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The Open: The Vancouver Crowd Gets to the Oilers

Dan and Sat bring in Bik for the Roundtable as they discuss the impact of the crowd at Rogers Arena, how the Canucks handled the Oilers in game 1, and how they expect the rest of the series to develop.

Duration:
29m
Broadcast on:
09 May 2024
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mp3

Dan and Sat bring in Bik for the Roundtable as they discuss the impact of the crowd at Rogers Arena, how the Canucks handled the Oilers in game 1, and how they expect the rest of the series to develop.

This podcast was produced by Josh Elliott-Wolfe.

The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Media Inc. or any affiliate.

[MUSIC] Canucks Central Thursday, it's Dan Reacho and Satyar Shah here in the Kintech studio. Kintech Canada's favorite orthotics provider, powered by thousands of five-star Google reviews. Soarfeet, what are you waiting for? Canucks Central is for enzyme Pacific Vancouver's premier Chrysler.ram and Jeep Superstore on Second Avenue between Canby and Maine or at enzyme Pacific Chrysler.ca. Sat, if you come back down to Earth yet, as Rick Tockett said today and is availability. I don't know if my feet have touched the floor. That's a Reachio problem. Yeah. It's got to come back down to Earth. Did you just make a short joke? Yeah. Are you allowed to make short jokes? Why not? We lost Bix Mike again. Oh, man. It was such a good one too. There it is. Oh, there I am. I'm so back. Just don't move anything. Because Bix, like what? I mean, Bix taller than you, are you saying because he's not tall enough, how many inches taller does somebody have to be to make? I don't know. He's not tall enough. He's not tall enough. It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, it ends with it. It feels like the Brady roast, like how many times can people make the same Kevin Hart as short joke? Like, I don't know. Yeah. Why'd you had to get it in? What's going on? Yes. Bik Desars here. It is a Thursday. Bik, of course, the host of The People Show and co-host of Canucks Central Post Game. And it was a damn good post game last night after the Canucks beat the Edmonton Oilers 5-4. And you know what Thursday means? It's the Canucks Central Roundtable. I'm a roundtable guy. And Rick Tockett is a roundtable guy. He really is. We found out today, Rick Tockett is 100% on Team Roundtable. I'm a roundtable guy. There it is. He's just like us. So good. One of us. One of us. Between that and the sellie after the game? Yeah. Rick Tockett is one of us. Yeah. Let's get to the Open. Welcome to the Open. That's your home. Are you too good for your home? Answer me. All right. So the Open, it's where we bring you the latest on the Vancouver Canucks, our take on it. And I want to get to like moving forward with the series because you know game two is tomorrow and the Canucks did get the one up. I'm usually not a crowd makes a different sky. Why does it feel different this year? I mean, because the crowd's been insane. It's been the loudest I've ever heard this building. And I was speaking to iMac last night, right? Yeah. And he was mentioning that it's different from even 2011 and even 2003 with the West Coast Express era, because at least there was a history of success of getting to the first round. And at one point, getting to the Cup final, of course, but the expectations were higher than just getting to the playoffs and making a first round. We've had such a long drought here this last little bit. Fans are eager to get back a new generation of fans. But also like there is no weight of past playoff failures anymore. Now we talked about 2011 kind of being the ghost for the franchise. I don't feel like it's a ghost in the building right now. No. I don't feel like it. And I mean, I say I'm not really a home advantage guy again, the numbers speak for themselves. It's pretty much 50 50 in the Stanley Cup playoffs over the last decade home teams and road teams splitting all the time. But the crowd at Rogers Arena has seemingly made a tangible difference going to the room last night. You talk to the guys, you know, Lynn Holmes face lit up when I asked them about the crowd and how it helped them continue the comeback last night, how it helped them build momentum. And he even mentioned how the Oilers couldn't hear each other on the ice. They didn't know how much time was left in the game when they were trying to push for the equalizer. But usually I think we overrate home ice advantage. I think we overrate how much a crowd can affect a game last night. For me, felt different. I felt like Skinner shrinking under the loudness of the crowd as the as the comeback continued. His his reaction on the