[MUSIC PLAYING] This is the Canucks Central Post Game Show. Miller gets a free to Zadora with a burst of speed for the goal of their line. And I play Zadora on the corner. And they go short, he scores! [MUSIC PLAYING] Susie tried to step up, and I'm in loss. The puckman, David's got to break away. In alone, now she loves, he scores! [MUSIC PLAYING] Connor McDavid ties the game at three, as he got away. After Susie tried to step up and lay ahead, and it's a three all time-- with instant reaction from the players and coaches. He gave it with speed, right link to the Vancouver line for dry side. On the boards, bottom of the circle, back to Bouchard to the point. Carries down the wall, throws it to the ball, he scores! Evan Bouchard fired it to the net. And I think it bounced off one of the Canucks in front and in. And the Oilers, who never led in this hockey game tonight, have tied the series at 1-1. Have your say on the official home of the Canucks. Sportsnet 650, and the Sportsnet Radio Network. Canucks lose in overtime, 4-3 against the Oilers. The series is now tied to one game of peace in the second round match up between the Canucks and Oilers. And this is the Canucks Central Post game show presented by the number 5 orange on the home of your Canucks, Sportsnet 650, and the Sportsnet Radio Network. Satyar Shah with Biknizar and Brett Festerling. We are going to welcome in Randy Janda into the conversation in just a moment. Get your thoughts in to our Dunbar number, text them box 65650. You can also grab a phone line 604-280-0650, a toll-free 1-888-275-0650. And the Edmonton Oilers really pushed the pace in the third period. They tied the game, really took over the game for the most part, had a lot of chances late. The Canucks did well to get to overtime. Unfortunately, Ian Cole, who has scored as many goals against the Canucks, or been a part of as many goals against the Canucks as any other player in the series has been. A bit of an unfortunate bounce, but he's trying to take away the backdoor play, tips the puck into his own net. And that's after game one, where on the first three goals, he played a part into those. So four of the goals, Ian Cole, through these two games, played a big part in. That's a bit of a tough break, but that's how it goes in overtime for the Canucks. Yeah, you can understand him trying to protect the backdoor. But the way that puck went in, Heimann wasn't really in the position to really act on it. So it's unfortunate, you don't know that as a defenseman. And Bretton, I'm curious to get your thoughts on that, but he feels he's got to make that play. But Heimann is just a little bit away from that. And probably goes by the net, if it lets it straight through, unfortunately. But that's sometimes how the breaks go. Yeah, and I think he just ends up in between, right? If you're closer to Heimann, you just sit up the wall, and you try to box out and get in that battle. And anything that hits, he's probably behind the net. Instead, he's just sitting in between. He doesn't have that. He doesn't have this blocked shot. So then you're playing this in between, tries to cut off the pass. That ends up in the back of the net. Yeah, and it's tough. And the Canucks now find themselves in a 1-1 series tie. But I will say this. For all the talk, and we can get it to the official stuff, a lot of people texting in about how the officiating went or didn't go on this game. At the same time, I did think Edmonton was a better team tonight. I thought they had the better first period. The Canucks played better in the second, the third. The Canucks were trying to hold on to that lead. But after Edmonton tied the game at three, it really seemed like a one-sided affair. And that's something the Canucks have to adjust to here. When Edmonton pushed the pace and took it to another level, the Canucks had a hard time keeping up here in the third period and into overtime. Yeah, it was really initiated by that top line when you load up a dry side with McDavid. They set the tone. And then the Canucks, you can understand, you want to probably try to stay neutral in that and then win that and survive that matchup. But it was the lines that they kept on coming in waves and just kind of leaning on the Canucks. And when you're able to set up the possession, those changes are coming a little bit later. You're having longer shifts. You're getting a little tired. And the other lines for Edmonton started to gain some confidence from that, too. But guys, 15 to 2, the shots on goal in the third period, that told you how much they control that. And Sheila's makes some good saves there. He's composed. He's battling. But that third period was all Edmonton. And they played rope-a-dope a little bit. They tried to. They kind of were leaning against the ropes they were trying to hang on. But I think the Edmonton Oilers in that top line really ramped it up tonight. The issue that we talked about in the overtime of just misexecution of simple passes that were not connecting in the offensive zone just to create some prolonged zone time for Vancouver, which he realized to get an OT just on exits. And Joshua all alone. Heronic has an odd one. Garland has an odd one. You miss those with that line out there? Well, you're going to invite more pressure. And 15 to 2, yeah, it felt kind a little bit that the Oilers only got 15 in that third period. Yeah, and I think they tie into each other. It's the fatigue and a lack of oxygen. And that's when you start losing those battles. Chase and not connecting on passes. Guys can't chase down passes. And that comes from that dominant top line that's just getting that ball rolling and exactly like you said, round deep, extended shifts. You get caught out with the fourth line and then the third line gets caught out. So I think that fatigue ties into your lack of execution. And then that builds the confidence for it. It does. And one thing about Edmonton tonight, I mean, they did load up their top line. Dry subtle clearly banged up, played with McDavid and Hyman. That gave them a pretty formidable trio. And they really grew into the game and got better as it went on. However, there is something about how much can those guys play consistently considering the fact that these guys played 30 minutes here tonight. You're talking about like almost 30 minutes of ice time for these guys. I mean, hey, it's only game two of the series, but Edmonton is leaning very, very heavily on their top guys already to even this thing up. I know connect fans are a bit sour right now, 1-1 series. And what does it mean moving forward? I got to be honest, I gain a lot of confidence in this game. I'm not convinced there's more than four Oilers that are consistently going to score in this series. And if it's not coming from the stick of Conor McDavid to feed someone that's not of those four, I'm hard pressed to see where they're going to find offense. Now, mind you, dry subtle can put up four points apparently with the spasming back or cramping back on a night. Well, that's the thing about him, man. That's the thing about him. You think sometimes that this guy, he's banged up. Last you played on one leg and was a dominant force. You can't take him 15 points or 5 games when he was into it. That's ridiculous, guys. Look, they're phenomenal. But any time-- even the custom, they had turnovers in their own zone with the Ryan line out or somebody else out. It looked like it was going to get sorted. And there's not a lot of pressure generated. The fact that it's game two, and they had to go to that break glass in case of emergency scenario with dry subtle McDavid playing 28-12 for McDavid 27-05 for dry subtle. I think this is an encouraging sign to the rest of the way. Not just that, oh, they might tire and fatigue. Is that if this is what you have to do by game two, I think that stems well for Vancouver. Because the execution stuff, they can clean up. For sure. And the third goal in that game for Edmonton was a classic example, where you dive into the offensive zone and then you dive in further into the neutral zone, where Tyler Myers is trying to make that last ditch play. Yeah, you get rid of those and you don't give up those plays. We might be talking about a different game here, guys. And during the regular season, they were able to grind out games like that. So you just got to keep your composure. I felt later in this game, Vancouver kind of lost their shape. They lost their composure. But you're right, that Edmonton team is as of right now, until one of those other lines takes a step up. They are a one-line team now. Vancouver has three centers you're comfortable with. But when that line is on the ice, you have to at least relieve pressure a little bit more. In the second period, with that long change, you could-- Vancouver played a pretty decent second period. But you could also sense a little bit of the top line for Edmonton starting to warm up a little bit. They're starting to have those extended shifts. And you do that for the second half of the game. Eventually, that's going to catch up to you. Yeah. And they started feeling it. And then you get the timeouts or the TV breaks. And then they were literally on the ice every second shift. So finding one line that can just take a little more pressure to them, relieve pressure, and then a second line that can support that I think you need where a target, especially going on the road here, can put out a mixed line, call it a lotto, or call it whatever, a Joshua and Garland with call a Miller, something like that, where you can switch in the fly, still have two lines that you feel comfortable taking on that pressure. Well, and I will say too, I mean, Edmonton so far has. Tonight, they created some opportunities. They had a lot of pressure. They did out-possess the Canucks, not only by the shot numbers, but also clear advantage and ice time spent in the office's own compared to what the Canucks were able to do here tonight. At the same time, it seems like every mistake the Canucks make ends up in the back of their net. Yeah. We saw it in the first game, right? The first three goals with Ian Cole. Cole now tips that one in. You look at the game time goal, the game goal, the 3-3 goal. You have Susie, Annie, Avrona, Susie steps up. And time and place, you're out against these guys. One goal lead in the third period. Do you need to be that aggressive at the blue line? It doesn't get the puck, of course. And then her own doesn't get the puck, McDavid goes through. So right now, it seems like every mistake the Canucks have been making ends up in the back of the net. And also, the echom goal happens after a poor exchange with Susie and Zadorov. Susie throws the puck. It's in Zadorov's skates leads to a turnover. The puck comes out to echom, and he scores. So it seems like every time the Canucks have made a mistake in their own end through two games, it ended up in the back of their net. Well, that echom goal, he scored in the game one as well. And it was a similar way where Ian Cole bounces it off the boards. And there's nobody there. Zadorov's a little bit more to the middle of ice. And what happens? The defensemen's allowed to kind of-- he's got the green light to say, all right, the puck is down low, and my guys have it. I'm going to lean in, and I'm going to lower the boom. And he was a little further out in game one to get that one through. And this one, he sees it. He's inching for it, and blasts that through. But you're right, those were kind of mistakes where the Canucks made those. And those are not necessarily simple things you can eradicate. But that McDavid goal to me was the one where you're saying, all right, Carson Sousie's made that play. He misses out on it. You got Connor making it in front of McDavid in front of him. You're probably going to lose that foot race. I get it. But if you-- at least-- I believe it was Myers, if I'm not mistaken. That was backing up. Maybe you're caught flat footed as well. I understand it's a losing proposition. But if you go for everything there on that play, there's nobody behind you. There's nothing. At least you got a long stick there. Maybe if you're backing up, you can make a desperation play. That one was just a compounding mistakes, right? And that ends up costing you. Yeah, that's an all or nothing play, really, for Myers. And that's not a guy you want to put the chips down on with McDavid, right? That's-- he's just too dangerous. So on that play as well, before that all happens. And we know, we've got a lot of thoughts on the officiating as well, not a great night for the officials. And for those that had the Kelly Sutherland conspiracy theories in the history, tonight was more fuel to that-- The WWE story lines that were being developed. Yeah. The sleuth foot before that play goes on call. Yeah. Evander Kane on that one, that one-- we were talking about it while it was going on, guys. And that, to me, looked like an obvious penalty. It's something that-- And it's a sleuth foot. Yeah, it is. Absolutely. Sometimes, hey, somebody gets tall down. Ladout kicks him out. It's one of the more dangerous plays in hockey. You have to call that. But here's the thing, right before that, there's that missed call-- or before that was a four minute, or that should have been gone to Conor McDavid, right? So you want to allow aggressive physical play, but there is a limit to that when you have two obvious blown calls on that play. So yeah, that Evander Kane one to me was flat out. And there's an official right there. There's an official right there, guys. I mean, it's can might be one of those where you get a fine or something come out tomorrow after that play. I wouldn't show the Derek Ryan one, probably for sure. Yeah, on that one, right? Like the nurse. Yeah. Yeah, the nurse elbow. Yeah, I think there was three big ones. There was three big ones from the Oilers. I felt the nurse elbow that we talked about in the first period. Not the first hit. It's the second hit. It's not the one into the board. It's the second go around where the elbow clearly comes up. And he's got one intention there. And then the sleuth foot, and then the high sticking one. The pucks right there. It's a high stick right to the forehead. Four minutes, two is cutting the space. And I'll say two. It's-- there were missed calls in both the records. But the three big ones that really set out to me were those three there. In critical place, too. Like, I mean, one of them, you'd lead so Gogo in the other way as well, right? Also, like, we're talking about four minutes of fennel. I mean, it's potentially there, right? You get that double minor. That can change the game. The refs don't-- you don't go back and be like, oh, that could have changed the game. The Canucks go on. But reality is, the guy's bleeding. It's coming down this cheek. And it was an interesting exchange on the bench there, too, where Hughes goes back. And he's told-- told by the trainer, like, you got to go off. We got to stitch you up. And he's like, no, he's staying on. He wanted to-- I think he wanted to show the referee that. This is a thing that happened. Last round, Yoshi, right? Same thing. And so Hughes comes back out, the ensuing shift. He gets sent off the ice by the official, because he's still bleeding. So that adds even compounds the issue. Because now, not only do you not get the call, now he has to miss the shift, because officials don't want him on the ice, because he's bleeding from the high stick that went on call. Yeah, yeah. That one was egregious to me, and I-- that's a rick talk at word I know. But the guy's the cane one. There's a couple there, right? Where you can't even justify the opposition to it, because those are obvious penalties. Obvious. Yeah, obvious. And we talked about it. This is how rivalries and grudge matches are made, right? The hate in this got elevated two, three notches to me in this game. And on the road in Edmonton is going to be an interesting one. Yeah, it will be. And the other thing that connects tonight, they had three separate leads. One goal leads scored the first goal, two one lead, then a three, two lead. And they just failed to hold on to any of those leads here tonight, as well. And it wasn't Arthur Shilov's fault. It's not a game you can point to the goaltender and say, he couldn't make a save. If anything, he made a number of big saves in this game, especially in the third. And even after Edmonton tied it, they really had the pressure going. And he made a number of goal stand saves to keep the puck out. So you can't blame it on goal tending, but that's something the coach is not going to be happy about. You had three separate leads tonight, and you weren't able to close it out. There's certain things you can control in a game, and there's certain things you can't. Officiating you