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Episode 1351 - From Royal Marines To Royal Weddings

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16 May 2024
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Dean Stott, a former soldier in the British Special Boat Service (SBS), joins the show to talk about cycling the entirety of South and North America (and setting a world record doing it), his friendship with Prince Harry and how it began in the British military, and his horrific parachute accident that ended his military career. 


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And you were probably one of the S.A.S. in the UK, which is a tier one Special Forces unit. S.A.S. is actually the same selection process as the S.A.S. so in the U.S. it's the equivalent of Dev Group. But with a silent brother, we don't write as many books. Sure. Yeah. Sure. You fucking liar. He's a fucking tugboat captain, dude. Yeah. Well, I mean, he's more likely to take an S.V. or S.D.V. underneath the tugboat and put explosives on it and then swim away and let it blow up. I'm not convinced. I'm not convinced. I think you've got a sweet shaved head. You've got a fucking English accent, a British accent. And you want us to believe that you're something other than a tugboat captain and sorry. I'm not going to do it today. I'm not going to do it. Jason Stavin with a tugboat. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So instead of the beekeeper, by the way, I've watched the beekeeper. It's pretty good. Well, if you enjoy the cheesiness, I would love it. Not only is it good, not only is the movie itself pretty decent, but the concept is also good. Should I spoil this for everybody? Yeah, dude. He's a beekeeper. So a beekeeper is like a fucking operator that's trained by some, either a country or a global force of some sort. And they're crazy people. Like when something goes off the rails and it's a threat to society, they operate autonomously and to start fucking people up. And then they just go on back to their regular job, whatever it happened to be. Well, his was a beekeeper. Yeah. But it's like a sleeper cell guy. But he's an operator that works collectively for good. So not only do I think it was a decent movie, I think there's probably going to be quite a few sequels to this. I hope so. My kids loved it. I'm not going to get additional beekeepers. Probably more. Like he's going to, he's going to run into other beekeepers. Get us a keeper in there. It's a little on the nose. They call the people beekeepers, and he's a literal beekeeper. I don't think that's going to, like they're going to have to switch that up at some point but otherwise. Nah, Dean. I think we're good. You know, look, it seems like you're friends with everybody over there. I'm looking at a picture of you in Prince Harry. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So him and I, him and I, mate, over 17 years ago, we won a JTAC course in the military. And we've just maintained friendships ever since. So yeah, wherever I do, wherever I go, I always loops back to Prince Harry, you know, my ginger friend. Well, you don't have a choice, like, because we're all fascinated with everything that he's got going on here in America for a different reason. But when you're friends with him in real life and you know him, what's his, what's his sis like? Is he normal or not? Yeah. Yeah. Without that, I said in 17, we met each other August 2007. So long before I'd even met my wife before he even even met Meghan. And so yeah, he was 23 years old, his young second lieutenant in the military. And at the end of the day, he was just a normal guy, just in a family, which is the world he's got his eyes on. So when I knew him in the military, I'd probably say it's the closest he's been to some sort of normality. You know, he wasn't being judged by his decisions and actually it was actually a good, a good operator. It was a good officer. It was confident. And so I'd say that was probably where he's most comfortable. But being who he is, you know, the spotlight is always on him. But behind closed doors, yeah, he's a good guy. That's pretty wild, man. So if he wouldn't have gotten taken off, because I believe he got taken off, right, when he was fighting in the Middle East, yeah, he deployed to Afghanistan. And once it was once it came out that he was a JTAC, right, like for the Ford unit, the bounty went up from the Taliban. And that was the end of that. He had to get that to get the fuck out of there. I think the world the world's media had a curfew that they yeah, they weren't allowed to embargo. Sorry. I didn't embargoed it now to announce it and about 10 weeks into his tour, an Australian media outlet release that he was there. So it wasn't so much the bounty on him, but it was the fact that all those around him as well were at high risk. So yeah, he had to deploy home from that. And he then trained up to be a helicopter pilot and then went Apache gunship and then redeployed again on a second tour as an Afghan pilot. No, that's why William did he was an Apache pilot, but he only I think he only deployed to the Falklands, right? I don't think he ever deployed to the GW from that mistaken. No, no, he deployed the Falklands with his uncle Andrew back in the Falklands was a pilot in the Royal Navy as well. But no, Harry went back and did a second. No, I mean, I mean his older brother, William, I think William was also a pilot, right? Yeah, yeah. William was a pilot. So what people didn't realize is because William is going to be the future king. William spent six months in the army in the Navy and in the Air Force because he's the king, he has to obviously have an understanding of his chess pieces. So he moved from different armed services, but in each of those, he was a pilot. And I think his final one was actually Air Ambulance, he was doing air ambulance stuff in the Navy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if, let's see, he flew to Afghanistan and see something. I wonder if you can give me some insight on this. So in the United States, the commander in chief of the armed forces is the president. Who is the commander in chief of the UK armed forces? Who's King Charles? Who's King Charles? Really? Yeah. It's King Charles. I mean, it's like it's a constitutional monarchy, right? A parliamentary system. Yeah. So the king day to day doesn't have the same kind of power that we think of as a king, right? Historically speaking, but they are still the commander in chief of the armed forces. The commander in chief. Yeah. So if you see the, obviously it used to be the queen and you know, the cap badges as, you know, it was ER now at CR. So that's that. And if you do our over the legions, yours, I think yours is to the flag and the country of the United States. It's to the constitution. The constitution. When I did it was to the queen and all her family as well, though within it. So yeah, it's a different one. It's very archaic and old, but, and then probably one of the oldest militaries in the world yet. And you were talking about Andrew earlier. How many times was he deployed to Epstein Island? Yeah. Probably more times in Falklands. Okay. Look, I'm a big fan of his, not for the Epstein for the puppets. For the puppets. Yeah. Did you hear that used to use a puppet? It was a puppet of himself. He had a puppet made that looked like himself. And that's what he allegedly used to touch sexually to touch other women was the puppet. So it was him and then he had a puppet of himself on his, on his right hand, which was fun. Wow. No, I'm not heard that. I know he, I know he had the likes and collection of Teddy bears in his bed. Oh boy. Yeah. And for a grown man. Yeah. That's how you lure him in to the bedroom is with the teddy bears and then you put the puppet on your hand. All right. We should get a shirt. We should make a shirt, black shirt, white letters and it just says free candy. Oh god. What do you think? Dean, are you good with that? I'll, and we'll make a little tugboat captain shirt for you too. What kind of a. A captain. Yeah. Yeah. A tugboat captains are like, it's like the beekeeper sleeper cell. You know, you don't mess with a tugboat captain. Yeah. It really is. But you've had a crazy fucking life. The tier one special forces operator, two time world record breaker in cycling. Is that true? It is true. Yeah. It's a, I'd never cycle before. I'd only cycled 20 miles when I applied for the world record. And it was the world's longest road, which runs from Southern Argentina to Northern Alaska, which is 14,000 miles. And actually going back to Harry, Harry and I did a lot of charity work together behind the scenes. And so he was the first person I rang when I, when Guinness came back and said I'd been successful on the application. And him and his brother and Kate were just about launched a campaign around mental health, everything from young children, teenagers all the way through to the veterans. And so yeah, I did it for their charity was called heads together. The world record was 117 days. I trained for a year, broke the world record by 17 days at the age of 41, became the first man in history to do 100 days. And my wife raised $1.4 million for the charity. So yeah, it was something to keep myself physically and mentally engaged. Jesus Christ. That's pretty fucking intense. A hundred days on the road, do you have kids and a family? Yeah, I have kids. We have three kids now. But at the time back in 2018, I had my daughter would have been, she would have seven and my son was nearly two years old. But my wife was the campaign director, you know, we, we're business partners. We're doing together. She, she sort of coordinated all the behind the scenes. I did the fundraising and I, I did the bike ride and, you know, she sort of joked, I had the easiest job. I probably did. Yeah. Having done many fundraisers myself, yeah, you probably did a fucking asshole. I'll do it. I'm kidding. But how do you, how do you seriously approach your family though and say I'm going to leave you for a third of the year to write a bicycle? That's got to be tough. Yeah. It's a bit difficult. When you're in the special forces, you have to go, you know, it's part of your job. So it's sort of natural to leave. And then when I, when I left, I worked in the secure industry, but just before the, for the bike ride, the reason we did that in 20, in 2014, I single handedly evacuated the Canadian