[MUSIC] It's Friday, Fan Morning Show Sports at 5.5. That is Fred Gunning, Vancouver Canucks, very clutch, headset, not very clutch, again, only one side of its working. Good morning, happy Friday to you, Brent. >> Yeah, for the, I don't know, I'm teeth straight day. I'll remind you that you could look into this more than mere milliseconds before the show starts, and good morning to you. >> Good morning to you. God bless it. All right, you want to know it, you get annoyed at me that I just put the headset on you. You're like, don't know, commiserate with me. >> Yeah. >> You complain, you love to do it, do it. I'm like, it's the one instance in life, I'm like, you know what, you should be more prepared, I won't commiserate with you. >> All right, talk for 10 seconds. >> All right, sure, I'm here, it's morning, it's Friday, we made it people. I had a big man day yesterday, and I'm not even just talking about like watching some playoff hockey at night, rented a power washer from a store, was grinding, pressure washing my patio, my back is sore, I like woke up at three in the morning because my like shoulders were all tensed up and I had like a pounding headache, but I'm here. So it's truly the playoffs, we're all playing hurt. I don't know what your, you're all playing, all you can't hear. >> Right, now, and now this one's like all muffled, but it's fine, fine, fine. Who needs proper equipment to do a radio show? Anyways, good Friday morning to you. I do want to talk about your power washing stuff a little later on. >> Okay. >> But I want to talk about- >> You gave me the floor and I'm like, it's all I got. >> Yeah, it's really, it's like- >> You go straight to power washing. I was so excited, I got, I don't want to bury, I don't want to cut my grass too early here just to keep the outdoor chores theme going, but yeah, I was very excited about it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, good for you. >> Thanks. >> Congratulations, man. >> You alerted me to the fact that you could even rent a power washer, I never even considered the possibility. I was like- >> Well, I don't own one. I don't think I'm going to buy one so that just eliminates me from the power washing part of society. >> A community, if you will. >> But no, good for you, you went out and rented a power washer yesterday. >> Yeah. >> And it's like, it's like one of those, you use it one four or five times, you get your money back. >> Damn, I've wasted one because it's bought it. >> Luckily for me, I know my wife is not up yet not listening to this because if she were, she'd be very much signing me up for a rental of one power washer today. >> Mm-hm. >> All right, let's talk about that game. What a Friday. >> God, it's Friday, everybody, I'm so tired. Part of it's because I stayed up late watching hockey, part of it, power washing in dudes induce fatigue, but yeah, it really, it really feels like I just feel like we should pull back the curtain just a hair. At least from my end, it feels super Friday-ish in here. Like some Fridays or Fridays and, you know, the week goes. >> Well, it's a Friday of a long weekend. >> I would say this is the Friday of the long weekend. >> Right. >> Long weekend. >> There is, there, I mean, what's second to this? >> Well, you talk about the renting of power washers and my wife was like, you better get at him before the long weekend, it's gonna be power washer central out there. >> You don't have to tell me about your marital affairs. >> I was talking about the power. >> All right, yeah, sorry. Okay. Yeah, this is, what's the second long weekend to this one? Like, this is obviously, let's lay it out there on the line. This is the long weekend. >> I don't disagree. >> If you talk about, hey man, what are you doing for the long weekend without any knowledge of what long weekend you're talking about? You're talking about the May 2 for Victoria Day long weekend. What's like the secondary long weekend of this Labor Day? >> I guess it's so funny working in this business has warped my perception of long weekends. It's like, I don't know, like half of the time I would just come to work for one of the weekend days in there, if not two, if not three, I will be honest, like it is one of the parts of society that had no complaints, I love this job, I love what we do. And now I feel it more because I'm in like the straight kind of Monday to Friday or next week, Tuesday to Friday. But I'll be honest, it's like long weekends for the past decade of my life, I feel like everyone's been like, hey, long weekend, I've been like, what? I'm working at two o'clock on Sunday. >> Easter, Easter, it feels like good Friday, we're always working. >> Always. >> Good Friday, does not, like if that's, if somebody has that in their top five long weekends, I mean, or they're even more than five, it's probably like automatically in the top five. >> It does not register, good Friday, the Easter long weekend does not register for me. I am a big, I don't disagree, I am a big Labor Day guy though, you mentioned like what the other, like the other long weekend of note is, it's like, part of it is like, I'm a September birthday, so I, you know, I've always like gotten affinity for the tail end of summer, beginning of fall, I'm also a guy who, you know, this is sacrosanct to say with how much I've been loving the weather we just got yesterday. But it's like, I'm just a big fan of turning. Like, I don't like it when it gets all the way cold. But much like when it's cold, I like as things start to warm up and ooh, we got a 13 degree day and then it's fine. I like the changing of the season. So I guess that's why Labor Day would be the second for me. >> Ew. >> I know, I know. >> You like the changing of the seasons when it goes from warm to cold, like this is not cold. >> No, no, it's not to cold, it's to cool. >> Yeah, but it's, I know. >> You know what that indicates? >> Oh, no, it's gonna be 13 degrees, it's almost Canadians are gonna die, like what are we talking about here? I love, all of you, God, I work so much with Makino, I'm working with you, guys like pre-morning the summer before the end of it. >> We're talking about Labor Day. >> Yeah. >> The whole appeal of the May 24 Victoria Day long weekend is because now we get like our month and a half of summer. >> Don't disagree. >> It's happening. >> I can't wait. >> It's all happening. Today it's gonna rain. >> Okay. >> But like the weekend. >> I was