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[BLANK_AUDIO] [MUSIC] >> Yay. >> [MUSIC] >> Five on the floor, ride for my dogs. >> Way here's the game. >> You can check the score. >> Hustle hard, couple scars, rain, bubble frogs. >> Just like Buckle said, you in trouble, y'all. >> Check the flow plane, got the ball day. >> Y'all through the block, stopping one hand. >> And Pap we trust, it's time to have the guts. >> We here to bring the heat, y'all can hang it up. [MUSIC] >> Welcome to Five on the Floor, a daily insider show on the Miami Heat and the NBA featuring Ethan Skolnick, Greg Selvander and Alex Toledo, plus others from the Five Reason Sports Network. >> Welcome back to Five on the Floor. I'm your host, Greg Selvander. Today's floor plan with me, Brady Hawk. You can follow him at Brady Hawk 305. We're gonna get into some Terry Rogier talk. We haven't talked about him in a few episodes. And we wanna dive in to kind of where he stands. I think that there is a lot of question marks about the roster going forward, questions about who's gonna be on the roster. But I think Terry Rogier may be an integral part. So we're gonna get into him on this episode here. Before we do wanna tell you about a great sponsor of the Five Reason Sports Network. Are you a South Florida property owner with an insurance claim? Are you dealing with water mold or fire damage looking for a reputable, fully licensed, insured and certified contractor? Water Cleanup of Florida is here for you 24 hours a day. When a disaster strikes in your home or business, reach out to Michael and his team with over 60 years of combined experience. Water Cleanup of Florida understands the impact and stress and unexpected disaster may cause. Their team is prepared to handle any size disaster. Third generation contractors in South Florida, they maintain their sterling reputation with extremely diligent and honest work. 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Before we get into what may happen in the future, let's look back a little bit. Just this time in Miami, he was about 16, four and four. I think his averages were creeping a bit above that as we got. As he started to play better, and then the injury happened. But Brady, what were your thoughts on Terry Rose here's 30-some odd games in Miami that were here last season? >> Yeah, I thought it was funny when I saw that it was 30 games, because it didn't feel that way. It felt like a very shorter stint. I think that's because of the recent bias that you mentioned with kind of not being available late in the season into the playoffs and in the playing game. But I think it was tough for him because you acquire a guy mid-season. And you have him in this role where, first of all, we're having to discuss it, okay, should he take a step back and be a role player that's trying to get everybody else involved? Or is he just going to just step in and be scary Terry, the guy that's going to just take a bunch of shots and be this high volume guy? And it was like, it felt like everybody was talking around the heat facility. He was like, okay, he's going to step into this role and he's not going to press. He's not going to do too much. But it felt like this roster wasn't talented enough for him to do that. It's like if you're acquiring this guy, and as you mentioned, it's sending out a first-time pick, you need him to be that guy. You need him to step up in that way and be a kind of a primary creator for you. And we saw him do that certain points of the season. I remember that Cleveland game specifically was the big one, where you just kind of went on that big run, big shots late in that game. It's kind of what you wanted to see from him. And he's just a tough shot maker. And it's kind of what you wanted to see on a team that doesn't have any of those. They don't have any of that type of player that doesn't need stuff drawn up for him, that doesn't need a screen, that doesn't need, he just needs the ball in his hands and he can find a way to get a decent look for himself up. So I thought he figured that out at certain points when he got a little bit of a rhythm. But the reason I say it was tough for him, not only the original role, but he never had consistency with the guys around him. And partly, that's the big availability question that Pat Riley talked about, and that includes him because he wasn't available late in the season, obviously. But he was playing that Cleveland game, I remember, wasn't it just Jimmy? I don't even think Bam and Tyler were playing in that game, maybe. So that was the tough part, and that's why they need to fix that type of thing so they can now in the off season say, okay, we need this from you moving forward. We need you to play this role, no matter who's next to you. And it's funny, because I mentioned you before we started this. I feel like I forget he's even on the team at some point, just because of the recency bias and that's why we brought up doing this podcast. Because like, we don't talk about the guy he had done. We haven't done a lot of conversations about Terry Rosier, where he stands on this roster moving forward. I've seen him be putting these trade machines and everything, or I just feel like we're not talking about it on either side. If it's like, get a trade machine or if it's on the floor next season. So it's kind of is important. So right now it's about getting healthy because, I mean, look, we saw that Barry Jackson tweet late in the season where they were talking about career threatening. It's not real, but we didn't even think that was going to be in the question. So when you see that, we started talking about it a little bit differently. But they need that guy