can't, right? You can make your case, which both teams were making rather openly. There was a lot of conversation. But in terms of the mistakes you make yourself, those are things that Rick Talkett's going to probably say, hey, we weren't playing to our principals. There's certain decisions we didn't make, but those key moments can kill you. In this game, they did, but looking forward, big to your point, when you look at these two games, and even through 40 minutes, guys, the height and the inner chances, I believe, were 5'5", 5'5", like they were very, very tight. So I know it's a tough loss, but you walk out of this game to say, if you clean up a couple of those things, you're in a very good spot right now, at the very least, to get a split in Edmonton. - Yeah, a lot of what Ailed the Cox is very correctable. I know we say that a lot during the season, but I go back to just simple execution stuff, and stuff that they can absolutely do. It's not as if we're asking players to do something that they're not capable of, Brett. - Yeah, and that's exactly what Talk's gonna say in video. Like you come into coaches meetings with video to go over, and that's exactly how they lay it out. This is us, we beat ourselves here. They're a good team, but you're making them look good when you're giving them extended shifts in a minute, minute and a half, turning over pucks, controllable is just getting it out, not necessarily trying to go back to demon. They try to control a lot of plays, where I think they can get it nor simplify it. - Rick Tocki yesterday mentioned, wanted to see the breakouts improve. And I think in the first 35 minutes, probably look better in the final 25, and NOT, I really struggled. - Yeah, it was a bit of a fire drill, especially with that McDavid line, when they're feeling the heat. But you started to see the other lines growing confidence too, as well as that happens. So definitely some things that the Canucks are gonna have to, I wonder if they're gonna probably hit the ice for a little bit tomorrow and then fly to Edmonton. But the video sessions will probably be a little lively, because yeah, there are certain things where you look back and say, you're in this game. You probably take this game or have a very good chance, you just clean up one or two things. - Yeah, and that's the thing. I mean, there are a lot of correctable things in this game, but at the same time, the lead thing is something. And I did think the Canucks lost a lot of battles in that third period, and in overtime. It seemed like all the 50, 50 bucks, or not all of them, obviously, but right. I mean, how many did it seem like Edmonton was coming away with? - Yeah, too many in between where you have numbers. That's why I didn't like, there's numbers, and then there's Edmonton guys on the right side, or Canucks on the wrong side of those packs, where you get into groups of six, five guys. You want a guy between your net and the puck. That's pretty simple, where you just ended up with Edmonton guys on the outside of the scrums, pulling out loose pucks, relieving it. You saw a dry, so how many backhand passes do you make to just relieve pressure? - And even down low in the offensive zone, Edmonton, started to find some room on near both posts, which is something that, you know, if you win that battle behind the net or in the corners and you come out, Zach Hyman was trying three or four times in this game to kind of operate in that space, and she lost, made some big saves there, but that comes from a battle loss somewhere, and that's why there was a little bit more room for not only Hyman, but, you know, you saw some great opportunities for McDavid early on in the game, but I thought they were playing with fire with Hyman there specifically, 'cause he was identifying that soft area to say, all right, I know where to go when those puck battles are lost by Vancouver, and he, you know, say about three or four opportunities, they had some really solid ones. - Yeah, and they didn't shy away from just throwing it through there. McDavid and drives out both through where Hyman just set up the tripod, and they just tried to rip it, and it's amazing how good those three guys are in tight spaces. It's not like Canucks have given them as part of the seas for them, it's the difference of six inches, maybe a foot, and they're making plays and getting shots off, so you gotta be very detail oriented in the defensive zone. - No question about that. Randy, great stuff on the call, alongside Brendan Baszler tonight. Over time, Canucks lose four, three, off to Edmonton for games three and four. - That's right, we'll chat in a couple of days here, guys. It's a new day, game three is coming. - Yeah, we look forward to chatting with you, Randy and Batch from Edmonton, as the Canucks play games three and four against the Oilers. It's Satyar Shah, Brett Fesseling, and Bekna Zar. Keep your thoughts coming in. So we're at Dunbar and Libertex in the box, 656.50. You can also grab a phone line, 604-280-0650. You're told three, one, triple eight, two, seven, five, zero, six, 50. We are awaiting the head coach, Rick Talkett, who's gonna be at the podium, at the podium, coming up momentarily when he does. We'll throw to his thoughts and after that, we will get to more of your phone calls and a lot more of your text messages. But a lot of disappointment on the text in the box. However, some are looking at this as not so bad so far. This text here says, "As annoying as this game was "by the referees, Canucks deserve to be in the series one to one. "So no harm, no foul. "One one seems fair." And if you look at the totality of the game, and I think you guys make a good point, Randy makes a good point. If that call goes on Hughes, four minutes and a third, like who knows how that swings the game? So those calls can have a big impact, of course, one way or the other. But on the totality of things, Edmonton tonight was the better team. The Canucks were the better team in game one. So you can look at it as, hey, it's fair that it's one one. It's a missed opportunity for Vancouver when you had three separate leads to be able to go up to two, oh, in this series. And they have some mistakes. And obviously the last one, it's Cole putting in his own net. The only thing you hope the guys don't do is get overly frustrated with a result like this. - Yeah, and that's the goal. They're gonna go in and like we talked about, they were in the game, that's the positive. But I didn't expect like a sweep here by any means, right? We knew Edmonton was gonna answer tonight. They took him to OT. There was positives up for 40 minutes. Like there's a lot of positives to take from that to carry the game three and two hour roll. You gotta forget it, like, it'd be-- Oh, it comes down to it, it sounds really simple. And we've talked about it before. You get into playoffs and simplicity. Things just get more simple 'cause it's so fast and so aggressive and you just don't have time to think. And that's the mentality you need to have in terms of the next game. It's the next game, this one's over. You gotta do certain things, right? You know, you're gonna learn from your mistakes, but they're correctable. - Yeah, that's what's so puzzling 'cause there were elements even through the Nashville series where it was improving and getting better. And even game one thought, all right, this is a different pace and felt more than capable that they were holding their own, especially in the last 40 minutes. And then to see it slip and it felt like communication issues, even on, like, the Zadorov, SUSI exchange, Qaddafi have been correcting. Just a bunch of things that feel like they're correctable. But again, I gained some confidence who this game just 'cause of the way Edmonton kind of loaded up and it just-- Those guys aren't on the ice. I'm just, I don't sense a threat. - Yeah, there isn't a lot. I mean, I think there was one Nugent Hopkins shot and one Evander Cane shot, I think. That was pretty much all I can think of that was dangerous from Edmonton outside of the McDavid Dreycidal, a Hyman trio being out there. We have a lot of reaction on the text them box 65650. To begin things, we did talk about Ian Cole, who tipped the puck into his own net to give the overtime victory to the Edmonton Oilers. And now that's four goals like we mentioned, through two games where he's played a central part in it. And that's half the goals at Edmonton scored so far. And it's not just a pin it on him 'cause a lot goes into it. But he's a veteran player who's come in here and supposed to bring that veteran presence and be kind of safe in these situations. It's pretty much a nightmare start here for him through the first two games guys in this playoff run for the Canucks. And that's a tough one at the end 'cause I thought overall he was like fine. Like I don't think we had moments tonight when we looked at Ian Cole and said he's a problem tonight. But you got to think that's got to sting for the veteran after having a tough game one and then putting the puck into your own net in overtime. - Yeah, you know, whether it's your fault or not, you're going to have a bit of a nightmare tonight about it and you're going to watch a gun video and you're going to think about what you could do differently. There's not a lot you could do. That's where you need to get back to you as a player and it goes just to things you can control. And it's, you know, we're talking about a lot, but you can't control it. You could maybe play the side of the net more, but you can't really control that bounce. I think the intention was right. Obviously he wants to be better as a veteran. I expect him to be better in game three. - Well, Jason McCorollum says Cole's a warrior. I can understand why the coach wants to have them over Juleson, but I think we shake things up after a loss just to reset and it goes on to say about Patterson and everything too. He's getting better in more steps. But in terms of do you give Juleson a chance? Others are texting in saying the same thing. After the first two games, do we see the coaches and coaching staff make a switch on the back end? - Does the righty lefty thing play a hand in that? - No, I know he's on his 400 in that moment. It should be easier in theory. I'm just curious if a righty plays that a bit differently. - No, I don't think so. I think it's just him just like caught in the middle there. - Yeah, unless like the righty is closer in the goal line and he takes it off his skates or something. But like, who knows if he's going to be in the same position anyways to say that necessarily, right? - Yeah, exactly. It's too much of a hypothetical. - Yeah, it's really unfortunate. And there is some sympathy coming in as well into the Unboxer and Cole, 'cause I thought he had a decent game. - Yeah. - Up until this you think, okay, you rebound after that performance and then it comes to a close on your stick. - I mean, it played 19-12 tonight. I know a couple of shifts in overtime, but it's not like overtime went very long. So I mean, it's not like the coaching staff is showing a lack of confidence in him when it comes to his ice time. - Yeah, I think he's been relatively solid. There's just a couple. - Yeah, absolutely. We'll get to more of your thoughts. But let's go to the head coach, Rick Tockett at the podium. What game and your team's performance overall? - Yeah, there's a lot of storylines to this game. But the bottom, I think the top storyline is McDavid and Dreyso were terrific tonight. - JT said he thought you guys made it too easy on them. Do you agree? - In the third period, yeah. I think they had 13-5 of five chances. Too many guys were flipping pucks out when we didn't have to. That's only an anecdote about our team in the third. I guess that's playoff experience. You have the puck, you have somewhere in your back. Skate with it. Keep your heart rate down. I just felt as soon as somebody got it, they flipped it like everybody. I think there was plays to be made. We never gave them anything to defend it, but that's what happens. And obviously that third goal, got to know who's on the ice. I got to make sure you don't throw the blind pucks out. Things like that. But that's, hopefully, who we learned from those mistakes. - Oh, sorry. Do you feel for Ian on the winner? - Yeah, yeah, I do. I mean, we always tell her, do you get out of that blue? Bad things happen in there. When that line gets loaded up with dry-side-al on it, it does thin out the rest of their lineup. So do your forwards and players that aren't matching up with them, do you expect more from them on the night like this? - Yeah. - What wasn't happening with them? - Well, like I said, when you have the puck, you're gonna move your feet. You gotta hold on to pucks. When you throw pucks away, that's what happens. You're just giving the puck back to the other team. You know, it's like I said, and when McDavid and Drysall have the on the ice, you gotta hold on to some pucks. You gotta do make some plays, but the rest of the lines have to do the same. - And now, when you were talking about holding it on, you're talking about it in your exit specifically, or in your offensive zone, 'cause it looked like getting tough time down anywhere, 200 foot game. Anyway, it could be our face-off wins defensively. It could be along the wall. It could be a lot of different things. - Ric just your thoughts on the general flow of the game in terms of the whistle and the officiating tonight? - Tough job. Tough job. The only I don't like is the slough-foots. Like I like Kelly and Eric, and maybe they missed them. There's a couple of slough-foots that are un-huggy I didn't like. But other than that, I mean, what are you gonna do? I mean, it's a tough job. They're in a tough, you know, there's a lot of stuff out there tonight. - With their loaded top line once Drysidal goes up there and then their controlling play for much of the night. Does that, how do you sort of get JT and Brock the touches in the offensive zone, 'cause we know how important their offense has been to your team, given how rarely they sort of were in the offensive zone tonight? - Well, yeah, I mean, the same thing. Hold pox, make some plays. I, you know, listen, it's hard to defend those two guys. You know, it's not just those two. I mean, we had other lines go against them. You want to, you don't want to give them too much respect. I felt sometimes we could have jumped them a little bit quicker to squash some plays. I think we, we like taking back ice on certain things and sometimes we like to press. I didn't think we pressed to, especially in the third, it made them too easy coming out of the corners. I thought we could have maybe been a little bit more aggressive with them in the corners, I thought. - That five minutes stretch late in the third. How, was fatigue a factor, you think, for you guys? - Yeah, yeah, I saw some guys, yeah. - And is that just from having chase for so much of the third in general or? - Yeah, and you know, you overuse some guys. I mean, some guys here, they got to pick it up too. I mean, I, they want to play, but you got to dig in. Like we, you can't be a liability. I mean, you know, if you're not getting much ice time, there's a reason why. And we need some guys to pick it up a little bit. - Just a thought on the power play. I mean, PD gets that goal. GT finds the perfect pass. What did that say about what your team couldn't and can do? - Yeah, so the looks were their last game. I told you about execution. You know, it's a nice play through the mill. PD, you know, nice sweep shot in the net. You know, the skinner doesn't have a chance. It's all execution. - You mentioned breakouts being something you wanted to work on after game one. Did that continue to be an issue for your team tonight? - I thought we were okay early. And like I said, when they made the press in the third, I just thought we were a little hot potato with the puck. You know? Yeah, for me, like it's like, you know, I used to talk, Sid Crosby was the best at this. We used to talk about it. You know, when somebody's on your back and you have the puck, your heart rate should never be 200. It should be the same because, you know, you have possession, just skate with it. I think we're just hot potato, especially in the third. And we got to make sure that going into the game three, we got to be composed with that puck. Especially when they, listen, they're going to get their, they're going to get their match ups in Edmonton. So we're going to do everybody to make sure that they do that. - What do you think of the play of your goal tender tonight? - He was really good. I'm really proud of him. I thought he was really good. - And just your thoughts on the overtime goal that ultimately ended this one? - Yeah, I mean, I just, I just, I