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I'm Griffin Youngs joined by Christian Bole as always the Avalanche stay alive in game five and they force game six back in Colorado with a five to three win over the Dallas Stars, a series is now three to two. And I said last episode, we're all a little down right now. It's not over. The series is not over until a team wins four games. The Avalanche played awful. In the games three and four, they played their best game of the series in game five. They score three goals in the third period. They get big performances from their top guns. And now all of a sudden momentum abs coming back to Colorado. They've lost their last two home games really hard to lose three on home ice. You're two wins away from this now. You're a third of the way there. - Yeah man, it's just a totally different tone going into this episode than the one earlier this week. It feels good. Yeah, I wonder why it is. There's nothing crazy happening that we know of. But what a win, man. Like that was a very, very impressive win by a team that had their backs against the wall and they delivered. And I don't think it's a coincidence that two games your superstars have showed up, you've won. It's not a coincidence that that's the case. And McKinnon, Macar, Ranson was okay. McKinnon showed up like you had your superstars making super star plays. And that was the difference in the game. In all honesty, this game should have been a bigger blowup for the abs if they didn't fucking treat the puck like a live grenade sometime. So like this game could have been five one, maybe. - Probably could have been five. I'd pitch a shot out honestly. All three of the star's goals were massive, massive, avoidable mistakes that did not need to happen. And you still make those mistakes and give up three goals. Your game was absolutely fine in this game. I can't think of a single one that you look at and go, what the fuck are you doing, man? Those are all nothing that he can do. All three of them were just massive mistakes. So again, you give up those three, you still win the game. We've set it for five games now. Eventually it's gonna get old. But if they clean up the mistakes, they can still get better in this series. And again, all it takes is one win. And now all of a sudden we're talking positive again. It's crazy how the playoffs work. Momentum is just a concept. It doesn't exist in the postseason. It does not carry through game by game. And I pointed it out yesterday too, where now it teams with a chance to move on or 0 and 4 in the second round. It's not easy to get that fourth win. - It's not easy. And it's just like, it puts that seed of doubt in Dallas' mind. Like, you have a chance. You don't get it done on home. I said, now you have to go back to Denver where that crowd's gonna be buzzing. Like that place is gonna be so, so damn loud. Excuse me as I get the hiccups as we're recording. I just, I feel good, man. It feels good to get a win. It's that Kevin Maloney from the office. I know you don't watch the office where he just goes, it's just nice to get one. It's just nice to win one. It would have been so sad if the abs went out four straight losses in the second round. But they aren't. They get the win. And now you're heading back to game six and you're feeling really damn good going into it. - Yeah, and it was a good enough performance that you don't walk away from that thing. You're like, oh, it's a fluke. Good team gets some bounces and wins game. No, they deserved to win this game. They played really hard and they took a lead for the first time this series in the third period. And yeah, they made a lot of mistakes, but the effort was there. The whole night, I think from at least most of the lineup and you're give fantastic again in this game where that looks very easily repeatable to do that on your home with last change. And now just some confidence going into the rest of the series where Dallas's aura of invincibility, like, oh, look at how they've shut down the abs. Whereas like, they've done that. But the way the abs played in games three and four was very easy to shut down. They didn't do anything. And it feels unfair to Georgia if that he posted an 885 tonight. Yeah, it was like, look at the field. How did he have any chance on any of these? He didn't. That's the thing, but it just feels unfair because this entire series, you're going to look back on the stats and you'll be like, oh, Georgia, probably was reading. No, Georgia, it's the reason that the series is still going on. If it's not for him, this team is probably already playing golf. Like, that's just, if we're being honest. So I love the way Georgia's playing. And like you said, this effort seems very repeatable. It does. Like, you played your top guys a lot. Like, how many minutes did McKinnon end up playing? McKinnon played 24/20. Ranton played 20/20. And Drewann, 24/04. McCar played 26/46. And Tae's 24/20. So they leaned on their top guys in this game. It honestly felt like they played more. I'm actually shocked a little bit by those numbers. I thought they would have played more. I thought McKinnon would have been close to what McCar's at. 'Cause it felt like every other shift in the third period, Nathan McKinnon was on the ice. And he showed up. He finally showed up in a pressure cooker of a game, gets two points in the game. And that's the Nathan McKinnon you need if you're going to come back and win the series. That's the effort you're going to need. And you said it earlier, if you can just get something out of Miko Ranton and offensively, something offensively, you're going to have a really good chance to win the series. I still don't think he's been effective. And they tried to break it up. He's working hard. It's just, it's not there right now for him. It's just not. - Yeah. I mean, the best superstar in this game was Cal McCar. - No way. - Cal McCar answered the bell in this game. He saw all the people that were, after four games, ready to throw away an entire career's worth of sample size of him and Miro Heiskinen and start putting Heiskinen in the same tier as him. Again, Heiskinen's playing fine. He's having a fantastic series. He scores another goal in this game, but they're Cal McCar when he's on it, man. Sorry, like there's simply no other comparison. He's second all time in playoff assists per game by a defenseman tied the franchise record for game winning goals by a defenseman in the playoffs. And just had an outstanding night in this game offensively and defensively is a huge reason why the apps won this game. If not the biggest reason the apps won this game. - Yeah, I'd agree with that. He was phenomenal in this game. And I just love the narrative how fast it can change just based off of two games. It's just so funny to me because even on the broadcast they're like, Miro Heiskinen was drafted before Cal McCar. He's a surefire hall of famer. It's like, what the fuck are we talking about? - Like we got to relax here. Like I have one question that I think ends this entire conversation. If Chris McFarland lost his mind, got brain controlled and called Jim Nill and offered Cal McCar for Miro Heiskinen one for one. How fast does Jim Nill accept that trade? - How fast is like point one? Is there something faster than point one seconds? - We would discover faster than light travel. (laughs) - It's, you answer the question right there. It's the same thing. And it's nothing against Heiskinen. He's still a top 10 top five defenseman. - My opinion of him is absolutely risen in this series. He's been absolutely fantastic. But again, this is like the sixth guy now that we come in here being like, oh, this guy is on Cal McCar's level for sure. This one, we've got it. The last five, they've all kind of not been able to do it. You're over a year. But this guy, for sure, he's definitely on his level. Just love Heiskinen, right player. You got to stop doing this every time a defenseman is good in the NHL saying that he's at least on Cal McCar's level. It doesn't have to be true. It's fine. - It's fine. But I just thought that was fine. It's like, right for a row, actually like one of the more tolerable people at ESPN. But you're like, "Mero Heiskinen is a sure-fought hall "frame." It's like, okay, let's pump the brakes here, man. - And let's like win something first. - Yeah, like pump the brakes here. Has he even finished top three Norse winning? - I've never seen him as a finalist before. - Yeah, like it's, let's pump the brakes here, man. I