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The Swinging D**k Derby + Meet the Experts Teaser: Fairway Financial | 5.10.24 - The Howie Carr Show Hour 4

Picture this: you're fireside with Howie Carr, and it's time for him to tell you a story. Ol' Billy Barnoski wrote a story in the days of fixing horse races, and Howie found the original text. What else does one do on a Friday afternoon such gold? Tune in for a dramatic reading by the Captain of the Swinging D**k Derby!

Duration:: 37m
Broadcast on:: 10 May 2024
Audio Format:: mp3

This podcast is brought to you by the Eden Pure Thunderstorm. BOGO is back for one week only. Buy one and get one of the Eden Pure Thunderstorm free. Order at EdenPureDeals.com code word "Howie" BOGO. [MUSIC PLAYING] Better strap yourself in. It's time for the Howie Car Show. You know, I have family coming in, who I have to let them know to not come to my graduation ceremonies. [LAUGHTER] We are laughing. I mean, I'm a 2020 high school grad, so I wasn't able to walk then. And so I'm not able to walk now. Sad. They're sad. Sad. Live from the Matthew's Brothers Studios. Stop the hammering. Stop the hammering out there. Who's got a hammer? Just stop. Yes, it's the way I can get to America, Toba. We must just stop oil. Shut up, old lady. More independent said that they worry about President Biden weakening democracy than Trump. What do you make of this? I am shocked. Love at that shock. Rump swabs, hacks, and moon bats beware. It's Howie Car. Welcome to The Howie Car Show, 844-542. 42, 844-542. It's Mother's Day weekend, Happy Mother's Day, to all the mothers out there. And I was thinking about Turtle Boy and getting banned from the courtroom today. And again, I've never heard-- if someone can remember anytime the prosecution has ever tried to ban a reporter or from the courtroom or anybody else. I can't recall anything like it. Whitey tried to ban me and four reporters from the globe from his trial. And Judge Dadees Cooper threw it out immediately. I remember getting a call on a Friday night just like this. I was with my family. I don't know why it wasn't on the air, but I wasn't. And I got a call from the US Attorney's Office. And they said, you can't come in on Monday till this thing gets straightened out. And I said, what? And they said, yeah, Whitey listed you as a defense witness. And again, it's kind of-- it made me-- once I got in it, I was happy. Because you can say, I was a Whitey Baldger. I was on Whitey Baldger's defense list, defense witness list, even though he was just trying to keep me out of the courtroom. But then I thought there was another time they tried to throw me out of the courtroom. There was a guy named William Barnoskey. He was a hitman for Winter Hill. And he got out, and he was crazy. And he wanted to make money and been in for a while. He's one of those guys. Actually, I think in Cambridge, he killed two guys with one bullet one time. It was one of those weird cases. There are not too many of those. Half of them once in the South end too, and Bob the chefs. And so he got out. And Whitey just said, OK, I'm going to send you up to Lowell. I don't want you around here, so go up to Lowell. And Lowell was run sort of by Jackie McDermott, who was a funny guy. And I knew Jackie fairly well. And Barnoskey was moving in and muscling in on him. And finally, one night in a cocaine rage, he killed Jackie. Billy Barnoskey killed Jackie. It wasn't a hit because they knew immediately who it was. And he also shot his son, Peter McDermott, who was in his 20s. And again, I knew Jackie pretty well. I didn't know the son so much. But the son was the main witness. So I was in the courtroom at the beginning of the trial. And when there was a break, one of the court officers came up to me and said, Judge Barton-- Judge Robert Barton. He was a good guy. Judge Barton wants to see you in chambers. I said, OK, I didn't know what it was about. And Judge Barton said, hey, how are you doing? I said, good to see you. What's this all about? And he said, I just wanted you to know Richie Eggbert. He was this-- he's dead now. Some people liked him. I thought he was kind of a really sleazy guy. He was a mob lawyer. Richie Eggbert wants you banned from the courtroom. And I said, what? What do you mean? And Judge Barton said, well, I think he figures that you're a friend of the old man. And Peter McDermott, the witness, is going to be the main witness against McDermott, against Barnoskey, is he's really a shaky witness. So they figure you'd back him up. So they want to keep you out of the courtroom. I said, that's ridiculous. And the judge said, Judge Barton said, I agree. And they kept me in the courthouse, in the courtroom. And so I was there. That's the only other time. So the follow up is, I don't know, 20 years later, I guess, maybe more. I'm covering the Bulger trial. And