went off cold or stiff. I guess that's what you're going to do. - Rick, you guys, obviously they responded after their loss. What do you want to see from your guys? You played so well in the road anyway. What do you really want to see from your guys? - Mick, they have been dry settled. They were, they were unreal tonight. And, you know, they were, they were all over the ice. I thought for the first two periods, you know, we were hanging in there. I obviously didn't like the third goal. Thought we could have managed that a little bit better, but for the most part, the first two, then the third they were making a press. I just thought we, if we make some good passes, if we hold onto a puck, if we make a play, that's less possession time for them. But if we're just going to flip pucks out and give it back to them, of course, they're going to keep coming down in a throat. So, but hey, listen, losing overtime, beat them last game, like we're in this series. Like it's going to be a, you know, we're in this series. - Do you think maybe playing on the road a little less pressure, maybe just go in and play a, maybe a simpler game or play the game? - Oh, we're a good road team. I mean, I don't care, you know, to be, to be a good playoff team, you got to play anywhere at any time. So, I don't think that, you know, their fans are great too. They're going to be, what's the difference? Somebody booing your, you know, cheering you. It's a 200 by 80 foot, I, I don't understand the home where it spooks people, who cares? They don't boo or cheer, who cares? And to me, it's a 200 foot, 85 foot game. Let's go play it. - You mentioned the more patience with the puck and also trying to kill plays in your end. Is it just pressure that you wanted to see more of? - Well, there's a time and place to take back ice and come off a guy. I just felt we did it a little too much. And I thought, you know, if you, if McDavid and Dryse, they're playing 20, 29 minutes, when they're in the corner, we got to be a little more aggressive on them and make it a little tougher for them. I thought they were in the corner, they came out, not so much untouched, but they had a lot of flow coming out of the gun. I think there's times we can double up on them and make it a little bit harder for them. Now, that's the hard part is when you do it, 'cause if you do it too quick, they're gonna burn you. So, you know, I get it, but I just think we respected them a little too much in the corners, I thought. - Thank you. - Okay, guys, thanks. - That is Canucks head coach Rick Tockett after a four, three overtime loss against the Edmonton Oilers and not too, none too happy with their third period of him. He was pretty reserved with how he shared his thoughts here, but he wasn't too happy. And that is at the podium brought to you by Tile Town for Vision Reality, Tile Town has everything you need for your tiling project. See them today in Victoria, Richmond Langley and online at mytailtown.ca, Satya Arashaw, Biknazar, and Brett Fesserling. We are gonna be back on the other side. More of your takes on the texting box and the forum boards. We'll dig into what the head coach had to say. We'll hear from other Canucks players after an overtime loss series now tied at one game of peace, Canucks and Oilers. And this is the Canucks under post game show presented by the number five orange. So the game is over, but he's a night really done. The number five is open. More next in the home of your Canucks sportsnet 650. Hey, it's Dan Reachow and Satya Arashaw. Join us for Canucks Central where we will set up the game and break down the latest around the Canucks. 4 to 6 p.m. and post game on Sportsnet 650 and wherever you get your podcasts. This is where you talk Canucks. You're listening to the Canucks Central Post Game Show on the official home of the Canucks. Sportsnet 650 and the Sportsnet Radio Network. Patterson right wing to the red line dumps it in. Vancouver can change. The Oilers will begin a change too. And there's a chime in onto the ice. With Drycidal and McDavid. And here's McDavid with speed. Right wing to the Vancouver line for Drycidal. On the boards, bottom of the circle. Back to Bouchard to the point. Parries down the wall. For the bulky scores. Evan Bouchard fired it to the net. And I think it bounced off one of the Canucks in front and in. And the Oilers, who never led in this hockey game tonight, have tied the series at 1-1. McDavid and Drycidal were unreal tonight. And you know, they were all over the ice. I thought for the first two periods, you know, we were hanging in there. I obviously didn't like the third goal. I would kind of manage that a little bit better. But for the most part, the first two, then the third they were making a press. I just thought we, if we make some good passes, if we hold onto a puck, if we make a play, that's less possession time for them. But if we're just going to flip pucks out and give it back to them, of course, they're going to keep coming down in a throat. So, but hey, listen, losing overtime, beat them last game. Like we're in this series. Like it's going to be a, you know, we're in this series. Canucks head coach Rick Tockett, after a tough 4-3 overtime loss against the Edmonton Oilers. And this is the Canucks Central Post game show presented by the number five orange on sports in the 650 Satyar Shah, Brett Festilling and Bikna Zar. Keep your thoughts coming into our text inbox, 65650. You can also grab a phone line, 604-280-0650. The head coach, you know, did talk about Ian Cole, who tipped in the game winning goal from Evan Bouchard. You heard the call coming in. And it said it was tough, but he also said nothing good happens when you're in the blue. Yeah, get out of the blue. Yeah. That's exactly it. And we talked about him being in between and that's right. Like you're out of the blue box and out or you're in a lane, but you almost set up that back bumper, that guard that funnels it back to the net if you're in the blue. Right, and yeah, it ends up costing the Canucks and they lose this game in overtime. And he was asked about officiating, said it's a tough job. However, he did say he did not like the sleuth woods. Yeah, I mean, that was a dangerous play. Yeah. Simple as that. So, yeah, I don't know if you need to say anything beyond that. That's... That was basically a stir in his rick talk against the official. Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, Tyler, he makes his point. And I imagine he wants the league to review anything. And like we talked about the elbow and the sleuth foot is obviously a big one, especially in like an important stretch of the game. But that's usually a stir in his rick talk and we'll get it with the officials. Yeah, I mean, this text here from Tyler says that was a massive comment on the reps. It would not have had so much weight if he blasted reps every game. He doesn't really say much about the officials. And he wasn't too happy about that. And then on the third goal, we talked about it, right? Game management, you're out against McDavid and dry side. You have a lead in the third period, Susie and Arona. I mean, the make the plays, it leads to McDavid getting that breakaway chance. And the coach just says that just can't be happening in that type of situation. Yeah. It's a poor decision. Like we talked before about correctables. That's a big one. That's just a bad decision at a certain moment against the last guy you want to make that decision against. 100%. And the other thing you mentioned was some guys have to pick it up. They have to dig in. It can't be a liability. If you're not getting the ice time you want, it's a reason. That's a comment right there. I think it's one of those games where he was fairly measured but clearly critical of their third period performance. That's one of those where I'm sure he probably had a few words for the guys about how they closed that one out because he did not. He wasn't happy about how they played in the third, not holding on to pucks. So you know how sometimes people wonder is the coach telling the guys to sit back? Clearly he's not. Like he does not like the whole just get rid of the puck as quick as you can. Just get the exits and just go and change. Like he wants them to make plays and play under pressure. Yeah. And I think going back the entire year, because they've led so much going on the third, I think he's touched on this point time and time and time again. And he wants guys to make plays that they need to move their feet. That he doesn't want to turn it over and just take pressure back. So I think tonight, the way he was talking, that was kind of a built up frustration. I'm spending the whole year talking about that. And then this is the last team you really want to do. This is the most punishing team you can do that against. Yeah. And a lot of text going in about, you know, it looked like they're doing a lot of flipouts there at the tail end of it. And that's exactly what Rick talking mentioned, that just making it too easy. You guys will flip it out and especially when you don't have to. Yeah. And we mentioned like there were plays to be made. They would blow up on a guy's stick and all these little issues. And certainly not helping yourself when you're just flipping pucks out. No, not at all. And that was a problem for the Canucks in the third period. And obviously end up losing this game in overtime. But he did maintain. We're in the series. We're a good road team. He's not overly concerned, won one in the series. But clearly, they're like what happened tonight. But he was very pleased with his young NetMinder. Silobs, when Silobs is really good tonight. Proud of the performance that NetMinder had. And you can't really fault him for any of the goals. And he made a number of really high level saves. And the thing I was most impressed by guys with was how he played in the third. Where he had some net front scrambles, right? There was one point he got hit behind the net. Now he did misplay the puck behind the net. Which led to that bit of a hectic point in the third period. Well, second period, I think. It was second period or third period. He got blown up behind the net where he mishandled the puck. And then Hyman closed in on him. Yeah, second period. I think second period. He kind of invites the pressure. Yeah. But outside of that, I thought in the third, there was a few real close chances. And he held his ground really well. I was impressed by how he played, especially in the third. Yeah, he looked solid. He looked like a veteran goalie to me. That's the biggest thing is he's calm in the moment. And you're right, he made some big stops in the crease on guys. Even during the game that one dries that'll stop. One timer was incredible. Like he made big stays to keep them in certain parts of the game. No, absolutely. The one thing he wasn't asked about was a lotto line. And we touched on this on the overtime intermission, guys, that in the third. Every time JIT was out there, that line got crushed. And it was a lotto line. I pretty much played the last 10 minutes of that third period. And they had a hard time not only getting out of their own zone, generated next to nothing. And that was not a topic that the coach addressed. But for all those, let's say, hey, they used a lotto line. Go head to head. Well, that matchup didn't quite work out of Vancouver. Five on five in three minutes and 19 seconds that lotto lines together. The shot attempts were 10 nothing in favor of Edmonton. Five height angels. You want to talk about that third period stretch where the Oilers started to ramp it up? They had a 7-1 height angel advantage in the third period. So it's all attributed to the lotto line. What's interesting here, though, and I've been trying to map this out here. In overtime, it started Suder Besser Miller. So he'd broken it up at the start of overtime. And a sequence comes up where it looks like it was Fogle, Caine and Nugent Hopkins out together. And then out comes Holloway and that trio out there with Jan Mark and somebody else. And he decides to go lotto line in that spot. You look at the way the play this play develops. It's huge in the neutral zone. And he's kind of skating right into traffic. And somebody from the bench comes on. Maybe he was an extra man in the ice. But never let someone from the bench disrupts huge. But he's not there to make any plays. He's only going to just dump it in. And he throws a lot of line when they don't, when they have a chance of possession. And they end up in their own zone out against Holloway. And you just think, well, this is 40 seconds wasted. In a moment where I like the ambition to say, okay, I can recognize what's coming. And I'm going to go put the Lotto line and get them away from McDavid for a second. Maybe I can get the goal. But you don't have position of the puck. So you just burned 40 seconds. And what's the next line that goes out? It's McDavid. And where does the goal come? Immediately after. And they're out there against Lafferty, McKev and Blueger. And what's weird to me, PDG had taken the shift right before. So it's not even the Lindholm line that was out there. Lafferty was the shift before the Lotto line. So you skipped Lindholm against McDavid. And you put the Lotto line out when he didn't have possession. That to me is a really puzzling moment. You burned when you're moments and it ends up costing you. Because I think Lafferty can be a little closer on Bootchart on that shot that ends up going off in Cole. And you're talking about, if you want more ice time, earn it. And then in OT, out against McDavid, you're putting up Sam Lafferty. You would play eight minutes. Yeah, and we were talking or going through it when Hughes is skating up the ice. And they're changing. And we can kind of see it coming, right? And Blueger, they hop over and they go and we're like, "Oh, no. Why is this coming up?" And I think in the moment when Hughes gets the puck, those guys are starting to come off because there is control. I think he thinks that they're not going to turn over control so fast. Because you're right, it didn't make sense why that line goes on against that line so fast. And it just flipped so quick. So I don't know. I'm just surprised that Lafferty got two shifts before Lindholm. That's odd. He's on the ice, comes off for a lot of line and he's back on the ice. Yeah, I think he wanted to get all the guys involved in overtime. But I was a bit curious about that as well. I mean, do you want to get Lindholm there a bit more situation? Like Joshua and Garland sit back and Sam Lafferty who's played eight minutes gets to go twice? That's because he wanted to go with the Lotto line again, right? That's probably why they end up doing that. Sure, but in theory, the next sequence should be... You know, yeah, they skipped over them. Yeah, no, I agree. I'm with you on that. So something they can look at, what opportunities to take advantage of and something I worked against the Canucks. And they lose 4-3 in overtime. We have a lot of reaction on a text unbox, 6-56-50. This one from James says, "I didn't like the Lotto line as they drop hogs to the fourth, bring Lafferty up with Pedersen and Mckayev. I laughed and it looked terrible tonight. That's James and Qualican Beach. I mean, he played just like nine minutes, so I had a couple moments. But it's one of those things. We'll see if the coach makes some adjustments because he had some pretty stern words about guys that want more ice time that aren't getting it. So we'll see if they make a change for Game 3 in Edmonton. All right, let's go to the foam board. 