Embassy out of Libya on my own, 18 milletium four diplomats. And I came home from that trip and my wife had highlighted only been home 21 days in a 365 day calendar. So something had to change. And so I decided to take us aback or from the secure industry and work with my wife. And she could see, see, I was quite bored in these architects and planners meetings with her. She was a property developer. And so we just decided we would do something to keep herself physically, mentally engaged. But everything we do, we have, it's a mutual decision. You know, if I'd say, it's not me saying, right, I'm going to go do this. She actually found the world's longest road at the time we were living in Scotland. So I was thinking maybe East West Coast, but she, she comes up with these mad ideas and I just followed them through. That's wild, man. So where were they with you along the journey with you, like in a camp or anything? No, no, they weren't. They were back in, they were back in the UK, you know, I had a support team and a documentary team with me. But my wife, my wife actually did come out at one point. We, we, I went from south to north, rather than north south, because I spoke to the previous record holders and all their issues with South and Central America. And from a cycling perspective was great. I was, I had a nice tailwinds, but from a logistics perspective, I was having to change the vehicles in every country, which was slowing me up. So we had an RV and a four by four bought in Fort Lauderdale and was going to get shipped to Panama. And I was in Ecuador, about two weeks out from breaking the South America will record. And my wife told me that vehicles hadn't been loaded onto the shipping container and they were stuck, stuck in Florida. So my wife and my PA and two friends had foresight. They flew out and they drove the vehicles themselves 4,000 miles in eight days from Fort Lauderdale through Mexico all the way down to Panama. So I met my wife half way through. She handed over the keys and then I then met them at the end in Prudhoe Bay in Alaska, the whole family flew out for the, for the final, final shit. Yeah. I watched this movie called Niad on, on Netflix. It was about the, the woman who decided to, to swim 110 miles with Jody Foster and a net man. Yeah, I mean, cause you know, usually on a journey like that, you take on a gay lover and like they did, just wondering if you did the same, obviously with your wife and kids gone, maybe just for the journey it's also going to get through it. It's cousin rules, right? Yeah. Like man's got to eat. Yeah. I was just, I was just attracted to that bike computer. I was literally, you know, people say you must have seen great things, but in the, in the 99 days, I was just fixated on that bike computer that was it. What is it? A peloton? What are you staring at? No, no. So obviously I was on, I was on a bike. So it has a Garmin computer. It tells you your, it gives you your speed distance and it's also a sat, sat, I got sat like navigation. So I'd upload that data to, to, to Guinness, but literally just tell me, you know, how far I've cycled in the day, my speed, you know, what my, what my cadence is, a lot of nerdy cycling technology on there, really. It sounds boring as fuck, if I'm being honest. What did you do to retain yourself? Yeah. Yeah. Cause like, I've talked to, uh, uh, Cam Haines about this before, um, about, cause he'll do the Moab every couple of years, which is what, 240 fucking miles or some shit like that. Yeah. Um, it's a law. It's like three straight days of running basically with some naps in between, like, all right, that's a long way to go. Sure. You can look around at the scenery for a little while, but unless you're a goddamn psychopath, um, you, there's got to be something else you're doing. Like for me, I counts, like do math and stuff in my head under the super nerdy, but I do math in my head. If I'm going long distance like that or, um, listen to music, podcasts, whatever, what, what did you do to get through that? Yeah. So there was a few things that I did. So back to your question. I did it in 99 days, 12 hours, 56 minutes. We had five days off, breed you to weather and to legit average 147 miles a day, uh, that I was doing. But for me, unlike other, um, cyclists or people do challenges out there, you know, a lot of them, all they do is, is the physical. They don't really get involved with the planning because me and my wife sort of planned the project as well. I was already, when I was on the bike, I was thinking about the next second and third stages. I had music as a, um, as a, as a, as a comfort, um, but also, you know, there was, I'm also thinking about the charities and we, we had 11 charities that were raising money for. I think one of them just alone, place to be each mile I was cycling enabled one child, um, to see a counselor. So that's 14,000 children, uh, on that. So there was all those, all those things were going from my head, but I also made sure that I see people on challenges and always like, well, I'm a bit behind today. What I'll do is I'll catch up tomorrow. You don't know what's going to happen the next day. So I always made sure I was on target. I was hitting my targets. I think after the first week, I was a 39 miles behind target, but my target was still a week ahead of the world record. So from then on, you know, I was always, it was always gained. So I was never in the position where I was doubting, you know, my capabilities. I was just always thinking about the next second or third stage, making sure, you know, where we're sleeping that evening, obviously also being mindful of the fact that I had a more of a risk averse documentary team and support team with me. I had to be thinking about their welfare as well. I mean, each country's different, 14 countries, Chile's different from Peru is different from the USA. You know, there's so many things we need to be considering. So it was a huge, quite large project. But for me, that sort of things just started, was keeping me busy and a bit of maps as well. I'm like you, I was working out the average speeds, you know, for the day, how long do I need to be on the bike? Just those little things just to keep you, and the scenery, the scenery as well, at least each day was a different view, it's not like you're going out home and just doing the same route, you know, every day you're seeing something different. Yeah, for sure. What kind of bike? So originally, originally I got approached by Cannondale bikes, Cannondale UK, I was chatting to, they didn't have the budget, so then they went to Cannondale US. But again, you know, there's pros and cons that are having a ginger friend from the Royal family. And as soon as they got wind that he was an ambassador with this charity, Cannondale were like, well, we'll give you a bike, but as only if Prince Harry was sitting on one, I was like, you know, you're not in it for the right reasons, you know, it's to promote mental health. So, you know, big brand Cannondale, I said no, and bear in mind, I'm a novice cyclist, and then a Spanish brand came on board, Orbea, who owned the Lycra called Orca, but Orbea, the origins, they were actually a gun manufacturer during the war. And then when the war ended, they still did tubular, tubular processing. So, so it went from a gun factory to a bike factory, and they do all the bikes for the Spanish cycling team. Do you have the bike still? Or is it? Yeah, we had, yeah, we had two bikes, so there's no, Guinness, as long as you can have as many bikes as one, as long as the same, the same bike. So we had two frames and we had a number of wheels and cranks. And so when I came back, we sold one of the bikes for £30,000 for auction, and then the other one is in my house, who would be framed on who? Who bought the bike? I mean, honestly, I'd be concerned about the smell. Yes. And after you spent, I mean, if there's two bikes, 99 total days, I mean, you spent 50 days on a bike. And let's be honest. That tastes, smell really seeps right into that seat. Yeah. Like you never bought that. Obviously bought it for some sexual, uh, they didn't, they didn't really, their bike, actually, I had two and that was really just in case one of them was really damaged that I couldn't ride. I mean, on day 13, I hit a sign, you know, I was, I saw a sign in the distance at the bottom of the hill and I could see that traffic was filtering from two lanes to one. So I sort of looked beyond the sign and I thought, there's nothing there. So I'll just limbo the sign thinking about the top. I wasn't aware there was a bar that ran across the bottom because surfic satid on the top bit. So I went from 40 mile an hour to stop. And so we had a hairline fracturing in the fork and so rather than taking a risk, we just took the fork off, they have a, of a frame and put it on there. So the bite that there you got was hardly used at all. Well, we're, we're, we're tiptoeing around the core issue, which is the smell of that seat. Yeah. That's what I want to address. Can I get? Can I just buy this seat? I'll give the money to charity. Again, something I'm into very, very sexual and I would love to have that seat that you actually rode on. Yeah. So this is how, this is how he gets to sleep at night. He will have some object that smells like something with a fan behind it pointed towards his bed. Correct. And it's usually a box span and then it's, it's, it's a deep, deep breath. I hold it in for 58 seconds and then I exhale and then I strangle bait after that. Yeah. And then pass on. What I'll do, what I'll do is a gift for you on my turbo train, which I train for for the bike ride. Probably spent more hours on it. I'll, I'll ship you my seat post. You guys can have it. Thank you very much. We'll put it on the set. Holy shit. With the walrus dick and the gimp mask. Yeah. If you can see the gimp mask in the background, that's what I'm wearing. It's a 1930s vibrating male butt, butt plug. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm surprised. Huffy didn't get involved. Schwinn. That would have been more hilarious. If you did that entire journey on a Huffy on a Trek bike with those posts on the back. That would have been amazing. When you were down there, though, does the cartel scare you? Did they get involved in shit like this when they see a white man fucking bald on a bike? No, interesting. I do a lot of guests speaking around the world and obviously living now in America, you know, when I do speak to some of the Americans, I get the same question. I mean, it must have been quite dangerous, you know, cycling through Mexico, through Colombia. Well, Colombians love cycling. There's a huge cycling community in Colombia, so there was no risk at all with that. And Mexico was quite fine as well. You know, yeah, I'd say my support team, a bit more risk averse myself. We made sure that we weren't cycling at night. You know, we're off the road and in a hotel. But actually from 14,000 miles from a bottom of Argentina to a last, Norman, Alaska, the only issue we had was in Colorado Springs. Someone broke into the support vehicle. So I managed to get through all the way through South and Central America with no issues. And it was actually in the United States is where we had what had the one issue. Yeah, damn. That's wild, dude. That's absolutely fucking wild because we had a guy as a true story. I know we I say a lot of fucked up shit, but we had a guy named Mike Posner, a famous musician on the show, and he walked all the way across America here. And I'd asked him the same question of like, Hey, do people fuck with you or whatever? Because there was it was towns that he said that he was nervous to go into. And you know, based on the response of people's reaction and the way they were looking at him, but he was on foot, not on bikes. So it didn't really matter. Now, for me, I personally hate cyclists and I don't think they belong in society. I probably would have just like hit you if I saw you on the road, but jerk the wheel, obviously not stop the car and not look back and not concerned about your wellbeing. Was that part of it? Because how do you get through America without getting on a major highway with that's kind of dangerous? Yeah, well, actually to rewind slightly when I got into I got into Del Rio in Texas on day 70, and I was now 14 days ahead of the wheel record. So I'm like, no, perfect. You know, I can relax. And my wife rang me after an hour of getting in to say that we've been invited to Harry and Megan's wedding. We were all wedding. I was like, that's fine. That's nice. She goes, no, no, you don't understand you're now a day behind. So going into the phone call, I was 14 days ahead, no 10 minutes later, now a day behind I had now had a new target of day 102. So the luxury I had coming into North America that I didn't have in South and central was the fact that it was a lot safer. You know, I could say I could cycle at night. I mean, I got to Lubbock, obviously down the road from you boys, 60 mile an hour winds and tornadoes. I was like, I was now grounded for like another another 24 hours. And so there's a there's an app called Windy TV and it gives you the strength and directions of the winds forecast for the next two weeks, hourly. And so I just made a plan on pen to paper and just played chess with mother nature. I had to cycle 340 miles in the next 36 hours to get out of Lubbock. So the majority of my cycling in North America was done at night. And so, you know, I managed to get through some of those big cities on the highway. The only time I got pulled over was Colorado. I think I was on the 25 or the 85 in Colorado in Denver. And this this the truck pulls up in front of me. There's eight lanes of traffic and I'm just literally going through bearing in mind. I've already cycled through Lima and Santiago. So I wasn't really that that first and he's that he obviously was on the same comm system as the police. And he said everyone is calling in that you're as a mad guy on the on the highway. So yeah, I've been that really I had to come off the highway then but the majority of my cycling was done at night. So I was able to sort of, you know, gain some good distance and use that wind to my advantage. I got Cheyenne and Wyoming and had a tailwind cycle, 270 miles and 11 hours with a 50 mile an hour tailwind. So I had 17 days planned for North America. I did an 11 and a half days from Texas to Canada. God damn man, that's wild. You have this unrelenting pursuit of excellence, which you've also trademarked. I see on your website here. Is all of this just like an attempt to be a better person at the end of the day to break all these records? Did you do all this crazy shit? No, not at all. I was in the special forces. One of the ethos of the UK special forces is the unrelenting pursuit of excellence. If you're going to do something, you do it to the best of your abilities. So unfortunately, I've got injured out after 16 years. I never had any aspirations of leaving the special forces and then found myself working in the security industry. Sort of took that same mindset into that and I thought, well, why not then apply that into something new that you've never done before, which was obviously sports. So my message to people is, A, it's never too late to start a sport or whatever you want to do in life. But also, just give it your 100% as long as you live by the ethos of the unrelenting pursuit of excellence, whether you're in finance, whether you're a carpenter, whether you're in the military or what, everything's possible. But everyone nowadays on social media is looking for that quick fix, that instant, how can I be that person? So for me, it's just about those small gains, but just maintaining that unrelenting pursuit of excellence at all times. What time of year was it when you were doing this? So I know I was doing the planning, I was looking at what's going to give me the best advantage. So Prudhoe Bay, which was in Prudhoe Bay, sorry, Dalton's Highway, which lasts 400 miles from Fairbanks, it's Prudhoe Bay. Apparently, it's only accessible between June and August when the snow melts. So I was sort of working back from that. And so Ridge, I was going to start on the first of March. And then I got my main sponsor, which then also meant that I'd be from South America, it'll be the summer, you know, it'll be summer there coming into U.S. in the spring. But when my main sponsor came on board, St. James's Place Wealth Management, they had a big ACN, an annual company meeting at the end of January. And they had like the one of the guests speaking in front of 10,000 at the O2 Arena. And so for me, I was like, well, why don't we bring the project forward? Why don't we just go straight from there out? So I saw from the first of February, thankfully, when I got to Fairbanks, it was the warmest it had been in like 10 years, the snow was already melting on the roads. But yeah, to give me that vantage start in the heat in South America, we had everything from plus 47 degrees centigrade in Yakama Desert to minus 18 degrees centigrade in Alaska and everything in between. What time of the year were you in Texas, if you don't remember? So I got into Texas, so 70 day, it was in April. April? Yeah, yeah. So it was just strong winds. I don't know. It was like tornadoes, but it was just severely winds. I'm like, this in great images are just like, just sand them and you can hardly see me. The reason I was asking is because if Texan saw a guy from the UK cruising through here around July 4th, it might be a problem. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Because we kind of, we sent you guys packing. You guys lost that one. Do you remember how bad you lost? Yeah. Well, treason day, you're talking about treason. Yeah. I'll avoid that. Yeah. I mean, I made sure I was finished by then. It's only treason if you lose, brother. Yeah, it sure is. It's true. If anyone questioned, I'll just say I'm an Australian or something. They wouldn't, the average Texan especially in public would not know the difference. Yeah, you'd just say, get Amy, tell them you're fucking crocodile Dundee, they'll believe it. I get it a lot here, like, you know, because obviously in the west coast, the British accent is not as popular as on the east. Yeah. A lot of people say you Australian. I don't know what they're, probably because we say mate a lot, I don't know. Maybe. People are dumb, too. People are also dumb. Americans are really fucking dumb. Where do you live at in America? I'm in Orange County. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of dummies down there, dude. Yeah. It's beautiful. Don't get me wrong. And everybody at least votes for Trump. So that's cool. But man, there's a lot of dumb dumps down there. You still live on count. I just think people have been outside the US much, you know, I think my wife, our bank manager, he's in his mid 30s, he's only ever left Orange County once to go to Vegas. So, you know, he won't even know where UK is. So it's so beautiful there, though, if you can help it and you're rich enough, there's no reason to leave there. Like I get it, dude. It is. But I think there's also this sort of false facade here as well. It is like, I call it Disneyland on steroids, you know, everything's immaculate. There's no homelessness. There's no rubbish. Everyone lives in this bubble that is all safe and then literally as soon as you cross one state across one line up into the LA, it's like night and day. So for me, it's like, I want to get the balance, especially my kids. I'm like, this isn't the real world in Orange County. It's beautiful. But yeah, don't think the world is like this place. Oh, man, it's a tough call, isn't it? I would stay and let them think that that's what the world is. And then they're shocked. And then they always want to hang out with you later because that lays a shit hole. I live there for 15 years. It was nice for a little bit and then it all went to hell, but Orange County, man, God damn, it's great. And it's white too. You know, a guy like you who already looks like a white nationalist, that's great too. That kind of plays into your whole thing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm just, I'm just still picking myself up the ground with the taxes here. Oh boy. Yeah. Good fucking luck with that shit. Yeah. Holy shit. California will tax the fuck out of you. Yeah. Yeah. And strangely, I've been my wife. It's just been for nearly four years for our whole green card process and probably probably say nearly a hundred K down, you know, doing it legally. Well, there's your problem right there. You guys should have just came across the border. Sure. I mean, you kind of dead on the bike. Yeah. As you go through, you go past our borders wide open here. No, no, but strange enough. That's how I ended up getting into America. So when I did the bike ride, because I'd