healthy, and look, if they're going to have him around, they're going to need him to be the guy that he was in that cleavage. Sounds like he will be healthy for next season. He should be ready. We don't know that for sure. But that's where it's trending last I heard. I also think it's important to kind of preface this conversation by saying, my belief is the heat view Terry Rosier as part of the solution, much more than part of the problem when you talk about what this, what juice the offense needs and just things, things of that nature and what the overall build looks like. I think they think Terry is a part of it. But also let's just acknowledge at $24.9 million, he's a movable contract with only one year past next year on. So I wouldn't say he's a player that's like, he's definitely not untouchable. He's definitely not being stopped. But if a huge deal were to come together, I think he could be part of it. But otherwise, I would expect Terry Rosier to be back next year. So it is important for us to talk about how he's going to play and also how he fits next to the other guys. I mean, what was your thoughts on his fit next to hero? Let's go there because I think that's where a lot of people are getting stuck with this roster and they're thinking, oh, Terry and Tyler can't play together and we got to choose one of the two. Maybe I choose the younger guy and we keep Tyler here. Maybe that's been the line of thinking a little bit. What were your thoughts on Tyler and Terry specifically as a back court last season? Yeah, I think that was the big question mark because we probably didn't even see it enough to the point where we have enough to talk about it. Because that was a big question. It was like, how will it look eventually? And we're still at the point in the offices where we're still kind of talking about hypothetical. So I think the tough part is that we're at the point now where we know they need a guy in that back court that can be high volume, that has to be on the ball. Because we spent the early stages of Jimmy's heat tenure. We're like, OK, a guy that needs to slide off the ball at times to give Jimmy his ability to get the ball. But now we're at the point where it's like Jimmy, he's not that regular season guy. He doesn't want to be that on ball guy that you need somebody that's going to create a ton to be that scoring punch. And in theory, you can say you have two of those guys that could kind of work off each other that you can, I guess, run their own lineups in some ways. The way you could stagger them as Miami tried to do. But it didn't really seem that that blew it. It seemed that certain points, it was kind of what my turn, your turn, my turn, your turn. They had certain points where they ran actions with the two, but it does seem like a point. As much as we could talk about Terry, his effort defensively, Tyler, his growth defensively, since since his rookie year, it's just a tough back court dynamic defensively. There's too many things you can attack teams, have attacked Tyler as we saw in the playoffs. Terry just being smaller in general is just easier that you can't really switch a ton with him. So I think just from the defensive aspect, it's tough to see that. And look, let's, let's, because I know we're going to always go back to the PAC conference because that's, that's where we're at in the offseason. He hinted at the fact when he brought up the, I think it was Ethan's question where you mentioned UD talking about Tyler being a six minute and he threw in the fact that it could be Terry or Tyler. Well, why does that, he didn't have to bring up either one of them. Yeah. Terry caught a stray. He did catch a stray. Like I think it's kind of that, that Pat's thinking is like it probably is going to be one of them. If it's a similar look, like they, they probably do need to stagger them and they need somebody that could, that could, I guess, anchor the bench unit away because there wasn't a fluidness, I guess, to say, look, is it similar to Mitchell and Garland situation? Like, look out, they're splitting those guys up because it's not working. It's kind of like the Tyler, Terry dynamic where like you have one guy that, I mean, two guys that need the ball in their hands that are trying to find their way. So it's like, I don't know, and Cleveland doesn't have a Jimmy Butler. So it's, there's only one ball to go around. So they will have to make that decision if this is the same roster. So that's another whole other conversation that we'll have to have, but 100%. There was just not enough to look at with the, I was looking at right now, I was trying to find their exact offensive and defensive rating, if I could find it right here. It was, let me see. We may have to come back to it because it's not popping up right now, but the, the point was that I, I'm curious to see because we didn't, I don't even know what the sample size was. Oh, I bet it's really small. It ended up being, we're trying to hold here. This is great podcast stuff here. This is great. So when you do something on the fly, Ethan would be proud of us 115 offensive rating and 118 defensive rating was within the regular season. I think this is 11 games. Yeah, that's the key, but still the 118 defense of rating, I think is, is kind of key to what I was just talking about. Like that, that's the part that's going to be tough to, you have to be, you have to have a lineup of three other dogs defensively. You have to have Jimmy playoff level defensively, you have to have Hey, wouldn't you have that game? That's probably what you have to have to make that work consistently. And I just don't know if that Miami's never going to have the ability to just pick