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We also have an interview with Neve Ford from the Carlo ladies football squad, ahead of their Lancer final against Laud on Sunday, that's over in Amora Park, and has always checkout the Carlo ladies social media pages along with Carlo Comoe and Carlo Jea.E for the fixtures. We have Leech Sami Finals on Friday in the belief at the time of a card and those games are moved over to the training center. So, plenty going up on the program. As always, check out leftfillingback.com. Email us info at leftfillingback.com or send us a DM if you have any sort of query orders in relation to advertising, or whether it's a content idea, whatever the case may be feedback on ongoing events. That's where you will get us. So, the next way you're going to hear is from the one and only Pakori. Now, on Saturday in Netwatch Colum Park, we've seen quite a turn up for the books, probably the greatest day in carol and hollering history. A man better place to tell me whether that's true or not is a man who's soldered with the county. And indeed, you would just love to say it mullens for a long, long time and a more passionate man in Netwatch Colum Park on Saturday evening. You won't have found anywhere. It is, of course, Mr. Pakori. Patrick, very welcome. Is it the greatest day in carol and hollering history? That result, even if it was a draw. I suppose, from the outside, looking in, it is, Kevin. First time bringing in anything from an answer to Championship match or Championship match versus McKinney. At the same time, I remember a couple of years ago, we were commentating on a national league match between carol and Westmead in Wellington Air. And the game was in the militant part in carol. We're kind of getting back into the game. And we're about 10 minutes ago, you asked me the question. Patrick, would you take a draw now? And I said, no, I'd rather, the victory is there. The victory is there for the taken. And we didn't win that match that day. I think it was late to promote. The clock was a promotion season or maybe it was the year that down our entrant bet is both in New Year and final. So, look, it was on an unbelievable day. I suppose it was a way to say. But it was the analysis to kind of, in the way of my brain would say, coming out of the game and even on the field after the game the game was there for the taken. And possibly, maybe Carol showed a little bit more, a little bit of nervous or didn't, maybe a slight lack of self-belief early in the game and mightn't have taken to the game, taken the entry as they began to do later in the game when they realized that they were, they were the equals of their opponents on the day. Like, also, as it is, it is, look at it. I don't want it to seem to be taken away from such an occasion because an occasion it was and a highly emotional occasion for anyone that's ever put on the car to Jersey or traveled up and down the country and supported the car to orders. So, yeah, it was a great day. - Yeah, well, look, are you seeing you quite animated that matches, be it as a player, maybe on the sideline and definitely as a supporter. But I have never seen anything like you did today. You were really fired up for this one. And, you know, I think you were one of the first people to throw me anywhere that I could sense sniffing an opportunity, like in around 45 to 50 minutes, you know, when the lead was starting to get caught from eight points, it was gone back down to six, maybe. And the more that was getting caught, the louder you were getting. But you kind of feel a shift coming on the pitch as well. But I don't know, was it like as if the supporters almost sensed that you certainly did, really before the players kind of did it? It seemed that way. I don't know if that's true or not, but that's how it seemed anyway. - Yeah, definitely, and like wear me hard. I may sleep, I hardly match one and support my own team or I'd make no excuses for that, Kevin, as you will know. But I'd also be inclined to be, I suppose, have been on the end of a lot of bad days, plans to make some kind of take over things. And I remember the day we played, the same ones played right down the arrow at the entrance championship. Another great day for what's for our top and playing a marathon from all in the hole in the tip where he was actually with me at the game. And I couldn't see his win in the game at all. And he was just a neutral and he said, "Sure, of course you're going to win, "you're playing the best violin. "You have the best man in the field and most Kevin. "Sure, you're going to win that game." And I, you know, so I, from then on, I would kind of look, try and look at it as it last half full. And from almost 10 minutes into the second half, I could see like the momentum was shifting in the carolist direction. And all the, the forward momentum, I can't even seem to pick off points, but they were maybe picking after scores on the break. Whereas carolist came to come more in waves like a Kenny and, and this was actually my hand did help but like Kevin McDonald was, was even by example from the back and making that one, a kind of a inspirational catch with his right hand. He switched, switched the hard across his left and lifted up his drop forward and his knee was both same height as his opponent's head, as he drove through the bar