[Music] Yes, so welcome to the left-wing back podcast, after another cracking episode of "Tanks to our Proud Partners" out of the Carla Earthspaz, and Maurice Balamorphie, of course, since Pat O'Hern photography, crew of sports, property partners, Pory Dunn, and of course, PFT Travel, and Ray Whelan. There are plenty of good sponsors, Kev. It's a fantastic show. I've been listening to it right throughout the season, and thanks very much for asking us to present it. Yeah, pleasure of always your luck. It's great to have you along to present the programme. I like going in as a guest occasionally. I'm probably a bit too opinionated at a time, so it's good to maybe jump out of presenters' chair, and look, we are grateful for our partners. Tommy Boggin, a veteran man, to bang a hammer on a house up there in Port Leish, Pory Dunn Motors, you'll find him a course up on the O'Brien road. 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Yeah, I thought you were going to leave him out there for a moment, a proper revamp as well, and many a good night. We hadn't the hilltop, of course, down in balamorphy. Including me, Stag Kev, but we're not going to get into that. I suppose, look at the head, I suppose, we're at the halfway point, really, aren't we, in the inter-county season, if you like. And the Talting Cup really heating up now. And I suppose, look, we're going to come on to the carlo, obviously, versus Wexford match, and in the horland, massive game, upcoming versus Antram, and of course, we'll be touching upon the overall GA coverage, not just GA go, but I suppose, in general, across the GA world, the coverage that I suppose, not just the carlo have been getting, but the Lenster Championship in the horland and the Talting Cup, we'll be taking a look at that, and we'll also mention, of course, the ladies' footballers and the carlo kamogi team as well, who have around this upcoming weekend as well. So lots to discuss, but I suppose no better place to start, Kevin and Carla Fermana in the Talting Cup, and the score line, I suppose, there was only a kick of a ball in it, really, one 13 to 13 points, Totsan, the overall performance from Carla, and where we're at now, in terms of the Talting Cup. Yeah, well, I think, over the past couple of years in the Talting Cup, Carla have been quite competitive, and they've drawn up a few really good results, like, I remember the tip, rarely one in particular, a couple of years back, tip, coming off the back from Monster Championship, literally a year or two before that, as well, it was quite impressive, and, you know, we've got the occasion of the hockey, and I think the worst hockey that we got, it's been biased, naturally, to be honest with you, it was the extra game, the long extra part, and I think that's why the nature of what happened against Leish, sauce and fries, like, how could you envisage that happen, and you couldn't have envisaged the bet, and the boys were going to get an extra part, but equally how they turned it around, I went to a more park where, you know, let's be honest about it, like, Leish are probably not a whole lot better, I'm sure, they always think they're about 10 things better, that's like, reality is they're not. Do I now talk from with the weekend, and only scrape over lending a week, or admittedly it's a difficult place to go, but, like, if you look at it objectively over the last couple of years, like, you know, they've got to hide enough awfully themselves, who have proven to be no world-beaters in the Talting Cup, you know, they've got to bait them off of London, and last again at the weekend, like, where are we at, I suppose, like, I think, in fairness, someone has said, I think it was Billy O'Lachlan said, when the ground gets harder, this car on the team commented it on, and it's probably not too far out, because you've got a lot of pace in the side, and I think, you know, we use that to go to fight against Leish at seam, there wasn't other now, we're just going by reports, I was there for the Fremann again, now, the Fremannen performance, I would say, was poacher-esque for that arm, one of the most, like, you know, a three-point lead was effectively, like, a six or seven-point lead, they were so difficult to break down that, like, you know, you just felt coming down the last five, six minutes, that, you know, it'll take a miracle for Cara to get a goal here, because, like, half of the Fremannen was there, like, you know, in a skill in Belik, the whole lot of the best, the best, like, anyway, so, I think the tale of this one, to be honest with you, Bowser, was just before half-time, or maybe just in the quarter, call up the half-time, the second quarter, for Cara looking a squander to a goal-chance, it's now Eric Maloy, you know, not a better man to break a line, he's a superb athlete, he looks after himself so well, came onto a ball, probably sure to give it to Dara Foley, who was in a better position, Dara was