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And in my view, a lot of this does apply to the heat. And we'll get into some of the things that we've learned here, or we think we could learn going forward and that Miami can learn. But let's start with this, okay? Miami fell behind by about 20 points in Indiana late in the season. In a game that we talked about targeting for about three weeks. They played no defense at the beginning of that game. Yes, they were banged up and all the rest of it. They made a furious comeback. They got a couple of bad calls at the end of the game, which the NBA actually admitted. Remember the Tyler Hero play at the very end of that game. The heat officials are still talking about that one. But the reality was, okay, if you simply won that game, a lot of stuff might have looked different this season. Because you probably wouldn't have been in the plan. The plan is where Jimmy Butler got hurt. Jimmy Butler got getting hurt sunk the whole thing. And we've talked the whole year about taking the regular season more seriously. And obviously that's something Pat Riley believes in because an entire press conference was in some way or another about availability. They had some guys available in that game. It was not enough. They had a healthy roster, actually, if you remember, or mostly healthy roster by that point. And so we're going to be looking at that game for a while, because if so, the seating is different. You never know how other things are going to play out. Of course, the Knicks, you know, look, the bucks fell apart with injuries. The Knicks fell apart with injuries. That's something else to take from this. It's not just the heat. You got to have a deeper roster these days because guys are, no matter how much they're resting during the regular season, they're all getting hurt in the playoffs. And in the Knicks case, Alex, Tom Thibodeau, maybe that plays into it a little bit. Although there are some freak things with the Knicks as well, but there were also some wear injuries that appeared. But that's one of the things I'm taking is that this, again, as rocky as the season was, as many guys as were out, as inconsistent as some of the Heat's play was, and even as they dropped to about a net rating of zero for the season, they still had a chance to get to the Eastern Conference Finals if a couple of things had broken right during the regular season. So I'm just regretting that pace for game right now during the regular season because we might still be covering basketball. Yep. I mean, that game, it's great that you start this off with that because honestly, that wasn't even thinking about that. You know, congratulations to them, right? But it does kind of, I feel like fall into that line of thinking that the Heat like to talk about themselves with when it comes to like, you know, if things break your way, you can be in the conference finals. You have to feel the competitive team. You always got to be about winning and that type of message. And I think it kind of got confirmed, right? Because it's like, if you would have won a couple of more games, if you would have executed better, you're in the same position. And now the problem is, right? It's like usually when things break right for one team, one or two teams, it's breaking very much the complete other way for, you know, the other teams involved. And unfortunately for the Heat, like they were one of those teams. I mean, he even after all of this with all these banged up teams, he were probably just more injured than anybody, right? Like, I don't know if that's changed, just with at the scale that it was where it's like, you weren't only missing your best player missing a lot of your offense to like, it was just, you know, it's unfortunate. So you can look at it in the sense of like, you know, when a couple more games and this could be you back in the conference finals versus Boston instead of having to play them in round one. And the problem is they were just as hurt, if not more, than other teams. But I mean, that game is definitely like, that's where it all, that's where it all changed. And I think we knew it at the time, but now it's just to a whole other level now that the paces are in the freaking conference finals. Like, they're a good team. Like, I know everybody's gonna talk about how they weren't supposed to be here and all of that. That's a good team who traded for an all star at the deadline. And it worked for them and added, you know, another half court player who they can get offense from, they're getting, you know, pretty good play out of their role players, you know, Carlisle has done it for years. They deserve some credit, but yeah, things broke right for them. Yeah, and look, again, before the season started, most were not projecting them to be even a second round team. And, and I think that's the other thing to be taken. And if you look at both conferences, both teams in surprise teams in the conference finals made significant moves at the deadline. Now the heat did too. They picked up Terry Rosier, their guy was not available. Okay, once you got to the postseason, but it wasn't just Siakam on one side. It was also, you know, picking up Gafford and PJ Washington for Dallas, because without them. Dallas is not in the conference final and I would argue their achievement is more significant because they've come out of that conference to get to the conference final, which again, to beat OKC and to beat the Clippers. Two teams that at various points of the season, you're talking about a one seed and another team that was kind of a dark horse to get to the finals. So I think for a lot of heat fans, this is going to confirm the fact that you have to keep changing the roster, no matter when. Again, the heats counter to that will be what we did, we added Terry Rosier, we had a position of need, we had a malcontent on the roster, we needed to upgrade our ability to get to the basket, make plays offensively when things broke down, we got a guy. He started to develop into that for us, and then he had this, I don't know, weird neck injury that nobody can really explain. And so he was not available at that time, it may not have mattered with Jimmy going out anyway. But it's just, I do think for a lot of heat fans will be like, OK, you make moves, but again, it doesn't necessarily have to be a superstar move. In the Indiana