gonna say, you made a comment to me yesterday about how much light and sunshine was in the air driving in yesterday. >> Yeah, sunrise is actually before six o'clock now. >> And I didn't take note of it yesterday. So as I was driving in, probably just as a like technique to keep myself awake because I was so tired, I'm like, let's take heat of the sky at several different points in this track. Guess what? It was gloomy and no sun, so. >> Gloomy in Edmonton today, you think? >> The Vancouver Canucks put the Oilers on the brink thanks to JT Miller's goal with 33 seconds left. The Oilers look like they were just, they're gonna take control of this hockey game early on. They go up one nothing. They have three power plays in the opening 14 minutes of the hockey game, you know. >> What should be a day? >> Now for anybody. >> Like 50% power play, best power play on planet earth, times a million with the best players on planet earth. >> But for goal and half? >> They went over three in that period and the Vancouver Canucks were full value for the win. Now, like if you're watching the highlights this morning and you look at the game winner, you're like, well, that's all they fluked into a, I mean, I wore a shot in the third period. I think it was like 14, three or something insane like that. >> No, the Canucks dominated them. I was pouring over the natural statue page this morning. The second period specifically, I think core C4 was 70 30 for in the Canucks favor 65 or whatever it was. It was absurd. That was, you see that a lot of the talk coming out of Vancouver late, I guess not this morning because they're all sleeping, but late last night is that that's, that's the blueprint. That is as good a game as the Canucks could play. Now I'd point out that they needed one of their best players to score with 30 seconds left in the game to win on a night where they feel like they played as good a game as possible. But yeah, I mean, that's full marks to, to what the Canucks did last night. And even, you know, we talk a lot about talk, you got to give him a little credit. >> Not a lot of credit. >> Okay, sure. >> Yeah, a lot of credit. >> I mean, I, I always, but Patterson with the assist, you know, deflects off his skate off the post and then right to JT Miller. >> Now look, I do give him credit for putting him with good players there and like the assist on the game winner. I'm not going to, like, of course it puts a finer point on it, but I think it was a great move to put him with some talent to players play most of the night with Patterson and Hoglander there. And that's just different than kind of the guys who have been beaten into a square that he's been playing with. So I think that you got to give him, you got to give him credit there as well and him being talking. I, I'm, the only reason why I say a little, I don't disagree. It's a lot of credit as much credit as a coach can deserve, give it to a talk it there. I'm just. >> Scoreboard. >> Well, scoreboard, yes. But I'm also of the belief that it's like always go to the player for performing as opposed to the coach. >> Oh, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. Yeah. >> But they're all going to get credit. >> Of course. >> Like you want to talk about the emotional leader? I know he doesn't wear the C for that team, but. >> Well, and also go back 18 months ago or whatever it was with him slamming the stick and screaming it. Oh, but in bench fee loss, but who knows who the third string goalie was that he was screaming at in the bench and telling guys to get off the ice in the middle of games. And you looked at that guy and it's like, oh, this is a malcontent. They just paid him. The contract hadn't even kicked in. Amazing how these things can can change. >> Yeah, and it is amazing how, you know, I don't know, not my perception, but people's perception can change about, hey, how these other things other than the performance on the ice, how these emotionality aspects of either players or head coaches can actually have a direct impact on the result of hockey games this time of year. Crazy. All right, are we done not talking about the Leafs now? Because like I have a Leafs adjacent thought you never you never have to ask permission. You can always pepper in Leafs adjacent thought. >> However far along in Leaf landed it, I'll take it. >> It's not over yet at all, right? And like the Oilers have been back up. They've had their backs up against the wall before in series and McDavid and Drysidal. They've come up huge force game sevens and they've won series like I think I can't wait to see what the line is for game six in Edmonton. If it's not minus 450, I'm taking the Oilers because like I think they're going to win that hockey game and then the over. >> Well, the Oilers combining for only five in their last two. >> Yeah, and that power probably going over five yesterday and those two dudes having no goals between them and just want to sit from Lee on Drysidal and going at combined minus four. >> Comparisons the thief of joy as they say. >> Yeah. >> People to like every day, somebody tells me that night at school, you know what, I was talking about my joy. >> Somebody else said that to me. >> Yeah. >> And I don't know if I like it better. >> No, you do. >> Yeah. Comparison is the thief of joy. Okay. Don't compare. But I compare. >> And contrast often. >> There's one team to compare the Maple Leafs to and it's the team that had the head start on them. >> Right. >> Got them at David. >> Right. >> The draft previous to Austin Matthews. >> It's the better player. >> And they've won rounds. They've been in a conference final, but baby, it's it's binary now that the Leafs have won a series. >> Oh. >> Very cup. No cup. >> Okay. >> No cup. >> Okay. >> I don't hold you. >> No cup. >> Sure. >> Cup. No cup. And as long as the Oilers don't win a cup with Conor McDavid, who we all agree is better than Austin Matthews, right? And Leon Dreyseidal is comparable to Austin Matthews, but like- >> I was gonna say like if you're any of the secondary pieces. >> Yes. >> He's better than any of the secondary pieces. They have a better one, two punch. >> Yes. >> Than the Toronto Maple Leafs, for sure. And as long as they don't have a Stanley Cup, you're gonna feel a little bit better as a Leaf fan. I listen, I just, that's my perception of the situation. >> Can I ask you a question that's gonna make you want to punch me in the face? >> Mm-hm. >> Have