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Episode 1349 - Is It Too Late To Fix America?

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13 May 2024
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Hosts of the Cancelled Weekly Podcast -- comedian Gerard Michaels and ex-adult film star Candice Horbacz -- join the show to discuss if there is any saving America at this point, the stakes of the 2024 election, how Occupy Wall Street started all the division in the country we have today, and why they might let the economy crash if Trump wins.


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*Intro* Welcome to Drinking Bros. presented by GhostBed.com! Sit back, relax, and grab a fucking drink! Yeah, welcome to Drinking Bros. Kids! These Sunday night shows that we record on Fridays always gets loose. Cheers! Gerard is in the house, Candice is in the house, from cancelled weekly. Gerard vs. Evil? Who's the evil? The evil are the elites, my friend, the elite. That's steel from the working class man every day, and they can, they, they can hive behind closed doors to make Twinkies three times expensive as they should. They sure are, dude, because America fucking sucks now. Wait, I'm sorry, Twinkies are up? Twinkies are up, Twinkies are up almost 5x from where they were. Bob, look into that. Yeah, because that's just on American. I'm trying to get fucking diabetes over here. This isn't a goddamn country in here. Right now, do you see the thing that was breaking right before this? They're trying to hand out IDs to illegal immigrants, and it's a test now in four different cities before the election here, so the Biden administration wants to give these out. And what they're saying is this will help process illegals faster. Oh, yeah. Or, I mean, just, just weird timing, hear me out on this one, or they might be able to use them to fucking vote. Yeah, yeah, or we get this hand them alive grenade with the pen pulled. Ah, be great, and just like solve a problem right quick, by the way, no, no, that does not solve the problem, because if they're dead, they're still voting Democrats. I guess I get to hand out IDs nuts to these assholes as well. Yeah, pull up this. It's in New York post today. Well, let's look for Twinkies. We know that it's up, dude. You're not buying them. So like, we already know dude. Oh, yeah, I don't eat them. Look at the guy who just said it. Like, trust him. Believe in him. Is he? Are you the science needs to? Are you Dr. Fauci, a fucking Twinkies? Yeah, the science. I believe the science of absolutely all junk food. I like that. Only I'm actually good at my job. I do the work. Yeah, you gotta do the work guys. You have to. You gotta put in the work today. But yeah, the New York post ran this right before we went on air. Now, the test cities are going to be Houston, which fine, you know, Texas is a red state. No, barely you're you're throwing them in there. And you're just like, I will give you Houston. And then Atlanta is the next one. Now there's a trial that got pushed down there. And we had a lot of issues with who voted, why they voted and all this other shit down in Atlanta. Man, that's gonna be the swing city. Well, I think they, I think they just were able to prove that those counties, Duval County and another one, they were in fact rigged, right? Them that just come out. There was a couple of them. That's the lawsuits were overturned. It was for Warnock in the runoff where they were able to prove like definitively that that there was the same the same handwriting. He's still in there. But it was it was something with the mail in ballots and they had like the same handwriting on like thousands of. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, that's that's been going on for a while. But they're not looking into that they won't they refuse to look into that. What are the other two cities there? And Lana was the one that got me where I was like, motherfucker, that's exactly how George is going to turn. I see two potential locations, which is Houston and Atlanta. Okay, so they said four, but the other two cities are still unnamed. Again, this article literally just drops here. And immediately Republicans are trying to fight it's what happens with these programs, these pilot was there like a reparations program in Oakland and now that like the city's just dead, like what like what happens with these pilot programs that they just do them and then there's no follow up ever or yeah, well, it's got to be passed by the state and the state's not going to pass reparations. So like once they look at the actual numbers of it, they're they never end up doing it. Now this one they would do because this is going to affect potentially the outcome of an election. So like both sides are going to fight two. I'm so I still don't understand what's happening here. So states are responsible for issuing IDs. They're also responsible for determining how a vote happens in their state. Federal government doesn't control that unless there's a violation of the civil rights act or something like that, typically, right? Yeah. Now they can have federal standards for identification that you need for example, the all the updates to your ID that have been happening since 2017 that just haven't happened. Remember those remember real idea? Remember how fun that was going to be? Yeah. Yeah. It's still like eight years later. Hasn't happened. So it's just been June June of next year. Oh yeah. They've been saying that for fucking eight years. Yeah. Like the original cut off with a I believe June of 2017. That was the original cut off. Correct. And it's here we are. Right. So I don't know what if any jurisdiction the federal government has in this regard to issue IDs to people that are state IDs. That's not your fucking jurisdiction. That's what they want to do. I don't understand Bob. Can you read this article and explain it because it doesn't make any sense. Yeah. Pop it up there. Well, this kind of goes back to what Cuomo just said. He was on that podcast two days ago, the the older Cuomo, not Fredo, Michael Corleone Cuomo, Chris, the toucher with the nipple rings. No, no, Chris, not Chris, the governor, the dude from CNN, or at least studs, the governor, right? And he basically said he's like, I made these mandates, but it was voluntary because I had no power. I had no jurisdiction. I had no power to enforce what I was saying. And it's like, you're a fucking governor. So you just said this thing and was like, let's see what the people do. Like this is exactly what Dan's talking about. So basically now he didn't doing that, these people doing that. And now them saying that if you're a person in these states, like you should just disregard everything they say, right? Sure. Yeah. Why would you ever listen anything they say if now they turn around and say, well, I was just testing the waters to see if people would do it. And they did it. Well, you never had to. It was it was voluntary. You know, no, no, don't come for me. Okay. Okay. Got it. All right. Yeah. So what they want to roll out is a secure docket card program this summer. It's replacing paper. Yes. So we replace paper, but it looks like a real ID here as you can see on screen. Oh, I see. So it would be the one. I mean, it's printed. That's a bat. That's a passport background. No, you see it. And it's ice. So there it this is this is just for a legal immigrants. Yes. It is for legal. It is to process illegal immigrants and say this summer would see roughly 10,000 ID cards distributed to migrants. Are we getting robbed right now? What's going on? We are. Yeah. Welcome to the show. I want to call this robbery I've ever seen. That's a that's one of our reps from favorite. Yeah, I know. Yeah, that piece of shit. Are you going to party this weekend with hard a F on a boat? That's my guess. Is that what it is? What are you supposed to call people that are here illegally? Because there was this kid that just got suspended and I think he's suing the high school because he used the word illegal immigrant criminals criminals. Yeah, I think to give it this way. You own a home, right? Yeah. And you live in it? Yeah. Your family does as well? Yeah. Right. So let's say somebody wants to come over and hammer party with it. If Gerard in the same way that in Hesh did one time, RIP, obviously, yeah, walked in your through your front door and sat down. He says, you know what, I live here on your couch now. Sorry that that's an inconvenience to you, but also I have a few demands. Yeah. That's essentially what's happening in America right now. Give me 50 grand or I'll start stealing. They're criminal shitbags. But how do you get in trouble for saying that they're illegal? Well, that's a school they can do whatever the fuck. Yeah, no, but anybody can sue for anything. Yeah. I mean, before the show, I was on a goddamn call with a lawyer. Do you guys follow Mike Benz at all? No. Mike Benz? No. It's fantastic. He's really great. And he, you want to talk about like weaponized autism? This guy more than anybody has drilled down to like, who are the NGOs? Who's behind the NGOs? Where's the money come from? And it all kind of circles the drain. And at the end of it, it's this weird thing where the UN wants this global government and they're going to use NATO as the muscle to do it. And that's where a lot of this stuff is coming. This is all foreign money, but it's foreign money with our elites behind it with a wink and a nod, our CIA, our three letter agencies that are helping these guys. So they're coordinating it off, off nation. And then they're knowing they know where our weak spots are because they're the ones that are supposed to be protecting us. Well, it certainly what it feels like everything we have is getting bought out by other countries. Yeah. I don't know. Sports, all of our shits. I'm not sure how NATO is going to be a factor to be honest, because NATO is 90% United States military. Well, yeah, what the thing is, is that he thinks that it's, you know, the, the calls coming from in the house type of a deal. Okay. Well, we can do that too, bud. Well, Mike, that's he can explain it way. No, sure. I'm certainly, certainly there's probably something that what he's saying. I'll, what my position is, is like, let's fucking do this. You know what I mean? I've been bored for 14 years. Yeah. May I offer a solution before we get to the fun part? Okay. Citizen debt strike. What's that? Everybody get together. Look, look at what Katrina, look at what two cities in America. Is that a girl that gave you that jacket? Yes. This is actually, this is a, this was her underwear. That's a very Katrina jacket with a girl with a girl. So you, you look at what happened when New Orleans and you look at Houston, one, one hurricane. Nobody paid their mortgage and then they wouldn't pay out on life insurance, right? They wouldn't pay out on homeowners insurance. They wouldn't pay on life insurance. Two cities became insolvent for 90 days and it crashed the global economy. Crashed it. These people, modern monetary theory, they're so fucking greedy. Their Achilles heel is they are so greedy. They are spending money from 10 years out, 20 years out. If we just stopped paying back and people say, "Stop paying your taxes." No, you can go to jail for not paying your taxes. It's impossible not to pay taxes. Every time you swipe your car, there's sales tax. Every time you pay something, there's a tax, there's a tax to get it in the country, there's a tax. You can't avoid paying taxes. But what you can do, there's no debt or prison in America. You can just stop paying. Everybody, 10 million people get together and say, "I'm not going to work and earning and I'm not paying anymore. I'm not paying back any of my debts." And within 90 days, watch what happens. This is what the elites do. They declare bankruptcy and it's a credit activity. So what happens when they shut off your power, water, everything else? That's a great question. I think you prepare and you have generators and you have gas and you have, if it were me and you guys are the leaders, I'm not the leader here. I'm just the fucking guy wearing a jacket. You have people take out as much fucking debt as possible. You take all that debt, you put it into a fucking digital currency, you use that digital currency to buy the shit from each other and you leave the elite, the fuck out of it. The problem is, we've had this conversation a million times on the show. The problem is this, you'll never get anybody on board because nobody wants to be inconvenienced. We were this close with Occupy Wall Street. We were this close. No. We were this close and they just didn't have a North Star. They pulled in one weekend, $64 billion out of Bank of America and Crash Bank of America's game planned for about two years. Yeah. What was their mistake? The mistake was it was centralized authority. Yeah. Right. Ships have captains. Right. Decentralization is good until it's time to get shit done, frankly. And I think that's what our biggest issue is and that's what all these countries, all these fucking shit-hole countries we talk about with Israel and fucking Hamas