[Music] Welcome along to the latest offering here on the left wing whack podcast. As always in association with Porey Doh Motors, have a hotel carloque, Corliss Bors, Orcsbars, PFT travel, Morley's Byron Ballomorphy, and Ray Whelan Limited. We are building up to a bumper encounter at the weekend. It is a neighborly encounter, whether it will be a competitive one or not, remains to be seen. It is Carlo Worsley Kenny, it's a big deal for Carloavians, and it's a big deal here for the left wing whack podcast because we have a former horror of the year, an all-around winning capital at the Kenny on Larkin on the other side of the screen here. Larkin's good to chat to you. How's things, man? Well, Kevin, you know. Yeah, so we're going all right. I suppose down here in Carlo on it's an exciting time. We're obviously up in the car to this year. We've been very competitive in our first two games. The score line mightn't have reflected so against Galway, but it was certainly a close encounter for the lion's share of that game, and we're pipped off by a scotry goal. Again, Dublin. So I think there is wild excitement from a Carlo point of view, but I gather it, not that I gather it, it was suspected slightly different from a Kenny perspective this Saturday, in that they're there to take care of business. Yeah, well, I suppose that'll be the be all the end all. You know, if you can, you're going out to Carlo and out to pick up two points. I don't think any of the lads that were missing the last day are going to be back or risk in any way. So we're going to be under strength going down there, but look from a Kenny perspective, nor disrespect to Carlo, they'll be expecting to go down and get two points. But look, as you said, Carlo have been very good in the championship so far. Don't seem to have been out or depths were well in the game, but maybe 10 minutes to go against Galway, and Galway just pulled away, but we've seen what happened Galway last week as well. And then obviously against Dublin, as you said, kind of a dubious goal, kind of settled the thing. And I suppose that's where Carlo had to improve, you know, the seem to stay in the game for long periods and just, you know, can leave in a softball and that kind of custom against Dublin. So they'll be looking to improve on that. And look, you can see Carmel Ali is getting the stamp on things that was taking a couple of years, but players seem to be really playing for him and giving everything for the Carlo jersey. So look, it's going to be an exciting game. Obviously, it's not going to, they probably won't define Carlo's year this weekend. You know, I had not had a couple of games coming up against Antriman. Probably, they'll probably fancy themselves again, Wexford as well. But look, they'll give it everything, you know, as they always do, and they'll have great support there as well. So it's going to be a great evening. Yeah, sure it is, man. And I think from maybe Carlo's point of view, why there is a kind of a broad concern, that broad concern for a broader maybe outlook that Carlo might not be as competitive or not be as in with the chance of a squeak, as maybe some of the other games in it, is because traditionally down through the years, Kenney always seem to take care of business in a professional manner. When it comes to a fixture like this, that the show be winning, like look at Antrim there, for example, or to get him and have to get them and have to still hockey him. But they don't seem to get caught like maybe Wexford have over the last couple of years, like the standards are up there with the Kenny and they rarely seem to drop, like go back to your time, go back before that, the focus, the sharpness. What do you think that is, is it because there's such competition and if you take your way off the ball, the next lad is in. Yeah, it's a, I think it's probably, you know, a clatter of things together. I think mentality is probably the one word I use there because, you know, holding in general skill wise and all that kind of stuff does not much between many teams, but like just going back to Galway, you know, Galway should have been able to take care of Xford, you know, on paper and such, but just weren't able to do it. And it seems to be a mentality thing, kind of a weakness up there over the years. It doesn't seem to be getting rid of, be gotten rid of. To Kenny, on the other hand, you know, as you said, we're, we're able to take care of business, we're able to, I suppose, put things aside and just be mentally prepared that it's going to be a challenge no matter who you're facing. And, you know, we seem to be able to do that no matter if it's parallel or if we're coming up against clear or limerick, we just seem to be able to get the best out of ourselves. It might not was sure of the scoreboard, but we're able to get over the lane and win. And I think that's probably that's probably the biggest difference. Carol, on the other hand, I think, you know, and probably just sort of shackles off maybe and go actually Kenny and, you know, with nothing to lose, kind of a thing. And like I said, probably the week's for a game and the actual game then is last, is going to be probably the two to find a moment for Carol in Carolo's year this year. So they can grow with, you know, no, Hawes Bar just sort of shackles off and have it go on. If it works, it works. And if it doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't just move on. But I think from Kenny's point of view, mentality is probably the biggest thing. Speaking of Gollywood there, obviously your former teammate is up there pulling the strings the last couple of years. We call it there's a perception out there during the week that Henry has been insulated from criticism because of who he is. And I appreciate that's a tricky question to be asking you. But is he been insulated because of who he is? Or what do you call always kind of inconsistencies down there? Yeah, no, I don't think he's been insulated. I think people around the country just know, you know, this just hasn't happened. We call it over the last two or three years since Henry's been there. This is an unwanted, you know, offered last however many years, 30 years, and all the $1 in 2017, but even before that, it seems to be just, you know, the lack that killer instinct, the lack that mentality that you need at your county level. And I think that's, I think that's the basis of where Galway are at, you know, they have the horrors, they have the physique, they have the fitness, they have everything, you know, they have all the stuff in the background, the background team, all that. It's mentality in the players, I think. Just seems to be a little softness there. And, you know, it doesn't seem to, no matter who goes in there, it doesn't seem to be able to be gotten rid of. And, you know, ultimately, that's going to cost them in the end. You know, they seem to slip up when you expect them, when you're really expecting to kick on the slip up, and, you know, that can only be wanting and that's meant healthy. Yeah, gotcha. And just to bring about the car then for a moment. So you obviously, a couple of years there with Balen Killen, and the progress that they had made was tangible. You had probably a disappointing year, the fourth year, even though they're competitive a lot of the games. But you're a poke for Balen from getting to a final in 2022, same one has just tipped you off in the end. And then we're done to win the final, comfortably against Bynostown. But where did you see the late land with Carla Horlan in your two years there in terms of maybe a standard? And how good are our players there, do you think, at the minute? Yeah, the standard in Carla is very good. And, like you said, I've seen that for the two years, I was there. I think the biggest thing is trying to get lads to commit. You know, I'm trying to get lads to buy into the whole thing. And that seems to be an issue down there. I'm not sure how you change it. You know, lads have so much going on. They have soccer, they have traveling. You know, lots of lads are going to travel. But, look, I think that the panel that Tom Lally has assembled seem to have committed to them. And, you know, they're fully impressed in the challenge. And, I suppose, winning the job back on it last year was a big help to keep lads, you know, more there to try to kick on and that kind of stuff. But even at club level, I think, you know, I have to get more, I won't say more commitment when they turned up, they are committed. But they just have so much, so many other things going on in life. And it's like Danny Henny here. I see it. I'm involved with her own club here this year as well. So, I see it even into Henny. It's just trying to get lads to fully commit to teams, because there's so much going on in life. lads want to go traveling, you know, to want to get a good education. Now, I'm not saying that we didn't want to do that either, but it just seems to me, Harlan seems to be kind of a back-burner thing now. And, you know, if I'm free, I turn up and if something else going on, you know, I'll do that instead. So, I don't know how you change it. You know, I suppose I just have a different mentality. Harlan was always number one for me. And, you know, everything else came on the back-burner, but that's just the way I suppose to say he's gone and life is gone. I think we just have to accept that when trying to get the best of lads when we haven't. I think it's interesting that, you know, you're talking about James even as well with that, are you? Yeah, yeah. That's really interesting, because we would have always thought, and even to this day down here, you know, that it is still kind of number one and lads may be. What I should say, I suppose, that I thought that was more of a carloting. Yeah. Possibly kind of where we're at with our standard rather than maybe a TK where it's always number one. But it's just really interesting to hear that now that lads are, look, I mean, J-1s are not faking unusual lads. We're going on them for years. But definitely, I see where we're coming from in your time when lads know there's a sniff of a championship. They probably won't be going anywhere sort of a team, which I've kind of seen a bit of a change of a landscape now. Yeah, you see, when I was down in Carrol, Ballagil, and I was away from the, from her own club for a good lot of the year. So I didn't maybe see as much of it, and maybe it was going on then. Well, definitely, when I was in Carrol, I seen that that was a problem. And obviously now when I'm back involved in the club, I can see it's a big problem as well for us. Now, look, when we do get them trained, they give everything, and you know, it is number one. It's just, it seems to be, you know, and lads want