6-0-4-2-8-0, 0-6-50. You're toll free. 1-888-275-0-6-50. Let's go to North Van where we have Drew on the line. Drew, thanks for calling in. What are your thoughts after 4-3 connects lost in overtime? Well, guys, first time caller list, long time listener, maybe longer than you have been alive. Anyways, that was the absolute worst officiating I've ever seen in my life. It's Dodson's maybe 2011 where I watched Daniel City and get punched in the face five times by Bud Marshan and then get a 10 minute misconduct or complaining about it. Kelly Sutherland was in charge tonight. That's wrong. He obviously showed his colors tonight. The hit on PD behind the net by nurses and easy five minutes on a game. They're down to the fenceman for the rest of the game. We get a five minute power play. We're up one nothing. What's going on there? He looked at the high stick on news at four minutes. We're up a goal. Our power play is killing it. Connor McBabies, obviously the guy who did the infringement. But of course, there's no call. There's four referees on the ice. There's four people on the ice that can make that call at a high stick. How come nobody saw that? That is absolute garbage. You know, the most interesting thing, I think I'm going to try to keep this quick, but I got lots. The X, uh, nobody at the intermission person emission even talked about the hit on PD. There was nothing where they instructed not to talk about it. How was that not even looked at? That is, that's, you know, I've been conoxed and since I've been, I'm almost 50 years old. This is brutal. Kudos to talk it for not going after the rest. Cause I mean, that's nine minutes in penalties must plus a defense. Then they're down to five defense for three quarters of the game. It's getting their's gone, which I believe you should have. You could have ended cuttersons career. Um, and lastly, you know, that man got his wish. I mean, the gambling involved in this game these days, how can you legitimize a sport that partners with a gambling institution? You look at this garbage going on. Like what's going on here? All right. Yeah. All right. Thanks. Thanks. Yeah. You got it. Just going off a bit of a tangent. I got, I got the frustration. Obviously thanks to the phone call call in again in the future for sure. But on the fact of the officiating. Yeah. I mean, we talked about it. You know, obviously fans are very upset about it too. And I rightfully so with the fact that you've seen what's, what's happened with Kelly Sutherland in the past and he references the one that everybody remembers from 2011 when. And Daniel sitting, well, Marchant is going at it on with Daniel sitting and somehow Daniel gets a 10 minute misconduct out of it as well because he looks at the referee and says, you're not going to call this and he gives Daniel the misconduct. So there's a lot of water there and it's not under the bridge for Canucks fans. And tonight, attitude, because there were a few obvious ones, right? Like, now it's not like Edmonton had a ton of power play opportunities, right? Like they, they had three technically because they had one that was a short one. So they had three power play opportunities tonight. They had one last game. So it's four through two games. They've scored two goals on it though. So that's, that's kind of the issue with the peripheral Edmonton so far. But it's more about the types of calls that didn't happen tonight, that they were so egregious, the high stick that draws blood. Of course, we talked about the slough foots. That's obvious to the elbow by nurse to the back of Patterson's head. That's obvious as well. And, and I know Ryan got a penalty for it, but the Ryan slash between the legs on Hoaglander. I mean, that's one that usually ends up in a fine. Sometimes a suspension and somehow it was an off-setting penalty there. So there was a lot of stuff there that's very obvious to look at that clearly crossed the line and wasn't. I don't think penalized either to the extent it should have been, i.e. the Hoaglander Ryan exchange or not penalized at all. Yeah, it was a, it was a poor night officially. Okay, so how tough is that mentally as a player when you know there's a couple of things that aren't going your way? And like I've used the term, it feels like you're getting gas that I imagine. It's like really, they're not doing this and that mental switch off, I guess, that happens. And look, we talked about the second animation as well. I thought they missed a lot in both directions, right? Like there were interferences and there was holdings by the Canucks up the ice that could have been called. I don't know if the TV broadcast picked it up, but our vantage point, like away from the play, there's a lot that could have been called tonight. Obviously, the elbow and the slough foot and the high stick are the three high profile ones that could have went for Vancouver. But just in general, when stuff like that is going against you, what's the mindset? I'm kind of the wrong guy to ask on this, because I'm the snapshot. Okay, I'm going to lose my mind, probably get penalized for snapping. Like there was a point, there's certain games where I'm like, I'm going to be forced out of the game for taking a swing at a ref. Like that's how fired up you can get in terms of the mentality when things are not going your way on that. Now, I hate these simple answers and they're so cliche, but it's just like, it's things you can't control. If you let it snowball, you're done, because you're going to take more and then you're just knocking to be able to focus. You don't put together simple plays and you're just not in the moment, especially in playoffs. You need to be in the moment playing shift by shift and really focused on that. It's so easy with this type of officiating, which was terrible to just get out of that focus. And then it's so hard to win when you're not focused. Yeah, absolutely. And that's one of the problems here for the Canucks tonight, losing 4-3 over time. Let's go back to the foam boards. Let's take one more foam call here before we hit the break. Let's go to Quotlin, where we have a gourd on the line. Gourd, thanks for calling in. What are your thoughts here tonight? Hey, guys, regardless of what the play was, stats, penalties, referees, whatever, sometimes when you're at the game, I've been to every playoff game and the vantage point, we don't always see and see things that you guys do. All I can say really is I was disappointed with the fans tonight. There were so many times where third period over time, we could have been a lot, a lot louder to really encourage the team on. And the fans just, the fans didn't bring it. Let's put it that way. It's really, really disappointing. I think that's all I want to say. Hey, thanks for the foam call. That's Gourd and Quotlin calling out the fans a little bit here tonight. There were some nerves. It's invited pressure and what's going to happen to the fans, right? They're going to get nervous with them. Well, the Canucks, yeah, I mean, Edmonton, this was the first time in this series where Edmonton for an entire period was clearly the better team. They were back and forth. The first game for the most part, I thought of the Canucks were the better team. First and second period, pretty even. I thought Edmonton had a slight edge in the first, Canucks had the edge in the second. The third was, like, dominant. The Canucks were hemmed in their own zone for the whole thing, and that created some nervousness in the arena, that's for sure. Keep your thoughts coming into our text in the box, 656.50. We'll have more of your questions there in comments. And we are going to get to the thoughts of other Canucks players after a four, three over time loss. It's Satyar Shah Biknazar and Brett Festolink, and this is the Canucks Central Post Game Show presented by Number 5 Orange of Vancouver Legend. They've got sports too. More next in the home of your Canucks. Sports net, 650. Canucks talk with Jamie Dodd and Thomas Drans will dive deep into all that's happening with the Vancouver Canucks. Listen 12 to 2 p.m. on Sports net 650, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is the Canucks Central Post Game Show. Join the discussion on the official home of the Canucks. Sports net, 650, and the Sports net Radio Network. Zidorov in his own end spins deep with 150 left in the middle for him. Two all tie in game two. Miller gets a free to Zidorov with a burst of speed for the rather live left wing. Zidorov in the corner tight. He scores! Nikita Zidorov with another bullet off the rush. Gives the Canucks the lead again in the final two minutes of the second period. There's FanTuber 3, and Edmonton 2. And Nikita Zidorov hits him high. Stewart Skinner has no chance on that one. As he picks up the puck in the neutral zone and goes near the goal line. A seeing eye shot that beats Skinner over the right shoulder. And Skinner has no idea where this puck is. Nikita Zidorov cannot stop for him. Makes it 3-2 Vancouver. Canucks end up losing 4-3 in overtime. Had three separate leads as the one you heard there. Nikita Zidorov, an absolute snipe. Incredible from the big defenseman who continues to impress for the Canucks here on the postseason. Unfortunately, in a loss tonight, and this is the Canucks Central Post Game Show presented by the number five orange on the home of your Canucks. Sportsnet 650, Satyarashal Biknazar, and Brett Festerly. Keep your thoughts coming into our text inbox, 650-650. You can also grab a phone line, 604-280-0650 or toll-free, 1-888-275-0650. And we are going to get to the phone boards coming up in a second. But Bik, we have a lot of reaction on the text inbox as well. Yeah, 650-650 aims for North Van. Get me a jersey with the number Z on it. That's an idea, right, just a big Z across, like Zorov? Boy, what was Ian Cole trying to do there? Stop the puck, tip it away from goal. Help me understand what happened there, because he should have been one time in the puck away from that area. That is the opposite of what he was doing. Look, we just got another look at it here, too, Brett. Yeah, so Brett, like, as a former NHL defenseman yourself, what should Ian Cole be doing in that situation? Well, I think it just ties into the fatigue part. He should have been checking where Hyman is, and then he's just getting into Hyman. And then you're not in that position. You got the guy you're worried about. But the problem is, is he doesn't do that. And then by the time the shot's coming, he knows Hyman's somewhere there, but he doesn't know. So then he's trying to block the pass shot, and that's where the tip comes from, right? It's a bit of a panic button when he realizes it's coming and he doesn't have Hyman tied up. And then, like Tock had said, nothing good comes from being in the blue, and he's in the blue, and it tips right at it. Especially when you're not engaged with the defender, too, right? That's a frustrating bit. If you're, like, Hyman's battling and you're in the blue and, okay, look, something goes wrong and it goes off you, tough break. McDavid's kind of shuddling tours, but the other D-Man that's with him there is clearly picked him up and pushing him away. And you can just see the way this develops. I don't think Ian Cole ever shoulder checks, right? And, and Luger's like there with McDavid. I don't think he ever shoulder checks to see where Hyman is, and before you know it, he's just trying to make a play on a puck. And it's one-on-one series. It's just, it's so tough, and small margins. I still think Lafferty, I think, can get closer to Bouchard and try to prevent this. You know, stick on puck and maybe create a different play on that because it looks like he just gets a clean lane. And it, look, it's a hard drive up the wall and it creates that lane for Bouchard to sneak into. But for me, that there's a moment here where Lafferty can connect closer to Bouchard, and Ian Cole just never gets his head turned. Yeah, it seems like, I mean, it goes back to focus on Connor McDavid for me, right? He's coming down the wall and you kind of looks like five guys focused on the speed. What's he going to do and, and answer for that? And you just kind of forget about for a second where the other guys are going and then by the time it goes back. People are trying to scramble the line and it's just too late. And just kind of re-watching this too. We talked about the chains with the lotto line and everything like that. They end up dumping it in. Yeah. And there's not a Canucks player ahead of the red line. And McDavid picks this up from behind the net. So, he's got the whole ice of the game, right? And you just think, you chip it in after a shift where you're in your own zone. Should one guy go up there, just something. Yeah. And nobody's there and it's just him the whole way out wide to dry side. Back to Bouchard and where you go. Well, the Canucks weren't good at all. And the third and once you got into overtime as well, right? Like when we saw it unfold there. We're going to the foam boards in a second. A previous caller drew this text says that drew caller had some good points. I have to agree, why is NHL green lighting that type of officiating? Why aren't there no repercussions on the reps for games called like that? Now, there are repercussions at times because what will happen is they won't be at advanced to the next round. So, if the NHL views what happened tonight as being overly egregious, then Kelly Sutherland won't be officiating and Eric Ferlatt in the next round. Yeah. Is that going to happen or not? Given Kelly Sutherland's history with the league and tenure with the league. And the fact that, hey, as bad as the officiating was tonight, is they an HL upset that it's a 1-1 series? Probably not. Right? I'm just saying. Oh, yeah. I told you. So, I'm just saying. I think you wanted me to go that way. I don't know. I feel like the league's going to come after me. No. No, I'm just saying. You have to worry about that. You have to worry about that. I'll take the heat on it. All right. Keep your thoughts coming into our text. The box will hit more of those as the show goes on here. But let's go to the foam boards. 604-280-0650. And let's hit Langley, where we have Gary on the line. Gary, thanks for calling in. What are your thoughts here tonight? Hey, gentlemen. Thanks for taking my call. I love you guys a short start. Thank you. Just going home from the game tonight. First two were good, but we can blame the refs all we want. But the end of the day, it comes down to our own boys. They didn't have a dog in them, in my opinion. The refs did kind of break them down, I think, a little bit. But now heading into Edmonton, two games. Hostile territory there. We know how it is. These guys need to get the dog back in them. Get back up and just do what we can do back in game one. Go back to that same game style. Yeah. I hear you, Gary. Thanks for the phone call. And a lot of it is getting back to what you can do effectively. The one thing that the coach brought up, though, in the third, the oiler's up to pressure. They did, right? They smelled blood. They had adrenaline. They were going where they do something differently. But I wonder how much of that they're going to be taking into their game flying, saying, "Hey, if we put a lot of pressure on the Canucks, this is what Nashville did, too. Put a lot of pressure on the Canucks." And that's where they struggled for large parts, being able to get out of their zone at times, or being able to generate much coming out of that. They didn't give up many quality scoring chances against Nashville because Nashville doesn't have. Connor McDavid and Leon Drey's title, right? It is something I wonder about. Does Edmonton try to enhance some of the things they did in the third period? Or is that just kind of how the game flow went? I think that's game flow. I think that's one them being down and opening it up because you're kind of playing with houses money where you're just freer to play because you can make the mistakes and you're going to cheat on certain things. And then once they had that momentum, they just care it. That's the style they play. I don't think it's like, let's pressure them more in the next game. That's kind of your game plan going on in every game. Now I think it goes back to exactly what we said. Canucks need to play their game in, like, talk, it said. Make plays and execute and skate when they have the puck, not flip it out. And they'll have success. If anything, I think Edmonton threw everything at them with the line and the third period. You still got to OT where a game that you could have took. Again, just like game one and game two after all this, just reinforces that they have the right game plan and that they can. Yeah, absolutely. Let's continue on the foam boards. Let's go to Victoria where we have Ammon on the line. Ammon, thanks for calling in. What are your thoughts here tonight? Well, first of all, thanks for taking my call. I appreciate the post game coverage. Listen, I just wanted to say there's a lot of positives here tonight. The kid played his rear end off and between the pipes. Without him, pardon me, without him, it's not even a game, to be honest. Great project, at least by the line. You guys all know the line I'm referring to. But I wanted to touch on something on a tying goal. Yeah. If you guys recall, Hughes loses his helmet after a big hit. And his helmet's just laying there for what seemed like forever. And they cut to, there's a whistle. They cut to talk and I'm not going to say what he said, but I read his lips. He wasn't happy with the fact. And the commentators made a comment that I think it was cupboard. Or maybe it was since then I don't know. Why didn't the trainers have an extra helmet ready for him to go? He's got that helmet. He's back on the ice. And instead of Myers, a snail chasing a rabbit, it's Hughes on McDavid. Instead of Myers, of course, ironic pinch as well. Their top pair, as opposed to Myers, puts on face. He's not bad, but