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Best of seven series between the Canucks and the Edmonton Oilers with Satyar Shah, Landon Ferraro, and Biknazar, we are going to bring in Randy, Jana, into the conversation in just a moment. You are listening to the Canucks and proposed game show presented by the number five orange on the home of your Canucks Sportsnet 650. Get your thoughts into our Dunbar Lumber text inbox, 650-650. You can also grab a phone line, 604-280-0650. And we will get you the thoughts of the Canucks head coach live at the podium when the game ends. And I would wager a guess. And I don't think they're long odds. I think they're pretty favorite heavy odds that head coach isn't going to be too pleased with that performance tonight. That simply wasn't good enough in an elimination game where you had a chance to advance to the conference final. I suspect it's suspectably similar to game four commentary. Now, can he crack the whip that quickly after doing it in game four and saying the same things? But yeah, that is a dispiriting performance from the Vancouver Canucks tonight. Yeah, and honestly, I don't even think it fully matters what he comes out and says tonight. Like not to discount his job and what he's done, of course, but it's going into game seven. The guys know the stakes. The guys know the stakes. They know that they did not play that well tonight. They didn't move their feet. Like the Canucks are built to move and be aggressive. And it just wasn't there tonight. And that's OK. But it doesn't need to be anything more than that wasn't good enough move on. Yeah, absolutely. Let's go to Edmonton where Randy Janda called the game alongside Brendan Bachelore. 5-1 Canucks loss. The crowd was buzzing in Edmonton. And really, Randy, you got through the first period. And it was tied to one. Edmonton had a goal to sell out at the end of the first. You thought, all right, the crowd's going to be nervous. And they seem nervous from our standpoint for the first bit of the second. But that changed in a hurry when the Oilers really stepped it up. Yeah, absolutely, guys. And that was kind of a reverse of the situation of what we saw in game five, right? The Canucks entered the second period in game five and really ramped it up and really locked it down. And Edmonton did the same thing. And it goes back to what we saw in game four, where they used-- they started stacking those shifts, right? You started hitting the Canucks with pressure. And the Canucks couldn't cope with that. Flipping the pucks out. What happens? You start eating pressure. You start getting tired as the shift link goes longer and longer. And that's a recipe for disaster. So-- and that's exactly what played out in that second period. Hyman gets a two-one goal. And three-one goal is a boulevard. But that's just the team eating pressure, not skating the puck out, not getting the puck out quick enough. And you do that against the Edmonton Oilers team. You're going to pay. I'm curious, too, if that opening power play in the second period, if maybe that just kind of gets the Oilers' legs moving all over again. Because it was kind of a gut punch there at the end of the first period. Don't get that goal. And just something goes your way. So Doral takes this penalty, and you think, all right, here's the chance for us to get our momentum back. And eventually, the goal comes later. But just to be able to get your rhythm back into a game. For sure. And I think overall, the power play, even though they might have had some chances-- a couple of chances at the very most, it did sap the momentum, whether it was in the first period, whether it was in the second period, or even starting off the third period, you had moments where the Canucks did get their looks. There were over four on the power play tonight. And rather than building any sort of momentum, it actually, once again, the entries really took away any confidence. So I think that performance is a disjointed one. It was one where you're not going to be happy. If you're a Rick Talkett, I suspect you'll probably say something very similar to what we heard after game four. But the reality is, one team had the desperation tonight, and Edmonton brought it. They were aggressive on the four check, and it really picked up after, even though they were playing fast in the first period or trying to play fast, it was pretty low event. When you started looking the shots on goal, you started looking at the high dangers. But the second period, it just opened up for them. And Vancouver couldn't cope with that. And really, more than anything, the power play has actually dented their confidence rather than helped them build it. Well, Landon, I didn't know, Randy, but I want to get your thoughts on this, too. You mentioned the power play. You have a five-on-three, and the two looks you get are straight ahead looks from Quinn Hughes, neither of which really hits the net. You've got to create a better look five-on-three than what they were able to generate. Yeah, and you throw out a word of ad lib. And I think that's something that the Canucks really need in their power play right now. It's so stationary and so already decided what the next play is going to be. I have the puck at the top. I'm passing it to the left flank, and it moves down to the bottom. Like, everything is so structured. When they've had their aggressive and good power plays, it's been when a guy ends up in a spot that he's not generally in, and there's movement, and there's plays being made just off of what's available, not what is in my head already, right? And the coaches made comments about using the word mechanical robotic at times, and that's kind of what we saw again. And, you know, in the pregame, guys, we talked about sat, there's kind of steps in the right direction where they didn't score, but at least you got a different look at the net front. You saw JT Miller in tight, trying to jam away. Today, you know, I think Edmonton knew that those seam passes were coming. How many times did they have sticks in the lane predicting that's going to happen? You essentially funnel them to the flanks and say, all right, what can you do differently to beat us? Because if you go through the middle, you're not going to get those looks. And, yeah, Landon, 100%, it was very, as the coach said a couple of weeks ago, guys, it was very mechanical. - I also just look at it tonight. You knew at some point, like game two, the big guys came. I'm looking at the primary assist tonight. Dry side of McDavid, McDavid, McDavid, dry side of them. - Yeah. - Five goals, and those two guys set everything up. - One, the other thing that they did tonight, guys, was able to win this game pretty much heading into the third period. They were able to limit their ice time. So those guys came up big, had to feel good performance, and for guys who have been playing about 30 minutes a game for a large part of this series, they had pretty light nights in terms of ice time. I mean, playing around 20 minutes each tonight. So, yeah, dry side of 1732, Conor McDavid, 2059. - And a big part of this, guys, the last two days, they didn't skate, right? They didn't hit the ice, so they were given a little bit extra rest. And there's been a lot of speculation of what they're dealing with and who has what and all of that. Whether fatigue is a factor, but the reality is, you mentioned it, five goals for the Edmonton Oilers, and those guys had a role in every single one of them in some way or form. The best players showed up tonight, and that was Leon Dryseidel and Conor McDavid. Now, the benefit of this for the Vancouver Canucks is that you got that game on home ice. Your big dogs didn't have the game that they didn't last one, so this is a chance to elevate in front of your own home crowd. You've got the last change, so you can dictate the matchups again, because I thought Nalbloc, usually starting with McDavid against Miller, every single period, he went for a different line, tried to get away from that matchup a little bit, so Tockett's gonna at least have that back in his side. - No, absolutely. And Randi, listen, I know it's been a late night, you guys gotta get back to Vancouver as well. Any thoughts on what to expect to see here heading to game seven on Monday? - Yeah, this is gonna be a wild one, guys. It's been a while since Vancouver's hosted a game seven, and I just hope to see a desperate team, Vancouver, has shown that they're a resilient bunch. They, even during the regular season, was one of the more consistent teams losing back-to-back games very, very infrequently, so this is a team, they gotta show that hunger, and Edmonton was no doubt the hungrier team, the desperate team, but they're both gonna be, it's supposed to be desperate in game seven, so I think what we're gonna see is, we're gonna see a motivated group, we're gonna see a group that understands the stakes here, and really leans into this challenge of Conor McDavid and Leon Dries, so today they're off, and in game seven, they're gonna be on home ice powered by their own crowd, so I'm looking forward to it, I think it's a huge moment for this group, and one that they can really live up to, so it's gonna be, you know, if you've got plans on Monday night, cancel them, listen to SportsNet 650, find a TV, so you can watch SportsNet turn on our audio feed as well, it's going to be must-see TV and must-see, or must-listen radio, so please, yeah, cancel those plans 'cause I'm looking forward to that one. - Yeah, yeah, it's can't miss game seven, one game winner takes all, and that's what it's all about on the playoffs, man. Great stuff, Randy, calling the game alongside batch, we look forward to seeing you back in town on Monday. - Cheers boys, have a good one, enjoy the show. - You got it, that is Randy Janda, called the game alongside batch, a five-one Canucks loss in game six in Edmonton, series now tied at three, and the power play is a big topic of conversation on the text-then box, Ballerage says, power play is embarrassing, refs did everything to give the Canucks a chance to make a three-two going into the third, if not three-three, the backdoor, pretty pass play, needs to stop, especially against a shaky goalie, and I think Ballerage is right, I mean, that was the Canucks chance, they're down three-one, you have a two-man advantage, it cares over to the third, after they didn't score on the two-man advantage, at least the one-man advantage in the third period, did nothing in the third early on, but you have a chance there to really get back into this game, and that's what happened, I think he's absolutely right on, they kept going for the same cross-scene play, and it kept getting deflected every time. - Wasn't even just the rescuing of a chance, 'cause the Oilers, there's too many men penalty, right, like that day, their own-- - They were doing everything they possibly could to let them back. - Yeah, and you're just thinking this moment, it's like, here's this seat of doubt, we've been talking about so much with this team, can you plant it early, and clearly it's planted, 'cause you're here at game seven, but a moment where they get frazzled, and it's like, you just gotta take advantage of the opportunity, and it's like they were waiting to try to engineer this opportunity, rather than just put some pressure on Stuart Skinner. - Yeah, and as Redeep was talking there, like, he throws out desperate, like this team needs to be desperate in game seven, and he's 100% right, but I don't think he even means it in the way that we take it in the sense of like, I'm panicked and it's desperate, you know, like when the Canucks are on their game, they play a desperate style. - Covid victory, basically. - Yeah, like they are all in, no matter what, they're coming out with that puck if it comes to a corner, and that's what makes the Canucks so fun to watch, and you can see the night, there's little peaks here and there, and you're expecting them to take that extra step and kind of turn it into something more, and just, the juice just wasn't really there tonight. - No, it really wasn't, and it's disappointing, it's frustrating to watch, 'cause it seemed like there were opportunities there for the Canucks to get back into it, and they just weren't getting into those spots, and I saw somebody text in and say, it's not so much on Edmonton, it's more about what Vancouver didn't do, I'm not sure that's fair to Edmonton's effort, 'cause they played well, give them credit eliminating. - They play in Edmonton's time, yeah. - And they're top guys and everything like that, but I understand what the texture's getting at, and so far as, there is a lot of battles there, 50/50s, and it seemed like the Canucks just weren't getting there quick enough, weren't, as determined to win those battles, and even on the first goal, Edmonton scores, like Petters was trying to close down a hallway, doesn't close them completely, then Quinn Hughes kind of just waves at the puck, he misses it, next thing you know, a hallway is in, it just, there wasn't enough commitment there to every single inch of ice, it can test every play. - Well, the play we were talking a lot about, just going back to the power play, is bodies to recover pucks, you get it low, and it was 2-1-2, and you got the extra man, utilize it. - Yeah, like the player talking about it's Petterson on the right wing, he walks in with it, and he starts to pull up around the hash mark, and he's got two players within what, five feet of him already, really his only option is back up, and if you're the PK and you know, well, that's all he's got, it makes things real easy. He could have maybe thrown it around, but there's only one guy over there as well, like it's just, it's disjointed, and the whole point of a power play is, yes, you have one more player, but that doesn't mean you get to back off, right? Like if anything, it's almost try harder, like you have to take it, and you get to this time of the year, you can't let those slip through, especially against the team that you've done a good job holding them with all this firepower, you've done a good job, you can't let it slip. - No. - Well, yeah. - No, and going to a game seven here, I think the mindset's gonna be a big part of it. Now, we'll talk more about this on the other side here, keep getting your thoughts into a Dunbar number, text them box, 650-650, you can also grab a phone line, 604-280-650, after five-one Canucks loss in Edmonton, the head coach's thoughts, that's next, and more from you, on the Canucks Central Post game show, presented by the number five orange on SportsNet 650. - Hey, it's Dan Reacho, and Satyar Shah. - Join us for Canucks Central, where we will set up the game and break down the latest around the Canucks. 