The Joe Budden Podcast
I'll Name This Podcast Later Episode 17
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- All right, well, I don't hear anything. - Yeah, I don't hear myself. - Headphones are pointless, okay. - That's weird. I don't really like doing this without headphones, but it's fine. We are episode 17. - Yeah, 17. - 17, episode 17. And we have here, no Joe Button. - Just us. - There's a man in the body, here's two favorite people. - I'm sure you guys are all fuckin' thrilled to hear that, but we do have something special coming on the second half of the podcast that will have your guide, Joe Button, and the absent Peter Rosenberg as well. - Yeah, we care about Joe Button fans. We want to annoy you for a whole hour. - Nope, maybe just half an hour, right? - Yeah, something like that. But now that we, since we are in the studios of Hot 97 and not with our favorite sound engineer, Joey, in that 95 degree studio. - We're with our favorite sound engineer, Ajay, DJ Juanito. - A guy Juanito. - Thanks, Juan. - Who didn't want to hook my headphones up. - Yeah, I don't even know what they need to do. - They probably do. - They brought the room. Anyway, so I guess since we're at Hot 97, we should talk summer jam. - Yes, I know I got a lot of tweets of people asking for some behind the scenes info and things, and I actually don't have any. - Well, I have questions. I wasn't there. - Okay, oh, tell me. - A lot of my hoes were working, so I didn't want to pop up. - Didn't want to like just get caught up in the mix there. Got it. - Tidalouson. - Yes. - Didn't hear one thing about his performance. - I did, it was actually really dope. He came on second. The thing is, he was actually supposed to go on at the end, and they switched that around, 'cause to be honest, two clothes out summer jam, contrary to popular belief about headlining shows and things, it's actually not ideal, and it never has been a few years ago. I remember they were like leaving Usher perform to damn near an empty stadium when he closed out, so it's really not a personal thing. - Usher closed last year? - No, no, years ago. I want to say that was 2000-- - I was like, I was there. - I want to say 2010. - Fuck, I missed Usher? - Yeah, I want to say 2010. But it's nothing personal against the artist, it's just these kids have been out there since two o'clock in the afternoon, and it gets to a point where it's like, all right, I think I'm leaving, and the parking lot's going to be crazy, so let me get out before the very last act, so it's kind of usually what always happens. And so Ty didn't want that to happen to him, so he ended up going on much earlier in the day. I believe he was the second act, but he was dope. He brought out with Khalifa, and the stadium went fucking crazy when "Weed and Boys" came on, like-- - I'd imagine. - Crazy. - Was "Weed and Boys" out last year? - I feel like "Wiz" was there last year. - Yeah, he was there last year, and he performed that. He performed super early, too. He went on, like, I think he was like the first or second act last year, but I think "Weed and Boys" was only marinating for like a month or two at that point. - I was really intoxicated last year, so my memory of Summer Jam besides Juneut is very vague. - Yeah, I never really know much, 'cause I never actually get to see the show, but yeah, so he did that, and then he brought out Dage Loaf, and she did "Try Me." - Oh, damn, I would have loved to see that. - Which was weird, too. She was also supposed to come out with a Marion, who was the opening act he went on before Ty, which would have made sense, 'cause they were gonna do the "Post-to-Be" remix, and that didn't happen. - Did Janae come out? - No, Janae was not there, but she's not on the remix, so that didn't matter. It actually would have been-- - She still has the main part of that record. - Yeah, but that would have been dope if they did do the remix, 'cause they had everyone else there, they had Omari on, they had Tydala sign, they had "Try Songs," and they had Dage, they didn't have a cross, but I actually don't care for that verse, I actually edited it on my iTunes to skip to that part, so there's-- - All right, so there was Ty, then who went next? - I don't know, but I know that Fabulous had easily the most talked about set. - I watched Fab's, I loved Fab's set. I thought it was amazing that he got all those people in 30 minutes, 'cause that is not an easy thing to do, even though it sounds like it. That is very fucking difficult. - Yeah, that was really, really dope. - I thought Little Kim and Mobdeep doing "Quiet Storm" was fucking amazing. I know everyone on Twitter is preaching the new New York, which I agree with, and I want to see those kids shine, but it was still great in that nostalgic-- - Who's actually considered a part of New New York? - I would say the Manolo Rose's-- - Yeah, Manolo Rose, sure. - The Trey Pizzip, pardon if I'm saying that wrong. - Definitely, yeah, I think I can tell you. - You can get a lot of buzz. - Yeah, I haven't gotten into his music, but people seem to like it. I like Manolo Rose a lot, I think he makes really catchy records. Obviously, Schmerda, but we'll pray for him. - Yeah, he hold it down. - But yeah, it was great to see the nostalgic shit. Like, I know people on Twitter like, "Oh, we've seen busted a thousand times." I know, but it was still dope. - And here's a 101 and it's dope, yeah. - And also, people like, it didn't make any sense. How did that make sense? Fab's whole rollout was 90 shit. It was a young OG. - Yeah, I object completely well with it. - Like, it made total fucking sense. - To be honest though, when we knew this would happen, it didn't go over as well in the stadium, because you consider that it's a lot of young kids that are going to that that really can't appreciate that. But it's definitely something that it was much more appreciated online and the whole idea of it was much more cool. So that was really dope that Fab did that. I mean, they still liked it. There was no booze or no, like, dead quiet, but it was definitely not as received as well as it is online. - And shout out to Ebro for pimping title and Apple Music in one week. - Yeah, that was pretty cool. - Yeah, that's pretty cool. - Was Kendrick that a lot? - No, he was not. There was no such thing as a headliner at Summer Jam. - Oh, well, he was the biggest name in the last announcement. - Yeah, he was definitely the biggest name. - But he went like when his son was out. - Yeah, he, well, yeah, pretty much. I mean, it was setting, but he went before Meek and before Big Sean. - Well, Kendrick's album is "Sit in the Grass" at a festival and get fucking out. - Yeah. - I don't know if that's a nighttime. - For Jam E ish kind of guy, but he did a dope set. He brought out T.D. He brought out D's nuts. Literally, it was his name, Wellven the Great. He came out. - So, can we stop exploiting, in Hot 97-2, I'm not an employee here, so I can fucking say it. Can y'all stop exploiting this kid with Down Syndrome? - Yeah, is that what he has? I don't think that's it. - Whatever he has. He's not all there. - Someone asked me, like, did you take a picture of Wellven? I'm like, I refuse to take it. - I saw a bitch on Instagram kiss Wellven in the mouse. - Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, whatever. - For followers, she didn't do that. That wasn't make a wish. - He's happy, I'm happy, he's happy. He's getting money. Like, I get there exploiting him, but as long as he's like, you know, good, that's what really matters. So, shout out to him. I think his team is actually really dope. - I think it's his brother. - Yeah. - I mean, it seems like he's protected him a little bit. So, I don't know. - Well, I mean, Tara end up with Terrio. So, it doesn't really matter. - Is he still a thing? - Terrio? - Yeah, like people still like, no idea if he is. - But yes, anyway, shout out to SZA. She came out on his side. That was really cool. - Love SZA. - Yeah, she's dope. Jersey, what up? And then, yeah, Big Sean, I heard backstage he was supposed to bring out Jay-Z. I don't know what happened with that. But that was, I heard that from someone else. I didn't hear that from Sean's camp. So, don't know if that was a thing or not. Meek Mill, that was dope with Future and Nick. - Sean didn't bring out anybody? - No, not a soul. And then... - Shout out Carson, shout out Zeno. See, I can industry name drop too, not just Marissa. - I did see Zeno there. - Hi Zeno. - Zeno's a great guy. - And Carson's a fucking genius. - And then it closed out with Troiav and Fettie, which I still don't understand. - Did someone bring them out or they just went out? - No, and it was, we were just talking about that too. It was really crappy that like, we didn't even give him an intro really. Like, Meek