guys and say, we're going to put this guy here in this guy here because they're never available. They, they have to do stuff on the fly. So I don't know that the defense supports kind of more of my focus, agree. I think the defensive part of this is where it's always going to come back to with those two guys. This is a small back court. A lot of people have asked, well, then why do they make the trade if Tyler and Terry don't fit together? They'll think that there's ways they could play together. But it's, it's all about, is this the back court that you can go with as a fixture, as a like a duo in your back court? I don't know that that's it either. So it is a little bit. There's question marks here. And then his health is still a big question mark. And there's also questions about what the rest of the roster is going to look like ahead. We're going to talk about next season, specifically what we could see from Terry that might change that could make this a better, more fluid transition for him specifically, because I still feel like he's going under that transition from Charlotte to Miami because he only did play the 30 games. So we'll get into next season in a bit before we do want to tell you about another great sponsor. And that is prize picks. Prize picks is the daily fantasy partner of fin of five reasons boards. They are for all of your power plays, flex plays, you can play them in Florida again. It's daily fantasy simplified. You just make your lineup, choose more or less on points, rebounds, assists. If you play other sports, you can play other sports as well. You can do two, three, four, five pick plays, all matching or using different sports. Sign up now use the code five that'll get your initial deposit match up to a hundred dollars. 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In the little over two seconds, your car can travel slightly more than one hundred seventeen feet, which is the same length as twenty bicycles. Anything that distracts you while driving is dangerous. That's why driving while texting can be deadly too. So put it down, it can wait. Don't drive distracted, shift into safe. A message from the Colorado Department of Transportation. Sorry, that was a rough transition just like Terry's was to Miami initially a little bumpy ride, but eventually you get in playoff form and we're in the off season. So next season, it's a tough one for me because we don't know what the roster is going to look like, but I think we can definitively say they need Terry to be a little bit, they need scary Terry to arrive and they need it to him to arrive consistently. And he did. And so I think that you need more of that. I thought he was playing pretty damn well right before the injury. I think that they're going to need him to be aggressive to a fault at times on this roster. We don't know what the rest of it's going to look like, but as a point guard, he's going to need to be putting pressure on the rim. For next season specifically, what are some things you think Terry Rosier could do differently or play or maybe not do differently that we want to see from him just specifically to next year, where were the avenues of his game that maybe we didn't get to see him completely thrive and show off yet or just your thoughts on him coming up next year. You mentioned him kind of playing at a higher level right before the injury. And one of the shifts he made was he eliminated a lot of those deep mid ranges that I think a lot of people were kind of sick of watching like his heel on the three point line and taking those tough step backs for those deep twos. And it was like, if you can turn those into pull up threes, it changes so much. You need to get threes up in this team. If you're going to have the ball in your hands a ton, you need to get those up and he's playing off ball just as much. It was kind of, that was the other big shift was they were kind of running them off screens and using them off ball. There was a game where he had like six or seven threes and I don't think he took a dribble on any of his three point makes. So they started trying to find ways of him just catching and shooting, but I think eliminating those pull ups and taking more pull up threes because he is such a good on ball shooter. There's stuff he did in Charlotte, those little side steps, like that is him. That is his game. You could try just let him get into that type of flow and then you mentioned putting your head down. He needs those paint touches, but I think more than the paint touches, he needs to just work on the finishing. I think if he could just kind of have that high level, if there was one thing and move forward to next season, I think if he could finish a little bit more efficiently, that changes a ton. That changes a whole lot for this team. If you have to kind of really start worrying about that and sinking guys off the corners and he could start working those kickouts, that's huge. So probably just the first and third levels and just kind of trying to eliminate that second level as much as possible. Look, the here are going to do that. They did it to Tyler. They've done it in the past, the guys. They want to eliminate that shot as much as possible, even if the guy is really good at it, just like Tyler. Tyler's great at it, but they want to turn those into either that floater or that three. I think that's probably where they're going to look to tear you the most and kind of change things up, I guess. I agree with you on the paint, just being more efficient with finishing. He hasn't necessarily been a great finisher, even back to his Charlotte days, but I do think that there could be some improvement there. I'm with you on