4 to 6 p.m. in post-game on SportsNet 650, and wherever you get your podcasts. - This is where you talk Canucks. You're listening to the Canucks Central Post game show, on the official home of the Canucks, SportsNet 650 and the SportsNet Radio Network. (crowd cheering) - And the owners of a face-off get a quick goal. Fans having fun, and they're having even more fun now, as the face-off was won cleanly by dry-saddle, right to what Andrew Kane, and he beat She-Lobs to make it five to one. - Quick strike offense from the Oilers, as dry-saddle, who hasn't had a great net in the face-off circle, wins it back, and if Andrew Kane, ready to strike, goes club side and archer She-Lobs as Roger's place is now bouncing the Oilers with a 5-1 lead after a pretty good sequence by the Vancouver Canucks. But that's the thing about these Oilers, do you give them an inch? They'll take a foot, and it's now 5-1. - They've taken a mile. - Edmonton takes game number six, a 5-1 victory over the Vancouver Canucks, and this is the Canucks Central Post game show presented by the number five orange on the home of your Canucks, sports net 650, Satya Arshah with Landon Ferraro and Bick Nazar, and as always, get your thoughts in to our text inbox, 650-650. You can also grab a phone line, 604-280-0650 or toll-free, 1-888-275-0650. Now, before we go to the phone boards, Bick, what is happening on the text inbox? - Kevin, Kevin from Calgary, power play let us down, we had our chances early, it's been our biggest weakness all year, they can go out there on the power play, and just stand still. Clearly a personal issue with the problems lasting this long, that is Kevin from Calgary. This one, Skinner didn't answer any questions since we didn't have enough shots on him. McDavid didn't play that great dry settle, same, we needed more intensity across the board, PK was good, power play was really poor, a lot of power play text going in, obviously. - Yeah, and we broke that down a little bit before the break, especially the 5-1-3 and not being assertive enough. But on that point too, about Leon dry settle and Connor McDavid, Bobby from The Docs, says Edmonton threw everything they had to us, they won't do that again in game seven. I'm confident that our boys will grind out another win in fields the Canucks are gonna bounce back. But did Edmonton throw their best? McDavid and dry settle, huge performance tonight, but was that the best that we could have seen from those two players tonight? Or did the Canucks even force them to play their best? - Honestly, I don't think it's anywhere near the best that the Edmonton Oilers can play. I feel like McDavid and dry settle tonight were, they were obviously very good. They had points and big points. But at the same time, I feel like they played at the caliber of a very good hockey player in this league. Not the all-world talent that we're used to seeing. They have all the first assists. The game all went through them, but at the same time, there wasn't any points, a couple, I shouldn't say there wasn't any, but they grabbed it and just took it off, like took it off the ice themselves and had that burst of speed that's so impressive. - It was really just the Nugent Hopkins goal, right? Where McDavid gets a loose puck in the neutral zone, he gets to burst down and slide it to a dangerous area. That's given that they can play at that speed and very well at that speed, that's really the only moment. It was a slower paced game 'cause it didn't require Edmonton to play at the speed. But the game too, just like the intricate levels that they were able to do given goes, they looked maybe more puck dominant in the game too, but certainly looking at what they did tonight, it's a productive night, but yeah, I think there's a faster fastball from those two to throw. - Yeah, and I mean, the interesting part is, you're asking, was that their best game? I don't think it was, but I don't think the Canucks asked them or forced them to play their best game. And it was good enough, obviously. I mean, they had a productive game and they were stars, but I was kind of, we were talking about this in the break. I mean, they were really good, but I'm not sure that we saw this, like this huge flash from those guys, which tells you how much better the Canucks have to be for game seven, 'cause I'm pretty sure a dry, subtle McDavid can still be a lot better for that game seven as well. So if this wasn't the wake up call you need, you'll be in, like you need to be on top of your toes on Monday. - Yeah, and it's for, you know, not putting panic into it because it is the best part of playoffs. It doesn't matter if you lose nine one or two one. The game's done, you move on and you just have to be ready for the next game. But if you're looking, going into this game, what would be one of the worst things to say if everything goes poorly tonight, what's the worst thing that can happen? - Right. - McDavid and Drycidal not having to play crazy minutes. And because of how the game went and the score got to what it got to, you know, those guys were back to very normal amounts of ice time where, you know, if you take the loss tonight, but they play 26 to 28 minutes again, maybe they're a lot more tired heading into game seven. - I'm curious too, we're getting a lot of text of like, how come the Canucks have been so inconsistent? Look, it's 500 hockey through six games here. It's tough to analyze what's inconsistent and what's not. But was it like, did you feel that maybe they were gassed coming after game five? 'Cause it was arguably their best game of the season. - It's like an emotional letdown on it. - Emotional letdown, or even physical, although you don't want to see that in a playoffs, but they played to such a high level in that game five. And it was just one of the best performances I've seen this year or certainly for years. And I just wonder if the letdown from that emotionally or physically two days removed, what did that show up at all? - Yeah, and I think a bit of it is the fact of you're expecting that to carry on, right? And in your head, you're before the game, you're telling yourself, okay, we need that same pressure. I need to make sure I have my legs and I'm moving and I'm doing my part. But you also are still kind of thinking, we crushed them last game. We just got to do that again. - Yeah. - And to say, just do that again. - It's not that simple, right? - It's not that simple. - Well, you have it in your locker. At least there's something of a reference point you have that we know what we can do and how to be successful. It's not like you're looking for that game heading into game seven, not knowing that you've shown it already in the playoffs. - Yeah, and I feel like, you know, talk would have went into the locker room after the game and said, guys, that wasn't good enough. Do you agree? And they'd all sit there and nod and then he would say, do you know what we need to do next game? Yep, that's it, right? Like you get to this point of the year, there doesn't need to be these crazy speeches and so many Xs and O's like, the Canucks know how they need to play. They know they laid an egg tonight. It is what it is. It's done, refocus. - Yeah, 100%. Pardip says PDA needs to be demoted to their third line and need to load up the top six. He's handling the puck worse than Huberto. Whatever's wrong with them, it's not getting any better. I don't disagree that tonight was not a good game for him. And this is part of the thing we talked about on the pregame show guys that I love to sit here and say, yeah, we saw Patterson play a great game and we know he's gonna be better tonight. But we've seen some good games and he hasn't strung them together. And he wasn't alone. There's a lot of help tonight or maybe not enough help from other guys as well. But we didn't see a continuation from him getting to a higher peak last game tonight. And that's part of the struggle still. It's one thing to have a good game. How do you string together a few good games? - Yeah, he had the one moment where he hits the post, but that's really about him tonight. Well, we're talking about him on a play with Dylan Holloway where he doesn't push him towards the boards or at least impact that play to make him ball with a puck. That's really the only moment we're thinking about at least Patterson. And then obviously the power play. - But see, I think that play and there's one, was it in the third I made rewind for? The one that they came around the net. - Oh, right, yeah. - They throw it right up. The guy in three Canucks are around it all the way to the fourth blue and no one touches it. Like it's a bit of that waiting for the right play to happen, waiting for someone else to make the right play. Like it's just, and that's where a bit of, that emotional let down is a thing from last game where it's emotional, but because of that, it goes to a bit of mental, which affects your feet, right? Like, Patterson is a great skater. He takes one more hard stride. He's right there, right? Like it's just those little things where if you're tired, you think you got it and you don't make that extra stride. - Yeah, no, that's a great observation. And then something they need, those guys that dig a lot deeper, heading into game seven on Monday. But how does the Canucks head coach feel out of five won loss in game six in Edmonton? Here is Rick Talkett at the podium. - Rick at one one out of the first period on the road. Seemed like you were in pretty good shape. Where'd it go wrong? - Yeah, I think those two quick goals. You know, they'll miss management puck. And then it's just unraveled after that. You know, I mean, gotta give them, Edmonton, when they got those goals, especially the second and the third, they built energy. You can tell they had a lot of legs and they started dictating play. Your whole season has been about system and structure and defending the middle of the ice and the Hyman goal. He's sort of allowed to stand in front of the net. The new goal, he goes to the net and is allowed to get there. Is that surprising to you, disappointing to you? - Well, I mean, you know, you're disappointed a little bit, but you know that we are a good bounce back team. That's the way I look at it. Our job right now is we got to flush this game. Obviously, some guys know they have to play better. And you got to get, you have 48 hours to get it, your energy back. That's the way it is, it's a game seven. You know, people would kill it to play in this situation right now. And you know, we got to make sure we act like we want to kill, like, you know, be in that situation. But we are a good bounce back team. I expect us to bounce back. I know we'll get some good efforts from some of you guys. I really believe it. - Rick, with how the series has gone, just where one game doesn't seem to have any relationship to the next one in terms of results, but also in terms of how they look and how they match up. Does that give you anything to draw from in sort of preparing for a game seven? - Yeah, everything's, I told you guys, every game's different. You know, team could play really well, and I see them not so well. It just seems, there's a different story. So that's the way you got to look at it. You know, they had some good flow, Edmonton and they kind of, you know, we lost a little bit of our staples or when that happens. So you got to, we just got to get it back. - It seems like a lot of the logic of your success against Connor, actually sort of almost carried over into this game in terms of they looked like they were avoiding the Miller match up, the power play was quiet, and he still kind of finds a way. Is there something you need to do better against him, or is it just one of those tip-your-cap games from him? - No, I think we just got to play a better team game. You know, I think that's really what it comes down to, you know, to be honest with you. - Rick, it seemed like in game five, you possessed the puck more. You know, we talked a bit about your breakout and how you improved between game four and five. Tonight, it felt like you struggled to break the puck out a little bit. And you know, can you talk a bit about that puck management and how you maybe didn't move the puck as well as you wanted? - Yeah, the first were okay, you're right. Second and third. Once again, I felt when a guy got the puck, he kind of waited, and then we had the support guy waited. And you play any playoff, how you can't wait. And I thought we waited tonight. We didn't wait the other night, so hopefully we can bounce back from that. - Not suggesting that she loves is the reason for the outcome, but it was five, will possess his play. And is there a chance that Demko plays game seven? - No, Demko's not gonna play a set game seven, but no, he was fine, you know? He was fine, we have a lot of confidence in already. - What do you think of the power play tonight? Obviously a five on three opportunity, late in the second period, if you guys score there, it kind of swings the game. - Yeah, I mean, there's some looks there where we're missing. I think, you know, we're going to the same luck a couple of times, I thought we was gonna make sure there's some other looks that we gotta go to, you know? But that's a, that half has to happen organically. I think we just missed a couple of reads. If we did, somebody would have a really glorious chance. I think, you know, it kind of zapped us a little bit, our energy. - Quinn talked about how if you would have been presented with this opportunity in September, you would have taken it. How much does this group need to look at game seven as an opportunity, as an exciting moment? - It's huge opportunity for us, for everybody. Like I said, a lot of people would want this. I know it stings because we didn't have a good effort tonight. And they played really well, it tipped their hat. They had a lot of energy, and they played Desperate Hockey. But saying that, you gotta, you know, you gotta flush it down. And you got 48 hours to get yourself ready