set ended and then the DJ started just playing music instead of being like, hold up, there's one more surprise or two more surprises. So, that's why a lot of people ended up leaving as well. They thought it was over. And then Troiav came out, whatever. And then Fettie Wap killed it. And unfortunately, he did not get to do Trap Queen. And they were very upset. But that's one thing you gotta understand. These venues have a hard out. You have got, it's lights out at 11.30. - And what is it, like an extra 200,000 if you go a minute or something? - Yeah, it's literally like, that's like one thing that we also, I guess they told him to do three songs. You know, the counter is right there. And the third song he did was not one that people knew. He did 679, he did My Way. And then he did like some random shit. And they cut him off and he was pretty upset that he didn't get to do Trap Queen. Which, I mean, understandably, I'd be upset too. But you gotta know how it works with that situation. - All right, well shout out Fettie. - Yeah, he still killed it. And people still were really excited to see him. And people had been leaving 'cause they thought it was over, like I said. And like, you know, Triab, whatever. And then they turned around for him. So that was pretty dope. - I'm surprised Feminist Twitter. Well, Feminist Twitter just kind of picks and chooses the things that they like because they're Feminist Twitter. - Okay. - They weren't outraged that Meek kept calling Nicki a rat bitch. - Bit, yay. - Yeah, and it's, if that was anywhere else, Feminist Twitter would go fucking nuts. - But because it's Nicki, it's empowering now. - Yeah, it's very interesting. - I fucking hate Feminist Twitter. Like, it's literally, I go to war with them every fucking day. - I mean, that's like every type of people though. Like, people play the cards when they want to. They play the "I'm offended" about the sexism card. They play the "I'm offended" about racism card when it's not racism. They'll do a verse with it and then it's okay. It's just a lot of that. - They petty-fog the narrative that only suits them. - Right. - They need to benefit out of it. And if they don't benefit out of it, they're going to call outrage. They love outrage. Ask someone on Feminist Twitter or on Outrage Twitter what they're mad about and they'll call you a racist, they'll call you misogynistic, a pig, you don't understand. You're the fucking problem. We'll be like, all right, well, what happened? Oh, I don't know, something happened. I was pissed. - Right. - Okay, Feminist Twitter. - Like fucking Azilia Banks getting pissed at Katy Perry for saying, "I gotta go back to the trap house." Like, it's a fucking joke. She's just chilling and now people are like, oh, Katy is sensationalizing this culture and blah, blah, blah, blah. Fuck off. She's just fucking joking me. And some people call the studio, the trap house, so. - Have any Texas rappers made it out to the McKinley, I think is the name, where that cop. - Oh, yeah, I haven't- - Which by the way, we don't get political on here, but my thought on that is if a teenage girl in a bathing suit is a threat to you, maybe policing is not for you. - Well, I'm glad she- - Maybe you should find, you know, maybe you're be a good librarian, I don't know. - I feel I'm glad he resigned, and I'm sure I could definitely see like, Bunby for sure getting out there, and he's very big into all that stuff, so. - Shut up, Bunby. We're the nicest guy in the fucking music industry. - Although, one time when I met him, he told me don't touch him while we were taking a photo. - Oh. - In 2000. - What did you touch him? - No, like, you know, when you put your arm around somebody, you're on somebody, it was an '08 at the ozone awards in Houston or Dallas or one of those, so maybe his wife was around and she don't play that shit. - She doesn't follow her on Instagram, so I know everything about her. - Shut up, he was very nice though, it was just a very awkward moment, I kind of like didn't know what to do, and I wanted to like fucking melt into a puddle on the floor. He was like, "Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah," or he didn't say, "Mah," I don't know what he says, but he was just like, "Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah." It's cool, I don't touch him. - Bunby- - Oh, okay. This doesn't get taken out of context 'cause I love Bunby, I think he's a legend, I love you, G.K. But Bunby can make the same verse sound dope for about 20 years. He's rhymed candy paint for 20 fucking years and it's been amazing every time. - Yeah, well, that's 'cause he's a legend. Bunby the grape. - All right, speaking of legends, Mottie's Sports Report. - Wow, nice segue there, Roars, that was interesting. - Were you going to Cleveland? Did that not happen? - Well, here, I was actually going to talk about that too. I'm supposed to leave today if I want to, but I'm really, you know, my introvert, I am an introvert for those that don't know, and I have had entirely too much social interaction for the past couple of weeks to the point where I really think I'm about to melt down and die. - Yeah, you didn't even come to bounce last night. - Exactly. - To be shoulder to shoulder with a thousand fucking guys watching a game. - Right, so, as badly as I want to go to Cleveland, I just, it's literally not in me. And I got to see my Cleveland Boys this week anyway. MJK was wrapping his album, so I stopped in on a few of the final mixing sessions. So, it sounds really, really, really fucking good, and I'm really excited about that. So, shout out to them. Anyway, back to Cleveland. - Why is it called the Land? Can you explain, but we just want to short it, now it's at the Land? - Yeah, well, the same way we call Jersey Jurs, and like, everything else gets a shortened thing. But I was actually curious where all unclee came from, like for the hashtag, like, what made that thing? Do you know anything about that? - I have not seen that, no. - Oh, well, anyway. So, shout out to Cleveland, we won last night, and we're going to win again tomorrow night, and then we're going to just need one more win, and we're going to take this shit motherfucking home, and beat the Warriors. - All right, so people that actually like sports, if you watched the game last night, your man Steph Curry looks shook. He does not look like the same player for that entire playoff series. - Well, maybe he just doesn't have a home court advantage, and he was a little nervous. - He was a little shook last game too. He doesn't have any confidence. - Did you see the way I sounded like I knew what the fuck I was talking about? That was pretty good, that was pretty good. - He had no confidence, by the way, that was one of the sloppiest finals games I've ever seen last night. That looked like a fucking Nick's regular season game. - I saw a lot of people comparing that and saying they felt like they were watching the Knicks. - Like, it looked like a JV game. It was on, I really want to know how many missed layups happened at that fucking game. Lebron travels every fucking play, and I think it's hilarious, it doesn't get called, but. - I mean, I love Lebron, but I do think that that one call should have been, when he fucking came up on Steph Curry in the back or whatever. - Yeah, well. - That was a bad game. - Lebron is Lebron, and unfortunately, I think people of this generation are gonna say he's better than Jordan if he wins this series because he's winning with nobody, even though JR Smith and Shump have stepped up tremendously, not so much in this past game, but in, oh my God. And shout out to JR Smith as jurors right there. What up? And Kyrie Irving, is that his name? - That Jersey. - What up? - That is Kyrie Irving. - Even though he's out for the rest of the season, right? Or rest of the games, whatever that's called. - His knee looks like he's gonna be out for the rest of his career. - Oh, Kyrie. - We don't want that though. Shout out Kyrie. - Yeah, shout out to you. Okay, and that's my sports report. Also, there's like- - Nothing about the horse races. - Something happened from Jersey and the horse races. Someone kept tweeting me and tell me to talk about that, but I don't even know what the horse races are. - Something about a pharaoh, right? American pharaoh? - Yeah. - What does that mean? I kept thinking there's a bunch of- - He was one of the- - I don't fucking know. - Are you feeling it? - I'm going to. - Okay, well some horse won something and someone is from New Jersey. - Well, it's at Belmont. It's at Belmont, which by the way, if any native New Yorkers know, Belmont is like, all these fucking rich people go out to bed on all these horses. It's one of the biggest horse races in the world. Belmont is one fucking block away from Queens