and Middle East and everything else, they don't have good leadership. Like even Iraq, you know, shit, you go over there, you fuck it all up. Great, you're going to be a democracy now. Now it's up to you guys. They couldn't figure it the fuck out. It's a shit-hole. I mean, that's kind of what we did in Iraq was kind of like, let me think of a good metaphor here. It'd be like if there were two brothers and one of them had Down Syndrome, right? And you need them to drive to the airport to pick you up and you kill the dumb or you kill the non-retarded brother. Yeah. And he's got to drive. And now you've got to retard on the way to pick you up because all the people that took over in the political scene in Iraq were disaffected. They were people that fled in the late 80s, early 90s. They had no idea what the politics of Iraq were. And nobody there liked them either because they fucking left like cowards. And that's why that place will never. I mean, we should have turned that place into a fucking parking lot. I don't know what glasses go on for these days, but we definitely could have turned the profit. All of the Middle East you could have done all of that with years and years and years ago. But this is the problem. It all sounds great to talk about. There is no organization out the end of it. And we can't even get behind one goddamn thing in our own states or locally, let alone 330 fucking million people. Now we need an alien invasion, right? We need one badly. So if you're out there, aliens. Well, they'll nip it in the butt, right? They nip it in the butt. I mean, you'd look at the FBI files, what they tried to do with like Martin Luther King Jr., like, you know, they tried to get him to kill himself, you know, and well, they eventually killed him in the end because they were like, if you read the files, it's nuts. They were gaslighting this guy into trying to kill himself. Like, they planted like microphones in his rooms and they had like voices and shit like that speaking. He thought it was ghosts and like, it was them. Like, they thought they tried to make him feel like he was crazy. But it's the same with you. So let's say you led this revolution, right? It was the Gerard revolution. And we were all wearing fucking leopard. And that's our team colors right here. And it was like, all right, we're on Team Gerard, we're on this fucking jackets. And, and then we're all behind you. They would take you out. Yeah. Yeah. You wouldn't last. Yeah. And you know, I'd be the easiest guy to take out too. There would just be an FBI guy like, Hey, buddy, you want a cookie? It's totally not poison. I'd be like, Okay, FBI guy. Yeah, only this once. But that that that's it. And I think that's the biggest problem with all of this shit is there is no organization. You're kind of making it through your day to day life. Candice, you got kids. Yes. Anything that would inconvenience you and your children are from taking them to school throughout the other day. If somebody's just like, Hey, just give us $18 for this. Okay, you're going to get your kids to school today. You'd be like, all right. Yeah. And even with the generators too. I mean, we have a pretty big one. And it's like three days. Like truly, it's like three days. What are you going to do? Like you have to be totally off grid. And most of you will don't have the capacity to do that. No, no, what you're describing, though, is is a panopticon dystopia, man. Like they've made the prison too comfortable. Yeah. So the prison is so comfortable on purpose. Yeah. That you just it's just not worth it to leave it. But it's still a prison. It's right now. Yeah. I mean, look, if you look at like debt and everything we're paying for inflation, all this other shit, the new numbers came out for illegal immigration today, Dan, which we're fucking mind altering. We're all just letting it happen. Well, yeah, of course. Right. So it's not like left or right. Everyone is saying at the top that this is okay. So do you think it's like a militant operation? That's why they're having our population collapse. So they're trying to do that because no one's having babies anymore. I lean towards what Gerard is saying with the elites, because it's Republican and Democrat voting for this fucking bullshit here. And it's a select number of them. And you can pull up the votes and the totals for let's say the funding for Ukraine or Israel or Taiwan and all that other shit. You're like, man, this none of this benefits our country whatsoever in this. It's not only time for a new government, I think, but it's also a time for something else that stands next to the Constitution that's like, it's just called America First. It's just check the boxes of like, where's our money going? It's almost happening in our borders. Where's our jobs going? All this other shit. And if it's not America First, last, if we get out of debt, what do we, 33 trillion in debt? 34. Great. So one trillion every 90 days now. So if we make it out of that, let's say we're a trillion up on the books, finally, we want to send some money and everybody agrees that we're going to send it to help some tiny shit country like Ukraine. Great. But otherwise, that's one option. The other option is to start colonializing again, like become imperial again. I'm not kidding. No, no, like, yeah, yeah. So like, so the world worked better when we had two superpowers that were hegemonic, right? So Russia controlling communist areas in the United States control. And you could take that even farther back, further back rather to the Monroe Doctrine, where the United States had a non-interventionalist policy with regard to Europe and Asia. But we did intervene in North Central and South America all the time. We were the North, we were the American hegemon essentially, right? Now, think about the downstream effects of that. We have big problems geopolitically in the Central Africa area where Russia and China have taken over the cobalt and lithium mines. We were completely boxed out of that right now. As a matter of fact, there's a thousand U.S. troops stuck on a basin today and right now they have nowhere to go. Yeah. They're just sitting there with a thumb with their butt. Matt Gates has been talking about it. Niger. Niger, yeah. Where? Niger, yeah. Where is that? I couldn't hear it. Could you pronounce it one more time and potentially spell it? Niger, I think is how you say it. Yeah, okay. I just make a sure. At any rate. I just found out it was Niger a week ago. If you, if you, if you, if you course correct back to, let's say, 1895, right, in our policy back then, what we would be doing instead is setting up MOUs memory, memorandums of understanding with chili and Peru and Argentina and so on to mine, their cobalt and their lithium. And it would have so many additional downstream effects such as building economies and jobs there. So these motherfuckers will stop coming to our country with their hands out. This is just talking to me about the invisible hand the other day. Yeah. I mean, this is, these are, there are reasonable solutions of this that are much easier than the dumb shit we're doing right now. So I don't, like Hanlon's razor says, don't apply MOUs when incompetence will suffice. And I do agree with that most of the time. This seems like it's more targeted than simple, uh, uh, incompetence, frankly. So, but there, these, these are solvable issues, right? We, and it may, maybe it takes 15. Well, everything's solvable. How did you just beat me to it? Everything's solvable. It's I don't, I don't know that everything is, I don't think the Muslim problem is solvable. And the problem with Muslims is that they are incompatible with Western civilization, at least in the way that most Muslims globally practice Islam. That is completely incompatible with what we do because of the rest of nature. Yes. Yeah. Like there's no Christian country or Jewish country on earth. Uh, I guess there's only one of those, but there's no Christian country, Christian dominant country that penalizes people for not being Christian. It doesn't exist anymore. Right. It certainly has historically, but that's not been a thing in a very long time. That is the standard in the Islamic world. And until they fucking like it, our options are to cut them off completely or fight crusades. And we know that the latter doesn't work. We know for a fact that doesn't work. We've seen it over the last 25 years, we saw it fucking a thousand years ago, right? The only real option is to stop talking to them entirely. Like when you grow up and you can act like a fucking human being, like an adult human being, then we can have a conversation again until then stay in your fucking shithole country. So do you think people that are really liberal that are pro immigration and they're letting all of these Muslims in and they're like, they're not affecting the crime rate, which is not true because you can look at it. They are just not talking about it. Is it that they're naive or is there some kind of agenda or why I think politics is their religion, right? It's fundamental as dogma at this point. So but if you live in a place and you're like, you're directly in jeopardy of these people and violence. But I just came from California like they'll just move. Yeah. So once it comes to their own backyard, then they will just move and pretend the problem doesn't exist. It's all fun to say even with fucking George Clooney. It's a perfect example. I was living on Lake Cuomo for 20 years. Oh man, my buddies. We drink wine. We fucking hang out party. It gets overrun by immigrants and he's fucking gone. His wife is one of the biggest international lawyers in the world who reps her job is to get people in and out of these fucking countries. And even she was like, we got to sell this fucking place because there's too many grimy fucking fucks outside who were jacking off and loaves of bread. I call it over their liberals, right? You see them in New York. They're in the Hampton's. The best thing they ever did. Santa sent the people out to Nantec and up to Cape Cod and all the liberals that, you know, normally are used to having Obama as a neighbor was like, what are these migrants doing here? This, this will not stand. Yeah, the barefoot Contessa can't see this. Like, you know, it's, yeah, it's, it's fine as long as it's over there. As long as somebody else has to deal with it, how dare you have no bail? Like how dare you have bail? I mean, you know, like it's okay. All right, then you go live in the Bronx. I don't know. I don't think it's naivety. It's it's stupidity, certainly, but not naive. Like you can see well, anytime you can see the immediate impact of your decisions, I can't, you can't explain that with naivety, right? Yeah, and you can either change your way of thinking or not, or you could be the change you want to see and invite them in. Yeah, come on in the house man. We'll shower up. We went from the standard being assimilation into Western American culture to you bring your bullshit over here, right? Think about that in any other facet. If you were, uh, what can your country do for you? What can you do for your country? Well, if you're getting treated medically, let's say you have melanoma on your arm right there, what they wouldn't do is introduce more cancer, because that's fucking stupid. Yeah, right? All right, let me play devil's advocate, like, because the repressed, the more repressed you are in the more repressive situation you are. We see it, whether it's um, ish or whatever. When the younger generations are then shown less repressive cultures through just integration to whatever you want to call it classic liberalism or whatever. Uh, and I do agree with you. One of the my problems with the libertarian party where I find myself like falling out of the libertarian party is this idea of the non aggression principle is as pacifism. It's like, no, dude, like they're, they're being aggressive. You don't have to wait till you get hit there. They're being aggressive. Like this is aggressive shit. You stop knocking it like stop it. The best defense is a strong offense. Like tell them, knock this shit off. It's an interesting question. Right. Like if somebody is across the lake or pond from your river, rather, if somebody's standing on the other side of a river and they're shouting at you, like, Hey, I'm coming over there. I'm going to kill you. What exactly like, take them at their word. Where's the red line? I guess, right? I think that's aggression. Sure. It certainly is. But that's aggression from in the same way that United States operates from the top 1% of the top 1% of the population. So what we do is we marshal resources and 150,000 people in there and fuck shit up. Yeah. But that's, I mean, look, that's the way war is always gone. So this stuff with all the, like I criticized Israel plenty. I think bombing campaigns are fucking bitch moves, frankly, like I've been in gunfight. I've been plenty of gunfights. At no point did I say, Hey, you know what level is neighborhood? Because we don't need to fucking do this shit. That's fucking coward bullshit, frankly. But when somebody fucking attacks your