thought that was very funny. And I know that's just a basic thing to say when you're an opposing like a fan and you have a national broadcast, you think they're cheering against you. But God damn it felt like today that they were just sucking off the dowel stars. - They did arguably they were. I mean, they had one interview for Kalemakar in between the second and third period. That's really all the attention the abs got in the game. There was a weird thing in the second period and like, wow, look how full the building is. I'm like, it's a playoff game. - Certainly hope so. It's a playoff game. It's like, wow, the stars are such a big deal and doubt it's like, it's the second round. - And they have a chance to go to the Western Conference finally, yeah. - I certainly hope that the top of the stadium is, it was just a very weird comment. - Right. I was just like, okay, like, it was weird. I actually in a weird way, like Steve Levy more than Sean McDonough. I don't think that's a hot take. - I like his style. I just think his voice is better suited for highlights, whereas you see the highlights after the game. I think his voice is better suited for that. I don't think he's a bad commentator. I just don't know if that's his role. - That's fair, that's fair. But let's get the ESPN broadcast out of the way, like our complaints about it, because holy fuck, dude. Like, I honestly think I could go out there and operate that camera better than a lot of the people ESPN is employing, because there was a point in the second period where it was a repeated game four where Hayskin had the puck at the point and we're zooming in on Giorgi F. And it's like, where the fuck is the puck, man? What are we doing here? - Like, it was better than game four only because game four is potentially the worst camera work I've ever seen in my life. It was better in that way. That does not at all make it good. I don't understand why they get so close to the puck, why it's so hard to frame up and track. Like, this is gonna be a short, short rant because it was slightly more tolerable in this game, but it was still just the kind of thing where little things like show the penalty that just got taken, show a replay. And there was one that got under my skin in the third period where they kept showing the style like, oh, McKinnon, McCar and Ranton, the last three games, all the, they've been terrible. And in the third period, they showed it again and didn't show an updated graphics showing what they had done in that game. Why are you showing this to me? You are telling a story, complete the book, complete the narrative here that they've had a really good game. That's why you're showing me this, right? It's this, the kind of thing where like, there's no one build graphics here either. - Well, they build them all before the game and they're like, we're just gonna run them, right? - I should do pictures, just change the words. It takes 10 minutes. I will never understand, like, I know why it happens, but why can't like the team's local broadcast just broadcast the entire thing? - It would be sick, but there's contracts and- - No, I get it, I get it. But it's just, it seems stupid because- - It's all about money. It's all about national revenue and it's easier to calculate how many people are watching. So. - Yeah, I don't know. Just annoys me. Give me the chance to watch the Canadian broadcast. Let me watch it on Sportsnet, at least where they're actually take their hockey seriously. But yeah, that's our quick ESPN brand. We get TMT on Friday, which I think will be more tolerable. But, overall, man, I'm just really, really happy with how this game went. And you get the superstar performance from your superstars and you get the depth goal. And, hi, Zach Parisi was great in this game. He was great. - He was not ready to call it a career. This was one of the best games he's had as an Av. And that assist he has on the middle stat goal that gives the Av's the lead early in the third period. Like that's great hand-eye. That's a great heads-up play. Just a guy, 39, this is his last chance. He doesn't want to go home. He doesn't want to end on this note. And so I think he just, he gave them the push that you're hoping from the guy without a cup on your team. And I think that's kind of what this team needed. What they needed. And he just was effective. I didn't love the fact when he got cross-checked and nothing happened with it. Like, it's like that felt kind of dirty, but not dirty. I mean, it's a playoff play, but that should have been a penalty, in my opinion. And he bounced back and just kept fighting, man. And he is playing outside of his means right now. He should not be a second line forward in age 39. But also, Ryan Clark, dude, why'd you have to post that story today? Like, I'm sitting in there at work and I see that story pop up. I'm like, God damn it, I'm gonna have to read this. I'm sitting there. I'm like, this motherfucker's gonna make me cry at work. Like, Zach Parisi is bringing emotions out of me. Our words, I never thought I'd say that were like sad, happy tears in a way. - Yeah, I mean, I love Zach Parisi in these playoffs. I mean, he's a guy you got for free in January. Didn't have to trade for him. He's been a pretty much perfect bottom six edition that you're using above the bottom six right now. And yeah, he looked off for a couple of games, but so did the whole team. You're not gonna blame Zach Parisi for the team not going. Like, he rolls when the team rolls. He's 39 for Christ's sake. I mean, yeah. And he got them over the finish line in this game with that great play, great solid defensive play. Like, he had a couple of good looks in this game. - You need him to be a dog in front of the net, especially with a bow out. And I thought he was on it tonight. He was really good. Casey Milestat, I think, had one of his better games. Obviously, he scores goals in back-to-back games, but he's looking more and more confident with the puck, he's starting to figure out this Dallas pressure a little bit. And you look at it, I mean, I don't know if it's really an excuse, but what Casey Milestat's played the stars now? Was he in? Yeah, he was there for the last game between them, but he didn't have nearly the experience against playing them that the abs had in the year. So it's gonna take some adjustment for him. And I think we're starting to see Zach Paris, or excuse me, Casey Milestat figured out a little bit. And that's so damn important for your second line center to be, I'm not asking him to score tonight, but just be dangerous. Like, the last couple of games, I feel like he's been dangerous, and that's big. Well, I think it also helped of breaking up the top line, and put Ranton and down on the second line like they did coming into this game, 'cause you needed to do something, where you were not getting enough out of your top guys, particularly from Mico Ranton. You break them up, you put Lacon and McKinnon Drewan on the same line. They all look great and have fantastic nights, and you have Parisi, Middlestadt, and Ranton and, on your second line, and that line looks pretty good, too, where I don't think it's a bad thing to trot that out there, and if the going gets tough, put Ranton and back up on the top line later. I just think it spreads out your talent so much more, and throws Dallas off their game enough that they have two lines of stars that they have to defend against, and then if you need them later in the game, you put them back out there and load up. I think that just works way better for this team at the moment, and especially with the opponent they're going against. - Exactly, I think it's based on the opponent, and the stars have four very good lines. You need to be able to be a threat on all three and a quarter lines. Like, you need to at least somewhat disperse it and put in Ranton on that second line. Another great move by Jared Bednar, and yeah, Mico, I think, is going to get it going as the series goes on, but he's just, he's kind of stuck in the mud right now, and hopefully, if he gets more of the burden, I think that may be better for him. Like, he's gonna be the playdriver for that second line. - Yeah, he's, well, we love Joining McKinnon together. Joining McKinnon kicks ass, like, that's not surprising news. - Yeah, and having Laconan on that line, this was Laconan's best game of the series. Even outside of the goal, he was generating a ton all night long, and honestly, that goal with .6 seconds left in the first period, that's