Village. - Sounds like he can get nice in the ranch. - It's like literally separated by one street. Like Cambria Heights in Queens Village is right there. - That's pretty nice. - And I've just been, I was wanting to go down there, I was going to go down Springfield Boulevard and see if somebody had tickets for the low. - Right. - I was going to walk down Jamaica Avenue in a suit. - Sounds like something real. - Oh, I do that often, actually. - I really got robbed. - Come on, man. I'm young Hollis Deli. - I don't know what that means, but actually when I was a senior in high school, I printed out directions to go to Far Rock OA, and I just drove out there and randomly walked around in Redfern projects. - Oh, that sounds super safe. - With my little, my white girl, best friend, with freckles and shit like that, me and her just walked around and met Stack bundles, rest in peace, shout out to Stack. So that was-- - Yeah, we were debating the most dangerous stops in New York City. And mine were between Broadway Junction and Far Rock OA. - Yeah. - Nobody can hear you screaming in Far Rock OA. - That was probably the dumbest thing I've ever done, but I was just so naive that I was like, oh, whatever, I like Far Rock OA, it looks cool. - And it's not like you fucking went to like Sumner houses in Bushwick where it's like kinda gentrified across the street. There's nothing gentrified about Redfern or anything in Far Rock OA. - And it was 2004, so sorry. - So like, people were still killing people, which by the way, Hot 97, I just walked in here. I remember when y'all had lockdown security, but nobody shoots each other anymore, so I guess because-- - I mean, it's still like-- - I didn't even need a Wi-Fi password. - It's like, this is not the same-- - It's still pretty bad, though. - You can't come here after 5 p.m. Like, literally, you cannot get in this building unless you work here, so there's still a lot of rules that because of this stuff that happened years ago, that happened, but yeah, it's a lot better than it used to be, but you still like flex all his interviews or record it somewhere else, because we cannot have guessed a pass a certain time. - Oh, wow, fun fact, didn't know that, learned that. All right, let's get into some emails. - Yeah, because once we're done with this segment, then we are going to flip it over to the special treat part of this thing. Are we gonna advertise that? Like, when we put the description? - I feel like we might as well. - Well, we need people that fell off because Joe's not here to now want to come back. - Oh, that's true. - Yeah. - He's coming back next week, guys. I think so. I mean, I saw Kayla and advertising that she has a party on Friday, so if she's coming back to do a party, I would just-- - Well, I don't know if I-- I mean, it doesn't really matter. He'll be home on Friday. - Oh, he'll be home on Friday. - Oh, yeah. We've talked the past three days, I think, on the phone. - Okay. I mean, we're allowed to say that because I'm just generalizing based on what Kayla posted on Instagram, which is for the world to see, so. - It should be interesting next few months. - Also, Kayla deleted all of her photos except for, like, 90. I want to know what happened. I was going to text her, but I didn't care enough, but I'm going to ask when I see her. Fun fact. - Well, please come back. Please come back next week with what happened on there. - And everyone's dying to know why she deleted her Instagram photos. I will have that update for you and more next week in episode 18. - All right. Let's get into-- - I'm going to read these emails, by the way, because I heard that from a couple of people, they really like my reading voice, so. - I'd be happy to give this segment up to you. - Transpose. - But though this is, no, no, this could be my redemption, though, because I can actually put the laptop in front of my face at the Hot 97 studios instead of in the other one to the side, where I have to read out of the corner of my eye. - Okay, how many months I'm going to do? Like, well. - Two or three. - Okay, I was going to say you could do like one and I'll do two, but fine. Okay. - This is, oh, this is for me, hi, Greg Parker. Okay, why does he say, what up, yaw, YAW? - We have international fans. - Maybe he's-- - I open our soundcloud, we have like fans and I ran. It's fucking weird. - That's pretty dope, shout out to I ran. Anyway, okay, what up, yaw? I love the show, I listen to it every week. Even the podcast without Jo. Jo, a little drop off from excitement, but still a good listen, LOL. Anyway, back to the main point. So I decided to follow Marissa or Mottie the body, but in my opinion, she's a good look. I feel she shouldn't chase these athletes in industry and words, I got an idea for her. She should get involved with an average low maintenance guy like myself. Even though in my mind, I'm not, but I'm probably compared to from the industry. But I have my own money, crib, car, and have more than enough to support her. - Shoot your shot. - And to keep her happy. I've been through a couple bad relationships with one falling apart recently. - Oh, no, he's losing it. - I was hoping she could be the winner for me and worth the time, at least try. - Don't soak about your ex when you're trying to bag a joint. - First date, ask through email for me, but fuck it. - Oh, and you don't have to worry about me following a million unattainable women. I, maybe a few, I, I TE for the eye. I, maybe a few, haha, but I don't be on them and it would be nothing to click that little unfollow button for you. Damn, that was one we did. Feels like a Joe Button song, but in my voice. (laughing) - That was kind of funny. - But in my voice of my guy, Joe, give me a try, Deep Smoker's voice. Side note, Joey, been listening to you since pump it up, a true fan, real talk, moon music, oh, Rory, my guy, cool dude, Rosenberg Unroblot, unreliable fuck, LMAO. - Rosenberg is in the same building and we still can't get him on here. - Yeah, he actually is right down the hallway and he's doing his fucking job. - Right. - That he gets, supports his family with. - Right, all right, so let me answer this question. I don't chase athletes or industry guys for the record. I happen to meet them all the time because that is literally all I'm ever around because of where I go or what I do or whatever, concerts and things of that nature. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But I've said it before, I would be willing to date a guy that's not in the industry. Maybe my regular dude rant that time was delivered incorrectly, I suppose. I'm not opposed to it. I just have yet to find someone who actually understands, I mean, they all say they understand in the beginning and then they get all jealous and stuff. Not everyone does that, I get it. But until I meet someone that's not super corny in the very beginning and actually holds my interest, this is what happened. So maybe I'll check out your Instagram, maybe if you're cute, maybe I'll shoot you a DM. I probably won't, but- - Can't you answer DM people that you don't follow? - Yeah, no, I'm just- - Shoot your shot, don't wait for her. - Oh word, yeah, you can hit up my DM's. Obviously you follow me so you know where to find me. I got the most hilarious DM yesterday from someone that was like, I don't know, telling me all about what they live in Long Island and offering to take me out to dinner and just letting me know that he does not do one night stand. So he's not trying to just fucking leave. I was like, well, thank you, that was really nice. I'm glad we got that out of the way. - Any man that has to go out of his way to go, I don't do that, fucking does that. - So that was interesting. - I'll even tell him myself, any time I tell a chick, hey, if you think we're going home to do something, you got another thing coming, I'm probably gonna try to fuck. - Word, that's always- - Especially if she's smooth and symmetrical. - Ooh, funny. - Especially. - Funny if she's smooth and symmetrical. - Story about summer jam. So I saw one of my old booze backstage, right? And it was like pure chaos in the hallway. I think I was with Fettie and he was with a crew. And we're walking towards each other. And back to the summer jam is always a fucking zoo. There's a billion, trillion, zillion, billion people. What, was he with Troya? - I said, was it Troya? - Oh, yeah, hilarious. And so there's a thousand people in the hallway and we're all walking towards each other. And somehow, and they're like speeding down the hallway 'cause they're running to the stage. Somehow we managed to catch each other, I think because of how tall he is and how bright red my hair is, we just managed to see. So he's looking at me with this weird face, trying to see whatever my reaction is. He'd react off of that. So