case, Siakama's borderline, he's a star, he's not a superstar. Now he did make his first five shots today, and obviously was a big factor in everything that they've done because without him, Halliburton's decline, which was significant after the all-star game, they would not have been able to make up for that. But also, Alex, to look at the rest of the roster, though, you can see some things, and again, we can talk about they caught breaks and the Knicks were hurt and all that. They are in the conference finals, there are 13 teams in the Eastern Conference that are done playing, the Pacers are one of the two teams still playing, that is an achievement, OK? I judge teams by conference finals, OK? Like to me, if you're in a conference finals, you're contending, I mean, you're on the doorstep, and even if they get blown out for nothing, they still, OK, achieve something this year. But, I mean, if you look at their roster, like, Nemhard was huge for them, second round pick, 31st overall, I believe. You know, it was like he's playing behind Halliburton, he's playing with Halliburton, we've talked about Teachim McConnell, what he's contributed to them, Obie Toppen, who played a big role for them at times this season, that was a small trade with the Knicks of all teams. It doesn't always have to be, they made one major, basically gave up a couple of first round picks, right, and a second for Siakim, essentially. And that's, look, that's a major move, and people didn't think necessarily they were ready to make that kind of move, they did credit to them for that. But this also does show you that the fringe moves matter, the second round picks matter, hitting on some of those guys, and then also fit matters, and I think that's a big thing here as we talk about the heat going into the off season. And so, is that Indiana found a style, okay, like Carlisle, you know, came up with a style that was completely different than what he used in Dallas, what he's used for other Indiana teams, other Detroit teams, he's coached. He rides this guy's hard, okay, not the same way his tips does, but he does. And he came up with a style that was more free flowing, more to Halliburton's, you know, pacing and all the rest of that. And they improved just enough defensively to be able to still be effective. So, I think the heat, they have to decide what their style is, this off season. Like, what are we playing? Like, are we going to play slow down with Jimmy? Or are we going to try to open it up more offensively? I think that's another thing that can be picked up from Indiana. I'm not saying that, look, again, they're a great basketball team. I don't think they are, but I do think they've maximized what they have by at least knowing what their identity is. Yeah, I think that's a fair point. And I think there was, you know, there was some growing pains along the way after the Siakum thing, where it's like, it wasn't all just, okay, perfect, you know, they're winning a ton of games and everything looks amazing. You know, and just looking at some stats, I was looking at like their pre Siakum and post Siakum trade stats and funny enough, like they had one of the best transition offensive ratings. Before the Siakum trade, and it was much closer to the bottom afterwards. So I think like having, you know, it kind of relates to what we're talking about here, the conflict of styles, because Siakum is very much like a half court type of player who can play kind of slow, you know, when he has the ball in his hands. Like, it's not a fast paced offense when he is playing his game out there. And I think it shows that like, you know, it's kind of worth it trying to figure some of those things out. We're like, it's not, not everything has to be a perfect fit. You know, there is upside for things and, you know, it's, it goes back to just a fundamental, like, okay, we want to build around this thing. We want to make this work, right? And it's not just giving up on it. You know, when things get tough and just being like, Oh, well, we've seen it, right? Like, have you, have you gone through all the paths necessary to maximize what you have? And, you know, I think we can have a conversation as far as like whether the heat have or haven't in these past years, we didn't really get to see it. This past season, like the theory of the team went after, you know, all the acquisitions. And so it's a little bit tough to have the conversation, but it's also tough to just say, you know, pick a style, because you have different types of players. And then like Spell mentioned, when he accidentally or maybe not so accidentally let out there that they were juggling three offensive philosophies, that that's like, you know, that, that was, I know I've already mentioned it a bunch of times, but that was telling to me because he had a hard time balancing it. And I think it's just like, you know, these, those are the growing pains of trying to add like trying to diversify your offense and doing new things. Like, he went through it like a lot of the times in the last couple of seasons when it's bam, slow down, face up like that was not really how the offense looked in the beginning of the Jimmy era, you know what I mean like they've tried to add these new things. They haven't really, you know, found a perfect balance, but I think like he would tell you this is part of like the process to getting to the other side, because if not, it would have just kind of been where it was before where it was like kind of with the Sacramento Kings do a lot of like that dribble hand off spit, spit action offense and, you know, playing off of that, which is fine too. And I think we all like that part of their offense but like they've clearly tried to add more layers. And I think it sounds nice on paper, but when you don't balance it perfectly, you kind of have with the heat had the season, especially with all the availability stuff. And so that's like something I'm definitely looking forward to next season to just see like how they, you know, approach that. Well, and I think the other thing that'll come out of this. I mean, you mentioned offense specifically is I think that Indiana getting here does speak to the need to lean into offense more. I, you know, Boston was historically good offensively for good portions of the season. Now they're playing another good offensive team in the Eastern Conference