in the '90s wasn't bad, but I think that's the best new edition album. I don't know what else you pop on love, like what else do you put on this? - Yeah, I didn't really understand where he was going, but they did have another album, the other album, what was that on? What's your album was on? Can you stand and rain on? - That was any heartbreak, that's this album right here, which is, honestly, might be my favorite song of all time. Can you stand and rain? - Wouldn't be angry at it. - Of all time? - It's up here. - Yeah, like, interesting, honestly. - My favorite song of all time is getting that one to fuck out of here, though. (laughing) - That was mine. - All right, what's your favorite song of all time? - I don't have one. - Little Wayne. (laughing) - This is Rob threw a self out there. - Actually, it is, title is mine for a young. - I don't wanna unplug your mic. - Oh, it's a fucking bomb ass song. - All right, but I wanna leave you plugged in here. So let's just chill out, all right? (laughing) Since Rob threw a self out there, Deani Roy, do you guys have a favorite song of all time? - Yeah, Donnie Hathaway, for all we know. - Are we saying favorite or greatest? My personal favorite? - No, it's a personal favorite. - Your favorite? - Oh, well, mine, y'all probably don't even know. Foreign Exchange Daykeeper has always been my favorite song. - I know Foreign Exchange. - Yeah. - I don't know if I know that song. Maybe if I know it. - First record off, leave it all behind, which wouldn't make this if we were doing Neil so. - Purple Rain is mine, that's well documented. - Can't go wrong. - All right, we are at... - No one cares about it. - Kelly Price, Soul of a Woman. - You said you didn't have one. - You said Ty Dolla song. - I said Ty Dolla song for a young. - Oh, I didn't have one. (laughing) - And that's why we don't... - This is not a game, people, this is a good song. - We wanna relax, all right? We're having a good podcast here. (laughing) - We wanna continue to have one. We are at Kelly Price, Soul of a Woman. I've never heard this album in this, in this entirety, I'll be honest. - But where are you putting this? - And who are you putting this against? My question is, but my thing would be she'd lose. Like against... - Kelly Price was bad. - What do you mean you're a 16 seed? - Yeah. - Okay. - Someone's got to go in there some time, yeah. - I kinda don't wanna listen to Rory and Marissa about this album. - I already said I was sitting out on this one. I haven't heard this in this entirety. - This album, and you haven't heard it. - And then that... - I haven't heard the same. - We neither, that's why I was like, I just don't. - Okay, so it will be difficult to speak to you guys about it. - That's not a reason to not include it. - But when this album came out, it was, it did rather well a missed heavy competition. People really enjoyed this album. Put, you wanna pull up the track list? Well, that doesn't matter 'cause y'all never heard it. - Yeah, they never heard it from the track list. - At least it came when you tried to pull it. - Some of you, hey, some of you listeners out there that are familiar with this Kelly Price album, feel free to tweet Rob Marissa, well, not Marissa. Rob, Rory, and Deontie and let them know your thoughts on this album. I think... - Friend of mine was on it. - Yeah, I'm not sure if you guys would, like I experienced it. So y'all listening to it today, I don't know how it's aged, but when this album came out, it was revered. All right, so, all right. - I'm ashamed, I'm not proud, like when you're hearing with this, I'm like, damn, I never heard this album. All right, we can go, where are we here? - Chris Brown. - Chris Brown X. I felt like Chris Brown could have had another album here. - His first one. - Wait, yeah. - His first one had what, like, take you down, pop in. - Oh my God, yeah, run it out. - Yeah, I'm a huge Miss Brown fan. - You're me and me, all that shit, yeah. - So, do we wanna give Chris Brown a second album? - I think he should be. - I think you gotta put the first one on it. - Yeah. - So, the first one is pretty crazy. - Well, here was X, that was a run that just came? - X was last year? - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. - X had X, which you don't want it money. - X, no, that's not X. - Yeah, that's not X. - Oh, that's not X. - Yeah. - Fine China. - New plane, right? - New plane, right? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Did you mean the one before that? So, why did we go with X? - Did you mean fortune? - 'Cause I wanted fortune. - Yeah, fortune was the one. - I confused fortune and fame. Fortune was the one, which one had deuces? - In 2012. - Fame had deuces. - 2012 was fortune, it had the record with Nas, it had-- - All right, so wait a minute. - Well, I prefer X. - She ain't true. - Both of us. - Yeah. - She ain't true as though. - Was it she had-- - I don't know if X is better than fortune. - Don't wake me up with-- - Deuce it was fame. - Fame, that wasn't a good album. - But which one had she? - Fortune had a lot of the, and we kinda talk about an R&B bragging, or it was playing here, but fortune was when he really went his like, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh. - 'Cause you had to turn up the music on there. - And I wasn't all the way, they were great songs, but I wasn't all the way into that album. - And X is much more of a R&B. - You know what it is, I think the R&B songs from Fortune are much better R&B songs than, Fortune had stuck on stupid 2012. I would never go there, what's the shit? I love that fucking song. - Don't ever go, I don't remember the fucking name right now. - Yeah. - Oh, don't judge me. - Yeah. - Don't judge me. All right, so we'll get off that. - She ain't true, what was she ain't true at? - That was 2011, but I don't know if that's fame or fortune. - We'll leave X, okay, day 26, day 26. ♪ It's a good album ♪ ♪ It's exclusive ♪ - I did somebody in here saying it to you. - I don't know, the valid version of exclusive was my shit. - Yo, first of all, bad boys, like, on B albums? - Yeah. - Puff, don't put out whack on your albums, bro. That day 26 album was severely slept on and on the radio, I think 'cause of the MTV show and everybody. - Yeah, 'cause of the corny shit that's around it. - Yeah, I don't see day 26 being a first round exit. I don't, I don't care what the matchup is. Well, no, yes, I do. - Well, I hope you'll actually do it. - I gotta see what the MTV is. Joe, all that I am. - Yes. - Great album. Genuine, 100% genuine. Great. Okay, now this is where Amani and I had a bit of a discrepancy again. - Trace songs, ready. Now, Trace songs has a few other albums that could go here. All right, you guys, how familiar are you guys with Trace songs? - Trade Day is my favorite. - Which one, what was Ready, what was on that? - Ready was, say, ah, black roses. - Amazing. - They put successful in there. They put, nape is know my name. - Ready is amazing. - Oh, this is amazing. - Top to bottom. - That's what, and I think that has to be the distinction because as much as I like trade