I Came With Fire
"Small Talk" with Marclair Project
like we, like the German street, the driving school man. Why not men have a class in Pacific? We, I've said this before on the podcast, have a civics class before you're allowed to vote. At least you know how the government works instead of just showing up being like, you know what, so many on the internet made me feel good about this person that one time. So I'm gonna vote for this person. I don't know shit about him. (laughing) I saw the multiple choice tests. We're like, okay, Joe Smith, you wanna vote for them. Here are his multiple choice tests of policies that this person supports. If you get an A5 or above, you can vote for this person. - I'm gonna start voting for sure. - Yeah, let's start, let's start with, let's start with voting requires confidence, man. It should be voting for the person. - You have to know what you're voting for. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Absolutely, dude. - Did you see that video of Marjorie Taylor Greene and Jasmine Crockett just like going back and forth in Congress the other day and everybody's talking about it. And I'm just like, so here's the thing that like cracked me up. I'm not gonna go too deep into it, but it's basically, it was like, it was a cat fight in Congress. It was a cat fight. I showed the video to my son. And even my son looked at me, he's 11. He was like, what are they talking about? And I was like, that's my whole point. And he goes, they get done. And there's like a bunch of like, oh girl, please, you just talking noise. I think we're like two, like actual, those are things that they actually said in Congress. And I was laughing to myself because I was like, there's nothing more 2024. Like some of the greatest speeches that we have ever received as human beings have been delivered on the floor of Congress. - Yeah. - Well, some of them, some of the wisest men that have ever spoken to us about some of the most deeply philosophical issues. Like we do abolish slavery in this country on the floor of Congress. Like people debated like the declaration of independence came out of the first continental Congress. The Constitution came out of the second continental Congress to Bill of Rights. - Thanks. - Some of the greatest political documents that we have ever received on the face of this planet came out of Congress and then you fast forward to 2024 and in the congressional, but by God, the congressional record, there is, girl, please, don't play. You just talking noise. And I'm like, this is just so indicative of where we have come as a people. - It is. - That you can hold these two documents up to each other and be like, here's the floor of Congress in 1789. Here are the minutes from Congress in 2024. - It's just cool. - It was taken back a year. - Just look at it. Last year, somebody got it up the butt in Congress and put it on the internet, right, which is great. - That's right. - Right, yeah. - It was a whole thing. - But you know what? I can explain what happened today. - He was just showing us what the rest of us are getting as a marriage. - Right. - He's like, this is-- - It was an actual action. - It was a simulation of a simulation. - It was just an alphabet going, right, hang on guys. - Oh, yeah. - This is what's going on. Now, I mean, you know what it is, Brown, today, is probably that those chicks spend so much time around each other, they probably synced up. You know what I mean? And they just kind of went at it. - Yeah, that's right. - That's what happens when you're in the same house. - Right, yeah. - I don't take that over here, man. - All other cycles. - All other cycles. - Yeah, lunar. - There's too much tea over there, capital T. - All tea, baby. - All tea, all the time. All cats, no bricks. High speed, low drag, man. - I'm going to test this, man. - Right. - Well, it's like it's got to keep up, man. - It's a race, bros, and I always finish first. I guarantee it, trust me. - Oh, yeah. - Well, we jumped into this one. What's up, everybody? Welcome back to "I Can't With Fire" podcast. We're here with the boys from the Mark Clear Project. And I'm two to Josh and Sean to introduce themselves in whatever order they want to choose. Can't really approve of either of the hats they're wearing, but that's okay. So let's go with Sean. Let's let Sean introduce myself first, man. - Next man, Sean. - What's up, guys? Before I even introduce myself, I know all you guys are, so let me just stand up with saying thank you for your service. - Thanks, brother. - Thanks, man. - And-- - I appreciate you. - Yeah, I go by the name Sean. Part of the Mark Clear Project, and, you know, I don't even know where to start, so. But we'll just start off with my name, and, you know, Mark Clear Project, me and Josh, you know, we go way back. You know, we started a podcast thing into, so. - Yeah, yeah. - Josh, what does "Wayback" mean? - Like '97, like hella years. - Oh, wow. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It is like Power Rangers was still new on TV, right? - Yeah. - That's how we met. - Right, Pokemon original. - I was watching Saturday morning cartoons in 1997. - I was 10 in that session, so you know the time. I remember that Saturday morning. Now, I don't think people have Saturday morning, like, we look forward to the morning. - Amazon, Amazon killed it, yeah. - Yeah, Amazon, like, the streaming culture, yeah, they killed it. - Yeah, you're right. Did Sunday edition comic strips? - Exactly. - You get like a full color, like, pullout page to page, you know? Absolutely, man. - Yeah, so we've been friends since that era, and Josh always speaks really good about you guys, and said, you know, he kind of told me, you know, he uses you as an example for, like, kind of stuff that we do. And, you know, he thought it'd be a good collab, and I was like, I'm always, you know, happy to come hang out with you guys, and... - Same, man. - You know? So, I don't even know if I introduce myself properly, but this, you know, that's all I got right now. - He did a good job. - It's all good, man. We got Sean, and Mark Claire Project, so... - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, so... - I'm getting into the weekies later. - Yeah. (laughs) - He didn't like to, Josh, real quick, and let him... 'Cause usually, when we do our thing, Josh goes first, and that's the rule, I'm like, bro, you gotta go for it. - Yeah, he kinda got that vibe. So, that's why I put you on the spot, dude. - Yeah, you mixed him up, he mixed him up, dude. - Get a mix up the mix, man. He wasn't ready. - No, I wasn't ready, um, yeah. But... - That's all good. - It just hit me, it's Friday evening, it's Friday evening in California, dude. That's why I got a drink going. - What's your news to that? - Change the weather is... - Her fake in California weather today in the Bay, like, it's summertime, but it was still kinda goody weather. Like, a little cloudy, but the sun is out. - That's the best, and like, the age of the fresh, Brad, a badass sandwich, I was just, it was a good day, like Ice Cube said. - Kinda sandwich. - But that's the thing that irritates me the most, is like, the most beautiful places in our country. 'Cause people rave about San Diego, right? Sunny 72, 300 days out of the year. And yet, like, what happens, man? The most beautiful places in our country just ruin. - 'Cause everybody wants to go, man. - Lift hard, idiot communists that go there and take it over. And they're like, you know what this place needs? Hmm, socialism. And you're like, no, no, it was perfect. Like, what are you doing? (laughs) - Yeah. - Not even, it is, it's a shame walking around, man. It really is. It is a beautiful place, though. - Yeah. - As long as you can dodge the heroin needles. - Yeah, sure. - It's perfect weather. - That's why I wear, like, shin-high boots, you know? - Yeah. - It's different. - You'll stand the poop on the sidewalk. - So, look at the road, the road stoppers are coming back for sure. They all have to go. - They don't surprise, like, it really so long to get, like, nice. You know? - Yeah. - No, it has. - It was, yeah. - 'Cause it was a win-win-win-win-win. - Me, I'm like, damn, finally. - Yeah. - Yeah, I know. - Yeah, it was, too. It's been kind of like a late onset spring. - Yeah, it was raining randomly. - Yeah, global warming, boys. - Global warming. - Yeah. - I mean, that's why, that's why I'm attacking. - Yeah. - I believe in global warming. I think that climate change is the thing, but I don't think that global warming is the thing. - That's a beautiful articulation. - I believe in global warming about as much as I believe that Lizzo is a beautiful woman. If you-- - I mean, that just hits on a man. - You hear what I'm saying? Like, how much cholesterol do you like in your females? - Mm-hmm. - I don't know. - I mean, I like-- - That's a lot of density lacro protein going on over there, y'know? - I like a thick chunky one. - You wanna push the rest of it? - Like, the rest of it. - Right. - You know, it's a cigar. - Snickers are a crutch bar, dude. Like, what is this going on over here? (laughing) - Wait, so, so John, it doesn't mean to me? - It doesn't mean to me. - Like, oh, he does. We're getting to, we're getting to it. - I don't think he's getting off easy. - He's gonna have to explain that. - He needs to explain that later, Zach. - Oh, yeah, John's like, "Oh, I'd let me out of the hot seat." Like, I'm doing it, like, in the after. - He's just, like, in the conversation, go on. - He's the kid that's in front of the class, and he's like, "Please stop asking me questions "about my feet in the head." - Yeah, like, it feels like, "Hey, now you read the book. "You just can't, I'm like, "Hey, that's too funny." - That's too funny. - Listen, we all know I didn't read this book. Please stop asking me questions. He's like, "I got passed all the way up to ninth grade, "but I'm actually in the fifth grade, really level." So... - Dude, they just can't. - 'Cause they didn't want to see you again. - Don't try to sit behind, dude. Don't try to look behind. - It was a terrible book. No pictures. I do not recommend the official. - No, I recommend. - This book sucks. It's bullshit. - Yeah, that's funny, so. All right. - Are we right from here, John? - Is that it, now? - It's your turn. - Okay. - It's your turn. - All right, cool. - Thanks, John. - Thanks, Josh. - I go by J Wells. We have fun on our Mark Claire project, and we're just bringing that over till that came with fire. And yeah, 26 years, my homie, Sean, and I have been creating, being silly, and just trying to enjoy life, you know? We met up there in the Bay Area. That's where Sean's at. I'm currently down in Los Angeles, serving my country in the United States Air Force. And it's an interesting life. It's an interesting life down here. But, you know, it's been fun. I can talk career stuff, whatever you want to talk about. But I like the creative stuff, music, digital graphics, all that kind of stuff. That's what me and Sean me getting into. This podcast adventure. - Heck yeah. - Brandon, super inspirational for me to say, you know what, let's do that. So, it's cool to get the call and say, let's team up and let's have a chat. And I like where you guys are going, Chris. You guys are tearing it up. - Oh, thanks, Sean. - I appreciate that, man. - You're definitely seniors in this game, for sure. - Yeah. - We're excited to have you guys here too. And like one of the things that Brendan and I have talked about this extensively, but like the podcast game and the democratization of information on the internet is so amazing. 'Cause like if you think about the fact that, you know, like a hundred years ago, even, in order to, for a person to put their collective knowledge into work or something to save it for their children and their children's children, whatever, you had to be able to write or you had to be able to publish. Like you could journal if you wanted, but that's not gonna reach anybody. You know, maybe you give it to your kid, maybe your kid reads it, maybe he doesn't. But like, you had to be able to write that was the only way to preserve knowledge, right? Or you had the oral tradition and you could tell some of your story. And they would pass off. But then it's like a giant game of telephone. You got the podcast space now. And I think that it's one of the greatest things that's happened to human, like the preservation of knowledge where we can talk to each other, because you have like some random like Detroit auto worker or a plumber from say like Kansas City. And he can get on a podcast if he wants, like, you know, we use Riverside here, but there's like Streamlabs, there's, you know, all kinds of stuff. You can get as deep into it as you want. And he could just, he could just sit down and talk about how to properly line up a joint, how you do, you know, this, that, like, how to solder. And like he can preserve this knowledge and talk to a guy in Japan on this at the same time on the same day. And that guy was like, man, I'm really glad that I found this on the internet because I was just trying to figure out how to do this in my own house. And isn't that kind of like an amazing thing that we can do? - Yeah, it's like a digital library of Alexandria. - Of everything that ever existed. And it's kind of amazing. And I'm glad that we have it. - It is amazing. - That's one of the reason I'll-- - It's scary at the same time. - And then jump off of it, but that's why, like, free speech is so important. And that's why the people that try to censor people on the internet, like, dude, just let people go at it. And then the people that have good information and the best ideas let them win. Like, just let us fight, dude. - Yeah. - You know, because there's some people who are like, ah, there's too much misinformation. And I'm like, as soon as I hear misinformation, I hear, oh, so people are saying things you don't like. - Yeah. - Yeah. - That's all I hear, you know. - I'm all for free speech, just not speech I don't like. - Yeah, well, I got a bad thing to tell you, dude. Hate speech is free speech. - It is, yeah. - Don't cry about it. - Yeah. - Yeah, they think that it is powerful, right? Like, this is incredible. Like, we were able to sync up with our cell phones, laptops, whatever it is, microphones are incredible tool. So we just have, you can do so much with it, podcasts. - And there's a song. - For the song. - Whatever it is. - Well, and then on top of that, like, apes together strong, right? Like, you say thank you for us having you on. Like, dude, thank you for coming on. Because like, the truth is, we're forming like, little groups on the internet of like-minded individuals that are going out there and we're telling people, no, you're not crazy. Yes, other people feel like you. Yes, we're all seeing the same thing. You're not nuts. No, we don't like men going into women's bathrooms. No, we don't like, you know, in just insert issue. No, we don't like people trying to kill babies that are nine months old. No, we don't like the raiders. I'm gonna double down on that one. No, we don't like, but it's like, you're dealing with like the censorship regime, you know, like on TikTok and these other giant platforms. And they're trying to convince you that the world is a certain way, right? My granddad taught me when I was like nine years old, you know, he said, don't believe anything you hear in only half of what you see. And if he was still alive today, I wish I could show my granddad the internet with AI because oh my God, was he correct? Oh my God. And he didn't even know like how bad it was before. He just watched CNN. I'll say it again, bro, that I'm just waiting for the day that I'm in court and I'm watching a video of me doing something absolutely illegal, but it's not me. And it's an AI version of me that is so indistinguishable from real life that everybody thinks it's me and I'm fucked because that shit is coming a lot sooner than you think it is, dude. I'm just thinking about like last year that video, the picture, it is both an incident not to that scale has already happened, right? Think of when they circulated that image of the Pentagon on fire, right? There was an attack on the Pentagon. It was an AI generated image and that caught all the attention. You know, I blame AI, I blame the news cycle. The same thing with what happened to that, the border crossing there in Canada and New York. Within an hour, it was all kinds of these, it's a terrorist attack. Here are the passports of the people that were in that car even though it exploded and these passports are magically