The Duran Podcast
Robert Fico, Slovak patriot
All right, Alexander, let's talk about the assassination attempt on the Slovakia prime minister Robert feet. So we're a couple of days removed from when this incident occurred. The reports are that, that he's going to make it through but it. I would imagine he's not going to be the same. I mean, I've read a lot of a lot of analysis and reports saying that this is. This is going to be a very difficult thing for for him to overcome this type of. Tragedy shooting to. From what I understand to his abdomen. And turmoil in Slovakia as well. And the UK media, especially the UK media and the US media to a certain extent. Were were in a way rejoicing I guess saying that he deserved it to a certain extent. Really, really disgusting, crazy, comets and analysis coming from some collective West outlets. What do you make of this entire incident? Well, if I can just talk about the British media briefly, I thought some of their coverage, a lot of their coverage was disgraceful. And you know, just just to say, I mean, here's a man who's now still fighting for his life, which he is, by the way, subject of a murder attempt. And all that they can say is, you know, repeat the stories that he's a populist, that he's a friend of Putin, that he's pro Russia. He's done with those things, by the way, he's the leader of the Slovak left, but of course this is an old guard's social democratic type left, which the left in Britain and elsewhere no longer is. And that makes them hate him even more, even the left wing people in Britain, you know, the leaders there. And of course, he's not a friend of Putin or a friend of Russia. He's a Slovak patriot who wants the best of his country. I mean, I think that ought to be uncontroversial and most Slovaks agree with him, which is why he's been prime minister of Slovakia for 11 out of the last 18 years and has done a good job by all accounts. And in Slovakia, the poorer part of the former Czechoslovakia has been economically successful during the time that the feet so has been running things. And why they've just reelected him. So is it appalling commentaries. Now, I think the first thing to say, and I think this is something that the Russian politician and deputy chair of Russia Security Council Dimitri Medvedev has made. Here you have a situation where we haven't had political assassinations of leaders in Europe for a long time. And the first one who has been targeted for assassination in this way. At this particular point of crisis is one of those leaders who has been speaking out strongly against Western policy on Ukraine. And that is not a coincidence. It is not chance. Now, I am not saying that this individual who carried out this murder was or tried to try to carry out this murder was part of the larger group, or that there was an organization or a hand behind him. So far, we haven't had evidence that says that, and the Slovak authorities themselves appear to believe that he was acting by himself. But as the Slovak authorities are also saying, you cannot separate this attack from this ferocious campaign of abuse against feed so, and the line that he's been following, which the parties which support him in Slovakia have been following from this murder attempt, the rhetoric against feed so, which of course continues I mean that's what the British media are doing. The rhetoric against feed so has made disturbed and angry people like this person, see feet so as somebody that they can target that you know that there is some legitimacy that there is legitimacy in going off to him. Having myself had to, you know, work in the past in the raw courts of justice and meet angry to disturb people like this. I have no difficulty seeing this. If you create an atmosphere of anger and hatred and abuse against someone. It becomes completely unsurprising that you know you'll find people like this would be assassin who would decide to come after those people who are being smeared and attacked in that way, and who will resort to violence. The Slovak authorities are saying that is exactly what has happened, that in fact it seems within Slovakia itself ever since he gained reelection, the campaign the public campaign against feed so from the liberal opposition and the media in Slovakia, which is largely Atlanticist and liberal also has been relentless and off the scale, and it has led us directly to this. This is, you know, absolutely my view. Yeah but that's the point of the rhetoric and the demonization isn't it. I'm going to be careful with my words I'm not saying that the point is to get to, to an assassination of a world leader. That's not what I'm saying but the point of the rhetoric and the demonization is to create such a hatred for someone that the political elite, the neoliberal Neocon class doesn't want in power anymore you want to create that hatred. So that you can get to to a point where that person can be can be voted out that person could be regime changed out that person can can have a scandal created and then maneuver it out. For example, what happened in Austria with with Kurtz or I mean the whole point of the of the constant never ending demonization. He or she is the next Stalin he or she is the next mustache man he or she is the next all of this is meant to anger people to a point where you have the dynamics to get that person out of office and then put someone who is going to come off of the Klaus Schwab assembly line of world leaders you know that assembly line that that Klaus Schwab the WF kind of kind of mince every every couple of years the these clones that come out of his school. I mean that that is the point though I mean what's again I'm not saying that that they want an assassination or they want a world leader to be killed but they absolutely ramp up the rhetoric because they want to be so in every every other pizza whether it's or bond or Trump or Putin or Xi Jinping, they want that person gone as a law fair maybe they they create the hatred for for the dynamics of law fair like what