it, like I think Wonder Woman is such a dope song. - Yeah. - And then, um. - Trade Day is my favorite. - We can't be friends. - We can't be friends. - Thanks for the, thanks for Yo's stereo. - But. - Revan fly together. - We gotta talk about the album experience. Like, if it's the album bracket, and I think Ready is when he top to bottom. - Just kill. - Ready is top to bottom. - That was his year for sure. - All right. - I don't think he wants to jump in on this. - So we'll stay there. - Except L.O.L. smiley face. - That stuck out like a sore thumb. I don't hate that record. - That record was trash. - That record never happened. (laughing) - I don't know. - You gotta like the song? - What? - What? - I'm kidding me. - I didn't hate the song. - I hate the song. - I hate the song. - I hated the idea of the song. - I hated the idea of the song. - Everything about it. - It definitely, it was a point. - It felt like some kid shit that you were trying to get that hit with. - And meanwhile, your ass was probably there texting while I was on it. - Yeah, I was on it. - Okay, we are, here's another sleeper of mine, Lloyd Street Loves. - Yes. - Yes. - Yes. - Amazing. - That was with you. You was on it. - Oh my God. - Yeah. - I remember Raisa had a song with the same sample. - South Side was on what? - South Side was the first album. - Yeah, first album. - He got Raisa, the fuck about the paint. (laughing) And the Raisa joint was hot too, they had the same sample. I wouldn't put it though, but the first Lloyd album was tight too, but I think Street Love is the one. - Yeah, but Street Love is the one. - That was the one with them. - What do we remember? - Get it shorty. - Yeah. - Mm. - Yeah. - That Usher's brother produced that. That was such a dope. - Frank Ocean Channel Orange. - Yes. - Can we put nostalgia? - Also? - No, is that mixed tape? - No. - No, I don't know. - Yeah, mixed tape. - Me and Joe debated this before. - Wasn't it reissued though, isn't it? - Nah, he couldn't because the giggles came out. - It is a mixed tape. - Damn, you used to remember using both the shit out of that when he had like 5,000 followers, he was going. - 'Cause I think nostalgia is better than channel Orange. - It is. - And used mixed tape. - But if you can use mixed tape, then I won't move it to me up here. (laughing) - Did you see both music too? - Yeah, I won't move music too to be on this list. - All right, we got Tony Braxton, Tony Braxton. - Yeah, breathe again. - Yeah, for sure. - Seven whole days. - Babyface Tender Love. Now, what year is Tender Love? Because if we're starting at 90-- - I want to see 90. - 94. - I thought it was 92, somewhere around here. I'm not sure. 92, right? Okay, so that stays. - That's the one with when will I see you again? - Yeah. No. - Wasn't it? - You're a fucking trackless guy. - Yeah, I need to. - I'll pull it up. - So you can let us know. Shide Love Deluxe. - 100%. - Yeah, that's 100%. - Yes, and can that be? How many seats, like one seat do I have? - Yo, you got a lot on one seat. - No, I'm sorry, I'm just saying how many. Okay, cool. - Yeah, four or one seats. - I'm sorry. - Only four or one seats. - All right, sorry. - But, but. - That album would be high. - Every other number gets four as well. - Okay. - And I haven't heard y'all mention very much about two seats. - But that won't be a two seat. - What? - Shide, Shide, Johnny. - Could be a two seat. - Yeah, I think Shide's. - I'm not rolling. I'm not rolling. That ain't a top 10 album on this list to me. - It says not. - Not on this list. - Okay, yeah. - It's still going. - TGT Three Kings. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - What's the silence? - The fucking rolling album. - It's a good album. - It's not a good album, that's a great album. - It's not a top two. - I love the track loose. - That's a great album. - And it's 17 fucking songs, and they're all fucking dope. Now I get that you guys might not like the fucking fusion of these three niggas. - A tank, January and Tyreys. Or was it Tyreys, January and Tank? - Yeah, but if you have never heard this album and you call yourself a fan of R&B, you're doing yourself a huge injustice. - No, it's a dope album. - So you should listen to it. You'll definitely want to have a baby or call your ex or some shit. - All right, Michael Jackson off the wall, really we're not doing Mike. - So Mike is-- - Lucky. (laughing) - We're not doing Mike E. First of all, Mike would win. He's the king of pop. You didn't want to be a part of this conversation. And we're starting at the 90s, the 90s. - Oh, we decided that. - I thought we did. - I don't know, I don't know, we decided that either. - Yeah, you did, but here we are. - Whatever. - That works, whatever. - Oh, wait, but now I'm going to renege. - Wait, yeah, cause now it's like the next story of all-- - Janet Jackson-- - But you can change for the nation. - 'Cause you could also put Janet on there. - When did "Redimnation" come out? - And Velvet wrote. Janet had a girl fucking album. - "Redimnation" was '89? - It was '80s. - Yeah, it was '80s. - That was the first concert I've ever been to a national concert. Well, the first concert I've been to was a minutal concert, but I don't know if it was 'cause my sister-- - I don't know. - 'Cause my sister-- (laughing) - They couldn't find the babysitter. - I was like, I was like five or six. - I don't know if it's fair to get Janet out of here. - Janet, Janet was a dope album too. That was '93. - Yeah, Janet was-- - Janet was my suggestion to keep if we're going to do '90s. - And Janet was more of an R&B album. That's when she slowed everything down. - All right, so we can keep Janet. We can keep Janet. We get Marvin Gaye out of here for starting at 90. Boys to Men, Cooley High Harmony. That album was great. - What about Boys to Men? Two, what was the name of the album, right? The second one that I'll make love to you was on the second album. - I remember that album. I had all boys to men out. I love their Christmas album. (laughing) - Yeah, two was like-- - Yeah, two was like-- - Yeah. - What is on two? - That's what I'm pulling up. - That was how I'll make love to you. That was, it's so hard, it was the first one. - Yeah. - You can't have any-- - On Bend and Knee was not on. - On Bend and Knee. - On Bend and Knee. - What about water in the ride? - Yeah, my name was on there. - Cooley High was still like-- - Two was the one. - It was like 75% do Jack Swings still. - All right, two is the one. Erica Badu, Baduism. - Sure. - Yeah, sure. - Yes. - Keisha Cole the way it is. - Absolutely. - Yes. - Monica, the boy is mine. - Sure, why not. - Tamia, Tamia. We're getting Stevie Wonder out of here if we start at nine. - Pilling me. - Yeah, well, take that album. - All right, we're heading toward to end Max. - Song's in the key of life for the listeners. - Max Well, Urban Hang Sweet. - Yes, but now is good too. - I added that on. I thought you forgot that one. That's what he had twice. - I think that's the one that, Amani made me get rid of another Max Wild. - Which one? Coco, what's the name, Joy? - The one with the