one of the spectators that was brought up was the widow of a guy that Barnoskey had killed. Another guy that Barnoskey had killed. And I just heard that Barnoskey had died in prison. And I went up and introduced myself to the widow of the woman that he had killed, not Jackie McDermott, another of his hit victims. And I said, did you hear? I said, I introduced myself. I said, did you hear your husband's killer just died last night in the prison? That's the only time I've ever delivered news like that, Taylor, to somebody. She didn't know. I gave her the news. I won't say she was happy, but she's always going to remember me as the person who told her about her husband's killer dying. Barnoskey was the enforcer for Fat Tony Shula. He was the guy who fixed horse races. And he wrote a-- he took a creative writing class under Chris Leiden in the jail. And he talked about fixing the races in some of the old county fairs when they used to have the racing. And they would give him so much-- that's where they learned to what the dosage was to get the horses slowed down. And when they were starting out, they one time they gave this horse down in Marshfield or someplace like that, so much dope that his-- I didn't know this, but his horses' testicles fall down. Did you know this? No, no, no, I did not know this. And so Barnoskey, you know what the title of his story was? "The Swinging Bleep Derby." I have a copy of it, Taylor, if you'd like to read it. Is it-- this is an article? It's a-- it's a story. Yeah, it's a story. Yeah. Well, you don't have to go out of your way, but if you've got it around, I'll take a look at it. I do have-- you know, I was going through my old notes for the Anjulo project, and I found it. So yeah, I have a-- it runs about four pages. And yeah, that's-- so that's my story. That's-- you know, it's one of these things. You know, you start out in one place, turtle boy getting thrown out of court. It reminds me of getting thrown out of court. It reminds me one time I almost got thrown out of court, et cetera, et cetera. So that's my-- that's my story. That's my story, and I'm-- and I'm sticking to it. Oh, that was like a three-in-one. [LAUGHING] Eight, four, four, 500-- The ending was a lot more interesting than the beginning. I think I may have the story here, as a matter of fact. Well, I can't wait for this next break. 4-1-3-H, I was a young man when you started this story. But it was a three-in-one story. That's it, it wasn't just one story. It was-- it was kind of like a Jerry Anjulo colloquy. Eight, four, four, five hundred, forty-two, forty-two. I'm Howie Carr. The Howie Carr show will be right back. [MUSIC PLAYING] The emperor of hate, Howie Carr, is back. [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING] I got the-- I got it. I found it. Aren't you lucky I'm working on this Jerry Anjulo project and I just happen to be going through my notes. And you're going to get to hear this. Can I use the word that actually is in the title? Taylor? You're really the professional here. It is a quote. You are quoting. [MUSIC PLAYING] But I would think that power is higher than we would prefer. Brown upon it. For you did not. Yeah, the swinging bleep derby. I'm just having-- I don't want to interfere with the original manuscript. You don't want to soil it. I don't want to soil it with my-- with my highlighter. So Emma's making a copy of it and I'll get to-- I'll go to it for the next break and then I'll read it. I'll read you excerpts from it. It is pretty funny, I must say. Barnoskey wasn't as good with a pen as he was with a revolver, but he had a lot of good material to work with. You'll see it. Today's poll question is brought to you by Perfect Smiles. Don't be fooled by impostors with similar names. If you're unhappy with your smile, you need to visit Dr. Bruce Houghton in Nashua. Call 1-844 a Perfect Smile or visit perfectsmiles.com. Perfectsmiles.com. Taylor, what's the poll question? What are the results thus far? Today's poll question, which you can vote in at howickarshow.com, is should the judge have banned Turtle Boy from the courtroom for all the interesting witnesses in the Karen Reed murder trial? Yes, no, it was an outrage. No, but she did Turtle Boy a favor or not sure. No, but she did Turtle Boy a favor. 28% say no, she did him a favor. 58% say no, it was an outrage. 