to do their traveling and things like that. So you can't really, you can't really blame for that either. I just, I'm, I suppose I'm of a different mentality. And I just heard them was always number one for me. I have no interest in traveling or anything like that. I just wanted it. I just wanted a horn and that was issued. Still wanted a afraid agent and buddy stopped me from doing that push. Look, I just love to see, you know, 20, 25 lads, you know, a turn-off for every transition, making the sacrifices and hopefully getting the reward at the end of it. What was the lake when Brain gave you the shout-in this year to come on forward? I should look. I didn't expect it. It was the first thing. I was, I was totally shocked when the four car came because I thought it would never happen. I just taught me seven brain might be of different personalities and, and that kind of thing. So look, it was a huge shock for the former sports. Like I said to me, when I, when I broke the news to horror, I said, look, when Brain Corey comes, Carl, you don't really say an or look. So, you know, and again, I love the club and I want to give it, stop back to the club as well. So I had to, I had to take them up in the after and the later they did, you know, I totally enjoyed it. Yeah, steadily. And what you can learn from, I suppose, there was, Oh, sure. This is it. Look, he's the best manager of all time. You know, I had 12 years under him. He taught me, it's cool. And, and now I'm seeing a different item as well. So, he's taught me an awful lot about horror and show me horror career. And I'm sure I'll learn loads through the quotient side of it as well. It's interesting. Like, and I'm not going to say that I know you inside out or whatever, but I would see similar traits with yourself and brain like there's definitely stubbornness. There certainly is that. Yeah. That's one of the things we said, are you gone? Well, the two, two here are very stubborn, but I suppose there is similar traits there. You know, he's single-mindedness. I'd like to think I'm like that as well. So, I'm committed here just to post a classroom, which is great. Exactly. Exactly. And that's, that's what it's all about. Look, I'm sure we will have our, our little little arguments throughout the year with team selection and things like this, but look, that's part and parcel of any management team. You know, I haven't gone into it. But my eyes firmly shot at me like that. So, you know, there's going to be a bit of give and take throughout the year and look, I suppose the two of us are evened as well. Yeah, but that's because you bought one the best for James Stevens, which is the most important thing. Yeah, that's the most important team. Look, it's not about me or brain or anyone else in the back room team. It's about the players and about James Stevens and trying to do the best to very best we can for them. Yeah, for sure. I just imagine now, um, as, as raw as I might be for a young lad going up, that you was going on a J1. I mean, the brain is, I don't know. I be terrified of myself to this day if it was going on. Yeah, well, believe it or not now, there's, well, I don't think we have too many, uh, going on J1s, but like brain is very approachable that way as well. Like if, you know, if you're a plant soccer or you weekend away or something like that, but he's very approachable that way. And I think he's probably mellow the small bit as well. I'm realized that it's a club scene now and I'm not an intercounty team. Her lads are kind of you know, chomping at the pit again to it. You know, this is kind of a lower level. Well, I won't say a lower level. That's probably the wrong word, but it's not intercounty like. Yeah, it's not intercounty level. And you know, things like that lads do have to live lives and, you know, will have families and girlfriends and waves and all that kind of stuff. So, um, like I said, he's very approachable and very good to deal with that in that sense. Good stuff. And just a couple of quick ones then, I suppose before we finish up, um, I'll take a quick look at the other game and Linseter, which is Dublin and Andrew. And maybe, you know, while a big topic to be here now in Cardo at the minute is the lack of coverage that we're getting, so we've got, I think, three minutes larks out of the first of Sunday game programs we've spoken to. Tommy Wokey about what we've spoken to Peter Fortuna about what their Peter Fortuna's been fantastic in trying to promote the game up and loud and all the tears down and forwarder. And then I suppose this is definitely example of Jesus that the hovers are never happy, right? But at the same time, to pick the Cardo to Kennedy M was such a poor choice, I thought. And it's not like we won't take anything to this stage because we'll take anything. Whatever game is there, we will take the coverage for a BAG, a go or B, this on the game or the whatever the case may be. I suppose when you look at it then and Dublin Antrim is on this weekend, like, why is it taking these games so far out in advance and like even with that, the choices just seem to be so poor. Dublin Antrim has to be the game of the weekend in Lenzer. Definitely, and I think the GEA are missing the trick here because like, I think, correct me if I'm running wide and all the games run Saturday this weekend, so like they're missing the trick. Like, I really think, especially