for a huge game that not many players are playing in this type of atmosphere. There's a lot of players, you know, teams looking are gonna be watching that game, right? So, I mean, I think we play the game as players is to be on that stage. And so, you know, somebody wants to play like you wanna be a hero on, would you play Monday? That's what I think. - Talk, I mean, if you wanna come in and said, you know, after one period, the shots are four or four. I mean, that's a blueprint for a great road game. But would you have liked to see in at least your team make skin or handle the puck a little more for a guy that hasn't played in a couple of games? - Yeah, we made it easy for him. I mean, he played well, give him a lot of great play well, but we didn't really give him much. When Edmond was making a push, you know, we didn't get on a four-chuck. And like I said, I don't think we were, obviously we didn't skate well, especially the second half of the game. - Just one other thing. What have you taken in your hockey career playing in a game seven that maybe translates to what you can pass on to your players? - Well, I think for me, like, I mean, a lot of short shifts, a lot of desperation, puck comes around the wall. If you gotta put that puck in your mouth and skate it out, to get it out, you gotta do that. If there's a chance to block a shot, block the shot, if there's a two-on-one, you gotta execute. I mean, it's just, these are big moments and you're looking for guys to want it. You know, want that big moment. You know, don't be scared of it. Go after it, you know, go after this. That's what I, that's, I think, my advice to everybody. - You battle all season long to win the division so you get to host game seven. How big a factor is that? Your home fans last change everything. - Yeah, I mean, our fans are unreal. I mean, they're great fans too. Maybe they'll give us some juice, yeah. I think, well, you know, like I said, we've got 48 hours to kind of figure this out. - How much of tonight do you think was one team was facing elimination and one team wasn't? - Yeah, maybe a little experience. Maybe, you know, I thought, I'll be honest, I thought we were ready for it. And after the first, we were okay. You know, killed the couple, you know, that's, like I said, that power plays unreal and I thought we did a good job again of staying like, getting them off the smart sheet. - And you've talked a little bit about it, but with a team with so many guys who have never been through anything like this, never played a real game seven, how important is the messaging and the mindset between now and the start of game seven? - Yeah, like I told the players, you gotta stick together. You know, we're gonna probably be at the ranks for some time tomorrow. And I'm a big believer in sticking together, groups of people. I don't like one or two people, you know, it clicks, not so much clicks. We're not a clicking team, but I like people, especially these next 48 hours. So I think that's the best way for inexperienced guys to be surrounded with people and confident people. And I think we have to be confident. - Rick, you talked after the last game about liking the physicality from your team. Do you think-- - Say it, I'm sorry, sorry. - You liked the physicality from your team after game five. What was your thoughts on the physicality tonight? - I was kind of like a game, it was just there sometimes, you know, like I said, the first four shots, you know, it was at four or four shots, one one like you were saying, perfect road game. And I thought, we just needed a little more push and we didn't get it. So hopefully, you know, like I said, we got 48 hours to get our energy back. - Do you lean on the veterans in your group who've been there in this situation before over the next 48 hours? - Yeah, I mean, you lean on your best players and veterans, absolutely, you know, to calm the waters down, for sure. - That is Canucks head coach Rick Talkett at the podium and brought to you by Tile Town. From Vision Reality, Tile Town has everything you need for your tiling project. See them today in Victoria, Richmond Langley, and online at mytiledown.ca. That's a Canucks head coach after a 5-1 loss in game six. We're going to a game seven and he kept repeating. We have 48 hours to figure this out. You have to flush this one and move around and fast-80 Gregory did the math five times, he said that. So Landon is very clear what the coach's message is to the guys, flush this and move on as quick as you can. - Because at the end of the day, this game does not matter, right? Like, you can go through and look at the chances again, stand, look at the D zone and all of that. But, you know, the guys know where they made mistakes. They know where, oh, I was a little soft in the D zone coverage here. Like, it's, you look at it again, you know, they'll be at the rink tomorrow, they'll come in, do a little stretch, move around a little bit. And you'll quickly look at a couple of things and again, it's not crazy X's and O's just, hey, just sharpen up, we need this to be tight for Monday. Like, that's all that matters now. It's just making sure everything is as tight and ready to go. - I thought it was interesting, the way you touched talked about, you know, we're not a clicky team and all these things. And you gotta be together. You've played in the game seven, these 48 hours leading into it. Just the personal relationships. So how important is that? - It's unbelievably important. You know, the game seven I played in with Detroit against Tampa in the first round. You know, I was called up at the end of the year and played the last three games and then the seven playoff games. So it wasn't like I had these crazy long relationships with, you know, Cronwall and friends and guys like this, but you're sitting in that room and you can just feel no matter what's happening, the guy next to you's got your back, right? Like, and that was a very veteran heavy team. This Canucks team's very different. Like a lot of those guys had won cops and been in those situations a ton, but you look around and you just see the comfort in the uncomfortable, right? And that, as a young kid playing in his first game seven, like that calmed me down so fast. Just seeing that veteran presence, they can, you look over and you're like, you know what, we're gonna be okay. I'll just follow him. - No, it's a great way of putting it. And that's what guys are gonna have to rely on here heading into game seven and he spoke about that too. This text says you can't help but feel the Oilers have the confidence advantage going into game seven after that lopsided win. What do you guys think? Well, the coach said asked about, you know, one game not relating to the next game. He said every game is different. You can play one game but not the next one. And I think that's a lesson in this series. We can talk momentum. We can talk about all this all we want, but that has not really been a thing yet here. - Yeah, you would have said that about the coach coming into tonight, right? They played such a fantastic game. They get that late winner and they think, all right, this is their opportunity to advance and upset the story for the Oilers to make this progress as a franchise. But it started well but didn't end well, obviously, for Vancouver. - No, and for fans, it's kind of a confidence shaking loss. Marty, the red says, I was really confident after last game, but that confidence has eroded all the way from me. This was not just a poor showing all around. Canucks hit full mid mode today and that scares me for Monday, Marty, the red. But I think that's the swings, right? When you watch playoff hockey, when you're winning like game five, the euphoria Canucks fans were feeling, man, where went away from going to the conference final? I bet you 90, most Canucks fans, if not all of them, were at least somewhat daydreaming about going to the conference final. You feel so confident and so good. You're so excited. You're jacked for the game tonight. - Checking hotels and Dallas. - Yeah, maybe, right? And then this is a gut punch. And it's like, all of a sudden, it's like, that conference is gone and you're like, what if they don't win? Now you've already thought about what it's gonna be like. It's like, you know if you're, whether you're looking to rent the place or buy a home and you go fall in love with the place and then you can't get it, right? And I think that's kind of what it's like. Man, this is gonna be my place. And at the end, you find out you can't close it. And I think that's the fear you have now that, oh man, I thought we're moving on. Now I'm not sure what's gonna happen, that's just the emotional swing of the playoffs 'cause every single game is its own entity and that's the way you have to approach it. - And that's the beauty of sports, if you really think about it, right? Like the fans get to lose their marbles after the game and just let it all out, right? And the players are in this position and paid handsomely to handle these situations where it doesn't go right. Again, that's all right. You move on and this game, again, as much as it doesn't feel great and it didn't look that great, man, it's game seven. - Yeah, it's game seven, man. That's what it's all about. We'll talk more about that. We'll get to more of your text messages. Let's take one phone call here before we hit the breakdown. We're not people waiting patiently to get on. Let's go to Richmond and we have Sam on the line. Sam, thanks for calling in. What are your thoughts after this tough Canucks loss in Edmonton tonight? - Hey, Sam, how are you? - I'm great, man. - Really? 'Cause I feel terrible. - No, I'm great. Listen, we're here talking about a playoff game. It's game six, second round of the playoffs. Connects to go into a game seven. If I'm not excited doing this job right now, I should not be in this business, Sam. - No, no, I understand, but does anybody else remember last time it not? I'm not a negative person, maybe I am, but it doesn't matter. - We'll see you about that. - My point is that the last time we were in a game seven, we all know what happened. We don't have to bring that up again. But yeah, I never would have expected what had been five one. I thought for sure it was gonna be close, but I just felt like they just didn't care tonight. I just thought they were just awful. Feel off at an off game, but I think I read somewhere, I just someone tweeted or something that they're usually good after when they have a back-to-back game, and they usually lose the game that they love just a lot, they usually come back better in the next game, so hopefully. But yeah, no, I don't know. Like I just heard talking and you guys just played it too about demo playing. I don't think maybe he's ready yet. We'll see, but hopefully it's just a better effort than tonight because tonight was just a bizmo, and you're right, it is game seven and nothing's better than that, but we'll see. Anyhow, thanks guys. - Yeah, you got a Sam, thanks to the phone call, and it may be better things for everybody on Monday. - Just a quick reference point. I think he's referencing the Boston game seven. - Game seven, yeah. - Game seven against Vegas. Now I know it's the bubble, but I'm just saying, no, I know they lost that one, but I'm just saying, there was another game seven, so that some of these guys have gone through. I know it's not the same, but like Brock has been through this, Patterson's been through this, he was middle. They've all kind of seen one. It wasn't the same, I get it, but we've gotten some text, be like, oh, it's like 2011 all over again, game seven. Well, they had a game seven. - Yeah. - A hundred percent. - Four years ago. - No, it's true, it's true, a little bit different, but it's true. How about this for a different spin-on in Palmer and Ladner? Good rest for the boys tonight. You should be firing on Monday. Game sevens are awesome. Blue in seven. All right, so that's a good way of looking at it. Yeah, the coach mentioned no Thatcher Demko, game seven, doesn't expect him to play. So for those asking-- - Not even a talking point on Monday, yeah. - Well, unless you want to talk to Smith or Schillaz, and I don't know, Landon may have a take on that. You know, we'll get to more of your phone calls, text messages, we'll hear from more from Canucks players after 5-1 loss, and also more takes from Landon Ferraro. I'm sat here shot with Bick Nazar, and this is the Canucks Central Post Game Show, presented by the number five orange. So the game is over it, but he's in night really done. The number five is open. More next on SportsNet 650. - It's Canucks Central with Dan Rachel and Sati Arshah, your destination for everything Canucks. Exclusive interviews, inside info, and even the Post Game Show. Listen four to 6 p.m. weekdays and on demand through your favorite podcast app. - This is the Canucks Central Post Game Show. - Join the discussion on the official home of the Canucks, SportsNet 650, and the SportsNet Radio Network. Now, Souter breaks up a pass. Here's a foot race to the other line. Souter, chased down by Bouchard, couldn't get to the net, an echo and flips it the other way. Here's McDavid left wing. Into the Canucks zone, pushed wide by Myers. McDavid, top of the circle, down low, Hyman with a one-timer. He wired that one off the outside of the post. Now McDavid again to the line for Bouchard. Have you tried? He scores! (crowd cheering) - Evan Bouchard stepped into that one from the point, and the Oilers extend their lead, a crucial goal for them in game six, it's three to one. - 88 mile-per-hour shot by Evan Bouchard, and they go low to high on this one. - It's a huge opportunity for us, for everybody. Like I said, a lot of people would want this. I know it stings because we didn't have a good effort tonight, and they played really well. It tipped their hat, they had a lot of energy, and they played Desper hockey. But saying that, you've got to flush it. And you've got 48 hours to get yourself ready for a huge game that not many players are playing in this type of atmosphere. There's a lot of players, teams looking, gonna be watching that game, right? So, I mean, I think we play the game as players is to be on that stage. Somebody wants to play like you want to be a hero on what do you play Monday? That's what I think. - That is Canucks head coach Rick Tockett after a five-one loss play like you want to be a hero on Monday, game seven coming up on Monday. 