8% say not sure, 6% say yes, you should have been banned. The numbers are moving around a little bit this afternoon, unlike some of the other poll questions this week. 844-542-42, Aubrey, you're next with Howie Carr. Hi, Howie, how's your day? Good, good. Can you imagine the recordings the feds are making right now of each of these people after they get off the stand? There must be hundreds of wiretaps going right now in Camden. Hey, can you tell me what is the bulger connection to this case? Did the weeks on the family go to the house? No, I don't know. A couple of people have asked me if there was a bulger connection. I don't think so, what it would-- I think they're just razzing you because you seem to be able to connect him to anything. Actually, there was a call though. There was a call we didn't get to with Turtle Boy. And no, I don't know. I mean, I don't even know what part of Boston they come from. I'm assuming they're originally from Boston. But I guess they're going to ask Brian Albert. He was at the time he was a Boston police officer. He took retirement. He'd been around for a long time, so it was about time for him to retire. But I guess some people are saying that he had a Boston unmarked vehicle, BPD unmarked vehicle, when he was driving around. Yeah, that's-- most of them drive forward focuses. Turtle Boy reported that-- I thought he did-- that the week's family had a connection to the house that they bought. They came from Dorchester. He was a cop around the same time of Whitey Balter's reign of terror. No, not really. Not really. I mean, you know, Whitey went on-- I mean, he would have been a young cop, very at the-- you know, right at the end of Whitey's reign of terror. I don't think so. I'll ask him about it, or maybe it'll come up in cross-examination on Monday. This day is getting better, and every day is more and more interesting. Thanks for the call, Aubrey. 844-542-42. Limerick Guy, your story about the racehorse puts a whole new spin on the phrase, watching the ball drop. And Officer Mark says, can you schedule a masterpiece theater reading from the horse-- the horse testicle story? Not really. Not really, because it's-- there's not a-- I'm just looking at it again. I haven't looked at it. There's very little-- for a masterpiece theater, you need dialogue. You know, usually you get that from a deposition, or, you know, a court transcript. And this is just a narrative. But I'm going to go through it on the next break, and I'll read it. I'll read some of it when we come back. Where did this appear? Where did he publish this story? Chris Leiden. You know Chris Leiden, the old anchor for the Channel 2 back in the day. And then he had a radio show, a talk radio show. He's a good guy. Believe it or not. I mean, he seems like it would be a crazy lib, and he is. But he's a decent guy. And so-- but he liked to do lib things, like going to prisons and, you know, teaching courses. And so he taught a creative writing course, I think at MCI Norfolk. And one of his students was William Barnoskey. And so one day, you know, we're talking and goofing around. Because I still kept up with him for a long time. You know, I worked for him at Channel 2 for a little while, till not him, but the powers that be fired me, because it was affecting donations, contributions. And he said, you know, I had-- he said, William, Billy Barnoskey, you know him. He killed one of your friends. And he wrote this really weird story. And it was kind of a funny story. And I said, I'd love to get it. And so he sent it to me. And this is his own story. He typed this story. Now I got a copy of it. But-- Google thinks I'm searching for the swinging duck derby. [LAUGHTER] No, it's not going to be on-- it's not going to be on Google. It's never been published anywhere. I thought about trying to get the rights to put it in-- put it in plug uglies. But then I really-- his daughter, I think, is a lawyer now. And I don't think she would like me for some reason. I just get that feeling and that she wouldn't give me permission to put it in between hard covers. So I passed on it. But it's actually-- it's entertaining. And he worked for this guy, Fat Tony Schula, who will make an appearance in the Injule book, who I knew a little bit to. He was in the Witness Protection Program after he ratted out the Winter Hill Gang. And then when the Winter Hill Gang was all gone to prison or retired or whatever, he came back into Boston and wanted to-- I don't know what he wanted to do. 844, 542, 42, 844, 542, 42. 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Where an Egg McMuffin is a whopping $7.29 in a single order of hash browns cost $5.69. We'll be right back with the swinging bleep derby. [MUSIC PLAYING] Live from the Matthews Brothers Studios. 