fifth goal kind of doing the teaboeing. I don't have trending anymore, but he kind of did that and was like head down and head to the kneel. And it's like it was a tough one. I would put it to, you know, every action as an equal or greater reaction. Yeah. Think of what the crowd has gone through over the course of the last four years. Right? Jersey's throwing on the ice. Fire chance. At some point, I was always going to flip to the other side. And this is the first chance for everyone to say, look, we had the passion for when you were bad. We're going to have the passion for when you've given us something now. And it might wane a year from now or whatever it is. And hopefully this is the new standard, but I think it's for as much as the fans have gone through. This is their first chance to give it back to the team, say, you're here. So now we'll support you. We'll back you to the best of our ability. And there have been so many moments even through the course of the season. So we've sat in the post game and thought, man, the fans hit every note today. Well, and even going last season, even in the year prior, I think honestly the last two years, the crowd at Rogers has been really kind of felt like a bit of a tide had turned a little bit in terms of just who the crowd is that's regularly going, right? Now, obviously you've had season ticket holders who've been there for, you know, since the beginning even and others who've been there for decades and are still there going strong. But I think there's been a turnover, at least a bit of a mind shift change to how to approach watching a hockey game. Now maybe that's also for a while not having the same level of corporate seats as there had been and maybe that changes with time here with the team resurging as really a huge powerhouse in this market yet again. But I do think this has been palpable. And I think now you're seeing the culmination of that that crowd, which has been improving at Rogers right now now in the playoffs, being the loudest, best home ice advantage we've seen so far in these playoffs and even down for one, still trying to get the guys going with go Canucks go chance, you know, where you'd think in a game where the home team is losing 4-1, maybe the crowd goes a little bit quiet and almost just, it kills the game a little bit. Well, Susie said that today, right? He mentioned he said, "Hey, we were down 4-1, the crowd didn't give up." Yeah. And, you know, after the 4-2 goal, they pick it up again and Rick Talkett mentioned that post game as well last night. And also to just, just on the idea of like the 10-year that was right before this, like the West Coast Express era is still like revered. Yes. It's not as if they had like amazing success. This team has accomplished as much as the West Coast Express era has already. Yeah, but it's still people are like, "Oh, West Coast is like that's when I bought back in." Yeah. And just that ability to have like skinned back in the game as a fan because it was some dire years before West Coast Express and it reinvigorated everyone. And this is, this is kind of that, whether they have more success, less success, whatever it is, there was reasons to be like, "Oh, you know, I fell out of love with the West Coast Express era." They never really happened for people. They adore that group because it brought them back in. And if through 10 years, you found yourself being apathetic, understandably. And now you're like, "All right, I'm back in." And people are falling in love with this team all over again. I think that's a huge element of it too. So the other part about last night, and I want to frame it in a way that, "Hey, moving on to as a series, what do we think and how is this going to continue to develop?" But I felt the Canucks executed their game plan almost not too near perfection. They made some mistakes and the Oilers capitalized on them. That's how they built the 4-1 lead, of course. But it just, the scoreboard didn't feel reflective of the game flow at 4-1 at all. No. And to be honest, Edmonton being up 4-1, they're not going to push as much either, right? And at one point, they got on their heels so much, they were never able to get back on the front foot again until they pulled the Goldie layer, right? And it had a few chances. But it's not as though the Canucks didn't have their chances at 2-0 or even 2-1. 