and just made a kind of a statement, kind of a catch. And the on wall came to his read. I don't think, I think he didn't actually, they're counting to his read. He was so, so precise with that, with the hard around over his shoulder and just freaked the ball away from him like, you know, and that's a, that's a very momentous kind of occasion and match when, what many people were the hardest and greatest harder of all time, was being hurled and like, hurled purely on skill alone in an exemplary piece of defending. Like, you know, that's where it started looking at how, you know, how that carol team was performing on the day. And maybe we might have left an actual, even more famous result behind this, not taking anything from putting the point on the league table first, which could prove very, very important. You know, next week and a half, within week and a half, will lower fate in what, 10 days time, 11 days time, which, you know, again, seems it would be lovely if results went our way for more day. I would have to go after those, for later challenge, but that's, I suppose that's for, that the parents have out in the next short while. - A couple of things you touched on there. Kevin Matano's catch in particular. That was just, I don't know how we got it. And the reason is because he actually lost, so I give it for a moment, slipped, recovered, and still went up and got the ball. That was incredible. A couple of other standouts for me, Brian Tracy. I mean, I'm not going to use the term shafted, that is way too extreme, but effectively in reality, he was dropped for the Dublin game, and he was dropped for the leash group game, we'll say, in the league as well. And that's not taking away anything from, from Kieran Abbey. But in many respects, Brian Tracy was very much vindicated. Like, the song would have saved, he made the day, he spoke out at one instance in particular, where he had made a save from Tom Feelin, and then from the follow up, put his body online, almost got decapitated. Helmer came off the head. I thought that was a beautiful for a moment, and a real moment of, I don't know, I'm not going to say, it's not exoneration. What is it, vindication, I think, is the one that was- - Defiance, then, defiance, you know. - Defiance, resilience. - Yeah. - I don't know for this kind of, I don't know if it is SH1, T1, Carlos, and, you know, I have enough moral victories, and come out and let's clap us in the back, let's get this, get this six or seven points, and, you know, having the scale, and having the technique, and having the horland to back all these things up, that's what I'm so happy about as well, you know, the lies within the nineties. - Another man deserves, he was quite a, is Niall Volger, because in that world scope game, Niall, from what I understand, actually put the hand up, I wanted to go over Marpley Ryan, and on the line, you got a bit of a toss, and that obviously would have knocked his confidence like, now Niall Volger was exceptional tonight, I thought, you know what I mean, on a night where- - And he was very good, and he was also very good against Dublin. - Absolutely, as was Tony Lawler, another guy who is not always in the line like, and he's proven his work, and I think it brings us nicely into, and it's not that the route I intended and gone on, or such a beautiful moment, this occasion, beautiful day, but there is an obvious disappointment with how this has been covered as well, from my point of view, and I'd be interested to hear, I suppose, the Asscherity's Protector sentiments, because, I mean, you know, certainly turning into the Saturday game, it was a great, what do you call it? A great addition to have a Saturday game, and a great little addition to get more in a minute and a half. But you'd be hopeful that the pun that's wouldn't fall into the whole trap of, Tom Blally is doing a great job. John was on a cold blaster, mentioned mouse governor, mentioned Chris Nolan, and like, that's literally what happened, and it came from Anthony Daly. Neil McManus was there as well, he knows these guys inside out. I think they're fairly short of how they analyze the whole thing. I mean, I think the dogs on the street know about all those things at this particular stage. Tell us about Conor Keohan and maybe the improvement he has made, all these new guys coming in, let the country know about the other guys that aren't known. This is what the whole point of the thing is, and what we're hoping, I don't know. That's just one instance I suppose. And I'll bring in on that one first. - Yeah, well, like I think I said to you, and I said to a few people, like you have many instances of, you know, freeze frames and different camera angles being shown and in the car match and limit match and movement after ball, and if there ever was a score that was right for an analysis, it was Conor Keohan's goal. So Harry comes down, breaks down. Look at the work he gets to flick it out to Fitzpatrick, drives down. Now look what Conor Keohan's behind the two cadets. So there's David Blanchfield to his left and Conor is right between the two cadet players. That bar hasn't even reached most yet, but now look at the ground here, he's after making on him and he's now made 10 yards, 15 yards on David Blanchfield and, you know, a good ball into Paddy Ball. Great block by on Murphy, but then