(upbeat music) We're back on Canucks Central. It's Dan Rietro and Satyarsha. Couple of hours away from game two, kicking off here at Roger's Arena. We're in the Mobile Kintec Studio Kintec, Canada's favorite orthotics provider, powered by thousands of five-star Google reviews. Door feet, what are you waiting for? It is a Friday, so let's get to it. Your questions here for us. It's the mailbag. (upbeat music) Mailbag, get the lovely music going. Josh, how are you? - I'm great, how are you guys? - Oh, we're well. - Yeah, at the rink, excited for game number two. - Jazd. - Yeah, we'll start with this one from Austin and Langley. Arthur Shilov's gets you through the Oilers in convincing fashion. Demko gets healthy. Who was your start? (laughing) - Thatcher Demko. - Okay, can you read that question again? - Okay, so in the theoretical world, Shilov's gets you through this round in like a convincing fashion. - Convincing fashion. - Convincing fashion. But Demko is also healthy. - Right. - Who was your starter? - For game one of the next series? - Yeah. - Probably Shilov's still? - Oh. - Yeah, for game one. - If Demko is healthy. - If Demko is healthy. 'Cause give him more time. - Okay. - Like he's came off the injury and he messed up his knee really, but we don't know if it was his knee. - It's his knee, we don't know exactly what happened. - Yeah. - But we know that he came back as soon as he could. Perhaps a bit earlier than he should have, maybe, right? - Yeah. - And if that happened last time, doesn't that behoove you to use as much time as possible if you can to ensure that it doesn't happen again? - That's fair. - So in this theoretical world, do you then wait for Shilov's to lose a game before you? - I just, like, I can't see a world where Demko's healthy and they don't go to him. - Yeah, I just, I mean. - That world doesn't exist. - Yeah, I can see a game one and then you see kind of how it goes, right? Like I think you bring Demko in as soon as there are any type of signs, right? You're saying convincing fashion, right? Like if you win a series and you're like, wow, she loves what's right. - But yeah, exactly. If he was amazing, then you, I think you probably should go to him as much as you can and give Demko as much as time as possible to get a hundred percent. - So it's like, is convincing like '06 Dwayne Rolison convincing? - Yeah, convincing to me means like really good. - Took over a series. - Yeah. - This one, less theoretical, calm. - When do you think we will see Casey the Smith? - Back in man. - If Shilov's has another tough night, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Smith in game three. - Unless he gets a shot, could it already be written that he's playing game three? - You know, like it feels as though Rick Talkett is making sure that this Smith is ready to go in the very near future. So I like, yeah, I think unless, yeah, there's the world where Shilov's has 42 saves tonight and then you're like, well, we're sticking with this guy. But I don't feel the leashes is necessarily as long. That doesn't mean it's gonna be Casey the Smith. Like, is it a full hot hand scenario right now? I still think Shilov's is the guy they trust a little bit more, but I could see them if Shilov's has another tough night, I would expect them to go to Smith in the next game. - Yeah, I can also see it being a situation where you can use some time for him to reset a bit, work with Ian Clark, have a few days. And I wonder if that's something we see here for game three. Again, unless he's like spectacular that they turn into Smith. But the thing is, if you do win tonight though, and you're up to nothing on the series, maybe that changes, maybe how you're leading for game three. - I thought it was gonna be more of a like Boston type of situation where they just went between the two. All Mark and Swamin. - I think that Boston gave up on there. - Even Boston is just like, you know what? This Jeremy Swamin guy's really good. So we're just gonna keep going to him. And the Canucks have done the same. But I wonder if they use more of a tandem mentality moving forward. - Next one from Taj, and we got a lot of this regarding tonight's referee. - I love it. Kelly Sutherland, there's the bigger opponent tonight, the Oilers or Kelly Sutherland? - The easy answer is Kelly Sutherland, but it's still Conor McDavid, and perhaps Leon Drey's title if he does play, right? Those are still your biggest opponents for the game here. But it's one of those things where if you've been a Canucks fan for decades, you've seen Kelly Sutherland have some really questionable moments against your team at some of the biggest stages as well. So the trauma is real. You know what I mean? I think that PTSD is