bold-take with him afterwards, took on the shot, and, you know, it was snuffed out. Equally, you know, a very good move, I have to say, and I don't think Paddy Mac was a fault for going for this one, but at the same time, you know, I don't know, is it harsh to criticize the composer? I think it was a pretty good move, he's probably right to go for it, if I'm being honest, that was under reflection, and that was snuffed out again. From having to go down then, just before half-time, I'm not going to go out, I'm going to point up, and, like, the goal, psychologically, was a big thing in it, because Cardo had quite well and joined that open in half, and indeed, into the second half, they kicked some really good scores, like, scores of the high Oliver, one from Ross Downfield in particular, I've never really seen the like, oh, it was like a bicycle kick, like he kicked it out over his head, it's like something you're trying under a 12-game, and failed miserably, and he was already 30, 30, 35 yards down in this one, another one from Jamie Clark, it was, okay, I know Pepperana has not left for it, but he threw it up at one hand, and kicked it off the left over the bar from Ray and Giselle, because the forman lap was hanging out on the other side, like Aaron Am and kicked a good one, Mikey Vamre kicked a cracking as well, and it was into the second half, like, Aaron Foley kicked another unbelievable point from player, we actually produced a really good performance and a really encouraging performance, it was hard to come away at critical, to be quite honest with you, and there is times during the league where we would have been critical, and definitely critical with that extra performance, but I think they're in a pretty good position now, if I'm honest, like, if you look at it, okay, the Falcon Cup is a little bit ours, but it's in the sense that New York coming to it, and the preliminary quarter finals there is not having to play for games, and obviously the top team goes through the second team's got show, and then only three of the top players' teams over the four got show, because that New York have to come in, so where does that leave us? Obviously that leaves us with a point, there is teams and other groups that have no points, so someone at best can only finish on two there, the simple thing is we're going to be at weight law, we're true, I draw, I think might work out okay, because we've only got a minus 3 score difference in two games, even though we've only got a point, which is bizarre, so like, it is all to play for, there's a good appetite for this, I think, in fairness, this particular competition, I don't know, is it is it covered well, it's certainly covered better than Harlan, they had a launch for it anyway, at least, and look at, I think we're in a decent up position, and I can't really figure out why, because how they got it together after the week, so again, you have to commend them for that, like really. Yeah, just looking at this, I suppose the starting lineup, and even the squad at the month, there's not massive height or size, but we do have pace and abundance, and looking at the wing forward, now, and am, and obviously, you know, Patty McDonald, you know, you have the likes of Mikey Bambrick coming from, obviously, coming from deep as well, and I suppose looking at the performances, and I suppose the results, you know, two gritty performances, without winning, I think it's fair to say, to come back against Leish, 1988, I think it was the last time, Carla Bitt Leish in the championship, you know, so that was very, very encouraging, and obviously, we would have got to live from the Harlers as well, winning the day before, but, you know, that was a welcome result, I think, against Leish, and obviously, only kicking the ball here, but I suppose, where, what is the strengths of the Carla team, what do we need to work on going forward into the Wicklow match, because Wicklow, a win there, will obviously put us in a very good position, I think, when takes us to the quarters, isn't it? Yeah, and a drama, as well, as I was just kind of saying there, but, like, firstly, I don't know where that game is going to be played, it's supposed to be a Notre venue, Paul Bourne, a good friend in the podcast, suggested Hackett's talent, and I don't think, I don't think it's the worst show in the world, because, I don't think it's the worst show in the world, because, um, I don't think it's the worst show in the world, because, um, I don't think it's the worst show in the world, Galatastra, yeah, Jamie Mack, um, I don't know if it'll be able to, to, to get her for the course, and it is all done with you, but the likelihood is that, more or far, I would say, it probably will be the venue, and that's where it would have played when there was Notre venues in times gone by, but, um, like, Wicklow got off a bit, and off from Anna in the first round, like, a terrible bit, and from Anna, our strong