with RT now and GEA go, all games should be short. And on the RT, or on the Sunday game, then on the Sunday, you know, there should be decent coverage of all games. You know, you need to promote this, you know, for the likes of Carroll and Antrim, these teams come into the Lee McCarty. This is what they want, you know, they want the exposure, they want all that kind of stuff, but the GEA don't seem to be, don't seem to get that, they just seem to want all the bigger teams and will analyze all the big big games and things like that. It should be across the board and it's not, you know, and that's a fault of the GEA. And all the games should be spread out. You know, if lads want to go to maybe two games at the weekend, yes, we can get them there. And if they want to see the rest of the game, yes, they can see. But it's not, it's not later and something needs to be done on that point. What can be done? Well, it can certainly be spaced out and things like that. As regards to television, you have art in, you have GEA going out. Why not use them and why not explain that? You know, but look, this has been a problem over the last 20, 25 years with the GEA. I don't know what the market people in the GEA are at, but they're not doing a good job. Yeah, for Horner only, especially. Peter was given out the other day. It was only a day or two after he was on the podcast. And this is not like a Horner versus football thing, but it's just a comparison example, I guess, where Palt and Kope had the launch, it was not for Joel Mack, Chris, do you think you're like our loading mart? Simple things that make a bit of a difference in terms of exposure. Well, simple things make a big difference that will make a big difference. You know, to the likes of the Carolos and the Amstrons and the teams in the Joel Mack on as well, you have to give them exposure, you know, that they want to get better, they want to improve, they want to come up the grades, and they want to sustain that over a long period of time. You know, and even like, Carolo came up from the Joel Mack Donna last year, they finished part of the group, they're going back down. That's not, that's not good to Carol. You know, you look at Antriman and Westmeade coming up over the last couple of years and have went back down into the Joel Mack Donna. You need two or three years to bed in, probably first year maybe to get a handle on where we're at, second year maybe build on that and torture then improve. And yes, if we have, if they haven't improved by the torture, certainly regret and back down with the Joel Mack Donna demo, give them three years to bed in and get, get used to it because one year is no good. I taught a great idea, so I was an early promoter team from the John Madonna, we'll get home advantage in honor of games, which, you know, fair light to give them a chance of winning, and a drive the Crow with all these big teams coming to town. I thought it was a brilliant idea, probably won't ever. Probably won't ever happen because teams won't agree to it, but it is a good idea. And like you said, get the crowd behind them, you know, and home advantage in these games is huge. You know, if Carolo had home advantage in most of our games, you know, you'd expect to win, you'd expect to win maybe two of them and maybe take something over, over another one or two as well. So it will give them huge confidence, I think. Yeah, and with the J-A-Ting, the J-A-Go-Ting, it seems that they're just maybe copying past the sky offering and took that. But then I remember John Colwood when all these games were on J-A-Go, like, it doesn't always have to be a full-on production presentation. So like, Jesus, Richie Holg won't let me say that no, because he'll lose work, right? But yeah, it doesn't have to be punished there for all of us. They just put down the camera and put a commentator on it. Yeah, I just played it and just played a game and let whoever wants to watch it, watch it. That's it, J-A-Lake, and I think that's there. I think it's fair enough for me to admit these decisions. Cork and Limerick is going to be an absolute cracker lark. Yeah, I'm looking forward to this. Look, carker, carker, carker are very like Galway in the sense that mentality seems to be a problem down there. They're hitting me some days, you know, but when they're good, they're very good, but when they're bad, they're very bad. But look, you'd hope that they're going to be very good this weekend and they'll give Limerick a challenge. I don't think Limerick are at the standard. They were over the last couple of years. I think there's a few frailties there and look, they're going to be missing Peter Kessie now for the rest of the year as well, so he's going to be a huge loss. But I think if you have the belief going in to beat Limerick, I think teams can get out and Claire proved that. Probably just took her fall off the pedal in the last 10 minutes and then learned from that, I think, but look, I'm looking forward to seeing why carker teams turn up and certainly to have the holders there to take the win there if they really do hold it and believe that it can beat Limerick, but look, it's going to be a cracking game as well. Good stuff. I'm looking forward to Karol Kenny of course. Oh, Larkin, thanks for giving up your claim with Scred, chat here once again, and the very best look, all right. No matter, Kev, thanks a million.