6 p.m. Puck drop from Rodgers, Arena, Canucks, and Oilers. What a first round series this has been. This is the first game where it was lopsided. Edmonton had the five-one victory here, and we'll see how the Canucks bounce back on Monday. It is a Canucks central post-game show presented by the number five, Orange, Satyar Shah, Landon Ferraro, and Bick Nazar. We'll get to the foam boards again here in a second, but Bick, what's poppin' on the text inbox? A lot of reaction. - Well, funny that quote there was like, was the game on Monday? Someone texted in, why does Tockett sound so calm and okay with everything? He was so nonchalant. I imagine, Landon, you probably don't want the fiery coach all the time, right? I always use the reference of like the flight crew when there's turbulence. You look at the flight crew, if they're calm, you'll be calm. And your leader here is in the moment being calm. - Exactly, right? - Like, the worst thing that could happen right now is you're sitting in the dressing room as you're doing your cool down and stuff, because a TV will be on and you listen to your coach and he's blowing up, losing his mind and doesn't know what he's gonna do for game seven. Like, the panic that would set in, if that happens, right? Like, he trusts his guys. Like, they've played well far more than they've played poorly this entire season, right? And the thing is, it's a game seven. No, like everyone, every hockey player always talks about and interviews and stuff when he gets to this point of like, you know, I was playing street hockey as a kid. And like, no one was sitting around splitting up teams, saying, okay, we're gonna pretend it's game six of the second round, right? Like, you want game seven. And obviously they would have taken the win tonight and been very happy, but the opportunity that it presents to you and your career as a game seven guy. Like, look at Justin Williams, right? Like, he's gonna be known forever as Mr. Game Seven. Like, that is-- - Like, what's that about guys that could just like, just don't let that bother them or just can rise to that type of occasion? - Like, I feel like it's one of two things. Either the guy is just so beyond confident in his abilities or he's just so blind to the situation that he's in. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing. Like, I wish I could, like, I was an overthinker in everything that I did. - Right. - And some of those guys, they just look at it and they're like, oh, like, where I'm thinking like, okay, I don't want to mess up. Like, I don't want to be that guy, you know, try and make a play here and there. And Williams is sitting there like, man, it would be probably pretty cool if I could score a couple of games seven, right? Like, it's just a completely different mind switch on it. - More tax here, $6.50, $6.50. A lot coming in about Queen Hughes. We've seen it sparingly through these playoffs, but now a fair deal coming in tonight. Dylan saying Hughes looks invisible out there, Bouchard has outplayed him so far. This one says, "Quins look pretty average. "Play-off tempo doesn't allow for his slow style of playing. "He has no physicality at all. "He's been totally nullified. "I don't know if the slow style is necessarily Quinn's speed." But nevertheless, a lot of texts coming in about just how he played. And the point of reference, I think, that they paired together really well is the power play. And Quinn handles the puck so much, obviously, on the power play. Just trying to bring up the puck possession time tonight. He had the puck two minutes and 40 seconds. And we're talking about a very ineffective power play today. - Yeah, it wasn't effective. It just didn't generate nearly enough. And as far as Quinn goes, Evan Bouchard has had a really good series. The only misstep he had was the turnover, which led to the Fieldage's epigold last game. And it was Oman pressuring him and forcing the turnover. He's come through in a big way. You kinda need Quinn to start matching that here in game seven. - Yeah, and the part of his game that I've been waiting to see again is how well he moves across the blue line, right? And that also brings in the rest of the ice because he's such a good skater in the way that he can separate himself with just a little bit of an opening up his hips and pushing by someone or just that tight turn going back. Like, when I first started watching Quinn, he was the part that made me get so excited to watch, was he'd get the puck on the blue line. And then before you know it, he's kinda down at the top of the circle. Then he's back to his spun and he's back out to the top. Like, he's all over the place. And it just looks like a guy that's so confident with the puck on his tape. And now, not that he's not confident, but it's almost like he's standing around looking for the next play instead of just making it happen, which he has the ability to do. - Well, during the Nashville series, it felt like the weak side winger would cut off like half the ice for Quinn in that play where they always cross up with the chronic, just never seemed to be there. And in this series, he had the play where he crept down the wall and he fed it, kinda hooked it up top to Brock Besser. And they go, "All right, like, that's you moving," all of a sudden, that's you exploring spaces and drawing, he drew two guys with them. And he hits Brock and Brock hits that goal, goes off Darnell Nurse's foot. And he think, "Okay, there you go." Like, that's you being yourself and expressing how you play the game. And there has been enough of that. - Yeah, and I think that goes back to what we were talking about in one of the inhibitions in the fact of, like, you need to have movement on the power play. It can't be so stagnant that everyone's kinda moving around, and you're just passing it around the outside. Like, they're NHL penalty killers, they're not gonna let anything through if it's just moving around. But if you have guys, like you just mentioned, diving through, move the puck, dive through, try and see if you can get a little pick on someone. Open up a little bit of a lane that wasn't there for split second. Maybe now that seem for a Pederson one-timers there. But unless you're doing that work, it's not gonna open anything up. - Yeah, absolutely. And we'll see if they can start making some of those adjustments for game seven on Monday. We'll get to more of your text messages as the show goes on here, but let's hit the phone boards as well. 604-280-0650 or toll free, 1-888-275-0650. And let's go to Quotlam, where we have Gord on the line. Gord, thanks for calling in. Now, what are your thoughts here tonight? - Hey guys, let me make it really quick. I think you guys talked about it quite a bit. The power play, we talked about them just standing around. Why not just have Quinn Hughes get on his bicycle and just cycle around the whole offensive zone, which he can do. And if they cut him off, you know, you've got an extra man, somebody is open somewhere. Just do that at least, because standing around and passing, I don't know what they think in their heads is going to happen. Like if somebody going to have a seizure or something in Edmonton and all of something opens up, like it just doesn't make sense. They could put four fire hydrants out there and it wouldn't make a difference. And one other thing is Zadon's penalty, I think it was a high stick. You know, we brought his arm over a person's head and someone else did that too in the middle of our defensive zone and got a high sticking penalty. I actually forgot who it was. My point is it's a player in their entire career never ever has a reason to raise their arm in any situation over another player's head. That's such a energy-wasting move. You're better off. Keep your hands down. Keep your stick down. Your body posture. First of all, it's a lower energy move. Your body posture is tighter. Whatever you're going to do, you're in a stronger body position. Like no hockey player ever, ever has a reason in any situation to lift their hand over another player's head. - Hey, go ahead. - Hi guys there, thanks for the phone call. Now we have a former National Hockey League player here with us. So your reaction to that, the high stick. Now Hyman grabs a stick too. It's a smart play by him, by Joshua, but your take on that, that you should never have your hand in your stick high like that. - Well, first off I would say Zadorov is pretty tall. - Yes. - So, you know, if it's-- - Just quickly, that one was called holding. - Right. - It could have been called roughing. I think high sticking was like the last thing that I'm going to get called. - Right, I was thinking of the Joshua one on high, but that was the Zadorov one, yes. - But like, if it's me going into it who's, I'll say six feet, it's very different, right? Like you're trying to get a hand down the other person so you can try and get body position, but in Zadorov's case, he is shoulder and head taller than the other person. Like that is just very bad luck. I would say to go back to your point on the power play though, of, you know, Quinn just starting to move around. And like I actually don't mind that, but the part from last game that I love to see which wasn't utilized tonight really at all was using the bumper in the middle, right? Like if you have Quinn starting to move around and they're chucking it into the middle, the Lynn home who's releasing it to someone else, like that's how you get movement and pace. Because no matter how fast you are, the puck's always going to move faster than you, right? So you need ways to get the puck moving around to where, at least the PK has to at least imagine there's going to be another play. - Right. - Not just around the horn and kind of at the end. - Well, if they don't sense the threat, then how much are they going to move off their spot? - Not at all, because as if I'm PKing and I'm standing, especially as the middle guy. So you're now, you're kind of in that T intersection. So you're in, you know, the top D's lane, if he gets the shot and you're blocking the seam, pass across, if they're holding it and just kind of standing there, I can stay out for two minutes. Like I don't have to do anything. I'm not taking a step anywhere, but if they're using Lynn home or popping it to the middle, I'm the middle guy, well, now I need to go pressure them. Even though that's only probably two steps or one with a stick. Like it's moving and on top of it. Like I don't think, I don't think people fully realize when you're tired and trying to make a decision, how hard that really is, right? So like if you're not tired, you're going to make the right choice. But if you get out of running around a little bit, maybe I'm an extra half foot. Each time that you move it into Lynn home, I'm moving three, four inches each time. And now that seems wide open. - There were just moments too with the power play. Like three guys were near the blue line. And you're talking about activating the bumper all of a sudden. Well, everything's in front of you too as a PK or in that scenario, at least three guys are. And if you're trying to get out number, well, we got four covering two down low. It's just, unless you're drawing those guys out and playing two on two low, it's tough. - Well, on the other side of that too is while they're holding it up high, like that it's allowing the PK to fully reset. - Yeah. - Right? Like if there was movement and guys got running out of spots because they were trying to go pressure on the wall, well, now everything's just, everyone's had another five seconds and just fully reset, take a breath, look around, find everyone. Like there's no panic in the PK at that point. - Right. - Like you have to put them on their heels a bit to where, okay, like I need to get to the bumper guard here, but also like I'm worried about the backside. Like you have multiple thoughts going through your head. That's not the case tonight. They need to find a way to get that back in for game seven. - Yeah, absolutely do. And that's a great breakdown there, Landon. Keep your thoughts coming into our text inbox. Let's go back to the phone boards and let's go to Kelowna where we have Carlos on the line. Carlos, thanks for calling in. What do you have for us tonight? - Well, I don't know. I just like, I thought that Vancouver, they were really, it's kind of predictable the way they like to go wide and deep and then pass it across, hope for a tip. I just want to see more of them going through the net, just more bodies in front of that, looking for like that greasy goal, like about something. And it just felt like they didn't really have that tonight. And it seems to me like it's an ongoing thing throughout these playoffs. Just, I just want to see them get more bodies to the net. - Yeah, it's not a bad thought. Hey, Carlos, thanks for the phone call. And Ian on the text inbox says, "Who's our net front star?" Nobody is what the text says. I'm not sure if they have a guy that right now you feel comfortable about net front that's consistently getting to that spot. And I think after game five where they had moved everyone around a little bit and ends up being JT Miller or net front. Like, think back to Van Reamsdike. When he first started doing that, he's standing on the goal line. He's a lefty and it comes down. He does that spin move back to the net, right? Like no one had really done that before. Like JT Miller's an absolute beast. Like he is so strong and heavy on his feet. And when he was doing plays like that last game, like it opened up a lot more because they actually had, like we've been saying, like it gave the PK another thing to think about, right? So I think you kind of found them. And to be honest, like, do you not like Besser in that shooting spot anyway? Like he's a little more one tracked bind. He's not gonna be looking for the extra pass. Like he's got a very good shot and he wants to use it. - Yeah. - Let's let him use it. - 100%. You know, you're absolutely right. We're getting too close to the break here. Landed, we have about 96 seconds left, but thanks so much for stepping in tonight, man. This was a lot of fun. You did a fantastic job breaking the game down and your mission and post game. You're a natural for this. We've been really happy having you