joint. He made me get rid of the one with Submerge. - Max Submerge. - With Submerge and fucking all the songs that I love. - He didn't. Iman says no, he didn't. - Yes, you did. - Punch him in. Punch him. Punch him. - I said to get rid of the newest one and keep the old one. That's what I said to do. You kept the new one. - Urban Hang Sweet is not the one with Submerge. - No, Urban Hang Sweet is with Submerge. - He's with Submerge. - No, no, no, no. - Someone's nice dream is his newest, is his last album. - No, we don't want, no, no, no. - It's okay, no, he said the newest. That's the newest. - I'm talking about the album with, you should know these things. - Oh, okay. - The album with, that was the one with all the shit. - You need Urban Hang out. - Urban Hang Sweet. - You need that, but Maxwell could have two albums. - You could have two albums on there. - Can you find me the name of the album with Submerge on it, please? - And while Rory's doing that, John Legend get lifted. - 100%. - Envogue Funky Divas. - Embria. - Embria. - That's the fucking album. That album is crazy. - And it has matrimony on there. It's just really good. - There's joints on here. - Yeah, no, it's a really good album. - Yeah, I'm rolling, we're putting that back on. Okay, here, all right, Deani, here we go. Destiny's Chow, the writing's on the wall. (laughing) - Good album. - That's not the one I put though. - Oh, y'all serious? - I put the, I think the Destiny's fulfilled album was a better album. - Wait, which one was that one? - Experience, that was the one with Kater to you. - Oh, oh my God. - Lose my breath. The one where they did the fucking sex in the city remake for the video. - Yeah. - I think Soldier was on that. - Yeah, Soldier was on that one. - Yeah, Soldier was on that one. - But I just feel like they were already on their way like, fuck this shit. - The writing's on the wall. - It just felt cohesive. - That's the one that did it for them. - No, it did, but again, we're talking about albums and that just felt like a collection of, that felt like, yeah, that's what I call music 'cause it was just kidding. - Oh, dude, don't cut 'em beyond it. Don't cut 'em. - No, no, no, no, no, no. 'Cause I'm just looking. I have to look at like, track listing sometimes because I have to forget. So, but bugaboo, bills, bills, bills, right? - Yeah, yeah. - Like they should feel good. - Yeah, they should feel good. - Jump in, they like, save my name. - I like the songs right here. - And can you guys not talk over each other? - All of the songs on here did really, really great. - But my argument is, and that's why I say it sounds like now that's what I call music, it's just hit after hit after hit. It's not particularly a great album experience for me. Something like, I have to be in the mood to hear it or I might put one of those on the playlist. - You can't. - Destiny's fulfill was the one that I will listen to beginning to ending. - You can't indict someone for their success. - No, I'm not saying, I'm not saying success. What was the ballad on that? Like there was no jumping, jumping, bugga boo, like they were all like riding. - Remi that whole track list, Deioni. - Oh, hold on a second. - 'Cause there was a ballad on there. - I'm sure it's like track 12, like. - I don't care when it comes. - So good, bills, bills, bills, confessions, bugga boo, temptation, temptation. - Temptation. - Temptation was done. - Taking me over? - Yeah. - It'd give Rob out of here. - I'm just saying, for me it's Destiny's fulfill. - What? - I mean, it was a good album. - We have Anthony Hamilton coming from where I'm from. - Yes. - So funnily. - Black Street, another level. - Yeah. - Cisco unleashed the dragon. - Yeah. - That might be a four seed. That's pretty high up there. Alicia Keys, the diary of Alicia Keys. - Yes. - Yes. - I forgot to put Alia one in a million. - No, it's something. - Well, yeah, I have it on things that you may have missed. - Oh, it's not on mine. - Alia one in a million. - Is TLC Crazy Sexy Cool an R&B album? - That should be there. - Yes, yeah. - That should be there. Is someone making these edits? - Yeah, I am. - Well, he could always like-- - Oh, I have one that's not on here. - Okay, but we'll get to that. - Let's hear, Dwele. - Now, um. - Amorese First album. - You got a lot of jokes about Dwele. (all laughing) - It was First album? - Amorese First album. - I feel like it should be on. - What was on that album? - It's not on. - No. - I can't wait for that one. - Why can't we still wanna love talking to me? - It's a dope one supposed to be up there? - Wait, wait, wait, wait. - Let's slow down and listen to Rob's argument. What's on the Amoree album outside of why can't we-- - Why can't we fall in love? - No, shit. - Talking to me was the other single that's on here. - We know. - I'm saying, let me go. - What else? (all laughing) - Jesus Christ. - Hold on. - I'm not saying it was the album for the singles. I'm saying it was a dope album, it's out to bottom. - All right, just give me another song from that album. I'm looking it up. I'm jogging my mind. - And we'll wait for you. - Please. All that I had was the name of the album. - Okay. - And there we go. Did you just pass the track, Liz? - There we go. - Why don't we fall in love, talking to me, nothing like loving you. I just died. I don't know, she had a dope album. - I really enjoyed it. (all laughing) - Listen, it's no writing, there's no bugaboo on the album, but again, I'm listening for an album experience, something that I can play track one through. - Okay. - And track, Emory did it for me. - I don't think that that Emory album should be on the list. - Did we say D'Angelo Voodoo? I think we just said Brown Sugar. - We only said Brown Sugar. - And he's allowed to have two. - He's allowed to have two. - 'Cause those are the only two. - Well, hey, this last one. - I know a lot of people like that Voodoo album. I'm not one of those people. - Why? - I don't know if they purposely mix that album that way. It's not listenable for me. His vocals are low on most of the tracks. Like, it's not the D'Angelo hit. - From Brown Sugar. - Yeah. And I don't expect him to be. - Yeah. - I don't really expect him to be. - It was a huge departure though, from what he was doing on the first one, and then the second one. - And I already rushed to album, but to keep up with all the stuff that was going on in the universe. Like, it just wasn't for me. - Yeah. - And I get that a lot of people have that, you know, nostalgic, it's D'Angelo. I have to like it. I didn't really fuck it. - Untitled, Devil's Pie, send it on the route. - I don't think the D'Angelo-- - They're like making love. - It's a good album. - D'Angelo had another album there that's worth this conversation, because there's so many other albums to put. Me and Amani had our debate, because I thought that Janae Aiko's album should be there. - Amani, this new one that just came out. - Failing souls over here. - I thought it should be there. - I like it. I don't know if it-- - I made it. - Hold on, before they're done. - Very well written. - I think Rafael