home in, you got the right to do whatever the fuck you want. That's been the standard throughout all human history. Let's not rewrite the rules. Now all of a sudden the fuck around and find out because we don't like Jews, right? But if you think about it from the libertarian perspective, it's like, all right, cool. I'm going to prioritize not killing innocent people. That's, that's where they're coming from. Let me circle back for a second and I get that. And you asked, and this is exactly what I think this moment is because you asked before, how can we bring people together? After Occupy Wall Street, they 100%, when I say they, the deep state, the blob, whatever you want to call it, they absolutely have engaged in a 10 to 15 years PSYOP to try to get us to hate each other, right? I'm sure you guys have covered the amount of times Google and news talked about white supremacy, talked about race wars, talked about gender going on. But it never happened before Occupy Wall Street. Look at it. It never happened. Occupy Wall Street happens and it's all we talk about for a decade. They turned us on each other instead of them. Now we've kind of had it out. Look at what happened with the roast of Tom Brady. That was the end of woke. It's over. Black people are together, white people together. We're all looking at these crazy white liberal bitches with their mass on like, shut the fuck up. It's finally over. So now we've had it out. They're not going to tear us apart. And all of us, no matter what your politics are, you'd be the most progressive person on earth. You go to the grocery store and you've got four kids and you say this is $250. This is nuts. I don't give a shit with my politics or I can afford this shit. Yeah, 70% of Americans, despite what Biden said the other day, 70 on with Aaron Burnett, that was not 70 plus percent of Americans are like, yeah, the country is not doing well. Yeah, because they live in it. But you only lie less for so long. But you'll find out in November. And that's that's the thing is like these polls if you believe them, which I don't. They shouldn't even be this close. If you're struggling on a daily basis as an American, the same way all of us are. I mean, I fucking look at the goddamn bills every single day. They just keep going up and up and up and up. It's nuts, man. Everything. I get a fucking oil change was $70. And I was like, what goddamn world is this? Oh man, we're going to give you a discount. What was the discount? Like, what was it before? You know, flakes. I'm tired of fucking hearing about it. Like even they inflate the shit out of hard AF Seltzer. I mean, we know what the fucking costs are. And they're doing in the grocery store. Unless you vote for something different this November, then you don't want to let it all collapse. You have a senile old man, a narcissist and a guy that has worms in his brain. I'll take the fucking narcissist. According to polling, which obviously grain of salt, blah, blah, blah, blah, a generic Republican, it crushes Joe Biden. What do you mean by generic? Who is it? No, that's like any Republican versus Joe Biden would crush him. But when you introduce the name Trump into it, it's different. I usually goes down or up. Yeah, yeah, down, down. So usually when you see that poll, it doesn't play out the way you think it does. Nikki Haley isn't likable. Ron DeSantis isn't a public figure who's ready to speak to people. There's no person in that field that's less likable than Donald Trump to a huge swath of people. That's what they tell you. That's what they tell you. Like, like, you if you believe that you believe Joe Biden got 81 million votes. It's rigged. Wait, can we just say it? It's rigged. Said the gun to some bitch didn't even campaign last time you got 81 million votes. They're going to rig it again. I think the most delusional thing you can think is that there aren't people that don't like Donald Trump. No, no, no, there's a bunch. There's a bunch of people that don't like Donald Trump like that voted for him. And now we're not going to vote for him. It's delusional to think that Donald Trump isn't a deeply unpopular person. All right. Here. Here's that. He is also deeply popular. You're you're you're in Austin Texas, bro. I travel the country with all due respect. All right. The I'm not in Austin, Texas. We're in Austin, Texas, wherever you are. I don't live in Austin. Go ahead. Where do you live? I live in the country. I live fucking 40 minutes that way. You find a lot of people that have deep hatred of Donald Trump there, or you just taking what you've been told by the people who are paid to tell you that there's deep hatred of Donald Trump. I also live outside of my home and a TV. You can see there are millions and millions of people who do not like Donald Trump. He's a deeply unpopular candidate. There's 30 million people in the United States. You think more people dislike Donald Trump today than they did four years ago? I have no idea because they don't. So here's the thing, right? Hate him. But even on a like on a history show, which you guys host, who got the most votes of any sitting president in the history of our country? Nixon. Trump. Trump. Donald's John Trump. And this idea that people hate Trump with those people going to vote for Republican anyway, were those people going to vote for for Senator Mike Johnson? No, they weren't. So enough. It's a scottop. No way. So the other thing is and the circles are crazy. These circles are crazy, man. I go to the country club with Peter Mann and we're trying to like sell this movie and the there's this dude telling us like you people are always complaining about something. The social media has got you kids complaining. The economy is better than ever. Stocks are up. Every time I go out to eat here and bokeh, there's an hour wait. And I'm like, dude, how long have you been rich? What was the last time you went grocery shopping? He looked at me with blank eyes. I was like, you don't understand the world anymore, bro. You've been rich for too long. It's your rich. You don't care. Even the even the way we're talking about this issue is the wrong way to talk about it. It's not about a choice between three old men who have their issues. It's a choice between individual liberty and being ruled by some cunt, right? That's the real question. So any action politically that you're taking personally, including voting, that isn't in the direct pursuit of limiting the government's power as a failure on your part as an individual. And I mean that for everybody out there. Anything you do, if you're supporting a candidate who doesn't support shrinking the size of the federal government and its power, then you're fucked. Has that ever happened? No. Has it ever happened? There's a couple of people in US politics right now. We'll see if Justin Amish wins in Michigan, but Justin Amish previously, Thomas Massey, Mike Lee. There's a couple, right? But this is the thing that probably should happen. We've been focusing on president. And that's a big problem for the libertarian party, in my opinion. That's the thing that goes me most about the way they behave themselves. They want national recognition. Like, no, you started the bottom and work your way up just like every other structure in the history of fucking the universe, right? It's not sexy, but you just, you're 1000% right. What you just said is the most important thing because the federal level, yeah, they can rig it on the federal level, there's international money. There's really to your point, what we can do as an individual on the federal level is very, very, very minimal. But what you could do, and you as somebody that's doing this in your hometown knows this on a local level, if you elect like-minded people, I believe in the tactical retreat. I've talked about this. Everybody who is listening to this, from New Jersey, New York, do what I did, move to Florida, be around people who agree with you, be around people who understand the type of life that you want to live, tactical retreat, and then dominate the local elections. And then really, whatever happens at the federal level doesn't matter because locally, it won't be enforced. The taxes will be what you want them to be. And you have an issue with the migrants in New York, as you should, we got none of them in Florida. So Dan, it's actually happened once. When Calvin Colich. Okay, explain. He left government, or he left office with a smaller federal government. He hollered it out. Nice. He was great. Well, there we go, American hero right there. He is, and that's why he's the institutions to think of him as one of the worst presidents ever. What you're describing is the first step, right? The first step is to capture local politics, maybe even to the level of state legislatures. And the second step is something called nullification. If you're not familiar with this, nullification is what led to the Civil War, right? But it also led to marriage equality and weed being legal. So California, Massachusetts chose some 20 to 25 years ago to start issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples. They also started selling weed, told the federal government to go fuck itself, and what happened? Not a goddamn thing, right? Because federal government powers like Tinkerbell, it only exists if you believe it does, because they're not sending the military out here. It's not going to happen. No, it's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. We'll find out. No, it's not. That won't happen. So we've sent the military to the subway. So like, I mean, that's not that's a National Guard saying the same thing. So they're better, Dan. That's what everyone is said. The Coast Guard, the National Guard, those are the real heroes. The UN peacekeepers I heard. Yeah. So the nullification process works something like this. You hit something, hit on something earlier about debt strike, right? We stop paying taxes. Like, certainly there's some you can't avoid, right? But I don't mean the individual people. I don't mean 40 people in a neighborhood decide not to pay taxes anymore. I mean, the state stops sending money to the federal government, right? And if the state sends money to the federal government, then your county says, "We're not sending money to the state until you fucking knock it off." Yeah. That this is the process of nullification. And it's essentially like, I don't know, like demoing a building from the inside out, like a controlled collapse of building. That's what it is. And that's what we need. Well, I don't want it to collapse. I want a renovation. No, I want it to fucking collapse, right? Because we've built too much on top of a structure that can't support it. We built we have a 7,500 page tax code or some shit like that. We have laws that should not exist. We have mountains of legal fucking books that should not exist. We have a constitution, the end, right? I'm a single man. You're a single man. We can, I think, compete in the fallout America. You have a family. You have a family. Do you feel differently about that? I mean, I think you just wait on the outskirts until the people figure it out. I mean, I'm not going to be directly involved. I think for me personally, going back to what you said about going to Florida. A lot of people are doing that. I look at real estate prices because we're dealing with this fucking bullshit that we're going through here with this and everywhere else. Florida is the one that's going through the guy. It is going through the goddamn roof. It appears as if that state has figured it out. It appears as if everybody from New York, New Jersey, what was the other one? Pennsylvania, Michigan. They're all fucking moving there for a reason. Texas, on the other hand, like going the other way. People are leaving. Well, it's getting very purple, but like you come here and you're like, do the property taxes are higher than they are in California. Whoa. Double. I mean, it's not stupid. No way. Yeah. We just paid 30,000 for this. Yeah, but there's no property taxes. There's no income tax here. But there's not a Florida, there's no income tax in Florida. Yeah. I mean, there shouldn't be any tax levied at the state or federal level. That's on the constitution. That is a mistake. Right. Taxes should be levied at the local level, which means the local government gets decided if they want to participate in that shit or not. That's how it's called federalism. It's the system of government we're in. Yeah. But for example, we have a bunch of toll roads here. Have you seen those? Yes. I don't mind that. As long as it's owned by a private company, not the state, I don't mind. I'll drive on a toll road and I'll pay somebody to use their road. Which Chuck E. Cheese coins. Right. With whatever. But the problem is it is the state. So you'll get a thing in the mail. It is for now, as long as the state exists. But you know, no, it's a dance point. How do you start like like like it starts? This is the whole thing with like they're starting this with the if you're if you're looking at how to start it, Florida's a really good place to start where well it's not man. It's not though because they're using their power to legislate just like a fucking leftist would. Yeah, they're banning tech talk, they're banning fucking this and that fuck you banning lab growing meat. I'll decide if I want to eat poison or not. Nothing's 100%. I agree with you. Nothing is 100%. But if you have, it's the best of a bad situation. Well, it's not though because it perpetuates the entire cycle. You delude yourself into thinking that voting for this guy, this time it's going to be different, but it's never different. It's always the same fascist bullshit. It's just from a different angle and you fall into the illusion of choice. You fall into the trap of agreeing with them because you agree with the position, even if you don't agree with the principle behind it. And that's a fucking problem, right? Yes. So it's it's it's most difficult to say no to something that sounds good to you, right? And into your voting as consent guy. Well, but here's into Dan's points. Here is why this election to me is most important. 