worked in Yemen, Somalia, Libya, places that I couldn't get an Esther, which is a tourist visa. So I actually had to go get a 10 year business visa to do my bike ride to come through. So when mean the, when COVID hit, me and my wife have always wanted to move to America and we're like, well, it's first time we've managed to catch up on everyone. Let's go now. So actually mid COVID, October 20, me and my wife had spent, and the kids spend 14 days in, in Mexico first. And then we came into, we came into Orange County from there, but it was actually the business visa from the bike ride that got me in. No shit. Yeah. Yeah. Good for you. And I just adjusted my status from there. Yeah. Proud of you. Look at that. Somebody from the, the chat is texting me here. Want me to ask you about Guantanamo Bay? Oh, yeah. I've still not been yet. You haven't been yet? Yeah. No, I've not been yet. Guantanamo Bay. Yeah. What do they want to know? Did you send anybody there? Like what? It's a very specific question here. No, for us, I, I don't think we sent anyone there, but obviously we're allied forces in Afghan. I've got no doubt there were people of interest that we probably would have handed over, but I can't confirm. I can't deny. Okay. Yeah. We, I have. I mean, yeah, it's a very specific question. Typically, I won't check my phone, but I was like, well, I'll fucking ask him about it. Yeah. What's the craziest shit you ever did over there? Um, so for me, um, I used to dress up as Taliban and pick up Taliban agents, um, for the, for our, in, in, intelligence services to debrief. So actually a lot of people ask me, you know, what is the scariest time in your special forces? And this, this story is great because actually doesn't involve anyone getting shot at. And so we used to go out, pick up his Taliban agents in free vehicles. So I would be the lead vehicle. I would have a Afghan special forces guy next to me. And I'm fully turbaned up beard, you know, put the makeup on to dark and misting. Every time we go into Kandar, there's no pointing plan in a route because every time we went into the city, there's new roadblocks and stuff. So we just knew where we had to go and just find a route there. This one day, again, hit a roadblock. And the guy was like pointing me right down this little narrow street, which had shops along, along the side. So as soon as I turned right, it was bumping to bumper with traffic. And I could see that people were paying attention to the vehicle, more attention than they'd usually been. And the fact that we'd slowed down, you know, you know, you shouldn't be there and your senses are heightened. But we used to get this, like these packs, these cases, which had eyebrows in the contact lenses in all different contact lenses, you know, so you could change your appearance. But I could never get any thin in my eyes and never liked anything in my eyes. So my eyes were like blue, like light blue. And so when you've got dark skin and black beard, you know, those eyes stand out. And I thought, I've been compromised. I said to heck, Matt, my guy, and I said, I think we've been compromised. He agreed. And then internally, the comms are going back to HQ and they're like, right, you know, do you know the immediate action drill? The immediate action drill is to grab used to have an MP5 Kurtz underneath the seat. So it's an MP5 with no barrel. And the immediate action drill is to empty a whole magazine, 30 rounds into the windscreen, give yourself some time, you grab your weapon, you run to the rear of the vehicle, and we have like, it's like an RPG, a light anti-tank weapon, and you blow up the vehicle because specialist equipment in there. So I'm thinking about the immediate action drill in my head, going through it. And in my earpiece HQ is like, you know, it's on you, you make the decision. So as this is going on with the traffic slowly nudging forward. So I went for it, I grabbed my Kurtz, and thankfully for me, the second vehicle had just come around the corner, and my good friend in there just shout, stop, stop, stop. So straight away, I just dropped the weapon on the floor, and he says, your turban's caught in the door. So basically, I'd misread the situation. I thought everyone was bad in the area, but actually trying to make me aware that my turban had been caught in the door and was hanging out. And so when people were knocking on the door, it says, for me, it's about how you can really misread a situation. You know, no one got shot at, there was no bombs getting dropped. It's just the fact that I knew I shouldn't have been there, and my sensors were heightened. And so yeah, I talk about, you know, when you go into some of these situations, just pause. Just read the bigger picture, but I was just so tunnel focused. Seals, we call it stop, look, listen, smell. Yeah, I'm good at the smell part in that bike seat. Yeah, that's the most critical part is often the smell. It sure is. That's our, that's our biggest sense, dude, it's what I've heard, you know, it's our best sense. It's most closely related to memory, but not necessarily the most important. I think it is. I think smells the most important. Yes, it depends on what you're smelling. About bike seat. Most of the time. Oh, yeah. Well, then I can smell it here. Certainly. This is the most important. Yeah. My buddy said he was fucking, by the way, that's, that's really funny about Guantanamo Bay. Somebody else is asking about a horrific parachute injury. Yeah. So I am, this is how I exited from the military. You know, I will go back out to Afghan on another tour and we were, we do our pre-deployment training in Oman because the terrain, the temperatures mirror that of Afghanistan and Iraq. And on the, we had some new guys come through selection and they had to get Hayhoe train, which is high altitude, high opening. So unlike Halo, which is high altitude, low opening, which is skydiving, Hayhoe, you're still attached to, it's a static line, you're still attached to the aircraft. And so Sergeant Major is like, well, you guys can just do some fun jumps. You know, we're already trained and I, the military had great and taken a great sport or hobby and ruin it, whether it's diving, skiing or parachuting. So I never believe in like fun jumping. And we've done about three jumps this day and exited again, normally jump out of the aircraft. You're at 15,000 feet. So at 15,000 feet, you're on the limits before you go on oxygen. So the air is quite thin. And the parachute, what it does is open straight away. I mean, you can travel up to 50 kilometers or 30 minutes through the air to the target area. So that's the reason that we do it. And yeah, I jumped out the aircraft and I did my compulsory count. I mean, I sort of should be looking now forward in front of me, check the canopy and look forward. But as I was looking, my leg was already caught in the line above my head. So I was frantically trying to kick my leg clear before the parachute fully opened and I couldn't kick it out in time and it ripped my leg over my head and to the right. And thankfully, my heel did clear and didn't come completely off. But the pain I'd never felt pain like it before, you know, the air was so thin out there. I was drifting in out of consciousness. I was vomiting because of the pain. I could see that the guys were in front of me. So I just carried on flying this parachute, landed it one legged. It was good landing. But unfortunately, the damage sustained ended my career. So I tore my ACL, my MCL, my lateral meniscus in my knee, my hamstring, my calf and my quadricep. So all the supporting muscles as well. So for me, you know, 16 years of service, you know, it was 15 years at that point, you know, I saw my friends go off to Afghanistan and then, yeah, unfortunately I ended up leaving the military. So something I hadn't planned on. But that sort of then changed the trajectory of my life, which is why the bike ride was good. It wasn't running. It was no impact on the knee. Yeah, that's fucking wild, man. I'm surprised you could even get on a bike after that, let alone breaking the record. Well, you were told that you wouldn't walk again, right, at some point during that crisis. Yeah, just sort of joy, you know, I sort of lost my whole, my whole identity. I got to where I was in the Special Forces because my sort of physical attributes, but the, I couldn't even run 100 meters about my knee given way. And actually, when I started training for the bike ride, it was five years after the injury and my injured leg now was was two kilos lighter than my good leg, you know, because of the muscle wastage. So the, but the bike ride was great in bringing that muscle mass back as well. That's a lot five pound difference between your two legs. Shit. That's weird. That is weird, man. Fuck me. I couldn't do it. Well, you'd have to. No, I couldn't do it. Wow. Could you not? I didn't my life. Oh, fair enough. I would have to take my life at that point. Um, well, riding a bike from the tip of South America to Alaska sounds like, uh, if you're going to end your life 10 miles and make it probably, you wouldn't make it even right now, perfectly healthy. You wouldn't make it very far. I give myself 10 to 12, you know, 10 to 12 soft miles. I like to call them soft miles because that's just kind of me warming up and going there. That's a two week thing for you. 12 miles. Sure. It's two weeks. I do two miles a day. Um, and then that's, it's usually a six day journey and then, you know, if I'm trying to break my own PR, I'll try to bump that down to four days, but, you know, don't push me. I don't like to be pushed. I don't like to be jostled or moved around a lot. Uh, and I certainly don't write a goddamn bicycle on the streets. Okay. I don't do that to people out here. All right. I do it at the gym, like a grown up. I go to planet fitness. I walk in, nobody judge me. The lung alarm doesn't go off. I get on my bike for two miles and then I ride. Okay. Can we start an anti planet fitness where you only get judged no matter what you do and toughen people up a little bit because this pussy shit's starting to get on my nerves. It really is, man. I'm like, is it weird for you being out in fucking Orange County, you have to do all this crazy shit all over the world because none of that's happening there. Well, he's not in West Hollywood. It's a lot of boat shoes and fun times and good wine, but nobody's getting in a fist fight. No, it is, it's nice, you