100%. No, I think the Canucks played well. But in terms of, you always have to keep in mind, when 1 team's up 4-1, you're not getting the best offensive effort of the other team. And I think even Sousie today, I thought Sousie was very revealing. He was really good today. He spent 11 minutes holding court with the media. And on those kind of topics, he mentioned, "Well, to be fair, they're up 4-1. When we're leading, we're not pushing as much and everything like that as well." You don't forecheck as aggressively, you do some things differently. And, you know, sidebar real quick, does that not go to the maturity of the group that they're sitting here after that emotional win, having this real sober look at the game and saying, "Yeah, as good as we were when we were up 4-1, we weren't getting Edmonton's best punch at that point." Yeah. And it, obviously, the way the game turns, it starts to fuel a different thought on this. And, "Hey, the Canucks are a lot closer to Edmonton. I mean, I know all three of us were sort of on that train even to begin with before the series, unlike most media outside of this market." Are we unanimous, Conuxon 7? Was that what it is? Yeah. I think so, yeah. Oh, look at us. Didn't consult each other. Yeah. Didn't even consult each other. Look at us. Who would have thought? Who would have thought? But, no, I thought the Canucks exposed a lot of the warts that I expected them to, right? Trying to take advantage of nurse and CC last night, and they were able to do that, scored four of the five goals with those two on the ice. They obviously exposed Stewart Skinner, put him into some tough spots, and he crumbled a little bit as the game went on. And the bottom six, the Lindholm line especially, really, I don't know if we really consider that bottom six, but however we want to phrase it, the Lindholm line proved to be a matchup nightmare for the Edmonton Oilers in game one. Now, the flip side of this as well, of course, the Oilers are going to come back even stronger in game two, but sometimes I look at their roster, I think about the tri-cidal injury, and Reek is still not up to speed, he skated today, but wasn't taking a part in line rushes. I wonder how or what Nablock is going to be able to do to counterpunch some of what the Canucks did yesterday. That's going to be the real fascinating part of as a series unfolds here, the chess match and how these guys kind of play it out. I don't know if he was going to make some drastic changes to how they were playing. Now, maybe he was putting on a brave face about how they felt really good about their game, and they didn't have a ton of breakdowns, and yeah, I mean, I'd call him after the game was like, "First 10 minutes or the third, we were comfortable." Yeah, I mean, yeah, yes, yes, I suppose, if... I mean, nothing really happened the first six minutes of that. Yeah, it's pretty quiet, but the Canucks had the territorial advantage, and then once they got the goal, obviously everything kind of changed, but I do understand to some degree, they gave up the breakaway chance to Garland. That was pretty much the only real odd man chance they gave up, but that was the only real clear cut chance they gave up. The Canucks did a really good job. I thought the Canucks... It became post-to. Yeah, it wasn't an odd man. Yeah, but the Canucks had good chances looking wrong, but I think those chances kind of came off of not so much the rush as much as it was coming off of, well, sometimes it was like three on three rushes and four on fours, and they ended up having a couple of looks or whatever it was, but that's defended well. That's going to happen, right? Well, the Canucks, I thought, did a good job once they were set up in the zone, working the Edmonton Oilers, and that, I thought, allowed them to create a few opportunities. So if they're comfortable like that, I think the Canucks are going to be able to create a bevy of scoring chances if they can get some zone time. I thought it was really interesting last night when JT joined us on the post-king show, talking about how the Oilers felt more conventional defensively, and if then the Nashville. Yeah. And if they have comfort levels in that, and even Susie today was talking about certain things that they felt comfortable in, so I'd be curious to see the evolution of the offensive chance generation as a series goes on, even just kind of doing a re-watch day. It feels like they didn't maximize some things that they could have exploited. So what you're saying is Nashville is the guy at the Blackjack table that just goes completely off the playbook, and throws you completely at it like, well, why would you do that? Why are you playing like this? Well, I think Nashville, because of how aggressive they were, you had to kind of hold back a little bit. Yeah. Right? You couldn't just call their bluff and go in every time, because if you did, you're going to get burned, because we talked about this a lot the last few days, but they always kind of send a guy and be really aggressive with how they try to hit you in for odd chances. Just blow in his