finals and, you know, look, Riley harped on the 21st rank offense. He said it several times during his press conference. It has to be a focus this offseason to just be a more pleasing style of ball. I mean, Indiana came out today. Look, you're not going to shoot the ball like that. Anytime. Okay, particularly in a game seven on the road, but they were shooting 80% from the field like through the first like quarter and a half of that game. Miami had like one game like that the whole year that was that game to in Boston, which was, you know, which again is going to look back as somewhat flooky if in retrospect it was kind of a great achievement that they got that one game but they have to lean into offense a little bit more. I think it's clear at this point. We know the way that the Nuggets can play offensively and we're doing this episode prior to Minnesota and the Nuggets playing Minnesota is better defensively than Denver. It was a little bit of a different style, but I just, it's so hard to like the Pacers are so built towards offense and like, you know, they've been, they are, they are, but they're not complete cones on defense in the playoffs like it's not like, you know, everybody is just doing whatever they want. They're still not an elite defense but like, I think it lends to the idea where like if you have this great fantastic offense where you have so many levers you can pull, and it's mostly reliable and mostly potent. You know, then the defense just needs to be good enough and I feel like that's kind of like what happened with the Nuggets too, except I think their defense last year and this year even is better. And that patient's defense for sure. But I think that is a style that you're talking about and I don't think he fitted to that style with the way the team is built, you know, so like, it's just so much easier said than done, you know, like it's, he's trying all these different things for like none of them are, you know, like that great option. Well, and the reality is it honestly is like number one in offensive rating number half or number two and half court offensive rating like that's an elite offensive team. But as long as I my view as long as Jimmy and Bam are your top two offensive options you're not going to be a top 12 offense I just don't think at this stage and we've talked about it many times you probably will be a top 12 defense. But you're probably not going to be a top 12 offense and the question is who do you add as the other pieces to get you there and what is where does the usage go for the two of them and what is the style that you're going to play and I know that he fans are going to say it's simple just go get Donna Mitchell, maybe it's maybe so, maybe so. Okay, but I'm saying like it's as currently constructed. It is going to be a damn challenge available or not to create that kind of offense. They have to be better. I think we all agree about that. Alright, speaking of things that can be better my prize picks today but that's okay there's always another game. Go to prize picks dot com use the code five FIVE get that initial deposit match up to $100 is legal again in the state of Florida that's right it's legal again their new arena game set your lineup anywhere between two and four players. 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Embades injury played into that they obviously had some turmoil moving off of harden things change there. I think we thought Orlando would be better I don't think we thought they'd be in a four five game and then Cleveland was one of those teams again depending on fit which it seems to have a lot to do with that. You know might be in the mix there but the Miami was kind of in that tier with Cleveland maybe even ahead of Orlando maybe a little ahead of Indiana maybe sort of you know right behind Boston Milwaukee Philly kind of on the fringe of that. I think that's where and with New York that's kind of where most people had them has something significantly changed before we go into the offseason because there's going to be player movement. But now you've got a team that was not considered to be in the first tier even the second tier that's in the conference finals. Right and beads health going forward always going to be an issue. Randall the magic are coming Cleveland might lose Mitchell or they might move off of Mitchell if he if that's his inclination. I want to talk about my what Cleveland might do there's I know we haven't really talked about this possibility and I don't want to like, you know be the buzzkill be the demi down and raw he fast but there is a scenario with all this garland smoke where they like flip him for a different star. You know and and instead it's just Cleveland with a different look coming in which of course you know kill all of our spirits but I think you know that's possible too since you asked about like what can change like if they flip like Garland for Ingram maybe. I don't know if that would make sense for both teams but like something like that right like right means willing like certain stars bring balance the roster a little bit because Mitchell and Garland are both so ball dominant no that makes sense I mean I think I don't want to move him I don't know. I mean here's the thing if Indiana somehow upsets Boston to go to the finals and they are going to be a historic conference finals underdog like they are going to be I mean we talked about what the heat were as an underdog against them even when led and healthy or I think Indiana may be equal to that in terms of underdog against the rest of Boston team now particularly at the level they're at in the playoffs now where everybody's going to expect I mean look 18 different including our friends George and Izzy 18 different ESPN employees picked the Knicks to beat the Pacers nobody picked the Pacers so this is going to be another 18 I don't know that is now at least Izzy went pays a Nixon seven. This is going to be a clean sweep okay everybody is going to pick Boston so I don't think anybody's really taking the Pacers all that seriously but with that said if they got two or three games in this series then you would start to talk about them okay this is a team on the rise as the bill has gotten some playoff grit some playoff experience they've been really good at home okay and now they just went into game seven and I know bought I know the Knicks are