know, because it could do the nature of the job, but go to a lot of these places. It's nice to come back, uh, and unwind, but, you know, I don't mind the deck shoes coming from the special boat service, and yeah, I'm a tugboat captain, so I'm in my element there in Newport. Goddamn. Right. Sure. Can you give us a two to two? Yeah, a little. Let the kid from major pain because I'm looking at your website here. It says we can, we can rent you out for public speaking. How much to rent you out to just drive a little tugboat. The way you're saying it is weird. I want to rent him out. Don't you out. You don't say rent you out to a human being. I want to rent him out to drive a tugboat. Maybe you and I could go and have a tugboat. We can get a tugboat, um, and put it on a, uh, truck chassis and drive it through town. He could drive it. That'd be fun. Yeah, that'd be dope. That'd be a lot of fun. Do you remember that idea that me and Jared had back in the day where we were going to make a paper-machade ass and a paper-machade deck and go to Lake Havasu for spring break and chase the ass with the deck through town? Yes. I think we should probably do that. I love that. We need a captain. So if you want to come on out and do it, it'd be great. It's a good intro into my next challenge, actually. So next year, so I always take a sport I've never done before. So next year, me and my wife are going to be ocean rowing the west coast of America. It's never been done before. Jesus. So I will be in a boat. So I'll be going from either where we stand in Seattle or Vancouver Island and finish in San Diego or Tijuana. Yeah. So I've now moved my turbo training for the bike and now just got a rowing machine. So I have a, most men have a man cave. I have a pain cave in my house. Oh, I've got a pain cave too. It's just not like what you're saying. No, not at all. It's where I do pain to other people. Yeah. A lot of pain all down there. Yeah, pain all. I hate to say this, but it seems like your wife is trying to kill you. None of this sounds fun. Like if it was a, hey, we're going to play pickleball for fucking 14 hours. Yeah. Great. But all this shit, it seems like she's trying to off you. My man. No, no, I think we actually work together, everything we do, even in the security stuff, the evacuations, we do everything together. For my wife and I, we always like to give back. There's always the philanthropic angle as well. My wife's just being awarded the MBE from King Charles for her services to human trafficking. So we've always, the websites and what you see on social media is only 30% of what we actually do, 70% of what we do is more behind the scenes. But yeah, I think for her, she knows that I, especially when I left the Special Forces, you could see there was a huge change in me. The Special Forces is great because you know what you're doing for the next two years, literally day by day to know she now sort of picked up those reins from the military and just keeps me busy, gives me something to focus on. But mindful, I'm 47 now and I'm not getting younger. And your endurance peak in life is between 40 and 50s. This is a good time to do these world records. Yeah. 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Again, I think I probably persona non-grat is for any awards because of my relationship with Harry. Yeah, that's true. That's the thing. God, he fucked it all up, didn't he? You know, I watch it every day. My wife is hooked and we want, you know, we pay attention. You just don't give it up. You were a royal man. You were doing all the cool shit. You were rich. You could do all the fun things. Lord wrote that song about you. Yeah. We'll never be royals. Because now he's on Netflix, you know, crying a lot. He keeps crying over and over again on Netflix and it's like, Jesus Christ, man. Just be sweet and be a royal. Like King Chucky. Your boy, dude. Do you call him Chucky behind the scenes or is it just the Chuckster? No, I don't go behind the scenes, no. Ground Chuck? What's your nickname for Charles? Oh, for Charles? Yeah. I don't know. You have a nickname for Charles. I don't know. I don't have a name, man. No, just Charles. Go with Big Chuck here. Yeah. Let's go with Big Chuck. Big Chuck's dying of cancer right now. He's going through some hard times over there and Harry flew back. He was there and then the dad wouldn't meet with him. He said he's too busy and then he's given all the cool shit to William now. What a weird thing, dude. Do you want to be throwing out the royal family? Yeah. It's a difficult situation. All families have issues. And again, with me, I sort of read between the lines of what's actually true from what's not. I know that the UK media, that was one of the reasons for Harry for leaving. They are ruthless, absolutely ruthless. You couldn't even blink or sneeze in the wrong direction and they'll be on you. But I think in the past, there has been an element. Like I said, there's various households within the royal family. Charles has his own one, William and Kate of theirs and obviously when Harry was there, he had his. And I don't think that helped matters. I think there was a lot of internal issues there. But yeah, it's sad to see, you know, it is sad to see because it is his dad, it is his brother. You know, he liked to think that relationship, especially with his father being ill now, you know, hopefully they can sort of reconcile at some point. But again, I did the book doing many favors. I doubt it, you know, having written a book myself and from the military, I know that it has to go through a whole legal process. The lawyers look it to make sure there's nothing's going to fall back on you. But it just looks like some of the content in that book that, you know, no one, no legal team looked over that. You know, when he talks about Afghan's being chess pieces, when he was an Apache pilot, you know, that hasn't helped matters. So for me, you know, I think he's, I don't think he's been managed well. I don't mean he has the right team around him. And I know again, talking about and the no disrespect to the Americans at all. But you know, when you have an American media team around you, they don't understand the classes and the protocol, etiquettes of the Royal family. You know, when I was at the Royal wedding, you know, no mobile phones, you turn round, half the suits and everyone else has got their cameras out and alive and like, you know, there's an element, a class. And so I just don't think he has that right team around him. The right advisors either. Yeah. His America's classless. Yeah. We are going to hell in a handbasket. We close a hundred red monsters. We threw our class in the harbor with that tee. You guys try to tax us on. But this isn't like, this is kind of family tradition to some degree, right? Because Edward the 8th married Wallace Simpson and then abdicated. And that's how Elizabeth Kane, Queen of the first place, because her dad George became king. Right? Fast out of the ocho. Yeah. Fast out of the ocho married some American socialite. Yeah. Sounds familiar. Right? That's his great, great uncle. Kate's a fucking gangster, by the way, dude. She was born for that shit. Yeah. And even the, you know, the cancer and everything else like she understood the assignment where Megan was going for something else. I'm sure you know her and I'm not going to get too deep into it, but it seemed like Megan was going for something else, but Kate was raised to do that. She's a fucking gangster. You know what I mean? That's a good point about the different medias, to be honest, because we really have no concept of what it's like to be in that situation. And I like it. I wish we had traditions and things like that. It's all fucked though here. And now it's all out the window. I mean, we got a fake, you know, hearing about the president in New York with a porn star right now. And still, I was watching the thing yesterday. They still haven't described what they're actually charging him with. Yeah, they're still unclear what the crime was. It just seems like it's a thing for the media, which I guess is fine, but I guess, but they're just like parading. They're trying to destroy Donald Trump's personal moral character of which I was surprised to hear he had one. Yeah, right. Because we've known this guy has been in the public for a long time. Everybody knew he's a scumbag. That's why I voted for it. Like I voted for the dirt back, same with Clinton, like I like that he was getting his dick sucked. The country was going on, I didn't really give a shit. You don't want to vote for somebody that's not getting their dick sucked. No, dude. That's weird. Fucking weird, man. Like nobody was sucking Biden's dick. Nobody was. To be honest, Obama was sucking big Mike's dick, which is a whole other issue, right? And then you got the other one shit Jimmy Carter's on his last leg, by the way. He's not getting his dick sucked either. A listener gave me a fun fact today about Jimmy Carter. I know the listener's been hammering us today, go ahead. Jimmy Carter has been alive for 40% of the existence of the United States of America. Holy shit. Is that true? Yes. God damn it, man. Every time you say his name, I can smell peanuts in the room. Peanuts? Peanuts? Peanuts. Oh, nuts. Yeah, peanuts. Yeah. Peanuts. Sounds the same if you say it quick like that. Do you still follow like British culture and shit like that? Like are you and your wife and a baby reindeer? The way to ask that is are you a royalist? Oh, is that what it is? Yes. I thought it was an Anglo file. That's if you are not English. If you're English, that wouldn't be an Anglo file. I didn't know if you gave that up once you came over here, you know, like with the citizenship and everything else, like you have to give that up and throw down your stuff. We're not sitting here. Could we have got a green card? When we become citizens, we can have dual nationality. Yeah. Yeah. So no, we haven't given anything up from there. We still have the benefits of being British, but also the benefits of being in the US as well. Smart. I think once we go citizenship, there may be things that we have to sort of, but as soon as you go green card, you know, you have to declare everything, everything you own around the world. You know, in America, we want to see where they can tax you. Not just here. They fucking sure do don't don't think it's easy, especially in California, man. You're lucky to get out with the dime out there. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. The state tax is going to get you a 16 and a half percent. With you, though, do you follow the British stuff? Do you follow like baby reindeer and all that shit that's going on over there? Wait, what the fuck is baby reindeer? It's massive. I literally watched the first, so my wife's from Scotland and baby reindeer, the woman that it's based on. She's actually from Aberdeen where my wife was, where my wife was born. That's why we started watching it. We watched, I think we watched about four of them last night. So yeah, now and then I will, a bit like, we were talking about the early rogue heroes, which is about the SES, you know, that was, that was in the UK. So some people messaged me about certain things to watch, but by regards to the media and the news, I don't tend to watch that at all, but yeah, some of those British dramas are still quite good. But you do make some stuff. So you've got a new Netflix show that starts next week, right? Yeah. Yeah. I've a new Netflix show comes out eight episodes called Toughest Forces on Earth, where me and two co-hosts go around the world and we visit some of the special forces units from around the world and showcase what's unique about them compared to other units. So I don't even know, you know, Ross, have you heard of Top Gear? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Touch it. It's massive, dude. Yeah. Top Gear. You have three hosts from very different backgrounds, age groups. I'm probably the grumpy Jeremy Clarkson. We have Ryan, who's a SEAL and Cameron Thath, who's a young ranger boy. And we go around and we visit these special forces units. We do training with them and they sort of showcase what is unique about them, whether it's geographically the environments that they're operating in, you know, the threats to their nations, their training, their selection process. So yeah, something has never happened before on Netflix, you know, and so it comes out 22nd, 22nd of May, eight episodes. No shit. Is it worldwide? Will we get it here in the US or is it? Because I know there's different Netflixes for every country. This one's Netflix global. So this is going all over the world because we filmed on five continents. It's good. So we filmed USA, Mexico, Colombia, Austria, Sweden, Jordan, Malaysia and Philippines. So yeah, five continents. Holy shit, dude. Have you ever had anything on Netflix before in the past? I know you've done some other TV shows. No, not Netflix at all. No, no, I got approached to do a show back in the UK back in the day. It was called SAS, Who There's Wins and they asked, they said, "Look, we've heard about you. This is back in 2015." And they said, "Would you mind being the chief instructor on the show?" But back in the day, we had no sort of reference point, you know, sort of steer clear of TV. And I was still evacuating people from countries. So I sort of stepped away from it, but introduced a couple of the guys that went on. It was the biggest show in Channel 4 for 10 years. I mean, there was like, it then became SES Australia. So I did do SES Australia. And the reason I did that was because I was looking at doing more wheel record challenges. And you know, when I was starting to chat to some of these sponsors and agents and that, well, it doesn't matter how many wheel records you got, how many millions you raised for societies, like how many Instagram followers you got, it's all about, you know, the following. And so I then got approached, did SES Australia to help with that. I mean, literally at the same time, over three years ago, I got a request, would I be interested in this show? And for me, it was quite good because it's not a reality TV show. It's not, you know, it's in my wheelhouse. It's not a garden. It's not baking, you know, I mean, it's special forces. So yeah, it's a great show and excited for the world to see it. Same, man. I just hope you're ready for it. Netflix is a whole different beast, dude. It's weird to have like things out in theaters or things on one certain station. Netflix, though, is a game changer because everybody fucking has it. They watch it all goddamn day long. And like once you get a project on there, it seems like it's instant and people will just walk up to you. And it doesn't matter how many years, like Netflix is a wild fucking beast, man. And like going back to baby reindeer, it's the number one show in the fucking world. I shouldn't know your wife's hometown and where you're from or all that other stuff. But it's this unknown guy and this one thing that was on Netflix and then boom, it becomes a national sensation. Because the other part about this of what you're doing is everybody here in America, which I'm sure you know, like there's just dudes walking around who've always wanted to be in the military. So like the military shows absolutely fucking crush Rudy Ray is a show on Fox Crushes. Yeah, that's so the show he's doing right now is not a reboot, but it's it's S.A.S. who dares when it's it's the same crew. They're just it's it's a different show now, right? Okay. Yeah. So Remy was on the first the first season of the new season. Now they're in season two or season two is out now. Yeah, it's it's the same show, but it technically started back in 2015 and it went on hiatus for a while and it came back. I think in 2022, I believe, yeah, I think it's when Rudy was first, it may have been 23. I think it was 22 though. God damn. That's going to be great, dude. I don't think you're ready for this shit, dude. No, probably not, you know, for me, I, you know, a lot of people ask me why I did it. Hey, you've got approached during COVID and you know, for me, it's like, well, you know, I want to do we do the philanthropy work. And so the more eyes you can have on you, then when you're doing these fundraisers, you know, it can bring generate more money, but also for my for my children, my kids were born after my time in the military, you know, my, my daughter thinks I'm so some stolen valor or something when I tell her I'm in the military. You weren't in the military, was that? My son thought I was a cyclist, I'm not, I'm neither, you know what I mean? So yeah, so for me, it's more for the children there, but also, you know, although I left the military after 16 years and, you know, my last year was quite dark and the fact that issues with my operations and stuff, my time in the military, I wouldn't be here if it wasn't from the stuff I got from. I joined it 17 and a half years old, you know, I didn't go to university and things that, but the skill sets that I've learned from my time in the military, which I, I transition, transitional, you know, into the civilian sector, I would, I'm 100% for conscripts for the kids nowadays, like just go, even for two years, just get some discipline. So I really want to showcase what the military, you know, what they do because Hollywood doesn't help matters. I call it the biceps, the bullets and the bombs, you know, you know, the guys doing all the offensive action stuff, yes, that's, that's a percentage of what we do, but there's so much more that we do, there's so many other skill sets you can get. So I think this show would be great for that. As you said, there's a lot of people interested in that community, but also recruitment wise, you know, recruitment in not just US, UK, but globally, as in all time low. This, this can hopefully, hopefully help that as well. Well, Dan and I say this on the show all the time that military needs more heroes. So doing these TV shows and things like that, in my opinion, is a good thing for everybody else because the people they prop up in America on television every day are usually the trans or, you know, whatever the fuck somebody switched to gender. And, and now they're in the military or wearing fake badges that I just learned a few months ago here on the show, that person wasn't even in the goddamn military. We need actual badass dudes doing badass shit. And you know, whether you like it or not, Netflix is the best vehicle to get it out to the masses. So hopefully we have more dudes like you and Dan and some other people and not like me. You know, I was, I grew up in Don't Ask Don't Tell and I told him and I was just buttfucking my, this dude named Jeremy the entire time and I brought Jeremy in and they said, Hey, you can't do that. And I said, you won't tell me who to fuck and then they threw me out. But like for you, I want to see you on Netflix doing cool shit. You don't need dudes like me walking around with their, their gay lover Jeremy. Yeah. And I think, you know, Netflix took a, you know, there was in the past Netflix has been criticized for what they were putting out there. And so this, you know, Netflix have taken the risk. I haven't done anything like this before. You know, I think it's sent as the needle, you know, you know, you know, if you, you know, if you tell me that free, free middle-aged white men had their own show on Netflix, it's like, nah, it's not going to happen. But you know, they, they have, and it, and it's a great product that they've delivered as well. And, and, and Dan and I have chatted offline about this as well. It's not, it's, it's everything they seem that we're doing. It's not staged. It's actually letting us immerse and doing it everything that they were doing as well, which is good. Yeah. That's great. By the way, my buddy who brought up the parachute thing said he read your book Relentless that came out and is a big fan. So yeah, he wanted to give you a shout out on that because he had read the book. Is that it behind you top left behind your head? Yeah, this was, yeah, there was so much shine coming off your forehead. It was tough to see the cover. Yeah. So this was the UK version, you know, it's very dark and, and, you know, typical UK. And I actually, when I moved over to the US back in, yeah, October 2020, I, I got introduced to a guy called Jocko Willing. I didn't know Jocko was in the UK. And I then went on his podcast. Did it shock you that he's black and white in person? It's weird. I think everyone referenced us as echo, echo, I was echo in Jocko's love child. You know, I mean, that's what he called me. I don't know his thing, but, but obviously I reached out to my publishers in the UK and I was like, look, I'm going on this guy's, you know, people magazine were doing a full paid special on the family, obviously because of the