they had more success than the Toronto Blue Jays or the Oilers? >> Who? >> The Oilers. They had more success than the Blue Jays. They definitively have. >> Sure. >> Yeah. >> Sure. >> I just, I had to bring it back to that. The Steelers part of it all, you're right, like at a certain point in time it does become did you get the job done? Now, I think the difference is, is that those guys, you know, I forget what the numbers are in front of me, but it's like they're- >> They've all produced. >> Well, it's like, but it's not, there's, there's producing and there's what those guys have done. It's like they're with- >> Even the postseason. >> They're like, they- >> Cretzky and the mew. >> It's insane. >> So that's the reason why it's just always gonna be different. And not to say the reaction to the team as a whole will be different. >> Yes. >> The action has been, okay, Kyle Dubas, how do you did it? >> I have my problems with you, and it was almost like picking the poison at the end of every season for Leaf fans of who they wanted to be most angry at. With the Oilers, it's pretty cut and dry. >> Yeah. >> Now, don't get me wrong. If, if Drycidal and McDavid get shut out again, and it's really quiet last couple games of a series, I think there's some disappointment with that and some grumbling. But I also think it's, you have a complete understanding of what those players are and you wouldn't want to go in any other direction, obviously. Whereas in Leafland, it's been, my God, I'm mad at this star, I'm mad at the coach, I'm mad at the goalie, I'm mad at the GM, I'm mad at the guy they traded for at the deadline who after the season is saying, I don't want the smoke, I'm playing in Toronto. There have been so many different places for it to go. And I think with the Oilers, the people of consequence, and we can talk about nude, we can talk about Bouchard, but let's be honest, there's two people of consequence in Edmonton, they have done so much in games that matter, that again, not to say they'll wear none of this if they're pointless again, but they just have such a body of work that it's, it's impossible not to look at in a completely different light, honestly. Yeah, not yesterday though. No, you're right. Like, and that's why, I love this from you, God, it is Friday. It was wonderful. I love it. No, no, I'm here for it. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe, maybe that's just my own horrible sensibilities because I'm going to talk about how much I enjoy Xander Shoffley being the major failure, even though like he's once again set the major championship record with the 62, like, I don't know, maybe like that just makes me a bad person. I try not to be this person in real life, I can't help but like sometimes I do, like I do comparison, like again, comparison is the thief of joy. Just focus on yourself. Yeah, I know. I try, I try people, like I'm trying, I'm trying, what was it, oh God, what was the Dame Lillard tweet, I'm trying, what was her name? Not Karen, but yeah. Nothing. Oh, okay, I do remember what you're talking about now, yeah. Or no, was T.J McCallum. Yes. I'm trying. Yeah, I'm trying. Anyways, I am trying, trying, trying to just focus on myself and the Leafs should be focusing on themselves. I think Brendan Chan and Brad your living, they're focusing on themselves, Austin Matthews are focusing on themselves, but you as a sports fan, of course, you can do like sports like shot, of course, you can, of course, you just complete non sequitur, but you mentioned I'm trying in the parlance of the NBA. And that just reminded me of my favorite post cam presser of all time with Lou Williams and Pat Beverly, Jennifer, I'm trying Jennifer with Lou Williams and Pat Beverly when they were asked like, how did Kevin Durant score 50, whatever points? Yeah. And he goes, and Pat Beverly was like a bit shocky, a bit more of a dick about it going in. Well, what would you do? And then Lou Wills go, I promise we try your basketball fan. You, you, what would you do? He's seven feet tall. He's from everyone. He makes all the shots. I'm trying. I promise you. Great clip. But in terms of, of course, the Leafs, they don't sit there looking at Edmonton's backyard and going, now I do think there's an element of looking in Edmonton's backyard in Colorado's backyard and saying, when it's like maybe one or two less guys at the very tippy top of the structure, it's different. And I think that's where the teams look at it. But from our perspective, of course, you just want to Nelson Munson, the Oilers, of course, you want to drag people down in the mud, of course, where you are, you live in the mud, that dirty, wet pit that our boy on the text lines, I think the other, I think the element, and this is the part I can never wholly escape. And I don't know. Maybe the Tavares of it all should have made me stop thinking of things in this way. But does McDavid not getting it done? And let me preface this with, I think he's staying at Edmonton. I think they're, I think it is more likely than not, he tries to follow the exact same path, Sid has followed to just like sticking it out in one place and being that guy. But does it hurt his chances? Like every year they bow out in the playoffs, it hurts the chances of Conor McDavid ever coming home every year. Because if he does the job and leaves, then it's fine. And now there is some element of like, if the Leafs don't win, which don't worry, we don't need to worry about that. And the Oilers don't win, then it's like, yeah, okay, I'm going to try something else. But if the Leafs ever won a cup before the Oilers, and it's like, obviously you'd take that deal in a heartbeat, that'd be the kiss of death. Like, that's the one thing I'm certain of is that Conor McDavid is not going to be somebody's Kevin Durant in the NHL parlance, because that's every time, every time I'm watching him and specifically in the second round every year, because first round, I'm just like, ah, this is amazing. Enjoy it. Leafs are still in it. And then the second round, the Leafs are gone to have to dream on it. And I think every time, like, how does this affect McDavid, it's kind of a long-term future. No, that's a good point. Ooh, now you've got my... Now you want them to win it. Yeah, now it's like, ooh. And now, and this would be the time, because then next year could go poorly, and then you're into the walk year, and yeah. So this is actually, if you were