844-542-844-542-442. So this story runs for a while, but it's not bad. It's kind of interesting for a Friday night. This is, again, this is a guy who-- he was a hitman, basically. But he also worked with this guy named Fat Tony Shula Fix and Horse Races. And Fat Tony Shula broke up the original Winter Hill mob by testifying against all of them. And just as Jerry Angelo told the Winter Hill Gang was going to happen, the guy was a rat. And he would screw him. And he did. He ended up screwing him. Fat Tony, he ended up on the cover of Sports Illustrated, ratting him out. And his muscle was this guy, William Bernoski. So here's just a few excerpts from the story. Do you mind if I add some atmosphere, like a crackling fireplace? Yeah, I mean, you know, I love all-time radio. If you can think of some-- do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. I think the fireplace will do. Yeah, you don't want to do the call to the post and all that kind of stuff? I didn't have that ready. And some crowd noise and some galloping hooves. Maybe for the podcast. OK. Many years ago, a couple of friends in myself were at the racetrack every day, gambling and borrowing, stealing whatever we could from whomever we could to support this habit that I assure you was worse than heroin. We would buy horse it. Sounds like it's an arson story. This is about a race. You're hoarding to us your fireside. You've got a warm glass of milk. And you're telling your grandkids a story. They won't hear this one for a while. We would buy nags for $2,000 and run them. And of course, all was bet our own. And 90% of the time we'd lose every nickel and wonder how the belief would get home. I hate to lose, and I especially hate to be broke on a daily basis or ever for that matter. Something had to change, and I knew that I had to change it because fat Tony and Sal had the affliction far and away worse than mine. Around Massachusetts, there's a series of fairs every summer. I guess there are about eight of them. When one ends, the other begins. The jockeys and trainers at this event are mostly hasbends or wannabes. Either way, they are always desperate for money and drugs and the fast life in general. I felt I could use my charismatic personality and my natural ability to get my own way most of the time. But I could ingratiate myself with enough of these types to make something very profitable happen. But the fact that these tracks is nonexistent. Problem number one was, if I was to fix one of these races, the handle was not big enough to score enough. How could I fix this also? Well, they have bookmakers at these tracks who make their livings off dreamers like me. See, so it's not just Perry Mutual bag. You can bet directly with the bookies. So if the day came, they indicated they would be more than happy to take as much action and promised not to put any in the windows. So he's talking about how he learned to do it. First, we paid jockeys. And on occasion, one would win when he wasn't supposed to. Examples were made. After all, a deal is a deal. It soon became evident to all concerned that there was money to be made and that the people with it were honorable. Fatoni, Billy Barnas, they were honorable people. It was also apparent there was a sufficient amount of willing muscle. He's referring to himself, of course. This is Billy Barnasci, the swinging belief derby. We eventually end up with eight horses from six different states, trainers and jockeys from different states. We have a legit man who rented an entire barn at one of these local race tracks. Myself and my two dogs stayed off the scene for most of the scheme. If a jockey said no to us that he wouldn't hold his horse on a given day, we'd go to the trainer who'd change a piece of equipment for a price, of course. The horse would lose without the jockey, no and why. On the other hand, when a trainer said no, we went to the jockey, the results were the same. On occasion, both would say no. And in those days, I was not well known. So I went to a vet and got some medication that would slow the horse down. So that his mind was not on running that day. Especially with four cc's of this wonder drug. To me, the puzzle was beginning to fit. Now remember, four cc's was the prescribed dose. Now I had to find eight people to march at least five very sleepy horses to post. I knew a corrupt but wonderfully colorful character and his name was Red. He had flaming red hair and about 10 kids with flaming red hair. All of them boys, girls, racetrackers. All of them, some of them just teens, a good group. Red agrees to use his whole outfit to take these horses to post. I loved it. Thousands of people sitting there in the stands waiting to be fleeced by a mere project lad. The racing secretary was very kind to us. The race was, there was hours on it. It was a daily double and also a perfecta. That means there are separate pools that do not show up on the board. So the public knows nothing. See, this is very complicated. Now remember, we have eight horses in this race, all belonging to us. We intend to put five to sleep, almost to sleep, which leaves three. Who cares which order they win? We win any way you cut it. Race day, I meet jockeys, trainers, agents. I tell them, if anyone's thinking of being cute or slick, think again, because I have spelled it out and no stories will sell with me. We get all our people together and money together and send each one back to a different window early to tie