the biggest goal of the season in life. That changed the entire complexion of the game. Instead of having another good first period and being down one to nothing again off of a dumb mistake, it's 1-1, you're the first time you've scored in the first period in this series. It took it down with a wire, but you-- - It took 19 minutes and 57 seconds, or 59 seconds, but he did it. - Still did it, and it gets the power play on the board, it ties the game, like, it just, it changed a lot of the momentum in this game. And it's like I said, on the Toe Dabs of this count, our turn Laconan has never scored like a small goal in his life, just like a, you know, casual throwaway goal in a meaningless game. That man only scores massive goals. He only scores goals just with his nuts on the table. He puts it all out there when it matters the most. I love him so much. - Yeah, he's exactly what you needed him to be. And I think that line of McKinnon, Drewann and Laconan, it just works. And Drewann, second game back, he was dangerous tonight. Like, he's only gonna get better as this series goes on. Hopefully it's for another two games, and hopefully beyond that. But as he gets more and more into it again, him and McKinnon is just so deadly dude. And then you add Laconan who has great chemistry with McKinnon too, like that's a dangerous line. It's a dangerous line. Like, you have three really good scoring options on that line. - Yeah, I just, I think the final form of this team is with Rantonan on the second line, and spreading out the talent on this team where either it wakes him up and he drives play on that line, or he's not bringing McKinnon down with him at the end of the day. 'Cause again, Rantonan, the car in McKinnon, I thought were excellent. Rantonan, I think, still has a ways to go. And you have the McKinnon goal that puts you up five to three with three minutes left in the third period. And you immediately have to clench again because Rantonan nine seconds later takes a penalty. - Really dumb penalty. Like, we hadn't even finished tweeting about the McKinnon goal. And it's like, oh shit, the abs are back on the PK. Like, fuck dude, like this is ridiculous how this is happening. And you get two of the three superstars step up. I can live with that. Like, and I also, I don't know if you saw this on Twitter, people being like, you need to trade Ranton in this off season? - Yeah, I saw that, right? - First of all, the series isn't even over. It was tied when I saw that at one. And we're talking about, we got trade Ranton, here's what we got. You think it was five nothing. - Right. - 'Cause it's a game where the abs played better in the first period. I know they haven't given you a lot of confidence the last three games, but at least wait until they're done before we start throwing out the crazy idea. - Here's the thing, the only chance Meeko Ranton ever gets traded is if he says he's not going to resign. That's it. That's the only way he gets traded. - Yeah, and you don't win that trade either. - Correct. - There's not a thing like, oh, you get this and that and you can like, no, you don't win a Ranton in trade. You're gonna put that to bed right now. This is not even something I'm gonna talk about in the off season whenever that is because it's ridiculous. - You don't win a trade if you try. I saw that and I was like, guys, let's chill out. Like he's, this is kind of what Meeko is in the play. - Let's finish the game. I just never understand why before the series is over for a team like the Avalanche, that is good. I know they haven't played well, but is perfectly capable of doing this to start, immediately start trying to subtract guys from the team like, let's finish first. Let's be completely done before we start trying to start a rebuild. - Just crack me up. I was like, guys, let's pump the brakes here. Like he wasn't great tonight, but everyone cool down here. So yeah, I think Meeko can be better, but if you get McKinnon and McCar to play like that, they're gonna be a tough team to beat. So we've kind of hopped around so far early in this. Like those are kind of just our big general thoughts on the game. I mean, we can go through quickly what the game breakdown was. We got the full Josh Manson experience tonight, I felt like I thought he had some really good moments and then he had some moments where like, Josh, what the fuck are you doing, dude? And evident with the first goal of the game giving up, it's like a back check by Jason Robertson. It should not result in a goal. I don't know what Josh Manson's doing on this play, man. - No, it's a turnover that just, it can't happen at this point again, because again, I thought the abs were the better team up to this point and out playing the stars. And it's just an awful turnover behind the net that ends up right out in front and Robertson to do Shane right to Joe Pavelski, because Joe Pavelski was not going five games against the average. - Correct. - This long is surprising. - Yeah, like that, more than anything shows his age right now is like, man, it's taking five games for his score against the abs. - He's slowing down finally. - And I guess time comes for assault the other day and no way he's not scoring this. It's a wide open net, there's nothing you can do. It's just a terrible play from Josh Manson who just is the ultimate live grenade right now where just you really don't know what to expect every single time the puck is near him. Is he gonna clear the puck and skate it into the zone by himself or is he going to just single-handedly give up a goal here and put his team in an impossible position? - And he did the ladder, like you just said. He treated it like a live grenade and it wound up in the back of the net. - Wasn't a great feeling. - Wasn't, but I thought the abs responded pretty well to it and they fought and suitor takes a penalty on my kid and holding the stick. It's a penalty man, like everyone's like, oh, you're selling it, it's like, have you not watched the stars in the series? - He's holding his stick, I don't know what to tell you here. - Like have you not seen the stars this entire series just diving like they've been hit by a fucking Mack truck whenever something touches them? - Yeah, that's good to that in the third period. But the abs get a power play and the power play shows signs of life and they end up going two for three. I'm gonna say they went two for two tonight because the last one. - They're not trying to score. - They aren't trying to score. So you get the goal, Nathan McKinnon in the waning seconds finds Arturi Leckenin and they were really trying to force feed that bumper slot today in today's game. They must have seen something in the film where it's like that has a chance to be open and it was open and Arturi Leckenin fires a perfect shot past Jake Ottinger, ties the game at one with 0.4 seconds left in the first period. And like you said earlier, the abs go in to the first intermission, not trailing, which is crazy. Like they didn't trail after a single period this game. That's a win and they got to open on top of it. - That in itself is a win. They weren't trailing going into the second period. They weren't trailing going into the third period. It's like, wow, this is a different game. We've been seeing recently. And again, that Leckenin goal, this team all season has been really good at finding that last minute goal. Like that last minute momentum-changing spirit-killing goal. It's been the catalyst for a lot of their comebacks in the regular season. A lot of those have been the second period, but I think this one was really just as important because if you don't get that again, you're going in, down, another goal. I still think they win, but you're going in the second down another goal, Dallas again, still on the lead because of a dumb mistake where we heard this story before. And now all of a sudden, it's a tie game. They're still playing really, really well. And you can work with that. I think that's just, they needed to see one go through the hoop. Otinger was looking really good to start the game. And it was just looked good to see like, okay, you can beat him. He's vulnerable. Not everything is going to be stopped every single time. - You can. And when you said that the apps have scored a lot of goals in last minute, they've also given up a lot of goals. In last minute of periods. So it was good to be. - It's a very love and hate relationship in the final minute this season. - It was good to see one go through and you go into the second period with a tie game. And I liked the way the apps played in that first period. Compared to the way they had played the previous four periods, it was nice just to see them play. - It's like that. - I loved your tweet when you were just like, the abs look like an NHL team and that's a win. 