out of the belief that the thing that would drive Conor McDavid to Toronto is a Stanley Cup in Edmonton, now I have the belief that that would just further cement that he would want to stay, that is. But I think the only path is him winning, feeling like he did the thing, and then he gets to be the savior coming home, never going to happen, like 0.1%, but dream with me. Not sure there's too many through-line threads that connect Conor McDavid to LeBron James is the problem. But yeah, like that would be the LeBron of it all, like going back to Cleveland to get one for the Cavs after getting his first two in Miami. Yeah, God. Maybe LeBron loves a murder house. We've seen McDavid's palatial murder stand at me. I tend to think that McDavid's never leaving. No, he's doing this thing. He is not going to leave, and this is the set. He's not going to leave unless basically forced by a complete lack of plan from team. Yeah. Yeah. Like he'll be like, I can be the guy that gets us through this either way. Well, and they'll want, and yeah, it would need to be the like, no, Conor, you basically turn him into Ray Bork. Well, please don't let that happen. Speaking of Toronto Maple Leaf through-lines, there's Freddie Anderson once again. Oh, spread. How you being? I mean, he didn't even give himself a chance to go in five and game sevens as he was pretty responsible for the three, two, three, three goals, specifically the three two goal, which like just went straight to the Rangers legs, and you're like, how did that get? I mean, Hurricanes controlling that game, they went from all the pressure on the Rangers as the potential chokers to like the chockeys themselves as they had it right there. Three one lead headed into the third period with the chance to force game seven at MSG after being down 3-0, but like I said, Freddie Anderson, not very good in that final period. Chris cried or joining? How'd you like to be on a list with Mark Massey and Wayne Gretzky? Pretty good. Pretty good. That's the only Rangers players to have a hat trick and a single playoff period. Chris cried or joining those fellas. That's interesting. I wouldn't have thought that was a Rangers only record. I would have just thought that was something the two of them just did in Edmonton and it happened to be that they both played there too. Interesting. Yeah. And you know what else that does, Brent? What does it do? Makes Rod Brent more officially afraid. Okay. Where are we going to start here? Because there's like, there's a lot of places to go. There's very fertile ground. Go ahead. Let's quickly just like take one last side swipe at Freddie Anderson for once. The entirety of my life, or at least I won't say my life, but definitely in the post-sunding era and even a little bit during it, it was leaf that couldn't perform here. And then in a new in a new place, new lease on life, you see him big goal or come through in a big spot. It is so nice to see another team take a leaf and guess what? They just get the guy that was here. Yeah. He was really good. A lot of the time. Yes. And then you need him. God, I need you Freddie. Tom Wilson's shooting it under his glove and overtime. Right. Nowhere to be found. So Freddie Anderson was a good goalie in his tenure, his leaves. You'll put his numbers up with anybody. Great. But in the moments that you needed it most, he just was never able to make the stop here. And for what seems like the first time, finally, a leaf of note goes somewhere else. And that other team just gets the exact same experience. They don't get the Zach Hyman, where it's like, hey, all the fun and working hard and he's a 55 goal man now. No. They get the actual just, hey, this is Freddie Anderson. You get the full ride. Yeah. He's hurt sometimes. He's going to be great sometimes. He's going to give you hope. And then he's going to kick you in the butt right when you need it the most. So good, good on you, hurricanes for enjoying it exactly as much as I did, I think. Yeah. Like I said, Owen for Freddie Anderson is and remains in game seven doesn't get a chance to go there. Rod Brandeboard is now a free agent and yeah, there's potential for turnover roster wise in Carolina. There's also the potential for, I know like the reporting is guy loves it in Carolina wouldn't dare leave. And the money's right there. It's just sitting there waiting for him to take it. Or is it? All right. Here is the hurricanes head coach after yesterday's game six loss. Tough way to end a really good year. You know, like these guys played their butts off all year. But this is what you're going to remember, right? And that's the hard part. And like you said, you know, it's a business and you know, love they rule this back with these guys. But, you know, that's who knows about that's all going to shake out. Part of me, that wasn't that wasn't the convicted. I'd love to be back in Carolina. Now, he was talking more about the roster. I was going to say, I think you can definitely read and understand it to be like, Oh, maybe Jay Gunsell's not back or whatever. But yeah, hard not to make that at least from my perspective about him. Yeah. So, and you know what I think is the biggest part of this is, and I don't think that Rod Brenda Moore wants to operate in an environment with no pressure. I don't think he needs it safe and easy and cool. But I think the thing he's liked the most about being in Carolina is that he's kind of unquestioned and rightfully so. He was Mr. Hurricane as a player. He's Mr. Hurricane for their next most successful era as a coach. He has every right not to feel that way, given what he's accomplished. But when you start to bump in against it, and no, there's not 10,000 reporters, but the three that are there, they got to ask you about the continued failures. You have to address it. I just think that all of the, Hey, I love it in Carolina. It's so comfortable. You now have another playoff loss. And again, this is not, it's not shameful to lose to the Rangers, but this is not a team that wanted presidents trophy. And, and again, I don't think anyone has a problem with them with the six game loss to the Rangers, the way it looks and falling down three, oh, and then I think out shooting them in every game of the series. Yeah. Well, that's, that's just what they do. This is like the Leafs stopped getting credit for 50 shots against Arizona and losing those games because that wasn't a winning recipe. And I'm not saying