he's not known for his speed. What do you guys' thoughts on that? Should the trainers not have had a helmet ready for him to go right back out there? Hey, thanks for the phone call and the kind words. And on that, Brett, I mean, you played. Should the trainers have a helmet ready? The answer is you usually do. They usually have a couple out there. Now, the problem is guys have a lot of different size heads and wear different helmets. To be honest with you, there's guys like Zadora. I don't want to close the door off the big head, but I'm guessing he has a bigger head. So they usually do why that. I'm guessing you read his lips, though. Why don't we have a helmet on the bench? I'm guessing he's why you read, but they usually do. And does Hughes not need to go off the ice now when he loses a helmet? So I think you're allowed to make a hockey play if you're engaged. I can bring up the... Yeah, you don't have to go off right away. Like if you're engaged in a play, you're allowed to finish the play, but once it's done, you have to get off the ice. Yeah, so, I mean, is what it is. Yeah, it's a tough one, right? But yeah, maybe something to kind of keep an eye on. Yeah, the rule is within a reasonable period of time. So you're basically allowed to try to make a play off. Yeah, you're allowed to finish the play you're engaged in, and then after that, you have to get off the ice. Brett, we're about to hit the break. We'll be back from more on the other side. But that's the end of your coverage tonight. Fantastic stuff, as always. We'll look forward to having you in studio on Sunday when the Canucks are in Edmonton for Game 3. Thank you. Appreciate it. This one's over. Yeah. Best of five. Got to move on, man. It's the best of five. Fantastic stuff. That's Brett Festooling. It's Satin Bake. We'll be back on the other side. We'll get to more of your phone calls, more of your text messages. We'll be back in minutes here on the Canucks Central Post Game Show presented by the number five orange on home ear Canucks Sportsnet 650. Hey, it's Jamie Dodd and Thomas Drantz. Get your daily dose of Canucks talk with us weekdays from 12 to 2 on Sportsnet 650. Or catch up on demand through your favorite podcast app. This is where you talk Canucks. You're listening to the Canucks Central Post Game Show on the official home of the Canucks. Sportsnet 650 and the Sportsnet Radio Network. Canucks are going to face off of the Euler zone. Hoglander left corner. Protecting it from back home centers in front of a camp. Top of the crease had it tipped away from him by Bouchard. Sushi tried to step up on him and lost the puck. McDavid's got to break away. In alone on she loves he scores. Connor McDavid ties the game at 3 as he got away. After Sushi tried to step up and lay ahead and it's a 3 all tie. The Euler's claw back again. And that's a compounding of mistakes there as Carson Sushi steps up in the offensive zone. Trying to win the puck you can as he hits Zach Hyman. Then Tyler Myers is the last man back and he jumps up as well. Trying to win the puck. Unfortunately, Connor McDavid takes it away from him. He's off to the races. Beats Arthur Shilov's stick side, but that's one mistake by Sushi. And then another chance taken by Tyler Myers. That cost the Vancouver Canucks. The Canucks Central Post game show of Canucks lose 4-3 in overtime. Against the Edmonton Oilers. The series is now tied to one game of peace. And the Canucks now have to travel to Edmonton for games 3-4. And that begins on Sunday. You got to park games you lose in the playoffs and move forward to the next one. You're usually not going to sweep every single series. Anyways, and this as we knew what's going to be a long series. The coach reiterated. We're in the series still at being 1-1. But disappointed with how things unfolded in the 3rd period. We have a lot of reaction on our dumbbar number text inbox 6-56-50. You can also grab a phone line 6-0-4-2-8-0-0-6-50. It's sat and it's big. And when it comes to how the Canucks perform tonight. It's a kind of tale of two halves of the game because they did a lot of good things. And the caller who called in a bit earlier here right before we hit the break. He made some points. But yeah, it wasn't like it was all bad here tonight by the Canucks. I mean, they had some moments where they did some good things. I mean, Brock Besser scored a goal for them tonight. They opened the scoring here this evening. Something like that. A great tip by Brock Besser. And you saw a continuation of the Canucks doing some good things 5-5 as well. And the power play. I mean, for all the talk of Game 1 of missing the three opportunities. They scored a power play goal pretty quickly on the advantage that they had. Leah Patterson finally getting a goal. On a great entry. Yeah, great entry and a great feed from J.T. Miller as well. A wide open effort brought for Elias Patterson who had all the time in the world to score. That assisted by J.T. Miller and Quinn Hughes. Besser mentioned great tip early in the second period. Less than a minute in to give the Canucks a 2-1 lead. And Nikita's the door off in my goodness. What a snipe. I mean, he's almost at the goal line. Goes top cheese on Stuart Skinner. Perhaps Skinner should be on his post a little bit. Why? I mean, who's expecting, you know, I mean, how do you expect the guy from the goal line? And it being a defenseman, Nikita Zodorov, to find that angle. Look, I'm not a goalie guy, okay? But we know that that reverse and everything like that. Yeah. I don't think Skinner is expecting that shot. And so it looks like he goes down parallel to the line real early. Yeah. I'm curious if Zodorov saw that. And he's like, "All right, let's do the shot." 'Cause like, he's near the goal line, but it's far enough of a distance. Yeah. You should still expect a shot. And so he's not really tracking Zodorov. He's just trying to get tight to the line. And I'm a bit surprised at how early it looked like Skinner went down. Yeah. And I mean, there was some daylight there. And he found a very little daylight, but Zodorov found it. What a snipe. Incredible playoffs for him. And a lot of reaction on the text inbox for Nikita Zodorov. As you would imagine, I mean, he's been tremendous at this postseason. That one said, this one says, "Zodorov's night was identical to the one he scored in the pred series." That is so sick. And Bretton Langley says, "Also seriously, Zodorov, driving Lambos, pay this man." Bretton Langley texting in a lot more thoughts here. We'll get to as a show goes on. All right. Let's go to the phone boards. 604-280-0650, toll-free, 1-888-275-0650. And let's go to Jesse in Calgary. Jesse, thanks for calling in. What are your thoughts here tonight? Sorry. Yeah. Hey, guys. Jesse, time out, time out, time out. We're dog fans on the show. What's the dog's name? Oh, my dog's name's George. George. Yeah. George trying to get a lap on the post-game show. We love it. Yeah. No, for sure. I think it's a bit of a, you know, Peter Toddard game back and forth giving up, you know, a three-goal lead. Three separate leads. It's a little tough, especially going in, you know, about splitting the series and going, now having to fly to Edmonton where it's, I think, it's good. This series is over in six goal orders. All right. Thanks to the phone call. All right. I think that was an Euler's fan who called it. Right. Oh, I see what just happened. That wasn't even though. That wasn't. Well, if I knew we're going to get Euler's, we should put them first. So used to first of all picks and being disappointing too. Exactly. Should have, should have got George in earlier. And honestly though, I was happy you called in because we got to meet his dog, George. That's fantastic. Honestly, I feel like the winner in this exchange. That's how I feel. George had better takes. All right. All right. Great stuff. Let's continue on the phone boards. This one. Let's go to Jose and Lions Bay. Jose, thanks for calling in. And what do you have first tonight? Hey, guys. First of all, you know, overall, you know, this was a good game. I thought the connect plays fairly well. I was disappointed to see them lose. I mean, they certainly held a few leaves during the game. What I will say is that the disappointed in every time they actually got a lead. It gave up the actual lead. Pretty quickly for whatever reason. So that was a little bit disappointing. I was happy to see also that archer was definitely rebounded from game one. He looked a lot more confident. Better job tracking pucks as well, too. And, you know, that's a positive. You know, if I look back and here we are, the cuts are now heading to, um, to Edmonton. And I'm just thinking, what is it going to take for the cooks to actually win this series? And yeah, I think we saw this tonight. I mean, if you want to go head to head against Connor McDavid and Leon Drey's title. Um, you're not going to win, right? But if you take a look at this more holistically and you look at the overall depth of both teams. The cuts have a deeper team. It's just that they don't have that far high end talent. So what I'm saying is when we've been playing 28 minutes tonight twice until 27. I'm in 25 ever blue shark, like 30 minutes. I mean, that's more than what a lot of the comments are playing tonight. But I was listening to Rick talk is comments. Um, post game and, you know, the whole point around getting other players from our playtime. I know he really feels strong as they do deserve that. But he's really got to exploit the overall depth of this team and spread out the middle because they let's fatigue at the end. Probably the last 10 to 15 minutes in the third period. And I'm thinking if Edmonton is going to try to keep leveraging McDavid and Drey's title. How sustainable is it for those guys to play 28 27 minutes a game? I'm hoping that the console had to have a little more jump if the series continues to move forward. Anyways, guys, great post game as well, too. With that, with you guys, Brett Special, look back to you. Hey, thanks for the phone call, Jose and the kind words as always, you know, in terms of the sustainability. I mean, your reaction as soon as this game ended and as soon as we got into the post game show was like, yeah, Edmonton won this game. But like, cool, I'm not, I'm not impressed. I'm fairly non-plussed about it, to be honest. Yeah. Like, 28 minutes, I don't, can you do that every game? Well, I mean, if Drey's title is banged up and the best you can do is him kind of playing with McDavid. So you can ask less of him, you know, instead of him playing down the middle. Is it sustainable having to throw those guys out there that much? And hey, listen, honestly, to win the series, they can do it to win the series. For them now, they have to win three more games. Yeah, both teams have done 25% of the job. If you're looking at it, if Edmonton has to do that to win the series and then go on to win the Stanley Cup, like Godspeed. Sure. But in terms of winning the series, is a sustainable short term? Yes, long term, that's where I have the concern. So now, what's the counter? Okay, if Drey's title is going to live in this reality where he has to play the wing. And not just any wing, he's going to play with McDavid's wing. They have gone to their supernova line. What to use the counter? Because it's, you know, for me, I would look at that and I'd say, I felt okay for 40 minutes of it. You don't have that moment where Myers and Susie have the exchange where they give McDavid the runway. Susie has the exchange with the door off, which gives Drey a certain opportunity there. And it goes on McDavid straight to deck home. Like, I was okay with Lindholm and Miller switching out the opportunities to go up against that line. It was really just the last seven minutes. Yeah. And that's the lotto line. And if you're saying, okay, it's going to be McDavid, Drey's title, and anyone can go against the other three centers. I think what you do now is you've got to get like a real winger on Leah's better sense wing. Because it's not as if there's aren't opportunities there. Well, that's why, I mean, if you're looking to load up the lotto line, I know he likes Lindholm playing with Joshua and Garland. But I mean, with how much trust he's showing. Blueger can't just put Blueger back with Dakota Joshua and then put Lindholm and Patterson together. That to me is one option. You know, I mentioned to you the other day. Do you go PDG, Miller, Besser again? And they get sued back with McCabe and PD. Yeah, I mean, it's an option. If you get Patterson going, you're going to have to break, you're forcing them to break that up. Okay, so against Nashville, at no point outside of the series being one one, were the Canucks under any real duress in the series. Like you were always on the front foot and the coach, coach like that. He was always, he was firm with how he kept his four lines. He was firm with, with how he wanted to go with his matchups and ultimately they win that series in six games. All is fine. The way he sounded post game tonight and not to say he wasn't, you know, you know, fire and brimstone. But for a guy in the post season has been very measured with what he said. There was real urgency in, in his talk and in him saying we're still in this series. I wonder if that was as much of him reminding himself about how he feels in the moment, about how the game went or whatever it was, missed opportunity to go up to nothing. We had to lead in the third and all that, right? But at the same time, I think it's one of those things where can you afford to be too slow to make changes? Now that you lost the game, is this now going to be the moment where we see the adjustment? Where we see somebody come out of the lineup. Whether it's on the back end, Ian Cole, is it somebody up front? Does, does put Coles and get in, for instance, who just was recalled after the episode Canucks post season came to an end? Amongst nine other guys. Yeah, do we see the lines shuffle a little bit? I, I, I wonder, I don't think he's going to do too much because you don't want to all of a sudden make four or five changes after one loss and, and then, you know, show a little bit of panic. But I wonder if, if tonight is finally an impetus for him to go away from his does, his preferred lineup so far in the playoffs. Sam Lafferty, 854 tonight, Philadelphia, 851 tonight, Nils Hoglander, 1020, Ilya McCabe, 1357, and who did I miss here? Oh, I got Sam Lafferty. So yeah, like there, there's a couple of candidates there. Yeah, no, absolutely. This text says, "Tocket isn't maximizing the lineup playing Lindholm with Garland and Joshua. Put Luger there and put Lindholm with Patterson enough of spreading it out." And the fact that this one says this text says, "The fact that dry settle and McDavid were together spoke of desperation to me this early." And they played more than Hughes. It was the only one in the top five in ice time minutes for the Canucks. And is a desperation was also out of necessity with dry settle being injured. If dry settle doesn't have his injury, do we see them like, I don't, it's out of desperation. I think it's a little bit of a call, maybe a little bit of a call being, but I'll shade more towards B. Like, I'm floored. If this was the plan in game two, you're worried about, like, you haven't lost a home ice. Yeah. And you're in this situation where you're like, well, let's just go to the supernova lie, which, hey, like, it works, clearly. There's no denying though, they'll put up points. But you're that worried already in game two to say we had to do this? Is it out of necessity because you might not be able to hand the physical demands playing B and center? No, absolutely. I think that's absolutely something that plays a part into it. It's like two things can be true at the same time, right? I think that's one of the ones. And this text says that two things can be true at the same time. The refs were awful, but Canucks needed way more possession and chances in the third face off wins subpar as well. They ended up being pretty even in the face off circle, but I understand what the texture is saying. Situationally, it seemed like the Canucks lost most of the big face offs tonight. And it seemed like in the third period, when the Canucks can get out of their own zone, there was some key face offs that Edmonton won. Now, is that just how it felt because of the game flow and, in fact, Edmonton up the pressure in the third? But I understand what the texture says. I know they were fairly even, but were they 50% at the end of the evening? The Canucks actually had a 52% face off percentage, but they have 48. Even more importantly, in the offensive zone, Canucks were 61% and the offensive zone 56%. Yeah. So the neutral zone is where they lost most of them. Yeah, 35%. Yeah, so sometimes, you know, again, if you were to ask me without looking at the numbers, I would have felt the same thing the texture says. It did feel like they lost some big ones, key situations. On special teams in the offensive zone, they lost both of their power play draws and on short-handed in the D zone. They went 60% in their own zone. All right, that's fine. Yeah. So they did okay. Yeah. But I think there's more to be extracted there. For sure. From them and face-ifs. Rafe correcting me saying, "Satt, talk it didn't say we're still in the series." He said, "We're in the series." Big difference. Well, it is a difference of a word and you write words matter. He didn't say-- Well, still is a triggering word. It is, yeah. When someone tells you, you'll be like, "Oh, you stole it." Yeah, you stole it. Yeah, I get it. Fair. Still in the post-keeper's show with Bick? I know, I know, man. I can't shake 'em. I know, every year I talk to Cam the same thing happens. Same excuses are made. Hey, man. I've tried to get my no-Satt clause for a real long time. I know. Him and Bick and I have been attached to the hip, it seems, since day one of these radios-- Me and PLC, just our classes don't kick any. Oh, exactly. All right. We'll get to more of your attacks here, but let's go back to the phone board. 