'Cause after the last four periods-- - They look like they're playing a whole different sport right now. Like, that was a massive, massive improvement for them. And then you go into the second period. I thought it was just a solid period by both teams. The stars get some momentum on a couple back-to-back shifts. The Jamie Benline and Wyatt Johnson and Logan Stank, COVID line was phenomenal tonight. That was the star's best line by a mile. They trap the abs in their own zone. Devon Taves just takes a terrible, terrible delay game penalty. And the stars proceed to get a 2-on-0 on the power play. - Man. - I have not seen a lot in my life. - I'm sure we've seen in the regular season for it to happen in game five of an elimination game. That's bad. - Yeah, it's really bad. - Black-in was really good in this game. That was a really bad read. Really bad read. I don't know how that happened. To give up a break away on the penalty kill, that means you are cheating so far up that somehow someone is behind you, let alone two people are behind you. - That's your gift supposed to do, man. - What do you want? - What do you want from your goalie here? - It's just, it was crazy, dude. And I was like, if they lose because of that, that's just gonna be a perfect microcosm of the season. Right there, that video of a 2-1-0 break away on the penalty kill. Like it's one thing if it happens on the power play and you're just get caught pinching, to give that up is just ludicrous, man. Like I've never seen anything like that and it just made me laugh super hard. Now that we won, like it makes me laugh. - Now it's funny. Now it's just funny. If it turned out to be the game when a goal would not have been very-- - Oh, we would have been on here just fucking being like, this is ridiculous. Fire in the special teams, coach. Like this has happened too many times. Like we would have been on it. But I mean, it's just a great play. Hayskin then gets the goal. And it's 2-1 and you're not feeling great. - Yeah, and again, the Tays delay a game, like it's just do literally anything else in that situation. The only worst thing you could do is fire it into your own net. Like just take the icing. Like if you have such a hard time clearing the puck and this is a thing I'll say later on the third goal. If you're so unconfident in your ability to clear the puck without throwing it over the glass, just ice it. - Yep, just ice it. Just ice it. - I'll take the icing. It's preferable. Do anything else. Just hold onto it and stand there. That's preferable. So you can at least let everyone back check before, after a two-minute shift in your own zone, you don't have to put your team on the penalty kill. It was a tired, unnecessary play from Tays who, in a game where a lot of people had really good games, Tays did not. - He looked like a guy who was still sick. - Yeah, he looked at the guy who is fighting and maybe half of his brain is just still clogged up by gunk. - Yeah, I mean, as a guy who's been fighting whatever this illness has been going around, it's really weird. You'll feel okay and then all of a sudden you'll feel like shit for like 30 minutes. It's just a, it's a really weird sickness going around. But yeah, he wasn't great tonight, but I thought he was still better than Caleb Jones by a lot. - So he even didn't take another penalty. - Yeah, I'll take bad Devon Taves over Caleb Jones any day of the week. And that's not a diss against Caleb Jones. It's just bad Devon Taves is still a top 30 defenseman in the league. - Yeah, yeah, that's just true. - Right, so it's just, I'll take that over anything. And the stars take the two-one lead. What was the, oh, Tanniff just fucking cross-checked Miko in the face after Taves was robbed by Otner. I can't believe that that play happened. That's after the whistle. - It draws blood, it's a high sticking call, but it's only two minutes. - It was weird 'cause we got two things wrong here 'cause one, it was a cross-check. And two, if you're calling it a high stick and there's blood, it's a double minor. - Right. - So you're wrong on both counts. - Right. - I appreciate you calling it, which I was even a little surprised by. And I just think they weren't gonna call anything in this game, but yeah, there's an undisciplined play by Tanniff and like Ranton had just had like a little bit of fire in him for three seconds and draws this penalty. And I still don't know why it wasn't a double minor, but it didn't matter 'cause-- - It didn't matter. - Scored on the power play for the second time in this game. And again, Kale McCar just, he's such treat to watch on the power play. Like I can compare him to another number eight in my life, Alex Ovechkin, where the difference is like with Ovechkin, you can see it coming from a mile away with Kale. He just stops and all of a sudden the puck is just top corner. I've never seen any player in my lifetime just have that one particular ability to just rip a shot with such accuracy from so far out with a wrist shot. It's so dangerous. And if you're not in the way of it, like there's nothing else you can do. - Well, and I think the key on the school is there's traffic in front of Ottinger. He had no idea where that puck was going. None, none. So it was a key point that we had brought up after games three, game four, game one, game two. Like after everything, it's get bodies in front of Ottinger. And then the stars can block as many shots as they want. There's going to be some that get through and you need to have bodies in front of Ottinger. And I thought they have to do a better job of it. And I think it was Miko and Lecky in front of him on this one. And it's a perfect shot by Kale McCarra and the game's tied it to. - Yeah, it's just an absolutely perfect play. And just shows more buy-ins. Just a little more effort, a little more attention to detail, which is just what I was desperately begging for in the last two games. Like just show me you care like a little bit. Just like get to the net on the power play or not on the power play. Just get to the net at all even. And on this one, they do that. And they get to the net. They cause, they make it hard for Ottinger to make stops. And then they shatter his confidence a little bit that he's not unbeatable. And then that sets up a third period where you get some goals that are not great for him to give up. - I'd say the middle stat one, I'm not gonna blame him too much. This, like we mentioned earlier, the play by Zach Parisi on this to just bat that puck over to Casey Milstad. And the awareness for Milstad to bank it in off of Ottinger. Huge, gives the abs their first lead of the series. Their first lead of the series, we're in game five third period and they have to get their first lead of the series. - I'm so glad we brought this up 'cause the broadcast sure didn't the entire time. They never once brought up that, the add the lead in this series. That got really annoying after the first 10 minutes. - Yeah. I mean, that was just, that's how dominant the Dallas Stars have been. It's like, okay, I mean, yeah, it'd be great. - You have any other talking points on your bulletins for today, is there anything else we can talk? We understand, great, awesome. Talk about literally anything else. Take some more notes on your note cards and have some other talking points. Not getting into it again, but. - Not getting into it, but they get their first lead of the series and for the first time, the abs get to play with the lead. And it's just, it's a different way of playing and the Stars can't be as safe as they wanna be. I think the abs had more odd man rushes in these final 10 minutes of the game than they had had in the first four combined because the Stars were forced to break out of their shell and pinch in a defenseman every once in a while. Sure, it made them a little bit more dangerous, but it also made them more vulnerable. And that's, if you can do that in game six and just have them play from behind, you're going to have a good chance of winning in these games. - The abs did a good job of falling back into the 1-2-2 with a passive defense, which sounds bad on paper. You don't wanna play a quote unquote passive defense, but it works. That's what Dallas did in the last couple of games. It's something that Vegas is really good at too. It's something that Vegas did to the abs in that playoff series in '21. And the abs, they just continued to make Dallas pay. And again, this play by Kale McCar on the blue line of just working his way past Tyler Sagan with that beautiful move and just puts it right through Thomas Harley and right through Ottinger's legs. And all of a sudden it's a two-goal lead just like that. That's just what we haven't seen in this series where they're just at one point just poured on and just you feel like you're coming up against a tide where there's not a lot that you can do. And this is a bad one for Ottinger to give up, but you get to this point by getting three really hardworking goals that kind of break his confidence a little bit. 