Lancome's Conor to follow up on various. Like if that's not right for analysis, I don't know what's right for analysis. That would have taken about 30 seconds, you know, 30 seconds on the Sunday game. You know, it just didn't happen. So like that's just one instance. But like, you can see there, but it's easier to see it. And actually, if you look down to the left, the lower side of that camera angle, you will see that James Doyle had taken off on a sprint at the same time as Conor Keohan, he was roaring from the ball. So at the work rate at that end, at that part of the game, which I suppose vindicates the lead's decision maybe to hold, there's a management decision to hold Conor Keohan and likes James Doyle and reserve to be hitting the ground running to be full of energy at the end of it. Maybe, you know, who's, you know, so that kind of thing is lacking big time. There's no, well done podcast with James Keohan, the hurling part, as opposed to being one of the biggest in the country. They give it, I said, "We'll go to the hours of the Carpentham, "which was fast forward and fast forward to waiting to hear "about Carol O'Kenny, maybe 10 minutes, "with all due respect, "and we don't want to take away from Carol O'Bose. "We don't want to take away from Carol O'Bose." You know, and that's kind of the meaning or not, whether it's a, they can help it or not, it's kind of a condescending kind of attitude. Like, you know, actually, I know that they loved their hurling balls and places like Arlingford and Dona Meika and all these places. (laughing) There's great hurling people and those parrots in the roar and in great manner. You know, you'd like to see them getting their Jew, you'd like to see them getting their Jew coverage, or say, "It's great for him to get great coverage." - And to get a mind against Carol O'Kenny. - Good, extraordinary. - It's great. There's great hurling people in Kehney and Kevin. You know, they loved their hurling there in Kehney. (laughing) - Very good. - And I want him to buy Arling now in that statement. - Yeah, well, look, come here. My stance on it will be as follows, right? Like ordinarily, in his story, and the stats have proved this. Carol O'Kenny turned over to play to Kehney 10 times. They might get a draw once, right? - Yeah. - Sorry, that's just reality of it. - Oh, that's reality. - Whenever car play limber, even though a limber car is as good as they are at the minute, I would give Cork at least 30 or 40% of those 10 lashes. I'd fancy it and I don't think it would be a one in 10 situation where there's a draw anyway. And that's where I find the halting of it disappointed. I mean, in many respects, like, it's hard to think of many other results where literally an all-erland finalist of last year and the past two years, the most successful Harlan County of all time, have been headed to a draw in a championship match by a team that's just come up from the second tier. Like, I cannot think of historic examples to actually match that or surpass it because, you know, people talk about Kerry's win over Waterford. Like, Waterford weren't exactly ripping it up at the time. You know, they weren't consistently contesting other than finals or anything like that. And I appreciate it. So when I would definitely put it ahead, like it sounds silly to say this now on bias, I would put that draw ahead of West Meade's victory over Wexford because Wexford are not on early contenders year in year out. We are looking at the greatest Harlan County of all time. And it sounds biased. I cannot think of another example of a result that has drawn the books up quite as much. And yet, in my view, from what I've heard, and maybe there's other podcasts and other outlets out there that have proved to the contrary, I think we've been short changed past, being honest with you. - I've short changed, but I suppose it's just that it's just, maybe it's a demographic saying maybe, maybe you might know more than whoever's wanna get the hits and we're so too small. - I tell you what I think it is. And you know what, I'll rant here when we're at it. If you want to point it out, I'll rant all day long. I think it's just blind ignorance. And the only exception that I can see, the obvious exception to that rule is Dave McIntyre, who did the commentary on the GA coverage, which I watched back two or three times afterwards. Now, you could tell he'd done his homework because he was able to say the last time a team ordered and set Wallens and Rangers won a championship was in 2008 and it was named Reed. Now, he doesn't just pull that out of his head. - He is sat down or maybe an assistant has sat down and he spent time getting all those stats and all that information together. And it shows and he gets respect. He didn't roll out the famous circus lines like, you know, and that's the difference, man. - Well, you see, like I said, the lads that are on, I suppose on the game, and it's easy to buff to Chris Nolan and I was having it because it's like they're household names and James is in this game of popcorn for last, you know, 10 years, they're out there. Like, you know, and everyone knows about them. So I suppose it's, it's kind of, it's easy enough. It's lazy enough kind of thing to be able to do and try to sell those names, like, you know. - Nevertheless, Pat, I mean, I think to look at someone who's given