the hurricanes don't have them, but they don't shoot everybody. They don't shoot the Oilers and lose that game somehow they'd find a way. But I think that all of the things that he loved about Carolina and it's easy and safe and it feels like home and family, a lot of that is still true. But there's got to be some mounting pressure of, hey, what is this era? Just losing the second or third round every year and I don't know. Maybe people down there go, yeah, this is great playoffs every year. I don't think so. I think sports fans everywhere. They might not, they might not care quite as much, might not be as fervent, but I don't think they just, they sign up for apathy. Well, I mean, which raises it another question. If he is just available now, you just got to pay him. Yeah. Like, does he have that stank? Cause like he's, he's made a conference final and if we want a game there, like this, this is a team that a lot of people were picking as not even a dark horse Stanley Cup favorite like as a team that very well could have run through the Eastern Conference. And listen, he's not playing goal. Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think if we're, if we're going through the laundry list of reasons why the hurricanes didn't at least force a game seven, it's Freddy Anderson. Yeah, that's not tippy top of the list. It's not Rod Brindenmore. Yeah. No, but here's what I'd say is I, I, I think it's a fair point you bring up, but I actually think you can maybe turn it into a positive is too strong. But if Rob Brindenmore, like, sometimes think we get, we, we understate the coaching side of it. Like he's going to put systems into it. It's not going to be earth shattering because everyone in the league plays fairly similar. But if he's bringing, he's brought in here to be hold you accountable, motivate or guy. Is there an element that he's going to come in here talking about, Hey guys, I've been there too, I am dying to get to this place as a coach. I felt it as a player. That was great. I want to feel it as a coach. I am right there with you. Like I still give me the guy, not Craig Barouba, but give me the guy, Joel Quenville, who can slap copper rings on the table. I think that is still what you want, but I can actually make the argument that a, a hungry and not the Barouba would come in, like rest of God is laurels or anything or any of these guys. I can make the argument that a hungry Bryndomor having, I would imagine, I know dangerous game in this market, learned lessons from the playoff failures, he has a different group to go about it. I can make the case, I don't know that I want to. I'll get there by the end of the show maybe, but I could make the case that that's actually a better, a better guy to bring in because we don't think of it as his failures in the postseason. This was a guy that's get no coach to play in the wrong goalie all the time. I don't think he had a right goalie to play. That's why Freddy Anderson was starting. Then I'd feel differently about it, but yeah, what do you make of that? The idea that the Bryndomor can kind of sell it both ways. I have done it. I have one as the harder thing as a player. Now I'm trying to do it as a coach and I want to get that out of you. At least he has that, right? Yeah. At least he has the player experience, right? He can do the thing that John Tavares can do when John Tavares is like, we're so close like to what? You don't know. What do you know? What do you know? You're close to what? What are you talking about? You're close. Sorry. No. You don't get to say that because you have no idea. And Rod doesn't as a head coach, but he knows what his head coach did. And he knows what it felt like as a player and he knew what it took. So at least there is that. It's just it would feel like you could see, and this doesn't matter at all, but like yeah, you could see the rest of the hockey world dunking on the Maple Leafs if they gave them the Mike Babcock contract. Oh, the guy who who never got it done, never won a conference final game, despite having one of the favorites in the Eastern Conference for almost a decade. So there's only one other guy that I think they'd have to like pay up in a way to get him in it's Perube and you can make the exact same argument for, I mean, it's not the exact same argument, but you can dunk on the Leafs in the exact same way. Oh, you're going to hire a guy who's won one series post that run and he just rode a hot goalie and you didn't even bring him in in the middle of the season to yell at him, which is what he is the best at doing. I think that's the problem is you there is no, there is no perfect candidate. There is not a, you know, even like, you know, it all quieted down pretty immediately. But like the John Cooper of, of it all, it's like, I don't view that as a perfect candidate. I do. That's pretty perfect. I don't know that it is. I am, I am of the opinion that his silver tongue weighs. It's like he a couple of times would step in it of being in Toronto. There's again, so different doing that job. And yes, he has the gravitas to do it. And I don't think he'd be a disaster, but I just don't look at anybody as, ah, this is the slam dunk. It's like the guy I felt the most that way about. But again, it's not a slam dunk, but just somebody I was very intrigued by was Patrick Waugh. But I don't know that he was a slam dunk either. I just, I don't know that there is the slam dunk hire for this team. Yeah. There was a slam dunk hire a decade ago was Mike Dabcock and they landed him. Yeah. Joel Quenville, if you again separate the other stuff is the slam dunk. I mean, we'll talk a little bit more about that later on. But well, also he's been out of coaching for, it's got to be four, five years now. I am still a believer in what he can do as a coach. But the idea that, you know, all we talk about is that players today are different and it's a new age athlete, five years is a long time to be out of it, especially when you're a guy in your sixties, that's not say like Quenville doesn't have the stamina to keep up or he's not still whip smart and all that idea is, it's just like buddy, I have a hard time talking. There's a 21 year old intern on bunk show and it's like, I'm like afraid he's going to like try to make small talk. I mean, cause I don't even know what to say to that kid and it's like, I'm not 60. Yeah. Maybe it's like Mike McCarthy though. Remember before he was hired by