real. There's a real reason why fans here are skeptical of Kelly Sutherland and I totally understand it. How he's going to call the game. I don't know, honestly, I don't know what to expect. I'm hopeful that he just calls us straight. For those days, guess what the big topic of conversation is going to be tomorrow? - Kelly Sutherland. - Yeah, a massive one, right? And I'm hoping he's an afterthought tonight, not that he's gonna play a main character role in this game. - So, I mean, there's a lot of ways a referee can impact the game, but we did only see one penalty call against the Canucks the other night. It almost feels like no matter who the guy is and stripes for game two, there's going to be a few more calls going the Oilers way. - Perhaps, but at the same time, I thought talking made a good point. You said, hey, last series against Nashville, there were games that we only had one or two power plays and we didn't get more the next game. - Yeah. - And it doesn't work that way necessarily. It shouldn't work that way. It should be a call, like every game should get called the way it's seen legitimately. You shouldn't have anything carrying over from the previous game 'cause it hadn't enough calls were made. I know it's human nature though, with officials and these things can happen. Humans are biased, the biased situations happen, right? I think the greater question people have had to about Sutherland is, should it even be allowed to referee Canucks games? I don't think you can have officials officiate for you and then you not be able to use them in certain teams. - Yeah. - I just don't think that's a viable way of running your operation. If you're a referee is incapable of officiating a game cleanly against a certain team or teams, then you shouldn't be in the league. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? And I think that's the way I use it. - You're supposed to not have biases. - No, they're human, but like-- - But at the same time-- - In the moment, when you put on the referee jersey, you have to be as objective as you possibly get. - Yeah, and it hasn't always felt that way with something. - Right, now if you show signs of bias repeatedly-- - Yeah. - And then yeah, I think that's grounds of not having an official be an official. You know what I mean? Like that thing, that's your responsibility. It's a tough job, but it's a tough job being a good player in the National Hockey League. It's a tough job being a good coach in the National Hockey League. The same expectations as standards should be expected of officials. - I don't know why more coaches haven't used this like, talket mentality of just like, I'm gonna butter up the referees every chance I get. - Yeah, but these guys are the best. They have communicated so well all the time. - But at the same time, is it a working strategy? The Canucks aren't getting a ton of power play calls. They got three last game. They got three times as many as they have to take. - But they only got one penalty call against. And hey, at least for this series, playing more at five on five, benefits Vancouver. So that's good, but personally, I was always more of a keeper seller than I, anyway, so. (laughing) - What about Donald? - No, keeper. - No, keeper. - 24, great show. - Well, it was a popular show. - It was a show, for sure. - Back of the days we used to watch network television. - Yeah. - Basketball Phil, should the Canucks be worried that a team might hire Adam Foote as their head coach, given the remarkable job he has done coaching the Canucks defense? - I mean, the thing with Adam Foote's, he doesn't have a ton of experience coaching. I mean, he has some, but you're not talking about this long resume. I think we're a ways away still from Adam Foote getting a head coaching job. I guess I could be surprised. We've seen guys like Marty St. Louis and whatnot get jobs with minimal experience, too. Like it's happened. - The thing is like the way the league is going through guys right now. - Yeah, yeah. - It's at a pretty remarkable rate. Even if it were to be the case, I don't, like you can't be worried about that. You know, like if you're running a successful organization, guys are gonna get plucked from you. Whether that's your assistant coaches, your assistant GMs. I mean, we already saw Derek Clancy get poached by the Leafs last year. You know, so things are going to happen if you are doing good things. Guys are gonna get poached. Guys, girls, people are going to get poached from your organization when things are going well for you. - Yeah, it also feels like relatively rare for an assistant coach to get poached. You know what I mean? Like I always feel like they have to go back to head coaching for a little bit before