made of an indestructible material, right? It's like give everything a few hours before you start digesting and making an opinion. Wasn't there a movie that they did that on, dude? Where there was a, like somebody hijacked the news waves and they were showing like a terrorist attack on the Capitol building in DC. And then the main character is like inside of a, he's inside of like a shop and he's like watching it on his screen and on the computer screen and you see like the Capitol building go up in flames and he like runs outside and he looks down the street 'cause he can see the Capitol building and it's fine. - That was in a movie, that was in a movie. - That was in a movie and the whole one of that movie you better get some rights on that. - Right, I'll watch it. - But no, that was a hundred percent in a movie and the whole point was the dude he created like a, there it was, yeah, well, yeah, yeah, it happens once and you go live it. - Is Shaya? Is it Shaya or is it Shaya? - Shaya, Shaya. - Shaya, the booth, the booth. - That dude's a trip. - He is bro. - There's an interesting redemption arc. - You guys are now AI, man. - Actually, that's it, the podcast was happening. - I was here. - No, it only takes 17 minutes. That's the best. - Do you prove you're not a robot, click on something. - Yes, right. - Bro, how many bicycles do you see in this frame? - Did you hear about that AI that actually got one of those capture tests to try to get online and went on Reddit and made a post and asked somebody to operate on their behalf to pass the test so that they continue the process that it was doing? - Really? - Yeah. - I've heard that that's a problem. - I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I robot. We're all gonna die. - Bro. - I do like those memes where it's like, it shows just like the jungle and it's like in order to get to the next screen, it was like, find all the VC in this thing. - Oh, look at this thing. - Exactly. You can't. - What? - The tunnel. - My name is the Lord and I speak for the trees. The trees speak me and the me. - Yeah, exactly. - Bro. - Oh man. - With this AI thing, you don't even need to ask the right question. Like, something showed up on my feet and it was like, it had all these questions like, what do you wanna know? Just click it and I was like, okay. I'm gonna ask you a couple of questions. It gave me bunch of information on its own. I was like, bro, I didn't even have to come up with a question. It's like, what do you wanna ask? It gave me like six different options. I was like, let me just learn. It was just the Bay Bridge picture. It was like, it was telling me how I was built. All of this shit. I was like, it's kind of dope. I kind of went to school in the morning like, on your drive to work. - But it's like, bro, honestly, I'm learning more by hanging out with you guys and just like on some social media and like, the stuff we've learned in school, we could have done that in like a couple of weekends. Just by scrolling. - No, for real. - But this is a tribal thing. This is a parabola. This is that like, that's a couple of scrolls. You don't have to have me go way over there in the morning. - Yeah. - No, man, the internet in general, not just AI, right? Chat GPT has definitely changed up the game when it's come to school. You know, like, my fucking chat out my brother, right? He uses Chat GPT pretty often to help him write papers 'cause it shows him like formats and stuff like that. It's like, hey, how do I, you know, what do I need to do for Terabian style citations and all this shit? I wanna do everything for you, man. And it's at the same time that people need to understand this and I'll say this that I want people to really take it hard is that AI is a net neutral, okay? AI becomes net good or net bad or bad or good when humans do something to it. Just like anything else. It's a creation of humanity. Everything it knows, it's been taught. Everything it does learn, it learns, it deduces from everything that humanity puts in front of it, okay? And it can make decisions on its own to the point where you're talking about artificial general intelligence and whatever that looks like. I'm not an AI engineer. I'm not that intelligent. I'm not Sam Altman or these people from wherever, right? But at the same time, people gotta understand like, these things are tools until, you know, you teach it to do something that's either good or bad. It is just a tool. It's like the gun argument, right? A gun is a neutral object until you use it for either good or bad becomes whatever it is. And that's the same with AI. You can use it to cheat. You can use it to help you write something. You can use it to solve a math equation. You can use it to write script, you know, in Python or whatever you wanna do. It's a net neutral until it becomes either good or bad. And humanity, again, is the arbiter behind all of that. And people have to understand that. Is that this thing that you're afraid of is run and made by human beings. And you need to understand that it's a tool until it becomes a tool to do something you don't like. So don't be afraid of the tool. Be afraid of the people using the tool and running the tool and making the tool. That's the scariest part of your mistake. It is. - Well, at the end of the day, it has no moral compass and it has no common sense. - Right. - You can't say there those things. - It's common sense or it's moral compass, right? It can make decisions on its own. It's like a generic or unoriginal, unauthentic form of morality. 'Cause you can ask it questions and it will give you a moral insight into whatever it is. But you're essentially asking a machine to do something that is based on everything it knows about human beings. So it's like, it's a mask almost, which is scary. - I think what I was trying to say is like, well, human beings, right, you have a paradigm of the world that's built on experience, right? A machine doesn't have that. Like you actually interact with the world. Like a machine can't feel, taste, smell. - Correct. - See, right. The way that you do. - Right. - Like I'm reminded of a- - I would be doing lots of the human. - Right, I'm reminded of like a song tag, right? Because you and I, we go back and forth. If you guys don't know, Brandon's the cinephile and I'm the musician. Like, so we go back and forth, we kind of compliment each other. But there's a song line and a worship song that always gets me. And it says my eyes. - My eyes are- - You broke them. (laughing) - It was too quick, it was too quick. - Yeah, nailed it did. - Stop it, I'm up, he sees me, I'm done. So this, the tag is like, my eyes are small, but they have seen the beauty of enormous things, right? And so it's like, if you really break that down and you think about it, right? Like, could a machine understand exactly what you're saying? Well, it would go, well, yes, obviously the size of the globe of your eye is very small, but it can capture. It's like, that's not what I'm saying. That's not what I'm saying. Like, can you understand the metaphor? And that's where I'm going. Like a human being can take in. I have a small brain and I understand that I only have like one life to live and one lived experience and I'm filtering everything through the collected knowledge that I have that people have given me and then the benefit of the experiences that I've had along the way, right? Not to get too deep and philosophical, but then a human being has this amazing ability to also change. You know, like, we've seen it all the time. In fact, some of the most motivational people that we know I went through my entire life. I was an alcoholic, I was a drug addict, I was a derelict, I was, you know, a narrative well. I, you know, nobody liked me, nobody did anything and like cared about me. And then all of a sudden I come to a point where I hated myself so much, I hit rock bottom, I turned it all around, I started working out. And I did this and like my whole paradigm shifts and changes, a computer literally can't do that. - Yeah. - It's only gonna spit out, like Brandon said, it's only going to if then and it will continue along that path that will be then, that's my point. There's no empathy to it. Because it can't filter anything through any level of emotion. - The scary thing about AI, 'cause you're right, it can't empathize with you as a human, 'cause it doesn't have a lived experience. But when you ask AI a question, if you are one of the people running it, you're an AI engineer and you're watching it, make a decision, AI rationalizes based on what it thinks you wanna see, okay? Or things you wanna hear. And the scary thing about it is if you ask it a question and it'll say, well, what does he think I want him to know? Or what does he think, or what does he want me to think or say to him? And it will use deductive reasoning, which is something that humans do, right? And it takes into account your response and the way it interprets the way you're typing to it, right? So in a way, it is measuring your emotional response. - It's likely analyzing you. - It is, which is scary. Because it will say, okay, well, I don't think this person is going to like this answer, so I'm going to give you this answer. And this is the one I think you want to see, right? And I'm not, again, I'm not an AI engineer. I don't understand completely how all this works in any way, shape or form. But it will get really, really scary, I think here. And between now and the next 10 years, just think of the last 10 years that an iPhone has evolved, okay? A artificial intelligence right now can take 20 years worth of vaccine research and do it in minutes, okay? Just think of that. Think of the way that it can change technology in 10 years. Like, we already do a bad job. - But it can only see the statistics that are uploaded, like uploaded to the databases that it has access to by fallible human beings. - Right, but the process is that you use in medicine that take years to do, right? It can do in minutes and they already do that, right? So the point I'm trying to make is is that we have failed, I think, at evolving alongside technology because we every single day combat either the use of it or the way it's used to manipulate us, okay? And it has moved subtly along with us and in ways it's advanced beyond us. And AI absolutely is evidence of that. So in 10 years, right, think of just how much faster technology is going to be moving, okay? And how much different life can look? And to me, that's the scary part because you have no idea, I have no idea what it's going to look like. The things that are public information about this thing, this is not what Sam Altman knows or whoever is doing these things. They know things. There was that whole debacle last year about Sam Altman getting removed and then coming right back. And the assertion was that there was so sort of AGI breakthrough, which is terrifying, you know? And in a lot of different ways because it doesn't take long before, right, it doesn't take long before somebody who shouldn't have power over this or power alongside this, right? And it's doing things that they shouldn't be doing. And who knows already? I'm sure there's a lot of that going on. They just use that photo of Kate Middleton from the UK. They did that photo of her with her kids, right? The princess or whatever she is. And everybody realized almost immediately like this is an AI generated photo, you know? So they're already using it and that's not really a big deal, right? But it is. And so far as it's being pushed off as actual news when reality, it's a lie. - Yeah, I think it's an interesting shift in technology innovations. And you see a whole boom in cybersecurity, you know? 'Cause I mean, if you're gonna have this network, oh, well, I'm a cash guy. So I believe in the power of cash money. Not like the rappers, but we had to put it in any case. You know, like if you start eliminating cash, then what happens? You know, we are subject to the system and this system is super vulnerable. So the further we go deeper into having that electronic funds or wherever our transactions are, the more protections we need for us to have secure finances. And it's gonna be, I mean, if the power goes out and all that other stuff, then what are we exchanging? How many people do you know? If you had 10 people in your circle right now, say, "Hey, man, how much cash you got on you?" - Well, that's a thing, man. If something like that happens, it comes down to only things humans can do. What services can you do for me? What can I do to keep you safe or provide you with something in a way that you can mutually reciprocate for me on the same level, you know? And those are ways that AI or whatever, at least at this point, you can't reciprocate in that way. - Right, yeah. - But imagine April Fool's Day on some AI stuff. - It's gonna get out, everybody. - No. - It's designed for that, man, you know? - Well, dude, I mean, think of like, I mean, I was born in '87, right? So, and Josh, you said you're, I think you're born '84 based on your email account, just like me, but yeah. Hell yeah, that's such a millennial thing to do, right? - Absolutely, yeah. - It is, dog, right? Yeah, the last four of my social, my birth year, and my kids first come, and email.com, right? Yeah, gbills.com, right? - Here's my password, email, email. - Exactly. Joe, '84, '94 at, yeah, exactly. But anyway, no, man. Like, I kind of lost my trade of thought now that we were laughing about making a funny, you're fucking working. - Yeah, remember it, do you remember the early 2000s, like Florida F-150s? They started putting those like, a number of panels on the door, so you get like, punching your code? - Mm-hmm, yeah. - Like, I, I lost count of like, how many bros that I've had, where you're just like, trying to like, drunk get them from the bar to their truck, and you're like, you get to their truck, and you're like, dude, when were you, when were you born, 1992? And you're like, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. The truck opened, and you're like, I knew, how did I know that, dude? - Yeah, it's always something, something close and easy to remember. - Every time. - What's your wife's birthday? Aw, shit, I don't know. - What's your dog's name? - Well, yeah, what's your dog's name? Hold on, let's look. - Mm-hmm, yep. - The point I was trying to make, I remember now, is that their boomers get tricked all the time on the internet. - All the time. - And it doesn't even need to be that sophisticated. It's a phishing email saying, you want an iPad, and all you gotta do is put in your social security number into this very secure forum that we've emailed to you conveniently, right? - Yeah. - But just imagine us as millennials, like, what kind of fucking scams are gonna be orchestrated on us when we're 65? - They don't have to go hard, bro, 'cause we ain't that gullible. - They are, they are gonna have to go hard, but, but-- - Well, by then, we're all gonna be tied in a neural link, and they're just gonna send it straight to your head, and you're gonna be walking on the street, and you're gonna be like, "I think there's actually a minute." And somebody's like, "What's happening?" - He's like, "You having a slasher?" - My hands are overheating. - Exactly, just 'cause Steve could have his vision. - I will, I will literally get you in your room right now. Unless you send me $100,000. You're gonna be like, "Just switch it out on the sidewalk." What happened to him? He's getting scammed, acting like shit. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Imagine getting scammed as somebody like you. - You're gonna take your little neurochip out. - Oh, right. Just get you to do something you know in the middle of the street. - You are. - You know, it's funny we're talking about all this stuff, but like, I keep bringing it back to like, actual media. Remember the movie, The Kingsman? - Oh yeah. - Yeah. - They were doing that. They were talking about this in The Kingsman, where all of the world leaders were, they were getting the neural implants that had the ability to have a signal sent to him. And then they sent away into like, small bunkers so that because of climate change, they could kill everybody in the way. Dude, like all of this stuff has been talked about. I'm actually starting to become convinced that we've been watching these movies and these TV shows for decades now. - The Neuralink's already in. - But they've been telling us exactly what they want to do. - Oh shit. - They've been saying it. Like I'm truly convinced these people, and they're so, like, they're so much hubris that they're like, this is too good not to write a movie about this. - That's the bold move. - The celebs will still go watch it. - Is it art imitating life or life imitating art though? - That's an interesting question, the chicken and the egg. - Let's answer it dude. - Art imitating life or life imitating art, Josh, what do you think? - I think it's a blend of both because sometimes, you know, it works in a cycle. You know what I mean? Like you see, you know, in four of fact, all four of us can say there was some time where we watched something like X-Men. We all talked about Saturday morning cartoons earlier, right? - Oh yeah. - Great show. The X-Men, right? Everybody's like, oh shoot, I'm gonna go outside and start doing your stuff. - Right. - We do that, you know, so in life we imitate the art that we feel the time. - First of all, if you never put, if you never put three pencils in your hands and it was like, I'm wolverine, were you even born in the 90s dude, did you even live there? You haven't even lived yet if you haven't done this. (laughing) - You can take Helen notes with that. - I love those, I love those, I love those reels where it's like stupid stuff 90s kids did. Where it's like you take the mechanical pencil and you like put the lead all the way out and then put it up to your skin. - And then you have like, you're jabbing it in. - Bro, we're just making you use the leg at it. - Yup. - Josh, we didn't have cameras back then. If I would have recorded so much of Josh would do it. - Oh shit. - He would have been like a kid putting glue on his hand and like peeling it off and be like. - Peeling it off? - Yeah. - Yeah, peeling it off. - But again, shopping cards can push him down the hill. (laughing) - That looks like a flange like a lot of the brain damage, you know? - Yeah, this is, where am I? - I did that, I did that with my brother once on a street board and I pushed him down the hill. - Oh yeah. - Out back in this one church that we lived at for about a year, we had this like parking lot that was just on like a 45 degree end plane, you know? Incline, and I put my brother on a skateboard and I just pushed him down the parking lot as fast as we could get it, like lose board fast. The problem was at the end of the parking lot, it hit this like retaining wall and it just dropped off like 12 feet. - Oh man. - So I pushed him so fast that he could not like stop. He was like, Chris stop and I wasn't gonna stop. Like the plan was once I got him to terminal speed, I was gonna keep it. And he was like, stop, stop, stop. And I was like, no, no, stop. And I just like, whoa, man, it was like up fast. And he was like, ah, and he hit the edge of that hill and just launched off that hill and like splatted into this person's house. Like I pushed him probably four, five, six feet on the other side of this retaining wall. And he just hit, he hit this house like a bug hitting a wall 60 miles an hour. Just what? And then he like peeled down and just splatted. And then the funniest part of the story was the lady came out of her back door and she was like, what the hell? She came running around and he, here's me. My brother's laying down there with a bloody nose. Like just laying down there with a skateboard. What did I do? Sorry, he's just really enthusiastic about shopping. - Not even, I cut, dude, I cut. I was like, that's hilarious. Ah, I ran back to my house. And I was like, John can deal with that problem, dude. - Go to my camera. - Let me go get, that's the thing. You said earlier, thank God, Josh didn't have a camera. - Oh, we did though. - Could you imagine if-- - Oh, look at my space to fish in Otto. - If we had-- - Yeah, a little-- - 'Cause he said cameras. - Back in the 1990s that we could just film everything that we did back then. Could you imagine? - Bro, I'd either be a TikTok superstar or only fans, whatever, no? - Only fans, yeah. - Or in jail. - Yeah, yeah. (laughs) - Like most of us would be in jail. Let's just be honest. - He said, let me plug my feet finder account real fast. - Yeah. - Oh my god, send it real quick. - Right. (laughs) - Stick finder. - By the way, John. - By the way, John, if you see this episode, I'm sorry I did that too. - Oh, yeah. - That's rough, though. - It's the remorse. - It's the remorse. - Just a John. (laughs) - Just a John on a skateboard. - That's right, yeah. - Who were the neighbors? You gotta apologize to them, Chris. You splattered their wall. I don't even remember the neighbor's name. We only live there for a year or so, but this is so-and-so. I'm sorry if I've got his boomers anyway, let's not walk in. - He's in shopping cards at their house. - Who knows their neighbor's name? - He's a skateboard. - None of my neighbor's name. - You know what, Sean? - You have my neighbor's names. - You know him? - As I was, Sean. - That doesn't mean I like them, you know, it's none of their names. - I don't know, gosh, yeah. - Yeah. But no, that's another big deal. It's like, the fact that you just said that, that's another reason that we're in these problems. I don't know by neighbor's names. Because it used to be like when my parents like kicked us out of the house, right? Like my mom would be like, be home when the street light comes on. And we had that timed out and she didn't know where we were going because we would go hang out in the woods. - Bro. - You know, by my house. - For real. - We would go down the street. We would go up to the community center. We would go like a mile away over to the lake. Like we would go anywhere. It was just be home by the time the street lights run. - Wow, now dude. - My street light by my parents' house was the last one that came on at the end of the night. They would click on at the edge of town and they would go click, click, click. And there were some nights when I was a kid, I was like 13, 14 years old. We were racing the street lights home. Just like, 'cause we could see them clicking on and we're just like coming home because if I didn't get home by the time the last street light was on, my-- - Come on then, Joe. - I'm gonna type lights. - I'm gonna type lights. - I'm gonna type lights. - Yeah, I'm gonna type lights. - Yeah. Yeah. - It says like, click, click, click, click, click, click, click. - Hell yeah. - Also, what I didn't realize back then was that if my mom ever needed me, she would just pick up the phone and call the neighbors. Have you seen my kids? - Yeah. - And they'd be like, uh, we saw them up the street, you know, just a few minutes ago or whatever. Like as a community, we could just deal with our problems. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Well, you know, and it's like-- - Talk about for a second, about how the internet and technology was meant to bring people together, but in massive ways, all it's done is created disconnected people and people who don't trust each other more than they used to trust one another, like you said. 'Cause without a doubt, I mean, I grew up, and I'll say this too, right, full disclosure. I grew up on military housing most of my life, so it's a little different, and that's fair to say. But my mom knew, all the moms up the street both left right and up the middle, for sure, because she knew if I was going left or right, wherever she could call somebody and she knew the people's houses that I frequented and took the opportunity to introduce yourself and all these things, and people don't do that anymore that I've seen, right? - Yeah. - And it's just, it's so different. And I, dude, I could tell you right now, there is shit that I did, and I think about how far I used to just go at nine or 10 years old. Dude, I have no idea how my parents were fucking cool with that. It's just a totally different time, because I was down the street, exactly, man. I was down the street, hanging out of the strip mall, because I rode my bike down the massive hill behind the housing unit, and there's people walking all over the place, it's just like one of these things where it's like, something that things could happen to me. - It's a commercial from the 90s. - Yeah, it's 10pm, do you know where your kids are? - I saw it the other day. I shared it on my Facebook, 'cause it is creepy, though. Like, it's way creepier than I remember. It's like, a lopper. What's Cindy lopper? And like, it's like the creepiest artists that are asked to do that tag. And I'll share it to you guys so you can put post it in. - She does, it's just creepy with like a human being. - I'm not gonna steal your kids. Here's Rick rolling people out. - Right, yes. - The original click roll. - I don't know. - Yeah, I was just gonna take him home. (laughing) - That's a good remix, bro. - I appreciate you, dude. - That's a pain, dad. - It's a pain, dad. - I have a question for you guys. - Have you guys, have you guys-- - Oh, you got Josh. - Where it's like Rick, Rick, Rick Astley for president. - No, I've never seen him. - Because why? And then you click on it and it's like-- - He's never gonna give you up. - Never gonna let you down. - He's never gonna let you down. - It's actually like a legit motivating reason to vote for him. - Then it's true, man. - I've been letting you down a lot. - It's mixed man, Sean, I'm sorry. What were you gonna say, bro? - No problem, bro. So, question for you guys, how did you guys meet? Can you share some of that experience? 'Cause I know sorry is what brings you guys together, right? So, I'm not gonna ask-- - So, I'll tell you. - So, I was in a dark alley one night and I felt something in my butt. I turned around and-- - I was just-- (laughing) - It's Thailand, though, so it's okay. - It's Thailand, it's not Thailand. - So, it's okay, right? And we had just both walked out of the same sweatshop. We didn't even realize it. - It's weird, man. - Yeah, Chris, Chris got some dress screens-- - Don't stop and tell your shoes in Bangkok. - That's all I'm saying. - It's true, yeah. They call it Bangkok for a reason, if you know what I'm saying. - That's right, baby. - But no, you don't wanna know that the God's honest truth is Chris and I have actually never met face to face. - Would you? - No, how did you guys connect? How did you guys know? - So, there's a lot of stories there. - This is a lot of stories there. - Well, I was just gonna say that there is a mutual person that sort of, like, in an indirect way, could have linked us together. But, you know, Aaron Love, we've had him on the podcast a few times, he's on One's Ready podcast. But, him and Chris actually used to live really close-- - Aaron Love's America, I'll go ahead and shout out. - If you guys don't fall on the page, everybody fall on the page. - You need to, dude, it's an amazing page. Aaron is a former Air Force PJ, he's retired now, badass dude. - True patriot. - True patriot absolutely loves this country. Anyway, but they actually used to live, not that far from one another, and kind of figured out that they're both in medicine, put it that way. And then, I remember seeing Aaron sharing Chris's page and being like, "Let's get this guy to a thousand followers, "it won't be hard, and I want him to check it out." And I really dug Chris's logo, the Abraham Lincoln penny with the green beret on, and gave him a follow. If Aaron says he's cool, I believe in him. And then, I think just indirectly, Chris kind of found me that way too, 'cause I've had Aaron on the podcast a couple times, Aaron I'm sure, I hate my fire stuff fairly often. And so, it's just like one of those things where like, Instagram, social media brought us together, and we send each other cute pics every day too. And that's just how it is. - Sure, I think I texted you earlier today, this is the God's honest truth. What are you wearing tonight? - He did. - I meant on the show. - I'm not your panties. - Yeah, I did. - I wonder if that's a total of this. - There's a lot of bromance. - It's true, dude. - We are a bromantic over here, yeah, yeah. - If you're friends with somebody and it doesn't get slightly homoerarotic, what the fuck are you doing? - That's awesome. - You're not even actually at all, right? - Yeah, that's awesome. - Especially in the military, remember? - It is. - Yeah. - Listen, bro. - When you shout around with 200 other dudes, what does he want to say for? - Gen Z. - Oh, jeez. - Oh, jeez. - Z what? - It's a joke. - That's it. - Yeah, no, I get it, man. They are a joke. - Ooh, yes. - Anyway. - No, you know what, actually, I'm going to push back on that just a little bit. And my evidence is going to be, do you remember seeing the UNC bros holding up the flag? - Oh, of course. - During that protest. - I think that-- - It's not the rule, though. - No, it is. It's the exception, but here's the reason I say like, let's not dunk on Gen Z. Like, if we dunk on them too much. - Yeah. - First of all, we're not being good teachers, we're not being good mentors. What we need to be doing is taking Gen Z. And I like dunking on Gen Z as much as anybody. You, kids, with your, you know, it's like, I do. But, but-- - It's scoring on your little brother when you play soccer in the backyard. - When, or I was going to say, basketball or-- - I'm conventionally going to cry in mod, you know what I mean? It's like seeing that retarded kid in the back of gym class and just tagging him in the face with a dodge ball because you can. Again, they shouldn't have filmed us when we were-- Right, they shouldn't have filmed us in the 90s, but if they would have-- - Oh, yeah. - It would have been amazing. My point is, taking a step back from the side of me that just wants to punch down and kind of putting on, it is what we need to be doing. And if we're being honest with ourselves-- - You're right. - We really should. We need to be taking these boys under our wing. We need to be teaching-- - And girls. - And we need to be, well, you know, like, go learn how to make a sandwich and work the dishwasher and all this stuff. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Like, only slightly. - Hey, slightly. - I am kidding. - I love sandwiches, dude. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I want to hear about your sandwich earlier. - If you-- - Why do I can make four? Make four sandwiches, just kidding. - All of that, all of us here. - All of that, all of us here. - That's right. - That's right. - And therefore, I was here. - If you keep his balls empty and his stomach full, you'll never be without a husband. That's all I'm saying. - That's the classic, dude. That's it, man. - Yeah. - Guys are simple, dude. Listen, it's-- - It's testing, though. - You got me to do that, right? - Gandhi has to do that. - I don't know, bro. - But Gandhi was in his cave-- - I got it. - Gandhi was in his cave with-- - I'm like then shot for the wind, dude, right there. - He was in his cave fasting with these kids, though, so he just gets to do that. That's a lesson less talked about, fact about Gandhi. - There's a little pedophilia going on there. - Yeah, something strange. - Some strange marches and protesting. No, it's true, amongst the salt marching and the protesting against the British Empire, there was some really questionable shit going on. Just saying. - He was up 'cause I'm bad stuff. - We need to take Gen Z under our wing, we really do, and we need to pass them the torch. We gotta give them a rock and let them run. Because if we don't, like, we're done. Like, millennials, we're already phasing out. People don't realize this, we're already phasing out. - Millennial doesn't mean you're young anymore. - No, it means you're middle aged. - I'm getting ready to get shoulder surgery next week, guys. - I'm coming to you to find out that you're a doctor. - It's my left hand, it's my left shoulder. - You're a stranger, you're a stranger. - You're a stranger, they tend. - Too much stranger danger, right? - I'm going to double shoulder surgery. - I shouldn't have said that with Josh. - Okay, so I like this topic a lot. 