2016 to 2020, when Trump was in there, it was the richest I've ever been. And it goes back to comfort of what we were doing, what we were paying everything else. 20 to 2024 has been a fucking struggle. It's getting worse. Not better. It's getting worse. So is it the fucking mean guy, whatever? I don't really give a shit at this point. I just want to be the most comfortable because I don't think it's possible to change it in my lifetime. Serious question. Between 2016 and 2024, what was the worst year for that of you just in general? 22 probably. No, 22 or 23? Not 20. No, not 20. No, we actually 20. Yeah, 20 was just like life in general. Yeah, life in general. I don't obey fucking faggot rules. So I would that wasn't stuck at home or anything. So that's not a big deal. Yeah. 20 was actually really fun for our company and for us personally. We did we did very well financially in 2020. And even in 2021, we did pretty well. Yeah, it wasn't until 22 that it started to go down. 22 at the end of 22. And then 23, it's been a motherfucker. This year's just been a fucking struggle. But we are in a different industry than most people. So yeah, I bet for if you asked the bulk of American society, they would say somewhere late September 2020 on. And then all of 21 was probably pretty rough. Well, for me, I think I think they were allowed back outside again, people just accepted all the other bullshit that happened. But doing taxes for all the companies and all the entities and all the other stuff, you go back through food, you go back through utilities, you go back through gas prices and everything else. And you're like, Holy shit, I can't believe I was paying this. And it's down to like propane tax. Like how much propane gas was we were like, God damn it, man. That was literally double from what it was from 2020. I was I was having in the summer of last year in 22 as well, both of those summers, my energy bill was like five to $700 a month. Yeah, yeah, because it's 105 degrees here. And I'm not going to be inconvenienced. Right. Right. I'm not sweating in my own home. I'm not fucking poor. Exactly. So yeah, that was that's why I say 22. I think that was the worst. Yeah, I was the start of it and has everything caught up. But it's just it hasn't improved since then. So yeah, little things more than the big things to it's like, we know now to beyond a beyond any doubt, we have the evidence that our government, our federal government, colluded with the social media companies to silence the citizens. Like, like this idea that it was a private company, it came from the government to silence the citizens. You guys run a network, and you should be able to sue the government for, Hey, what happened to our reach? This directly affected our income when you technically you can in Texas. Yeah, and you should. Well, here, but here's the problem. And this first legal does grind up. We'll go back to it. Yeah. So they monetize the whole channel right now if they wanted to. Yeah. And they'll definitely do it for this video now. Oh, yeah. Well, that's not that it matters. It was not this video was not getting a $80 a month of YouTube. So we don't really give a shit. Right. This will go back to convenience and everything else where it's just like, all right, well, what are you willing to put up with? And then how much money do you have to fight it? Like these, that call right before you guys walked in was a half hour conversation of how much money was with a lawyer? How much money are you willing to lose for this one thing that may or may not happen? Yeah. And I said, well, what was the last case you worked on? He just, they sued a, it was a tequila company, right? And he goes, these guys had fucking millions of dollars and they were able to spend it. And I go, yes. And I go, so what was the end result? And it goes about 1.35 million. And I was like, Jesus Christ. And I go, what was the name of the company? I've never heard of it before tequila, Mockingbird. Exactly. That would be a great name. What was it? Take it if you if it's out there. Wow. I don't know. It's not tequila, Mockingbird. That's great. That would be a great name though. But but with that, I said, these guys have the money for it. It's actually a business in Austin. Is it really? Yeah. But they go, do these guys have the fucking money for it? And they go, yes, they did have the money for it. And I go at the end of the day, once you guys settled and finished the trial, did they say it was worth spending that money? And they said, absolutely not. Wow. Every good lawyer is going to tell you to avoid it. Yes. Every good lawyer who's not trying to steal your money. And so that's what your face with is that one choice that they have over you where they can spend the money to fight whatever the fuck you want to do. Elections Trump. No, I'm not just the federal government where they, that's what I'm saying. It's not their money. And it's endless for them. And that's why the fight is so hard is they know you're not going to fight. 99% of the people can't fight it. Occasionally you'll get a Peter Thiel who's going to go after a Gawker and sue, you know, Al Mulk Hogan's sue. Elon Musk is helping Gina Corona sue Disney right now. But those are so rare of instances. Like, it just doesn't happen. That's where you're beaten down, beaten down, beaten down. And then financially, you can't do the thing anymore to fight back. Well, it sounds like the kind of game that the only way to win is to not play it, right? Yeah, either that you send a message and it takes one person. I think we should the rest fall in line. No, it doesn't work. Not clipping Kennedy didn't do a goddamn thing. As a matter of fact, the military and industrial complex got quite a bit bigger after he got military industrial complexes who clipped Kennedy. Yeah, exactly. Right. But if somebody had worked, like if somebody had killed his predecessor, that wouldn't have changed anything. We still will be in Vietnam. I don't know. I'm thinking more local. Like, if I think like so sneaks in, right? Like if the people at the local level have to walk around us, we have to go to the grocery stores with us, we have to go. If they don't feel like they can safely live their lives because of what they've done for the machine, that machine will break down. I think maybe just take two months off from paying your mortgage and take all your money out of the bank. That's what I'm talking about. 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I get to watch the Rangers while tripping. Yeah. Yes. Yes. And then you know I'll get. I mean that's another thing it's I know you're tongue in cheek right now but that is another thing that you could do is stop spending money on recreational shit that because that has a massive impact on the on the federal economy. I agree. Stop going to baseball games. Stop going to sports games. Spend money offshore. Like with my bookie for example. Yeah they're up. You're like spend money somewhere else other than your own country. Like make it make it hurt for them. Netflix would love it. They just they just put a massive bid in for the Christmas NFL games today. So if you weren't going I do spend money in other countries other than my own because I pay my taxes. Yeah. So I didn't mean to be afraid to ride. Yeah. But I think that's the biggest issue with all of this shit driving here from Dallas. I was like are you clean. Yeah. Like how can there be one problem? It's true. It's true the whole way. What do you blame? What do you blame the Jews? Everybody wants to blame Jews for stuff now. What do you blame? Oh he blames the Jews for everything. That's also been the last two days. I don't blame the Jews for everything. I don't blame the Jews for you. You have the success of my sports teams. A little bit. Not enough to be captured all day. Well you got a last hand that makes people question it. Like oh you're Jewish. Okay. Polish. Yeah. I'm not getting those questions. Yeah. I did not badger the Jews for the record I simply explained what the Weimar Republic was and how you know the why the the time and the and the people were ripe for such extremism. That's all. That's all. Sure. Yeah. A lot of the tranny bullshit started back then. I had no idea. I told you they would know better. But then again like English people started the Atlantic slave trade. Right. I think Muslim people did. Not the Atlantic. 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They've had landlords their whole lives. Their landlords are Jewish. They try to do something. They become basketball fans who owns every basketball team. They try to get into music who owns every record label. So from their perspective who runs the world? Yeah it's interesting that we like intellectually we penalize success. Like oh there's a lot of fucking Jews in the diamond business like yeah because they make a lot of money in it. Like you're a fucking janitor. Your dad fucking raised you to be a janitor. They worked harder. Because your dad's a stupid fuck if he did. Like nothing wrong with being a janitor do what you got to do. But if you're trying to make money there are businesses that you can get into that make more money than other businesses. That's a straight up fact right. And if a particular group of people choose as one of those or another we know we know that to be the case right. And in more homogenous societies with broader fucking laws regarding gender equality for example right Northern Europe especially what we find is that people are more likely to choose a gender role specific occupation right. Like here I don't remember the exact numbers but I think male nurses here make up like 15 or 16 percent of the population in Sweden it's like two percent right. And they have laws that say you can't if you even come close to discriminating against a person because of their gender your business gets shut down entirely. It's not like we do here we need to sue somebody right. So people choose to do certain things and the ones like to be doctors. Sometimes scientists it's just the way it is. I just don't understand the proclivity we have to turn on each other instead of just looking up. Well because it's tribal right and I don't want to be very clear just for the record I'm not anti-semitic Gerard hates Gerard hates Gerard hates you guys already dot org and dot go we've already bought them but I don't feel like I need to be forced to be pro-semitic either right. So like there's this other idea where any sort of criticism or any sort of just acknowledgement of historical fact is somehow anti-semitic and that I push back against 100 percent. So like you know the inner to say that then immediately somebody is going to be like all that are shitty black either not as anti-semitic. That's not what I said anecdotally I've been around a lot more than you guys probably have and the fact of the matter is this is how they feel because this is who they've seen. This is who has been in control of the situations that they're trying to be a part of. This is who they see as the gatekeepers and then they look and they say this is one percent of the population. How do they have all this and I don't have all this and then they get the victim mentality and all that other shit to which I agree with you. These guys they went a different path like they don't have a jump shot so they figured out how to own the team right. So there's something to that. Yeah I mean that's that's why you know it's important to bring back bullying. Well I don't know if it ever really went away it just we weren't we weren't. Now it's a video. Now now somebody's got a phone in your face and they're like hey bullying of anything got better than ever we we just weren't allowed in on the party. Oh I never stopped. Yeah well it was it was too loud you know. Fat retard or fat retard it doesn't matter what year it is. Guys this is getting this is getting a little this is getting a little difficult for me to hear. I have to tell you because of the word retarder fat. Both. Okay so so no hard ours guys. E-tarts please. Oh it's not retads. It's hard maybe. I don't know. Pressure creates diamonds