604-280-0650, toll-free, 1-888-275-0650. And let's go to Burnaby, where we have Paul on the line. Paul, thanks for calling in. What do you have for us tonight? Yeah. I just think-- I'm not so looking a little shaky. I think they don't believe in their goalie. I think so. Bob's played well, but he's just-- they're panicking. They're de-collapsing. They're diving all over the net. I just don't think-- I think they need better goal training to win the series. That's the bottom line. Paul's going either way. Obviously, the referee was sucked, but ultimately, if your goalie gives you confidence, the deed will play higher. The rebounds are in control. And guys are panicking and diving and trying to play goal. So I don't know. I think it's time to make a goalie change. I don't think so. Bob can handle the series. Hey, thanks for the phone call. That's Paul on Burnaby, who is not convinced about Shilav's play. Says the Canucks are collapsing too much. I would say this. Whether it's the Smith or Shilav's, the Canucks have been collapsing in front of their goal tenders a lot more. Well, if there's something that line is out there, you're going to collapse. Yeah, exactly. I mean, and honestly, if they don't collapse, they don't take away a couple of back door plays, I don't-- Demko can be as good as he wants. He's not going to be a superman being able to make every single post-to-post play. So you still have to take those plays away. And with how dynamic that line is, I thought the Canucks actually-- you know what? They're in zone defending tonight. They were passive at times, and I saw Bill texting in. For 40 minutes. For 40 minutes. They were actually really good. In the third two, they were passive, but for the most part, there were a lot of-- there were a lot of east-west passes and backdoor plays, and the Canucks took them away. There were a lot of great sticks by Canucks' defensemen and forwards breaking up plays that were going across east-west in the defense zone, even in the third when they were under duress. They did a good job of taking those things away. What caused the Canucks tonight, as much as they weren't good in the third, was key mistakes. We ran through it already, but every single goal that was scored, there was a mistake in there. Now, I know hockey is a game of mistakes, and that's usually how goals oftentimes get scored, but with how the Canucks have generally been a very clean hockey team, all these goals have been plays that Canucks have kind of invited the pressure that led to the goals. And I know last game, Noblock said we didn't really have any breakdowns, and even McDavid said some strange goals. And sometimes we look for like, "Oh, what's the reason this goal went, and who made the mistake?" I thought in game one, the Canucks' goals were all earned. Yeah. They were just good plays, so if you want to say, "Okay, a breakdown didn't happen," I kind of understood what he meant, because the Joshua goals just off a face-off, and the shot goes off the backboards, and then the Lindholm goal, it's like, that's just hard work, creating that opportunity. It just goes off a stick, and it ends up in. And then the Doroff, I think, we talked about that play. Heroic with the net drive. Oh, go under with the chip out. It's just a guy creeping into the zone and smashing one, and then Garland's goal, it's not a breakdown. It's just a goal that's got to try to save that one, right? You kind of go through that, and even tonight, you look at the Canucks' goals, well, it's Pedersen, that's just a well-worked-power play goal. Besser goal come off a face-off, and just a nice tip, and then the Zador one's a bad angle. The Canucks are earning their goals. Yeah. And it's not taking anything away from what the Oilers did tonight. Obviously, the four goals, and they created their opportunities, but a lot of it is like you're looking at this and saying, "The Canucks have a hand in these goals." 100%. 100%. And I think that's part of the frustration here, right? And you know, people are texting in, not agreeing with the caller. How is the goaltending that good tonight? I don't get this guy, man, and others texting in and saying, "The Canucks have been controlling the center of the ice the front of the net all year, beaker from Burnaby." Texting in, and I agree with that. So, I mean, have the Canucks been at times because they don't have Demco a bit more conservative in their own end with how they play at times? Yeah, I mean, sure. Of course, you don't have a Vessner-caliber goaltender, but I thought she lost tonight. It was terrific. I don't think goaltending was a problem at all. I said he was proud of him and mentioned him as being one of the real bright spots for the Canucks in their 4-3 overtime loss. Even late, like, there's a big save on Hyman as he's diving to the top of the crease. So, multiple guys in this scramble on a shot for Metcomb. And Miller makes this great tip away from Metcomb late in the game. Hyman's going back post and looking for @comb driving to the net, and they all crash under the net. There's a Bouchard smash bomb, whatever you want to call it, and she lost, collects that one. She lost, wasn't the issue tonight. I'm curious if maybe Game 3, you do see a switch, but she lost, wasn't the problem. No, he wasn't the problem. Now, do we see maybe in Edmonton, just to get a game? I think we could see that. All right, let's go back to the foam boards. Let's go to Vancouver, where we have George on the line. George, thanks for calling in. What are your thoughts here tonight? You bet. A couple of things. First of all, I'm glad I'm not following Ian. Ian MacIntyre this time. I hope we get to hear him later on to be fascinated. Number 2, I am not that dude from Calgary's dog. Okay, you're not George. You're not that George. I get it. Okay, good. I'm not that George. Well, so I'll say a couple of things. So there is, I don't know if I was watching the same game as some of the callers, but the gold pending was fantastic, and it's not a non-issue. There, however, is one cannot player that's responsible for four of the Euler goals. Ian Cole. And I cannot believe for the life of me why he got dressed today after basically causing three of the Euler goals in game one. He deflected the game winner and night. What a fantastic deflection. Too bad it was an old goal. Get Wilson in there or somebody else. I mean, honestly, I hate to dump on a guy, but they can explain fine. They played well enough to win this game. The mistake that was made was the same mistake that was made three times in game one. So that's my piece. Are we going to hear McIntyre today? It might be tough. We're going a little bit later, we're not going to finish up midnight, but we'll see if it happens. But yeah, thanks to the phone call, George. You better take care. Longer media availabilities. Yeah. Over time game two. And he's got to be deadline. It's not not deadline that way, but it's not like people are working 24 hours either to be able to facilitate his work too. So there are things that go into the best part. No, we have nighttime editor. We have to do. It's a 24 hour editor. Pretty late. We got West Coast editors. Yeah, West Coast. Fantastic. Apparently the light show outside. We're dying to get outside. I know. I know. We're getting texts about it. People are like, hey, sure they lost, but it's the northern lights are on display right now. I got to tell you. One of my dreams in my life is to one day see the northern lights. Like thought of trips to Iceland and Finland at the right time of year. A hundred percent. It's something that's on my bucket list of things to do. Like one day maybe I really wanted to do so. And for those who know, who listen to our shows regularly and stuff, I affectionately or not so affectionately get called space set. Yeah. I don't have to go into it too much. But let's just say that it's something that I would love to see. But you know what? I'd rather be here talking about a playoff game, even a playoff loss. So I'm not going to sit here and bibble on the fact we're not seeing the northern lights. But we see all the text coming in. We do. I mean, I'm acknowledging it, but also I want to sit here and cry about not seeing the northern lights when we're talking about a playoff game here between the Canucks and the Oilers. In the second round, game two, we're going into game three. I know it's frustrating that right now you lost this game and it's a 1-1 series. The Canucks had a chance to go up 2-0. But the beautiful thing about the playoffs, and it's also part of the emotional swings, the highs and the lows and how you bounce back. And I'm really curious to see how the Canucks play in game three. And hey, you come back and you play a great role game in winning. You go up 2-1 in this series in a series that people didn't really give you much of a chance. That's still a really great position to be in. So on Georgia's point there, and look, many people have texted this in and asked to take Ian Cole out. So the only candidate is Noah Julesin, right? Yeah, it's not going to be Frieden. No, right. But Noah Julesin played against Nashville and played 11 minutes. That's the game Myers was sick. I can't imagine. Look, I know Cole's playing his offside and everything like that, and it's really bad luck tonight that it's gone off him and in. I just can't imagine. I don't think so either. I don't think he's just there. I don't think he's just 1-2. I don't think people have texted it. He was horrible tonight. What are you talking about? He made the mistake on the goal, right? He goes off his stick. I didn't think he was terrible tonight. And on top of what Rick Tockett was saying, if you want ice time, there's a reason you're not getting ice time. Cardinal Susie played less than the end goal tonight. Yeah. And if you just take Ian Cole out, just because that goal went in, I... On the night when you're already talking about guys being scared to make plays, you just think you do that. Suddenly everyone's on edge. Yeah. I just think that's the wrong message to Santa. You back your guys. And I know that's a tough reality here, but I don't think Ian Cole's going to line up. Yeah, I'd be surprised as well. So in terms of a line up change, do you expect to see a line up change up front maybe for the game? So Edmonton spent some time on the power play tonight. One player who... The guy who had the least amount of ice time for the connects tonight was Fieldie Giuseppe played 8.51. Lafferty was close at 8.54. And even Niels Hoaglander got 10 minutes and 20 seconds here on the evening. The candidates are those three guys. I'd still say Hoaglander probably plays because you still need a push in your top six. And as much as Hoaglander struggled, I don't know if there's a better offensive player available for it. Lafferty may be the guy, but PDG only played 30 seconds on the PK. If he's not going to be playing on the PK as much... And he's not the fastest guy. Does he play in Game 3? I just don't know what other usage Sam Lafferty has. And tonight was a bit better in the face off draw, but even against Edmonton throughout the season, he got crushed. And it's 8 minutes and 54 seconds. He's not on the PK. He's on the power play though, second unit. Second unit where we're working with. I'm just saying. The sixth penalty killer to me is more valuable than the second unit. I mean, it's one of those two guys. The coach had some stern words for players not getting a lot of ice time. And those are the low minute guys, right? We mentioned those guys, those three players. And if one is going to come out, you'd imagine as one of those three guys. I know people are critical of Mikayev's game. He played 13-57 tonight. But he got zero on Monoton, zero ice time on special teams, right? But those are the two options. And we'll see if one of those guys comes out. Yeah, for me it would be Lafferty and then maybe a change in the top six. With either Lindholm going with Pedersen or Suder going with Pedersen. And I hate to break up the Suder, Miller Besser line. But, you know, for me, like PDG, Miller Besser could be an option. Yeah, that's interesting. Something to consider. And we'll see if the coach makes a switch in terms of the lines heading into game three and Edmonton against Oilers. All right, let's take one more phone call before we hit the break. Let's go to Northland where we have Stuart online. Stuart, we're up against the clock a little bit. But what do you have for us here coming up after a four or three loss for the Canucks in overtime tonight? Good evening, gentlemen. Thank you for taking the call as always. And, you know, I had to sort of take a moment to myself for about a good two hours after the game, just to kind of, you know, cool down, wind down. And it's interesting. You know, I'm a pretty excitable guy. You know, I'm a pretty animated person. But I was dead silent in that overtime during and after the goal because it kind of felt like one of those games where just because of what had happened in the first 60, that it wasn't going to go your way. And I actually, you know, I have to say I haven't been able. I was on my way home. So I only started listening to a post-game show about 20 minutes ago when I called in. So I'm not sure if, you know, everyone else has touched on this. But I'm sorry. If Quinn Hughes has Crosby, Austin Matthews, pretty boy McDavid, and the door is the one that's their face, that is a double minor. I don't care what people say. That is an absolutely atrocious fact. And the ability to not even be able to challenge that or review that either by the coaches, the league, or the ref is a joke. I was beyond myself. I haven't felt that furious since 2011 versus Boston. And I know we haven't been in the playoffs for a while, for like a very meaningful game. But that was insane. And just seeing the calls that were missed and then the Canucks who just, if you looked or dared breathe against the league's golden boy, and you got called like, I'm sorry. That game and Kelly Sutherland, the fact he is even employed by the professional league. That is the NHL, is insane. I'm sorry. But that game was decided by the refs. That aside, because I could go on for two hours and you guys were just coming off because I'm just rambling. But I do worry that at this point in the tenure of see-laws, no fault of this own. I do worry that we have squeezed the juice out of his, you know, collective fruit. I do fear that after these first two games, one win, one loss, eight goals in total. I do worry if now mentally he is somewhat shook compared to where he was in the national series. Again, no fault of his own. The Ian Cole tip, I don't know. I know the previous caller was saying, you know, what is Cole thinking? He's allowed 30 goals on us in the series already. I do wonder if at this point in the playoffs, and I'd love to hear you guys thoughts on this. At this point in the playoffs, do we now need to look at the sheet of players on the Canucks and be like, okay, you're helping us, you're hurting us, you're not lacing up. Because at this point, the fact we're tied going to Edmonton, I'm fine with that. But it's just optically the way that people are looking. It's so ironic, the one game, the first game where PD gets a goal, and we lose, it's great that he got the monkey up his back. But I do think the coaching staff needs to look at who's helping and who is hindering us. Because there are several guys who are, you know, if we had Demko in net, and he was up for