relationship of Harry. And then I'm going on this guy's podcast, you know, can we get some books over? And there's about 18 months after the launch in UK and they weren't interested. So Jocko got me to number one in Kindle, which is great. And so my wife was that, well, let's buy, you haven't done it in the US. And my wife, wife bought the rights to North America and Canada for my book. And then we re-released it. But what we did is we then Americanized it. So, you know, 5-11 help with the, you know, that book cover would never hit the shelves in the UK. You know, then we got sort of Admiral McCraven, Jocko, Bear Grylls to endorse it. We had people that the Americans knew and we Americanized the book. So we sort of gave it a second, a second birth here in the US. Did you have any issues with the British government getting clearance because Christian Craighead, who everybody remembers from the Nairobi mall incident has been effectively shut down by them. They told him no, that he can't publish his book. Yeah. So the difference between, I know Christian, I know his real name as well, he was on selection. The difference, I was very transparent, where I didn't upset the SF community. So like we talked about SESU des winds, you know, I could have either gone on and done that show. And, you know, those guys all got persona non gratis. And although they got persona non gratis, it did help with recruitment in the military, what they did, and so for me, I was fully, always mindful of the fact that I didn't upset the community and I was fully transparent with them. So when I did the bike ride, it's like, well, you're doing good for the SF community. So then I told them about the book and I made sure that they had first eyes on the book. You know, they made sure that, you know, if there's anything in there, they didn't want what we took out. But actually, with my book, when it ended, the first further the book is about my childhood and the military, I stop on selection. I don't go into SF operations. I don't even go down things that are going to get me into trouble. So I sort of knew where the guidelines were, because then the second half of my book is about me evacuating the Canadian embassy, you know, all the other stuff that I had done. I had so many good stories to fill from my time in the private security sector, which they couldn't edit either. You know, they didn't have any input to that. So for me, it was all about being transparent with them, working with them as well. So I think, like to Christian and then there may be, it just might be the content they'd put in, which reaches, we have a thing called EPO, express prior following writing and basically there's certain things you don't talk about operations, you talk about names of guys and things like that. So you can, but there's lots of stuff on Google, you know, you asked me where the SES are based in here, SBS are based in pool, because, you know, the Google beast has already got it out there. So, so for him, he's obviously talking about a specific scenario story, which is an operation. And so that's what's got him in trouble, where as relentless, I talk about military to selection, private security and then the will records. So I'm not in those sort of blurred lines that he's in. So here in the US, so Ross helped Matt best write his book and you have to send that shit off to any agency they've ever worked with. So he worked with, he worked for GRS with the, with the CIA for a while, and then he worked, obviously it was a Ranger, so it was at the DOD. Both of those organizations have to approve the release. Is it the same over there? Yeah. Yeah. So for me and Christian, we would have to go through the Special Forces disclosure cell, which is in, which is in London, and they would sign off or deny it. But I know there's been guys in the past who tried to release a book behind them and released on Amazon, and did you get shut down? Oh, yeah. We've had that too. The one of the other guys on the Ben Laden raid wrote a book and they took all the money he made from it, I think. I'm pretty sure. You got a nine and a half million dollar advance and the government ended up suing him for nine and a half million dollars. Yeah. Which is, it is what it is, I suppose, but did you have to, you still have to turn your stuff in if you, if there's any mention in your military service, right? Yeah, any military service, you've got, you've got to turn it in. But for me now, I've been doing it so long. It's like, I understand the e-paw, what I can and can't talk about. And so I sort of, you know, you do, whatever you do, you know, whatever you're talking about a bike ride in UK, you know, I remember launching the bike ride and the guys are at introduce me on the radar. This guy's going to tell us about all the secrets of the Special Forces that hang on with this. You know, so there's always going to be that intrigue. So, you know, as long as you know how to answer and just don't get yourself down a little rabbit hole or in a tight corner talking about operations and you should be fine because like I said, your stuff's out on the internet. Sure, yeah. I mean, there's been, there've been quite a few redactions here in the States from DoD and, and the intelligence community. But I haven't heard of quite, I haven't heard of many outright cancellations, like what happened to Christian. It's like, there's a book called Left of Boom about a case officer here in the States. And it's, I mean, there's a lot of information in there and that one got cleared and it's weird. I mean, maybe it's just different over there. Maybe it's their older school. I think, not sure. I mean, look, the CIA cleared maths in like two days, but the DoD was 18 months. So like, I, who fucking not? I would have thought the CIA would have been more difficult, but yeah, it's strange. Yeah. And I think, I think with Christians, I think obviously, with the operation, it was told not to go in. You know, it wasn't approved by the UK government. So I think, again, there's issues there, but yeah, it's difficult. When you were doing security work, were you doing it for celebrities and things like that? No. So I always work on my own with me, my wife and, you know, we specialize in evacuation. So, but I was always told not to, not to work with celebrities A, because they don't pay well, but B, they don't actually, you know, some of them is just about image. And so I'd heard some horror stories in the past about them. So I stood clear of that and I realized actually the corporate world, that's where the money is. But my very first job was out in Libya during the Arab Spring. And I soon identified these, I always call them the big five large security companies were charging six, seven figures, some to crisis management and evacuation plans, which actually when you scrape the surface, weren't in place. So I bought 30 weapons on the black market and I buried them between tuners in Egypt and design my own evacuation plans and sort of sold that to the oil and gas sector, then worked a lot in EP consulting, you know, each task in the secure industry, you know, is very different. When people look at you, you know, like this with tattoos, muscles and a bow head, they think you're a dormant from the local nightclub when you talk about security. But you know, it is a diverse industry. So, you know, I could either be doing the London Olympics or then training the Kurdish Special Forces to fight ISIS, but then, you know, September, 11 2012, when you were American ambassador got killed in Benghazi, I was there that night and I evacuated an oil company back to Tripoli through safe houses and because of the success of that, rolled onto the Canadian embassy. So I'm now almost like one of the go tos when it comes to two evacuations. Yeah. Yeah. Did you, were you in charge of evacuating Prince Andrew's puppets? Yeah, just his teddy bears. Okay, I didn't know. I didn't know. And I just, again, I want to make sure we're clear on that because a really big fan of the puppets, not the bears so much, but the puppets. You're a fascinating dude, man. Jesus Christ, the show could go like four hours today and my, if you heard the phone going off over and over again, you've got a lot of fans, man. It's wild. I'm Jocko. Because another buddy might just hit me up and he's like, dude, I fucking, I listened to him on Jocko. Jocko's a massive show and you didn't know that at the time. You're no idea. But not from, not from the UK. Like I said, I never, when you talked about earlier about, I've never, I don't, I don't listen to podcasts. I never have, you know, I don't, you know, my wife sort of laughs and I'll, I'll, I'll share a story with you. It's about the role. I didn't even know who Oprah Winfrey was when I was chatting to the role wedding, you know, I don't, I'm not Starstruck. I don't watch much TV and things like, I'm watching my wife, you know, I just didn't know who she was. And everyone's actually the queen of that. She's not my queen. Um, and so when I came over here with Jocko, you know, I then googled him, but it was a lot of friends who listened, a lot of guys do listen to podcasts and I said, I'm going to this guy, Jocko and, and he was great messaged me. His wife's actually British, um, and so yeah, and we, we've been friends ever since. I'm actually going back on, on June the 4th as well. So, um, going back down there. But yeah, not because I, I rude that I didn't know him because I didn't think he was famous. I just genuinely didn't, didn't know he was. I didn't listen to podcasts. And the reason I don't listen to podcasts and some in Jocko said it was that people will listen to like his podcast and go on his show and they will reference a conversation, you know, from someone else. Yeah. My podcast is for you, you know, I don't need to reference. And so I really stuck with me. I was like, well, that's a good idea actually. I'll just go on and just, you know, I have no reference points for you guys who you've had on before. And, and so I couldn't reference that when we're, we're talking, but yeah, I know he's a great guy. And he, we'd only been here a few months and you know, he had me in the family over for Memorial Day. You know, they've been, uh, real, real good advocates for us. Yeah, I, it's rare that I get this many fucking text messages during a goddamn show about somebody. But like, yeah, I, they love you on Jocko, Jesus Christ, it's a, it's a massive show. We love Jocko. He's been on this one before. He's great. Yeah. And they'd not request for tugboat captains. So half of those messages. No, those are, cause they, they know Dan and I are in charge of that. Like nobody fucks with our tuck boat over here. So like, yeah, when we hire you, um, you know, you know, we're loyal. Yeah. We have, we've got a whole uniform and everything. We sure do. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you know, we'll, we'll send over the contract, but you don't get any input on the uniform. None. And we start with the child small and then we work our way up and we kind of figure out what you can breathe in. Yeah. So if you can, if you can breathe like just enough to get through the day, that's the size we're going to give you. I don't want to give you something that's, you know, I like a guy like you's probably an XL, maybe a large, uh, obviously we're on zoom. So I can't see you. I need to bump that down to sizes for what Dan and I are looking, I think an extra medium probably is what we're looking at. I think so. Yeah. I think so. I, I am probably Excel, but everything I wear is medium, cause I believe it tight is right. Loose is no use. It's true. People, a lot of people say my gynecologist says that. Yeah. Kevin Spacey, Kevin Spacey used to say that all the time. Um, now's the point of show we get to the drinking bro of the week. You probably should have referenced this show before coming on here. It's a weird one today, uh, which is someone who's inspired you or helps you become the person you are today. Who would you like to give the drinking bro of the week to? Uh, probably my, my father, you know, my, my father told me I'd last two minutes in the military. And so that was my driving force. You know, there's no point in me arguing with him, uh, the only best course of action was action itself. And so if he hadn't given me those words and I probably won't be in this position where I am today. So from my father. And he was a, uh, military man himself, right? Yeah. So he, he was a 22 years sergeant major in rural engineers. And I actually referenced him as the, as the Ted Lasso, the army. He was the army soccer manager, player and coach, but now I've actually watched Ted Lasso. I take that back slightly, but he had the same job as Ted. Yeah. Yeah. That's nice. And it's in the bedroom and he was correct. Yeah. All right. P. Yeah. He was right. He always got to listen to your dad father's days around the corner here. Uh, we appreciated Dean, can't wait for that show to come on a Netflix on May 22nd. My man, congratulations. That's going to be fun. Uh, the book relentless is out everywhere. Now you can get that on Amazon and it'll be at your house in 48 hours. Uh, and for our show, go to iTunes, wait to show a five star and leave a quick review. So head on over to Spotify. It's just a five star and you can walk away. We've got a guest here. We do that we can bring up. Can you come up? They need to come up because they brought maybe the most unique bottle of booze we've ever had. Really? Yeah. Just come on. That's awesome, dude. Come sit in my seat guy. Come and sit on up here on the set. Dean, if you have to go, you're good. Uh, if you want to chat with a stranger, you can hear it was going to come up and bring a bottle of booze on set as we, we, by the way, Dean, this is a true story. We leave the studio doors open for all of our listeners to come in and watch live shows every single day, because they, yeah, we feel like they built this place so they should come and get to enjoy it and get fucked up. Um, hi. Welcome to the show. Put the microphone. It moves. It's, you don't have to be ginger with it. Hey. Yeah. Hi. What's your name? Zeneta. Zeneta. Nice to meet you. The Mohican. I sent you an invite to our wedding. Was that you? You son of a bitch. We can't go to weddings, you know? You missed a good one. I can't do it anymore. Uh, no, but we get a bunch of them and we always shout you guys out on the show. Is that your husband there? Yes. How was the wedding? It was fantastic. We walked out to, I'm a real American. Did you really? Look at that. Anthony. I'm a real American by Hulk Hogan son of a bitch, dude. That's in the biz Hogan. Isn't it? Yeah. God damn it, man. I love him. Uh, who do you want to give during your brother week to? Um, first to my husband and then, uh, James Salter, he's one of your biggest fans. I know James Salter. He learned from the, the group that he lives like two streets away from me. No shit. That's awesome. You guys hang out in real life? Not really, but our kids wrestle for the same coach. So, yeah. Is he too crazy? Why don't you hang out with him in real life? He's out of control. Yeah. He's out of control. You can say it. It's fine. He gets fucked up on water. There you go. There you go. Yeah. I know. Uh, and then what did your husband bring here? What do you got there? Uh, it's the most unique bottle of liquor ever. Let's see this thing. What do we, is that? Is it fucking sake bro? No. So what this is, I see Japanese writing. Yes. I brought this with me from Japan, where I'm stationed in military, so that's all I'll say. That's fine. Uh, put that mic about an inch from your face there. Yes. There you go. One inch. Yeah, I know, right? I'm going to remove this cloth. So you brought it over from Japan? Dean, were you ever stationed over in Japan? No, never in Japan. No. Um, somewhere I've always wanted to go. Uh, I've heard it's a great country, uh, especially after the rugby wheel cup, everyone loves the Japanese. No shit. All right. Yeah. Look at that, dude. So what this is, this is shochu sake. You can find that in any grocery store in the US. Um, shochu is basically Japanese vodka. That's the easiest description. Okay. 25% alcohol. This is from, um, the Kagoshima prefecture in southern Japan. You can get it on Japanese Amazon and it'll deliver overnight. Is it expensive? Not exact. This was like $35.40. Great. Let's drink it on the show. I'm a huge sake fan, by the way. Do you know that? I did not. Yeah. That's serious. This is, I heat it up. I'm going to have to put some in the microwave because I'm white trash, but I do that. This. Dean, you're in LA. You can get it heated out there, brother. And I love it, dude. I'll go into the nicest sushi restaurants out there and then have them heat up the sake and they fucking hate me the rest of the meal. It's true story. This should not be heated up on ice or soda water. I'll drink it right out of the bottle. You know, it's Wednesday. It's after two. Look at that. It's got a cork on it. Look at this. Look at that, dude. In case everything goes sideways here for me later, you'll know why because I'm drinking right out of the bottle live on air. Mm. You have to drink it to him and it's a fucking huge bottle. Goddamn that's good. It'd be better if it was heated, you know, I'm going to put that in the microwave and kind of, kind of tune me up, you know, see how that goes. We'll find out later. Who knows, man? You know, it was a rough night's sleep for daddy last night. I'm ready. I'm ready to hit the bottle pretty hard today. You got 1800 milliliters right there. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. Who'd you like to give drinking brother week to? Oh, man. Uh, wife, obviously for one, um, second one guy I work with named Jeff, uh, to avoid all the cliches of dad, wife, et cetera, Jeff, um, he listened to this podcast with me on a skiing trip, um, in Japan back in February and I wasn't sure he would take it, but he fucking loved it. That's awesome. Uh, and he basically taught me how to do my job, uh, where I am now. So the job that you can't talk about exactly is it as cool as Dean's job? Uh, no. Well, look, you keep your feet on the ground and keep reaching for the stars and you'll get there. One day. My gay lover Jeremy went there. Yeah. Navy Seal ended up being a Navy Seal. He didn't tell. Um, he didn't tell. I did. Yeah. Yeah. I'd asthma and, uh, and I'd, I think a flat foot thing too. It was a lot of shit going on. You get it though. You know, obviously family, I wouldn't put his family under the bus. You wouldn't? I wouldn't. I'd throw my. He's got a family. I can't do that to him. Yeah. I would. It depends. I go by favorites. Uh, you got kids, Dean. I re rank them every day on who my favorite is. All right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Today it's my 10 year old. Yeah. I've got three now too. I've been dope last night at select tryouts and I was like, all right. Cool. You're my favorite. And then we'll see if the other two catch up today. You know, we'll figure it out. Yeah. The 12 year old daughter, seven year old son and 18 and Voldort. Yeah. Wow. Dude. That's crazy. That's crazy. We've all got one thing in common. None of them were planned. Let's see. One. No. Two of them were playing. The other one was a, was a whoopsy daisy where, uh, I'm on TRT. Are you on TRT at all? You take any shit? No. Okay. I'm on TRT and, uh, uh, fucking, the doctor told me, she's, I don't know if I've ever told this before. The doctor told me that there's a certain version of TRT where you just can't have kids anymore. So they were like, Hey, you're going to go home and have to talk to your wife about not having kids anymore. And I was like, look, we had two at the time and I go, I'm pretty fucking sure that we're all on the same boat here that we don't want to have kids. I went home and I asked her and I said, Hey, are you cool? She goes, yeah, dude. I'm all good. And I was like, all right, yeah, me too. And then two and a half years later, I come home and then, Hey, we got a fucking bun in the oven. You ready to rock? And I'm like, no. Are you serious? Like, yeah. So the last one was a complete accident, which you'll probably end up being the best one out of the bunch. So we'll see. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, appreciate you being here. Dean. Appreciate you guys. Thank you so much for the sake. I'm going to down this bottle as soon as I heat it up and get loose with you guys after the show. What? Okay. I'm going to Red Lobster later. Like shit is fucking real here in America. All right. This is Biden's America right now. You got to get it in while you can before it's all fucking gone. Okay. Love you guys. Thanks for tuning in for dancing all the way. Ross Patterson, this is drinking bros podcast. Good night. Good night, everyone. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right.