so much detail, I'd be remiss of us to not give our own contribution early on my golf, I showed out he's provided excellent copy for the left wing back over the past number of weeks. He's provided excellent copy and stats in general for a lifetime and how he went, I suppose, without having a facility to write, is a bit beggar's belief. Anyway, look, he's here, he's writing and he's done a bit for us and we are so delighted to have him. But he was speaking to Kieran Morphy - On the National Tour. - Absolutely, he was speaking to Kieran Morphy on the across the four legs podcast. Now, go and check it out if you haven't done so already. It was just exceptional. If any man is going to sum up, how big a moment last Saturday was, you see on my golf in that podcast. I think you had to listen yourself. I did, I did, I'd say, I've never heard, I think put so articulately about what it means to the hardly-hardened man and woman in Canada law. But also, behind the passion and behind the emotion, he gave excellent kind of analysis of the game as well. Art is super soft, super soft, but I'm a patter heron. I wouldn't, I'd hear it to me, I'd listen to it as well. And he was emotional and the actual podcast was just really, great stuff. And I think, of course, just look at, you know what hardly means to us. Don't say I'm honest, you know what it means down in monastery interest. I know what it means to you and you know what it means to me. And you know what people say it's in our DNA. It actually is. It's ingrained there somewhere, somewhere back in the ancient times. It must be something that has little little spark in the back of our heads. Sometimes, sometimes you think you're going to fall out of the fire, out of love and where things are going with the game and the light ball and you know, and the sweep or system goes in, but then all of a sudden, it pulls your drags you back in and you go to a matching moment of an earn fee and then there's a little ten year old and he's given an exhibition or little girl who's showing everyone how to do it and all of a sudden he said, "Geez, this is just cool." And we have that work, that's mission. And what it means to us all, you know, tendency to fellas, the lads that have put their bodies and put everything on the line for us again. They are not Saturday night. I suppose I did say it to you after the game. There was one that when most lined up the last three, I just turned on to lads and I was going to be, I tried to the motors running high, but I just said to him, I just hope he scores it. Just for nobody's sake, not for the result, not for our sake at the bank, but just for his sake. For all he's after doing, for what's the same? One is people, but for his carol people and for his teammates in their clothes in the county. And the selflessness of his way hurts and the way he always does what is best for the team. But for him, just to have that little moment at the end of it, where he said to yourself, he was shaking on the thing. Like, you know, as a farmer for your take on yourself, I know exactly how he felt, but I never took it for you that might be true ever in my life, I was never looking enough. But to be able to hold it together and like, from a technical aspect of it, most takes the freeze off his left. He was coming in from the right. The wind was blown diagonally from the bronze, from bronze down into the tunnel of Dr. Holland Park, which was blown straight across from his right to left. And he was, as a left-handed left side of the free-taker, he was gonna be caught in the ball. And whatever way the force were, the conditions were narrowing, going to narrow the target for him, the natural phase of his ball. And from what I can ascertain from people in stand, he started off that ball, three to five yards wide on the right-hand side, to allow for that, and brought it in just inside near post. So, you know, he was able to do all that with such pressure and his hand shaking and his heart up to 90. And if you remember, you did videos, and he was shaping up to a mixing of referee blows and told people to move back. And he was shooting by 40 seconds to a minute before he got from the time he placed the ball to put it in his locker, which is not ideal either, like, you know. So, just with the light front, the light front. In all his accolades, just a little personal thing, because I know if you have missed it, great to be a stolen issue for the rest of his life, because I know it's like the family is. Not for himself, but just for about, quite a missed out for the rest of the people, and the rest of the people watching the game. - Three big examples. I know we're getting short on time just to sum up the one brain trust he saved who was Nicky Quinn, I think it'd be everywhere. Dion Wall taking the ball off of TJ Reed, literally dispossessing him and tearing it. And James does catch over Hugh Lawler. You could say the best fall back in the business may be after Wall on far money. - Yeah, at the minute. - Like, catch up all over his head near the end and put us back to it in the points. I mean, that was such a key moment as well. Composers on the morphe as well, has kind of gone missing on people. He could have panicked there. He took his time, he knew he had the time to take. And slotted over. The composure of Carlo Park. This is the thing that I think