'Cause it's fun. - Me too. - So GWAT is my era of service. I came in '04, still serving, do my thing. It's gone from one perspective to another. And I think, like you said, our era of people is also fading into a different demographic of age. But we have, like, this huge blend, you know, 'cause we have a lot of people, a lot of people in service that are not just enlisted or commissioned officers, but like our civil servants as well. So you have all of these Gen Xers, the big mixture. I used to hear all the time, one of my tours 10 years ago at military training instructor at the boot camp, watching it all go down. And this was like, at the end of a big, bad scandal they had at a lacklenor force case. A lot of maltreatment, maltraining, all kinds of stuff was changed because of that. Big, huge domino effect, so. - Yeah. - Like I would hear people, I still hear people say, oh kids these days, oh this generation, blah blah blah. But those motherfuckers are doing the same exact behaviors. They're just old doing them. So like, it's an era thing. It's not just like the generation. So I defend the youngsters all the time. I believe in them. And I know you guys have had some guests on that talked about like how things are currently. And there are groups to those things. But I believe in these kids and I believe in, like you said, if we challenge people, they will rise to the challenge. - I'm so glad to hear you say that. One of the things that my wife and I, well, I'm gonna give Mrs. CFC like all the credit rooms I can't take it, but like one of the things that she says is if you treat boys like men, then they'll act like men. If you treat men like boys, then they'll act like boys. - That's just the way that it is. So on that, I just wanna add to what you were saying, you can't take away from the standard, right? Like the standard is the standard. It is the thing that created all of us. So I will never be when there's all of these conversations about lowering the standard because we wanna make sure that more people can get into the military and so on and so forth. Absolutely not. You're going about it the wrong way. - For sure. - You are going after the wrong people. - You are? - Mm-hmm. - The dude that you want is like the same guy that we were in the 90s. You guys remember that the Marine Corps has always been better at this than all of us. - I know you're talking about it. - The Army is the lava monster. - The lava sword dude. - The dragon dude, yeah. - The dragon. - He's the fucking dress blues and shit. - Yeah, this fucking class A slaying dragon is with a rapier. - And if you're out there and you're a Marine and you listen to us, like put it down in the comments, that guy's so many people. - They know why they do what they do with that. - It almost got me. - Of course they do. - The only reason the Marines didn't get me is because my father begged me not to join the Marines. - I thought you were gonna say you had a crown analogy. - Whatever. - I love those guys. (laughs) - I do, I love-- - He's like I'm allergic to wax. - Yeah, my big thing is all the time is I absolutely hate Marines. I hate Marines. I've never met a Marine that I like. But I love, I love the United States Marine Corps. God bless the United States Marine Corps. I've never met a Marine that I like and my brother-in-law is a Marine. And I still have never met a Marine that I like. - That's too funny. - Yeah. - But God bless them, man. God bless every single one. - It wasn't like a, remember our manager, like it wasn't even-- - Right, Sean and I have the first, like our first job together, actually after high school, Safeway, who made raps about it and everything. It was a good time. - I have to. - How you be hittin' around, Sean, you coming to work, you pick me up and it's made me innocent. - Hey, can you guys please take the next five, 10 minutes and tell us about Mark clear project. Tell everybody about it. This is your time, man. - You want the OG story, Sean? Should we give him the origin? - We do. - Hey. - Hey. - All the dirty details. - So all the fights. - Ironically enough, we just did a podcast episode. - You guys also met in Thailand, right? - You been over the place. - Close, yeah. - Close enough. - Nice enough. - Yeah, yeah. - I can't vote you. - I can't vote you actually. - You happy? - Yeah. - Well, I might have to go. - He's like, yeah. - Sounding a lot of fun over here. - Yeah, a lot of Bangkok. - Yeah, we did episode 12 with the Mark clear project story for our tuning in podcast, and we actually, you know, wanted to talk about that and get it out of the way, you know, you gotta get out of your system. But in that, we had a good time and got to like, you know, hit the greatest hits of how we have kept our friendship alive, you know, as long as we have, it's friendships are super important. And that's what you'll see is you come follow along with our creations, whether it's our social media, goofing around with our friends and stuff. But it was all really on music. Sean had just gotten to America from India. He grew up in Punjab, India, came to America. We met in the eighth grade, both a little bit nerdy when it comes to the music stuff. And in high school, we were like, I was playing guitars, Sean's like, bro, should come over, we'll record some shit. He had the computer stuff and doing like, producer stuff in the house. So we just started like, making funny songs about our teachers, you know? Actually, we made a rap song about Jesus. And yeah, right? We did all kinds of stuff about just silly things. So I'm going to manager. Yep. About how we're doing, how we're doing stuff. Were you like one of those kids in any influence by like Ravi Shankar? Like who is like your influence over there? No, Ravi Shankar is more like an international guy? Mm-hmm. Okay. Oh, like the Beatles and them were friends of the Ravi, you know what I mean? So he was kind of like, yeah, yeah, yeah, no doubt. No, George Jones is his kid, right? So like in the villages and shit, we thought that was boring. Oh, okay, weird. 'Cause like, I'm not gonna say hey, you're just like, going off for like an hour. He's like a solo. Right. You know what I mean? That's for the, right. I don't know, should I? Just classical songs. Like somebody's like, hey, let's do this Mozart, bro. That's crazy. It's like, as a kid, you like, bro, get this out of here. Right? I tried to, some of the Power Rangers theme song again today. I did, I did, I did. Sean, you would like this though. I saw a reel the other day where somebody was like, could you imagine what it would have been like if Bach had been in like the year 2000? And so like all these dudes like crowded into a car. He would be a damn artist, dude. I don't know, I don't know. They crowded into a car. They crowded into a car. And they were like, they were like, bro, bro. Right. Bach just dropped number five. And they were like, no. And they like slammed the CD in and they're like listening. And he'd be like, oh, oh, oh, oh. And they were like, oh, fuck that answer. That's right. Fuck that answer. What's that? Hot fire rapper, fake rapper that he does the battle wraps. And he falls back in the crowd. Oh, yeah, dude. He's trying to get a cable on this. You know what I'm saying? Keep it going. Let me get shit. Yeah, and also for music wise, bro, I was just listening to like local music or local artists because it was like, I'm from like the cassette generation, you know, where we had cassettes. But like, couldn't really afford a bunch of cassettes. So like we just had a few, but it was just a mix of like stuff that was coming out of the UK, a lot of the movie stuff and like majority of our local Punjabi stuff. That's like our local language. So it was just like a lot of folk, stories and folk songs. Punjabi used to have a lot of good fucking metal music too, man. People don't realize that. I'm just going to throw this out there. I didn't play in India. I didn't play. I've been playing guitars since I was eight. Hell yeah, that's bad. I got all my stuff still set up from when I used to do her. If you guys didn't do like guitar loops or anything. Like we didn't even know, man. Okay, hell yeah. We're going to send me, send me your stuff. I'll put some loops on it, dude. Yeah, it's good. Since we're talking about metal. I saw mega death in India. Hell yeah. Oh, that's sick. No, no, David Blaine, he was backstage and I was like, so he was like, you know, I got to go. I was like, can I take a picture? I was like, bro, can I take a picture? He's like, let me go perform with you. You know, I was like, oh, she disappeared. It was like a real. Yeah, they just levitated off. Yeah, David Blaine with Dave Mustaine. And people were going crazy. I was like, dude, it's like, it's like a big metal speed in India, right? Yeah, he's just like, I went by, but now I'm in New Delhi that took five seconds. David Blaine, you know, and literally grow and now. Oh, wait, hold on. David Blaine. Oh, and then I seen him in the, like, hotel lobby. And I tried to tell them, I was like, bro, I'm from America. I speak a little English. What's that? Hello, you know, and then he pulled a card. Out of my underwear. Me, Niebrahl, mixed man Sean. I'm from America. Right. Seriously. But it was a real mix. It goes right now. I don't know what's going on. But like, bro, like India got a big EDMC in two-day. A bunch of everything was like, people like music out there. Yeah. You know, that's all right. Me and Josh went to. You know, who gave me Sean? Denver City. I'm sorry, guys. I'm sorry. You know, who gave me? No, you're good. My first CD came from Jala, so he's like, yeah. No doubt, dude. I was like, why do you listen to this shit, this shit, this shit? Because I bro, listen to the-- That's funny. Like, cause it was a good car. I like them, but the better musician is tabla artist. What's his name? Shakira, Shakira, son. Shakira, son. So much more fucking mind-blowing than Ravi Schonier. Not to, not to do Ravi Schonier, though. It's how he is. He is. He is. But it's confident that he's here. So come back around. So you guys met in middle school and Sean, you were just, you were just over from India and then bring me, bring me current. Like, so you guys got together, you started listening to music and then what, what next? Well, I think, uh, Sean, what do you think? Um, when we started doing that stuff, like, we got to senior year and we're like, bro, we got to get some jobs. You know what I mean? Like, say, yeah, I can't do this shit no more for free. My career's taken off yet. Yeah. So my thing was, I was like, bro, I'm just learning to speak like, uh, what are you going to do? Josh, like, yeah, but here's the app. Filled it up. We're going to go to work. Brought you a dictionary, bro. Get at it. Dude, we had them. We had them for songwriting, all kinds of shit. But it was like old school computer use, you know, we went to college together too. We used to be a library. You put on little libraries, no more. We used to be a library, nerds. Facts. I love the library. But the, uh, you guys are, you guys are way more romantic than we are. Facts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love those. I tell them, right? You guys seem like you're like, a real day married. Yeah, right. Well, you know, I hope that anybody that can have a friend, um, as long as I have, has, can keep that alive. It's fucking, you look around, bro. Like a lot of people don't have lifelong friends. You know what I mean? It's really a point. They don't. It's unfortunate. But like, I have friends, you know, on Facebook and shit. Yeah. Because people are like genuine. When they first get to know you, they're like, oh, this is that. And then the layers start becoming, you become aware of what the layers really are. But that's the thing. What have you done for me lately? Yes. There's always an exchange versus like, um, like that. Real friendships don't have that expectation that there will be something in return. And there's too much transactional friendship nowadays. Thanks. I think, I think, uh, one of the things that I count as like a true friendship is can you sit in a car or a room with somebody and not speak to the silence and just, and just be with them. Can you do that? Because if you, if you can, and you too can just like hang out and coexist without talking to each other, that's somebody that's going to be there for you. Like when you pick up the phone and you're like, hey, I need to hide a body. Or like, can you enjoy the same song together without like. Without talking. Music is such a good unifier. Because I don't feel like I owe you something and I don't feel like I need something from you. I was, uh, this happened to me actually with one of my teammates from my, uh, my ODA the other day. And like, you know, he was just like, hey, man, you want to go to Kedobo, go get some lunch. Yeah. We got in the truck. We drove all the way to Kedobo. But I haven't been to Kedobo for days. We didn't say anything the whole way to Kedobo. We didn't say, we didn't say a damn word all the way to Kedobo. We got out. We talked in the way in. Got our food, got back in the truck, drove back to the team room, didn't say a word. Yeah. The whole time. And it was fine because it was like, yeah, we're friends, man. Like I don't, I don't owe you a conversation. Yeah. And it's not a weird thing. And I don't think. Enjoying one of his presence. Right. And I don't think this is a thing that women can comprehend. That's the other thing. Also, you keep seeing the same thing. I don't think this is a thing. Yeah, it's a whole thing. It's like, there's a certain thing. There's certain thing that always comes up. It's like, it's never boring with that certain person. It's like, you still have about the same thing. And it's been 40 years. You're like, bro. Yeah. Right. That is. You might have nothing to talk about that one thing. You'd be like, hey, you just nailed it. You have that, you have that friend that you can just call out of, out of the blue. And tell them the same thing. And then pick up the phone and it's two a.m. on a Saturday. And they pick up the phone and you go, bro, remember that time that you were drunk as sin outside of that Taco Bell? Yeah. And you go over to your Taco Bell and then you just both start laughing. And it's like, not a day is passed. And yeah, that's the conversation. And then you look, I'll talk to you tomorrow. Yeah. See you tomorrow, dude. Or maybe I'll call you the first one. Yeah. So that's, that's, that's true dude shit right there. It is. But you can't. It is. And that's why like, okay, you guys, I'm going to share. Everybody's like friendships and stories like relationships of any kind, have like intersections and, you know, off ramps. So at the end of our time, like when we were getting into music and shit, Sean is like really talented. If you guys ever go listen to his channel, like mixed man, Sean music. Plug it, plug it, plug it, plug it, you'll see it. You know what I mean? Like YouTube, Spotify, all the things. And you go listen to his body of work, the artist that he's worked with, are successful Punjabi and Indian artists out there. But it doesn't reach the American audience where Sean, you know, lives. That's where he grew up, most of his life now. But our intersection was creating. And he lived on Marclaire Drive. And that's where the name Marclaire Project came from. One of my notebooks. Got you. Sat in there. It sat in there. Some of the high school days or college days, probably. We spent a lot of time with it. Yeah. And man, if you guys need any guitar loops, just hit me up, dude. No, we love collaborating. We love it. Yeah, I definitely would be open to those type of things. So my passion always was to join the military. I actually wanted to be Coast Guard. Hey, did we tell you some of that? Joshua was living the military lifestyle before actually joining. Because bro, he would be on the hill with the back, back, full, or dumbbells running uphill. We wanted to like Jay, Jay Rossi kids. That was just like, I got it. I got it. No, I didn't even mind Josh. Didn't you do that? Behind Marclaire Drive, you'll be on the hill. Just like running uphill. Or called new called part. That's a cool hill, bro. I'm like, yeah, wow, you wilding, bro. I'm going to walk up with the back back. I wanted to be a rescue swimmer. So I know I had to be in shape. Oh, shit. Yeah. Yeah, that was my goal. And then like, they were like, oh, it's going to take you seven months before you get a test. I was like, what the fuck? I was working for three jobs. That's one of the things that like it just absolutely drives me nuts about people. Like they're always civilians talking to other civilians about joining the military. Like, oh, you want to be a green beret. You want to be a green beret. You want to be like a PJ. Dude, you can't do that. Yeah, as if not every single person that ever did any one of those jobs was not a civilian at one point. Exactly. 