on Canucks Central throughout the playoffs. We look forward to continuing that. But man, this is terrific tonight and I thank you. - Thanks a lot. I got one more thing though. And I've just been, I've been thinking about it since talk had been talking after the game there. If everyone just did his pregame meal of the spaghetti thing that came out. - Oh my goodness. - I think we're set, right? - I think that would have given them all they needed, right? Like I got so fired up watching that. I'm like, you know what? I can be a professional chef too, just like that. - That's all it takes. - It's just microwaved some sauce. It's as easy as that. - Break the past, I mean, you know, breaking the past. I don't know. Reach was really upset about that. - That hurt a little bit. Like I don't have a ton of Italian in me, but man, that one hurt a little bit. - Enough to be offended by that part. - Enough to be for that. Yeah. But then, and quickly, just like 15 seconds or less, game seven, what do you expect? - I expect a Canucks team that's gonna come out and be very excited in a building that has been just dying for this opportunity to show their support. And I'm looking forward to being in there and watching the team get after it. - Yeah, I can't wait for Atlanta. Great stuff here tonight. Look forward to chatting with you very soon. It's sat and big. We'll be back on the other side. More of your reaction from the text-in-box to phone boards. And we'll hear more from Canucks players plus Ian McIntyre as a Canucks central post-game show rolls on presented by the number five orange, a Vancouver legend. They've got sports too. More next on SportsNet 650. - Hey, it's Big Nizar. Have your say and join me on The People's Show with big takes and even bigger bets. - Weekdays three to four on SportsNet 650 or wherever you get your podcasts. - This is where you talk Canucks. You're listening to the Canucks central post-game show on the official home of the Canucks. SportsNet 650 and the SportsNet Radio Network. - Ian Cole near corner. Plays it up the wall. Hoglander to center flips it to the Edmonton line. 10 seconds left, Koolak back to it in his own zone. It's absolute bedlam at Rogers Place. And the reason why the Edmonton Oilers have forced game seven against the Vancouver Canucks with a decisive five-one victory on home ice. And it'll be winner take all on Monday night at Rogers Arena in Vancouver. - It was a desperation game, a do-or-die situation for Edmonton where they needed their stars to pick up the slack. And Carter McDavid, Leon Dreyestaddle had a roll and five of the goals. Each one of those players had a point on at least one of the goals. And that's what happens where you've got Edmonton and their big dogs stepping up. They were playing a desperate game in Vancouver now. It's gonna go back home and it's for all the marbles. You gotta match that desperation. You're gonna have home ice. You're gonna have the fans behind you. But this is gonna be it. One game, winner take all. - Game seven, here we come. On Monday, Canucks and Oilers. Second round matchup, the winner moves on to face the Edmonton Oilers. I mean, sorry, I'm facing Dallas stars. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Am I reading the ESPN bracket that says Edmonton playing Dallas in the second round? Is this what's going on? What is ESPN doing here? This is bad juju by ESPN. What is happening here? - We have gotten all your text messages about it. Not everyone's got to send it in, right? Every text is the link to the ESPN playoff bracket page. But yeah, they're already a step ahead. On top of picking 23 and 24 of Oilers picks. They've already done this. - Look at them getting ahead of themselves. - Bulletin board material from the four letter network. - Oh man, that's not good. That's bad juju. You are listening to the Canucks under post game show presented by the number five, Orange Satier Shah with Bik Nizar. Keep your thoughts coming into our text inbox. You can also grab a phone line, 604-280-0650. Dunbar Lumber text inbox, 656-50. But on that, somebody also texted in and said, I thought it was fishy that before the game, they released the start time for game number seven for 6 p.m. on Monday and said it was fishy. Now, given what we saw unfold on the ice, I don't think there was anything that happened in the game that led you to believe the officials where the NHL was giving it to Edmonton. If anything, the Canucks seeded way to Edmonton a lot more than anything the NHL did in tonight's game and you had a five-on-three. - The Canucks had a five-on-three with a chance to get back into the game. - Edmonton got scored twice, you tie it up. - Edmonton got their five-on-three. Canucks killed it off. Canucks got their chance at it. So it wasn't one of those games where the officials were against the Canucks not giving them any pathways to get back into this. They gave them a huge pathway at the end of the second period but they weren't able to capitalize and now we are heading to a game seven on Monday. Now before we go to the text-then-box, Bick, what else is happening, go to the phone boards, what's happening on the text-then-box. - You got there eventually. - Can we dress Sergey Ganchar for game seven to run the power play, 650, 650? Jokes were 60, we take them. - Yes, we take the jokes. - Actually, I'm not sure if that's a joke, to be honest. - Might be serious. - Brandon Vancouver, that felt like an emotional letdown after game five, more Hughes text as well. Jack and Poco play like that. Monday will be the quick worst game ever of the playoffs. Especially Hughes, that's Jack in Poco. And this one here, Andy from Langley, can't analyze this game, it's one game for all the marbles, can't win a game with some 20 shots against a team like Edmonton, we have a show up on Monday or we don't show up and we lose. Canucks are a deeper team who can win if they show up. Well, there'll be no reason to not show up on game seven. - Yes. - I mean, not that there shouldn't be reason to not show up for a game six, but if you don't put in a shift on a game seven, big problems. - A hundred percent. - Big problems. - No, that is a big problem. - Especially, it's very much a clarity moment when we're talking about roster construction and all these things and look, there's a lot of UFA's, a lot of RFA's and all these things. You don't put in an effort on game seven, that's a signal, man. Look, I can even like win, lose all these things. Like you can understand wins and losses, but effort in a game seven, that better be there. - Yeah, a hundred percent, a hundred percent. It has to be there, fully has to be there. And that's something that this team can't, you can't go quietly into the night. And the Canucks have done the good job of that so far this season, you know, and tonight was a bit of a letdown spot. And honestly, I know people have mentioned the Canucks were bad for the full 60. I thought they were fine in the first. I know the coach mentioned that too. I didn't have too many qualms with how the first period went outside of the Canucks not taking advantage of two power play opportunities. Dry settle and make David take penalties early. Canucks don't do anything on the power play, but Edmonton didn't generate a ton. They had a goal, the Canucks got one, they scored one late, which was goalie interference on she-lobs, that was taken off the board. And it was pretty even, the Canucks actually were carrying the scoring chance differential in their favor in the first period. - It was four, three, right? - Yeah, it was very tight, but it was very even. There was nothing I looked at. I didn't look at the first thing, man, the Canucks don't have it tonight. They looked like, if anything, the Edmonton couldn't get a lot of juice going, the crowd seemed nervous, couldn't really get into the game a ton. They were nervous to begin the second. I felt like in the first, the Canucks kind of had Edmonton where they wanted them to be. - Yeah. - But then they were never able to build on that. - Eight total shots in that period of four, four. - You go take that on the road, on game six, one-one after the first. - That was a strong road period to open up that game. - And then it kind of just went downhill from that point on. And as soon as Edmonton turned it up and got a two-one goal and a three-one goal, it was the Canucks fully being on their heels the rest of the way. Yeah, they pushed back here and there a little bit at times in the game, but at no point did you feel like they were gonna get back into this. You felt like if they can get a goal, they can get back into it, but that goal never felt like it was imminent. - No, and the moment that arose was the power play to go get it and just, it looked harmless at best. - Absolutely. All right, we'll get to more of your text messages in a second, but let's go to the phone board, 604-280-0650, your toll free, 1-888-275-0650. Let's go to Fort Wayne, Indiana, where we have Jason on the line. Jason, thanks for calling in. What are your thoughts here tonight, buddy? - Well, guys, I wanted to start and say, I haven't forgotten you. I haven't been around in a couple of years, but I started with you guys in the bubble and top of the toast, you and it can too. - Yeah, I love it. - And, you know, tonight, obviously we're not putting butter and cinnamon and all that on it, because that was not a good game. We kind of burned it, didn't we? But, you know, the deal is people talked about the power play and, you know, if there's a reason that even in the lower levels, they don't want you just standing around when you're on the power play. It's because, it's because even minor league teams are good enough to kill it off. I mean, I'm blind, but even I could kill it if you just stood around and passed it back and forth. So, but in any event, you know, we've got the game seven coming. I'll be listening on Monday, Colorado's out. Dallas doesn't start for a bit. So, you know, it should be a good time. You know, when being a Fort Wayne fan, goalie interference is something I don't like to talk about. We hate it here, but the refs have done a good job of emphatically calling it and just making sure they review it. And I think they've done a really good job of being fair about, you know, doing their reviews and giving the correct call. So, I'm happy for that, but you guys go out there and, you know, do the job on Monday. I'll be listening and I love what Brennan and his partner do on the call. It's really great stuff. So, I'll be listening and we'll get it going. - Hey, Jason, thanks as always, man. Appreciate your thoughts. And hopefully the Canucks keep it going here. Game seven on Monday. - We're huge in Indiana. - Yeah, man. Listen to that. For those who don't know, top of the toast, they can remember members, but back in the bubble playoffs, we had Jana Kansen on and he mentioned top of the toast a couple of times during the bubble playoff run. So, it's a nice shout there from Jason and Indiana calling in. And, you know, I would say, like, I know people have qualms of officiating and certainly talk about officiating throughout the playoffs and the series. But tonight, like, I don't have a ton of stuff that I had a problem with, you know what I mean? Like the high stick, Hyman grabs Zadorov's hand and high sticks himself kind of, but in real time, it's one of those like heart, you know, it's a high stick to the face, you know what I mean? - The only one I had an issue with was the Garland one. - Yeah, the Garland one. I mean, and he does kind of grab him at the head too, but it's a little bit soft. - But yes, he does do it, but it leads to the 5-1-3. - Yeah, but I mean, they killed it off. - It was even, like, I didn't feel like there was a game that, hey, the officials were getting in the way of a good hockey game or anything. - No. - But, you know, the Canucks also had that goal overturned. And I thought it was wise by Edmonton to not challenging 'cause it was clear, golden, or clear. - Yeah, that's, I mean, I'm like in the refs credit for that. It's very obvious. - Well, they made the right call. They made the right call. - Well, that's their job to make the right call. - I'm just saying, hey, we criticize them for not making the right call. Also give credit to her making the right call. - That wasn't a judgment call though. That's an obvious one. - Yeah, I'm just saying they got it right, clean as day. - Coldly interference. - Yeah, you say that, but then how many times have you been left bewildered by decisions made by the National Hockey League? Look at the game. It wasn't a Florida, not too long ago. And we all thought that was gonna be coldly interference than it was. What about the game between Colorado and Dallas the other night? The Marchman one, which, I mean, who knows? I'm just saying. I'm just saying. - Fine. - I'm just saying. Anyways, we'll get to more of your thoughts on the foam boards coming up in a second. Sabre's Rob says, "Dress, talk it as well." If you use Pedersen pods, she allows better learning what it takes to win in the playoffs. Priceless, and that's it. And this one says, "Games have altered the entire series." Just saying. - Alternated. - Alternated, yeah. It's altered, alternated. Okay, alternated. - Yeah, win loss, win loss, win loss, win loss. - Yeah. - Will that continue? Game seven. - Fans, that way. - Yeah, all right, Canucks fans. - Big party. - Certainly hoping so. I mean, hey, listen, I like nothing better. Believe me, I like nothing better. All right, we'll get to more of your thoughts on the text unboxing up in a second. But let's continue on the foam boards and let's go to New West where we have Sean on the line. Sean, thanks for calling in. What are your thoughts here tonight? - You want not much stuff in the game tonight in the game? It is what it is. They lost five-one and weren't good enough tonight. But having said that, I'm still very confident. They're going to get the job done Monday night. I'm actually very, very confident. I don't think Stuart Skinner, you know, we didn't really test them tonight, right? So didn't make it like, you know, make a heart on them tonight. So I think going into game seven at home, I mean, this team, no one predicted them to do anything. Being in the season, no one predicted them to do much. After 10 game mark, 20 game mark, 30 game mark, team, you know, media and other teams fans