the Cowboys, like I walked every play of every game. The last like five seasons going swimmingly as it has her, Mike McCarthy and the Cowboys then. All right. You know, we'll talk about Brad March on after seven o'clock in the comments about Sam Bennett. I do. But before we take a break, I want to say something about long time TSN anchored Darren Duchish and dying at the age of 57. I only got to meet him once I played a charity golf tournament with him. And I'd never heard anybody refer to a golf ball as a nugget before. Here's the first dude. I mean, everything you saw on television was the way he was in real life, right? Like just had a real lust for life. Like really just seemed excited about his life really enjoyed his own life. That's the way he came across as a broadcaster also like super passionate sports fan. I know you and I same deal like we get out in the real world and people ask us about sports. We don't shy away from that. We love talking about sports. Loved sports, loved hockey. And if you're a sports fan over the age of 30, yeah, it's just a huge part of your life, man. Like I just, I, he's got to be a contributing factor to the reason why I'm sitting here. Just his, his love, his passion of sports and watching that on sports desk before I went to school was a, yeah, just a crucial part of my, my formative sports watching years. Yeah, one of my, one of my absolute favorites. I mean, you know, not to make this about somebody else, but you know, I remember seeing all the, the memories of Stuart Scott going around and I'm like, wow, that seems amazing, but I couldn't, I don't remember that. I can't touch that. That's all how I feel about Darren DeTitian, the text I was sending, you know, to friends yesterday, just earth shattering. You got to play with them once at a charity golf event. I was nine years old at a Christmas tree farm cutting down my family Christmas tree. And I remember telling my mom, like that guy, like that guy's on TSN and March right over to him was like, Hey, that's my son. He wants to meet you. I didn't even know what to say. It was like meeting. I would imagine Andre the giant at nine years old. He's so very, so huge and, you know, couldn't have been nicer. It's like that is, that is as much a like wholesome, leave me alone, family activity as there is. And this guy made all the time in the world the, you know, it's like we didn't have, actually we did have a camera because it was like an exciting day. So it's like somewhere. I'm sure there's a picture of it. And it was just that moment has never left me. If you're lucky enough to get to meet someone that matters to you at that age, it truly sticks with you forever. As I grow up and, you know, not that I ever did that job, but working in this industry, I say this is no knock to you, no knock to anybody at our shop. But I don't know that anyone will ever read a hockey pack better, better in their life to him talking about unleashing sizzlers and it all sounding so organic. Sometimes and I'm as guilty of it as anybody. You reach him for a word and the wrong one comes out and, of course, the guy, like I'm sure he had marble mouth once or twice, but I never saw it. It was just he always seemed and especially in that sport reading packs. He was remarkable. So I took it super seriously. Yeah. I'm happy you, you, you highlighted some time for this today because it was such a formative part of my life as a sports fan. Yeah, Saskatchewan guy, like kind of embodied everything you would expect, like a passionate sports fan from this country to Indiana, yeah, there's some, listen, there's some people in this industry who are not like what we're describing him to be, just like quite frankly. But yeah, in my brief interactions with him, totally legit, he will absolutely be missed. All right, when we come back, Blue Jay started series against the race. We'll get into that and Juan Soto looks like he's going to be a Yankee forever fan. The fan morning show continues, Ben Annis, Brent Gunning, sports at 590, the fan. Hey, it's Aylish for a fire. And I'm Justin Cutsford. Join us as we discuss the most important sports stories of the day and tee up the biggest games of the night. It's the fan pregame, 6 p.m. weekdays on sports stats, sports at 590, the fan and wherever. You get your podcasts. Okay, morning chills, sports at 590, the fan, Ben Annis, Brent Gunning, let me get to Blue Jay just a second, but not very often you get breaking news at 630 in the morning, which we have from Louisville, Kentucky. So Adam Stanley alerting us six minutes ago after the PGA Championship tweeted out update round to the 2024 PGA Championship is delayed due to an accident near the course. Next update at seven o'clock, Adam Stanley doing some intrepid reporting said so sad Louisville PD statement via local media says someone was killed crossing the road in front of the golf course. Subsequent to that, Jeff Darlington, ESPN reporter has this breaking news. World number one golfers Scotty Scheffler has been detained by police in handcuffs after a misunderstanding with traffic flow led to his attempt to drive past a police officer into Valhalla golf club. The police officer attempted to attach himself to Scheffler's car and Scheffler then stopped his vehicle at the entrance to Valhalla, the police officer then began to scream at Scheffler to get out of the car. When Scheffler exited the vehicle, the officer shoved Scheffler against the car and immediately placed him in handcuffs. He's now being detained in the back of a police car. What is happening eight forty eight AM T time, potentially, or the world number one. Okay. So dunked his first shot or his second shot of the day for an eagle to start it. And so again, like tragic situation outside of the grounds of Valhalla, somebody's killed and they're going to delay. So maybe this helps Scheffler also that they are delaying the start of the second round of the PGA championship, but it does feel like, okay, the police are doing some sort of investigation. This is like a cordoned off area and there's clearly marked police tape around and Scotty Scheffler as, you know, you would think he would feel like, oh, but that doesn't apply to me because I'm Scotty Scheff and I'm not saying that, like, that again, that that's well-founded. He's the world's number one golfer and the most famous person outside of Tiger Woods. And I think that I don't want to make excuse because I don't