all of that. The sidestep three is something he's got to get back to even more because that's when you know he's really in rhythm and he killed Miami doing that stuff, specifically up in Charlotte a couple of times. I mean, he just was nasty, so I'm ready to see some of that as well. I'm interested to see him get up more three-point attempts. I think that that's another big one. You mentioned the pull-up three or the on-ball threes and stuff like that. I want to see him get into it off-ball as well. We've talked about no dribble threes. That's the kind of stuff they need from him. As many three-point shots as they can get out of him, I think is going to help open things up. I'm not buying with getting to the rim. I don't know how they fit with another back court member. I'm not sold on the Tyler Hero thing yet. I don't know what's going to happen moving forward, but I would venture to guess one of those two probably will be here next year. Maybe that is a stretch for me to go that far, but I would think it doesn't make a ton of sense to have both of them. Maybe Terry does get featured in an off-the-bench role. It's going to be an interesting off-season. There's so many question marks. I feel like we started this Terry Rogier conversation 17 minutes ago, and we've got more questions than we really do have answers. That's going to probably be a common theme with a lot of guys throughout this summer until we figure out what the rest of the roster looks like. We did want to bring you an episode about Terry Rogier specifically, about his final thoughts, Brady, before we close here. I want to ask you one last question before we finish this one. If the heat were to get Donovan Mitchell, would Terry Rosier A not be on the team, B, be starting next to Mitchell, or C, would he be coming off the bench? I'm going C. I'm going C as the microwave off the bench. They still need scoring. I think that he would still be here after that transaction because they have other contracts that can get this to work. I just think their most attractive trade package may not include Terry Rogier. I would expect him to then come off the bench, not next to Donovan Mitchell. That's crazy. If Donovan becomes a reality for me, I think he would come off the bench. Do you disagree? I think it would probably depend on who else they have because I don't know who would be starting a point guard, I guess, at that point. Would they start the lawn? If they don't have an envelope, they could do that. I guess they could, and he's done that before, but I guess, and look, they're positioned so they would probably lean in that direction, but if they were to try to get a defensive guy, it wouldn't be crazy to think the lawn could be a starter in that instance, but that's a tough sell. I don't think Terry would be against it because I don't think he's one that you'd have a tough sell to be coming off the bench in that way, so I think he'd accept it, but it would be interesting. I mean, this is, once again, this is what we talk about during the season. We have these conversations, and then every guy is out, you know, this game, that game, this game, that game, and they just have to throw their best players, start in the game every time. So I guess this is like a real future thing. It's like, what would be happening if everybody was healthy in the playoffs, but that's a true hypothetical. But yeah, I would say they would probably lean in the, and look, that's the scoring punch you need. That's building a roster that has like different avenues that you can hit on that gives Jim the ability to play his game in the regular season and get to where he wants to be interesting. That's a big hypothetical. I just wanted to just get your opinion on it because it's, I think that's like an interesting one for Terry, because that's like the one kicker, I feel like, that we don't really know about it. You're right. Of all the players that are out there that he could pursue, the one that I think impacts Terry the most would be Spidey. Like if they get Mr. Mitchell in here, then that would, obviously, there'd be impacts to what his future looks like and what his role looks like. There's other guys, there's more seamless fits, whether it's Brandon Ingram or someone like that. You just, you know, Terry would be starting in that instance. Donovan Mitchell, it's a little different. So it's a good point. I think that those hypotheticals, they kind of hamper some of this discussion at times because we can't really go down every road because we don't know what the team's going to look like yet. So we're a little premature here, but we wanted to give love to Terry Rosier. I still think it was the right move at the time. I still think Terry Rosier can be part of the solution in Miami. I still think that Terry Rosier can be a good fit in the back court for Miami. I don't know that it's next to Tyler Hero, and that is the big question mark. So hopefully we've, you know, about next season, we appreciate all of the downloads, all of the subscribes, all the likes for Brady, for myself. Thank you for joining us, and we'll have you covered for another episode tomorrow. Why wear a seatbelt? The math speaks for itself. You have a one in 40 chance of being in a crash this year, but wearing a seatbelt reduces your risk of serious harm by 50%. Their rollover crash more than three out of five deaths are from those who weren't wearing theirs. Seatbelts save lives, over 370,000 in fact. Most passengers killed in crashes weren't buckled up. Nobody is above the laws of physics, buckle up, and shift into safe. A message from the Colorado Department of Transportation. 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