expected them to fall off a cliff and that never happened. And then when that's got hurt, media have thought that they would fall off a cliff and lose to Nashville and that, that didn't happen. And then the other series, everyone's picking the only four or five games. Now it's at game seven. So I'm actually would be very shocked if we lose on Monday night. I think that the Canucks are due for like a two, three goal win. I think that's what's going to happen. And I guarantee that. And that's what we got to say. - I love it. - Crawling the show. - Crawling the guarantee. - Guaranteeing as the top of the phone. Confidence with Sean on New West, I love it. All right, let's continue on the phone words. Let's go to Graham Prairie, where we have Travis on the line. Travis buddy, what do you have for us tonight, man? - Hey guys, so something you might find interesting. - Ah, man. - That's a more sport. When it comes to Canucks and Lions in the playoffs, but tonight I'm actually disciplined. A little bit of disbelief, because I don't think the Oilers were five to one better. I think the Canucks were five to one worse, if that makes sense to you. But here's a funny thing. I watched the game with my sweetheart and she knows nothing about hockey. She's a motocross athlete. But I gave her a rundown on the game, the repercussions of winning this game and skinner being shaking stuff. So she was polite watching with me. She lasted until the third period, about three minutes before the fifth goal was scored. And then slightly frustrated, she left thing. No, they're not going to win. So I welcomed her to conectation. So here's the non hockey, non Canucks fan observation. She was asking me, why are they not skating fast like the Oilers? And why do they just stand there and pass, pass, pass, where the Oilers power play, they pass, shoot, shoot, shoot. They look disinterested in no urgency, especially on the power play. And it works for the Cydines, but they had twin powers, that's my little bit. But Jason from Edmonton, you can. - All right, his phone is, sorry Travis, phone broke up a couple of times. - He competed, he competed hard. - He recovered really well, but then the third time, he just couldn't keep it going. - Although I like the line. - But you know what, it technically doesn't make sense. But I understood what he ran with. It wasn't a five one win, it was a five one win. - 100%. And we kind of talked about that a bit earlier too, on the post game show with Landon, that it's not like that Edmonton was bad. Of course, they were better than Vancouver. It's not like McDavid and Drycidal, to me though, were spectacular. This wasn't like the best performance I've seen. - They were good, they were productive. They did enough to win the game. - But the Canucks provided the opportunity for them to take advantage. - I thought Landon nailed it though. He said, "Can I just ask that of them though?" They didn't. And I think that's part of the issue here, right? - The news goal is the one that really stands out for me is 'cause it's a play in the neutral zone. And nobody picks up, of all people, Conor McDavid, and he generates a little bit of speed, and it looks so similar to the Hymen goal, earlier on in the series, where he got all the space down the flank, and you can see Myers pointing to Susie, like, "Go, go, go, go!" And Myers is the one that ends up trying to close him down a little bit, but he's too far away, and Susie never picks up the stick of Newton Hoffman's on a little dangerous pass right at the top of the crease, and there's your goal, but it just looked like moments like that through the course of the evening. - No, you're absolutely right. And the Canucks can be a lot better than they were. Like, a lot better. I thought they could be better than what they showed in game five. One of the things I was talking about on the pregame show would reach was, yes, Edmonton's going to have a better performance, but what's to say the Canucks can't play better than how they played in game five. - Oh, absolutely. - You know what I mean? And we haven't seen that. We didn't see that here tonight. They need to bring it though for game number seven. Let's continue on the foam boards, and let's go to Pittsburgh, where we have Wade on the line. Wade, thanks for calling in. What are your thoughts here tonight? - Hey guys, thanks for taking my call. Really appreciate it. I just want to say, like, obviously tonight just stopped. I mean, that was just, I can't think of a single thing that went well, except for maybe the penalty kill, but you throw out the other six games of the series. It's a one game. We're at home. Our crowd's going to be juiced. I mean, I don't know how you cannot like our chances in this one. We bounced back all year. Talk, it was so measured. He was so calm in his press conference. That's got to get the players feeling really good. The crowd's going to be amped up. I don't know. Maybe I'm crazy, but I've got a good feeling about this one. And also, Penguin fans around here, they are all pulling for the Canucks because of all the connections between the two teams. So, let's go Canucks. Let's take it home. Let's beat these guys. - Hey, I love it. Wade, thanks for the phone call. Pittsburgh, he's a Canucks fan, but also Penguins fans behind the Canucks and Pittsburgh. That's fantastic stuff. I love the confidence though. You know what? And listen, I'm not saying you shouldn't be upset. You're allowed to have the visceral reaction after a tough loss, right? And it's the emotional rollercoaster being in the playoffs. Like, you felt like you were on top of the world the other night. And tonight you feel like, oh, what if they don't get this done, right? You have that existential dread, all of a sudden rushing over you. But I think there are plenty of reasons to be optimistic and believing your team and I love that approach by Wade. - Yeah, look, this is fun. I know it's hard to hear tonight. - It's pressure, man. It's stressful, but it's fun. - Two games, sevens rule. - Dude, it's playoffs, sevens are- - It's playoffs. - A blast. - Canucks are in a game seven to be able to move on to the Western Conference final. - Not sound like Kurt Russell there in Miracol, like, great moments are born from great opportunity, right? This is that, man. - 100%. - It's fun. - 100%. - I understand that people like embrace it. It feels good about it. We'll see what happens. You might be bummed out Monday night, but you might be exuberant on Monday night. - Yeah, 100%. This one here says, "With our home fans, "the last change in the Canucks have game seven all day. "Talks calls the shots, Christian in new West." And this one here says, "Last September, "the bar was set first in our division, "game seven, second round at home. "For a division final, it would have blown me away. "All of this has been awesome. "Lots of some of the best hockey I've watched "in 30 plus years texting in." So, yeah, you can be optimistic and positive about the outlook as well. - You're not out. - No, exactly. All right, let's continue on the phone boards. Let's go to Victoria, where we have Nathaniel on the line. Nathaniel, thanks for calling in. What are your thoughts here tonight? - Gentlemen, what an evening. Definitely not the way I wanted it to go. Definitely got chewed out by a few other fans in the way home from the bar, but honestly, that's the way playoff hockey goes. - Yeah. - You know, back and forth. You have wins, you have losses. I think CWAs had a really tough game today. Obviously, this was a game where Edmonton had everything on the line, and they needed the win. And the players were willing to do whatever it took. And they're fans as well. A lot of emotions running through my feelings right now, you know, it's hard to kind of figure out the words, what to say here, but, you know, I'm just hoping for a huge bounce back. And I've seen this team with the bounce back, and this is something that I've heard a lot of callers already talk about. And I'm just expecting a big bounce back for this game seven. I mean, this is what I like to think of this way. But the whole Amazon prime show going on is filming Quinn. I like to think this is just the meat of the story. - There you go. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - It's the drama of the story. You need the few losses, the bad losses. So you get that cool post-game shots and stuff like that. But, you know, boys, I'm looking forward to game seven, and hopefully it comes in a Canucks victory. - Hey, I love it. Hey, Nathaniel, thanks for the phone call. It goes into hostile territory as well, repping this team. I love that. That's fantastic. And yeah, I get it. Why not feel good about it? - It's huge. - Why not take the positive outlook, right? - It's huge. - And we'll get to more of some of the text messages coming in here. This one here says from Nagib. First of all, absolutely love your show. Everyone keeps talking about how amazing McDavid is and make it seem like the orlers are unbeatable. What happened a few years ago when they got swept by Colorado when they played Vegas? They're the same team. They didn't show up. Where was that extra gear? I'm sure the Canucks will come back. They are a bounce-back team. Now, you're into a game seven and I think, I appreciate the text message for sure. Emmett, like-- - I thought he was gonna say everyone keeps talking about how amazing you guys are and I was like McDavid. I was like, yeah, they're all right. - They're okay. I mean, we're amazing. They're okay. But I mean, it's one of those things like, I'm not counting out Edmonton's effort or like, you have to play your best hockey. Like you have to play, you have to go out there on Monday and play your best game of the playoffs to win this. - So Ben yesterday was, you know, me and Ben were doing the show yesterday on The People's Show where we're just literally discussing this about if you play your A game, you have a puncher's chance in any game, in any single game. Now, Ben was at the point like he thought today came to fruition, Ben. He was very much like, I think the Oilers are gonna trounse the Canucks in game six. - Called it. - Called it. But-- - And I saw people got mad at you on the top of the box. - I was getting roasted. - People were mad at you. - People were mad. People were mad. - Yeah. - But the point we were kind of getting into, it's like, I don't think you can live in a world. I know there's some like fear, but I don't think there's a world that exists where it's like, well, if the Oilers play their best game and the Canucks play their best game, Oilers gonna win every single time. I think that's like, series preview talk happening. You're in game seven. Everything has been disproved of, oh, can the Canucks hang with them? If they play their best game, they're in it. Now, there's not guarantee a win, but the fact that they played game five and they have the proof of concept of we can get to that level. If you play like that, you can compete against anybody in the NHL. It's just about sustainability and consistency at that stage. - 100%. - But if you can do it, you're in it. And that's the thing where we're talking about effort and all these things. That's what you have to get to. That desperation that Rick Taka was talking about in his post game, where like it's short shifts, be desperate, chances to do all these things. Like block shot, win battles, like he's looking for big moments from guys. - I think if the Canucks play close to their best game, they're gonna win. So I picked the Canucks to win this in seven games. So I'm very comfortable in this situation in terms of like how what I thought was gonna happen and where we're are. I was hoping they would finish it off tonight, of course, 'cause I mean, who wouldn't love to have an easier day on Monday, right? It's set up on the weekend? - Well set up, we'd be working regardless, but we'd be celebrating on Monday, looking ahead to the Western Conference final, which would have begun on Tuesday, if the Canucks would have finished it today. But yeah, we have a game seven to talk about. And that is completely fine. But I do think if the Canucks, if they get Patterson to play like he did in game five, and that Lindholm line makes a difference, you get a bit more from Garland, Blueger and Joshua and JT and Besser do their thing. But I prefer, I like those three lines, plus whatever you get from the fourth line, compared to what Edmonton can do. Like I like that. I'll take the Canucks in that matchup, with their defense, with their goal tending. And I thought, you know, one of the callers mentioned, he thought she loves struggled tonight. It's one of those games where, - I think it's just the Bouchard goal. - It's the Bouchard goal. And it's also, yeah, it's probably the Bouchard goal more than anything that kind of goes through. - Like maybe the Hyman goal. - But it's also like he's in the slot, like he's like, what, 12 feet away from the goal. - And he just made a great save on Hyman too, deflecting it into the corner, or to the wall. But yeah, the thing is, it's like you don't really have recourse for any other option. Demco, not available, as announced by Rick Talkett. He's not playing. You not go back to Casey Dismett. - No, I know people were asking about that. I mean, I just can't see it happening. - No, that he's been sitting out this entire series, and now you go to game seven. - You arrive or die with Arter Shiloh. - They've already made their bet. - Yeah. - That's what they've done already. Steve Owen-Sanich is not convinced. He said, "Sath keeps trying to flush game six, "but he needs a bigger plunger to convince Canucks Nation." I can't convince people of anything. I give my opinion on things, and that's what I provide. If that convinces you, great, if not, there's nothing I can do about that. But, again, I feel decent about that. - Is that decent about the Canucks chances? - I think if the Canucks play a lot better than they did tonight, they still have a very good chance. It never seems as bad as things are. It never seems as good as things are either. I think in the playoffs, that's why the coaches is so adamant on the notion of you can't get too high, you can't get too low. That's a fan. It doesn't matter, however you take things. It's not gonna affect what happens on the ice, but I think it's a lesson in terms of, it's easy to get super high. You