know anything, but it is fairly common for them to use police tape and things like that to block off areas where you or I are not allowed to drive your car, but where Scotty Scheffler is allowed to drive his car. So I got like, again, I have no more details than that. I just think that is a that that is a something that I don't know that a lot of people would know. But, you know, when it was at St. George, just a couple of years ago, they're blocking off the streets with police tape and that wasn't because of a police. I mean, I guess it was a police operation, but not because of the tragedy was just because the road was close. Yeah, but the police are investigating what may be foul play involved, even if it's not like, yeah, somebody died. You have to do that. Of course. You have to find out what happened there. I mean, what is the most optimistic scenario? I don't think like Scotty Scheffler is that going to be charged with a crime. I wouldn't think. I mean, maybe. Maybe so. I don't know. But like, what's the most often if he's in the back of a police car like just oftentimes release guys from the back of a police car? Like, isn't there like a procedure where you have to at least be booked? I don't want to make light of this, but like, you can't, you can just shove a guy in the box when there's like a melee going on in a hockey game and be like, okay, well, I'll deal with you later. I wonder if that was it. Like, I don't know that you have, I do not know this. I don't know if you have to be. I don't imagine. Sorry. I would say I would imagine you can be detained without arrested and then at any given point they can say, okay. And also, you know, at some point in time, somebody's going to tell them the cops answer could very well be don't care. But at some point that cop's going to find out who he was just wrestling with if he didn't know, you know, and he might have found out as soon as he exited the car. But at that point, you're going. Yeah. Yeah. And even if Scottie Scheffler is able to extricate himself from the situation, right, of like misunderstandings all around, although this is weird. I mean, how are you? How are you? How are you mentally going into your tea time in like mere minutes after the dramatics of that? Listen, okay. Okay. Let me just read this specific sentence. The police officer attempted to attach himself to chef. So that's the cop, like saying, hey, putting hands on the hood. He's holding a handle. I don't know. And is Scheffler driving? Like it does. Yeah. Like does he not have a driver? Well, it's very six to one half dozen of the other. Like, you know, people who are like, you know, I like to drive and there are people who go, no, I like, especially when you get to that stage of life, like, no, I'm a passenger. I would think it's more likely than not. He is being driven by agent or, you know, PGA championship handler of type than he is driving himself. But it's also entirely possible that he's driving. This is insane. So I'm sure you've had, okay, and part of this is like, I don't want to put this all in Jeff Darvington because he's trying to put this all together. But the wording of Scheffler then stopped his vehicle would lead me to believe that he's driving. Yeah, it would. Again, like a tragic situation outside of the grounds of Valhalla. So we've, I won't speak for you because you are a good escalator when it comes to confrontation. Right? Yeah. The golf course were like, God, I had one recently, like a couple of months ago. You were not a couple of months ago, a couple of weeks ago, no, we're like, it's like pretty intense event happening on the middle of a golf course, like screaming matches, like the testosterone levels, the endorphin level, very high, there's a lot of wolfin going on. And then, I guess, it different than being in the back of a cop car, but like, and then trying to, this is not a sport, it's not like playoff hockey, where it's like, that's just it. What a great boost that could be. No, it's like, try easier for, for a Scotty Scheffler to have that happen to him. And again, happen to him. I don't know how much at fault he is for this situation, whatever. Probably possible, a very high amount. I think it's also reasonable to wonder how that might affect his game, like, if in fact, they resume play today, and he has to tee off in what, like an hour's time after this incident. Well, so again, I mean, part of it is when does this incident wrap up? Like, like, I don't think so, but it's like, if you got into an altercation with a cop, like the idea of him getting charged with something is not like zero, so there's that element of it. So let's say it's a normal day, and he's just going to go to the course. He has helped in a massive way by the delay. Now, can I, can I put on it in foil hat? Sure. Will the delay be longer because this is Scotty Scheffler, like they were going to delay the start of this regardless of who was teeing off the first tee time of the day. You have someone killed outside of the golf course where it's happening, then you're going to need to slow things down to give police time to do their work. I imagine it takes longer to get people in the grounds because of all this, which is obviously like an infinitely secondary thing to someone losing their life. But I also, I, if you're the tour, like, do you not give an extra half hour grace period because Scotty Scheffler's out in the early-ish wave? I mean, there's two things that are, like, I think very possible now, is that one is Scotty Scheffler is done at the PGA Championship, could be a withdrawal very easily, you know? Or the second round of the PGA Championship is completely postponed for today. Like that we might have a Monday finish or, yeah, I don't think you can jam in a whole way. There was rain projected today, Louisville, either way, and by the way, so Jeff Darlington has just tweeted out that he's going on to detail what he witnessed. So he saw this, like, this is a first-hand account from Jeff Darlington. This is not second-hand, like, he heard from a source, like, Jeff Darlington was apparently there. >> Wow. >> He just, that tweet was entirely what Jeff Darlington saw. >> Honestly, honestly, the world number one golfer, the guy that's playing as good as anybody since Pete Tiger, who just had a baby, who you rightly pointed out, his second shot since having a child in competitive golf, went in the hole from 170 yards out. Just got detained