you see going on in the US. Exactly right I ought to add you said you know that they create scandals they created scandals in the past about feet so one of the reasons he was voted out in previously despite being a successful prime minister who you know guided Slovakia economically in a successful way was because a scandal, you know a corruption scandal and claims that he was involved in assassinations but he would or not was you know confected that he's not him directly but people around him that you know he allowed the sort of situation to be was confected around him so you know fits himself has previously been targeted with this precisely this sort of thing. So yes that is exactly what they they want they want to delegitimize political leaders who political dissidents and drive them out and of course the other thing that these toxic campaigns and by the way just to say there's an article today in the financial times of all places which all but admits the fact that there was a hugely toxic atmosphere and campaign underway in Slovakia ever since features reelection but the other thing that they want to do is to intimidate and scare off anyone else who has also got their hands and wants to come forward and express them and in that also by the way they are overwhelmingly successful. And very very few people are prepared to you know have the courage and the strength of personality that someone like Fido does to and which makes them capable of coming forward and pushing back against all of this. So by the way there is a film of Fido speaking in April in which he basically warns that the rhetoric is becoming so bad the atmosphere is becoming so bad in Slovakia that you know an event might happen not unlike the one that has just taken place in other words emergency against him, I mean he actually warned about this, and we've seen it and we've seen exactly how it plays out. It's such a difficult situation though if you're if you're a Robert feed so if you're a Victor or bond with Vladimir Putin and you and you come into into power on let's say a populist whether left or right, but on a populist agenda. And you want to look after your country. And you know that the the globalist political class, what's again with neo cons or neo liberals, you know they're going to come after you. You know they're going to come after you very hard, you know they're going to use everything in their power to try and remove you, including the endless amounts of money that they have. The control over media, the control over the institutions, the education institutions, the NGOs, like what we see going on in Georgia at the moment. And you understand that this is a very toxic toxic atmosphere so you're going to have to deal with these forces. And you're going to have to try and get some control over the media try and get some control over the NGOs, try and get some some control over the institutions so that you don't have all this far in meddling and you don't have all this this globalist influence trying to create this hatred in your country but if you try and get ahold of all of this stuff, you're going to immediately be branded as an authoritarian dictator I mean you see or bond is struggling with this all the time. And I would say successfully navigated this but it took him a long, long time I mean, you know from the last 1520 years. Many analysts have been talking about the fifth column in Russia and the sixth column in Russia and all of these forces that have ahold of Medvedev or have ahold of Putin or, or have infiltrated the Kremlin. I mean just in the past couple of years Putin has seemed to be able to get ahold of all of this and, and to not really care what, what the New York Times calls him or what Lincoln calls him or Biden calls him I mean he's moved past that he's out of the system. But you see it's such a difficult situation if, if you're a leader, especially in in Europe in Russia Europe the collective West how do you overcome this. Well indeed and I would add that in Russia is also and this is a point which people overlook. He was a had to contend with an awful lot of violence, including a violence in which a lot of people were assassinated. And now of course he's always blamed in the case of Putin he's always blamed for those assassinations but if you actually analyze and look at them, many of the people who were assassinated with people who probably were more sympathetic to him the and I remember that, we were talking again about violence and assassinations, the same happened to Milosevic in a survey and you know in the, in the 19 in the late 1990s and early 2000s together was a whole string of murders there. And again it was always insinuated that Milosevic was behind them, but when you actually looked at who was being assassinated nearly always there were people who were on balance sympathetic to him and who were in positions to support him but now it's very, very very difficult indeed. And you know there are things you can do, the foreign agents laws that we now see being introduced by various countries are, it's now clear, a key and very successful advice, I mean it was the fact that the Russians introduced the foreign agents law, which seems to have basically broken the NGOs that existed in Russia. Up to that point there'd been a significant political force, after that they basically ceased to exist as a political force. Countries in the former Soviet space have been doing the same but Belarus has, it gives you recently has done Georgia, the government that is trying to do it. But of course they're coming up against colossal opposition, protests in the streets, all the time threats of regime change, always there's the worry that you know people in the military or the security services will be subbourned and brought over to the other side. So, you know, it's very difficult. And of course, if you are, you have EU leaders showing up in Georgia, absolutely, exactly, exactly. And of course, if you are already a member of the EU as Slovakia is, and if your currency