think everything's gonna go your way, but when it gets low, you think like you're done and you're cooked, and that's kinda where you have to manage game to game here, especially in a back and forth series between the Canucks and the Oilers here so far in the second round. Let's continue on the foam boards. Let's go to Surrey, where we have our friend, Jeffro on the line. Jeffro, thanks for calling in. Now, what are your thoughts here tonight? - Hey, awesome. You guys are enjoying this or what? - Yeah, man, it's playoffs, man. - It's fun, right? You know, I'm gonna say so I wanna say some keys. Like, for game seven, I think one thing we gotta do, we need to get the first goal. Like, five out of six games here, they've gotten the first goal, so like, let's do that, right? The other thing, I don't know, either they're neutralizing the David, like, I know he got too assessed, but he wasn't as dangerous as they usually look, so either like, he's injured, or they're neutralizing them a bit, but, you know, I do just gotta keep on them. The other thing I'll say is, I'll take their line, our lineup, our lineup, over theirs for game seven. I think it's good, you know, and one thing I'll say, too, is back when they played St. Louis, they got blown out, and God bless Gino Ojek, ripped around there, and like, he put some fear in their lineup. I think kind of Zadora did that same thing tonight, where he was like jumping on them, and getting on them, and showing some fear, need to show like, we're ready for game seven, and I like our boys. We're gonna get it done. - I love it. Hey, Jeff, for thanks for the phone call, man. Jeff, for with enthusiasm, has some confidence in his team, believing they can get it done here tonight, on Monday, game seven, Canucks, and Edmonton Oilers. Puck drop coming up just after 6 p.m. on Monday. It's been set already. All right, let's take one more phone call before we hit the break, and then we'll get to more reaction on the other side, and for those wondering, we're going for another segment after this. - So, yeah, people are texting in, are you guys going to midnight? - We are not, but Josh Elliott Wolf, with the post-game show. - Yeah, and he's coming on for a couple of hours, after we are done. So, we have one segment to go after this, but you can still hang on. We will be plenty of Canucks talk coming up. IMAX coming up next as well. That's the next segment. But before we get out here, let's go to Slater in Mission. Slater, thanks for calling in. What are your thoughts here tonight? - Hey, guys. First time caller, or long time listener. Rookie lap, let's go. (laughing) - Say, you know, they had the chance to close out of the international game five. Didn't do it. Didn't have a, didn't go up three-one on the Oilers. Didn't close out tonight. And, you know, they just don't play desperate enough, and don't get a lot of pucks towards the net. Most nights, you know, it's three shots in the first tonight, another, what, five or six in the second. I got this team played as for hockey. All right, you guys take over here. - Hey, thanks for the phone calls later. Rookie lap from Mission. Always welcome to call back in here on the post-game show. I mean, they've played with some desperation, but they didn't have that tonight. Now, one thing I wonder about, and I've been thinking about this too, and it's something that I was thinking about for game four as well, and I know we touched, touched on it a little bit, are the Canucks sometimes so focused on being even keeled that sometimes you don't get to that desperation level, 'cause you're trying to maintain, you compose, like, there's a, you have to harness your anxiety, right? - Yeah, I mean, they've played really desperate two days ago. - No, they did 100%, and I think for tonight, obviously that wasn't there, right? And it wasn't really there for game four, and hasn't been consistent throughout the series. It's hard to have a single game, for sure. - We had a text earlier come in and be like, do fans expect them to go 16 and O? - Well, yeah, there's a little bit of expectation. It's like, we're in a game tonight. That's the expectation. I would say it's very difficult, man. It's really difficult. Teams, to go to the stage of the Cup finally, yeah, you might lose seven, eight games through that whole stretch. It sounds like a lot, but losses happen. - They do, through these playoffs. - I know, it's really tough to maintain that standard. - For sure, Don and Pintikton asks, for the psychological after effect, what is worse? Losing two one or losing five one, and how will that affect game number seven? What you keep hearing in the playoffs is one game doesn't lead to another game. Like the coach even talked about that, how you can play your best game one day and then not have the next game. That's kind of in the story of the series so far, and we had Landon Ferraro on earlier, and he said, he's like, no, it doesn't really matter. Like, you feel good about it tonight. You feel good about it tomorrow, maybe. But once the game begins, it's a whole new entity, and we've talked about it tomorrow, right? - Yeah, and we talked about this a lot too, about the playoffs, it's like every single series is its own entity, and every single game is an entity within that entity. And that's kind of, and it doesn't necessarily feed one way or another here. Obviously, you want to feel better confidence-wise, but you can also look at it and say, hey, would you rather go into a game seven after a big win or a big loss when you're going to be extra desperate and determined? So you could look at it any way you want, but nonetheless, it's game seven. Like, if game seven doesn't get you focused and determined, then you might be in the wrong business here, right? And then also somebody said, well, you guys say that about, you know, game seven, but what about 2011, against the Boston Bruins? Okay, game seven of a cup final, when a team is depleted and injured, and they have nothing left in the tank, a little bit different, right? And Boston got off to our early lead that game, not to rehash 2011. But at this point of a playoff, you got to have juice in a game seven, and I'm sure the Canucks will on Monday. - Can I get to this text here? - Yes. - Since Ben predicted tonight perfectly, what does he call him for game seven? His silence is scaring me. Ben, do we have a Ben Shredama spec here? - Canucks winning game seven. - All right. - There we go. - Now you regained out the marker. - Get them in seven at the beginning of the series. They're going to win game seven. - That's true, you did, you did, yep. - Ben Bastren, all right. He heard it there. Canucks in seven. All right, we'll get to more of your thoughts on the text inbox and more of your phone calls, and more from Ian McIntyre. 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As a Vander Kain and Nikita Zadorov started it off now, fielded Giuseppe Dejarnay, Omon, and Paul Cole's in there in the middle of it, with Coolak as well. Dejarnay has Omon and Paul Cole's in in headlocks right now. Well, a Vander Kain is still lying on the ice with a line's been keeping him away, they've got Zadorov to the Vancouver bench. Tempers continue to flare. At the end of the most lopsided game of the series to this point. - Canucks lose 5-1, we're going to a game seven. All the chips are on the table on Monday between the Canucks and the Oilers to determine who goes to the Western Conference final to face the Dallas stars. And this is the Canucks Central Post game show presented by the number five orange on the home of your Canucks sports net 650. It's sat and bic here on the Canucks Central Post game show keep your thoughts coming into our text inbox 650. And we have a lot of reaction on the text inbox too. People are a bit fired up about what's happening as well in terms of what to expect coming in to the game on Monday and Brandon and Poco has jokes for 60 as well. It says, hope the Canucks at least show up for the post series handshake Brandon and Poco. But I would say they hopefully have a handshake they show up for and they're the victors. I think that would be the best way of looking at it. - Certainly. - I think that way the best way to look at that going down between the Canucks and the Oilers coming up on Monday. - 650, 650, every other game was a one goal game. We fought tooth and nail to get our wins. Now Edmonton steps it up a notch and it's a blow out. Our guys look tired. Oils can taste blood now. It was a good run. Now I need to guard my heart and keep my hopes low. - Well, yeah, I mean, and listen, you gotta do what you gotta do in terms of getting yourself to Monday and not be too stressed out so I get it. But a lot of the same things were being said about Edmonton going into game six here that they're fatigued, they're tired, they're cooked, they're done. All of a sudden, look what happened, right? I would be very careful. - And we had these discussions too on the show throughout the playoffs and it's come up about the Edmonton Oilers' flaws and are they so flawed at seeing all their flaws? I'm like, yeah, we're seeing their flaws but let's not get it twisted. They can still win this series. Yeah, I don't like Edmonton's chances if they get past Vancouver here on Monday to win this Stanley Cup this season. Like I don't like their chances and I'm sure that's a point of frustration that they haven't been as good as they had hoped to be in this series and perhaps was that tell you about their chances, the rest of these playoffs but they certainly have enough to win this round still. And I think you have to be very careful about that when you're looking at this Edmonton team and I think you gotta be careful about everyone looking at a Vancouver as well just 'cause they had a bad game doesn't mean that they're not gonna have it in game seven on Monday. All right, we have iMac coming up in a couple of minutes but let's get to the form boards before we get there and for those waiting on the phone lines, Josh Elia Wolf is on with on our airwaves coming up after the show. So at the top of the hour, he's off for two hours. So hang on to your phone lines. Your text will still get read later on too. So stay on if you still wanna get on air. So let's go to Ladner where we have Jason on the line. Jason, what are your thoughts here tonight? - Hey boys, thanks, Jack Markov. Two things. So first of all, yes, to your point, Canucks did not have their best game. I think that's a positive. Usually when you go out there, you put it all on the line and you lose, never a good luck. Probably Joshua Garland's line was probably the worst of the series or playoffs for that matter. Never seen Garland lose his head like that. Usually he's on the other side of that. So I think, yeah, I think they're probably a little bit tired, you know, coming off that emotional high from the last game. Second thing is behind our bench, it's a lot different than the bubble hockey. I know we keep bringing bubble hockey (laughs) but, you know, think about those games, right? Like it was just like Vegas against Denko, right? And there was no structure. But think about the coaches themselves, right? We got between the three of them coaching and playing, they got six Stanley Cubs. So they've been there before. Like we see talk come out for the after post-game presser. He's a beaut, right? He's up there like, it's like his first day on the job. I love it. And not only is he influencing the players, but I think he's influencing the fan base. And I think, I think, and I hope a lot of the fan base is taking Q and a page out of his book. And I look forward to hearing your thoughts and look forward to game seven. - Hey, thanks for the phone call. That's Jason and Latner. And some good thoughts there from Jason. And in terms of how Edmonton was playing Vancouver as well, like, there are things that obviously, they were trying to focus in on a little bit, but it took them until the second period, until kind of the connection had the long change and they got the goal for them to really explore certain things. So it wasn't like, you know, it's one of those games where I've seen people text in about the game plan as well, but how the Canucks went about this game. Like, again, the first period, if you go back and look at it, the Canucks actually had a slight edge in play. And it was 1-1, it was fair for it to be 1-1 after that. And it was really in the second and the long change played a part into it 'cause there was at least one goal where Corona couldn't get off and that led to the Bouchard goal. - Yeah, the scoring chances in the first period, just the Zalper natural stat trick, they do their high danger chances. It was 3-2 in favor of Vancouver. The expected goals at 5-1-5 were well in favor, 72% for the Canucks in the first period. And then the second period, it was 18%. So you just see the discrepancy of where Eddington started to take over. And so with that long change, and even as Rick Talkin mentioned, the two quick goals, you know, mis-managing the puck and everything kind of unraveling after that, that long change, that shift where it's just, it's a long play for Phillip Rornik to get to that bench and he just never gets there. And now here comes McDavid and they're wheeling around and Hyman gets that opportunity. That's her little slow to get to the rail, that slot area that Rick Talkin likes to have protected. And he actually do his credit. He hustles to get there. - He just doesn't stop there. - He just doesn't stop there. And he makes a nice play to delay Hyman. - But you gotta stop on that. - Man, you gotta battle with that guy there. You gotta make it challenging. And he does the one stick lift and thinks he's gonna get the puck to go up the ice, but it doesn't happen and, you know, Susie, does he do enough on that play to push McDavid up towards the corner of the wall? It's snowballed real fast there for them. - No, I really did. Before we get to IMAX, this text from Ricky Baines from Columbia Academy. I remember Ricky-- - Oh yeah, let's go! - Ricky Baines, baby! - We're out here. - He says, if any, would you make any changes or tweaks? Lakerra Mackie, I don't think Lakerra Mackie is playing in game seven. Do we see some tweaks? Would you be surprised? Depends on health, but would you be surprised we'll pose this to IMAX, too. Would you be surprised to see McDavid back in if he's healthy