them up because they have so many tickets to buy. Now it's post time. (vocalizing) Red leads the first horse from the barn, followed closely by his lovely red-headed daughter and then two more horses and two more redheads. Eventually, eight horses and eight redheads. I have only minutes to go backside and medicate the five horses. Now it hasn't started yet. It's about to start. Red tells me he has already given them sleepers for CC's a piece. I was 25 years old and sure that eight CC's were the victory against Red's advice. I got my way once again. Red and one of his sons had to slap two of the horses vigorously to keep them awake long enough to get them to post. When a horse has to relieve himself, his you know what falls out of its sheath and if I must say so, it is an impressive sight. I of course did not know that when a horse is totally relaxed, the same thing happens only more visual. Three of them didn't even finish and it was around the slowest time ever in Massachusetts history for that distance. So we had made a major score at a minor race track which everyone was sure would not happen. The bookies all paid full price after trying to find all ways, all kinds of ways to get out. When it was explained that there was only one way out and it wasn't favorable, we all got paid. Everyone got there and I felt we had really accomplished something. The smart guys in the new suits got bleeped but here comes the kicker. Just as all the sharpies were getting over their bruised egos and the devastation that they lost or got conned for so much dough, the major papers wrote major stories about what they believed happened and their stories were full of humor. They mentioned that these three guys were barred from every race track in the country, all of them, what a high. This particular race says William Barnoskey and his closing sentence became infamous and it was known as the swinging bleep derby. And that's it. That's the swinging bleep derby. 844-542-42. Eddie, you're next with Howie Carr, go ahead Eddie. - Oh, howie, originally from that said, hung around all the bars and revere, Everett. And let me tell you when a jockey came in to a bathroom, he was like a celebrity. All right, Eddie was like spying on drinks. He was like the shortest guy in the room, it's the liberty of celebrity. And these guys are small. And I would remember when they started doing the same with Cass, it's right. And they were sleeping, they were showing in the bar and it was like a two minutes or later. - Right. - And they were taking bets on the phone, the pay phones would be all filled up. And they were losing their blessing, Florida, because the races are already known with the wind, but that's another good story. - Yeah, no, why Jerry and Jullo hated Fat Tony Shula, Bernoski's boss. He figured out some way to use big binoculars on a racetrack, you know, at the Suffolk Downs racetrack, you know, near an apartment building. And he was pulling the same stuff, he was past posting. And Jullo, the mafia found out that he was past posting the races, Fat Tony, and they almost killed him. And I guess his mother went down to the dog house and begged for mercy and they gave him another chance. And then he came back. He was a slimy character, Fat Tony. - Oh man, my bottom's a mall that I used to go to. I mean, all those stories are always like within a week we knew about it. And then, you know, your columns, they just hated you, didn't they? (laughing) - That's a good week in my family. - Thanks, thanks Eddie. I used to live on Spring Hill in Somerville. And, you know, it wasn't walking, it was walking distance, but it wasn't at my neighborhood bar or anything, but it was right at the, almost the end of Marshall Street where the Winter Hill gang was where these were the guys that were fixing the races with Fat Tony in the '70s. And you know what the name of the bar was? The paddock, the paddock. And Frank Salimmy got to be friends or acquaintances with Paul Rico, the corrupt FBI agent who died in prison who set up the wheeler hit in Oklahoma. When he wrecked his car one day at Suffolk Downs, he was his FBI car and they, he couldn't, he obviously couldn't tell him he was at the track during working hours, so he had Frank Salimmy fix it. Harness racing was even more corrupt, says 339. Yeah, I think so, yes, exactly. 