side will be expecting to go very far into the, the competition, like, I, okay, the boys are gone beyond more victories now, but there is an awful lot to the optimistic about, um, last year, like, went hard on with Lomèce, with Labita Menachra and the first round, and then the men that had been cut down there again, and Carolina led on, so, like, I suppose historic leader isn't, there isn't, kind of, much between them, and can they do it, yeah, I, I, I've asked him to do it now, I think they're in a pretty good place, like, and, they don't seem to have picked up too many injuries at the moment either, now they have lost key players, like Jordan Morrissey is gone, we know that, that's all news at this stage, but, I noticed Josh Moore and Derek Horner back with the club, incidentally, just a quick side note, the senior football semi-fines were last Friday, Seamus Kinzler still doing the business for Arthur, I think he's 40 this year, and, uh, he kicked 11 pines out of 16 or something for Arthur and again, a little more, in the division one semi-fines, semi-fines, low-end extra pines, so, it'll be a, an Arthur and Raffili division one final, that's on Friday, the other semi-fines was, um, Raffili Erog, and Raffili won that quite court from the end, but back to the point, Josh Moore and Derek Horner are back with Raffili, now, I don't know how the exactings are now to this, but, Raffili met O'Lachlan in a league game, going back a mostly five, six weeks going out, not so long after the extra game, and in all Raffili County players did play, and O'Lachlan's didn't, I think the instruction was for them not to play, now this is a different issue of course as well, like, shouldn't they, shouldn't they, my own view and it's only me own opinion, if there is a six week guy, let the boys back to the club, let them recalibrate, get back to enjoying the game, and then get them back together and have a fist to it, but in spite of that, we should look at the performances then, they're probably proven correct, but we can't afford to be without guys, this is, this is the whole all of it when, when all the door settles, like Josh Moore has been at the heart of our defense for quite some time, Derek Horner is always there, they're about starting on that team, like, that's where I would kind of worry for the side, maybe coming down into the business end of things, like do we, do we have the depth, and the same might apply for the horrors, which I know we come on, come on to it in a little bit, are you worried about that, I remember your question, I'm going off on a round point, like, well, it was, it was, it was the question is in terms of, you know, go, go ahead to take on Wicca this weekend, where do we need to be better, because obviously shipping, you know, 419 against Wexer in the first round, we seem to have made progress defensively from that, you mentioned, you know, the two goals going opportunities that we missed against for man, I mean, the game wasn't the balance after 30 minutes, Kev, you know, with six points to four, we were in control, I mean, you know, to, to, to concede that goal at the time that we did, where do you think we can, I suppose, cap or, you know, improve, I suppose going forward in, in the season, you know, heading into the, to the Wichler game is win that, or obviously, we shouldn't fear Wichler for sure, and, you know, you mentioned the hammer that they've, you know, picked up already, did this season, but coming forward into the game this weekend, where do we need to be better, and, you know, against for manna, my question would be, were we not clinical enough, and at the same time, were we naive and defence, I mean, for manna, you know, you mentioned the defensive style, the structure, and they're obviously a big unit, and big physical players in the side, but inviting a carlo on will be a little bit naive, and did we get caught at the wrong time, you know, where do we need to be better as the question? Where do we need to be better? It is, it is a good question in fairness. I don't actually have the way it's count now, which would have been interesting one to have the hand, and I usually always would, but like two players for us who traditionally come up with scores, didn't actually score today, that's kind of Crowley, I call him Alden, like there are shooters caught on court, and looking down to, like, there are four legos six points, right, we come to expect that, he scares me Mrs. Freeze, and he was like, pretty much flawless again, that are there, Jamie Tarrach, if they were like, here and more, and coming back into the side is a big, big positive, and he kicked a point, Karma Glom, what's got a point, Bambrick, Aaron Am and Rastonvi, so on the one hand, you have a serious spread of scores, and then on the other hand, they suppose you have the guys who traditionally would come up with a few, you know, didn't fire dinner there, is that necessarily playing, saying