Sadiq needs to be on here. - Definitely. - I think it's the vintage. It should be on here. - I think there's a Pearl album should be on it. - I think that-- I agree with that. - Yes. - I think that-- (all laughing) - I think there's a mint-conditioned album that I would put-- - Which you send me swinging, or what kind of-- - I think it's that one. - And also, Kevon Edmonds. Everybody forgets about Babyface's brother, and I understand, but he had a very good album, and it was called 24/7. It was really good. - He had a song that I liked. - 24/7, probably the only song. - Is Adele 21 not supposed to be on here? Adele 21? - Oh, Adele is-- Yes, I thought-- - That's my B album? - I don't, I wouldn't call it on. - What would it be called? - Yeah. - I'm not calling them all up. - Like, pop. - I'm not calling that R&B. - It'd be called pop and B. - Wait, but hold on-- - But there's a lot of pop and B albums on here. - So, can we put that you add Lucy Peral to the mix? - Yeah, I know that. - And instant Vethish? Can we-- - Well, yeah. - I'm with it. - Tevin Campbell, I'm ready? - Definitely. What are you-- - Wait, wait, wait, wait. - No, I had to try to place it up. - Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. - Whoa, whoa, whoa. - Make my case. - Oh, hold on. - No, the sound wasn't about the album. The sound was like, damn, 'cause Tevin Campbell was supposed to be the one. It was about Tevin Campbell, the career. Not the album. - Okay. - You can't run a hard beat podcast. - Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. - I'm ready. - No, no, nah, nah. - That album, right? - I'm ready for this one. - Can we talk? - You know what the fuck was-- - Can we talk? - I'm ready. - Can we talk? - I'm ready. - Was it my home? - Yeah. - I'm ready for this one. I'm gonna use to go-- - I'm gonna do you out to school like some homework was the line. - No, shh. Oh, you tell us. - Let's break it down. Break it down, right? - That wasn't that album. - I think that was the next album. - Yeah, no, no, no. - Then it went down hill from there after that it was. - One of my sleepers was Ryan Leslie, Ryan Leslie. - Oh, great album. - That has to go on with you. - That has to go on with you. - Yeah. - That came out very epic, 2008. - Oh, that album's phenomenal. - Diamond Girl. - Diamond Girl. - Yeah, that album's phenomenal. - That should be there. - Okay, the love below is on this list. - So this was a debate, and Joe actually beat me in the debate, and I will take his side now. You cannot buy the love below as the love below. - 'Cause it's packaged with speaker box, you can't know. - I can't know not as soon as if I just want-- - Hey. - Exactly, exactly. - It is still a separate album. - Great album. - It's an outcast album. - You can't buy that album. - Yeah, but-- - When you buy that album, you get speaker box. - Are soundtracks included? - I don't think we should. So right now we are. - Do you guys want to include soundtracks? - Just waitin' the exhale, it's fine with me. - No, boomerang has to be there as well. - Yeah. - Come on, make a decision, you fuck us. - I'm cool with it. - I mean, you're gonna add way too much more. - I vote no. I vote no, just 'cause, again, if you talking about albums and the cohesion, I mean, soundtracks are cool, but then they always throw that weird, especially boomerang, I feel like, is that one weird new Jack swing shit that just fucks up. - Yo, that project with Questy Jones, but I was Secret Guard and all that stuff on it. - Oh, that would have to be there. That would have to be there. That was called Back on the Block. Once he jumped back on the block. - That was amazing project. - That album is crazy. - Did you? - Joe, I am, yeah. - What about T.J. Moses? Any T.J. Moses certain complex simplicity? I'm a novice. - T.J. Moses has some shit. - We're not the end, right? - We went through it all now. - We went through the entire list. We're doing addition. - This is gonna need a podcast. - But we didn't have Keisha Cole on there? - 'Cause we got a sort of goal list. - We said Keisha Cole. - Oh, okay. - The first album, right? - Is there anyone that we are forgetting? I'm really angry at myself that TLC, we forgot. - Not cool, not cool. - We said it was on there. - No, that was my list. - His list. Show it and get the empty list. - I don't have the same version that you guys have. I do think that album should be there, by the way. - What was on that album? - 'Cause I agree. - That wasn't gassed. - That was gotta be right. - Gotta be right. - Gotta be right. - That was the first album. - That was the first album. - Yeah. - Well, before y'all kill me, I might need to look at the track list. Mariah Carey Butterfly, is that up there? - I think vision's a love should go. - Mm-hmm. - I don't know what's on butterfly. You have to get any track list. - Yeah. - But vision's a love was an amazing album. - Should be even the dead emancipation to meet me albums, who wasn't old? - It was, I went. - I went no punk. - Listen, I'm cool. - I feel like vision's a love. - I'm cool with me, man. - I'm not aged well. - I don't know if Nick wants me to her. Put any Mariah on this thing. (laughing) - You've been itching for that second while and out appearance. (laughing) - She's running around town with this billiness, nigga. - I hate when women do that. - The nerve. - Yeah. - It's happened to me a few times. (laughing) - What a perfect subject for an R&B podcast. (laughing) - What are we going with Mariah here? - Just pull the butterfly, hold on. - Honey. - Butterfly with honey? - Yeah. - Oh, yeah. - My all the roof. Breakdown. Close my eyes. - Here's the thing with the Mariah albums that confuse me some time. I gotta go back and revisit it. A lot of what you hear and remember wasn't on the album 'cause they remixed the hell out of the songs. - She didn't know the most. - You know what I'm saying? - Yes. - And a lot of times the album wasn't what you really wanted. I gotta go back to-- - Now I don't vision to love. There's no love. - It takes time remixed. (laughing) - Did we forget total? - What about Mariah? - Total's on Your List. I see total in there. - Yeah, total has to be there. - I have total the self-named album. - Mariah's-- - The dream love versus money also. - Yeah. - No. - No. - I think what you call it, and I don't know if we count it. I mean, eventually we released it but the 1977 album, the one where he broke up with Christina Millie. - I love that album. - That's not a album. - That's not a album. - That was a-- - It's on that. - It's five fucking songs. - It was five fucking songs. - Yeah. - But it was like released for free first. - I also produced the long-going video, so let's throw that in there. (laughing) That's why we should put it on. - Ten songs is on there? - No. - It was definitely a full project. - There was not ten songs on there. - Maybe the re-release. - Oh, I don't have the re-release. - When it originally dropped, he had about 10 songs on there. It was a full project. It was short, but it was full. It wasn't. - And I'm not rolling. - Wait, so would we know Mariah? - Which one? - Like, fear