he was a very blank face, but very apprehensive. And I gave him the illest side eye in the whole wide world because that was my immediate reaction 'cause fuck you. And then he laughed. And then I was annoyed for a second, but then I thought about it. It was actually really funny 'cause it literally, the way we were walking so fast, it just felt like everything slowed down and slow-mo and we just saw each other and just grilled and then kept walking and it was great. I just wanted to show that story. It was pretty. - Wow. - And that was great. - Ripping. - I know. - It's riveting story. - It's very, very worth sharing, I know. - I wish there was more. - I know, I know. All right, that's all we got. - Somebody that has a hot mail email. - Oh, wait, the guy that sent it to me? - No, this is a new guy. - Oh, it's another one. - Get a Gmail, man. - Okay. - Just come on. - Yeah. - I'm gonna get rid of this one. - It is, I am a piece of shit. Oh, am I a piece of shit? I'm sorry. - Oh, okay. - Well, you're probably a piece of shit if you're asking that. - Yeah. You're definitely a piece of shit if you're asking that. - I'm 25 years old and I've been in relationship for five years. I've been caught cheating numerous times. - Yeah, you're a piece of shit. - Parentheses, no kids. I don't know what that, how that is. - He didn't have any break babies. I think that's what he's saying. Oh, maybe he's also saying, I don't have any kids with the woman that I'm with. So it's not like we're really locked down and married and it's like, I'm really fucking up a family here. - Yeah, I guess that makes sense. All right, we tried and she hasn't gotten pregnant. Oh, so they haven't tried to have kids. - Okay. - Why are you trying to, are you cheating and trying to have kids? - Get your priorities together, Muggie. - Long story short, I got my side chick pregnant. Oh, that's great. - Oh my God, wait. I just totally got you all wrong here. - Oh, you are a good guy. I'm sorry. My then girlfriend tried to stick through the situation, but eventually I pushed her away because it was too hard to balance both relationships. The girl who's pregnant is a good girl, but not the one for me long term. Am I wrong for living like a single man as I continue to sleep around with three or four women a week and I actually met a girl who I actually like-- - Who actually came at the perfect time, right? - I haven't told her. - Two seconds, but it's okay. - No, literally, we're wrapping up right now. - This is perfect. - Oh, yeah, so you could just throw, we're just finishing this email, listen, whatever the case is, this guy's a yes, you are a piece of shit. I can't hear anything in those headphones. - Summed up, this guy, five year relationship, cheated numerous times. - You got a side chick pregnant, doesn't want to stay with her. - I'm trying to get his girl pregnant. - But got his side chick pregnant. - Not only is he a dick, he's a loser. - Yeah, all right, so you suck, but thank you for listening to the podcast, you don't know the offense. - This is my fair score. - You do make some good decisions, obviously. - The girl who is pregnant is a good girl, but not the one for me long term. - I mean, that happens. - Who are you? - Yes, you're a sweet girl. - To define who is good long term. - I mean, I guess she's just not spicy enough for him, but anyway. - Did you guys have any good shit chat? - Yeah, we did, we've actually had a pretty good podcast. - I told her some great stories about running into my old baby backstage. - Oh my. - Yeah, I was listening to him. - And people are gonna get some Joe Budden on this podcast. - Yes, they are, because-- - Oh, he spoiled it. - Yeah, go ahead. - Oh, I'll say where? - Yeah, tell us a little bit. - All right, because I felt bad for the audience who last week got no Joe Budden. - But they did get tied all the time, what up? - Kind of, yeah, tied all the time to Jayce, because they just got stuck with Marissa and Rory and myself. I figured, I was like, oh my God. - I think this has been okay. - I know, I faith in you guys. - But I said, I think I have my first interview with Joe Budden from XM in 2002. I looked around, I found it. - He found it, guys. - So here's 31 minutes with me and Joe Budden when I was absolutely nobody. - Actually, actually not 31 minutes, 'cause you are editing a segment out. - Yeah, I did say something. - This is what I have to edit podcasts from '02. - Yes, do you mind, you know, but you heard it, right? - Yeah, yeah. - It's pretty bad. - Yeah, it's bad. - And like-- - Don't part of me wants to put it on. - I know, by the way, I just want everyone to know if you complain about, like, you're gonna be like, what would you cut? I just want you to know the reason it's being cut is because of the amount of bitch-ass motherfuckers who exist who I know would at the person. - Absolutely. - And say, you need to listen to this, even though it's 13 years old, and I have a good relationship with that person, so I can't do that. - Exactly. - You know what, that's the equivalent of when people like pull up old tweets from when they were nobody, I can't have that. - They're still funny, though. - They are really funny. But anyway, so this is me and Joe Budden the first time we ever met, and it was basically like the first big, big time I'm using air quotes. A rapper that I'd ever met back in 2002. - The Clementine. - Well, he was, this is fresh off pumping up. Like, he's cracking at this moment, and this is the first time you and Joe Budden never met. - And Joe seems happy and upbeat. - I got such a weird, I got such a fake version of who he was. - Oh, by the way, because I just said a Jase. Someone commented on my photo today, Rory, and was like, "Yo, Rosenberg's trying to take "your word of Jase." Oh, my God. I cut it from him, bro. - All right, good job, guys. - Yeah, great. All right, well, can you intro it? - Yeah, enjoy. - No, in your Joe Budden voice, 'cause everyone seemed to love that. - Oh, okay, okay. Here it is, throw back, right? No, I'm not doing it right. 'Cause that's a more pervert of that. And it hurts to talk like Joe Budden. - I was 22 years old. - I was 22. I was young, I was on the prowl. And I met this guy named Rosenberg, and here it is. - All right. - Everything is just so futuristic in here. - All right. - This is the fucking-- - The mics feel real ghetto, the mics feel real soft. - But it-- - Nah, nah, nah. - I think it's kind of soft, but everything else is so-- - No, listen, compared to regular radio-- - I know, I'm looking at the TV. I've never read the flat screen TV in my studio, ever. - This is the Matrix. - I know, this is futuristic. All right, here we go. Everyone running? - Yeah, we should. - Okay. - No music beds. - Yeah, we're going a lot. No, 'cause we'll add the beds later. - No, no, I'm just joking. I'm just going back to my futuristic jokes. - Here we go. - No music beds in the future. - In the future of the phone. - All right. - My phone, my phone, my phone. - We are now here with Joe Button. - Robot, not robot DJs. - All right, from Dustil Dawn another morning, PMD, CBI. Whenever I have guests, I try to keep CBI out of here, kind of mess up the whole operation. And now I have the streets officially in the building right now. The streets are, I'm telling you, the buzz, no, no. It's you. I got Joe Button's in the place right now. - Oh, oh, it's me. Oh, I was looking around for the street. - No, no, you are the streets right now. I've been getting your, first of all, congratulations. - Thank you. - On the whole jump off right now. - Thank you, man. - To say it, to sound very hip-hop golly. I have to say that. - That did sound hip-hop golly. - I'm trying to sound golly for you. The jump off is official right now. - Thank you. - Let me get out as many colloquialisms as I can. - Let me sound polite. - Thank you. - It's jumping off, it's bubbling off, it's popping off, all that stuff. No, but in all seriousness, I've been DJing for a minute. I was just telling these guys, over the last three years, I probably got, and I'll probably play myself and be wrong now, of course, but I must have like five Joe buttons, 12 inches that I come over last. You got a bunch. You've just been bubbling for a minute and doing the, you really took, in a sense, you really took what I now call, refer to as the 50 cent model for blowing. You kind of started it before 50 even started blowing. - Ah, you said that. - You said that. - You've been doing it for a minute though. - You said that. - 'Cause I've been hearing about you on mixtape since even before 50. Tell me, tell me exactly how you came about. - Mixtape. - And how did you go? But how does one go about getting involved in just mixtapes? You just hang out on the street, like, yo, let's do some mixtapes? - No, you know what? No, no, not even. What happened was, I locked up and met a couple of people that, I'm not even gonna say y'all names. I just met a couple of people. (laughing) No, I met, that guy name is Webb right there. Of course, you people can't see him, but the guy that I'm pointing to in the studio, his name is Webb, and I met him and a couple of other people and they had some relationships with a couple of mixtape DJs. Quite a few mixtape DJs, actually. But, you know, it was kind of hand-in-hand matters. I had the relationships, I had the skills. Well, we were hoping at the time that I had the skills, 'cause we were just kind of going off blind faith. And, you know, we just wanted to kind of use the mixtapes to, you know, get creative, get some feedback, to practice, to get better, and, you know, to get a little buzz in the street and that's exactly what happened. - Yeah, 'cause I'm telling you, it was one of those deals where I knew Joe Buzzens before I knew Joe Buzzens. 