is the Europe, as in Slovakia's case, it also is by the way. That is treble-y, could rootly difficult. So, you know, it's difficult, it is very difficult. Now Yugoslavia, Serbia has struggled with this problem, but I think Wurchich overall is on top of it. Orban has, I think, to a great extent managed to contain it. But of course, the result is that he's the dictator, the populist, the Putinist, all of that. And there's a slow, he's not in the euro. He's not in the euro exactly, but there's also a slow, there's a slow movement now to try to basically push him out of the EU institutions. To isolate him and Hungary, and create a kind of codon sanitare around them, around him, and perhaps ultimately push him out of the European Union completely if he continues along this course. So, you know, it is very difficult. It's very, very difficult to see. And I have to say this, this murder attempt on fizzo is going to make it more difficult. Because, again, leaders are going to say to themselves, "If I take this line, well, you know, abuse is really bad. I can only take so much. I have to worry about my family, also remember." You know, endless investigations. I mean, the IFD, for example, subjected to relentless investigations, if you look at them in Germany, for example, you have to worry about that too. That's also draining, and it's very difficult for your family also. But now, of course, you also go and worry about your life. I mean, you know, and a lot of people are going to say to themselves, "I'm not prepared to take these risks, even if I'm personally prepared to put my life on the line. I've got my family. I've got my children, my wife, my spouse, husband. I've got these people to think about. I can't risk it." It's a very heavy, very bad atmosphere. But, of course, just do a repeat. When this kind of thing happens, which it does, it's a sign, not of a strong establishment, confident that it has the support of most of the people. It's the sign of a weak establishment that is becoming increasingly insecure and is having to do increasingly reckless things in order to maintain control. Yeah, absolutely. But going back to the case of Russia and Putin, the only way to get out of this prison, that all of these countries and many of these leaders are in, is you have to get out of the system and you have to break out of the prison. You have to get out of the system. That's the only way. That's very difficult. How do you get out of the EU? How do you get out of the IMF? How do you get out of the World Bank? How do you get out of all of these institutions, the NGOs, the education institutions? How do you get out of all these things? That's what controls your country and that's what controls you. Absolutely. Of course, in the case of Russia, the sheer size of the country, it's enormous sophistication and complexity. The sheer size of the institutions involved ultimately made it ultimately played a major role in making it impossible to control them externally. You can operate NGOs in Moscow, but an NGO in Moscow might not have very much traction in a place like Krasniyas. And within the militaries of the security systems in Russia, because it's Russia and there's been a great power in the past. There's that element of pride and self-confidence that ultimately enabled them to break through. But in smaller countries, it's even more difficult, much more difficult. Even the Russians, even Putin, it took him a very, very long time to get through it all. Now, having said that, they did get through it all. Is that why? I mean, I imagine that's why the West, the US deep state, let's say, that's why they like to break up the countries into smaller bits. Exactly. Exactly. That's exactly right. I mean, divide and rule. That is exactly why they want to do that. But anyway, coming back to Russia, in the end, it proved impossible because they were up against a formidable political operator who was Vladimir Putin. A institutional system that was never fully under control and a vast population, which has also, which is difficult to control as well. The fact that Russia, nonetheless, did break away does mean that countries like Hungary, Serbia, even perhaps Slovakia. Though, to be clear, if Slovakia loses feet, so either because he dies, and that's still possible, or because he's so injured that he's no longer capable of resuming any significant role in politics, that it might revert to its previous pro-EU Atlanticist position. That's not something to be discounted. I mean, it's a distinct possibility. But anyway, the very fact that there is Russian help does mean that other countries perhaps might start to feel, especially if Russia starts getting stronger, that they have alternatives and options. And I think you'll see that play out a bit in Georgia, by the way. I don't mean that the Russians are behind the foreign agents law or anything like that in Georgia. But it is the case that the Georgian government doesn't feel quite as isolated and facing just the EU as it once did. So, you know, that probably over time, the fact, you know, the Russian power is growing and that the Russians have broken away. That might encourage more people. But of course, it will also make the Western powers even more suspicious of any challenge and even more determined to nip it in the bud before it ever really starts getting strong. Yeah, great. The Western powers are going to clamp down even more because they're more insecure. While at the same time, smaller countries are going to look at the rise of bricks, the multipolar world, as well as the de-dollarization or the lessening of the dollar's strength to defund all of these things. We're in for a rough ride because we're very rough. We haven't seen countries. We're only at the star answers process. Okay, we will end it there, the duran.locals.com. We are on rumble Odyssey, but shoot Telegram, RockFit and Twitter X and go to the Duran shop. Use the code GetReady15 to get 15% off merchandise. Link is in the description box down below. Take care. [Music]