they get another chance at head coaching or the first chance at head coaching. - Yeah, you know, I got, Carberry was one last year that got poached by Washington. - Yeah. So it does happen, but you're right. Yeah, it doesn't always happen that way. - It's not like the NFL where it's like coordinators are always going to other. But it's also like a completely different setup. Quinn, do you think we see any facily pot coals in this series? - Ooh, do I think we see him in this series? - There's gotta be an injury. - Yeah. - Tockets enjoyed like... - And he was even talking about Neil Zoma on the other day too. - Yeah, he was. - About how he's been staying righty. - Just trying to remind everybody that Neil Zoma exists. - Yeah. - I may have forgotten the time. - Neil Zoma. (laughing) - He's like, am I here? - I'm taking these pregame skates, man. I don't know what's going up. - It just feels like Tockets really comfortable with his lineup right now. So like unless there's an injury, is he changing it? If there's a forward injury, I don't think it's a guarantee that Omon is the guy that comes in. I think it could be pot coals and that ends up being that player. Like a filthy Giuseppe gets hurt. It could very well be pot coals and that draws into the lineup ahead of Neil's Omon. But we'd have to see how it would happen. I just, I don't know. They've had their opportunities. Pot coals didn't exactly go and tear it up in the HL playoffs while he was down there either. So, unless there's an injury, I don't know if we see it happen. - Yeah, let's say the likelihood is 20%. It also feels like they haven't made many changes just within the lineup either. Like the only one I can think of is Lafferty started with Pedersen and then the calf. - Yeah. - Got put back there but even the lines like haven't changed that much. - Okay, let's just hear, here's a question I'm throwing in here, mid-mail bag. If a player is deserving of coming out, who is most deserving? - Coming out? - Yeah. Like if you are going to make a switch and put somebody in. - Sad just wants to dunk this one home. - No, I don't. (laughing) - I know. - I really don't. (laughing) - No, I really don't. I mean, I was kind of leading that way but I wasn't going to dunk on him. What I was saying, like, so PDG's the obvious one, right? Like it's like the guy, but he plays on the PK, the PK has been really good. The fourth line's been solid, right? They bring physicality, good forechecking, good defensively, like that unit's working. Like they're doing their job. Like what else do you want from that? - Yeah. - PDG's played a part in it, right? If Neil's Hoglander doesn't produce soon or it doesn't start working, is he a guy that you start looking at and say does he move down the line up perhaps? Or another chance? But who are you looking to take out of the line up? Like PDG's the obvious one. If you look at it from the coach's perspective though, if they look at it and say, hey, we're not getting what we want. This is what we need. - Yep. Well, in a series where puck management is so, so important against the Oilers, like that's where I think Neil's Hoglander had some issues in game one, has had some issues in the past, has really had a tough go in these playoffs. So I think you're right in alluding to this that it's not a slam dunk that it would be filthy, Giuseppe, I think, Neil's Hoglander could be on that, or could be in that conversation as well. - What, the thing is, I think especially, like he's one of the guys that can score. Right now, Mikayev can score. He had at least 20.4 goals on the season. Like, he's one of the guys that can score for you. So you kind of caught in the catch 22 where there's no way he was obviously better than him. But at the same time, how do you get more out of him? And at some point, do they feel like sitting him is going to inspire him to kind of get back to doing what he did in the regular season? - Next one is from Crashes Over Blamey. Would you rather see Dallas, I'm looking way ahead here, would you rather see Dallas or Colorado against the Canucks than the conference final? - How many games do the Canucks want in this series? - I think four, essentially. - Is it not over in three? Is he gonna have two more? - Right. - I feel uncomfortable answering this question. - It's just a question. I'm not worried about the superstition. Somebody texted and it's like, you guys already jinxed the Canucks by saying the S word, we're alluding to like unless she lobs gets a shutout. - Oh, right. - You see the Smith anyways. I don't believe in any of the best sort of stuff. Obviously, that's not-- - That's not superstitious. - These are only a little stiches. - Not even, really. - Not even. - It's very