'Cause I have noticed that from Jake Ottinger in his career. It's like when he's on, he's on, but you can break him. And when you break him, there are some moments where the lights can get a little too bright for him. And he just seems just unsure of himself. - That goal was bad. That was a really bad goal for him to give up. And I think for Raro said on the broadcast, he was like, he's guessing one way. I'm like, he got beat five hole. Like, what are we talking about here? - One way or the other? You're wrong. - Right, he gets wrong on both accounts. So they have to take a four, two lead. You're thinking, okay, maybe it won't be a butthole crunch in time. The entire third rest of the game. I thought you were waving at me saying like, I did something wrong. And I was like, wait a second. Something happened to the computer. No, the abs treat the puck like a live grenade. Once again, again, I don't know what Devontades is doing. He just rips that pass, Nathan McKinnon hops over his stick. And I believe, was it Esselindale who fired the shot? - Yes. - It was Lindell. And Stankovin, that's just a great tip. Right, that is just a masterful tip by Stankovin. I think he's above the face-off circle. And again, nothing your gift can do. Nothing he can do. And in the blink of an eye, it's four, three. And you're like, fuck, like we're gonna have to sweat this one out. We are going to sweat. - Like yeah. Talking about like, just ice it again. This is one, I'm like, just ice it. - There's no one around him, just hold on to the puck. - Yeah, but like if you're gonna do this week pass up the middle, which again, Dallas has probably scored like four goals on this series. If you're not confident in that, just slap shot it and get it out, take the fucking icing at this point. It gets on here so much when this team can't clear the zone. Oh my God, it bothers me so much that they just can't get the puck out. And it's, I swear, it is counted for like 75 of Dallas's goals this series. - I'm gonna laugh so hard when there's one day, like we have kids and we're gonna be coaching them in hockey and we're just gonna be like, it's just gonna be the worst fundamental team as well as be like, if you break your stick, just leave the ice right away and go pick up a new one. Ice the puck as many times as you can if you can't feel like you can't make a bet. Like everyone's gonna be watching like these coaches are fucking idiots and we'd be like, yeah, you're right, we are idiots. Like that's just not surprising news here. - Well, not in the least bit, but it's less than, it's like a minute 15 after camel cars goal made it a two goal game and he's still got like 15 minutes left. And I was in the process of tweeting 15 minutes is a lot of time, let's not give up. Okay, so then that one ends up in the back of the net. It's a good tip by Stankov. It's a good play from Dallas. It's a good hands up play by Lindell, Stankov and just good hands and good awareness to tip that puck in and you're a little nervous going into the rest of the game 'cause you are back in the one, two, two, but you just, you can't make any more mistakes. The rest of the game. - And they didn't, I mean, they did, they took some, they took some penalties. One of them was just like watching it live. I was like, well, lucky, that was a really bad cross check. And then you finally see the replay of it and you go, oh my God, he just felt like he barely touched him. And he dove like a little bitch. So yeah, I've getting into that off. I'm trying to think of like a trade joke on the tip of my tongue that's not coming to me. He dove and the stars get a power play. And, huh? - It was the dov, you're right there. - Yeah, it was the dov, right? Okay, I was like, my brain's not tripping me. But that penalty kill was very good. A very good penalty kill by the abs after the disaster that happened on the previous one. The stars had a couple chances. You were a gift made the big saves and the abs were able to clear the puck and they kill off the penalty. And I think in a way I knew once they killed that, I was like, okay, I'm feeling a little bit more confident about this game that they're gonna be able to pull this out. - That was a momentum killer 'cause you had the goal by Stan Coben and then pretty much right after that, you had the power of the stars where it's like, this is the moment for the stars and if the abs give this up here, it's gonna be incredibly deflated. Probably at very least the series right here. You're giving, if you're playing this well and still giving up four goals, then you're just shooting yourself in the foot death by a thousand cuts. But like you said, fantastic penalty kill and stars get some looks. None of them super dangerous. None of them too bad the rest of the way. And they kill enough time and liken in just a great work to get into the zone here. Just a great hard work and play to get that puck in. He drops it to Nathan McKinnon and they, I think they just kind of forgot about him. They've not given Nathan McKinnon this much space the entire series and he rifles it right past Jay Gottinger, makes it five to three before even at the empty net. - Yeah, before even at the empty net and I think it just goes back to the point where the stars had to get out of their defensive system. I think they had all three forwards deep and McKinnon just burned him out of his own and let him in with a great hard working play. And he finds McKinnon and it's like, that's probably the one guy on the abs, maybe him rancing him a car that you don't want to give a wide open shot from the middle of the ice at the face off dots. Probably get in poorly. - Chancy scoring on that. - Right, pretty good chance he scoring on that and he puts the nail in the coffin and the game was over. Grand and Miko took a terrible penalty. They killed off, Dallas gets busted for too many men on the ice and the rest of the game just goes by and we're talking about the app going into game six, man. Like, I'm feeling good. I'm feeling positive about it. We have both joked on this show about the superstitions we do. Before we started recording, just an insight into the show, Griffin and I were saying, "We're gonna have to repeat everything we did today, aren't we?" Like, everything we did. So there's gonna be a lot of things that I will do the same on Friday, most importantly. I hope you saw I got to McDonald's. I did have McDonald's today. First time in two months, I've had no. I had to that game one. It's been a minute. - We stopped doing it because it was game one against Winnipeg was the last time. - Yeah, it was rough. I still have Harper and I have my trusty thumbs sitting right next to me at the desk I'm recording. But yeah, I'm gonna have to do that again for Friday, which I feel better about it that the game's a little bit later and I can eat a little bit later in the day. Eating McDonald's at 5.30 is just setting yourself up for a really long night. At least if you have it later at night, you can like sleep through some of it. So are we McDonald's? You'll be trying something new. You'll be cooking yourself something new. The same superstitions will apply. It's gonna be the exact same thing. - I didn't say it on the show yet, but my superstition now, I had a theory going into today. It was like during the Winnipeg series, I was just in a cooking mood. And I was making all bunch of new stuff and I'm pretty sure I made one before every single win. I'm pretty sure I couldn't be 100% but I know for game one against Dallas, I made a new chocolate chip cookie recipe. First of all, fucking fantastic, by the way. One of the greatest things I've ever made. I brought them to work and they were gone in two