own. Yeah. Whatever. So their defensive strategy was rooted in how do we create more offense, whereas the Oilers don't feel that way. Exactly. So you didn't have to play, I wouldn't say scared, but careful. You saw the Canucks be very cautious with how they played, because you kind of had to be otherwise they're going to burn you going the other way. Edmonton doesn't approach the game the same way, right? But I do think Edmonton at the same time is a lot better than what we saw from. Even if dry subtle doesn't play, I think you'll see the better punch. Like six shots through the final periods. It's not going to happen again in this year. I would bet that doesn't happen again in this series. But you mentioned the Lindholm line. Yeah. And how good he was. You have Patterson Lindholm Miller. You're throwing those guys at McDavid and dry subtle repeatedly. That's difficult. That's difficult. But for all the shortcomings, Patterson has had offensively and sure, there are ways he has to improve and do better. Last time was maybe his best game of the class. Defensively, he was an absolute monster, right? But even offensively, I think there was a version of him where he coveted the puck. And that level of aggressiveness, where we talk about moving your feet. Like, given when the puck was at the point, he was coming close to it. He's like, "I want it. I want it." And there was a great play when D2D, and he came for it, and then he just kind of spun off dry subtle and got to the far post before dry subtle could. So if he's moving his feet like that, a goal will come. The one timer on the power play, and basically the only power play chance they really created. He shoots one on his own entry, too. And there was a few times where Hoaglander, tunnel vision a little bit, doesn't see him in the neutral zone. But Patterson is streaking through a ton of speed through the neutral. If Hoaglander makes that pass, Patterson is like striking the fear of God into the Oilers' defense. I do wonder about that one. Of course, Hoaglander has got to see that if Patterson's talking to him. Yes. That's a shared honker bill. Yeah. He's got to be communicating. Yeah. Hey, yeah. Make him know you're here, right? Understand that? That's part of the communication. And I think Hoaglander, he's still adjusting. Maybe it was kind of like the first few games of the Nashville series where... Well, it felt like he held back that line last night. He made a lot of questionable decisions with the puck, where I thought, "Peterson was really good, and Mikayev was really good in spots too." Hey, Mikayev has his shortcomings because he's not finishing. He had like four gradees pouring chances himself. Man, I got to get, you know, none that I'd like to the molecule on him. This guy is just like unbelievably snakebit. Get the olive oil in the water, do the little seance. Isn't that super Mikayev? Isn't that the big thing, soup? It might be soup, you know? Yeah. He's the soup guy. He's a big soup guy. He loves his borscht. There you go. There you go. So when you have, like, the Lindholm part plays his best game probably as a canok last night. I mean, he's been getting better and better and better. The two weeks that they shut him down for seem like a godsend for this guy because he is just up to his game to the next level, and now he's looking like the seven plus million dollar center that he's probably going to be in free agency. But now you add, "Peterson may be finding form a little bit again, and now you're starting to put the puzzle pieces together of what the best version of this Canok's team looks like." And if you're Edmonton, that's a little bit scary. Well, that's the Canok's path to victory is getting the best version of what they can be, right? Now we'll see what Dreycidal's status is. If that's actually a big absence, it chilts things completely. It's almost like a worst-case scenario, game one for Edmonton. Yeah, I mean, like, close to it. Like, what? It has a mysterious injury. You give up a 4-1 lead. David didn't play well. You know, Skinner, after the game, is like, "Man, we've lost this guy's like five times now." It's like, you've planted the seed of doubt in this team after game one. Well, and one thing talk that spoke about today was frustration. Yeah. He says, "Hey, you can be angry and upset, but don't be frustrated." Frustrated means like, "You're going to be away from your game. You're not going to be positive." If you don't have Dreycidal and the Canok's Helen McDavid, "How long before McDavid gets frustrated?" Mm-hmm. We're sitting here and mentioning these things as after game one. Maybe Dreycidal is fine. He comes back. They win game two, and everything changes yet again, right? But in terms of, "Hey, what's his