against any stiches. - And he's just honest. - Anti-stiches this. But no, I'd say Dallas, for sure. I think the Canucks match up better against Dallas and they match up against Colorado. I don't think there was any question. - Yeah. They lost every game against Colorado. That doesn't mean everything, just like I said, doesn't mean a ton that the Canucks beat the Oilers in every single regular season meeting this year, but just from a stylistic perspective, Colorado's speed is something that Vancouver struggles with. - And also how fast they are from their back end too. - Yeah. - So when you put those things together, Dallas is just a better matchup for the Vancouver Canucks. - You do get home ice, if it's Colorado. - Yes. And the other thing against Colorado is you get whatever goaltender they have, which is not very impressive. - Your gift, right? Now, obviously to your point, it's really getting ahead of yourself because first, you gotta-- - Yeah, he admits in before you even get to that point. - They would be the underdog in either-- - It's situation, situation. - But I think they have a chance against either team if they get there too. - Yeah. - You're not favorites. No, of course, right? It would be difficult. Would I predict the Canucks would win? I'm not sure, but they have a chance. - Yeah. I mean, I consider both of those teams to be more formidable than Edmonton as well. - Yeah, yeah. I don't know if everybody agrees with me on that, but that's how I viewed it coming into this series and it's how I viewed it coming into the playoffs. Next one from Goodness Interruptis. Has Nikita's door off, yeah, it's good man. Has the door off become the new Philip Hironic? Who is the more important-- - Oof. I mean, if the door off can do what he's doing in the postseason consistently, I think, obviously. - Can he do that for 82 guests? - He can't, and I think we had a good discussion about that yesterday. - I guess the same thing with, like, Myers too, right? Like, we always seem to like what Myers brings in the playoffs, or at least we did when he was in the bubble and now again, but it's hard to do that. In that, like, in that body frame to play like this, to play as physical as he is for 82 games, you gotta manage your body over an 82 game season. - Let me put it this way. And I'm more comfortable paying as a door off, say, four and a half million with term than I am paying Hironic seven plus million on term. - Okay. - The other part of all this is you get assets back for Hironic if you move them. - Yeah, if you get to that point. - Yeah. - But then you go into next year with Noah Julesen as your only right shot defenseman? - That's fine. - I think, like we talked about yesterday, if the Canucks, I don't know what, maybe we talked about this off here, but I think if the Canucks were to make that type of move, they'd do it knowing that they can either trade for another right-hand defenseman, or that they would sign another right-hand defenseman in the free agent market. I don't think they'd be doing that without having some contingency. - Next one comes from NW, an off-season question. If Mitch Marner really is available, would you trade for him? And if you did, what would be a realistic trade proposal the Canucks could offer? So would you trade for Marner and what would an offer look like? - I can't believe that there's a 100-plus point player in the league that I would absolutely not touch with a 10-foot pole. But Mitch Marner is that guy. If it were a different market, if I'm in Carolina, maybe I have a different feel on this. I don't think Mitch Marner is made for a Canadian market. I think he's proven that over time in Toronto. I think it would not work in a city like Vancouver. He is just, it does not work. And he can give you all the points he can during the regular season, but come play off time. I've seen this story too many times. At this point, he is who I think he is. And so prove it somewhere else. I don't wanna deal with that. - Yeah, to me, my biggest question is, what are the salary expectations for a guy already making almost 11 million? - 11 and a half? - 11 and a half? - Yeah. - 12? - And I'm not sure if I'm spending big money, and the Canucks can spend money on one winger on this team, I'm not even sure they can spend it on a guy. And that's not the guy I'd be paying that much money to anywhere. I'm not against Marner, I think, and given the situation you're in, but given the Canucks cap structure, and Paterson's big deal kicking in next season, that's not the guy I'm paying that amount of money to. - Well, think about Marner, like if you're Marner and his agent, you have all these points that you scored, you're already worth 11 million dollars. - When his deal