they need to be complimented on the most. Like, you know, persistence and composure. - These are, this is where, like, teams I would have paid on myself and, like, and we had very good teams over the years, but when the higher we go, the higher level we go is to, and the higher the stakes that were there, we just weren't able for it. Like, and, you know, it's easy to say that. Now we look back and, like, we needed to be able to, we were never able to maintain that consistency in that level. So, you know, it's, it's just a testament to those that, you know, it's just, it's routine for them. It's routine for them. They know what they're capable of. And that comes from the management. The management instead is, they believe this. And they know, they imagine they have full confidence in the players and full confidence in themselves, and what they're capable of. What they know them, what they know is, you know, within the, as well as the remissive possibility for this group of players, you know. - Last question passed. Sunday, three o'clock, what's calling Park Wexer to come into town calling for us. - Look, it's set up for a kind of a, I suppose, I don't know, for a carot, like from such a high, from everybody, the question is kind of be maintained the next day. Like, no, no, that is a big question. And that's what people would say, Wexer are completely for one now. Or I don't need to, we're going to be, you know, coming from places, anyway, because, you know, recent record between the counties and even underage level, they shouldn't be, they couldn't be, you know. It's one of the very big ask. Obviously, Lee Chin has won't have a big bearing on the game, he has had a disproportionate effect, this was on games involving Wexer this year. If he was to have enough day, or it's not, I couldn't see the reason why he couldn't be shackled, like TJ Reed was shackled the other day. That would be a big help for Carlo, in one run. I dare I say it, if Carlo were to get a result on Sunday, he would be level on three points of Wexford, we'd go to Carnegie Park, if we were to get another win, and it would be on five. I just write no permutations there, there, there, even. And look at the way things would go. You'd never know, we could end up on five points. It could be a case where Wexford end up on three points, and Wexford will end up in relegated, because I think that the Kennedy would have faced with Wexford to know on the park, and possibly look at them and say, "Look, this is, we had enough of this getting bit by Wexford too, 'cause if it broke the record recently, so it could be something similar to the 2013 temporary match up there, the famous one in all in the park, where, you know, it was one of the greatest games there for the Kennedy, of course. I, I fancy the Kennedy to be Wexford known in park, as was on paper, then I should fancy us to be at home, you know, we drove to Kennedy. So, I stick like Elton and say a win for us, which would put Wexford in dire straits, and we'll see what happened above in Carnegie Park to follow on Sunday, then, you know. - Good stuff. Well, look, the next voice we're going to hear from is the Kennedy manager dirty thing, he spoke to Lee and Kelly O'Rourke for the Kennedy County radio and the Kennedy people's sport. Excuses made from supporters into Kennedy about three at the end and threeies in general, but they did hit 17 whites, but dirty thing had no excuses on this occasion. - Derek Langston's here at disappointment, I'm sure, in that Kennedy dressing room and commiserations to yourself as well. It's very raw at this stage, which are reflections as we stand here. - Probably a fair result, you know, we had plenty of chances, and Carlo, you know, like a few things might have gone away, but probably deserved a result. - Never easy to play with 14 players, Kelly and Doyle sent off in the first half. In fairness, I'm sure the lads will rally around him in the coming days, but playing with 14 men, did that have any bearing for you at all? - Well, look, obviously, it doesn't help, this is early in the game, but at the same time, you know, I thought we probably, we just got a bit ragged in the second half, plus our shape of it, which is disappointing. You know, we had a chance that, you know, it's a hard time to reset, and look, I think, when you're not taking your creative chances, you're not taking them, and put pressure on the team, and I thought, you know, the frustration probably seemed true, so we'll have to take another gen, because, you know, there's no issues. - And there was periods in the game where you were on top, and just even going in a half time, not to have that little bit more of a cushion. Was that a worry in the back of your head of that stage? - Well, in that stage, you know, we planned against a strong enough breeze, so it was reasonably happy, but we still left a lot of scores behind us in the first half. And I knew if you weren't as clinical in the second half, we could be under pressure, because obviously the extra man was going to, you know, as the game overall, it's that day was going to, you know, make some kind of a difference, but look, we weren't a clinical and that was it. And, you know, Carla were first in the ball, they were fighting harder, and that's, you know, that's my responsibility. We weren't good enough today, so. - And it's a