right. We don't have Bill Gates and all the stuff not that he's doing anything great lately but we don't have the technological advances unless somebody fucking stuffs that little bitch in a trash can when he's 10 years old. We need that. That is his like if you think about uh uh uh what what he call it origin stories for superheroes or villains like we need that badly. But do you think that that also breaks a lot of people like I think I think I think it's more I think it's extremely rare that you have someone that is able to be resilient and then is like a millionaire or billionaire self-made at at the end of the day. It's also a common origin story in villains. Yeah that's that's fine we need villains. We need them. You don't you don't have heroes without them as a matter of fact. It is for at boy summer. It is. And I hope it is dude because that would be great. I would love it. Look at this. We're. I hope so dude. We're so back. We're so back. I don't think we are but I hope so. This is fun to come back to Canada's statement. I don't give a fuck about people that can't take it. They don't belong in the gene pool. Get them out. We have to be a meritocracy or we fail. That is the end of the fucking story now. The good news is is that a man who goes through that who just correctly is going to become a protector of other people. Right. And you don't teach that kid to not get bullied. You teach him how to handle it. It's not the same thing. You don't you don't build a wall around that motherfucker. You give him a baseball bat. Where do you fall on eugenics then? What do you mean? Like well if that's the idea if it's an only strong survive. If somebody's born with maladies or deformities and they can't survive on their own. They won't they won't survive on their own. It doesn't matter what we do. Right. I don't think we should necessarily be interdicting natural selection that much frankly. And I don't mean if somebody's sick or something like that you take care of them. Certainly there's no question about that. But if somebody's weak that's not the same as being sick or because there's only one path out of weakness. Well there's two death and then fucking strength. Those are the only two paths. But the other part birth to somebody who's very strong like it's not like the deformity is take the deformity issue. Like Dan and I have a friend we won't say who it is because the audience will know who this is. And it's a girl too. It doesn't have arms. Beat the piss. I mean just the piss out of somebody like put him in the hospital bad and it was like hey and I asked her point blank. I was like hey I heard about this battery charge. I mean it was aggressive. And I was like what happened here and whatever. And it was like well you know so it's always been made. Well not only a point had you made but I had to learn to deal with what I had and so and so was talking shit. And it was like cool man this is this is what happens. She goes I built myself up though over the years to protect myself and do it. And everything else and her reasoning was great. She went into the court. Told that fucking story. Yes we didn't go to jail. So you ever see a three like a dog that feels sorry for itself? No. Not one. Right. Like we are built to overcome. That's what we do. Right. And if you interrupt that process it never becomes a real person. The end. This is how the core of Candace's motherly soul. I know it's supposed to because you're a woman and you're supposed to nurture right. But you're also supposed to do what the fuck I tell you. Well have you asked you this Candace has one of your kids gotten seriously hurt. Yep. Yes. Yeah. And what did they what was it? What was the injury? Um fell into a bookshelf and had to go get stitches like staples in his head. And then the other one it's not seriously hurt but there's this thing I don't know if it's happened with your kids but some kids will hold their breath and they go they pass out. I thought my youngest died. I did that when I was a kid. Everybody did. Like a tangent. Yeah. We all did. You don't like you know my parents. I don't know this. You know what my parents did. They fucking left me on the ground. I let the let the weakness die. Then I woke up. I was I think three to five year old and I was sleepwalking as well. Pissing in the fucking corner of the bathroom. My oldest is being in the closet right now. So he's gonna be good. He's gonna be sad and listen to this episode of eight years. Yeah. You know you know I literally just fucking leave it leave them there. Put them in put them into the uh uh recovery position right. You know you know how to do that. No it's okay. So hands under the head like this or at least one hand under the head like this on your side and then the fucking top leg comes up basically. Right. It opens you know no like um Bob pull up the recovery position. You don't perhaps them by the back of their head and rub their face and then go no. No. No. That's a dog. No. No. That's a dog. That's not a human. There we go. Like this right here. Okay. Just like that. So my dad was in the army so he put me in a position like that and when I woke up I was really fucking embarrassed. As I threw a tantrum and passed the fuck out on the floor and I woke up I'm like oh that didn't accomplish a goddamn thing. You cannot reward behavior like that ever. Was that what it was for you? Well I mean he's not even two so I don't think it's like a it's not like a tantrum I'm gonna show get my way. It's just like uh for some reason it's linked to an iron deficiency and some they grow out of it like five or six allegedly but it's happened a few times. The first time it happened I thought he died so I'm calling 911. He was out for like three minutes. Holy shit. It was crazy. Sleeping? No. This he was awake. He um he like fell off of a little ottoman that was like a foot tall. He started crying and I was like you're fine. He fell off that all the time and then all of a sudden just out. I was like oh dear god what is happening right now? Just put him next time in the recovery position. Yeah but he'll be just fine. Well the reason I ask is uh youngest had a cast so I don't know if your kids ever had a cast. No cast. It's the first time you get to learn to use either not one of the your arms or legs or whatever it is and uh and I as a parent you're always freaked out obviously and you're like you're asking the doctor like holy shit what do we do what's what's gonna happen or whatever and they're like oh they'll adapt you'll see. Uh sure enough like day two not using the the leg that you know the cast was on and everything else like but having the greatest time not noticing anything and it was like oh shit we were the ones who were worried about this. Very resilient species. Yes we are yeah we are. So we don't give us our own species enough credit. So let it work that way. Like for real if somebody is doing something that toughens themselves up whether it's intentional or not and you stop them then they're going to stay weak. No I on a on an intellectual level man I agree with you because like I just don't have empathy like for things in the past like talked about the anti-Semitism or something like that and it's like I don't have to give you special treatment because of the Holocaust. I just don't. Matter of fact I sit here and go like why did you fucking let it happen. Like slavery why there was so many of you and so few of them why did you let it happen. You know like if you don't have the capacity capability willingness and frankly you know the the want to defend your culture and your peoples then they get taken over. Then maybe they weren't worth defending. I don't know and I'm saying this as a person of Irish descent whose island was taken over for a thousand years and then they took our one food away and my whole family had to come to a whole nether continent. So I'm not saying this as some sort of like Aryan dominant guy. I'm saying and but I say that also with the juxtaposition of like I have massive amount of empathy for my common man in this moment talking about the groceries talking about people that can't afford stuff people that can't buy a house. I sit here and I say this is fucked up and the the the shame that I feel probably comes from that is that like I'm not doing anything to help in this moment. I'm one of these assholes that was like all right well get on the ship maybe things will get better when we get to the new world. No fucking won't man at what point do we just say not fucked it. We can't I'm not getting on the ship hell fucking no no no. You know I don't know. Well Cortez burned his right. Got him over here and burnt the shims. So I don't know it's the organization of 330 million people is what I can't wrap my mind around. I don't think he'll ever get everybody on board. What's even the thirty million. What's the purpose of having an organization of 330 350 million people. How does it make. Let's say the United States operated more like do you believe in national divorce. Yes. What what what what how would that work. Each state is his own country. So it had an entire breakup. One currency. Why why why would be so if you read the Federalist Papers Hamilton and others make the case to the case for a strong federal government. Everybody else was against with a central bank. You wanted you want us to have King's Queens aristocracy. Yeah hundred percent. We know that he of all the founding fathers is the biggest piece of shit by a wide margin by wide margin. Total piece of shit. Why there's a reason he got shot. Yeah. But he's the hero of the modern life. Right. Yeah. But all the things that he mentioned common defense, border security, a common currency. You don't need the you've ever heard of a fucking Euro. You don't need to be a country. It is failing. It is failing because well there's a reason why it's failing. It's because of Greece for the most part. But yeah it's it's a there are ways around this stuff that don't require us to be a single country. I don't know why people get so romantic and nostalgic about the idea of 50 states. I mean when our parents were fucking teenagers we added two more right. It's not that big. And Alaska hasn't done Dick for us. We got a chain baddie. They give a shame. I put Sarah Palin like she's probably the most famous Alaskan. Sarah Palin. Who else Sarah Nalen. There you go. Yeah well she's been on the show. Lee Sand's been on the show. So the Texas economy if we if there was a national divorce right now the Texas economy seventh in the world eight and it would be larger than Russia, Canada, Italy, and a bunch of California's. I wouldn't choose. I wouldn't choose Texas. Let's let's entertain this because I like it. I think we should split up. Like I for real. I think I think whatever your ideals are because I don't think you're changing anybody's minds in these days. I really don't. Even on a fucking podcast. We're not going to change this man. And he's mine today. Byzantine America. We're not. I would like to see it split and then go with each side and then see what happens is a case study in 20 years and be like all right. Is it going to end up like California? Exactly. Where would you go East and West? I think North and South has already been done. I don't think. Or would you go individual states? Yeah. Okay. Individual states. Where would you live then personally? Where the fuck I am right now. So Texas is where you want to end up? Yeah. Okay. And I'm assuming you're Florida. Whoa. What happens? Are we just assuming everybody gets along nice in the in the sandbox? Or is there going to be a balkanization where now Florida invades Alabama? Like I mean what was that? That that could happen certainly. And then are some places communist? If they want to be something then. Interesting. Yeah. Where would you where you're you're staying Florida? I'm staying in Florida. But we know that would scare me then because everything that he's banning. So then either he's going to stay in power of power of position of power forever or whoever replaces it is going to ban everything. There's no authority in Florida. That's the good thing. There's like there's like in New York, there's like one cop for every like 10,000 citizens. There's a cop nonstop everywhere in New York. There's like there's how many people are in a thousand and how many people are in New York proper? 12 million. Yeah. And there's 35,000 sworn officers in an NYPD. How many how many cops or sheriffs in Broward County? I don't know. Like there's only 750,000 total for the entire country. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Like like New York is a military it's under military occupation. And I didn't realize until I moved to Florida. And then I come back home and I'm like holy shit. There's a cop every three blocks in Jersey. Like this is crazy man. Like, you know, uh, but but to your point, I mean, I think the road you're going down right now is what about Mississippi? What about Alabama? Yes. Yeah. What happens to them? What's the landline state? They grow up or die. Like you, there's a resource that you have, whether it's your workers, whether it's fucking tourism or something. And if you don't have a resource and you're not a country. So maybe, maybe Alabama and Mississippi are the same country at that point. I've been traveling this country since I was 17 and there's great people in the culture is too similar. I'm not saying there aren't great people. What I'm saying is you have to make fucking money to afford things, right? You don't have the right to fucking depend on federal assistance to live your life. I'm sorry. No, that's that is that is completely untenable. This is I agree, but I also disagree. I get it. The world needs ditch diggers too. But these people have been captured by the federal government. They have not been released. Like there are good people in Michigan that just want to live their lives. But the auto union and the teachers union have completely captured, like they can move. And then do you get stuck somewhere? Let's say you pick a state and then they turn full commie and they put up a wall. Are you now stuck in California? I think you have your own constitution for you. We're going to liberate my cousins in California. Yes. Yeah. I think if I think if we, let's say hypothetically decided to do all this and you choose to stay in the state of Washington or Oregon or California, then good fucking luck. What if they don't let you leave? It should be like a Mr. B's video where you have a certain amount of time. Like like real idea. Like squid games, dude. June 17th. June 17th, 2025. You got to pick your fucking state, dude. Who do you want to be, where, why, and then whatever happens, happens. And you're resettling. It's like that old Tom Cruise, Nicole Kidman movie, where they stick the fucking flag in and they're like, great. That's a great movie. It is. I don't even remember the name of it. That's how great it was. Here's the issue that I see with. Far and away. Far and away. Yeah. The way that we're conducting ourselves, we think. On this show? No, no, no. Okay. That'll never be good. Exhibly. No, it's we have the wrong idea about what America is. It's not geography. It's not the fact that there are 50 states because they're having always been 50 states. We've always been America. We didn't always have 50 states, right? Yes. Yes. We've had different forms of government to some degree, not forms of government. We've had different ways that we led government. Different parties. Different parties, different strategies, different positions on foreign domestic policy. Always been America. And the thing that makes it America is the idea that individual liberty and personal entrepreneurship are the ultimate inoculation to tyrannical bullshit. That's the only thing that matters, right? So if that's a confederation of states rather than a union, a formal union, then that is what it is, right? And if somebody wants to walk outside of that, good luck, right? But if you try to stop people from leaving, then I'll come there and kill you. I think it would be I think it'd be like college football though. It'll like we all see the way college football is going. It's going to be the SEC in the big 10. Yep. And then everybody else is kind of a jag-off conference. And nobody cares. I mean, that's already kind of the case anyways. Right. Which by the way, that's I think that's what would happen with America in this point. So like the Alabama's and the Mississippi's would call up the other states like Florida and be like, hey, dude, you guys seem like you got better shit going on. Can I join up with you? Yeah, but that that is how it would work. And then they would join up with it. I mean, there would be empty space somewhere and somebody that made enough money in a certain area. But you know what, I'm going to go over here and do this fucking gold rush. I'm going to go over here and start a business and bring people over and build a new fucking community. You're talking about Europe, they just describing Europe. So now, you know, Virginia signs up with the Southern Southeast Conference, North Carolina doesn't, South Carolina doesn't, and now Virginia is its own thing in the middle and eventually they're just like, you know what, man, let's go get this bread out of the Ukraine. Yeah, let's go get North Carolina. The difference with the difference with Europe is that most European countries decided to subjugate themselves to a power that has no real authority, right? The difference with Europe is they have different languages and different cultures. Certainly, we don't. Certainly, that's part of it as well. Yes. But they also subjugated themselves to a central authority. And that cannot happen, right? They've subjugated themselves like so many central authorities. Think about the ruling powers over Europe. You have the EU, you have the UN, you have NATO, like how many governments do you need? The WHO has fast powers there. And those are the guys that look at America and go, this place has got to go. We could just buy our way in the NATO. We could buy our way in the UN. There's no elections. Why are we doing with this America crap? I don't know. I mean, it's, to me, it's like, I've, if I needed a campaign mission statement or slogan, it would be, I have the bold idea that fucking people know exactly what's best for themselves. Yeah, locally. Mind your fucking business. The end. I don't think we give up on America. I think a lot about, so Justinian, not to be, I'm sure they know more than I do, but Justinian after Rome moved to East, right? Like, Byzantine never existed, right? It's just a label we give it. They've considered themselves Romans. And Justinian got it up his ass after he survived the plague that he was like, I'm anointed by God. I need to reconquer or, or liberate my, my, my Romans to the, to the West, right? Like, how can I be the Roman Emperor if Rome is not even under my jurisdiction? So he marches West and he's going through, you know, the, the former lands and he's, you know, re-amalgamating the quote, quote, unquote Roman Empire. And he's coming by as the conquering hero to these lands and going, welcome back into the Roman Empire. You guys are free. And these people that have been living out there going like, what the fuck is he talking about? We've never stopped. When did we stop being Romans? They were like, yeah, no, you haven't been a Roman for like 70 years. They're like, well, who the fuck have we been paying taxes to? Like who's, because the barbarians were just acting as Roman Emperor. And I sit here and I look back 20 years on now from the Patriot Act. And I'm like, man, is this like a Justinian situation? Did the Empire actually fall? And none of us realized it? And now somebody's going to come and put this thing back together and be like, guys, we did it. We're out, we're out of the, we're out of the graphs of the, of the globalist who took us over and we're like, what, when did, what, when did this happen? I think it's so much so we're going to get worse. That's it. When in America, this is what you just said hurts me because I agree with you. And I realized it probably about a year ago for the first time in my life that the American dream type of a deal and the American idealism that you're talking about, it really boiled down to this idea that no matter how bad things were in this moment, there was hope it was going to get better. Yeah, it's going to get better. Yeah, we're going to figure it out. It's going to get better. And about a year ago, I started thinking, man, I don't know if this is going to get fucking better. Well, it was, it was built to be a self-correcting apparatus, right? Like that's the thing about individual liberty. Two years ago, the midterms. It naturally, individual liberty naturally decentralizes things, right? So you get soft resets instead of hard resets. And a hard reset is what I think we need at this point. But nobody's going to do it. It'll happen on its own. Like the, I think this, I think the real estate and stock markets are going to crash pretty soon. That's why I think they're going to let Trump in. My conspiracy theory is that Biden has fallen to your point, no matter what they're, like they're trying to juice the polls so that maybe they could pull off a Hail Mary and cheat again. But he's, he's fallen so far outside of the margins of cheating that they may just not be able to do it. So they now plan B becomes, all right, fine, let Trump in this, this fugazi economy that's been a credit bubble for a decade, just pop it, pull the plug, all these infrastructures that need to be to your said, this demolished because they've been hollowed out, pull the plug, punish us for the populist revolt. He said that about six months ago in this show. That's the plan was, hey, let Trump in there and then pull out everything. Because right now, even in interest rates and everything else, trying to, even just trying to buy a car, it's not, you're like at 12% APR in a car right now. Like I don't know, we're not, we're not economists here, but what does it say about the economy that we're trying to force a recession and can't, right? That's a big fucking problem. Because that's the way that, it's the only way that they'll drop the interest rates is if, oh, hey, people, we've got to get people to stop working so we can lower the inflation. And it's like, well, people, people need to be led. Like I don't, when I say decentralization, I don't mean that there should be no leaders in the community, right? Or even for the nation. And right now, the federal government is printing and spending money at a rate that's unprecedented in human history and people are following suit. It isn't just a federal government. Credit card debt in America amongst regular folk is higher by percentage, by a factor of about 40% than it's ever been in American history. Now, credit cards are relatively new, obviously last, what, 50 years or so. But still, we are fucked right now. People are just, like, well, the government's going to fucking dilute my money and spend, spend it all over the place. I'm just going to go take out a fucking loan. And I'm just going to rent forever. I'm never going to own anything. I'm going to rent forever. And then all these companies will continue to get richer. And nobody owns anything. Well, what was commercial real estate default last quarter? I think it was the worst in recorded history. Somebody could look it up. I believe it spiked. I don't want to be wrong on this, because it's like an astronomical amount. I believe it spiked a thousand percent last quarter. Oh, yeah. But commercial real estate? Yeah, it defaulted at historic levels. Yes. So it's nuts. 38 billion of U.S. office buildings face loan default before closing their other four. So six and a half percent. If you're looking at talismans, when businesses aren't even making, forget taxes. Businesses aren't making enough money to pay the rent. Sure. Well, yeah. I mean, it's not just, this is a new form of creative destruction that we haven't seen before, because it isn't just about inflation of the dollar. It is also about the landscape of the modern workplace is changing quite a bit. You don't necessarily need to be in a building anymore. You don't need a city anymore. Right. You don't need anything anymore. Anything. You can have 10,000 employees and none of them live in the same city. Yeah. Very doable these days. So what does that do? The guy who owns the pizzeria that serves those office buildings? What does that do? The person on the, you're off? You're off. All of it. Yeah. All of it is fucked. Yeah, but it's not fucked. It's different. And it is up to us as a community to fucking adapt to the new thing, right? Like the cotton gin fucks a lot of people over slaves, mostly, or whatever. Yeah. Convert it to fucking housing. I mean, there's like a, there's a literal, just like roof shortage in the United States of America. Well, this is something you're working on. What do you mean roof? Right. In North Carolina. There's not enough. You're creating like an artist community down there, right? What? There's an artist community. You were telling me about North Carolina where a lot of people are leaving these cities, the bigger cities, and they're coming down. North Carolina is like one of the number one states that everyone's moving to, and Wilmington specifically, for like the last three years in a row. I really think it's going to be the next Austin. Well, it depends. It's, it's one of those things where New Yorkers were more likely to move there than they were here. I know. That was the number one city. Yeah. Yeah. Number one city. It was South Florida and Wilmington, North Carolina. All my parents, neighbors, or, or New Yorkers, um, in a good way, because they were tired of the politics, which is why they get the fuck out of there in the property taxes. But for commercial real estate, that's, that's a simple answer, at least. At least we have that answer. Um, as soon as the pandemic. Wait, what is the answer? Well, so as soon as the pandemic hits, um, everybody had to work from home. Every business owner, as the last four years is going on, looked at their bottom line and they're like, all right, great. Inflation's taken money. Everything else is taken money. And then you look at the lawsuits and everything else in the electrical and everything that you were paying, uh, wise, and you look at it and you're like, all right, well, do I want some fat asshole who's going to sue me for fucking diabetes or falling down at work or workers comp or do I want to pay them the rest of their lives? Would it be better if I can just send them home? And then if they trip over their dog, if they don't, I don't want to pay for food. Don't have to do anything. I know someone, it was during COVID. So it was work from home. Yeah. They went outside. There were, it was all ice, slipped, broke her leg, and because she was on the clock, sued the company. Right. I would burn my business to the ground. I would take every dollar out of the bank account and burn it right in front of them and call them my cards. Yeah. I would never pay for that. And it was definitely a Christian lawyer that, well, they, I know that lawsuit, but they did not win. Um, and so with that, everybody looked at their bottom line and said, all right, great, man. So I don't have to deal with any HR. I don't have to deal with sexual harassment suits. I don't have to deal with food, electricity, water, toilet paper, paper towels. Dude, don't come. Don't even let them come. There's come all over this studio, dude. Don't let those people off the hook. Either people were way over spending on offices because it was a flex. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like people were spending eerie fucking responsibility to have dope offices and shit. What was the write off, right? Yeah. So they were making enough money that they could write it off. And now they're not making the revenue. Things were going well. So they were like, well, fuck it. I have the money to do it. Now everybody's forced to live or work out of their house pretty much. A little shit ton of people in my neighborhood work out of the house all day, which they should have done. I, I, I remote work doesn't get, it doesn't get the work done. For most people know, for most people know. But also now, here's the other problem with this is so the companies are making their balances square again where they're like, great, we just save all this money and everybody's working from home. Yeah. When bound people can't afford those fucking houses. So like, they're trying to figure out how to juggle. I needed an office in my apartments and I maybe want to have a kid, maybe not have a kid. I don't go back to even having kids in the first place. Well, it's a very solvable problem with that downstream effect you're talking about. And that's make your home is in the office and fucking write it off in your taxes. If you can afford a home, you can people. Well, I mean, right now houses are four or four to five times more expensive than they were, right? Right. But the upstream, like we got to solve problems upstream, the commercial, the vacant commercial real estate, right, that still has equity and banks. So it's tied into our entire financial system. How do you solve that problem? You have to return those in some way to a revenue generating. Yeah, you got to make retail legal, right? You got to make retail legal. Yeah. So it's like, you can't like after after the cotton, after the cotton gin comes in, it's going to get a little touchy right quick. But after the cotton gin comes in and displaces slaves, what's the solution to that to free them and let them go get actual jobs? Yeah, that's the solution. And I think that as much as anything else came into play with how the whole Civil War stuff started. Well, there was a guy writing about that. I forget the guy's name and he was basically like, slavery is ending anyway, because it's too expensive. Right. So it was a flex to have slaves at that point, right? That was a flex. But remember, our founding fathers, Jefferson for example, died, what would be the equivalent of 46 million dollars in debt or something like that? Is that right? Deeply in debt because of Monticello. Yeah. So it's like, we're in the same goddamn situation we were 243 years ago, 240, whatever the fuck year it is. Federalist papers. Sounds like they'd look like a Twitter fight today. Yeah. So it's like, do we, can we really not look into our past and find the solution for this? I feel like there's got to be some kind of. Do you think they solved it? Yeah, certainly. They just take the can. That's the solution. So, so boil it down. Do, do Bill James with me, right? Reduce this all down to one number. What's the one number we need to lean out of that? What's our, what's our USA OPS? Yeah. What's our OPS question? What's our wins about replace? We need to create a certain amount of revenue to keep this shit going. It needs to be created in a certain way that's both sustainable, resistant to inflation, so on and so forth. GDP to debt, right? I mean, but America first, we're going back to, hey, if we start there, let's just start there. Just keep the jobs, everything here, shut down the borders, everything else. But you got to think about when creative destruction happens, you have to think about all the players involved who are losing money because of it, right? And those people, you have to find new means of revenue for them somehow, but the slaves, it was obvious. They just got jobs or they got the homesteads or whatever the fuck happened, right? That's a very obvious example. Here, it's not so obvious. Like these people that own all of this real estate, well, it's black, rocket, state, street, and blah, blah, blah. You could say, you know what, fuck them. But they also own all of the index funds that your 401k is in. Sure. You know what I mean? So how do you handle that? Well, you were talking before, the real estate investment trust, right? So there's, there's this idea that commercial real estate, you know, residential real estate, it all gets boiled together into one asset. They can sell off the price of the asset. The price of the asset, they keep simple. It's the amount of units, time the average price of the unit, right? So you may be in a place like I saw this all the time in Jersey and you know, and they see it in New York with the pandemic, everybody left. Why didn't the prices in New York come down? Because that building is worth more as a chopped up ETF in an asset if they've got a hundred floors and it's average $3,000 a unit, then they bring in section eight and the government pays the difference between the $800 and they pay it upfront for the year. So they take the losses on the write off, they get them, they get their operating revenue from the government and then they're selling out shares of what their real estate holdings are, their portfolio. It's completely and totally unethical and they take that and they can use that building which is losing them money because they're not, they're not, well, you're taking the write offs on that. Yeah. And this Delco said this a long time ago on the show and it's starting to ring true more and more after all these fucking investor meetings I stood in to. Is any business profitable in America? Well, see, this is the problem with publicly traded companies, right? The product isn't the product. Apple's product is not this fucking phone or this laptop, it is their stock, right? And no matter what they do, no matter how good or bad this is, it provided the stock stays high, they make money. Yeah. That's just how it is, right? So this is the problem when you let hedge funds own real assets like energy companies or real estate, like especially commercial and residential real estate, especially those two are probably at the top. And by the way, look at the downstream effect of that, it's that the modern calculation for inflation now excludes volatile housing and energy. Is that not fucking kidding me? So real inflation, they think by the old definition, which is what 10 years old, real inflation, what they think got up to like 26 or 27 or something. Yeah. So like record record. That's 1929 levels, right? So we should expect a market crash at some point. It's being propped up right now. I don't understand how or why, but for the election, for now, but it's been going on for a couple years. I think you don't go through the election at least. I agree with you, it would be a crash, but not before the election. And then what happened? That's the plan. I don't know if these guys are wet and handle the fucking fallout. I think that's the plan. I agree with you guys, but I think these guys are rats, and they know they're rats, and they don't trust each other, and nobody wants to be the last one holding the bag. So as soon as one person gets itchy and pulls, everybody's going to pull. I don't think it gets that one friend. Everybody should like honestly, if you if you can manage it, it wouldn't be a horrible idea to liquidate any kind of fucking index fund or 401k you have, take that cash out of circulation right now. Well, here's the weird thing. I did a while ago. Here's the thing. I did a while ago, because of that fear. I did it because of the time value of money, because money in my hands invested is worth way more than it is in an index fund. But looking back on it, so I did this roughly two years ago, and Bob was saying like, 122 was my personal thing, where I was just like, Jesus Christ, man. And I didn't trust what was going on. I thought I was going to get worse. Stock market, though, I was wrong in that. Like, stock markets fucking going up, but stocks changed hands so much that were normal people, like us, sold or shit. And now it's bigger corporations. And what is it like 90% of the stock market is? I saw it explained in a chart, though, the stock market has only kept up with inflation. The rich people just kept their correct. And the normal people got out. The normal people couldn't afford bread and groceries and rent. So they had to sell the stock. They didn't get out. They were forced out. So I can't afford my food. So I couldn't keep my shit in Nvidia. And now, oh, well, the rich guy that I was talking about before is my stocks are higher than ever. Yeah, motherfucker, because you're rich. You didn't have to pull nothing out. You didn't, you know what I'm saying? Like, yes, it's better for you. You've been rich for too long, right? And I'm a capitalist saying this, right? But you just have no concept. Now, this is where the real test for crypto comes in. We've had this promise of crypto for so long. We've had this promise that this is this is the moment it's made for hodl. And I don't know if I if I believe I think it's been infiltrated. How so? In like a meaningful way, how so? What percentage of crypto do you think is owned by the same companies that own all the commercial real estate, state street, BlackRock? More and more and more than it was. Which is why people need to get in. I mean, again, that's that's they're buying people out of the market intentionally, because they're trying to create another situation where the only way to win the game is not played. Yes, and I even got out of Bitcoin for the same. Like I sold all that shit. You did really want to eat. Yes. And like I sold it. So, and I've told this story before, but bought it at eight, sold it at 24. This was just Bitcoin. We had a the Pompeo and her brothers were on the show and they started shit like this in front of your millions of fans. It's why you keep getting fucking sued, bro. What's that? It's not we're not getting sued because of the show. No, I'm not. We're getting sued. Nobody poor gets sued trying to have a small business in today's world is really fucking tight. It's other shit. Yeah, which is another. Oh, sorry. Yeah, you go. I was going to say what was pomps saying to you? No, so when he was on, because I asked him, we got in a hardcore aggressive crypto. Yeah. And he said, Ethereum and Bitcoin, he goes, those are the only real two. And they both own a shit tone ton of Bitcoin. So I was like, all right, man, they're smart guys. And I'll give this a go. And again, water to dates sold at 24. And I had a stop quote in there. I think at 23 or whatever it was. So it just sold out for me. I was like, okay, awesome, man. And then we'll see what happens. And then it crashed all the way down to like six. I was like, Oh, thank God, I got out. I think today it's at like 68,000. That's up. It's been a it's been hovering in the high 50s low 60s after totally high of 70. My point is I think most of us normal folk got out of it because of everything else that was going on and inflation on this other shit that's got out of the stock market, got out of crypto. The people that really own this shit is what you're talking about. It's bigger and bigger corporations, richer and richer people. They're all getting richer. Take those people aren't as much as I hate any sort of regulation. The fact that crypto is not regulated presents some interesting problems, right? So I is a large hedge fund can buy enough of a certain cryptocurrency to manipulate its value. Whereas it's where it's up all the time. Whereas you can it's pumped and dumped all the time. You cannot you can. I mean, people do it, but the SEC monitors that sort of stuff. If you're going to make a major trade, you're a large position holder in a specific stock that's on the S&P or the NASDAQ, you have to let the SEC know six weeks in advance that you're going to make that trade, right? There's all sorts of the Stuart role. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. There's all sorts of regulatory stuff going on there. I get into crypto. I buy it at fucking 10, right? And it's I think it's going to go up to 50, let's say, right? They're going to pump and dump. They're going to manipulate that market until I fucking pull my shit out of it, right? They're going to drive it up to 30 and then down to five. Yeah. Or you're saying where you're saying bacon freed. Yeah. And you have two billion worth. So you sell 100 million all at once. Sure. The price just collapses. Everybody gets out. They say, Oh my God, this is the big this is the big collapse. You knew what was going to happen. You wait for the price to get fucking to the level that you wanted it to get to anyway. Then you tell all of your fucking cronies who wanted to invest with you like now get in go ahead gets in and he puts his 100 million back in the price fucking skyrockets and he literally manipulates the market. Yeah, exactly. And there's no law that says you can't do that. Frankly, there's no law in the US books to say that says you can't do that because it's not a security. It's not a fucking publicly traded thing. It's it's cryptocurrency. It's its own thing, right? So it presents unique challenges, I guess that we haven't dealt with before stock market wise. And to be honest, I don't know that there is a solution to that, which is why I don't deal with crypto because any like if I can buy a ticket to the game, right? But somebody else can buy the all the other 40,000 tickets and they can just piss on my fucking face of the whole game. What I'm going to do is sit there and get pissed off games. Are you bro? No, I if you look at what he's talking about is what Drake is doing to he gets peed on all the time. No, no, but when he had that, this will be the first people with push a tee. He he was buying out the first 15 rows. That's the 50 cent move. Yes. 50 cent did it too. And like 50 cent was the first to do it to job. If you have the money to do it, you can fucking do it. So the only real solution to that is I think Daenerys Targaryen said it killed the masters, frankly, like if let's let's be real about this. The only way to deal with the power that's too strong for its own gut is to kill the power. What do you think before we get out of here? We'll go around the horn. What do you think is going to be the end result for America? When is it going to change? Um, I don't I think we're mid empire. To be honest, I don't think anything's going to happen. I think people are going to continue puttering around with their fucking hot pockets and their iPad for how many more years? 400. I don't know. Okay. What about you? Nothing changes. Yeah. What about you? Kenneth? Um, 25 years, I think, right? And you think there'll be some sort of civil war or something? Um, I don't know if it'll have to go to violence or not. I think it'll probably be a lot more strategic, but it's either going to be China or India that kind of overtakes. It's like the Ray Dalio changing the border, changing orders, the American parastroika type of the rate. Have you guys seen the Ray Dalio changing orders? Have you seen that? Mm hmm. No, it's really good. Uh, it's yeah, it's really phenomenal and scary. It's well, it's it's just, you know, he does a breakdown of like, um, the the five last reserve currencies worldwide and the empires that were behind them. I mean, you know, tries to kind of, you know, the Bill James model, he tries to make, uh, you know, an economically and statistically sound analysis of what made them rise and what made them fall. Um, and he kind of says to Dan's point that we're kind of on the downside of mid empire and that the only real we we can course correct, but it would take a very, uh, what would be the word I would use. It would take aggressive and it would we would first of all, we'd have to make the acknowledgement that we were in the downfall. First of all, and it would take, you know, a cycle of austerity and accountability to rewrite the ship in the right direction. Uh, where do you, what do you think is going to happen with America? I can't see the deep state going through everything that they see. I've met a bunch of CIA guys, like I'm sure you guys have, and they are kind of unrepentant about thinking the idea of the nation state is antiquated and they are global people, they are global citizens. They don't like, uh, having to go through the all the different minutia, the different rules, the customs, the, the currency exchanges, the laws, this and that, in all these different places, they think there should be one world government and they think that they need to sit at the head of that table. And I have not seen them not get what they want in my entire life. So you think that's what's going to happen? I think there's going to be some sort of move towards global federalism by 2030. Okay. Global feudalism. Global feudalism. You're right. You're right. Global feudalism. Right. And so I live with, uh, I'm with Dan. I think we'll just, we're gonna, we'll just take the hand. We'll take the hand down the road for fucking another 200 years. I don't think anything's going to change. And we're all a bunch of fucking dummies on a podcast talking about it. But I think, uh, because the level of comfort, I think there are people who are ready to fucking go out to the woods and all that. That's the other people who just want to take their kids to school. I don't think anything's going to happen. And we'll all just kind of put up with it. Uh, and then some other generation will deal with it, but it won't be us. Hey, look at a poodle and just look at that poodle and look at them. Just remember a thousand years ago, that was a wolf, but a thousand years of the master giving it food and a thousand years of the master. Well, I will not be here to see it. So I will not be here to see the poodle change. Um, five years to me is too fast. I guess you could start polluting more. Let's fuck this place up, dude. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to throw this hardy F can out the window. I call that accelerationism. Let's just get this thing going to use every fossil fuel we have. Right. Which we can never do by the way. Look, let me, let me take a, let me take a different tact here. I think with what happened with the roast of Tom Brady, with what happened with frat boy summer, I am excited that the youth has had enough. And I, I think that there is a part of Gen Z that is going to step up to the plate. And I think that we know that we fell asleep. Our generation fell asleep at the wheel too much. And I think that we are going to push back. And I do think that there's going to be people that are going to get into it at the local level. I do think that there's people that are going to say, Nah, enough of this bullshit. Why am I letting these nerds bully me around? What the hell was canceled culture to begin with? My uncle went to Vietnam and I'm afraid of somebody tweeting something mean to me. Like, no, like, we're going to, we're going to step up to the plate. I think this is our moment. And I think we're going to take it. I think that this is a great country and it's worth fucking saving. And I think that we will save it. Okay. And I think it's going to take somebody outside of a suit jacket like that to do it because I just can't take you seriously. It's too damn high. It is. We got to drink a brother week back there. Who's your buddy? You want to bring him up and give him Finnegan, man. Okay. Great. Great. Sean Finnegan. You want to come on camera? Sean? Grab a mic. Grab a mic up here, Sean. We do this thing called drinking bro of the week and we'll let you give it out. You guys have been on the show before. How do you know Sean? Sean played college baseball with me. Great left handed pitcher. Used to throw pretty hard. And you know, and now I had a great breaking ball. And now he lives right here in Austin, Texas. He's a big fan of the drinking bros. He wanted to come down and meet you guys. And that's really cool. You guys let him come on come on set. Well, we do leave the studio like for real. That's for real. We leave the studio open. Everybody's welcome to come and get booze shit. Who grabbed four cases out of there earlier? I mean during mid show drink all day. Enjoy the studio. You guys built this. You should be able to, because that's the only reason we have all this shit. So we own it for now until a fucking freeway comes through it. But let it fucking burn. So party do whatever you want. Who would you like to give drinking bro the week to? I mean, as far as in general. Anybody anybody who has inspired you helps you become the person you are today. You know what? Gerard actually I will say Gerard. Oh boy. Gerard and I have given to somebody else. Similar to somebody else experiences post baseball and a lot of stuff that he's a set on his other show. Domestic violence with me. Okay. Yeah. So and thanks for having me down here. It's great to see Gerard. I only get to see him a couple times a year now. Always try to go see him when he's in town or San Antonio or Dallas or whatever. So thanks for having me down here to meet the guys. Absolutely man. Well, thanks for coming in. Helps yourself to some booze. We appreciate you guys being on the show. Tell us where they can find your podcast. Chatting with Candice.com or anywhere they get podcasts. And I got slick and thick with the great Mickey go. He's got a fight coming up June 1st at the Prudential Center. Check that out. Yeah, dude. He's making it to win the fight. Yeah, Mickey's gonna win. I keep asking that. Mickey's gonna win. Look, it's 50/50. Every fight's 50/50, but Mickey's gonna win the fight. I think he's gonna win the fight by first round guillotine. That's my that's my. So Delco is a fucking UFC Messiah here. A lot of the bets I take come from him. Here's as a fan. I bet as a fan and that's my fucking problem with UFC. I think Mickey could and should be the guy that could be the next big superstar. But it's so difficult because like you said, every fight is 50/50. We can just get knocked out and there's nothing you can do about it. I hope he wins and I hope all this shit happens from your tone. I'm telling I'm guessing Delco doesn't doesn't see him as the I don't know and I wanted to ask him live on air and put him on the spot. So Delco, I'm obviously I'm obviously gonna pick Mickey, but I just I would like some plus odds. He hasn't fought in a while. Yeah, he's had some back issues. Obviously, this has come back. So I would like to get Mickey at plus odds. That'd be nice. So here's the thing, right here. And this is I can give you the inside scoop. Mickey fought his last two fights in the UFC with a fucking quarter size hole on his back. Yeah, the fact that he was even able to be competitive is a testament to the man that he is. Right. And he's been a kill clip. FC for two years now, the he's he's never been known for a striking. His striking is going to be completely different than anybody's ever seen before. His body's in the best shape that it's been in years. You know, Basel is a beast. He look at what he did with Della Donaman. Like, you know, he's he's a hard headed dude, Egyptian dude. He's built like an absolute Mack truck. He's a great wrestler. But I believe Mickey is one of the best Jiu-Jitsu practitioners in the world. And where Basel thinks he's bringing other people into deep waters, that's where Mickey swims. So look, it's a fight. Anything can happen, man. And it's been two years since the kid's been in the ring. But if he wins it, sky's the limit. I know. If he wins it, the sky's the limit. You need three, you need three wins in a row in the UFC. If you get three wins in a row in the UFC, you're in action. That's a solid year. You put together a solid year and boy, you're rocking, right? Especially with him, because he's got the personality, he's got the looks and everything else. Like, that's the guy you want on top of the fucking world. It's just fighting and it's tough. Look, one way or another, it's not it's not like win or die, dude. There's a ton of other opportunities out there. But I wouldn't bet against the kid. I wouldn't bet against the kid. I'm not going to. Basel is a pro, dude. But he's going to have to fight a perfect fight to beat Mack. You know, that's that's and if he does, he does. Like, it's the pros, brother. It's the pros, you know, it is. I appreciate you being here. I'm going to take you to dinner after this. Good. I soon's rate the show a five star and leave a quick review. Also head on over to Spotify. It's just a five star. And you can walk away at that point for Dan, Anthony, Anthony Hollaway. I'm Ross Patterson. This is the drinking bros podcast. Good night, everyone. That was great, brother. Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it. I'm going to do that. Cool. [Music]