status? What's your path to victory?" Yeah, if they're going to miss Dreycidal a couple of days, and you have Lindholm, Pedersen, and Miller, wave after wave going at Conor McDavid, making life difficult for him, that's going to create frustration. A moment that I was really telling is, and we talked about on the intermission, the Zadorov Dreycidal coincidental minors, just him going through the middle and just like, "Wack, wack, wack." A bunch of guys taking shots at the back. I always love a phrase whenever it comes to back injuries, nobody ever gets over a back injury. Yeah. Right? It's, man, that's core, essential to everything. He looks so dangerous in the opening period, and then you compare that, contrast that to the third period, way different. Yeah, man, you're telling me in a handful of days, like, he's going to be 100 percent? Oh, no, 100 percent. I still believe he'll play, but he's also shown that when he's injured, he can still be dominant. Absolutely. Absolutely. He's the best player in the life. Yeah. Yeah. Man, a back might be different than one way. Yeah. It's true. And I think that's going to be, you know, obviously the part of the question, but the way Lindholm is playing, though, I mean, going back to that reach, has he already been worth what you gave up in trade? Well, he's already had two monster games for you in the playoffs. One that helped you win in Nashville, which helped you win the series. Yeah. And then he had this huge game, game one, and he's ensuring he's going to get paid, but the way he is. But he insists in the game one of Nashville too. Yeah. But right now, like, even if things, you know, don't go your way the rest of the series, you don't lose it. You're not going to look at this as trade as a failure. Like, it's already passed the point of a failure. If it's a big success, that depends on how much farther you go in the playoffs. But with the way he's played, his impact already, you can justify the trade. And even for him personally, reach you and I talked about this. I think I was on when sat was a coward and took a Friday off. You and I talked about, like, when he was kind of struggling, he shut him down or what not. And he wants to improve his contract status. And for me, it was always, well, the best way to improve your contract status is have success in the playoffs. Whatever happened in the tail end of the season doesn't matter anymore for Lindholm stock. No. He's having a fantastic playoffs and is improving. Like, there's not general managers who are going to be like, oh, I don't know. I'll value the, what happened in the regular season or what's happening right now. Everyone's going to say, dude, this guy can perform for us in the playoffs. Tell me, Bill Armstrong, he's got all that cap space and an owner who's willing to spend now. And he's like, man, we could use a center. Yeah. This guy looks pretty good. He's not bad. You know, all of a sudden, you know, there's a different shine to Lindholm across the league. Everybody's talking about Lindholm after last night and the way that he's played as well in the playoff has given you time for Pedersen to find his game as well because you don't survive. Pedersen having a tough first round without a Lyslyn home on this roster. You just don't. So it has paid off already to a big level. Now the question is, what do you get from McDavid in game two? First time in his career, he's held without a shot on goal. They played him brilliantly last night and I felt like there's times he's winding up through the neutral zone and he like, sees the blue line and he's like, man, those guys are massive. There's nowhere for me to go through. And then he just like dishes it off to the side rather than taking it himself, which he so often does. There was like, there was moments where Susie defended him well, chronic defendant, like it was a team sort of effort as they said after the game to defend this guy, but they never gave him things easy, right? And angled them off in certain spots into less dangerous areas of the ice. It was just really well executed on Connor McDavid, but also it felt like McDavid took it down to like second gear when they went up for one. And I just wonder after you lose game one and he's hearing everybody talk about how he didn't have a shot on goal, dry side was hurt. They need McDavid to step it up a little bit. Like he's going to be supernova McDavid tomorrow. He's definitely getting at least a shot on goal, guaranteed that. Does he score a goal? But he's going to make an impact. The thing is though, they've defended him well all year, though. They have. I early in the season. Since Rick talked and arrived. He was going back to last season, but since Rick talked and arrived, McDavid