they didn't play well? No, they did have their moments on the ball, did they get into money shooting positions? Not quite sure, I'd like to see them probably get into those positions a little bit more often, and that could be in, in essence, like the difference at the end of the day. Like, I think just to go back to like what you're saying, just really in the speed, like, like, I can ammo all these guys, looking down to your team again, Bambrick, McDonald, Malay, Clark, like Holden as a boss as well, Rastonvi is a powerhouse, Connor Dyle, once he opens the legs for Jesus, he may forget about like, he's like a racehorse, you know all about him, Lomax, Am and Crowley, like, these guys have pace, and there's pace coming afterling, like, here and more is a complete athlete, like an absolute athlete, Peri, likewise, I think just stick to the strengths, which is our pace, I keep running on that. Not getting turned over in the long part of the pitch, I think that probably is the beating of London, the ball into contact, I mean, just listening to Mark Fury's interview that you did after the game, Kev, you know, the one comment that, you know, he said was, you know, they've learned not to give up, so I think mentally, there seemed to be a better place, but I suppose, in terms of overall shape and areas for improvement, you think just play towards Shrinson, run the ball. Keep running, if we draw a freeze, Darryl won't miss them, simple as that, like, you know, you play with him, he says go to free takers in the country, he's absolutely unbelievable, even after right hand side, which shouldn't favor him like, and, you know, we're actually very good at work and scores, I get in guys into the position take on the shot, and I think to be fair, like, while we might have been heavier aligned on those two guys, I spoke about Crowley, and, and holding outside the folly, like, all those guys I named are, well, they had to kick scores as well, and maybe that's a, you know, a big positive, we see a lot of get-a-to-day shooter, you know, traditionally, down to 30 years, we had, you know, Broderick was our shooter, and Ganamay Chivin with a couple of points, but when you see these guys, like, they are capable of taking on their own, and we're good at working it, so I would, I wouldn't think that there's too much to be tweaking, I think another big positive for us is Johnny Shorty's kick out, I thought he was brilliant with him the other day, because I think he'd be the first one to admit that at times he probably had a struggle on him at different stages this year, but I thought he improved and though it was massively the other day, getting them off and our movement and all was good, so I'd be pretty pleased with the progress we're making, and I think we're going to go with this one just to make our game. Yeah, well, is this a defining game do you think of the Karoo era, because preliminary rounds of the Linster football championship, you know, the last four seasons, you know, 2022, beaten by loud, 2021, beaten by Langford, well beaten by Langford, you know, this is the this is the fourth season for Niall Karoo, is this a defining game do you think with the opportunities that the Talchunk Cup can provide? Yeah, look, it's it's a big question, it's a it's a good question I suppose, like, you know, I obviously know Niall quite well, I like him on a person level, he's always been very good to me, and then in relation to the football side of it, well, yeah, I mean, Niall has always placed a huge importance on the championship, and results in the Linster championship in particular, having been good, like, if you look at it, the majority haven't haven't been great, there's no there's no getting away from that, and then you move into the Talton, so what way do you put on the Talton? Like, effectively, it is it is still championship, you know, if we're to be like that about it, and he hasn't had a bad record when it comes to the Talton, I think I suppose the biggest failing, and look, he might as well call it a failing because it is a goal of Karoo, and it has been for some time Niall has said it himself, he's not getting out of vision four, which we simply have to do, so I think Niall even come on into this new that he was going under savage pressure, and he is under pressure, absolutely, he is, they have produced the performance against leash, and encouraged him one against from Anna, they need to win against Whitlaw, they really need to win, I think, you know, why would I agree with you? The draw, the draw does do them and get them on the group of course, they need to perform anyway, and whether that leads to a draw or a win. Well, see, that's the thing, I suppose that's the thing, Kevin, for me, you know, you look back, you know, five, six seasons ago, you know, that's was spoken with the style of football, on the under, obviously, Tolo and Tabby, and even Stevie Poacher, you know, but I suppose it is a results