of flying. - Yeah, I was thinking the first one. - Put best to me. (laughing) - Put the song on here. I'm calling it a day. - The first-- - Monica and Miss Thing. - Monica and Miss Thing. - Yeah, that was the first one, right? So that was before I let you out of my life. Don't take a personal-- - Let's straighten it out before you walk out of my life. Well, I love you so much. - Y'all are looking for the second album to add from artists, and I'm still trying to make sure we haven't forgotten anything. - We have another Monica. - Oh, yeah, Miss Raphael. - Monica's up there. - Oh, I'm sorry. Monica's up there. I just want to make sure we're not forgetting anyone's significant. Oh, Kim. - This is the last album. - Damn, Kim, say. Kim, say. It's an amazing song for you, R&B people that have not heard that particular record. Hey, E.M., say. - Avant? - Gotta have Avant. - Yeah, no, got to have Avant. Which Avant album? I didn't like his first album. I didn't like his first album. He gassed me off the fucking-- ♪ Every time I see you in love ♪ ♪ In the van ♪ - I love that song, the R. Kelly knockoff song. - That was the one with, I don't say no, just say yes. I feel like that was just the same. - That's the album. That it should be. - It might have been called Avant. I think his first album was called something else, and I think-- - His first album was my thoughts. - And we don't have a Tyree's album up here. And we don't have a tank album up here. I know y'all hated TGT for whatever reason. - That tank album has that first tank album. - It was a great album. - I named TGT Three Kings, and everybody in this room looked at me like I was a fucking animal out of Jurassic World or some shit. - Good movie, by the way. - I don't, yeah, I understand. I'm talking on R.B. with these people. I don't fucking get it. But it's fine. Tyree's needs an album up there. - Belau? - Well, I think people do. I think Belau has one. I've never been the biggest Belau guy. But I do think that, well, okay, we never decided, should this list be, with all of these albums that are being named, it's impossible to do 64? - What are we at? - No, we don't. - 96, no. - This is gonna be another podcast. - No, we gotta organize all this? - No, we don't need to-- - No, they don't need to-- - We can do that on our own. Philly is gonna organize this shit with the seating and all of that. And then it'll be presented to be voted on. - Oh, God, well, no, I'll make the last film. - Okay, that was the 80s. Yeah, that was the 80s. What about, oh, guy was the 80s too. - No, that was the 80s. - Oh, where are we at? - I'll be sure it was in the 80s. - Yeah, all that's 80s. - True, you said true. - Yeah, I said true, that was the 80s. - Oh, what about 'em? Damn, I don't know about this. - Well, the comment section might say some things that we forgot. Twitter might tell us some things we forgot. - What was that? - I was saying that in the 90s, come home, come home, findin' home again, home again. - That album was pretty good. - Any heartbreak was in the 80s, and we added that, so we gotta take that off. Any heartbreak was like 88, or 89, I feel like. That might have to come home. - Let's get a fact check on that one. Hey, Joey, where we have the time on this? Really? - Yeah. - I don't know where I feel like we just gettin' started. - At first, when when Roy hit me, I was like, this is a tall fuckin' order. - Yeah. - I thought I was gonna see a bracket, and he just sent me a list. - Yeah, that was. - I was like. - Well, no, no, no, the bracket will, that'll be put together, and that will be, I'll send it to all of you, and I'm gonna put that out so the voting can commence. But I didn't need it help making sure there wasn't anything missing. I'd at least like to get, what are our one seeds? What are our two seeds, and what are our 16 seeds? I think once we establish those things, I think we'll be in a good place. - Any heartbreak was 88, so that has to come off. - That has to come off, right? - We'll get any heartbreak out of here, okay. - So are we gonna go over one seed? - I think my life is a one seed, man. What we did say as one seed or suggested was confessions, mis-education of Lauren Hill. My life was a debate on one or two. And that's as far as we got for one seeds. - So we don't even have four one seeds, because we also got Michael Jackson out of the paint. - TP2 has to be. - Well, what's the quintessential? - I don't know. - Is it TP2? Is it 12 players? Chocolate Factory was on the list, too. I think it's TP2. - I added Chocolate Factory. Joe didn't have that originally on there. ♪ Hit it hard from the back ♪ - That's R&B in "Troll Ball Time." If I'm rolling with just the albums that we named on this list, then I'm going fucking dangerously in love. Should be a one seed. - Over my life? - No. - No, no. - No, from TP2? - Yeah. - Really? - I don't know about that. - Yeah. - No way. - Give me the track list for "Danger's Lean Love." - That was "Danger's Lean Love" was the song on there. - Oh, I'm crazy in love. - What we know, I just want to hear it top to bottom. Maybe I'm incorrect. - "Crazy in love, naughty girl, baby boy, hip hop star, be with you, me, myself and I, yes, signs, speechless." - Yes, that's crazy. - That's how you like it. The closer I get to you, "Danger's Lean Love," too. Be honest, interlude, gift from a Virgo, work it out, daddy. - I don't know if that's a one seed. - I'm wrong. - I don't know if that's a one seed. - I'm wrong, but I don't think TP2 should be a one seed over 12th play. - Your body's calling, bumping grind. Okay, homie level four. - This is 12th play, right? - Yeah, it seems like you're ready. - Yeah, that's 12th play. - That's 12th play. - That's a one seed. - That's a one seed. - Summerbunnies for you, Sadie, back in the hood, 12th play "Sex Me." - Shit, that TP2 also. TP2.com was, yeah. - That was such a random. - Official name. I'm just looking over the list to make sure here. Let's see. - We gotta take Bobby Brown off too, don't be cruel. - That's 12th. - Oh. - I don't think. - Yeah, that's 88. - Mm-hmm. - Niggas is lucky. - That's wild shit about new additions. They made their best album without Bobby Brown. - Niggas is lucky, boy. That's how it all got good work. - So are we rolling with? - So I'm not gonna sit right about this to me with 12th play being a one seed. - Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and agree with you, huh? - But I'm looking on the list. - TP2 is a strip for you, R&B thug. I don't mean it, just like that. Fiesta, don't you say no tonight. One wish, a woman's threat. - That's a one seed. - I decided, that's a one seed. - That's a one seed. - I just remember the Fiesta on the album was not the-- - Right, it wasn't the same one. - And this is like-- - And it's still dope. - Filling on your booty, all I would be want. - I wish the remakes-- - I wish, and the remakes, yeah. - And that's a 19 song. - So what are our one seeds? Miseducation, confessions. - So far, TP2. - My life, are we rolling with my life as a one seed? - Yes. - You would have to on this list. - Yes. - I think Wayne's Excel