hours. And I made that before game one. And for the next few games, I wasn't thinking about it. So it's just, I didn't make anything. It was just simple, simple like, you know, omelettes and stuff like stuff I've made before, but today I was like, okay, I have a theory. So I tried ribs in the air fryer for the first time. I got a good like half rack of ribs, maybe a little smaller than that. Tried to make them the air fryer for the first time. Something I've never done before, I was like, okay. I'm gonna see if this works and it did. So my theory is I gotta make something new every single game from here on for as long as it works. It can be a food I've had before. It just can't be a recipe that I've ever tried before. This is what I do, by the way, for people that don't know me. I make a lot of food in my spare time. - Yeah, I mean, it's just, it's not crazy if it works. - It's not, it's not crazy if it works. Like it's just, you were talking about that and I'm like, yeah, that makes complete sense. Like this is, that's just exactly what I would do. I mean, I fucking eat McDonald's. And I'm just probably a little bit healthier for you, but it works. It's not stupid if it works. Like that's what drives me crazy about that NHL commercial with superstitions. It's like, you didn't even get like the right superstitions if you're gonna make about superstitions. Like just do the right, like do normal stuff like normal fans do. - We all talk about like the Dabs version of that commercial and how dumb it is. I hate the Vegas one even more. Like dog, that was your second year as a team and you're out of breath in the tattoo parlor. Be like, this is it, man. This is our year getting the tattoo. Like you are either insane or this is just not at all how people act in there. - It would be even, like it would have been funnier if they did like a Maple Leafs one. - Yeah. - I was like, why Vegas of all teams? That one doesn't make any, especially 2019 second year. Even if you are a long suffering waiting for hockey to come to Vegas, you were in the Stanley Cup final last year and we're gonna be doing like, this is it, man. This is our year. I believe this is your second year. - There's so many better ones you could do. Like you could have done the caps. Like all the years they lost to the penguins. You could have done a great for that. And said you do that. Yeah, the marketing team was just like, this will be funny. Like Vegas won the Stanley Cup, so it'll make sense. But it doesn't have the same impact 'cause Vegas won last year. - Right. - I got the happy ending after all. It doesn't make any sense. - Yeah. - I think they literally just went, all right, who are two most recent Stanley Cup champions? Let's make two commercials about them. - Right. And then also Nashville thrown in there too. - Very weird. Like I would have thought Detroit. - But that's the good one. That's the best, that's the best commercial and I don't know. - Yeah, it's stupid. But yeah, superstitions. Definitely a thing. I'm gonna be doing it. I'm breaking out my second like, opening case of emergency. I'm gonna be doing face paint. In this case, full body paint. I tweeted this out. If, and by full body, I mean just my chest. Like I'm not gonna do, like come on, that's gross. We'll do full chest paint. If you are someone who is good at that and want to do it for free, I have the paints. I just need someone to do it for me. So slide into my DMs. That sounded weird, but just send me a DM on Twitter to let me know if you can do it. Because I'm-- - Volunteer to paint me. - Yeah, that is kind of weird. It's a weird ask. It's definitely weird to ask. And I'm glad a lot of the Twitter followers we have and the people listening to show understand the context behind it. Because from afar, it's like, why is this dude asking someone to paint him? Like, that's fucking weird. - Come to my house. - Yeah, let's meet in a parking lot and you can paint me. Like, that's weird, but a lot of the-- - This is where I'm gonna park. Come meet me and like borrow it and try to paint. - You can paint me. So yeah, that'll be fun. It was funny to see that the altitude crew got just a shit ton of McDonald's delivered. I was like, that's great to see. Love that, good for them. And the superstitions are running wild and then we're gonna keep doing them. - We're gonna-- - You didn't cover all of them yet. You bet against the abs. - I did bet against the abs. That was a price I was glad to pay for my happiness. Like that, the way I look at it is, yeah, I lost, I lost my normal wager amount, which I'm not gonna disclose because who cares what I gamble. I lost that, but I bought myself happiness for the next 24 or 48 hours. And that's all I care. You can't win, that's all that is. You're paying to win. - And I will do that again. - You gotta sell it for relayers of a pretty big superstition going into game six. - Very much so, very much so. So I'm gonna keep doing it. But any other thoughts about game five before we move on to the preview for game six? - I mean, just inarguably their most complete game of the series, I mean, obviously some portions of the game were better than others, but this was the best 60-minute performance that they've had. And most of the time, as long as this team is close going into the third period, they're setting themselves up for success. The obvious exceptions being games three and four of the series where they just looked at completely different teams. But throughout the playoffs, they've been fantastic in the third period. They just have to set themselves up for success first. And I hope for game six at the very least, they score the first goal and are forcing Dallas to have to play from behind 'cause they looked uncomfortable. - They did. - Well, I don't know. Maybe if you hold it, maybe if you hold all your best hockey until the last three games of the series, you're playing possum with them and they don't know how to react. - Yeah, who knows? Who knows? I completely agree. If they ask me at the first goal, we can move on to the game six preview. - I was like, let's also not do the Seattle thing where Seattle scores in all, scores first in all seven games of that series where it's like, that's never happened before. Let's not be doing that two years in a row. - Correct, correct. It's very hard to come back and win games as we saw with the Seattle last year. It doesn't, it's not a good recipe for success. So I completely agree with everything you just said. We look at game six. I think the first 10 minutes of that game are going to be huge. If the apps can get a goal in those first 10 minutes and get Dallas out of their zone, the building's going to be rocking, the pom-poms are going to be flying. If you can get a goal in those first 10 minutes and just get not just head a little bit, I think it's going to be a very, very massive thing for them. And we've seen in the third periods, the apps have been the better team and a majority of the third periods granted, games three and four of those games were over. So like, yeah, they were the better team, I say with quotations, but-- - Well, game three was two to one, but they just didn't show up for that period. For some bizarre reason, they just were not there to play, but in all the period they've shown up to play and they've pretty regularly scored two to three goals in each of them. - Yep, and they're going to be facing elimination again, which is a hell of a drug and a hell of an adrenaline burst to get you through the game. So I'm feeling good. I think McKinnon has another big night. I think McCar is another big night, but I'm going to say something and I'm going to say it again like I did in the last episode, I want you all to know what I'm doing here. I want you all to know what I'm doing. I think the stars win five to two. And it's a three to two game late, they get two empty nethers and they win five to two. Once again, I'm going to say it, you know what I'm trying to do. - Well, we're going to hold you to that personally, professionally, we're going to hold you to that every single time. But here's the thing going into game six. There's a lot of negativity around the apps coming into this game from obviously the apps fan base and just national media is like lack of leadership, depth and lack of just anything, lack of vibe. Like people were burying this team before the game started. And before this game was even over, you're seeing people talking about Dallas's road record. Oh, they're so good on the road. Best road