puts up points against everyone, right? It was three games played going into yesterday, three points, as far as points per game, second lowest across the league. Only Dallas had done better than Vancouver. He's so good that his bad is point per game, that shows you what an impact he still makes. But you need to keep him as if you can from being the best version of himself. And maybe he has a game in the series and he does, right? And okay, you just can't lose the games where he's not. And that's what happened in game one. And can you keep him from being the best version of himself? And that gives you a chance. It's the same thing with the power play for me, right? Look, the oldest power play is going to score, but you have to contain it to one max, two games. If they go four and five, keep it to one game and you write off that one game, but it can't be two or four, two or four, one and four, one and three. You can't let them bleed you the whole way. It's the same thing with McDavid yesterday was on his game, Cox get that huge. And it's huge that you got a game where he wasn't at his best. Well, yeah. And you know, in terms of how the Canucks played him as well, you saw Queen Hughes essentially shadowing him. So once he was in the defensive zone, in offensive zone, essentially, he had somebody on him the whole time, essentially a four on four and a one on one with with Conor McDavid. I thought when you said reach on the entries, I thought Zadorov and Hornik were amazing at it against McDavid. And then in zone, he was had a couple of on three, he was just shadowing and yeah, the way he and JT paired off on McDavid, I thought they did excellent. I wonder if we see him do more give and goes because he loves winding up and carrying it through himself and just seeing it through guys. I wonder if you'll dish it off to someone in the neutral zone and then they'll dish it back to him. And then that way he'll try to get away from the spaces the Canucks is trying to usher him into. So I do think he's going to, he can make some slight adjustments himself as well and as a team to combat some of that stuff, but it's going to be hard for him to just skate through the neutral zone the entire time. I think that was made clear yesterday that if you want to play your game the way you really want to play, that's not going to happen in this series. The thing about the, like, Canucks score five goals, right? They hadn't done that in any game against Nashville. The offense found its life against Edmonton and they exposed nurse and CC. If you look at the Oilers playoff failures of the last couple of years against Vegas last year, it's nurse and CC that get exposed against the Colorado when they got swept in the conference final a couple of years ago. It's nurse and CC that just got taken out back to the woodshed and had their lunch take important and it's happened again last night. So I can understand why Euler's post game shows are like, it's nurse and CC. They're the problem, I understand people saying, well, they can make an adjustment, but I don't see what the adjustment like is day Harnay with nurse better. And then you have CC and Koolak as your third pair is you're splitting up at Coleman Bouchard. But Bouchard and nurse, like the reason Bouchard works with echolm so well is because echolm is that defensive stability to Bouchard's maybe lack of defensive acumen at times. Can you play Koolak with nurse maybe? Play him on his offside. Yeah. And he's shown he can do it. Yeah. Right. I mean, that's the only, I mean, is that, is that convincing enough for you? Yeah. So how you're telling me day Harnay and CC? CC going to play together? Yeah. Like that, that feels a win. I just don't, I don't think it's a coincidence that knob lock hasn't made a switch from away from that compared to what Jay Woodcroft is. Honestly, I know we, and I've mentioned this before, but this always gets brought up, right? And not to say like, hey, people in NHL know better, but it's like sometimes like don't you think they've thought about these things? You don't think they've seen the same things we're seeing or they're not idiots, right? But I think we often get caught up with different is better. And just cause you haven't, you're not doing something different, doesn't mean it would yield better results. But because you know, this isn't working to the way you want it to work, you're longing for something being better that you haven't seen yet. But you also have to remind people different doesn't mean better. It just means different sometimes. So we'll see what happens there. All right. And the Canucks Central Roundup, and by the way, Canucks playoff coverage on Sports S650 brought to you by West Side Pest Control, protect your