beat up but they want to game seven in New York that's not easy regardless I you know we're going to start talking about them in that tier and they may add I mean I know they've given up Hicks but they now that they sort of have a build here they've got some interesting young players I mean he Smith was a pretty good pick up for them I mentioned top and Nemahart you know has some ability there that they played off of him so and they had they never traded Miles Turner all these years was on other trade Miles Turner they still have Miles Turner there so I just think if you're Miami okay if you don't make a major move I don't know that they're going to be considered in that second tier necessarily behind let's say Boston they may be considered to be and we'll see what happens with Dame and Milwaukee but and the Bucks have a limited flexibility but we see what they do I think we have to at least put this in the context like this is not a great conference that's one of the reasons Indiana could make the conference final but if you're a lot of competitive teams there and if Miami does nothing then he fans are going to be like okay we're falling behind even further Indiana as you said is the youngest did the youngest team in the league right now that are Greg said that on playback the youngest team in the league and and yeah I mean the it really speaks to the parody in the league now and I know it's still kind of unbalanced because everybody knows the West is still stronger is both conferences when you look at it are deep with competitive teams like you said but like most of the real best teams are in the West are in the West the thing is plenty of good teams in the east just not like amazing and so Boston looks like fantastic and racks up this nice regular season standings I mean record because of this but no not to take shots at Boston go paces but I do think just like looking at the way this all turned out it it's a shame man it's a shame it could have been the heat right back and it could have been us losing to Boston at home and watching them win in Boston another year and instead you know we they got the short end of the stick this time I think I think people are still going to throw them into that category of like the second tier east team next season because of the benefit of the doubt and I guess because we never really got to see how they were supposed to look right and I think that that you know with Terry and with Hawkez and you know which involved you know Tyler in the mix is like a third or fourth option we just didn't get to see that and I know like a lot of people are going to you know roll their eyes when they hear me say that it's just true like I'm not saying that that team wins a title but like it's it's true but they are going to roll their eyes I mean I and I and I and I and I if the heat we're going to try to solve that again they can't do nothing doing nothing I mean you like you let like a couple of guys walk replace some better minimum guys you know you draft somebody that's that you nothing scenario for heat fans there has to be there has to be an in between between giving up everything from the star which again you may not get them anyway particularly because she is not really that many available and they all seem to have extenuating circumstances involved with them or doing nothing like I and and so it's it's this striking this balance of not doing too much for the wrong guy but but something has to be done like that they can't come back like you said with just okay Caleb's gone maybe hey what's gone we don't even I don't even know we're gonna bring major passes on I don't feel like they have as many guys in the pipeline as they've had particularly up front it seems a little bit thin doesn't mean they can't locate a guy or they haven't targeted a guy a lot of this Williams is really the only one that kind of intrigues me honestly I don't know if swider can fill a Duncan Robinson role I don't know if he's ever gonna be a good enough defender seems like the cane thing is sailed the Orlando Robinson thing is kind of sale like I don't know you know where they're at with it like who's next in that like we've gone into previous offices like just a lot just Williams is the one and I'm curious to see how some of some of it seems to be on athleticism and all this and bounce that he's gotten I want to see how that translates at the next level which when he gets consistent minutes which he hasn't gotten yet so I think that again they have to do something more than just doesn't mean they have to overpay these guys like Caleb et cetera but it just means they have to do something more like you said just replace them with minimums or they got a really hit on the minimums and it's funny because the one of the biggest minimum success stories of this entire post season is DJ J is Derek Jones Jr. And I'm not arguing that they should have kept him he was nine million a year at the time they let him go to Portland we can we'll do another part of that in maybe during the next series but I'm just saying like you got to hit on one or two of those probably like Philly hit on his friend athletic wing who plays defense you know I know you like him Greg those two I was good at the zone I know well he's only 27 too so maybe you have another chance at him someday but it doesn't seem like he's going to get paid this off season. He could be he could be on the band retirements or not this year no not this year not on the money he's going to make that that is that is gone but I just say they have to hit on some minimums but nobody was really are well you might have been I was not arguing for them to keep DJ J at that price at that time I was like I really wanted him to go. I liked him too but then my whole thing was was he going to hit corner threes because that that was a necessity and like he and now the last three games all of a sudden you know he's a sniper and they have guys with that generate like they're just you know they generate more things in the court and I know it's another word that people are going to roll their eyes at but like just guys who would demand a lot of attention if you want to put it in a different way. He don't have a Luca on offense okay basically or a got a Luca go get it go find yourself go find a Luca and the yellowsburg pirelli Adam Simon. 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