100% of the people that are in those jobs are all civilians at one point. Where do you think they come from? Right. Like the government doesn't. Yeah, the government doesn't like, like breed an issue, special operators. Like they draw them from the civilian marketplace, obviously. And that always cracks me up. And it's like, so people get talked out of going for their dream job. Because it's like, oh, don't go do that. You know how hard it is? It's like, dude, that should be a, the conversation should be, bro, you know, you should go do. Yeah, go be a green beret. You know how hard it is? That would be awesome. And we should go get you. You should go to an Air Force PJ. You know how hard that is? You'll get to dive. You'll get to parachute. Exactly. Dude, that would be awesome. That's how the, that's how the conversation should go. Go do it. My recruiters were not that way. It was a pain in the ass. Well, you know, I grew up in the East Bay, California. And it's, um, there's so many veterans there. Yeah, represent. There's so many veterans out there. A lot of people that serve, um, their country and, and do it very well. But the public doesn't necessarily like get behind it that much in most places. And so the challenge was, I think, I think that's on us. So it's like that, that is 100% on us. Because I'm going to, I'm going to, it's the quiet professional syndrome that we have, that we don't talk to people on the outside. Yeah. And I think the Navy, I think the Navy seals cracked it first. So they're really good at those things. For more nefarious reasons. Right. There's a lot of them. It's like, we make jokes. It's like, oh, you have a t-shirt, a coffee company and a podcast. Yeah. Probably a Navy steel. Those guys are super marketable. But, but I will give this to them. They did a good job. I think there were some that were genuine about what they were doing. And then there were a lot that are just trying to cash it. Like, listen guys, we're veterans. We're trying to make money too. Don't hold it against us. But my point is some have genuine reasons for going into what they do. And then some are just trying to make money. You got to parse it out just like, I can believe that. That's why like, like all my side hustles. I'm very comfortable making a part of my story. You know, my military side of me of who I am. But it's not. I am. I am. And that's fair because I don't hide it too. If people go, hey, Chris, what do you do? I go, I'm an active duty green berry. It's just your life, dude. That's what I do. It's just my job. I don't use it as my selling point, but I'm not going to hide it. It's almost like you're being weary of the meaning. Other people assigned to your military service. Yeah, even though your military service has meaning because you give it meaning. Correct, right. But it's not, it's not, hey, come listen to me because I'm a green berry. Right. Like, hey, I'm going to, I'm going to give you behind the scenes stuff. And I'm going to talk to you about like how to join. And I'm going to help you get selected. Right. Yeah. No, I know that's not the point. It's if you ask me what my job is, I'm going to go. Yeah. Just ask it. That is what it is. That's what I, that's what it is. That's what I do. I probably wear my uniform in public places. I proudly wear it in the public places. And when I do it, I try to wear it right. And I try to engage with people. Well, I tell them because I'm in Seattle area. Agreed. That's a good way to get your car key. So I went to the Oakland Coliseum. I went to the Oakland Coliseum in my, in my OCPs. I don't care. And I'll represent it. And guess what? Hey, they, they hooked me up. They were nice to me. Are you saying Portland, like between Portland and Seattle? I'm just south of Tacoma, Washington. Oh, nice. Just barely south of Tacoma. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I mean. I was there, like, not too long ago. My bad dog. So much of me. No, no, you're good, man. Do me. Hey, next, next, next time you swing through here, hit me up. I'll give you a place to stay. Hell, yeah. Hell, yeah. So when I left for the military, right, when I left for the military, you guys can relate to this. I went straight overseas. I did three years overseas, two years in Korea, a year in Okinawa. Then I came back to the United States. Oh, shoot. Yeah. While I was over there, you know, you call your friends back home. You know, you call people back home. And back then, it's the pay, you know, the phone cards, because cell phones, that shit weren't really that. Yeah, bro. One eight. I'm sure they said that with the pin code. No, the legal cash. 50 minutes. 50 minutes. Phone card. The Eagle Cash card. These kids don't know the Eagle Cash card, dude. Then I, oh, we're going to charge you for connection and disconnection. Like right, right. Right. Well, you're going to hand it. That'll be $10. And it comes out of your. It comes out of your paycheck. They took it out of your paycheck, put it on a prepaid cash card, and you can only spend it on post the Eagle Cash card. Such a racket, dude. You guys both have been in for well over a decade. When you either Brandon, I know you've now retired, but I know you served for almost 15 years. Right. Almost 14. Almost 14 years. Yeah. So like, I'm around in 20, and I'm still talking with Sean. Yeah. Well, a lot of my other friends, I used to call them. I used to call them. I used to call them. And then I started taking it like a note. Oh, shit. This is me always calling. Dude, this is me always doing this. Oh, I come home on leave. The homies. Oh, yeah, come see me. Oh, come see me there. You know the story. So Sean, veterans go through this a lot. When they go away from home, and they come back home on leave, their friends don't come visit them, even though they just flew around the world, or they flew across the United States back home. Totally. Preach. Preach. Yep. So, you know, I may have never even told Sean this, but as a friend, the fact that you would call me, or you checking with me, or you would come visit with me, you check on my wife, you check on my kids. That's why our friendship kept going. You know what I mean? You're on the list. Yeah. I was trying to visit you, and I would try to visit you like in San Antonio. Yeah. I keep that list on my phone, you know, how the iPhone has like the favorites. Exactly. And then if you're in the favorites, which by the way, Brandon, you made the favorites list. Hell yeah. I only when I when I get, you know, if I have if I'm over served, if I have too many on a Friday night, I only call from the favorites list. Yeah. If you're not in there, you're not getting a drunk call from me, which by the way, drunk calls from me are the best. Hell yeah. You never know what's going to happen. I get told I'm pretty so often. Brandon's like, yeah, yeah, they're good. Yeah. He's like, yeah, it's me. I was looking at pictures of you on Instagram. Yeah. Is this, is this, is this you and my butt again? Oh no, right. Right. Did you just grab my butt? Dude, I live in Sacramento. It's possible. What are you doing? Yeah. What are you doing? What are you doing in this time? Oh, you. There you go. There you go. Only call me after nine. The minutes are free. Oh God. It's darker. Are you in my mouth right now? What is it? Oh Lord. It got darker. You know what they say? If you go black, you go deaf. I'm just saying, boys. Oh my God. All right. All that. On that note, see. Yeah, I think I guess that takes us to now. We hide Jack the whole conversation from Jack. That's what I do. I'll drop grenades and just make sure that we go on outside of rooms. And then if you just boom and you just roll out. That's why I make a good guess. That's the only way that I'm just. So what I've learned is that only there's two, there's two ways to be a good wingman, right? At the bar. All right, let's talk about this, boys. Like because I've all been at bars over overseas, right? There's there's two ways to do it. You can either be the belligerent A-hole. Is it hot wings or garlic? No, just kidding. Wait, what? Both are good. Both are good. But you get you can either be the belligerent A-hole, which it's like, oh, nobody wants to talk to that guy. Yeah, but I'm driving you to my homey. You can be you can be that guy. And that works. Or you can be the like, have you met Brian, like Brandon? Like you can do that. You can do that too. And just like snag like every girl there is, like, but you got to you got to go into the night going, am I going to go home with a chicken knot? And for me, because I'm married and like, I married my high school sweetheart from. I am always the belligerent A-hole, overseas. And it works out really well. And I know my part. I mean, my wife also listens to these episodes. And she also may may listen to this. But no, like, so that's what I do. And I'm really, I'm really, really good at it. So it's like, when we were in Thailand, right, like we were playing pool with like a couple of bimbos. And I knew for a fact, one of my teammates was like, kind of interested. And he was a horned dog. And you know, and I'm like, all right, I got this. Lady boys. So I walk over and I start talking this chick. And you know, she's like, we're playing pool together. And she's like, oh, where are you from? And I was like, oh, you know, I'm from here and whatever. And she looks up, you know, I was like, oh my God. And I would look past her. And she was like, what? And I was like, oh, it's just you, your face. I was like, oh man, your teeth. Oh my God. I was like, please don't talk to me anymore. And then like, that's all it took. And she was like, no, to me. Yeah. And it's like, it's weird that chicks do that. Did chicks mistake being an asshole for confidence all the time? Right. And I was just like, oh, please, please stop talking to me. So I went over and I sat down and I started to have it. It's true. I started, I started, I got punched in a face for five years. He told me his, he told me his name was Diddy. I didn't believe him. Oh, Jesus. That guy is fucked, man. Yeah. Our Kelly Diddy. All of them, dude. But anyway, like, like in, into the story, I'm not going to like, bleager it on all night. But basically, I just like, been rated this chick. All night long, told her how ugly she was and how she never, like her father never, never should have let her get on a plane to Thailand. And just all this stuff. And like, by the time the night was over, she literally looked at me and she was like, I never want to see you again. And I was like, perfect. I don't know why you're still talking to me. Also, have you met John? He said him up. And my, my boy comes in and you get glow and she's like, right. Oh, it's me. And he was like, and then, and then eventually he goes. Same name as one of the apostles. And he goes, is this guy, is this guy bothering you? There you go, dude. Good cop. Back cop, dude. All right. We did the push pull. And then eventually I stood up to and I was like, you know what, bro? And he goes, he goes, listen, listen, lady, I can help you. Hold on. And just ushes her out. And then there it was and they never came back. That's right. And I was like, I was like, that's how that's how it works. Boys. I'm not a good lady. And I don't have patience for this shit. Like I couldn't assist. What do you know, what are you like going out with? What are you? I don't go out, bro. What are you talking about? This is going out for me. I keep it right. Well, this is it. This was it. I'm drinking a mocktail right now on a Friday night, dude. This is as crazy. I was. Look at this. It's fairly simple, right? It's cute. Cute covered juice with lime, man. Yeah. No, this is a trip to Thailand. So I don't, I don't. What's up, John? Either. No, no, I'm trying to say something about the lady boy earlier. A lady boy. It's a lady boy. What is the lady boy? I just want to make sure everybody else says I'm an expert in the lady boys. They just know they exist. No, but my question is- Don't anything being misconstrued. Why are they called lady boys, not ladies and gentlemen? Oh, now we're asking real questions. Ladies and gentlemen, I never heard that shit. That's you. Bro. All I'm seeing now is fucking hangover part two. I came in you. You came on the floor, right? Is that the Mike Tyson shows up in Thailand with him? No, my God. I don't remember. I just know that Stu had a little too much fun and hangover too. Gentlemen, I know you're talking about me. Right? Bro, I've seen some of those fucking pictures and videos of those people, man. It's kind of crazy. I could see how you get drunk and wind up fucking do some shit. You're going to regret for the rest of your life. Oh, shit. No, that's what I'm saying. Like, I'll be a nerd. I'll be at the museum and shit. Everybody's like, "Oh, you didn't come with us on this TV. Why you didn't do this?" Yeah, no. I'm out here. See, I thought the museum's too bad. It's hell of fun. Y'all going to end up with Gunna? I love the museum. I love the museum's. You know what's crazy, bro? You know what I don't like? I go to different places and I go to a museum, right? Because I'm like, I'm visiting. I haven't seen the fucking museums over here locally. Like, I never take the time out of Go see the local shit. Yeah. I don't either. Dude, I think that people think that when they live someplace it, there's nothing cool about it. I used to see that all the time when I was stationed in Germany, is that like, if you've ever been to like the KMC area, the Kaiser Sondent area, there's a shit ton of stuff to do around there. And people like always think like, "Oh, I can't, you know, there's nothing around here. I got to go travel." Which is fair because Germany's right in the middle of Europe. But it's like, did you realize like what is within like an hour radius of us? Bro, right now you don't need to fucking go 500 miles away to see something cool. And you can see something cool, 500 miles away and more power to you. But like, there's cool shit here. Just because this is home doesn't mean there's nothing that's not unique. You know, like you see Barbara's castle down to how K-Town, like if you want. I was super mad about my trip to Germany offline. I was kind of telling you like I'd been there. But it was like a five month deployment out of the blue during COVID. I was working at Travis Air Force Base and the emergency operation center, watching the world turn red on the map, you know. And we were bringing in like evacuees and all of the shit. Like two weeks of that, 18 days straight. And I get a call down there like, "Hey, well, this dude can't go. You're up." I'm like, fuck. All right, what am I leaving? In 10 days. So I'm like, all right, cool. The funny thing is, like the day I landed in Germany was the day we put our first song out. That's Mark Leopold. So I arrived there with my homie, Ed Gonzalez. I don't know if you knew Ed Gonzalez up there at Travis and he PCS to like Japan. But anyways, that was like my Jim Bro, my buddy. Anyways, we deployed together over there. And we get there and they're like, "Yeah, cool, we're shutting down." Everything was on lockdown, you know what I mean? Mark 2nd, I think it was the German you caught up. I remember it was trippy. They were like, "Is it $7,500 fine if you leave the county?" Yeah. If you left in Ryland, Pilatna, you'd go to fucking jail, dude. So nothing was open. You had doctors walking around my village. Yeah, looking as fucking nuts because you lived off base, huh? I did. I did live off base. Yeah. So we stayed in a little fake hotel on Ramstein. So like, you know, we were walking to the BX back. Were you with the one that was connected to the BX? Or the one that was like a mile and a half away? Yeah, a mile and a half away right along the wood line. So you're way back in touch. It was a good place for me to like, get myself back in shape after a back injury and stuff. So, you know, I got a lot out of it, a lot of this stuff that Sean and I are doing now, we're like content that we created back during that time. But Rajash would send me like, guitar loops from a library in Germany. They had like a broken guitar somewhere in the back. Yeah. You're like on the guitar. I'm like, record some of that. This is a six string guitar, but it's only got five. He has one of those. Matter of fact, right. But the, there's only five strings on this. There's a left hand guitar too. He fucking broke me. Yeah. The trip about it was though, like I get there, everything's locked down. Same stuff you're talking about. Like you kind of overlook what's right in front of you. So I'm like, where the fuck it? The chaplain and I were like, well, let's go for a hike. I was like, all right, cool. So we took a vehicle out to the town, and we went on a hike through the mountains, like right around the rampstein base. And we found like a trail in there that has like an ancient like sacrificial stone and shit from the USA where you're talking about. You know what I'm talking