game, and just, you know, from my point of view, looking in, and to see the county struggle over the last four years in Lienster, you know, five, ten, to ten points against Leur, I'm living up here, I mean, that wasn't fucking nice. You look, obviously, back into, you know, 20, 20, three, you know, two, 12 to 10 points against Whitlaw and Akram, look, it can be a tough place to go, as we know Akram, and obviously, the heavy beat into Wexford this year. For me, like, Lienster Championship comes first, that's my own personal view on it, and that was a humiliation against Wexford this year. Looking at the last two performances, it is encouraging, but, you know, to play well, and not be winning matches, to me, as a worry, I just think, you know, you can't be, you can't be placed in that much weight on the Tarleton Cup, that's just my own personal view on it. Look, it's good to see the last two, you know, performances, and the result against Leish, but that's just my view on it. We're going to pack the football there for the moment. Before we do move on from the football, Kev, will we beat Whitlaw? Yeah, as far as look, we've a couple of weeks, kind of at the time, we're recording to think about this. As I said, look, we don't know what the venue is, but it isn't, of course, this weekend, it's the week after, whatever. I think we will, to be honest with you. Yeah, I think when the chips are down, I fancy these guys to come up with the goods. You know, the thing about them is, I've always said it, it's the, the big advantage about the card of footballers is that they are unpredictable, and the biggest heartache is that they're unpredictable. You know, the two of them can coexist together. I do fancy them. I think, yeah, I think they'll pull it out of the bike, I think they will, yeah, yeah, just about though. I'm hesitant, I'm not, I'm not cock sure that. Just one other thing, like, to go back to that particular era, this is a big elephant in the room, by the way. Like, are we now happier as a county to look at the brand of football that we're playing? We got our talent and cup results. We don't get what we're wishing for, or we look at some of the garbage that we saw at times when we were winning, and it was garbage football. There's no point saying that was easy on the audience. It wasn't easy on the audience. There was some, like, you know, really good periods of attacking player, but overall, it was pretty defensive and it's time to place out of it. And then there was occasions where we got the balance spot on the Caldera game, the O-game back in 2018. Fantastic days. But like it was, that's what it's all about. That's what it's all about competing at the, you know, the top table in the Linster championship, that day, that day against Caldera, you know, was fantastic. And even to go in at halftime, four points down against Dublin, and obviously, in the portra area, era, sorry, should I say, you know, to be frustrating Dublin. And, you know, the game, that game was, was still very much in the balance before Brendan Murphy got sent off. You know, so, so I just think that has to be priority. That's my own personal view, whether that's it as a lot would agree with me. There's probably some that would disagree, looking at the style of football. I mean, you know, to ship 419, the first rounded Linster championship defensively, there's a lot wrong with that. And, you know, that's just my own opinion. Well, come here. You're actually, you've an interesting point that you make because, you know, we beat Wexer in 2017. We won two Linster's against 2018. We didn't win Linster's against 2019. But that's three more than it. Nail has a more Linster's against Carla. So, you know, that, that is, that's a stash. There's no, there's, there's no arguing that. Then there's another element where we score 28 points and no goals in, in three first round, preliminary round championship matches between 2022 and 2024, 10 points in 2022, 2023, 10 points again against Wicklow. Obviously, 22 was against loud. And, you know, 2024, we scored eight points. We didn't break the Ted. So, you know, you're talking about brand of football and attack and style. I mean, I'm exactly overly attacking. You know, so that's, I think you need to get the balance right. And, personally, you know, someone who's, you know, played for the county, you know, who's wore the shirt, who's, you know, watching in from a different county, you know, that's a little bit disappointing. You're probably used to be played about it. The loud, the loud, the loud style is very much that particular brand. Look, I'm a positive note. Look, Kev, look, as I was looking at, you know, the, the, the, the style of football we're playing at the moment. And you, you know, you mentioned the kickers that we do have and the pace that we have around, you know, the forward, lane, Darafoli, you know, his 15th, you know, championship in, in, in the carol shirt. I mean, that's