home with West Side Pest Control. They have the tools and know how to eliminate your ant problem. Stop the destruction. Visit westsidepestcontrol.com or others could use that on Connor Garland. What did I say that out loud? What? Garland was unrealized. That wasn't even me. Wow. I'm sure I can make the joke. Wow. The only thing I regret about that is that I didn't make that joke. That was incredible. That was really good. He was struggling. I don't really tough time with Connor Garland last night. That's the point. You know what? The thing quickly on Garland because I don't know. Colonel Nurse needs that. I don't give Garland enough. He's like, what? West Side Pest Control.com? Sorry. I don't give enough credit to Garland sometimes. But like, so there were moments last night when Garland was overwhelmed physically. He lost battles, whatever. The way he fought back, he went through it and he just got tougher and stronger as the game went on. I mean, he was an absolute beast last night. He was a pest when Connor Garland is at his best. All right. So the Conoc Central Roundup, as expected, not confirming any starter tomorrow, did say she lobs his, earned the right to start, but also alluded to the idea that Casey to Smith could just as well start game two for his club. I haven't gone to the round table yet to discuss these kinds of things. I'm a round table guy. That's where the clip was born from, talking with saying we haven't gone to the round table yet to discuss this. I wonder if this is as much about getting to Smith ready and prepared mentally than it is about actually him playing. So you kind of say, you know, to both guys, we're considering this. So she loves has a iffy game in game two, you go to the Smith and game three and then he's mentally prepared and ready to go for game three. One thing I'm wondering about is, look, I've been as big as she loves supporter here. Usage. Mm hmm. Do you worry about it? It's too much too soon. And he did have like five days between have four days between every other day now, right? But yeah, this is different animal. It's not normal for him. Well, I mean, yeah, doesn't mean he can't do it. But do you just work to Smith in at some point? I wonder game three for dismissing it on the road. That's kind of what I was thinking. Yeah. If you just do it just for the sake of like, hey, man, you get four days off, you get to work with Ian Clark. Not that you were bad or anything. Like we might be up to nothing, whatever it is. And just say this is for also the benefit of you long term for the remaining of the series. And look like what if Demko is not ready to come back to the start of getting round three if they make it. Yeah. It's like we kind of need you to be fresh. I do wonder about that element to what he said, sad, just making sure to Smith is always ready to. Yeah. You would have to think Casey is chomping at the bit to get back in as well. Sure. Yeah. I can't imagine he is. Look, as any athlete would be, he's not thrilled to be the guy that they could sad after one game out injured. Yeah. I always feel bad for guys to lose their spot when they're injured. Yeah. He played poorly and got replaced. Yeah. I don't think it'd be a problem. He had a good game. Yeah. And then, you know, got hurt. Yeah. But last night, I mean, what, four goals on 17 shots isn't great. Yeah. And it was four on 14. Yeah. You know, Canucks didn't give up a shot after that fourth Oilers goal for basically a full period. So did better than the other guy. He did your performance. He did better than the other guy. Yeah. I mean, but, you know, in fairness, there were a few chances Edmonton had that they didn't score on the post. News in Hopkins hits. The thing about that that had my radar up more than anything else is he had no idea. Yeah. I mean, that's a great pass from the club. It's a great pass. But he had no idea what the shot was coming from, right? So like, it wasn't like, you know, he was going to be at the post or whatever. And there was a couple of backdoor plays that Edmonton didn't converge on if they did. You know, maybe they score another goal, but that's the only thing I would worry about. It's Dan Rachos, Satyar, Shaw, and in the roundtable with Vic Nazar, of course, host of the People Show and co-host of Canucks Central postgame as well. Vic, I appreciate you staying a little bit extra. See you, Paul. He is Vic Nazar, find him on Twitter by his name, of course. And that was the Canucks Central roundtable. Coming up, we'll continue talking about the Canucks and Oilers series where it progresses from here. Plus landed Ferraro is going to join us after five o'clock. Give us his analysis of what he saw in game one that's coming up on Canucks Central. [ Silence ]