sound tracking is better than that. - Oh. - I'm not rolling. - Better than my life? - I'm not rolling with that. - So we add that, 'cause we have three. Confessions of my life, miseducation. So if it comes down to TP2 and Future Sex Love Sounds-- - Oh, bro, TP2, TP2. (laughing) - I have, I'm just playing Bevel's Advocate, trying to look at some of the other albums on the list. Yeah, I don't see, I have my lady, I don't see it. Yeah, yeah, it's TP2. - All right, what are our two seeds? - Silence. - Yeah, no, no, I'm looking. - All right, so I guess it's my job to just talk about people are looking at the list. Of course, Brandy Fullmoone is on here. - That could be a two. - Wait, I think Dangerously Love is on, Matt. It might be a two seed. - Dangerously in Love is a two seed. - Baiduism is a two seed. - Does the Shidey join a two seed? - I don't, is Baiduism better than that, Jill Scott? - Yes, Baiduism? - Yeah. - Yes. - I gotta ask. - No, I'm just saying, sorry, don't. (laughing) - If you got money behind you, make it face it. - Yeah. - Thank you. (laughing) - All right, dope. - Wait, why is the lowest first album on my list? - Who's? - A lore. Did you put that? - Oh, that was a suggestion. - Oh, that was a suggestion. - For like a 16 seed. Is brown sugar a two seed? - Yes. - No. - Wait, there's Maxwell's Urban Hanks? - Yes. - Yes. - Yes, yes. - Dangerously, are we getting tricky? Don't get y'all twos confused with threes. 'Cause the discrepancy is slim, I'm sure. - I'll put Maxwell. I mean, my humble opinion. Maxwell, two seed. - That should probably be a two seed. But so y'all got Maxwell by do-ism. Dangerously in love. - I think Miguel could slide into-- - Lidoscope? - No, that's where argument's starting. That's where argument's starting. (laughing) - Whether we agree with it or not. - 'Cause I agree, but that's where argument's starting. - 8701? - No. - Yeah. - I mean, no, you know what, three seed. - That's a three? - 8701 is a three? Then what's the other two? - Is Janet double rope on here? - No. - No, Janet, Janet is on here. No, it rope. - That was the one that-- - What's on Janet? - Janet was a-- - ♪ It doesn't matter what your friends tell ♪ ♪ Is it that song on there? ♪ - Yeah, again. - I just need to hear from top to bottom. Janet was a tight album. - It was. - Oh, that's the way love goes, I think, was on there. - That's, yeah. - That's the way love go was on there. - If I was your girl, all that shit. - Oh, I might roll with that as a two seed. - Oh, Janet has so many fucking records on here. - Like, that was the one. - That's the way love go. You want this if the Rob, what I'll do because of love, again, anytime, anyplace. - Yup, yup. - Yeah. - Two seed. - And that was a true on the album. - One of the one seeds again. (laughing) - Miseducation of my life, confessions, TB2. - Okay. - I can make a argument, but I won't. - Make the argument. - I won't, I won't, 'cause I don't think that Janet album's better than any of those four, but. - Shit. - It is for him. - If there was a fifth one. - Right. - All right, so, Baiduism, 8701, y'all said? - No, we have Dangerously Love, Maxwell, Baiduism, Janet. - Okay, is future sex love sounds a three seed? I think so. - Yeah. - Sure. - I have to hear the rest of everybody's three seed. - Yeah, sure. - I'm not a big tumbling fan, but. - You say R&B, that's more, it's. - It's 8701 a three seed? I wasn't a big, like 8701 had great songs as an album. - That's my favorite Usher album. - Me too. 8701 is a lot of people's favorite. - That's how do my show is on there, it's a good song. I wouldn't make it a three seed. - Twerk it out. (laughing) - Oh, y'all are crazy. Y'all are crazy. - You turn. - You turn, but you turn, that's on that album? - Yes. - 'Cause I know, but they swept it under the rug. But I didn't know if they still used it. - Yeah, it was on the album. - Y'all get twerked it out out there. What the fuck is wrong with you people? - Just say that. - Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. - Where's the court? - Some things I won't allow. (laughing) - Some things I just will not allow here, uh, nine. - I just don't think it's a three seed. I'm not saying it was a bad album. - I just don't know. - I just think you might be thinking about a different twerking out. - How do you shit on twerking out? - We might have to edit this out anyway. (upbeat music) - Y'all don't like this song? (upbeat music) - The fact that this is on it though is cool, but it ain't the best I shall ever. - You don't have to edit it out even for a sample? - Anyway. - Yeah, our mob deep intro is a sample. - Anyway, listen, we're not. - That's why I didn't hook up my laptop. - All right, so where we at on three seeds? - We're only at Future Sex Love Sounds. That was a Greek. - Wait. - Oh, actually, I don't even think that was a Greek. - I think boys to men too. - Boys to men too. - Yeah, that'd be a Greek. - I thought we were doing something with justified, no? - We talked about it. - Also. - I still think we gotta get 20, 20, 20, 20. - I thought you guys said that justified was over Future Sex Love Sounds. - Nah, Future Sex Love Sounds. - Oh, okay, I don't know. - He was justified and over 2020 was the debate. - Okay, okay, okay. Just making sure. - And I need to hear from the listeners on that one because I'm torn. - I really enjoy 2020. - Me too. But I don't know if I can answer that objectively. - I just don't know how you sweep. You gotta take it for what it was. There was a whole second part to that album that just-- - But it didn't come together. It's not like Speaker Box from Love Below didn't technically come together. - Right. - We can buy the first volume separately. - All right, you know what? So we have the one season, the two seats? - Yeah. - I think we get to threes and then we could-- - No, no, give me the 16 seats. Kelly Price. - Thank you. Throw that out. - 'Cause y'all shitted on that one. - No, it was shit on it. - You never heard it, never heard the album. - I didn't shit on it. - I didn't shit on it, I'm just saying, come on. - Come on, I never heard it, but it's Kelly Price. - No, she can sing. And I love her talent. - You can't tell me about an album you never heard. But, okay, I'll roll. So Kelly Price. - As a 16? - As a 16? - No, no. - Yeah, he's doing a 16. - We do a 16. - Let's do 16. - 16. - I might go, I'mma get-- - We could put Brian McKnight. - I might go day 26, which is great, but I don't know if it's top. - I'll put Brian McKnight, Brian McKnight is a 16. - I agree with that. - Day 26 album, I like better than J.E. Harberry. - J.E. Harberry also, I'm not, I was never big jagged as well. - Alicia Keys. - And I like that day 26 album better than Faith Evans album. - Mm. - I do. That day 26 album is tough. - Faith Evans. - I'm not gonna put him as a 16, just because it's day 26. - Right. - Do you calculate this new album once? - What about the diary of Alicia Keys? - Nah, I think that's better than 16. - That's better than 16. - Mm. - Music I just wanna sing. - I'm okay with J.E. Harberry being 16. - I'm not mad at jagged edge being a 16. Music