'Cause I didn't know any songs had people like Joe Buzzens, Joe, it's in it, and that is, it really ended up-- - That's kind of how everything's been happening with me from the door, and even now that's kind of-- Even now that's kind of still happening. With a video, we'd pump it up, and so forth and so forth, people seem to, you know, know the music a lot more than they know the face. - Yeah, which made me confused yesterday when I just played myself, when I had to edit that. - Which made me confused when I watched the MTV Battle, and you guys performed, and you had-- Who was on stage with you? Was it-- are you're hype men here? It was you? - Webb was on stage. - Webb was on stage. - And, ah, my other hype man-- Believe it or not, I'm a radio dude, you know, but I'm an XM guy, I'm in here in the studio all day, so I try to catch the videos and come up, I haven't seen, I haven't seen Pump it up yet, and so I was like, which dude's Joe Buzzens, which ones, and then I figured out, your Joe Buzzens? - How'd you figure it out? - I got this instinct, I just say it's a natural, I'm so gully is what it is, that I just, I went, I went, who's the most gully dude on the night? The camera, they kept showing you enough, I was like, all right, that's Joe Buzz, and I could actually hear the voice. The voice is unique, you do stick out, you have to do so. - Did you hear my voice? - My voice is twisted, I have some problems with my voice. - What's going on? - I got a pal up on my right vocal cord. - All right, explain, not everyone's, you know, down with the vocal cord, turn it over. - Me neither, I'm just saying what the doc said. I don't know what it is or what, no, it's kind of like growth. It's growth on your vocal cord, isn't it? - But it's okay, sounds like you're not like-- - Oh, no, no, no, it's all right, it's all right, I'm just not supposed to be talking right now. - Well, I appreciate you. - Yeah, but I'm talking. - Going against the doctor's wishes-- - 'Cause you're gully. - 'Cause this shows gully and this shows big, that's what this is. Who are your influence, I know everyone asks that, but all seriousness, who are your all-time favorite episodes? - You know what, I've never been asked that. - Really? - I'm joking. - Thank you. - I picked up on the sarcasm in case I didn't. No, but for real, I really do, I am curious, like what do you really enjoy? - All-time favorite MCs, let's see. I gotta have been listening to everybody, like, I mean, let me just go back to the '80s, who was I listening to? - Well, I was listening to Racham, Run DMC, L, Cool J. My brother was playing Rad of Kingpin, so I was listening to that. - Hey, I don't hate on Rad. There's nothing wrong with that. - No, there's nothing wrong with it at all. MC, Chan, you know, you got Big-L, Lord, Finaz, you got-- - D-I-T-C. - The whole D-I-T-C. - By the way, can I just say right now, while we're getting into that runaway slave, show, Biz and A-G is an absolute classic that is often, often, slapped on. - Please talk about it, show, Biz and A-G, let's get into that one. - Yeah, I mean, Jay-Z just mentioned them on the song, so they got a little bit of light on the Missy song, they finally got some love. They must have, show, Biz's family must have a heart attack when they heard Jay-Z mentioned. They must have gotten a phone call. - The people that really know hip hop, they don't know what show, Biz and A-G contributed. - But people get more into the Diamond D album and they forget a little bit about runaway slave, which is what they were both like. - People forget about the Diamond D-A-M. - They do forget about that too. - Well, you gotta really be talking about people that know about hip hop and rap music, though. - But this D-I-T-C was good-ish. I mean, and Lord Finaz, all that stuff. - Oh, man. - Funky technician, in terms of the Funky man, it's all good stuff. - Oh, retarded and funky man. A lot of your listeners are pretty cool. - And what happened to DJ Mike Smoothe? Well, it was Finaz and DJ Mike, what happened, man? - It might have been a good behind the scenes fight of something going on with DJ. - Who knows? It is sad, though. So you kind of got the, basically though, the East Coast Underground classics, you know? - Yeah, yeah, I was definitely into all of that. - And what about your label mates now? I mean, cats like Red Man and Sedera, et cetera. - I mean, Red Man, I mean, I listen, I listen to everything, everything, everything. Red Man's first album in the classic, too. But anyway, yeah, I pretty much listen to everything. That goes from rock to rap to R&B to jazz. - What rock do you like? - Gospel, I'm an Aerosmith fan, I'm a Creed fan. - Are you an 80s kid or a late 70s kid? - No, I don't know. - How old are you? - I'm an 80. - 80? - 80 kid, I'm 22. - You are? - I'm an 80 kid, yeah. - You're younger than me? This is depressing. - How old are you? - I'm 23. - Oh, you're about the year, I'm about 27, 28, 29, then. - Because all other albums are 29 and 38. - No. - But you know, when your name's been out so long, I was like, damn, that's so, you were young when the buzz was first getting out there. - Yeah, yeah. - Again, making my life look more and more pathetic and years looking more aggressive. You met Carson Daly, I'm hanging out here with, you know. - Hey, I did get to meet Carson Daly. That was pretty interesting. - And I was listening to me though, too, that on the MC battle, they're like, you know what? Let's get Carson on the MC battle. And he was like, sometimes when people are kicking the rhymes, it's like, they're so deep into it. I was like, Carson, I didn't know you grew up in the battle scene. I mean, I know, it is obligatory if you're white now to go to MC battles, I know, but I didn't know Carson. - Carson was representing this. - Why are you pseudo-dissing Jay-Z on the little pump it up freestyle? - I didn't pseudo-diss Jay-Z. - Did you outright-diss Jay-Z? - I didn't outright-diss Jay-Z. - I was in the car listening to it coming up from North Carolina, and I heard it in a mix show, and I was like, I think it sounds like, 'cause you said kind of like you gave him respect, but you also kind of, I thought you were- - Have, but what part made you say that? - I don't honestly, I've heard that you went like three or four times, I don't remember the word for word, but were you, have people, other people ask you the same thing? - Of course, everybody asked me that. - It sounds like you're taking a shot at him. - Well, everybody said that. - And then it sounds like he responded, 'cause he did a little fre- Oh, it was his freestyle first. - Yeah, it was his first. - His was first, and now people put it together, like it's the same song, isn't it? - Exactly. - But were you not poking Jay-Z? - No, no, no, not at all, not at all. I mean, he happened to do a freestaff is, you know, mixed tape that he was putting out for his sneaker, me coming from the mixed tapes, and you know, just being a fan of him and the music in general, it was only right that I come right behind him and put some bars there, so I had to do that, but I was not dissing him, I wouldn't do that. I'm not here for no drama with nobody. - Yeah, good, I don't want you playing that game. You seem like a good, smart, nice guy. Why play that game? - I don't want any problems. 