about? And walk around those whole rock formations. I've got beautiful pictures and just like, I was like, yeah. So, you know, although I didn't, I got to go to Triair. I was like the only town I got to go see. Triair's one day. One day and then I was like. But everything else was shut down. So it was like, what do I do? And I found little things like that to do. I just be out where I could be allowed to be out and adventure around. So I'm at the most of my trip out there, but I took that back with me since then and have been trying to find more adventures in my area. Like every day right now, I drive through these old cities in Los Angeles that have been here for like since the 1700s. You know what I mean? These places have been here forever. The sign on LA is like 1780. You know, this place was founded. I'm like, damn, you know. It's a trip where there before that. Yeah, it's a trip watching like driving through. I'd get a kick out of like all the businesses. All the things happening like in this area. So I brought that spirit of what I found in that adventure, not looking past my nose, you know what I mean? Like actually paying attention what's close to me and appreciating the beauty of that with me. And I'm enjoying that out here a lot, a lot. That's good. Yeah, there's a lot to do in LA probably that people don't even really realize like you think about this area. Like the first thing that comes to mind is maybe like sports or music. You know, movies for sure, right? Hollywood, like Disney Land. Universal, you know what I mean? Yeah, homeless in Kansas. Almost now. Yeah, exactly, you know. A bit no. I'm like right by the LA port. So I can see like the LA port. No, I've never been to LA. Like I want to go. It's crazy. I want to see like I've been all over these United States. I've been down to Fort River. So I've been down like next to LA. But like the last time I was down there, we went to Las Vegas instead. You know, that was a, that was a crazy story. That was a crazy week. Vegas is fun. Vegas is fun. And you already know. Raiders are there. Whatever happened there, bro. And the Raiders are there. Oh, guess what? Sean's had the A's about to be there too. I call it Las Vegas now. Cause all the, all the Bay Area teams are going out there. Dang. Yeah, let's go. Hey, Vegas. Why do you sound west guy? Fifty dollars. Two Vegas. Yeah, they do. Is it because LA is running out of money? That they're, they guess is buying up all their teams? Like what's, what's happened is. All right, Chris. Oakland does not know what they're doing. They have no fucking clue. Like they run that city is a beautiful people that live in that town. It's wild as hell. And it's out of control because the people that run it are like the quintessential. They're trying to change the name of the Oakland airport right now. Okay. Really call it San Francisco part two or some shit like that. Well, just trying to get people to not call it Oakland, right? Cause everybody is as Oakland as ratchet as fuck, right? See, like, as they're full. Something to Oakland's like hidden underneath like, hey, please try to label your. SF Oakland. That's something we do. It is to SF Oakland. You guys are LA boys, right? Like that, that's like born and raised. LA Oakland like area where you guys are from. Well, LA and Oakland. It's almost 400 mile difference. Yeah. Very different. Okay. Well, we're, we're in LA every week. E a e, right? Yeah. Got you. So, but, but I do have a question from being in the heartland of California. Like, no, I have a serious question. And this is like, obviously. Hey, no serious question. Serious. Like sample size of two. Chris, sample size of one, unless you want to pause, because I can't hold it anymore, bro. This Mason jar was full and now the tank is full. I got to take the break. Go for it, man. That's a good. Just get up, man. All right. Sean, you're the president of the Bay Area for this one, sir. Here we go. Do you think you're me? All right. All right. All president. All president. Next man, Sean. What is your, what is your? Hey, what is, what is your take on Trump? Like. Al, yeah. They're the president over Trump, the entrepreneur. Just what the, I guess I'll refine my question. What is the general consensus on his reputation out there. He's kind of a rock star, you know what I mean? At least he looks like one ballad. I don't know. His life is trippy because I know him from casinos. Like when I first came to America, I went to the Trump. The buildings in Atlantic City, the casinos. I didn't even know Trump was a person. I thought it was a building. So that's how I knew. Because he made it look like Taj Mahal and stuff or whatever, right? And yeah, like little people dressed up in Indian clothing. And I was like, wow, this is crazy. So that's how I got it. That's the fastest test of all time, dude. Yeah, there's the right style. I just tossed that piss bottle right out of my turf. This is a really small travel time. You know what I mean? For the year ended. I actually just peed the way the hell I can do. In a mountain style. Really quick. I think I got a urinal in here. Oh, I was going to be mad about the mess. You peed right in the same jar he was jakin' out of. Hey, there's no face. You can always drink your first piss. Let's say there's a thing that I've learned from big in the army. Boys, you have your piss jar. You have your piss bottle, your spit bottle, and your water bottle. And don't get the three mixed up. Absolutely. Don't even get one or two of the two mixed up. It was dangerous on. Like that, huh? Yeah, it's like that, man. Yeah, I was just saying, um, like I don't know too much about politics or whatever. So I don't know if anybody, but like Trump's life is kind of wild. Like a lot of shit he's done is it's pretty guaranteed. Like he, like before he became the bad dude or whatever, people. I mean, I have a book, bro. Like over here, there's some, there's a book over here sitting around. It's Trump's book. You know what I mean? Somebody gave it to me as a gift. They're like, you should study it. So like, like before he was president, it was like, Oh, you could learn something from this dude. Like he's a business man. He do this and that. So like growing up, I always, I don't read like that many books, but like, the fact that somebody gave it to me, you know what I mean? They're like, they're like, Hey, I look up to this guy. You can, you can learn something about business and it's inspirational. I mean, he's on TV. He's firing people left and right. You know what I mean? Oh, so I'm like, that's what's up. I was like, I don't want to get fired. You know what I mean? Right. That was my thing. I was like, broke because I got all the men. If I, if I were word for Trump, I hope he's not like, Hey, you're fired. I'd be like, why bro? Like, you can just fire me a million. You know what I mean? Give us a problem. You think that you could just come in here. Listen, there are some people that would say, I wouldn't say this, but there are some people that would say, Nick's Man Sean is the best and I tend to agree. Nick's Man Sean is the best that we've had on this podcast. I bro, I'm going to say I'm going to put it on a beat. I saw yours. So I just got Trump to do an intro to my beat. Let's go. That's right. Our modern day Arnold Schwarzenegger, everybody in the world has a Trump impression. Yeah. Everybody does. You're like, you have to. You have to at this time. How long is he kicking with Trump? Like go golfing and shit as well. He's like, yeah, you fired. I'm like, dude, I'm not trying to get fired. So I had a, I had a buddy in the Special Forces. He was, you know, Charlie one one out in first, first, first Italian, first Special Forces group. And these guys got pulled. I don't know how much I can say about this, but they were in Trump's vicinity at the time. And a thing had just happened in Afghanistan that this is back during Trump's first presidency. And he comes rolling up on a golf cart. And these Special Forces guys are in the vicinity of Trump. And he comes rolling up on a golf cart. Like my god, this is my, this is what my friend said that he said. Comes rolling up and he goes, so what do you boys think about? What just happened in Afghanistan? And they were like, uh, we don't know, Mr. President. And he goes, you're gonna love it. And he just drove away. You just drove away. And so they all started checking, they all started checking their phones. And that was when we dropped the first Moab that has ever been dropped in the history of warfare. And it got dropped in Afghanistan. And they were just like, oh my god. He's the greatest president of all time. And he just, he just came rolling up. That was the news break. He just knew where these army guys were. And I guarantee you that he was like, go show me like, I know I've got, you know, army dudes around here. Let me go talk to him for a second. And they were like, oh, they're over there, Mr. President. I guarantee you that's what happened. And he comes rolling up and that's what he does. So what do you boys think? What do you boys think about what just happened in Afghanistan? And they were like, we don't know, because he's in front of the news. Like, they don't know. That's totally tight, man. You're a fan. Literally. I think he might have told him that. That's why it was kind of quiet back then. I remember when he fucking, he killed Sulemani, the Iranian general. Yeah. I was fucking American flag up on, on fucking Twitter, just repping the set. Like, I was in, when that happened, I was there. I was there when that happened, and they were, dude. That was like, bro, a presidential way of saying, fuck around and find out. He doesn't have a buck, bro. He kind of like speaks his mind, you know. But listen, man, that's all about what deterrence is about, dude. You don't do shit and you get to turn from doing it. Cause you're afraid of the fucking big stick. That's fine. When you do fucking do dumb shit. They are afraid of him. And like, if you, if you follow that, if you follow that foreign policy, ideology back, like where does it go to? That's, that is Teddy Roosevelt. Yeah. There's all the way back then, like, carry a big stick, man. That's us people, you know what I mean? Like, you could say it's the lesson system. He thinks softly, right. Yeah. No, not like Teddy did. That's what I'm saying. I mean, he's finishing the years. Yeah. But yeah, he, he just does the carry a big stick thing and he just swings it like crazy. But I love him because if, if you look at, you know, current foreign policy, and I can't get too deep into this, but if you look at foreign policy, currently, is it working? That's the only thing that I would ask people. Like, is it working? Just look at it. And you tell me, do you think, is it working? And I'll just leave that for anybody to like look at how it's going, you know? Yeah. I mean, everything that everybody said that was going to happen, if Trump got elected, has happened when Biden got elected. Looking at all these new wars, there's going to be regular Holocaust hasn't happened, but they made it seem like that was going to happen. Nothing happened. Yep. It was all fear-mongering. And now, the inflation is fucking at damn near 40 percent. And you have new math, right? But we don't count the volatile markets of the housing market. Oh. And when we, when we calculate inflation, we don't do that. It's so weird that, like, on the same income I got right now, if I was stationed at Charleston Air Force Base, I could buy a house and some land. The exact same situation. Out here, I can't even get a two-bedroom apartment. Dude, that's what I say, man. I make too much damage to stay broke. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. And the government pays for my housing, and the government pays for my groceries, and I still can't barely afford to live out here. I'm super apolitical. Yeah, gas is damn near. Like, I don't have a party. Five dollars to get one out here. I don't have a party favorite. I'm super apolitical. That's kind of my identity always has been. Yeah. I voted one time in my life, and that was for John McCain, because I actually thought he was honestly living the things that he said he was doing. Just stood there, like him. Some people said he was a rhino or whatever. But I felt like he was honest and open about his ways every other time. I just don't care to get too caught up in it, because I got a job to do, and I take it pretty serious. And I love the people that I work with, and I execute what we do. And I think that that's important for us as a-- And we serve at the behest of the president, right? So it's hard for us to say political things. And there's some rules. And there's some rules we've got to follow, of course. But we're still people, and we still have constitutional rights as well. But I think-- In brains, with opinions. Yeah, the things that got me the most fired up right now is like the state of taxation. Mostly brains. Bro, taxation. It's the worst shit ever, dude. Like, I'm sorry, but America was founded on the fact that like, stay out of my shit. And it's the most like in my pockets ever. And it's just getting worse. And that-- And I just want to-- I just like that you said that. About America's founded on that, leave me alone. This Americans seem to have this notion that like, the American government and the states, and the way we view the United States now, was the end goal at the end of the revolution. That wasn't it, man. A lot of these colonies were very much against becoming states and unifying and becoming a country. Right, right. You know, and there was a lot that happened that was very anti-what a lot of colonists wanted at the end of the Revolutionary War. We've always been about decentralizing from a central government and taking care of ourselves. That's why there are states' rights. And it's very important that we maintain those states' rights. It's just more of those things, you know? More and more and more and more. We lose those things to a federal government. And it's, I don't know, just getting to the point where we got to make some changes. No, it's the consolidation of power. And you're absolutely right. Exactly. That's why I don't understand why people got so mad about Roe v. Wade being overturned. Because-- Just went back to the states. Dude, if you had-- It went back to the states. The isn't that the actual-- Switch, the ways-- I think that's the way the democracy works. Right, so it's like-- Harder than education. So if you-- Oh, don't get me started. Don't even get me started. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. Ripping. The just-- Ripping. The drapishes. But the idea that the idea that abortion goes back to the states, hey, man, if you like that, and that's your thing, I believe all abortion is murder. That's where I come down in the issue. I have four sons. I love having my kids. I'll have more if my wife would allow us to have more. I love children. I come from a big family myself. I think that children are great. I think it's our manifest destiny of the 22nd century is to have children and to bring these people out of existence. However, that's where I come down. That's my stance on it before anybody gets mad, right? You're allowed to have that stance. The idea that the government said, hey, we're going to take this federal issue that we had and push it back to the states. Okay, you like abortion. You like killing babies. That's the way I feel about it. Go to California. Go to New York. Go to Illinois. Go to one of these states where you can kill your babies. I don't care. Just leave me alone in my state where we say because Wisconsin had a old school abortion law on the records that as soon as Roe v. A got a return, it got put into like went back into existence effect. And now you can't kill babies in Wisconsin anymore. Immediately after that, Wisconsin Democratic Party took it up and then started legislative issue in Wisconsin. But now it's a thing that I can now fight against in my state. We're now I have I have a say again where before I didn't because you use the Supreme Court to legislate a law on me from the bench that no law person ever had a chance to fight against, right? So we use that. The definition of democracy, law persons. Yeah, lawyers. Thanks. I love it. I love it. I love law persons too. I went to Harvard law person school. Bro, but you're hella right, Chris. Like for real, like. You're getting me off the cuff to you. This is just me off the cuff. Of course, but I mean, that's authentic, right? I mean, that's what we're you want to have your real opinion. I didn't realize I said law person until you guys said that. We're having fun. We're here to help you out. I mean, that's what we call it the jag the jack horse. It's filled with law people. They didn't have a fancy book learning over there. Yeah, I'm a medical person. If you guys didn't know, right? I do I do medical stuff. Love leaving the body. That's bad. That's me. I know that. Got to stop it. I'm a read books pretty soon. They're going to be air people in the Air Force. We're just going to be air people, right? Yeah, airmen. You had to do for real. We're just we're not even going to be able to say air. We're just going to be air. Air people, sea people, sea people. My pronouns are. Why guys? You can't say guys, Sean. That's the way to get borderline. By person. Yeah, that's what we better knock it off. See, you guys made fun of me, but at least I could be general neutral. When I said law people, law person. Dude, it was legit. I guess. No, I just enjoyed it. It's all y'all. But let's talk about the the gender disparity in lawyers, right? OK, and law people. Excuse me. OK. Let's do that, you know? Yeah. What is it? I don't know. I'm ignorant to that. I have no fucking idea. Yeah. I have no idea. Well, I don't. Mr. No, no pro now professional over here. Yeah, I'm just like, oh shit. That is a good point to bring up. Have you guys seen this, uh, this initiative to have all, uh, professions like filled with 30% women by 2030? Have you guys seen this? I have never heard of that. I've seen a lot of stuff like that. It's, it's cool when you try to force square pegs into round holes. Huh. Bro, tell me. Yo, I know. The Boeing situations. Ayo. Hey, the fake ass, but it's OK, guys. What do you mean? He's an entirely black female crew. No, bro. Like 40, we should have all females do everything because I'm trying to chill. You know what? Yeah. It's still a little bit power move. Yeah, right. Hey, you do such a good job. Do some more. Yeah, listen, man, I'm going to teach you girls a word that you're not familiar with. It's called accountability. What do you want next, bro? Yeah, that doesn't. Sandwich. Right. All deli's. That's like the most generic, like, uh, woman joke. There is, isn't it? Like barefoot in the kitchen. Kitchen, kitchen, sandwich. Yeah. Hey, man. You know, why do you. Why do you. Why do we not need a driver's license? Yeah, no, this is driving cars. Kitchen is just on the other side of the living room. No, because there ain't no road between the dishwasher and the oven, dude. That's true. Yeah. I love it. I love it. Yeah. I was about to, I was about to, I got a real bad joke. It was like the one of that, uh, what he, what he told woman with two black eyes, nothing he already told her twice. Nothing. He told her twice. That's not a joke for the entrance to him. But I'm just saying. Right. Yeah, exactly. Jesus is going to pull out the book on me like, remember? I get, or I guess the, yeah, what's those memes where Jesus comes over your shoulder and you're like, oh, what? But no, I would say what do you tell when we're with two black eyes, right? I'm going to amend this joke. Nothing because diddy are, diddy are you told her? Oh, Jesus. Oh, yeah. He's going to be answering again. Did he, did he do it? Did he, did he do it? He did it. He did it. Come on, guys. He's on the video, beating up his girlfriend in that hotel. He's literally all video beating her ass, dude. Oh, so, but yeah, and then I'm like, there's, um, there was an article today. My wife showed me about diddy, like paying to get that surveillance footage. Like he's out there. He's so fucked, bro. Oh, he's, but what, but why now, boys? That's what I want to know. Oh, because they're done playing with it, man. But it's just like 10 years old. Why now? Because they can't. Because there's too much. That's, that's a good question. Why now? Okay. He's a wild one, dude. He's a scapegoat for something, dude. You know, they turn on me for reasons, man. It is tough for real. We got to distract from something. All right, bro. Sure. Sure, man, dude. Should he say, if he did, he's all up in the videos, and he shouldn't be all up in the video like that. Hmm. You got a role as, as like the, uh, as like the, the, what's it called? The CEO, you mean? You want to manage your likes to relax, bro? We're making the food. You go do paperwork. Okay. I believe, honestly, believe all this shit that's come out about him, fucking, fucking trainees and all kinds of shit, man. Pussy just doesn't do it for me anymore. Like that's insane, dude. Like what? You know? You said it's bullshit, bro. He's like, I like, yeah. Overrated. I like to do that. Wow. Yeah, just this girl. And a skirt. Open it up a notch. Bam. Right. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, bro, just, I'm going to make another video with Mace. And if she's racing, do it with him. It's Afghanistan. It's Afghanistan. Oh, but you've made some now. That's what I'm saying, man. It's so ironic, dude, when you look at like what Mace is now, versus like, did he? Right. Like, hmm. Yeah, he has a lot of, a lot of bad things to say about his town. Mace went that way. I'm sure, bro. I think he's like, yo, fuck, baby. You know, I need to go. Dude, yeah, they came out with the fucking biggest banger ever. They fucking was, no, dude. Mace went and found Jesus, though. That's what I'm saying. He became a man. That's what I'm talking about. A messier. Passier's a ministry. Yeah, man. I mean, I've been at this church or something. I can't remember what church was. Mace ordained out of. Yeah. Does he hammer do that, too? I don't know if having that. I don't know, but hammer's the man. I don't know that much. Can't touch this. Shout out to him. God, let's shout out to him, dude. I think he went that way, too. All I know is hammer is the man. And he always has been. Represent. Mm-mm-mm. Hey. My dogs are staring at me. Yeah. I never really knew what I'm seeing. Everybody's goin' all of a sudden, like... No, like, my dogs are staring at me from the wall. If I start googling in my minutes. 'Cause it's one of the boots. Look, look, there she is. She's just in the back to me. I don't really see what... Is that a colleague? What he is, other than the fact that he's a Protestant minister. Oh, Protestant. Yeah. I mean, that's pretty specific. Could be not the nomination. I don't know, whatever. Better than D. I don't think he... Yeah, exactly. I think I stayed with that too long. 'Cause he went back into this. He says, "I just didn't..." Bro, no doubt. I just googled it. Says he's a minister still in Atlanta. Oh, wow, that's interesting. I mean... The nasty, lukey-filled tissue at the bottom of my garbage can is better than Diddy right now. Yeah, no doubt. Did he still... Did he still out of the country? I don't know. Did she ever heard? That's what they do. That's innocent person behavior. You know what I mean? Absolutely. Right. You jump on a jet and fly to a non-extradition country. Yeah. Let me sneak out of here real quick. I don't like underage girls or trainees. Let me get out of plane. Hello, if you're following me for that stuff? Here's the thing that I want to ask. And you guys know how this stuff works, right? Send it. 'Cause you guys are all cops. Or at least two of your cops. Actually, that's a really interesting thing. The last time I had a conversation with this many cops. So we were cops. We were cops. Ironicized little sneak about mixed man Sean. His main thing is IT for the 911 systems. So without him, we ain't calling 911. I'm always working. So he's in the system. Yeah. The last time I had a conversation with this many cops that did not go with this well. That's right. Thanks, guys. Miranda writes. I've met some cool cops. Miranda writes. But anyway, the day that his house got raided, I don't know if you guys remember looking back on this. 'Cause I remember watching many of the headlines come in. So his house got raided. And then he ran from his house, got in his car, went to his jet, his private jet, on his private airstrip, and left the country and went to a non-extradition country. Yup. Like, you guys are going to take that. If you guys are going to do a raid on a guy, right? And this is what doesn't make sense to me. If you were going to do like a no-knock raid on a guy. Yeah, cave them first. Well, I'm pretty sure he wasn't at his house so it was raided, though. No, he was like 12 hours prior. That's my-- That's my point. And I want to have it. He wasn't when it happened. He left 12 hours prior and then immediately went to his jet and got in his jet and flew away. Like, did he know? That's what I'm saying. Like, nothing about this makes sense. Because if you're going to do-- If you're that kind of, if you're that level connected, you got to have people in the fucking law enforcement. You two billion there. Right? You remember that song? "Bad Boy." "Bad Boy." As you go. I'm down. I mean, that was the same with his-- So I'm saying-- Because she's like, I'm going to hurt. Like, I'm right. Right. Here's what I did. Obviously, he obviously had, like, a tee up. And somebody was like, "Hey, don't be home tomorrow." I'm sure that's what it's going on. He's got his jet filled up, like, got it ready to go, got his pilots in place. Because it's like, you got a billionaire. Like, you got to give your pilots, like, probably like-- Well, they went there and they were like, no, did he? Six hour head. I'm like, where do you go? Right? Did he-- Did he-- Did he leave? Did he-- Did he-- No, did he-- No, did he-- Did he-- Did he fly away? Like, whoa, did he? Right? No, did he need? I don't know, man. Did he left? Did he-- Did he-- Did he-- Did he? Did he? Did he? Did he? Did-- Did he-- Did he go on-- That's probably a product of bureaucracy, though. Like, she just-- It's not a-- Like, so long to get that going. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's a good-- That's a good point. It could be that, too. But I just think-- I just think that there's got to be something deeper going on here that, like-- Like, you can-- you can draw conclusions. We obviously are. Like, you obviously knew they were coming for him. Dude obviously had a chance to get out of town. Dude is obviously being kept away from the United States. Like, don't come back. Listen to me, you-- Now they're dropping, like, actual video footage of him. Doing the stuff that he did, that they know that Diddy did. Bro, if you can't use it, you can't produce it. Bro, he-- The fact that he named himself love. Like, hey, hey, I'm old. I'm old. I'm old. Dude. Like, I'm old. I'm old. If you can get a judge to sign off on a no-knock warrant, you should be able to get a judge to put this motherfucker on, like, a no-fly list. And, like, tell all the airports in the local area, like-- That's my point. You've got to have a list of his assets. Hey, this jet-- That's my point. This tail number cannot take off at any airport, et cetera. That's my point. So is it oversight or is it conspiracy? That's the real question. That's-- That's my point. Conspiracy or even just enough influence to compromise that process. Mm-hmm. So he's also a billionaire, so how much can-- How much can he throw money around to-- You can have your own-- So there's a lot going on. You have that much money, bro. You can have your own fucking airport. That too. So, like, where are you going to stop? Hey, what's federal, though? Yeah, it is. But you can influence-- So Hollywood has its own side of LAX. A tone, old, old, little purse. Yes. They don't fly into the blue collar, molar, molar airport, right? It's its own detachment. Not like us plebs. That's right. That's ridiculous. That's riff-raff. That's usually where I-- riff-raff for sure, dude. That's where I live. Well, I have to get-- Looking down, every single time I have to fly with my kit, because it only makes me do it. And they still don't let me take my kit. Even though they know my kit's more than 50 pounds, every single time I put it on the scale, I'm like, hey, guess what? That's going to be, like, 51 pounds, because it's literally just my kit, my helmet. Yep. Don't get me started, dude. Yeah, I guess over what I want to say on, we've got to charge you $300. Yeah. Meanwhile, they'll put the fucking space shuttle on top of an airplane, and it's good to go. Right. Yeah. Fact. Yeah. Too easy. Bro, some lady at the-- Yeah. At the plane, bro, some lady at the airplane trying to tell me I'm on my way to Portland. And I noticed the plane's empty, bro. So I'm in a little economic seat. I'm not, like, by the window seat. I look back. There's, like, 10 window seats. And we're in the air, and I'm like, yo, fuck this. I'm not going to sit away. I'm going to go sit by the window. I want it. Right. And the fucking lady came up to me. She's like, oh, you know, you got to go back there, because when we put these seats, we kind of balanced the airplane. So there's, like, enough people in the back and forth. Oh, fuck. I got it here, dude. Fuck. She was like, so that's going to be up, bro. Unless you've got a hundred bucks. Oh. Damn. Too far strong, and you want to-- In my hair? I'm looking at you, and I was like, what the fuck? What do you do? Turn the fucking airplane around? Oh, my god. And, bro. Put you on a no-fist. I'm already at the window seat. And I got the thing of-- I'm like, bro, it's a 40-minute flight. The lady is like, no, no, no, no. That's an upgrade. You've got to fucking go. You know what I'm going to do? If I was-- if I was you, bro? I'd say a quote. I'd use my nationalities and my advantage would be, like, tell English. Oh, no, please. Oh, no, please. I bet she's going to be like, hey, then get away in the back. Right? And when you land, there's a random gravity, sir. Hey, if you don't speak, if you don't speak, not that we don't come to my country. Super random. Yeah, yeah. So random, I know about it already. This isn't profile, sir. It's random. Because you're ready to get-- I'm getting ready to get to know you, like, Brandon procrasted. Like, the rule is, if I'm flying delta, if I don't get upgraded or whatever, if there's some window seat, I go sit there. Nobody-- nobody hears. And I get used to that. And I'm flying to Alaska, nearby, and the-- She tried to tell me that, like, if I say back there, the shit's going to be off balance. Yeah. Bullshit, dude. That's so fucking dumb. And I was like, I was like, bro. What the fuck are you doing walking up and down the aisle off from everybody's shitty peanuts, dude? Get the fuck out of my face with this dumb shit. For one of us is hella nice. All right, now, what the fuck is this dumb? Dude. [INTERPOSING VOICES] Yeah, like, hey, if you just took a piss, you come over here and drink some water so we can kind of stay straight, like-- Exactly. Hey, yo. You know, I don't really want the upgrade. I'm going to land in 40 minutes. It's like a straight flight. But the fact that she told me all this shit, like, trying to make a scientific of, like, whatever, dude. I don't know you like that. And I know you feel fucking math, for sure. Or physics. If you can draw the physics equation out on this piece of paper for me, I'll get it to you. Can you show me that on a graph, yeah? Yeah. I'm going to show you. Can you calculate the lift for me? Right. You know what really cracks me up? Like, going back to the whole quiet professionals thing. Like, we say, like, quiet professionals. And then, if you're in an airport and they go, we would like to bring up front our military members, along with the diamond platinum, like, all, like, Uber flights, all exactly. You see all the groups that are standing under the-- With tactical bags. Yeah, those, like, that pack said, like, they're fine. They got their fucking nail tape on the back and shit. Go real fuck any four rank. Yeah. Yeah, like, they're walking up, like, running up front, like, sitting right back. Thanks, ho-- oh. See you. Ooh. Ooh. Yep. And you see your military-- military, I already had it out. Yeah. I just came in with it out. It's right here. It's right here. Yeah, look at my face. Backpack. You see my backpack? I think it says mystery. It says mystery ranch. Do you know where my husband is? Do you know where my husband is? Yeah. My husband's lieutenant, Smith. OK. Oh, that's cool. This is unacceptable. I had a goldfish when I was five. I thought we were talking about things that don't fucking matter. I'd like to speak to your captain. This is unacceptable. Right. Well, you know, you just had one goldfish, bro. You can't just have one. Yeah. And we want to act first the whole pack, one I have a goldfish. Listen, I'm in the air. Oh, yeah, dude. My