some achievement. It's scored six points at the weekend. And I think the younger lads around him. I mean, looking at the, you know, the carol forward lane against Stefanetta, Aaron Am and Patti McDonald, Connor Crowley. And, you know, these lads should be learning off Darafoli. And he is the man who can kick the points from Freeze, you know, you're looking at Samuel Ryan Loud, for example, you know, they're able to, you know, he, Darafoli is arguably just going to kick her. And maybe not from the dead ball, but certainly from, from, from the hands, from Freeze, if they can work the ball well enough and learn from Darafoli when he's there, as certainly upfront, I think that's something that it'd be good to see us get around the talent in Cup, wouldn't it? I would, I think, I think we've learned a time to learn from Darafoli, to be honest, I'm not trying to retire now, but I think the GA are trying to retire. And I had a big pause up there over the last couple of weeks about his score and record. I don't have that to hand now either. This is great hard to get her, isn't it? From my, from my point of view, but it's quite significant. He's obviously Carlos, you know, a top scorer of all time, right? Is it lads? Do you stop putting up all of that? He'll be out here. I think today, Darafoli requires we're in big trouble, genuinely. Like, he's a once in a generation type player. He's been there to take in 10. And I'm looking down at the count of the minute. I see some really, really good footballers. I don't see another Darafoli. I think you might never see the leg of Megan. He's been that good for us. Like, and he's been so influential. He's a great leader. Like, as you said, like what he does for those around him. So like, who's going to step up when Daraf's gone? That's it. That's a concern that you've had. All right. I would have. I look, to be honest, to be fair about it. And I know, you know, you put the stats there and you can't argue with them. Well, you have to put on record as well. We have lost some really, really talented players over the last four or four years. Last players, Kevin, this is no doubtably beat a transition period. But I suppose looking at looking at the rain, you know, four primarily Lindster championship, you know, defeats in a role, still playing division for football, a couple of heavy beatings along the way, and playing well in certain games, but not actually getting overlying and winning them. For me, I'd rather play poorly and win matches. You know, when I say play poorly, I mean, a different style of play. The style has changed. The players have changed. And it's been a transition period. But that's why I personally think this is a different game. And the funny game will come against Victor. Yeah, that is really, really interesting. Something has to give. I saw you know, this is this is great, actually, to give a bit of perspective. There was a chap standing beside me at the match yesterday with 15 minutes to go as his father could go home. And that's because of formana, not because of Caro, the way they were playing like. Now, the children were saying that when we were doing it, because we were getting results at the end of the day and winning it. But that's, I suppose, the fear that I might have is where, you know, you have these young kids and they're there looking to be to be entertained. And we're all there looking to be entertained. Six years ago, Kevin, six years ago, right? Caro were beating down the Lindston Senior Football Championship. Six years later, we're getting hammered by Wexford and Hammer and Louder Hammer and Wexford in the next round, the quarter final. So, you know, I think it's, for me, there's a word called pride. And I certainly have it when it comes to Caro football. And look, let's hope that they can continue the progression. And, you know, obviously, upcoming against Wicklow, big one local game. And you're not talking about yet. Wish the lads luck. I think we've been down this row before, you know, playing nice, sexy football with, you know, shipping one 17 plus at the other end and, you know, one 20 plus and losing games. It's just, for me, it's a most win for the current management. That still might not be enough for them. But, you know, we wish the players the best of luck. It's been a transition period. It is certainly good to watch. And I think they are learning not just mentally, but, you know, in terms of, and I do think you're right as well, you know, this time of year, that the sun beating down certainly isn't a hindrance. No, it definitely isn't. It definitely isn't. Look, we'll see what happens down here. I'll see what happens. Exactly. Kevin, let's move on. That turned into a bit of a debate. But let's move on to the hurling now, because these lads, and what can we say? Let's suppose go back a little bit to the Kilkenny match, because what a performance it was to actually pick up that sort of result against the