game of fine margins. Carla put in very good joins against Dublin and Galway, so it just shows you where Lancer Hurling is at, and you can't take these teams for granted? - Yeah, no, for sure. And that's the approach we'd be taking. And, you know, today wasn't good enough. And so we just have to dust ourselves down now, and we have to get ready for next year against a huge battle. - John Mulay picked up a slight knock, he took him off in the second half, and he updated on his condition. - Not yet, but after he assessed it, he was, you know, a muscle, so generally those things take a week or two anyway, you know. So we'll have to see how that goes. - Paranelle Park and Dublin are too far away, I'm sure you'll put your focus to that. And in fairness to Carla, it was nothing came easy. Can you take something from it and just try and put it to the back of your head? - Well, we'd have to. I mean, it wasn't good enough. We have our own standards, whatever, but like I can't take anything away from Carla because they performed really well, and they deserve to get a result out today. And like it wasn't good enough from our site, and that's as simple as that. We have to, we have to be better the next day. We know that, but the players are giving everything, can't, you know, I can't fall out, and today we'll be disappointed overall as group. - And very last question, three at the end, caused a bit of disgruntled and disappointed supporters you won't hone in on that too much. - Look, yeah, but there's no point. - Yeah. - It was given, and they got a score over, so nothing we can do. - Now on the left wing by Paul Cass, we turn our attention to football. And on Sunday, the Carla senior footballers caused somewhat of a surprise when two-layer goals from the man on the other side of the screen helped them to a 2-17 apiece straw with leash in the fourth round of the Taliban court. That man of course is Aaron Amond. - Aaron, firstly, you're very welcome. Good to have you on board. You must be delighted with how the game finished. And talk to us about, I suppose, how you turn things around between the Wexford game, which was desperately disappointing. And to produce performance like that, must be very pleased. - Yeah, sure, look, I suppose. Obviously, the Wexford game wasn't brilliant. We let ourselves down, and we like harder down in that game as well. So, look, the week after that, or the 10 days after that, one pretty. And we had new, I think as Jamie Clark looked, a lot of soil searching in the group. But look, we just decided as a group, we had to stick together. Regardless, we knew the talent and cup was coming up in whatever was three or four weeks. So, we just said, after them 10 days, we all just stuck together. We went away for the oil, which really helped. And, yeah, look, we just put our heads down, and just said, we need to work next day and do ourselves proud and just work to the end. And no matter what happens, we can't, we can't kind of fold like we did against Wexford. So, I think that really, really helped. And, yeah, obviously, look, we just managed to pull off a result at the weekend. - What you think, in hindsight, I suppose, maybe all the nice that was coming into the game, and terms of being written off, all that, that it might have been something that worked in your favor, in a weird roundabout way, because nobody literally gave you the chance, and, you know, maybe least bought into that a little bit, too. - Yeah, well, look, there was a lot of talk going on outside the camp, and we just kind of put a mute to that inside the camp, and just ignored it, because there was a lot of it that was just made up anywhere. But, by no means, I agree, which I probably did help as well, because it did galvanize us, and probably nobody did expect anything to come, or that we would do anything. I suppose, even just under goal chances, like, we had two or three really good goal chances in the game. We two in the first half, and probably two in the second half as well. And, even we're, I think we're five or six points down at half time, or could have even been a little bit more, but we felt like we were in it, because we knew dem goal chances would come again, and, sure, obviously, thankfully, the chem again at the end. So, once we stayed in it, I suppose, we always had a chance, because we knew we would get dem goal chances. Just on your own performance, I thought it was about that. I mean, the couple of goals in the early end, you took the one from open play very well indeed. And, in terms of the penalty, you also slotted that away on a stable. What was going through your head? You must have been nervous there to know for the penalty. I tell you now, the goal kind of just, I'll be honest with you, I came and went. I was kind of running out before I realized that we even scored a goal. Just ended up, the boys have met brilliant runs, and I just ended up inside the 14 yard line, and Eric Millay handed it to me. I was kind of over before I even realized. So, I was just glad that went in. I should have looked at penalty. I don't even know what to say. It was, it was just one of them ones that was just hoping to go see that you don't miss it. And, thankfully, to keep it going the other way, and it just trickled in. So, I'll take that all day long anyway. - Is it a draw that kind of felt like a win? I