team in the NHL. Surely they're going to be able to win a third game in Colorado and close out this series. And then when the abs win game six on Friday, it's going to shift all Pete to boards undefeated in game seven and Dallas, they've won so many game sevens last several years. They beat the abs in a game seven, four years ago now at this point, there's always going to be a reason to why the abs can't do this. That people are just going to perpetuate over the next two games. I say fuck all that. The abs are going to win game six, three to one. And they're going to have a great defensive effort. Your give is going to have himself a massive night. I think McKinnon's going to have a goal. I think someone in the depth is going to have to have a big goal. It just feels like Ross Colton is building towards something. I think he's building towards a moment in his career, whereas just he's going to get a big, big goal. So that's going to be my out there prediction is that Ross Colton's going to have his moment in this game. And whether it's an empty net or not, I think the abs win this game three to one, I think they cut down on the mistakes. And your give has another great night. Like he has all series and they hold the stars to one goal, which I think is going to be the most important part of that in an entire game and force a game seven, where again, you're going to see a lot of the Pete DeBore, undefeated kind of thing, like, oh, he beat Seattle and he beat Vegas over the last two years. I say he's due. I say he's overdue. - He's due. And we didn't really talk about this because the game happened, but Jakob Trenton got hurt in this game. There's still no update on him. We were talking off air. How cool would it be? This is not going to happen. I don't want anyone thinking about it. - He's got to stop giving people hope, man. - I know. It's not going to happen, but Gabe Landyskog just suits up and takes one shift. That's it. Hey, he doesn't play the rest of the game. I don't see the harm in that. But I do, on a more serious note-- - A few harms, but go ahead. - In a serious note, Gabriel Landyskog will be there and at an important part of the game, they will show him on the Jumbotron and it'll get the crowd fucking buzzing. It'll get the crowd buzzing. Trenton may not huge. Hopefully he can play in game six. Massive on the penalty kill. And it's an upper body, so you just never know. But Jakob is massive for this. I'm not going to say it's like a detrimental blow, but losing another depth guy is not a good thing. - Yeah, it's just so many guys eventually missing for you. And for Trenton, I don't have high hopes. I hope he can play, but he only played two minutes in this game. Only a couple of shifts goes out in the first period. And then the update we got before the third is he's still being evaluated. - Right. - Body injury, which is concerning, 'cause they had most of the game to look at him and they're still evaluating it over like an hour and a half later, which does not, to me, spell good news. I hope I'm wrong, but I certainly hope that he's available because as much shit as the abs depth gets for some reason, Trenton is a really important part of that bottom six. - Very important to the penalty kill as well. So we'll have to see with that. Robey Hintz, it sounds like he's still day to day. I think he probably plays game six. You had Sagan limping off the ice, I'm sure he'll be fine, but it's gonna be a hell of a game. And I just want on record, you all know what I'm trying to do with my prediction. I don't want to be held accountable for him. - I mean, don't keep putting it out there, otherwise it doesn't mean that. - True, true. But I'm excited for it, man. It's gonna be a fun Friday night. We don't have to worry about staying up late 'cause it's Friday, so who gives a shit? - You make the rules. You know, we get to stay up late and drink root beer all night, no bad times. - Exactly, exactly. So I'm feeling good. I don't think I have any other abs thoughts unless you do. We can quickly jump around the NHL. - I mean, I just, I feel good about this performance. Ultimately, I think it's repeatable. They did not show me anything that stuck out as a fluke or anything like that. They showed good, strong power play performances. I think they're gonna need some like actual depth scoring to get over the hump in this series. I think McKinnon and McCar can do all they want. I think they're gonna have great games in game six. I think Dallas is going to adjust back to their games again. I think it is gonna have to be a Ross Colton. Like in game one, Miles Wood, be in the hero that comes through for you in the end. Like maybe someone on your fourth line that comes through. I think you just need an unlikely hero, either in six or seven, to be the guy that ultimately finishes this series. Like that one small critique, the depth was good in this game. You just wanna see some finish. 'Cause Dallas' depth is very good and they will. - It's very good, yeah. - You need them to look dangerous. I'm not asking for a goal, but just be dangerous. Be something that's not just a defensive shift. - Yeah, it's miles better than it was in the Seattle series. - Yes. - Were completely ineffective. Like they are doing things in the series. They look good. I think they just, they need to finish on something. And yeah, it's hard because Parisi is up on the second line now and they're just constantly continuing to lose guys, losing Trenton is gonna be an important thing. I wonder who they replace him with. - Probably Wagner. - Yeah, I think Wagner, it just seems like a lot to put on Kovalenko's plate. - Oh, you're not putting Kovalenko in the series. No chance. Like how deep Dallas is, no chance. - It's like, he's got the higher ceiling for sure, but it just doesn't feel like the appropriate time. - Not yet. - Where just, this feels more like a Chris Wagner series than it does a Kovalenko series, which is the boring answer, I know. But I think just Jared Bednar is going to trust Chris Wagner more in this situation. Then Nikolai Kovalenko, and they're gonna work with him in training camp this season and try to get the most out of him for next year. But I'm interested to see what they do with it. I hope Trenton is available, but I'm excited for game six. They didn't lose force straight in this series, which would have been a very disappointing end to the season, what's been a very interesting season to say the least. So you fight on, now you're back home for game six and... - Anything can happen. - You win one game, it's a game seven. And then it's a coin flip at that point. I'll give a fuck about Pete DeBorgh's record. He does not have magic secret sauce to game seven. He's coached good teams in one game seven. So it's fucking Whoop D. - Whoop D-D-U Basil, but I'm excited, man. Let's end the show real quick. I think there's only one NHL game or two, there are two games. You talked about one of them. The Panthers can't close out the Bruins. Jeremy Swamman is phenomenal. And the Bruins get a 2-1 win. They force a game six tonight by the time you're listening to it. I still think Florida's gonna win that game six, but that series just got a whole lot more interesting. As it feels like the Panthers really squandered an opportunity to close that series out. - Yeah, the Bruins played really well in that game. They had a very good response. And Jeremy Swamman again, the Bruins are a fine team. It's hard, it's really hard to lose four straight games in the playoffs. Like you just, it doesn't happen all that much, right? Sweeps are rare. And even gentlemen, sweeps like the As pulled off in the first round are relatively rare, especially as you get later in the playoffs. Teams are just too good for stuff like that. The Bruins made their adjustments. And with how much weight has been in this series, it would have been wrong to wrap this thing up in five. We gotta bring this thing back to Boston for a game six and see if Bradmarshan's good enough to play. And if he comes back, things are gonna get spicy. And again, you have the reverse storyline where last year, Florida down 31 to Boston and Florida goes into Boston, wins game five and wins game six, wins game seven. Now the Bruins have the opportunity to do that themselves. I mean, it's drama, it's fun, it's good stuff. - It's good stuff. - Yeah, every series going at least six in the second round and all of these series have absolutely delivered. I think you can make a legitimate case that Av stars has been the worst one, which is-- - Yeah, 100%. 