'Cause I had beef, you know, I used to- - Me and MOP used to go at it, you know? No, I'm just kidding, I try to avoid beef as well. And I forgot CNN's supposed to be up here in a minute and they're gonna stomp the issue out of me. - Yeah, they'll be up there. - I'm not gonna touch anything about that. But tell me, what are you up pumping in the whip right now? You have anything interesting pumping your car right now that people are not expecting? What is Joe Budden's playing in my car? - Everything in my car is unexpected. - 'Cause you're surprising me then. - Let's see, what's in my car? I got Joe Budden in my car, but that is- - I'm surprised at this. Now, what am I listening to? Avril Lavent, I'm listening to- - Well, that's surprising and disappointing. Why are you listening to me? - Whoa, me and you about to have a big problem. - Then tell me something good about Avril. - Barry, second. - Me and Avril about that, we had to have to pound him out. - Tell me about Avril. - He did this Lala and he's got a problem with Avril. - Tell me about Avril then, tell me what's good about it. - That CD is crazy. - That's good? - It's crazy. - But Skater Boy is whack, I gotta tell you- - No, no, no, I don't listen to that. - Okay, so tell me what's good about it. - Honestly, I haven't heard the album, so tell me what's good about it. - Okay, okay, I don't know, but I skipped that one. Everything else on it, aside from that, and maybe two other joints, CD is definitely the time. - I appreciate that. - Avril Lavent, listen to it. - I like pop, so what do you think about- I've asked everyone this recently. What do you think about the drama that the Dixie Chicks went through a couple weeks ago with the- Tell me about that. - Do you know what happened? I know you've been busy listening. I don't know what happened with the Dixie Chicks. - Do you know anyone here who happened in the Dixie Chicks? It's a big news story. - What happened to them? - For them. - The Dixie Chicks were, this is an old month ago now. They were overseas in England the day before the war started, and they said we want you guys to know that we're embarrassed to be from Texas, 'cause President Bush is from Texas, for some of our slower listeners. And the response from the country world was like, radio stations dropped their records, the people had, there were protests where people would burn Dixie Chicks CDs. I mean, people broke into one of their houses, threatened them all because they said they're not proud to be from Texas, 'cause so you as an artist, and someone who freedomless speech is important to, aren't curious your opinion on that. - Oh my goodness, Craig, what's the world coming to? - Bush rose deep. - Bush has thugs everywhere. - He does. - So they should have known from the door what was gonna jump off. - Why? Being that President Bush is a questionable character, at least in the urban world, why is it rappers don't take more direct swings at the president? Do you think they're scared they're gonna come up in the river if they say something about him? - He's a jerk. - Hey, Joe Buns is saying it right here, this is a dust-filled-on exclusive. President Bush is a jerk. - Maybe I shouldn't have said that, considering what happened to Dixie Chicks. (laughing) - The difference is-- - Oh my God, there's a bunch of stokes now! (laughing) Oh my God! The difference is Joe Buns fans aren't gonna start burning tapes, 'cause you just, the president don't think. But, I mean, do it really-- - We'll ride out. - Don't you think-- - White House. - Don't you feel like people, don't you feel like it's the biggest names in the game, made like an anti-war record, it could have like a big effect on-- - Yeah, but see, that's the difference between hip-hop and the '80s and hip-hop now. I mean, back then, you'd have got a self-destruction, you'd have got a, you won't be getting any of that now. - Why? - Because we'd rather talk about our ice and our rims, and killing, and guns, and violence, and death. - Oh my God, there's a bunch of stugs! - That being said though, you're a new artist, what do you do to make that different? - I'm not in awe of that. - I'm not, I never killed anybody. - So-- - Really? - No. - Get out of here though. - I only interview happened to kill people. You know what I mean, no street cred. Like I said, this show's gully, you better kill some people and then come back. Go kill someone in the hallway and come back. (laughing) So you have some, so what's on your album then? What makes you different? What makes the buttons album different? - What makes the Joe Button album, well, there's no killing. But we might've killed a couple of people. - Yeah, get a couple in there. - I killed maybe a couple of people on now, but I didn't kill people the whole entire-- - You got to fix some faces? You got to fix a few faces? - People, no, people got fixed up, but you can fix me well without killing them. - That's true. - Yeah, well, somebody else might fix them up or kill them. - So tell me-- - But no, the album, a lot of it is personal. Like, it's artistic expression for me. Like, every time just speaking from experience, it's ventilation, it's therapeutic, it's auto. What's the word? Auto. That's the word. Shout out the cut mask to see, biographical. I was scared to mess that one up. - Auto biographical. - Auto biographical. - Auto biographical, that's seven syllables. How often do you say a seven syllable word? - That's not sevens, auto bi, you're smart. - Joe Buns is smart. - Team. - You just knew, that's my, I don't know. Let me see that. Hold on, it's probably on my hose real quick. No. Seven, seven, but let's play a game then. Oh, I got a new game to play with Joe Buns. I'm gonna say a word, you tell me how many syllables. Instantly. - How come you're the one that's that? No, you didn't see, under the table, I was counting like you just counted. - No, okay. - But you did it fast then, that was fast. - Yeah, it was interesting. - Do it right. (laughing) - You got to do it real quick. - That was a bad one though, you got to do like six-- - Anti-disestablishmentarianism. - Oh yeah. - All right, well, this interview is getting entirely too nerdy. - It's not a gully word. - This isn't gully at all, right? - Back to gully. - Let's play pump it up real quick for the kids, 'cause this is bubbling in the streets right now. - I fixed somebody up and pump it up. Did I? - I don't know if you fixed anyone up. - The club is around a lot. - Yeah, man, the song is doing well. - You clicked a little bit. - You clicked a little bit. - Oh, wait, at the end of the song, somebody got fixed up. - Oh, you fixed? - Oh yeah, somebody, yeah, exactly. Somebody got fixed up with the other song. - Get your gets ready, we're gonna play pump it up and come back with some more gully my burner. - Oh, we're gonna bust some shots and get some exclusive music from Joe Bunn's, next on "Still Done." - Yeah. - See what the beauty is, we're recording, so we can just keep talking. So you don't have to wait for an exclusive. - Yeah. - Do you have any heat exclusives or? - Yeah, hold that on there. - Oh! - There's some holes. - And it's clean. - Here you go. - Oh, it is? - This is for my program, Dr. B. Bryan. - Now you take that. - That's clean. - Okay, cool. - Wonderful. With bust arms too. - Pump it up with clean too. - Pump it up with clean. The whole song's there? - Yep. - There's no dirty version? - Wow, you make it easy for the DJs. - Yep. - I like that. All right, here we go. Come back. Three, two, one. - And now! - Pump it up! - That's-- - Bernie. - You know why? How do you feel at some of the old school haters and be like, man, why you'd have to jack the scenario remix? I think it's tasteful though. - Well, I think it is. Bust around him thinks it is. - He's not mad at it. - Yeah, he's not mad at all, so. - Yeah, well, and also, but the thing is, at least you came with a heater. If you're gonna borrow from a great classic, you gotta come with a heater. And you came with a heater. - Yeah, you can't just take a record and jack it and jack it up. - Right. - Especially with a classic. You can't touch a classic with that. - Yeah, and scenario remiss was definitely a classic record. - Oh, one of my all time favorites. - Mine is well. - That old beat. Oh, yeah, but let me not get into all that. - What do you think doing tribes and get back together? You think they're gonna mend it and come back? - I hear rumors about it. - I hear they got an album coming out. - That's what I hear too. But the powers that be a jive say they don't really know. They haven't heard anything about it officially. So it's very... - Powers that be, Shmowers that see. - They have another album. - Oh yeah, they do have another album left in their kind. They're supposed to have another album. - Yeah, they're supposed to be doing one, but hopefully it's old tribe. - Yeah. - That's all I know. - Were you not a fan of a lot of people didn't like love movement and beat tribes in life? I liked them myself. Were you, do you not like them? - You thought it was a fall off from Midnight Road? - It wasn't. Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely. - Yeah, it was a step down. - You can't compare that to Midnight Road. - Do you think M&M ruined the game for every white rapper in the future? Like, I mean, come on, let's be honest. Like, you hear a white cat now, especially a battle cat. And you're just, that's the thing in the MTV battle. And I'll tell you right now, it wasn't very impressive the entire battle overall. But, I mean-- - We're gonna get in it. I got some questions to ask you about that, but anyway. - Yeah, I'll ask me questions. - Hey, we're gonna reverse this. - All right, let's reverse it. Let's do this. Well, I'll just tell you real quick. I think M&M raised the bar. My inclination is, and keep in mind, I hate most white people, including myself tremendously. But when I see white cats who battle, automatically I think you start thinking of M and M eats people up. I mean, to me, and I initially hated on M when he first came out. I have him at the top five MCs all time. I think M&M is incredible. - I haven't yet, too. - He's very tough to beat. You go statistic-wise, he's hard to beat. I mean, every category is-- - But I don't think of, I think he raised the bar period in general. Like, not just for white rappers, for black rappers, Asian rappers, any rapper. He raised the bar period, the boy is nasty. Very, and guys like that are hard to come by. Far and few. - Were you a pun fan? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I want a pun in M to do a song to you. - Pun, M, all the lyrical dudes, I'm a fan of. - G-rap. - G-rap, another one. - Raskas, another one. - You know what's going on with Raskas right there? - Yeah, man. - What the hell are you doing? - But he's in every magazine. I don't understand how to get one. I don't understand. - Why can't the police find Raskas in every magazine? - He's in every magazine. - But no, in case you didn't know, I was talking about this with my man, shout out to Fontaine from "Little Brother" who was telling me about this, that I didn't know Raskas got another DWI or DUI, and now the police want him, but the reason he's going to jail is 'cause he already once killed someone when he was driving drunk. And now I'm a Raskas fan. - They spoke about that on his first album. - Right, and he did talk about it, but I'm a Raskas fan, but I have to tell you, dog, if you killed someone drinking and driving, and you're caught drinking and driving again, it was nice knowing you, buddy. If I killed someone drinking and driving, and I'm sorry, if anyone ever killed anyone, drinking and driving, I feel bad. But if if I ever did that, I would be nervous about driving again and drinking again, let alone drinking and driving again. Joe buttons, is that or is it not irresponsible? Tell me. - I think it's irresponsible. - You heard it first. - I don't drink. - You don't drink? Neither do I. - I don't drink. - You want to do a, like a meth and a red man type? - What's that in a Heineken bar? - Shut up, man. But I do wear a free T-shirt, so I was like, am I wearing, I hope not wearing a call 45 shirt. No, you don't drink at all? - No, I don't drink at all. - What about the tweeds, the marijuana? - No, I don't do that at all. - None of that? - No. - Neither do I. I think we should get together and do an album. I mean, my beatbox kind of, it's all right. - We should get together and maybe get sober some time. (laughing) Let's just switch it. - Well, hang out, top politics someday. - You beatbox for real? - No, I don't beatbox. Okay, you wanted to ask me questions about the battle, Joe buttons, let's flip the script, ask a question. - So why didn't you, what artist, like, why didn't you like the people that were involved? - I just, okay, the dude, Red Dot, who's from this area, actually, he was in the final four. I mean, like, there's something to be said, obviously, it's an MC battle, so battling's the most important criteria. But if your voice sounds like ish, - Okay. - And I just thought it, well, I don't know, like, first of all, I think it was good that they started disqualifying people 'cause honestly, I mean, I'm not just saying this because I love everyone, I'm very PC, but when it's all about gay homo this and homo that, I just think it's wack, like, just be, and it's like, if you're gonna keep it clean, keep it clean, don't go so close to the fringe the entire time. Like, all people talk about it was penises and it's a little bit homoerotic if you ask me anyway to keep talking about that stuff. But, I don't know, I just wasn't thoroughly impressed. Maybe I just saw eight miles. So I'm like the, you know, Craig G wrote some hot battles for people, so I was in that mobile. I don't know, I just wasn't that impressed. And to be honest, I'm really skeptical of when MTV does anything that's like supposed to be super hip hop, it's hip hop week, you know, my whole life. Since your MTV rap's went off the air, me and MTV's relationship has gotten worse and worse. - So you didn't, like, anybody in the battle at all, every week? - The last guy who didn't win. I liked the guy, the-- - From LA? - The dude from the West Coast, I liked him better. I thought he, at least I thought he won that last round. I thought he won that round. Oh, and the chick was tight. I thought the chick was pretty good too. - I liked the chick. When the other dude carried it on, said to see a man with a dress that just kind of made me feel awkward at home. The whole thing was kind of awkward at home, 'cause it was live, you know what? I was nervous for everyone. I was like, ah, 'cause it's on that, and it was for 25 Gs, that's a big deal. I mean, that's someone's life right there. - Yeah, definitely. - I mean, are they really gonna get a Def Jam contract, or like a real contract, or like, we'll put out a promo single that'll go to DJ's and they won't play it? - I have no idea. - I mean, I hope Joe Budden's deal was sweeter than whoever this guy's getting, 'cause I don't think it's gonna be that sweet a deal. If I know Kev Liles, I know he's smart. He's not throwing him whole racolute on the first one. But I mean, it's interesting. Like I said, I'm just skeptical MTV. Hey, you wanna play an exclusive? - What's playing exclusive? - You brought me, everyone knows-- - What'd you bring? - Oh, my exclusive, oh, my bad. - I'm not gonna give you my heat. That's saving for the summer. I got down with Tony Danza coming out this summer. It's gonna be kind of heat. - Shout out to Tony Danza. - Hala. - Who's the boss? - Good show. - I think so. - Shout out Alyssa Milano. - I think, ah. - Samantha, that's-- - Oh yeah. - That's what I was talking about. - Oh, Samantha. - Samantha. - Samantha. - You see? And that's hip hop. People don't realize that that. Samantha is hip hop. - Samantha is hip hop. - Because how many rappers grew up masturbating to Samantha? - How many rappers is still masturbating? - That's too much to them. - Are so masturbating to Samantha. - How many rappers watched Charmed and don't even make it through their opening credits without masturbating. - Forget Charmed, the commercials, the phone commercials. - Oh, the phone commercials. - 'Cause you have the tight leather outfit. - Oh, I forgot about that. - Oh, man, I slow mo that one all the time. - Joe Buddens, chronic Alyssa Milano masturbator. (laughing) - You should get it on the album. - Oh, man, I should get it in my room. (laughing) You're talking about an album. - All right, this is called Fire, right? - What are you talking about? - Oh, back to the music. Back to the music accident. - All right, this is Joe Buddens with Busta Rhymes Fire. - Yeah. - All right, this will be, we can wrap it up right here. This is long, here we go. All right, that was kinda-- - All right, that was the Tony Dans, oh, no, that was the Joe Buddens. - Don't get everyone excited. - Yeah, I know, it was just me. - It was just Joe Buddens. - Joe Buddens and Busta Rhymes, rapper, dude. You wrap guys. - Kinda hot, honestly, if you want me to get, if you want me to get Dansa for the project, I can try to make phone calls. - If you can get Milano. - Oh, you want Milano on the project? What if I can get you Baukey from Perfect Strangers? I can get you Baukey. - Perfect Strangers is hip hop. Perfect Strangers is hip hop. - That's my favorite joke in the world. You've seen the show, right? - Yes. - The movie, The Show. Who is it? Is it Run? I forget, there's a-- - Don't talk about the show 'cause-- - Because you're gonna have a problem? - Love the show. - You're gonna have a problem? - Love the show. I'm about to get the laser disc. - Alright. - Yeah, I said laser disc. Yeah, I said laser disc. That's hip hop right there. But no, I love the show, but there's a part where they're talking about hip hop and like how, I forget who says it, but they're like, yo, if you do this, it's like that. But if you do it like that, that's hip hop. So, I love sticking stuff like that. Like, who's the boss? That's kinda hip hop, but like Perfect Strangers. That's hip hop. That's hip hop right there. In essence, that's