in the back of a cop car before the second round of the PGA Championship. >> I gave you my theory on this at the beginning, and I was joking, but the more we talk about it, the more I'm coming around to it being true, that like, you know, you have friends, there's like acquaintances and friends. And like, the more someone is your true friend, the more you love to like needle them and mess with them a little bit. And like, I just think God and Scotty Scheffler are thick as thieves. And he's like, you know what, it's too easy for you. You're having a baby right before the next major. I'm taking your caddy on Saturday so he can go to a high school graduation of all things. And you know what, what, you're going to dunk the second shot of the tournament? Okay, you know what, it's getting harder tomorrow. It is remarkable that at every single step, it seems to get harder and harder and I do not want to make light of this. It's entirely possible that this is not going to be a nice Scotty Scheffler story when this is all said and done. But it is just remarkable that he has continued to it and there doesn't seem to be a thing that is able to throw him off kilter. If this, this will be the 19th thing I've said this about during this Scotty Scheffler run. But he does not throw him out of sorts. I genuinely don't know what could or will. How quick are the sports books on to this thing? Because like, what is, what does sports interaction have the feel that now? What's the Scotty Scheffler versus the feel that now? I mean, obviously him not leading and Xander Scheffler with the 62 would change the odds already. For sure. I wonder if Scheffler is even still the favorite to win the thing, probably not. Probably not. Yeah, I was trying to bring it up at the same time. But I mean, yeah, he is still the favorite. Scotty Scheffler is still the favorite. Of course. Of course. So yeah, feel that might be the way to go right now. Yeah. Yeah. This is Cuckoo bananas. This is not honestly like it is all the Tiger comps are there. It is just eerily reminiscent of Tiger of just like complete out of nowhere. This story involving traffic in a car in a weird hour of the day, it's just, it is, this is his oddest story. You're reading it to me in the break and it. So I had to do it. No, it's one of those. Sometimes you do a story. I was going to say, sometimes you see a story and you go, Oh, okay. Yeah. And then you like want to look to see one another. And sometimes you see something like that and you have to double, triple quadruple check to see what is going on. Like Jeff Darlington, legitimate guy. You see them all the time on NFL sidelines. You know it, but you're assuming it's like JERF Darlington or something that tweeted that out. Yeah. You like that JERF? Yeah. Yeah. Like again, so there's, I'm sure lots of golfers coming through the gates at that moment, right? Oh my God. What? Seven ish or whenever he tweeted this in the morning. Yeah. I guess it's not seven o'clock yet. Oh my God. Oh my God. Yeah. It's Scottie Scheffler is the guy who I guess at like the timing. Worked itself out that he was the first guy to run into this roadblock and then not realize what it was. Again, like this is just us projecting, but it feels like that's the most likely scenario that some tragedy occurred outside of the gates of Valhalla. Somebody died. Yeah. And any time that there is a fatality, whether it's assumed to be foul play or nod, police rightly have to investigate how exactly somebody lost their life. So that's a potential crime scene, but like nothing can be altered there. That Scotty Scheffler just assumed that's for you, not for me. And yeah. And again, to bring back Darlington's reporting, it does sound like it was Scheffler driving the car and it would be very common for a guy to go, oh, some security guard is waving at me. No, that like they don't know who's in the car. It would like it would be. God. Yeah, it's it's maybe it's we're going to look back on this as like, oh, remember that quirky thing that happened in the second round of the PGA Championship? It's also very possible. And it's like the first thing I thought about weird like the hairs are standing on the on end for me, like goosebumps is like, oh, maybe this is like some seminal golf moment that is like, remember when like that happened to Scotty Scheffler? And like he never won another major again or something or like, I don't know. It's so jarring and so bizarre that the mind races, I think a million different direction. I think a lot of people here, you say that and go, you sound insane. This guy has been so automatic. The idea that he would be that this what we just had the conversation about Jordan Spieth. He felt like he was going to win every a major every year from now until he died. We had the exact same conversation about Colin Morikawa. These runs are fleeting. The reason Tiger was special is because he was special, but he's also special for 15 straight years or whatever it was. And the idea that something like this could kind of knock Scotty out of this kind of one of one space that he's in right now. Yeah, I could could easily easily see that happening. All right, sports interaction does have Xander Schofle as the favorite. OK, makes more sense. Yeah, plus two 50. Scottie Scheffler, though, second favorite plus 400. Yeah, it's a tough one to wager on right now, God, I would not be pulling the trigger on that. Let me tell you, I would not know nor Rory if 500 also, it's like I'll give my goal. I will give go back to my standard golf betting advice that you don't bet anybody today. You wake up tomorrow morning and you bet somebody heading into a Saturday, maybe even jump on somebody at a Sunday. That's where you get your real kind of value. So, OK, so there's still lots to get to on today's program. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we're going to talk about the Blue Jays and stuff. The Blue Jays, Juan Soto, there's the Brad Marshan sound from yesterday. And we're we're in communication with our guy, Adam Stanley, who's in Louisville. Imagine like he's in communication with people, right? Like it's like he's like, OK, guys, like, leave me alone. Yeah. Yeah. But if we have an update from him, if he if he has some stuff for sure, bring him on live course. All right. More on this developing story and other things. It's the fan morning show continues. Ben and his friend, Gunny, sports that 590, the fan.