favorite goldfish are the pizza flavor. Listen, I'm in the air force. I know how planes work. That's what I'd say. You're trying to tell me I fly the M4 every day, OK? Yeah, you're trying to tell me. If Josh is going to sit in the back, he's just going to get a little brighter. Did you know? You know what my fucking ass weighs 215 pounds before he got on the plane? I don't think so. I should have said something. I should have been like, yo, that's bullshit, but I like it. If I turn my head on backwards, will it help the aerodynamics? Yeah. Are we going to go? Yeah. I'll just ask them real questions. Should I sit like this? Did a piloting breakfast this morning? Just wait till the AI stomach. I want to know. Just wait till the AI is flying all of our commercial planes. Dude. My call signs ace, I'll hit the brakes. The whole flight is fine. I bet that happens, dude. The AI planes. The planes already fly themselves for the most part. They really do. I guess technically that's what's happening, right? It's a full of things. And then the other thing that drives me absolutely bat shit crazy is when we land. And every time a plane lands, people like she laughs. Yeah. And it's like, it's supposed to do that, you retard. Did I ask you guys a question? Yes, please ask me a question. I want to ask you guys a question about how you feel, about flying. I hate it, bro. I love flying, actually. I love flying. No, I'm with you, Josh. I hate flying. I hate you. I've always loved airports. I love planes. I love the experience of flying all of it. So I love airports, because I'm with-- You can train again any time. It doesn't matter. Exactly. I'm with Aaron Love on this one. Aaron loves America. Gonna shut him out again. I'm with him. The airport is like the last lawless space in the state. It is like, I'm at a clock in the morning. I'm like, give me bloody mirrors, dude. Because I can ring in a plane. It's true, you can go buy a scarf, a magnet, and a beer all in the same place. Shot glasses in the shop and at the bar. Yeah, it's like a Syrian bazaar. You can wear it. At Ohio, I need a shot glass. Whole chest set, it's all shot. That's it, dude. I hate it when it comes to flying, bro. Oh, when you're flying in a commercial plane, it takes off like this. Yeah, I'm OK with that. But in a helicopter, when you just fucking jizz here, like in a chair and then go up, you don't got a window. Bro, I'm not about that light. That's not me. Oh, choppers are a bit different. They're very different. I love choppers, dude. It's hilarious. Dude, I was a little bit onto the thing like so hard. My muscles are a bit fucking so tense, dude. I'm also a jump master, so I've jumped out of more aircraft than I've ever landed in. You probably jumped out of more planes than I've been in. I would way rather jump out of choppers than I would jump out of aircraft. What's the distinguishing difference? Like, why? So mostly, it's just like the way that we train, right? So choppers, it makes the whole process just way faster. So if you go out to the drop zone, the chopper comes out to the drop zone, meets you, lands. Like all the jump masters, like we JMPI, the jumpers, we put them on the chopper, chopper takes up, circles around the drop zone, drops the jumpers, comes back, lands. And we can get the whole way more practice. Yeah, we can get the whole process done in like four hours. But we can put out like 20 sticks in like four hours, on a good weather day and just boom, just like circle that bad boy. Planes, like they have to land at the strip. The strip is always like way away from the drop zone. So you got to have like a deco and the deco is the departure airfield commanding officer. And then you have like the DCSO, which is the drop zone of commanding officer. And so like he commands like, it's way more stuff. And then the plane like picks up the jumpers at the airfield and flies them out and drops them. And then has to go back to the airfield and pick them up. And so you can get like maybe less than half of the people out that you need to do, right? And so the training value is less. And the like the work that you have to do is like way more. And then when you jump out of a plane, it's like you just get beat up dude. It's like stepping into a ring with like Mike Tyson. You step out of the air. Like we do like. Brian, Mike Tyson. Yeah, we do. Yeah, we do like C27. Jake Paul, my goodness. Because the C27 is like a smaller like midget version of, I love midges, by the way. Yeah, like a midget version. Yeah, God bless. Wait, real midges. Real midges, dude. I just AI generated midges. I am obsessed with midges. I really AI midges. Oh, they did that. How many you got? You can do like deep fake with what's his name, that English dude to make him a little bit. Bro, yeah. My bad rules went real quick. Hey, sister, do you need to trouble with any good midges? That's what she said. Hey, you remember one of our teachers used to do a lot of gliding and stuff? We're at Silicon Valley. Like hey, or like gliders? Like the-- Oh, Elliot. I don't remember his name, but like he would go on top of the mountain and jump over the little kite and just fucking fly. And this is a big old dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, bro, like, he wasn't scared, man. Yeah, I don't remember that already. Base jumping? I don't remember his name. But he was using the hang, like the hang glider one. It's like a kite, whatever. Not like the scores. And then you jump, and then he just flies. Squirrel seed is fucking badass, but scary. Bro, those people are insane, dude. For like a whole big ass freaking insane. That's crazy that you do that, man. Like you just aren't there fearless. It looks-- it looks fun as fuck. If I-- if somebody could guarantee me I wasn't going to die doing it, and you could just send me home in a matchbox, I would do it. But like, that's just like-- Oh, man, dude, I don't know, man. That's-- Yeah, if I had the control over it, like I'm driving the car, it'd be fun. It doesn't look fun as fuck, though, dude. Those people. I'm scared, dude. If it is the last thing you do before I fucking fly into that-- That would be-- that would fucking mountain. Maybe if I knew that like the-- Hell of a last thing, right? Earth-killing asteroid was on its way, and it was inevitable. It's time. OK. Fuck it. You're going to be the only one that may fall. Fuck it. Because they're going to take up. You know, you're just going to be stuck in this space. Right? I'm going to try to hit the Earth faster than the asteroid is. That is because my new goal. You know what I mean? You're going to become a planet. And they're going to be like, Brandon Orby's New York now. Right? I was like looking at the guy that took me out there. And I'm like, there's no getting out of this. This is the last time you're going to see me. See you later. Not to get too existential on you. Death is coming for all of us, isn't it? Facts. It is. Right. I'm just trying to expedite the process, you know? Right, well, you're actually coming from. But what I'm saying is, like, it doesn't matter if it's an asteroid or if it's like an aneurysm. Like, death is coming for you. Yeah, but like, if I knew, do you know an aneurysm is going to be there in a week? No. If there's an asteroid clearly in the sky, like coming, it's like, OK, we're all fucked. We're all fucked. The asteroid, like, nothing matters anymore. It's complete and total chaos in mayhem. I'd squirrel suit. I don't mind you googling to be at least legit. Like, I don't want it to be some just did some dumb shit. And that was it. You know what I mean? No one's even got to know. You know, all the technology, all the writing is going to be completely and totally gone. I'm just going to fucking squirrel suit into the ground. It will be cool. It'll be cool. Right. It's this. This is re-tired. Because she's trying to live the old days and crowd-surf or surf through I5 on a shopping cart. No. Yeah. Fuck, dude. Those days are gone, bro. I can really get out of bed. Let you save that, though. Like, yeah, it's coming. And it's unpredictable. What do you know about that? You know what I mean? Like, what do you-- Nothing. What are you talking about? Is there some things like-- I think, what am I-- You're like, hey, I'm definitely trying to do this before I die. Oh, yeah. Talk to this? Oh, yeah. Oh, I got bucket list. This is like midget. Yeah. 100%. Well, what about midget? I'll say it to the left, midget. Now, so there-- There was a midget baseball team. There's this midget baseball team in Fayetteville, North Carolina. He's running just like he just picks them up and put them on the base. Right? No, no, no. Oh, my God. There's this midget bar. I'm right. And I used to love-- I used to love-- He's my take on the league. You know what I mean? For real. No. Play a little baseball. Play a little baseball. Yeah, a little baseball. All right, listen, guys. You guys-- Go for a little-- You guys got-- You guys got-- There's no strike zone. You guys got to actually hear this. Yeah. There was a field. So, you could go there and they would have midget-- They would have midget wrestling on Thursday nights so you could go there and you could bet on them and the midges would get in the mud pit and they would wrestle. And that was awesome. And then on Fridays, you could go there and they would have these like the midges-- Can I put on you? They would-- They would-- Like-- I mean, you know, like, you guys-- you guys are laughing but hold on. Hold on. Listen. I mean, it's-- England's right hand sizes are cheaper. So the midges would put on, like, Velcro suits and they would have, like, the whole wall of the bar had, like, targets and stuff. It's-- And you could pick up the midges and you could throw them and, like, you would literally-- You would literally just-- Yes. You could literally play with the midges-- Time for a lot of storage. Yes. And it was one of my favorite places of all time because I'm just not-- This was so much fun. It dwarfed my expectations. You guys are laughing, but I'm telling you right now. He said there's so many fun things to do with this kind of thing. I don't make fun of midges. They're down to earth. Bro, where are you talking about? You-- These-- Dude, the puns are flowing. I love this. You've never-- You've never lived until you've tossed the midge. I'm telling you right now. [INTERPOSING VOICES] Undi-hydration. I'm crying. Right. Chris, I was, like, listening to you. [INTERPOSING VOICES] You mean the jokes? I can't believe it. Down to earth. That was my favorite pun. That was a good one. Don't turn them a little more. That was good. [INTERPOSING VOICES] [LAUGHTER] We're going to get sued by the fucking-- Brandon? Brandon, that last three minutes. That's all a clip right there. That whole three minutes. That's just me dying in silence over here. Having a little fun. [LAUGHTER] It's like if I were to die subtly, it's like I need you to delete my search history. [LAUGHTER] He-- He-- It's a little awkward. That's legit. [LAUGHTER] [INTERPOSING VOICES] But that's a real case. [INTERPOSING VOICES] Wait, hold up. Where is this bar, though? Hey, can I tell you something? Yeah. [INTERPOSING VOICES] You guys know that thing called the-- [INTERPOSING VOICES] My bad, Chris. My bad. [INTERPOSING VOICES] [LAUGHTER] You remember that thing-- I don't even know if it-- [INTERPOSING VOICES] Oh. Go ahead. You know that Napoleon syndrome? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We call it the major mentality. Mm-hmm. It's true. He had hemorrhoids, too, didn't he? Probably. Napoleon? Yeah, Napoleon. He had all kinds of fucking problems back then, man. He had a short stitch. He had hemorrhoids, dude. No, it's laughing too hard. Go side stitch. All right, my bad. Man problems. Oh, that's true. If you're amazing, that's just a half stitch. [LAUGHTER] Dude. If you guys want to know what it's like to hang out and drink with military dudes on the weekend, this is it, dude. Hey. [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] Yeah. [INTERPOSING VOICES] Yeah. [INTERPOSING VOICES] [LAUGHTER] Oh, my God. You know that little gang? [INTERPOSING VOICES] Dude, just be a small formation. Jesus. [INTERPOSING VOICES] A small formation. A vegetarian. You can talk shit about little people. [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] Like, they don't go away. Hey, but real talk though. There's some town to dudes that are like, like, the dude to, uh, Warwick Davis. [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] Does it take to change the light bulb? Dude, Sean just turned on all of a sudden at the midget conversation. [INTERPOSING VOICES] He's here. [LAUGHTER] [LAUGHTER] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [LAUGHTER] [INTERPOSING VOICES] Oh, shit. [INTERPOSING VOICES] They're killing me. [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [LAUGHTER] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] Oh, yeah. Yeah, dude. I've been friends with this dude for 26 years, and he's never made a major joke the entire time. [INTERPOSING VOICES] [INTERPOSING VOICES] It's a secret fetish, dude. Yeah. No, no, no. One time I got into a fight with the media, I put them on the Fed. He's like, "Hey, I'm afraid of heights." [LAUGHTER] You put them on the fridge? [LAUGHTER] You just picked them up and said them up there? [INTERPOSING VOICES] There's sexual limitations on that. [LAUGHTER] [INTERPOSING VOICES] I'm just kidding. I'm just making shit up now. [LAUGHTER] [INTERPOSING VOICES] They're heavy. [INTERPOSING VOICES] They're heavy. Yeah. [INTERPOSING VOICES] I do could be like three foot eight, and he's as heavy as a five foot nine man. Yeah. They're dense. [INTERPOSING VOICES] Ask me how I know. I'm going to ask you. [LAUGHTER] How do you know? Because I tossed one one time. Oh, at the bar. Yeah. [INTERPOSING VOICES] You guys know how to make the little things in life count, right? How's that? You teach a midget math. Hail. [LAUGHTER] Give him a midget calculator. Right. [LAUGHTER] But not a GI 83 is too big, right? [LAUGHTER] He's like, "Bro, this is him." Oh, shit. [LAUGHTER] Remember the calculators with the watch? Right? That's it. Yeah. The Casios? Yeah. Oh, yeah. You can buy those like every BX or like five bits. No two bums. That's a real keyboard. Yeah. [LAUGHTER] I got it. I got it. Unsettling. Sorry. I'm not super tall. I'm like slightly above average, six foot one, right? Turn a corner one time. And there was a midget there. And I didn't see them. [LAUGHTER] So I'm just looking like eye level and shit. I turn the corner and I'm like, "What the fuck?" And I almost ran him over. He's like, "He's waving at me from across the room." And he was like, "That's a microwave." Yeah, dude. [LAUGHTER] Nice plug. I was shocked. Like, literally. What the fuck? Because he just threw me off like in real life. You were like, "She is out of here." You were a micro shocked. Wait. You tripped over a midget? Yes. You can see him? No. At all. And. Speed bump. Speed bump. Oh, no. Oh, no. Man. That's my thing, I guess. I feel like we were somewhere before all this. I'm obsessed with midgets. I love it. [LAUGHTER] Aw, you little friends? Yeah, man. [LAUGHTER] I'm obsessed with it, dude. I love it. He's upset. Where did this obsession begin? I am. How? So. So. Wait. Hey, my bad, guys. I'm sorry, bro. Do you think that Napoleon mentality is for real? You think the. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. [INTERPOSING VOICES] Yeah. I mean, I've met plenty of guys that like overcompensate for something. It's like the whole fucking joke about like dudes that drive really, really big trucks. Little white dudes, big trucks. Yeah. My granddad's one of them. My granddad's like five foot three. He drives a F-350. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the joke about somebody with a truck like that. It's like, "Sorry about your dick, bro." Yeah. He goes, "Don't care. I got this big truck." You know? That's like a comeback. Right. Yeah. It's true. Oh, man. You remember that ludicrous song? He's like, "I feel like we did this hanging from a necklace." [LAUGHTER] I did. He probably did that, man. Yeah. He probably did. Yeah. He's like, "I just want to midget training because I'll try to get a little fucked up." You know? Nobody's going to listen to this podcast. This is what it's like. It's rude. It's rude. You need to put it like a disclaimer. Right. Yeah. And this is where it all went wrong. Right. Safe for words. Yeah. Yeah. Make sure your audience is just-- I'm just saying, bro. I'm just joking. Yeah. 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