844-500-44. So, my parents always used an expression growing up that was passed on to me. I've got to bleep like a race horse. I think that just means that there's a lot, they have a lot of fluid when they go. Rambo-413, I remember watching the horse races at the Three County race grounds. You could see some jockeys were pulling back on the reins. They were pulling back on the reins but they knew what was good for them, that's for sure. 844-500-42, 844-500-42. Chris, you're next with Howie Carr, go ahead, Chris. - Hey, Howie, you were talking the other day, you were talking the other day about court cases. We had, every time you ever see the court case, they always went up the chain. Well, there was a court case about nine years ago in the US District of Court in Boston where a guy, David Brock, he was a big guy and he went down the chain and got eight years off his sentence to give up the next guy underneath them. - That's not the way you're supposed to do it, Chris. I'm surprised that happened in federal court. I mean, there've been some problems in the federal, especially in the FBI in Boston and they appointed Rachel Rollins, Biden did and she was corrupt as hell but usually they go, usually they go up the chain. Thanks for the call, Chris, but they didn't do that with Whitey and Stevie, actually. So it is a problem, but Whitey and Stevie were paying off the FBI, so that's what happened. All right, we'll take a break and come right back on Howie Carr. (upbeat music) - The Howie Carr show will be right back. (upbeat music) - You're listening to the Howie Carr show. - Do you know how many of these guys were named Fat? It was Fat Benny, it was Fat Pellegrini. (upbeat music) - There was Fat Benny, the Vince, that the guy we were talking about yesterday. Very few of them were named Slim, although there was a skinny kazones in the Injulo Inner Circle. All right. - Skinny Diamaro? - What? - There's also Skinny Diamaro. - Yeah, a few skinnies, but not more fats. All right, if you haven't heard, we've started a new podcast feature called Meet the Experts with Howie Carr and we have a new episode out now. This week I sat down with Steven and Zoni, a fairway financial. It's based in Hyannis, Massachusetts. They also have an office in Plymouth. Steven has over 35 years of financial planning under his belt with a heavy focus on retirement planning. If you want to retire with peace of mind, this episode is for you. Listen, how can you help people protect and grow income and retirement? - Well, that's the number one concern, right? Is how can I replace my working paycheck with something that's gonna be there for me along with social security? That's what we do and that's what we have been doing for over 35 years is to help people retire with greater financial security. - How much money do you need to retire? - A lot of it has to do with your debt. I mean, it's nice to have a million, but it's more important to have guaranteed lifetime income because that can never go away. And I'm talking, even when the money you started with goes away, the check never goes away. It's literally like a pension. - When should people decide to take social security? I've read that most people start taking it the first month they can. - If you're still working and you take it before you full retirement age, you're gonna be giving a lot of it back. If you're married, I always suggest that the higher income earner try to defer that social security as long as they can. And remember, when one spouse dies, the survivor gets the higher of the two checks. So I try to go that way, but there's a lot more involved. - Does it make sense for any retired person to remain in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts? - Well, the idea is you gotta just do the planning, right? You gotta allow for the taxation and everything else. And just make sure the numbers work that way. And if you wanna leave a legacy, what I try to say to them is look, you need to take care of yourself first and the kids second, because if you don't take care of yourself first, the kids are gonna be taking care of you sooner than you think. Meet the experts with How We Car, featuring this week's guest, Steve Anzoni, a fairway financial. It's available now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your How We Car show podcast. He's got some interesting things to say and advice. He doesn't tell you what mutual funds to invest in. That's for others, but he tells you how to handle your financial planning in retirement. All right, 844-542-4844-542-42. Let's just play John Lovitz. This is pretty good stuff. And he says, I'm not Jewish, so I can't say this. Or I don't feel comfortable saying this, but he can say it because he is Jewish. Cut three. - And Bernie Sanders, he's always been, you know, I said it before, and I'll say it again. He's a self-loathing Jew. And there's a lot of them. And you know, why do you say that? I go, well, it's clear as a bell. - This is his pause, not a lie. - He's not for Israel. They have to stop this war. Why isn't he condemning Hamas for starting it? What about that? And whatever you think of Trump, the fact is that he's done more for Israel than any president in the history of this country. - Is it true? It is true, isn't it? John Lovitz, 844-542-42. Put a fin on Swifty in the third. Happy Mother's Day, I'm how we far. - Check this out, Jack. (laughing)