enough for game seven? - For... - Put Colzen? - Yeah. - That'd be the only one that makes sense to me. I don't think those all mons coming out. - Yeah, we'll see what the head coach says, but Ricky, thanks for the text message, man. Good to hear from you. Let's bring the man in from Edmonton. He was there to watch the Vancouver Canucks lose 5-1 in game six. We're going to a game seven. We call him the triple threat because you watch him on TV, you read him on digital, you're about to hear him on radio. He is Ian McIntyre. (upbeat music) - No, we are not going to see Jonathan Lekarimaki and happily and happily. I'm glad to say, I shouldn't say happily. I'm relieved that Rick Talkett ended the nonsense about the speculation among Thatcher Denko and just said, no, he's not going to be playing because honestly, the only reason this has been the story that it is is because we keep asking Talkett every day about Denko. So his name is always in the news. It would be great if they had them. It would be great if they had the number one goalie, but the number three goalie has not been the problem and we'll see how they do on Monday. But tonight was a disappointment as I said in my question to talk at Post Game. To me, it really looked like a team that was facing elimination versus a team that was not. And that's in no ways an excuse for the way that Canucks played, but I think it's a natural mindset, a natural trap to fall into when half of your team and most of your top players have never been in this situation. You know, when you've never had a game to close out a second round playoff series and go to a conference final. And whether it was in the back of their minds or not, they knew that they had two chances. The problem is they squandered the first chance tonight. It was a chance in title only because they gave themselves no chance with the way they played the final 40 minutes. So I didn't think they were great in the first, but neither was neither were the Oilers. And maybe that was the pressure that they were feeling, but Edmonton just took over the game. And in the end, it wasn't close. The score was indicative how the game went to know. Vancouver has to regroup mentally. Physically, there's not much to teach at this point, right? You either know what you need to do or you don't. And if you don't, you're probably not long for this league. But it's all about the mindset and getting into the frame of mind. I mean, it is an incredible opportunity again, as Tockett noted, post game. It's something that a lot of guys, you only have this a few times in your career. If you're lucky and some, of course, have it more than that. Some guys don't ever get an opportunity to win a game seven on home ice to go to a conference final. So we'll see how they do on the mental side of things. It's been a fantastic series. It would just be a shame if the Canucks don't come out with a much better performance. And I think they will. I'm not making any prediction on an outcome for game seven, but this team is too good to play two games in a row at the end of a series like they just played game six. - Yeah, and again, we've talked about this so many times so at the year, I'm act that like they've, in moments when they've needed to bounce back and find the next hurdle, they've managed to overcome it. But I do think in that same moment as you asked, talking about learning how to deal with this process, is that something you learn in two days? - Yeah, well, I mean, there's gonna be a huge, I think, onus on veteran players, on the Coles, the Myers, I'd say J.T. Miller, but you have to remember, like J.T. Miller's playoff experience, he's been in Vancouver for five years. It was a while ago now, and J.T. Miller was an entirely different player than he is now. And that's a very good thing, like he's a formidable player. So he doesn't, but he wasn't a frontline guy. He didn't have the pressure on him that there's going to be in game seven, but he did have that experience. They've got a few other guys, but honestly, not many, I mean, Zadora, I've seen some playoffs, Susie has seen some playoffs. It's gonna be really important for those veteran guys. And I think really, especially important for this coaching staff, you know, when you look at pocket and Gonshar and Foote and the Siddines, Mikey O's been around forever, been in a lot of situations, really important for them to try to convey what they know without overwhelming these guys who are gonna be experiencing it for the first time. You can't be afraid of the opportunity. And sometimes I think, you know, if they really knew what was coming, maybe it would be worse because it is, there's gonna be immense pressure. It's really the first time. And you could say, I guess you can make the argument. It's really the first time all season that they've had, you know, the pressure where the expectations might surpass what the team is capable of doing. This whole season has been about the Canucks, you know, exceeding what others thought they could do because they led this series 3-2, because they've led this series three times. It might be the first time, even though, you know, it's still gonna be, regardless of the outcome, it's still been an incredible season of growth for this organization and for most of these players. But it might be the first time where they're gonna feel that pressure of expectation that this was their series now. And they've given the oilers equal footing now to take it back, take it away. - Yeah, and one of the things too about tonight's game, it comes down to that energy aspect of things, but the questions around Arthur Shilov's have, haven't really been questions for very long, they've been answered pretty quickly. Tonight wasn't his cleanest performance. What did you see from him tonight? And how important do you think it's gonna be for him to bounce back for game seven? - I just think he has to play the same way 'cause I don't think it was poor tonight. I don't think it was brilliant tonight. I don't think it was poor tonight. He wasn't the issue. And really he hasn't been. And as much as we've talked about Shilov's, you know, a save percentage is 907, which is good, but it's not like they've needed him to steal games. The game six in Nashville was a wonderful performance and an incredible story, you know, going in and shutting out the predators won nothing to get this organization's first. Play-off series win in a long, long time, but they haven't, you know, he hasn't had to steal games. And I just don't think with Stuart Skinner in the other net, I don't think this is gonna be really about Shilov's, the Skinner. Sure, you'd like him to have another, you'd like him to have in game seven against Edminton, the game he had in game six against, against Nashville. But that's not a realistic expectation. I think what the realistic expectation is for him is that he just continues to, for the most part, make the saves he needs to make and give his team an opportunity to win, to not be a detriment, not be a net drag on things. And he certainly has not been that. So which goals did you not like tonight set? I think it's the Bouchard one. Yeah, and I haven't so much that I didn't like. I was more opposed in the question. We've got a lot of little texting in about how, that he was poor. I didn't think it was poor. It's the Bouchard one kind of goes through some bodies, but not a ton there. That's maybe the only one he can quibble with a little bit. Yeah, I mean, he saw it the whole way. Yeah. You know, it's on the inside of the post and in from a guy who's got a rocket. But yes, you're right. That's one that goal is, if they can see, no matter who's shooting it, they should be able to stop it from the blue line. But I really don't think people who are who think that she loves was the problem tonight. I think she'd give their head a shake and try to understand hockey a little bit better. The Canucks had 15 shots on that. Well, that's the thing. Yeah. Their top skaters made critical errors on most of the goals. Look at how soft Peterson was in the neutral zone. Yeah. They're slowed up all the way. Look at the terrible read that he was made on the same goal. Look at the fly-by Brock Besser had on Hyman's goal. Look at how easily Nugent Hopkins got in front of Carson Susie and Carson Susie. I'm not lapping them in as guys at the top of the lineup who you count on to win. But Carson Susie's an experienced excellent defender who's had a terrific series in a defensive role. And that was probably his poorest moment of the series as well. If you don't count getting a one-game suspension for high-sticking McDavid. And then J.T. Miller, who I agree with talking, he's been a monster. But he was pretty poor tonight. Minus 3 was on for key goals against. And although his mistakes weren't as egregious or on an individual basis to say the ones I just mentioned from those other guys, it was his poorest game of the series as well. So when your best players are doing that, if you think your 23-year-old third-string goalie is supposed to save everyone from themselves, to me that's a little bit ridiculous. - I have a listener question for you, I, Mack. This one's from Rob. Does Hughes have to do more? Now, you highlighted the one player there with Holloway. Just in general, with the power play being ineffective, he had the puck tonight for two minutes and 40 seconds. But I'm trying to think of just dynamic Quinn Hughes moments. It just didn't feel like it was there tonight. - Yeah, I think he can be better, for sure. You know, I think he is skating well, and I think he is handling the puck more than he did in a couple of the games in the first half of the series. I think there was a little bit of shell shock. He'd been, we know he'd been battered in the Predators series. I think he came in a little bit, gunshot remember early on talking after one of the games about the hot potato. That might have been game two, I'm not sure. But I think Hughes has been better, and he has looked more confident on the puck. But, you know, this is a 90-point defenseman, and a guy who, in my opinion, should win the Norris trophy. I voted for him. I think a lot of people have voted for him over Kayle McCarr. And he hasn't been bad in this series, but if, you know, special players find a way to do special things. And again, you know, Conor McDavid is not a good comparison, because by the time he's done, he's going to be the best guy to have played hockey since Wayne Gretzky and Mario Lemieux came along. As long as, and I say that, as long as he wins some Stanley Cups, 'cause you have to win at some point to validate that. But Conor McDavid has been a talking point in this series, 'cause he's had some very quiet games by his standards. And yet, in two of the games, game two and tonight, he came close to taking over the games and was outstanding. And I think at some point along the way, you want your top players to be able to do that. And it hasn't happened from Patterson, it hasn't really happened from Hughes, Miller and Besser. I mean, they've had a great series until tonight. And of course, Besser in round one and what he did against Nashville, I don't think he necessarily expect more from him. But yeah, there's some room here for the top players on this team to make a difference in game seven. - Yeah, you know what? If any of those players, even ones who have struggled mightily in the playoffs, like Patterson, if he has a good game seven and they win, as all people remember, or should remember really, after a tough second round battle between the Canucks and the Oilers. I'm back, we know we have a lot of work left to do, so we appreciate you coming away to give us some of your time here tonight. I can't wait to see you back in Vancouver on Monday, game seven for all the marbles. I mean, it's Besser seven, second round series with a chance goal to the Western Conference final. It's on Holmice, we really can't ask for a lot more in what's been a tremendous season so far. - Yeah, it's what they've played for and what every player should strive to be faced with. This is why you play the game, to hope that you have opportunities like this. And although the Canucks, the core players are young and you like to think they're gonna have more opportunities regardless of how things go on Monday, these chances are so rare and so special that you can't afford to let them go with anything less than your absolute best. And they didn't have it tonight and anywhere close to their best, but they can still have it on Monday. And as Tocke said, be a hero. - Well, we know we can rely on your best every time you're on with this. I am back, we appreciate the time very much. I can't wait to read your latest on SportsNet.ca and getting ready for game seven on Monday. - Good night, guys. - You got it. That's Ian McIntyre. Always a pleasure having him on here on the post game show. The show, our show is over, but the airwaves are still gonna be talking Canucks well into the evening. Josh Elliott-Wolf is coming up next for all your text messages coming in. Keeping it coming in, he'll be here chatting with you. Plus, there is gonna be some audio played, your phone calls, they'll get on to fast Eddie Gregory, Ben Basterin here as well. So we have all hands on deck more or less, but that's it for myself. That's your shot and Bik Nazar. Bik, you're back at it again on Monday. We're back on the post game show as well. - And then we get set, it's all game seven content on Monday. - Yeah, game seven, wall to wall, man. It's what everybody hopes for to watch at game seven and you got it here, man. - That's part of me, I don't have one said this tonight. I think everybody even said it's like, it's all you can hope for. It's like, I kinda hope they won it in four. - Sure. - What I'm saying, at this point in the season. - Yeah, totally, totally. - You're only game seven, like what else are you gonna hope? - It's quite the specter. - 100%, man. It's fantastic. All right, thank you all for listening, participating. It's always a pleasure chatting with you guys. I'm back on Canucks Central with Dan Richel on the pregame show as well. That's on Monday. You've been listening to the Canucks Central post game show presented by the number five orange. So the game is over, but he's a night really done. The number five is open on a Saturday night. More coming up next on Home of your Canucks, sportsnet 650.