I just wanna sing, being a 16. - I feel like, is info going on this? The funky D? - Yeah, funky D was. - And if we're using Janae Iaco, then I would like to talk about it at 16. - Well, so far we have Kelly Price, Brian McKnight, Jagged Edge and Music Soul Child at 16s. - Do you really wanna play music? - Are there any other albums? - Shave but a Twitter will kill us. - Is there another album that should be 16? - I don't think it should be at 16, but I mean, that's just my humble opinion. - Oh. - Music, I just-- - So which one do you think should be in place of that? - My name is Joe. - My name is Joe. - That's not even on it. - No, although I am. All that I am is the Joe album. - 'Cause you got the girl next door. - And I don't think that should be at 16. - But I mean, you just have just friends, the girl next door. - I love that whole album. I love the whole album. - Shit, Kevin Kim. - Listen, we're here because tough decisions have to be made. Laurie, don't get kicked out the room. - I was the one that suggested that album, you forgot it. - Don't get kicked out of the room. - What else is going on? - You forgot it. - I'm just trying to-- - Rob, don't get kicked out of the fucking state. - You know, all right, we're gonna end this podcast. I do wanna call Philly because he's the guy that will be responsible for creating the bracket. And I just wanna get his opinion on our ones, our twos, and our sixteens. And he has the list. He doesn't have our updated list. But we can have a quick talk with him and we can end it. And while he talks, maybe y'all can figure out the sixteens or y'all pick for the threes, right? So let me try to find this guy. - Ah, da da da da da da da da da da da. - All right, thank you. - All right. ♪ On the wings of love ♪ ♪ And you beat the two of us ♪ ♪ Forever flying high ♪ - That's amazing. - I don't know about that music album as a 16. ♪ On the wings of love ♪ - It can't be. - I don't think it can. - I don't think it can. - That music's almost dope. - That shit was dope, was that? - Yeah, we see Urban Maxwell, Urban Hang Sweet, yeah. - What about a flow of tree? - That's a two-seat. - Yeah, we have Maxwell, too. - Okay, great. - Our twos, just to recap, are ones, mis-education, my life, confessions, TP2, our number twos, Dangerously in Love, Maxwell, Baiduism, Janet. - Yeah. - What about putting flow of tree on the 16? - Mm, that might be a good one. - I'm not mad at it. - I like that album. But against this list, it might be a 15, 16. - Oh, it might be a 16. Okay, let me put my headphones on. - I think Jodice is high up there. - Jodice shouldn't be a 16. - No, not a 16. - No, no, no, we're taking time. - Okay, hey, Philly, are you there? - Yeah, I'm there. - Anytime I've ever called anyone on this show, my service has been bad and it hasn't really gone well, so we're gonna try this. Listen, I've got Rory in the room, I've got Mighty the Body here, Amani is here, Deani is here, and Rob is here. Rob runs the Red Light Special podcast. He just started recently, but everyone here considers themselves to be an R&B aficionado. Right? - Yep. - Except for, except for Marissa. We all have an updated version of the list I sent you. Why don't you introduce yourself for the people? 'Cause I just keep saying Philly and nobody really gives a fuck about that. So who are you? - I'm Ryan, look at this box. That's going through the boss, (indistinct) - Who runs a blog? You run a blog, right? - Yeah, I think that's a lot of sophisticated ignorance that call them the brackets, I guess, which is why you're calling them. - Well, no, I'm calling them 'cause I like you. You're a pretty good guy. But yeah, Philly did a classic hip hop album bracket which tore Twitter apart. And because I'm such an R&B head, I said, this is a great idea for R&B albums. But Philly being the lazy fuck he is would never do it. So me and Amman, he put some albums together and everyone here kind of helped to add to the list. Philly, we really just need, first of all, you are gonna be the person responsible for this bracket. So are you gonna do this any time in the near future? - Actually, absolutely. The only reason why I held off actually is because everybody started popping up different variations of brackets, like the 30-foot white woman brackets. - Wait, did I get all that list? - Also, that's the favorite white women on Twitter. Like who gives a fuck about that? So, you know, it's just the right area and they get over-saturating it. So what I mean, fall back is they didn't do that. This would have been out on it. - Okay, now, but I'm kind of glad that you haven't put it out because we've made some additions and some subtractions to this list. Alia wanted a million TLC red light special. If we added some albums, I'm gonna send you that updated list. - Yeah, I gotta clean it up a bit. - So we're gonna start at 1990. So that's gonna eliminate Michael Jackson, a few of those Janet albums, Bobby Brown. - Stevie. - Stevie. - Marvin Gaye. - Marvin Gaye. - My husband. - So we, yeah, because it's not fair. Like if we went that far back, we would have to add a million albums. So we started at 90. We took your rule over two album, Maximum from Artists. Let me give you the one seeds that we came up with and tell me what you think here. We have Confessions as a one seed. We have the Miss Education of Lauren Hill as a one seed. We have, what's, my life, Mary as a one seed. And what's our other one seed? - Our Kelly TPT. - Our Kelly TPT is a one seed. What do you think? - I would just fall to the women on my life. Mary, I was thinking Mary had to be the one seed. It had to be, you know, what's the point? Well, why not? My life, but you know, it's really all about them. So, you know, I'm gonna be the woman self the most. - Meanwhile, I've been the one that's advocating the most for my life. (laughing) - Let me give you our two seeds. We have Dangerously in Love, Beyonce, Maxwell's, Urban Hang Sweet, Baduism by Erica, and we have Janet by Janet. Jaiheem's album should be on this list too. - Oh, Jaiheem. - What was the first number two seed you said? - Dangerously in Love, Beyonce. - Ah, James. (laughing) - I didn't go to say anything. - All right, so yeah, because Jaiheem's from the guy. - No, I'm not, I'm just, who would you think? Who would you put? - Yeah, Jaiheem. - In place. - Jaiheem wants to know who you would put if you took that album off. - I don't, I don't know off top who, but I just know that when you're thinking about best R&B albums ever, I can't say that Beyonce made a top 10, so I don't know why. - From '90, from 1990. From 1990. - From 1990. - Do we have groups in here as well or no? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - That's a wise Jew who, you know, believes the man or something. - We missed the Drew Hill album. - What's the man pre-1990? - Now, Boyce and Man came out '91, was their first album, so they made it. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - All right, so you debate Beyonce, the beehive will kill you for it. (laughing) - But the seatings are not permanent. This is definitely just what we have come up with thus far. In the coming weeks, we're gonna figure this out. How soon can you get this bracket done, Philly? - Again, the day you send it to me is the day I can put it up, you know, or the next thing, rather 'cause I'm sorry, you'll send, you know, which you'll put all next stuff I'm sure you'll send to me at some time during the night. But, yeah, usually the next day, so that's what you said to me, I can get it done. - Okay. - So the system I have now is automated, so I can just type in everything possible. - Yeah, but we're doing 96 albums, not 64. And that was per your suggestion, by the way. (laughing) - That's more of it. Honestly, I was for first, I was saying, you know, but 96, we just don't do it. I mean, 30 was 32 extra albums, and it won't take that long. - Yeah, you gotta do it. It's too many albums to narrow it down to just 64, if we're starting from 1990. So we have to do 96, so you got your work cut out for you. We'll get these seedings together, and you will have this by the end of the week, and hopefully maybe July, maybe July 1st. - We'll have the list before the end of the week. - But what's a good time to go with this bracket? July, July 1st. - Oh, I would say, actually, I would say, after looking July, there's too many people on you planning to have four kids alive, plans, you know, bikini pictures. Not worried about it correctly, so after looking July. - So you think? - Yeah, they really get it. - So, what, the Monday after July 4th. - Yeah. - All right, I'm in. I'm in, all right, we will be sending you the bracket, the albums, and the seedings very soon. Please don't drop the ball on this. This is months and awaiting people have been invading my mentions for ever, saying, "We're the fuckers to R&B bracket." - Oh, of course, yeah, yeah. He'll walk so you can do this shut when you go in. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Atlanta, Cory will fucking figure it out. If my foot is better, I'll hop around on stage. (laughs) - All right. - All right, cool, Philly, thank you. All right, so I think, I think we're good. I think once we get the three seeds, everything else will fall into place. Do we still want to do emails, or do we want to do what might be over for? I don't think so. - I don't think so. - I think this podcast should be specific to the bracket and the R&B shit. Joey, where we have at the time, way over, right? I know. I ask not too bad. - That's not awful. - That's not too bad. All right, so we are good. Any final words from anyone here? - Nope. - Glad you guys are way too long, when did I say? - I think my life takes it, man. I think my life has what all these other albums don't. - Yeah, let me get some pics. - It's a shitty sequel. - Who do you? - If your album doesn't have a shitty sequel, it's not a classic. (laughs) - So you picked my wife. So Rob picks my life to win the album. - But there was a profession too? Raymond versus Raymond, he tried to go. He might as well have tried to name it. - So Rob, your pick to win it all is my life. - My life is from 1990 on, it's my favorite R&B album. - I don't want to hear your favorite. I want to hear the album. - It's my pick. - There's my previous bracket. - I want to know my life. - Rory, do you have a pick? - But I think Beyonce will win because of votes, but. - I think Confessions is going to win. - Deani. (laughs) - Aye, aye, aye. - I had to say it. - No, I'm not going to pick Beyonce. I really do enjoy the Baiduism album. - No, this is who you think's going to win. - Do you think Baiduism is going to win this bracket? - Confessions is not my favorite. - I also enjoy the New York Knicks. (laughs) - First of all, don't you ever in your life compare the Knicks to fucking Erica Vaidu. It's not-- - Now I'm going to write a whole article about it, I'm going to write it to you. - So not. - Do you think Baiduism is going to win this bracket? - No. - No, I don't, but I think Confessions is going to win. - Mm, but we got two for Confessions. Marty, you want to stop texting? So texting somebody and give us your pick to win? Tie it out or something, right? - Yep. - Okay. - All right. I'm going to go with Lauren, man. I think the Miss Education will be a hard out. - That's the one I think deserves to win. - I do think that the final may come down to Confessions and the Miss Education of Lauren. - I was just thinking we're going to promote to Twitter and the demographic of Twitter. I just think might roll with Confessions before Miss Education. - Ammani, you got to pick on who you think will end up winning this whole thing? - Michael Jackson off the wall. - Oh my God. Thanks. - Oh, but I'm Prince Purple Rain. - Yeah. - Lauren Hill won. Just because it's more current. - Because it deserves to win? - No, because the people who are going to vote, most likely vote, are going to probably be able to recognize that album more than any other. - Wait, my profession is more-- - I'm going to say people recognize Confessions more than they do in Lauren. - I've seen people debate 8701 in Confessions, which to me-- - That's true, that's true. - But that debate happens often, right? - About every eight months or so I hit the Twitter feed and do the My Life vs. Miss Education debate and it fucking drives people nuts. - Why would you do that? - Well, there's going to be a lot of people that are not huge. - I do think those albums are similar in a lot of ways that it's that breakup, it's that heartbreak from the Lauren's experience. - I agree. - And I think Mary captures that so perfectly. - So does Lauren. - You don't understand the cover. - Let me tell you something, when albums are that close in caliber-- - And they're close. - And they are close. I tend to go to which album has the best song and how much better is it than the other albums best song. And I don't think anything on my life is anything-- - The X Factor. - You can make a case, the X Factor's the greatest or one to be happy. You can make a case. You can make a real-- - This is nothing on my life. - It's like eight joints. - What's the best song on my life? - My life. - Is that better than X Factor? - Yes. - The live lines. - Yes. - And on that note-- - Yes, and on that note, let me tell you something. I don't know what Wyclef did to Lauren. - The same thing that Casey did to Mary. - Yeah, yeah, it's true. Hey, you write about that one. Listen, this was an amazing podcast. I appreciate, I want to thank each and every one of you for coming by and kicking it with me about this R&B shit. - Listeners, I'm very anxious to hear what you guys have to say about this. If you don't know everyone's fucking Twitter name and Instagram name, then fucking Rewind and-- - I'll put it in the caption with SoundCloud. - There you go, but then I won't have enough characters to promote it. But that's fine, that's fine. - No, no, no, on SoundCloud. - On SoundCloud, I got, oh shit, Marissa's here. She's talking again. And that was beautiful, thank you everyone. Enjoy your week and I'll holla, warm! - Peace. - The idea of Shawnee culture is true. - You do not think that my life is better than I expected.