the Vesna, so I'll wrap a quick. If we had Demko in net, I'd be fine with the way that we're playing in front. This was the fifth playoff game. You cannot be making those plays. Thanks to the phone call, appreciate it. I got the point, he reiterated a few times on the same thing. Have to hit the break here. Keep your thoughts coming into the text then, box will hit. We'll answer some of the stuff that Stuart was talking about on the other side. Do we see some changes here in the lineup? That's coming up. It's Satyar Shah with Biknazar. Canucks lose 4-3 in overtime. Canucks and others tied at one game apiece. And you are listening to the Canucks Central Post game show presented by the number five in the home of your Canucks Sportsnet 650. Miss any part of Halford and Bruff in the morning? Subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcast and don't miss an episode. This is where you talk Canucks. You're listening to the Canucks Central Post game show on the official home of the Canucks. Sportsnet 650 and the Sportsnet Radio Network. Coleman Lynnholm are getting into it behind the place when pushing and shoving as the Canucks skate off ice. Here's Patterson with speed, left wing to the Euler line. Drops to Miller. Brink wide right point for Lynnholm. Now to Hughes, middle of the ice to Miller. Left circle passes back to our Patterson. It scores! Elias Patterson has his first to the playoffs. And the Canucks score their first power play goal of the series. They take a one-nothing lead in game two. The Canucks act quick and this barn is buzzing. As the power play gets started and has some life. JT Miller from the left hand side. Seam pass. Beautiful pass to Elias Patterson. There's no hesitation on this one. As Skinner is trying to go from right to left and he doesn't budge an inch before Elias Patterson smokes his puck past him. Confidence with his power play again. As Patterson scores to make it one-nothing. Elias Patterson is first goal of the postseason. Hopefully a sign of things to come. Unfortunately, it comes in a Canucks loss. 4-3 in overtime tonight against the Oilers in game two. The series tied a one-game apiece. It's Satyarsha with Biknazar on the Canucks Central Post game show. Presented by the number five orange on SportsNet 650. Keep your thoughts coming into our text then box 65650. And a lot of love for our previous caller Stewart. This one here says best call tonight. It's time for Bettman to go. And others texting in and saying the caller is onto something about what he said with the lineup decisions. Now, Stewart was asking us Bik if the Canucks are going to make a change. We were talking about that a bit before he joined us. And if the mistakes are getting to a point that you have to make a decision to take guys out of the lineup. He was talking about Ian Cole. He was talking about some other players on the team as well. Are we at a point now where they have to recognize liability and make a change or a decision to do something different? That feels rather panicky. Doesn't it? I understand what he's saying. I don't disagree with making adjustments. Just go win one or two games in Edmonton and you're back on level footing. That feels excessive. And this team, while I like the depth that plays against Edmonton's depth, I don't know if they have out of lineup depth. Yeah, that's the thing. And this one we talk about a lot. Different doesn't always mean better. And just because, you know, changing out, say PDG or Lafferty or changing out Cole, does it actually make you better, you know? And in terms of deployment too, I do think the Canucks are somewhat limited as well with their options because they're a good team. They have a lot of solid players, but there is a lack of higher end depth for their star players. Sure. So there is a piecing it together. Like somebody's going to have to carry a load. It's either Patterson playing with Hoglander and McCabe. Guys aren't really going. Or is JT doing that. Or is Lindholm doing that. Like you can't spread everybody around. So there has to kind of be somebody has to elevate their line weight and mate somewhere. And when that's the case, like is, yeah, as we can sit here and say, yeah, you would rather have somebody than McCabe and Hoglander with Patterson. Like, unless you're playing in Lindholm with Patterson, or you're doing something along those lines or do a lot of line and a lot of line tonight, they got crushed in the third period. So it is, you are somewhat limited about what you can do. So if you start getting panicky as well, making too many changes ahead of game three, you start losing the plot a little bit. You start having some doubt about the things you can do. So I wouldn't be surprised if we see some changes. I just don't think we're going to see a number of changes. Like two guys come in, three lines get mixed up. Like I don't think we're going to see drastic changes heading into game three. This is why I offered that PDG Miller Besser idea. Because if they're going to go dry side of McDavid, the edge of having the three centers gets mitigated because now you have to go protect against that line. And if you're, if you're choosing a hard matchup center, or you're choosing Miller, you're choosing Lindholm. Well, you're, I would choose Lindholm. So would I, okay. So now you don't necessarily need suitor there with Miller because you can put PDG in there, still be defensively responsible in scenarios where it's now Lindholm as the preferred number one against McDavid. And then Miller as a secondary one. So I just wonder if you can get more offense out of PDG with Miller away from McDavid and still feel okay with him out there against McDavid if they're the secondary option. And so like that, that to me is an interesting wrinkle they could explore and then it gives Patterson another reliable winger, if it's suitor Makayev and Patterson and could they create some offense. Yeah, he's like playing alongside of him. It's interesting. We'll see if they make some adjustments like that up front in their lineup. Just because if they go Lindholm against McDavid, if it's McDavid and dry side to me, that's an interesting option. One, do you think the coach is going to go away from JT going head to head with McDavid on the right? You don't dictate the matchup on the road anyways. So it is out of your hands to a large degree, especially on face-offs, obviously. But does he go away from trying to because tonight, and it wasn't just the third, like when the lot of line was out there, like JT was not quite as successful this time against McDavid as he was last game. Now, when you go back to the regular season, game one, there's a lot more track record of success against McDavid five on five. So again, it goes back to you. You don't want to overcorrect here because it didn't go your way for about 20 minutes there. But I wonder if the coach is going to be comfortable enough to not chase that matchup on the road. Yeah, I mean, certainly not lost, probably going to try to get it out against Patterson. I want to end tonight. They tried any time Blue Guru was out there. Not like was trying to get McDavid, dry side on high. Now, they were like double shifting as well and getting a lot of shifts out there too. But yeah, they had a lot of ice time here tonight. All right, we'll get to more of your reaction here as the show goes on a little bit. But let's hear from some Canucks players on the post-game show. Peter texted and says, JT Miller made a comment. We made it too easy for them. I think he was pissed that the team was coached to sit back in an ultra-conservative play mode for the whole third. They weren't allowed to forecheck or attack, or others didn't take the game over in the third. The Canucks coaching handcuffed the players and didn't allow them to go after it. That's Peter. Now, we'll get to JT's comments. But the coach post-game said he didn't like the fact the Canucks were playing ultra-conservative. If he didn't like the fact they weren't holding onto pucks there, they were getting rid of the puck. The coach has spoken on many occasions this year, that they actually need to be a bit more aggressive in the third. I don't think it's a case of them being coached to be more conservative in the third. I don't think how the game unfolded in the third period was because of a coaching tactic. I don't think the tactics changed. No, it was kind of his point that plays are there to be made. Keep your heart rate down and skate with the puck. We talked about it soon as the post-game show started, that if they were just cleaner on their execution, with the puck even coming out of their own zone, the flip outs or even at the offensive blue line, they had some rough moments. Yeah, in the final ten, especially after the McDavid goal, did they get tight to the corners? Probably not as much. It's more about that final ten, but for the most part tonight, they had good moments. Yeah, they did. All right, we mentioned J.T. Miller in the texture reference, his comments post-game. Here is J.T. meeting with the media after a 4-3 loss in overtime against Edmonton. All the problem is we just didn't play well in the offensive zone. We made it very easy on them. I talk all the time about our best defenses playing forward. It's the same in the ozone time, and we didn't do that one time today, so that's on us. If we're not going to spend time in the ozone, I mean, good luck at that point right against them. Yeah, it's one of the two shots I think in the third period. You know, you guys have finished the game strong, were you surprised you got that one sided? No, we wouldn't win any battles in the ozone. We missed our chances, not our chances, our chance to get the puck back. You know, we made it very easy on them, so I thought we defended well once we were in there, but you can't play the whole night against them in that zone and expect them not to get something. So, we're going to be better. If there was an opportunity to win this opportunity last year, do you guys get to leave? And then you tell a penalty? I thought they were the better team today. I mean, just speaking on behalf of my matchup, they all played us. So, we got an opportunity to maybe steal a game there, but, you know, they had a lot of time in our end. I don't know about chances, but we just didn't win enough battles in the wall as a group, and we just had to be better in that area, and I think it won't be making their night as easy. Just physical, temperature grows a lot of stuff after whistle. Do you think that that game is better for you guys if you get physical and energy in their face? How does that work for you guys? We're not looking for it. Sometimes that stuff happens. When we load up a line like that, you know, do you need other parts of the team to maybe contribute? Well, it's always -- that doesn't change because they load up a line. You know, like I said, we made it -- you know, they're good players, but we made it easy on them today. We didn't win our battles, and they were able to play the ozone. And once they get it in there, they're very hard to get it off of. So, instead, I made it -- we just have to, as a line, be better. And I think, you know, rocking suits are the same thing. We just didn't win those battles, we normally win. We were one and done all night and started in the diesel and a lot and stayed in the diesel. So, we just got to -- if we play better, we don't have to defend as much. And then maybe they start to cheat, but they didn't have to. What do you make it do you feel shooting? JT, the power play goal. I'm sure a mental group with a clean entry and then a pretty clean finish for PD getting his first. I'm sure you're not happy with the power play at least. Yeah, it was -- it was better. Just executed, right? I mean, I don't know if we had a ton of time, but, you know, it felt like I think it's worth it early in that one. So, it's nice to see one go in, especially for PD. You know, we've been practicing that play a lot, so it's nice to see one go. And I think the other one we had a good look at is Sickbroke. So, it's -- it felt better today, but we just executed it a little better. It's pretty simple. On that goal, it's just about the reps. It's so clean. Your pass will clean through. It's just clean. It's really just the reps. Oh, we've done that play a lot. Yeah. I look for it a lot. I think it's just weather. They do a good job of keeping me outside the docks. And when that happens, it's hard to make those plays, and that one I was able to get on the inside. So, it's nice to see one go. That is JT Miller Postgame. Pretty critical of his home performance against McDavid. Said Edmonton was a better team tonight, and they had to be better than they were to close this one out. And I'm not mincing words, and JT is no, to be honest, even in wins, where he doesn't like his performance or the team's performance. And I don't think he said anything that was incorrect, right? And he said even how they played against McDavid. And they were physical on McDavid again, right? So, suitor gets called for the interference call, and it is interference. Yeah, I think the frustration is so many more egregious things went uncalled, right? But that's an interference. And there are a lot of moments where there were chipping him throughout the game. JT had a rather hilarious, could have been called interference on McDavid. It was at the Oilers' blue line. The puck was, like, well out. And, like, steps over, basically back, like, reverse hip checks McDavid. And McDavid even, like, shoulder check to the ref. He, like, completely takes him out of his own ball. Is that the same one where they scored when they went on that? Because there was also one through the neutral zone where he chipped them, and it's on the echom goal, and it leads the DDD pass. And it's not, it's on the neutral zone, too, right across the Oilers' blue line. He kind of either skates in front of him, but he kind of chips McDavid, who is McDavid. It's gaining speed. He's looking to rock it up the neutral zone, and they chip him. And the puck's are very effective in chipping him tonight. They didn't let him build up a lot of speed through the neutral zone. And that's, like, borderline sometimes, right? Like, it's, sometimes it's interference, sometimes it's not. When we were talking earlier about the officials, I made a comment. It was like, in both ways, some people texted him. They were like, "What are the ones that were against the cocks?" Again, like, this is stuff that's really away from the play. I don't know if the TV camera's picked up. If you're in the building, you maybe would see, like, Joshua had one where he's got, like, the full arm extended. Like, he's trying to make a tackle on football and just grab the guy's horse collar. Like, he grabbed the guy, completely turned him around. Like, there were a couple that could've gone the other way. For sure. And, I mean, and, you know, to that point, there are certain things that you have opportunities to do. Sure. And... No, mind you. And I play offs, and I like a little fight for your space. It's the big stuff that leans toward injuries, like an elbow, like a slew foot, like a stick lift into the cup check there. It's that sort of stuff that, like, there's no place for that. Yeah. When you're going to go to hurt guys, that to me is a big issue. All right, we heard the thoughts of J.T. Miller. Let's hear the thoughts of the Canucks captain. And we may have a special guest to close it up. Let's go to the Canucks captain. Here is Quinn Hughes after a 4-3 overtime loss. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's 1-1. They got a really good team. And, you know, I told you guys the entire year we're not going to get too high or 2-0. And I thought for the most part we played a pretty solid game. And now we just look forward to that. I feel like the physicality really rashes up in this game. That's a good one. Yeah, yes. Yes and no. I mean, obviously there was moments where there was more physical than others. But I think that for the most part, they, you know, they want to play hockey. They got the puck a lot. I mean, sort of... Yeah, because you loaded up their big line and they were trouble. How hard were they to contain today? Yeah, they were very good. I mean, obviously they're going to do that. That's, you know, who they are and that's who they've been. You know, which are our best to contain that. But for the most part, I mean, you know, we had our looks and we had the game where we wanted it. And, you know, sometimes, you know, we'll close that on. Sometimes we won't. Just two shots though in the third. I mean, you had the lead. I mean, last time they said they sat back. Do you feel like maybe you guys didn't tap enough? Yeah, maybe for sure. And there's definitely something maybe with when we're up 3-2. And, I mean, I felt like we still had a little bit of looks, but they obviously pushed hard at the end. And I think they pushed more when it was 3-3, when they had those chances. And that's just their big guys, you know, making plays. And for us, we got to try to limit that and then, you know, do that ourselves. What did you make of the officiating time when was it hard to figure out at times? What was going to do called and not do called? Yeah, I mean, obviously, you know, the officiating, they have, you know, a really hard job. And, you know, usually both sides are going at them, so feel for them. But, I mean, we're lucky that we have, you know, the guys in the league that we do have. And, yeah, I should leave it at that point. Well, you're looking how we're going to try to get the call and I stay well. Yeah, I mean, obviously, I haven't looked at the clip, so I can't comment it. But from my perspective, I got in the face. It's all I know. And it was pretty one side when the McDavid line was on the ice. But then do you guys need to find a way with when they're not on the ice for other guys to maybe get some opportunities? Yeah, it's a really good point. I think, obviously, with them loading up that line, maybe need to capitalize on some chances elsewhere. But, like I said, I thought we had a good game and we'll just, you know, continue to push forward. That is Canucks captain Quinn Hughes, who did not dislike their game tonight. Obviously wants to be better in the third period, but it's now time to welcome in the man. We weren't sure we were going to hear from tonight, but we are seeing him in person. He's a triple threat for a reason. It's the playoffs, baby. Fighting through traffic, getting here on time. He's competing. You watch him on TV, you read him on digital, you're about to hear him on radio. He is Ian McIntyre. I'm glad you guys extended the post game joke for my benefit. Yeah, it worked out. It worked out. Actually, I think technically we're still supposed to be here. Yeah, it's one of those things. Cam told us. He said, you know, you guys go to midnight, but because of how the game ended, you could go to 1230. So we say, well, we'll go by the vibes if people are engaged, listening, and still here. Yeah, yeah. George called him. No, really? We had two Georges called in. Well, one was George, who was a dog barking in the back. And another George called in, who said he's not the dog calling in, obviously, and said he wanted to hear from you. And we said, we may not hear from IMac today. We were being honest about it, but I'm sure George and others are delighted that you are here on supposed to go. It wasn't actually the ages. It wasn't that the son of Sam, the dog barking. Isn't that what I'm trying to remember the movie? I don't know if I can recall this scene. It didn't end well. It didn't end well. It didn't end well, so it never hurt the talking dog. Yeah, it didn't end well tonight for the Canucks. They were good for two periods. They were. Like, this was a good, it was a great playoff game, lots of talking points. And people, depending on which team they're cheering for, are either outraged or relieved about how the officiating went. You know, in the third, the Canucks just stopped playing. And we saw two of the best players in the world just at an absolutely other level than everyone else. But the Canucks didn't cope with that very well. The survival strategy is not to fall into the fetal position and invite them to spend the entire period in the future. That's not going to work. I'm not sure that, you know, when McDavid and Drycidal were playing like they are tonight, it's really hard to beat them. No matter what, like, you could play your A game and not win. But I know that they will lose playing in their own zone as much as they did. And I, in some respects, you can see it. And I think, you know, it's not going to move at all. It's human nature when those guys are coming at you with that kind of frequency and speed. You think, okay, let's retreat and protect the middle. And also, this is what they did very effectively at times in the Nashville series, right? Like, Nashville had stretches where they had an awful lot of the puck. We know there were some games. It connects barely, you know, struggled to register shots on goal, but they were waiting certainly for high quality chances, which they got. But, again, even though Nashville was a very good team, nobody has McDavid and Drycidal. There aren't any two guys like that on any other team on planet Earth because they don't exist. I guess, Nashville, you felt that, yeah, you could let Nashville spend 20 minutes in your zone. You weren't really too worried about it. Yeah, you don't like it, but you weren't afraid of that. In the third period, you turned to me when it was tied 3-3 and said, these guys are going to score the game winning goal. Yeah, and now they got it over now. But during, yeah, you thought it would be a ship. You thought in the third with how that line was going. Like, you felt Edmonton was going to close this game out. It happens to occur in overtime, not in the third period, but it felt inevitable in the third at one point. It did. Well, how are you going to win a game if you're never in the other team zone? Like, yeah, you can hope for maybe you defend. Maybe you don't give up any more goals, but how are you actually going to win if you're trying to play 150 feet from the other teams zone? You know, I think one of the storylines that Target mentioned, which was an interesting quote. You know, there were a lot of storylines to the game because there were. But if Edmonton is loading up on that line, well, what about what about the Lindholm-Garland Joshua line? You know, what about Pedersen, Mackayev and Hoglander? And I thought Pedersen was good again tonight, but not his wingers. And, you know, you have to, at best, again, if somehow you end up even or maybe only down a goal against McDavid, which is a huge ask. And we're not even talking power plays yet. We're just talking about five on five. Power plays, it's a whole other, you know, layer of terror. But even if you're close on McDavid and you don't let him win the game with dry title, you still have to have other guys then, other lines do things. And it just seemed like, you know, the Canucks were under water the final 25 minutes. Whenever McDavid and dry solder were on the ice, but they were maybe still up to their necks in water on the other shifts. And those were the shifts you need to generate something to try to score, obviously. But even just playing some shifts in the offensive zone, you maybe change the momentum. Maybe one shift leads to another. How about how about you start some of the McDavid shifts in the Edmonton zone instead of starting them all in your own zone? So that'll be something to watch because the matchup on Sunday is not going to be any easier for JT. It'll be interesting to see, you know, I thought it was an interesting wrinkle that they tried to go all power on power and then move Patterson onto that line for a lot of the third period, but I also think that was a reflection of how, without any help from Hoglander and McDavid. And you know where I stand on this, like, Pedersen should be the guy driving the line, but at some nights there's only so much he can do. If the other guys can't make a pass to them or win a pocket and give it to them, there's only so much he can do. But I thought that was an interesting wrinkle putting Pedersen with Besser and Miller. They got crushed though. They did, they did, but I wonder, okay, they were obviously trying something because they knew it wasn't working, just rolling out the regular line. Will they figure out something between now and Sunday? Will they try something else? You know, will they try to, there was a couple of shifts they had Lindholm and Miller together. And I think that was primarily for the face-off, although Lindholm had, I thought it was a Canucks best player in game one. I didn't think he was nearly as good tonight and certainly in the face-off circle, he wasn't, he wasn't very good tonight. But I think, you know. Yeah, 41% in the circle tonight. I think it's, it was such a mismatch with that line from Edmonton against whoever the Canucks were putting out. I can't, I can't believe that the coaching staff here with Rick Talkett and Adam Foote and all the smart guys they have in their circle. The round table as Talkett likes to call it, which I love. I can just picture them sitting around on the round table just like having pizza and beer and maybe not the pizza and beer. But anyways, that's how I would coach. I, I, I, I can't believe that they would just think, okay, let's just go to Edmonton and see what happens. We'll throw out the same line. I think they're going to have to come up with something and what that is. I'm not sure because I'm not smart enough to figure that out, but I don't think, you know, based on what we saw in the final 25 minutes, I don't think it's a strategy where you can just say, well, we'll try the same thing on Sunday, maybe we'll do better. Yeah, what's interesting about that is against Nashville is where we were talking about earlier, you had the talent edge, right? So you kind of have the hammer in that scenario. It was like, we can just keep playing this out, playing this out, and eventually we'll get to a stage where we top all them over and game 60, you do it. Now it's like, with those two guys together, this is the first time Rick Talkett's gained, like pushed to a decision because they got the hammer, not just the matchups, but also the talent edge at the high end. And it's like, what would you want to see? Well, it's two guys who went, like, when you talk about a talent edge, we're talking about two players. We're not talking about, you know, huge mismatch team-wise. And I also think, you know, Nashville had talented players, they just didn't have an individual guy who could destroy them, like either of those two guys on the Oilers do. And we all knew coming into this series, whether you were bullish on the Canucks, or you thought they were pocket-lint, like a lot of the countries seem to think. Everybody knew that the wild cards, what Vancouver doesn't have is the same thing that every team who goes against Edmonton doesn't have. And that's McDavid and Drycidal. What would I like to see? Maybe you form a line with Lindholm, and you're trying to play Lindholm against him more than Miller. Maybe if you get Miller and Besser onto one of these other matchups, maybe you can do some real damage offensively, because, you know, they are their best offensive players. And have been all year, and it's a great combination. Maybe you want them away, so that they can play in the offensive zone and not the defensive zone. So we'll see. I mean, the Lindholm-Garland Joshua line has been so good, but they were a little quieter tonight. I thought Garland still had some great chefs and certainly five shots on net when the team only had 19, that was significant. But I think they have to try something different. I'll be surprised if it's just the same matchup in Edmonton, but, you know, maybe, well, not maybe, but part of coaching is to show calmness and belief, and maybe that's the play as well. That, hey, you know, we won 50 games where what are they now five and three in the playoffs against very good teams? Maybe their thing is let's not panic. We all heard what Talkett was saying about the way they treated the puck like a hot potato, which was spot on. The Canucks were terrified of the puck on a few occasions. They actually got it in the third period. Maybe that'll be the play. But for me, I think you really have to think hard about what you might do differently to attack that matchup on Sunday. Many people have texted in about one player. He's been the ire for a lot of fans through two games that he and Cole. We thought it would be a panic move to do anything there with Ian Cole. Take him out of line up. Do you have thoughts on what? Well, I haven't looked at his fancy stats. You can't judge a player because a puck bounces in off him on one game or, you know, he's trying to break up a play and, you know, the angle of his stick clearly is wrong in the puck bounces in like that. You can't judge a guy on that. You'd have to look at the broader picture. They are playing with four lefties, and maybe Julesin certainly gives them continuity of the righties and lefties, but I don't know. I also think Zadorov is playing so well, and part of that is because he has good chemistry with Cole. They've played a lot together, and Zadorov has a little more freedom to go forward, and he's certainly making use of that. I don't, to me, taking Cole out for Julesin, and again, I haven't gone deep into the fancy stats for these two games, but I don't think that's the solution to the problem. Yeah, I'd really like no Julesin's game. It just feels like he stepped in and played 11 minutes. And he's all played one game, and you know, you know, who noblox putting out against Julesin every chance he gets. On the road, if that's the case, if that's the case. Yeah, a guy who's played one playoff game, he's played what, like what, two games over the past month or something, essentially, to go into a spot like that, and to answer your questions about the fancy stats before we get out. Now, according to Natural Statrich, Ian Cole had the worst night in terms of expected goals, shot differential was also very poor on the list. And as a guy who had the second worst night by the fancy stats, Nikita Zadorov, the guys who had a good night, only four guys were in the plus side, fancy stat-wise, Hoaglander, Hughes, Hironic, and Lafferty. And I think we would quibble with Hoaglander and Lafferty on that list. Yeah, I mean, Lafferty didn't get, I mean, neither one had a whole lot of ice time. Yeah, exactly. And to me, it's different with Lafferty when you're assessing what he's doing than Hoaglander because of who he's playing. Sure. You know, Lafferty's court line playing with Teddy Blueger, Hoaglander's playing with Elias Pettersen, and there's a different responsibility there. Yeah, absolutely. Ian, fantastic stuff. Thanks for coming in and making some time for us at the very end of the post-game show. And we look forward to chatting with you. You'll be in Edmonton for game three, and hopefully a better result at the end for the Connects we'll discuss. We shall go for breakfast now. Okay. Not bad idea. Teddy's is over. Actually, is Aurora Borealis, like on your bucket list, or have you seen it? Because it's gone right now. Really? Yeah, it's yeah. I can't wait to get that up. No, no, no. It's on right now. It's incredible. Oh, that's what I want to see. I have seen it a few times in my life when I worked in Kamloops a couple of times. But quickly, and I don't know why I'm going to tell this story. But during the lockout in -- wow. Big is showing me a picture. That's why I said wow. He's saying I was wondering. The '05 lockout, '04 lockout. I was covering junior hockey. I actually got sent by the Vancouver Sun on a road trip. Lethbridge Medicine Hat Calgary. And the last two were back to back, and they didn't really feel like lodging in Medicine Hat post-game. So in the middle of the night, I was driving from Medicine Hat to Calgary. I was the only car on the road. I pulled over, turned off my lights. It was pitch black. I got out and looked up, and there were the northern lights. It's one of the most spectacular things I've ever seen. That's incredible. And perhaps we get a taste of that when we step out of the building here, Ian. And I can't wait to read your latest on sportsnet.ca, and we will chat on Sunday as well. Great stuff as always. Thanks for waiting for me until 12.30 in the morning. 12.35. Yeah, it's a new day. We're on to a new day already. That's the playoffs. And unfortunately, lose this one four-three in overtime tonight. He's bickness are Josh Elliott Wolf producing. I'm Satyar Shah. And a big shout out to Fast Eddie Gregory back at the station tonight. Night working alone too. Didn't have some support, so he's working his butt off. Oh, he pulled in at his better side. Yeah, it's like this text message here. David, the city worker. Petey's helicopter out there. He's got no wings. Same thing with Fast Eddie Gregory. He's got no wings. He's doing all the work himself. All right. Thanks to all of you for listening as well. Always a lot of pleasure on the post-game show. Can't wait to chat with you guys again coming up on Sunday. Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. We'll have the pre-game show coming up 6.30 p.m. Puck drop. We'll be back for the post-game show as well. And hopefully the Canucks with a better result. 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