the essence of hip hop. It's perfect. - Shout out to Larry and Baukey. - Yeah, I hope they're doing well in Milwaukee. Have you ever, are you planning on doing a show in Bartokimos? - No. - You want, not no overseas, not trying to hit Bartokimos? - No. - By the way, I'm so surprised at how funny and smart, this is the sound effed up. And I hope it doesn't. But when you, the way I think about hip hop these days and I'm very skeptical about everything, it's so nice to meet someone who's like funny and smart and like, says stuff that's not just like, yeah, the album's gonna be real crunk and real off the hook. - Isn't it good to meet a rapper that can smile? - You can smile and it's smart. - I can smile. - A rapper don't smile. - No, rappers don't, they're embarrassed to smile. Do you dance? - I'm making a face dance. - You don't dance too much, do you? - I dance a little bit. - Really? - A little something. In my room. - I can do it naked. (laughing) - I don't want that, get that image out of my head. Immediately. The girls are excited, but I don't want anything to do with that. Joe buns naked doing the anime like Roger Rabbit is not. - Wait, I'm joking right now. - Oh, that's funny. (laughing) - Yeah, he's half joking. Boys, you're like, this happens every day. And the hook challenge, a pain in the ass, I tell you. - That's funny. - On the road, it's really annoying. He's always getting naked and dancing. - Wait, do you dance a little? Yeah, dance, in my room. All right, all right, yeah. - But do, but do tell us where you get up out of here. What is the plan? How many cities you got in this van denator? How long is this in the quite a few tours over when June 8th? It's not June 9th. Dogs. - We gotta get this clear. - It's not June 9th. It's June 8th. - Settle down, guys. - I'm the boss. Settle down. - Don't get fixed up. Big face, don't play with me. - You'll be out of here just as fast as you were in it. This is show goddamn buns we're talking about. - Hey, can you even say that one more time then? As fast as you got in here, big face, you can get out of here. I've run this show here. This is my camp. You're fired. - Are these, so these are your people from back in here? - No, no, no, hold up for us. - I'm sorry. - I'm fired. Listen, when you walk out that door, you make a right and you make another right. And that's the exit. - Joe buttons is firing his entire staff, ladies and gentlemen. He is derailing. - Yeah, I don't know. I don't play with these dudes, son. - Yeah. - How long have you guys all known each other though? - I just met dude, so he knew that dackett was capable of firing him. I just met him when the tour started. So for him to even come out his mouth stupid like that. Get out of here immediately, man. For real, don't play with me like that. - He came at you real sideways too. - Yeah. - He changed the date on it. - Sometimes you gotta make an example. Yeah, even if my date is wrong, I'm the artist and you listen to what I say. Hey, have you heard of pumping up? - Joe goddamn buttons. - Yeah. - These tapes focus, come as to see. Kids write with me. Def Jam, Kevin Lao. - I let this guy know, man. - You gotta keep naming your things right there. Just going to this. Def Jam, Universal. Kevin Lao's. Red Man. - We're going. - Jay Z. - That's me. Those are my people. - I know Jay Z. - He met Carson Daly. - He met Carson Daly. - Yeah. - He knows Lao guys. So settle down. - Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. - Sorry, sorry, sorry. - Whoa, whoa, whoa. - Whoa, whoa. - My bad, my bad, my bad. - We have Lao's security in the building. - My bad. Lao's brother's up here. I didn't know that. - Oh man. - Oh, Troy, this is my trans mic. - His mic is off. His mic is off. Oh, his mic is on. - That's it. That's it. - Oh, that was funny. - I appreciate, I appreciate it. - Now the toys should be over June. - It's fine. You want to carry Carson Daly? I can do that all day. - The toys should be over June 7, I think, because I'm supposed to do the Puerto Rican day parade, which is June 8. - Are you Puerto Rican? - No. - You just have to do hanging out. - I just look like Puerto Rican. - You do. Do people speak Spanish to you in New York all the time? - Yeah, and I say no compared to you. - Where are you from in New York? - I'm from Jersey. - I'm from Jersey. - I'm from New York. - I'm from New York. - I'm sorry, I'm messing up, man. - Where do you live right now? - Where in Jersey? - So where do you consider yourself a Jersey cat? - I've read Jersey, man. - Hey, keep it real. - Yeah, I've read Jersey. I don't do nothing with all that. - Can I say this? Were you an artifacts fan? - New York thing. - They had a song, though. - Wrong side of the tracks? - There you go. - Yeah, they had a whole album, buddy. They had two albums. - No, but I like that one artifact song. - No, no, no, they had another song, too. - Did I want to get down? - No, no, no. - Dynamite soul? Art of facts? - No, they had another banger. - Hot? - The ultimate? - Not gonna be able to do it. - That was double X-Poss. - That was double X-Poss. - You just played yourself. - Whoa, hold on. - Oh, if you wanted to program direct, I swear, boy. - You would have a big problem with me right now, but I need you. - Don't ever confuse double X-Poss. Don't ever do that. Headcracker. - Shout out to Sugar Ray and him. - Do you know how those guys doing? - They're high, man. They still trying to do it. - Really? - Yeah. - They got T-Ray still? C-Ray still doing beats? - No. - All right, his day is coming going. That's neither here nor there. We'll talk about washed-up rappers a whole 'nother show. Joe Buns, I hope you're never in that category. - I certainly hope that I'm never in that category, and if I am, I hope that you don't tell the people. - Well, hey, listen. I hope that if you are in that category, you still come back and do my show, 'cause I'll be in the washed-up radio personality category. - We can do a whole washed-up show. - We can do shoe stuff together. - And we can talk about Lottie and everybody else. - No one will care. I'll just be my basement. No Lottie. If Webb's still around, but you'll be able to move on by now. - If I'm washed-up, you'll be- - Webb will be on to the next rapper. - You'll have a new hot artist. You won't need Joe Buns anymore. - Exactly. - Hey, I really appreciate you coming by, man. - No, thanks for having me. - And I really wish you good luck for the rest of the tour in the album and all that stuff. - Thank you. - And I'm really sorry about what I said about Lottie. I take that back. - Please take it back. - Joe, we need nice rappers, man. - I'm all about nice rappers. - I'm a nice guy. - I'm a nice guy. - Tim Duncan. How you doing with that? - No, but Tim Duncan is a softie. - No, come on. Was he soft when he knocked out the Lakers last week? What, 44 points on like that? - He's a softie. - That wasn't soft. - In the locker room, I'm sure Shaq probably fixed him up. I don't know if Kobe fixed him up because Kobe was crying. - Kobe's soft too, man. - Kobe speaks French. He grew up in France and Italy, wherever he grew up. He's real soft, but he's not soft. - Did you see when he punch Rick Fox in the face? - Rick Fox got fixed up. - That was the battle of two pretty players. - Pretty boy. - And they say, you know, I just fixed dude up. I'm gonna cut on my hair off. I'm gonna go boy, man. Now these dudes know about me. I fixed them up. - I'll tell you this though. Rick Fox, Rick Fox was Jackson Vayhu on Oz though. I wouldn't mess with him on Oz. - On Oz, he did look like a tough guy. - He did look real. Jackson Vayhu broke that dude's violin for no reason. He just broke it. - Hey, that was messed up. - That was messed up. - That was messed up. - I didn't do it. He was there for like one episode. - I know, and then he ends up like killing himself or something, because the whole thing. Are you excited for one more season of Sopranos? You gotta be psyched about that. - No, I'm not. - You're not a Sopranos fan? - No, not. - I thought you wrapped Jersey, man. That's wrapping Jersey to the utmost. - Is Sopranos is not like it used to be? - What season you like? Two is the best one you think? - Two, one. - One's good. - One to three. - I missed the grandmother. The grandmother was off one to three. Now, and the grandmother was real gangster. - It's like ever since they came to Jersey, and I don't know what's going on, man. I wish him well. - We don't have an applause button. This is us doing a lot. - No, we gotta do a lot. We're doing it real. I appreciate it, man. - Thanks for having me again, man. - Top the album, kids. - Yeah. - That's it. - Oh, Jim, Jim. I'll get the date. - He'll do it, he'll do it, man. - And you have drops for me, too? - Yeah, I need you to do drops for me. - I knew that. [BLANK_AUDIO]