expires, which is next summer, the cap is expected to be over 90 million dollars. - Yeah. - Like 91, 92-ish million, that's right now the current projections. I mean, he's gonna want a really big payday. So 12 million is probably what you're looking at to resign Mitch Marner, and that's just not something I have the appetite for. - And from like a Canucks point of view, too, you look at it and you're like, "Hey, you could go hard after Jake cancel," and maybe overpay a little bit, but it still wouldn't be the price that Marner would be, and you also wouldn't have to give up assets together. - Yeah, and he scores in the playoffs. - Yeah, and he's good. Next one from Max. Would this Canucks team beat the 2011 Canucks team? - In a seven game series? - In a seven game series? No. No. No, I don't think so. - That 2011 Canucks team was a juggernaut. - Yeah, I mean, that team was insane. It was easily the best team in the National Hockey League, easily. - They would have a chance. I know they weren't. They didn't end up winning the Stanley Cup, but there's a few teams that actually won the Cup that I would take the 2011 team. Like, if you were to look at every Cup team from the salary cap era, there would be certain champions that I would say, "Yep, I'd take the 2011 Canucks over that team in a seven game series." - Yeah, I mean, in a completely fantasy world, if that team in the last Stanley Cup finals played against the last 10 Stanley Cup finalists, they probably win a couple. - Yeah, right. - So it's like, that's how good that team was. Now, that team was also at its peak. Like, you talked about the Cidines and their absolute prime winning hard trophies, right? Yeah. Kessler at his absolute prime, his best season he's had, winning a selfie trophy, the long one is prime, playing some of the best cock hockey he's played. Corey Schneider won the best goal in the league. He's the backup to him, the depth on their blue line. This team's really good. Maybe the peak of this core, one day could have a team that's better than 2011, but that team's not winning against these guys in seven games. I mean, anything can happen in a seven game series. - Yeah. - But I'd say the 2011 team has the edge. - Mm-hmm. Last one won with this from Woodrow. Who would be the best Canucks current or former to be... Special. (sighs) Is it? I feel like the long ago would be a good answer, just because it's like, he can take it. - Yeah. - Wouldn't be weird, wouldn't have like a weird personal moment. Like, come Brady. - Yeah, and I think with the roast, it has to be somebody who's famous enough and has a catalog of rich history for you to be able to dig into a lot of stuff, right? - So Kyle, well, it doesn't work? - No, it doesn't. Like, it would have to be a long old game. - It'd be the city, you know? - I think it's in the city. - That's what the Tom Brady roast was anyway. - Yeah, and the city's were way too boring. - Yeah. - Right? - Brray, maybe. - Brray would be interesting. - That'd be a good one, because, you know, how much stuff was going on. That would be a good one. - Jews? - Biaxa? - Yeah, I feel like there isn't, it's not controversial enough. I think it needs to be enough. - He's like, now he's a big enough star that he's been on TV for a while. - He would be at the roast, but he wouldn't be the subject. - Yeah, he'd be the, like he'd be the roast master, whatever it's called, right? - Yeah. - The roast master. - The roast master. - The longest was a good shout. - I'd say the two would be the longest. - What about a current connot then? - J.T. Miller? - Yeah, probably J.T. - Probably J.T. Connor Garland? - Oh yeah, I mean, the same jokes every time. - It's like Kevin Hardy to be always talking about Jews. - Jews, what would you even joke about with Jews? - Yeah. - The sad face. - Those are the same jokes. - Sad face. - The Edmonton media has already carved that corner, so it's like. - But on the roast, though, like just awful. It was terrible. - Yeah. - I was making the same jokes over and over and over again. Thank you for your deflate gate jokes. Cool. Didn't think of that one myself. Anyways. All right. There's your questions for us. We'll get some mailbag overflow for those that we're texting in with questions to 650, 650 on the Dunbar Lumber text message inbox. We're going to head down to the con course. We're in section 111, I believe. We still have some goodies to give away while they do survive because they do go pretty quickly when we are down on the con course. So check us out in section 111. If we're in break, we might be able to say, "Hi, otherwise you can stop by, take a selfie," while we're working as well. It's Dan Reicho and Satty R. Shaw. You are listening to "Konok Central."