100%. I would agree with that. It's been the worst series in that same way 'cause it's still been good. - That guy's been saying it's been a bad series. - Right. - Two games in Colorado were terrible. Every other game, it feels like in every other series, like there's been some blowouts in the Florida series for sure, but there's just been so much like juice that series, so much hate that it's made up for it. And the Rangers Hurricane series, the only one that wasn't a one gold game was the last one for Carolina and they've won two in a row. Now, I did not realize that before Dallas last year, you did not even have a team win two games after being down three nothing since the 2016 Flyers and not realize it's been that long. - That is cool, that is cool. But yeah, hurricanes, we talked about that one after the game, they'll play tonight by the time you're listening to this. Actually, the Panthers Bruins game is the game before the apps, so they don't play again till Friday. - Yeah, we'll still know. - Yeah, we'll still know. And then moving over to the Western Conference, probably the best game of the playoffs so far, that game four between Edmonton and Vancouver was a really, really fun game. I didn't get, I got to watch the highlights, it was just on too late for me and I was watching the Nuggets game. - But I got worried when Besser tied that game, I was like, oh, I'm going to lose, probably a solid hour of sleep. - Right, right. And so for those who didn't get to watch Brock Besser scores, the Canucks score two in the third period to tie the game at three. And the Oilers are thinking, there's no way they go down three one, like that would just be put the nail in the coffin. They get a goal from Evan Bouchard with what? 30 seconds left. - Yep, 39 seconds left where the Brock Besser shot goes off to Kota Joshua with less than two minutes left to tie the game at two. Edmonton was up two to nothing going into the third period. They start Calvin Pickard in this game instead of Stuart Skinner. And so again, Joshua ties that game off of the Besser's shot off of his skates. And you're thinking, all right, we're going to overtime again in this series. And a minute later, Evan Bouchard shot from the point goes right through She-Lov and Edmonton ties the series. - Ties the series at two. This has been a weird series 'cause I feel like Edmonton's been better than them the entire time. But it's still tied at two. And Vancouver's just gutsy, man. That team just fights. They'll just fight. And I like Vancouver a lot. I still think Edmonton's going to win this series, but God damn have these games been entertaining. - This is the most destined for seven series I've ever seen. If this thing ends in six, that's a disgrace right now. This has to go seven games. This has been the best series of the entire playoffs so far. And it's been rare that you've even had series B22. It's the only second one. The other one was Dallas and Vegas in the first round. Every other series has either been a sweep for the Rangers or three to one. - Yep. - So it's good to at least see a good back and forth series going on right now. I wish I could confidently say Edmonton was going to win it. But Vancouver, they just keep fighting and they're getting the boost from She-Lovs right now. Again, I love the playoffs so much where Connor Hellebuck, worst goalie of the playoffs. Archer She-Lovs, guy who I just did not know existed coming into this thing is one of the best stories. And this like happens regularly. It's so funny. - It's a normal thing. So like you said, I have no idea what that series is going to go. Game five is tomorrow night. I wish it was, no, I don't know. I wish it was on earlier, but I will still watch it. And I still think the other is win, but that's just been a hell of a series. And I don't think there's anything else, man, NHL wise. It's nice to be wrapping up an episode at 11 p.m. instead of 1 a.m. - Yeah, it's not even 1 a.m. yet. I might be able to get some decent hours of sleep here. - Yeah, that's how I'm feeling. So I don't have anything else, man. We're going to be back Friday night after the game, which feels great to say because I thought we were going to have to be playing and when our next show is going to be. At least now we have a plan. - Yeah, we got a plan. We're back for game six. So like I said before, game five. Every game is game seven. And you got another game seven coming up in game six here. And if you win that game seven, you force another game seven, which is an actual game seven coming up for game seven in Dallas. So, but you got to get there first. You're only a third of the way there. One win is not enough. Two wins is not enough. You need three. Gets you, if you don't get three, it gets you the same result if you lost today anyway. So it's not over yet. You're going to need another repeat performance from the SAVS team. I think they can do it. I really do think that they can do it in this game. This is a team that is good at coming back and good at being able to turn momentum where if they get their fastball in this series, Dallas can't beat them. We've seen it, Dallas can't beat them. I don't think anyone can beat them when the abs are fully at their best. And it's going to be hard to do it, especially if Trenen is not available. You're going to be without Val for the rest of the playoffs. Obviously, no Landy, obviously no Logan O'Connor. You're going to need to keep showing some guts. You're going to need to keep fighting for your life. Every single shift. And they did a great job of that in game five. Now you got to go do it again. I think one of the good things from this game five is it wasn't like an adrenaline dump kind of way where you tie it late and it goes to over time. Like you scored three goals. Yeah, it was close for most of the game. It was four, three going into it, but it wasn't like a super, you're leaving it all out there and dumping all your energy, just trying to get this one win and save your season. You took care of business. You took care of business in this game. It saves some energy for game six. And now you're going to go back out there and try to save your season for a second time. And hopefully we're talking after the game on Friday, talking about a game seven coming up on Sunday, it would be. I imagine it'd be Sunday. I think it is Sunday, it's already scheduled, but there's no two day breaks. Yeah, so that there would be a game seven on Sunday. And this is why we're all here. You know, it's easy to get down when you're down three, one in the series and be like, it's over, this team sucks. It's not over until a team wins four times. And the abs are a tough team to put away. Tough team to put away. Can't wait for game six on Friday. Yep, should be a great one. I'm looking forward to it. I'm juice for that game. I'm ready. I really do think they're going to do this. I don't care if I'm wrong and it gets thrown back in my face. What's the point of being a fan if you don't think they can do this? That's why we're here. That's why we're all here. We're here for these moments where your team has a 3-1 comeback on route to a Stanley Cup. If you don't think they can do this, you're not forced to watch. They really not be delusional. Be blind, be happy. If they lose, be mad and upset. But this is what it is all about at the end of the day. There are going to have to be times for champions when they have to overcome a lot, when they have to just figure it out and gut out a comeback win. And I think they can do it. I don't care if I'm wrong. I don't care if I'm freezing cold takes exposed. I will always go down optimistically swinging. - Positive odds only. That's the way to put it. - That's the way it is. So I'm ready to wrap this one up here unless you've had any Eureka moments in the final few seconds here. - No, no Eureka moments. Just locked in for game six. - Locked in for game six. Love to hear it. So we are going to wrap this one up here. Thank you all so very much for tuning in. As always, you can use promo code TELLITABZITIS on Seakeake for $20 off your first order of $50 or more. You're going to follow us on Twitter. You can follow me @GYoungs in a shell. You can follow Christian @Christian_balla and you can follow the show @TELLITABZIT is. But again, thank you all so very much for tuning in. The abs are still standing and we will catch you all next time. But until then, let's go abs. (upbeat music) (upbeat music) (upbeat music) [BLANK_AUDIO]