suppose, when you're six points, that one's definitely probably does. - 100%, I think we're eight points down with four minutes left. So, like, it feels like, look, let's be honest, we robbed the draw, but could be a valuable point coming towards the end of it, but at the end of the day, big game now Saturday, and, obviously, then in two weeks' time against week law as well. So, it can feel like a great point, but at the end of the day, if we don't do ending for the next two or three weeks, it's a useless point as well, so. - The one thing that's commonly said about Carlo is the runners, like, you know what I mean? And the amount of, at least, that's in the squad yourself included. When the weather is fine, it does seem to suit you. It's like, Billy O'Loughlin would have said it on this podcast before, and even Justin Manoli said it after the match Saturday. So, obviously, that's something that you'd be hoping would remain in your favor in terms of the weather over the next few weeks. - Yeah, well, look, we're not there. We always knew we're not the biggest or the strongest team, but we do have a lot of small, quick lads, and we'll probably do like the sunshine more than the rain and the wind now, to be honest with you, but, yeah, the hard ground definitely goes to this a little bit more. And so, as we've been saying for the last few weeks, so we put a bit of pressure on ourselves for the weekend when it was sunny. We said we best actually go out and perform after saying all that, but, yeah, look, if the weather stays nice for the next few weeks, just we'll be flying it hopefully. - It was some weekend on our own for Carlo G, and obviously, on Saturday, the Horner's, you know, pulled off and the Maesner's all drawn, but you can't even lens or see in the Horner's championship. But one of my friends by the way said that, you know, as soon as that game was over, it was the footballers won't want to be outdone by the Horner's, and I guarantee it'll pull off a serious performance tomorrow. I don't know, does any of that creep into the camp at all, or did you take inspiration from that result? I know you were a member of the panel in the not too distant pass there with the Horner's. - 100%, I was in it, I was in it, and what the lad was doing in the Horner is unbelievable. And they're right at the top table in the Horner, and they're there, they're about every year, and we're just pushing on, and pushing on, and pushing on. So what they're doing is unreal, and obviously, the best look to them works for this weekend. So best look for them. It definitely, like, it gives a massive lift to the county, and it does show that no matter what, anything is possible. You know, a lot of people, as I said, also, are falling against leash to rip them off, going in against Kilkenny. It was probably, people from Kilkenny didn't bother coming, because Caroline were going to be a pushover, and people from Caroline didn't bother going to the game, because Caroline were going to get hammered. So them boys just showed exactly what they're capable of, and to be honest with you, I was in the week before as well, and they showed a beat of them. So there's no moral victories there, and they're not going to be going out to try putting them in performance against the extra, them boys will be trying to beat extra, and they're well capable of it. So best look to them, and hopefully they'll be able to get over the line-out. - We're nearly finished up now, but one microcosm of the effect that this is having is actually your own nephew at the weekend, Parik's life. 'Cause that, even as he Parik had a story of him all poking the bar on after the Kilkenny game. And then you're obviously holding them, I think, after your game with leash. I mean, isn't this, in essence, what it's all about, when you see the mascots and all the young lads at the hole in the football? That's the effect that these type of things do have earned. - That's it, I was actually, I was up in the house Saturday evening after the hurling, and all he wanted to do was go out and play a hurling. So like, if that's happening, and I'm sure it is, it's happening a lot more households around Carlo, and like after watching them play a hurling, it's absolutely brilliant, because there's not, there's nothing better for a young lad or a young girl to be going out and doing playing either hurling or football. So hopefully between ourselves and the footballers and the hurlers over the next couple of weeks, we'll give them young people a lot more to kind of look up to, and a lot more to, I suppose, want one to play the footballer hurling for Carlo or both in the future. - Last question. Team of the week, you must be tough. - I do, to be honest with you, I didn't even know about it there till one of the lads sent it on there yesterday evening or something, but asked look, it's, as I always say, they only ever look at who scores and things like that. So it's not really, it's not really a true reflection on how anybody plays in the game, but I'll take it when it comes, I'll take it when it comes, but it wouldn't be too, too ecstatic about it now or anything. - Cool man, cool man, that lads wouldn't mind this to you. Listen, the very best look over the next couple of weeks, and thanks for having us out with us, all right? - No problem at all, thanks very much, Kevin. (whooshing)