kingpins of hurling. I mean, if we were to say in this affair, if Kerry came up and done what this Carol Hurland team done, if they actually come up from John McDonough and drew with Limerick. Kilkenny obviously got to the final in the last two seasons in a row. And if they come up, if Kerry came up and got a result like that against Limerick, it'll be front page news on every single newspaper and television station in the country. In fact, yeah, and it's been a massive frustration that this has been so undervalued and under aborted. Like we touched on it slightly with Paco last week. But as the week went on, you try to do your bit of homework on it. And I would say scour nearly every flagship GA podcast nationwide was there in the days after the game. And very few, if any, did a proper justice. To be fair to Eddie Brennan, I thought he was very good in how he brought this. He gave Carlo all the credit. He identified the work was going on. He didn't put in the party political lines. Nicki Brennan on Cooney Radio on Kilkenny was very, very obliging towards as well. We got due airtime, but we didn't get enough airtime in general. That's the big problem. Like the hurling pot in particular, I'm a big fan of the hurling pot. I have a lot of time for Will O'Callaghan. I think he's a great guy. But that particular week, we had a slobber and ochre of a car limerick. Again, we touched on this last week. It was over an hour given to that game. And as I said, the car played limerick 10 times. Well, you'd fancy them like 30% of the time, even though this is the greatest, arguably the greatest team of all time. We've seen with limerick. How many times will Carlo get a result against the Kenny? I would 10. I'm not so sure. So like, why then is it so underreported? Why is it so undervalued? And largely, why is the kind of line what's happened to the Kenny? This is where I'm not getting this. I just think it's a disgrace, to be honest with you, I don't think it's growing hurling. I don't think it's growing the game. We pay a lip service. We get Peter Forsen and Joe Forsen under Telly to talk about the state of the game. And we don't give it. It's still credit. I just think where we are and where we're looking to go and the steps that we're reporting in place, we need the media to back us on it. We need our dual time. I fell asleep during the Sunday game that earlier. I'm actually kind of on the verge of stopping watching it anyway. What I believe was about 10 or 15 seconds, the short of the car no extra game. This is just diabolical. And the weird roundabout, sick thing about it now, right, is that there's a certain element of like, "Wexford are seeing what this is like now. Galway are seeing what it's like. Okay, we've got a bit against the Kenny. Dublin are seeing what it's like." And further it on to the GA goal discussion. The car people are gone mad. Well, there you are, no lads. This is what we're putting up with for the last 30 or 40 years. Maybe you have like, I don't want to be putting it this way. But it is a kind of a case here on medicine. Now we can see we've an issue. And when all these counties are actually falling foul of it as well, then you see the noise has been made. But like, this is the way it's been for us for some time. And it's just not right. Look, obviously the crowd, obviously the crowd looked, there was over 7,000 people in it which go on park for the game against Wexford. Scarch and Heath, it was a big Wexford crowd there obviously. Only one of Carlos matches in the Lee McCarty, one of their five games in the Lee McCarty, this season will have been televised on either, well, we've had none on the, on RT, but you know, GA goal obviously covered the, the Cook any match. But I have to say, I agree with you. I think it's very, very poor all around. I think it's a massive missed opportunity in terms of, you know, the overall promotion of, in particular, Harlan for the smaller counties. I mean, just looking at the way it's structured as well, Tipperary got an absolute massive hiding at the weekend. And we'll touch upon it briefly. Now, if you're looking at the Munster Championship for the Lindster Harlan Championship and the Joe McDonald, how it all ties in, I mean, surely we shouldn't be dependent on a victory up a car again, park against Antrim, when Tipperary are shipping hide-ins like that in the Munster Championship. Surely, there should be a playoff. And on that evidence, I mean, if you're beaten Cook, Kenny, we didn't beat Cook, Kenny, okay, if you're drama Cook, Kenny, you're not what you call on park. And for me, at the moment, you're beaten Tipperary. If there was a playoff, and that was the format in terms of a relegation format. We need, we at least need to be, well, not we, obviously just a massive game with Antrim this weekend. The loser of Carl on Antrim needs to be afforded the opportunity to play the bottom team in Munster. There should not be immunity in Munster. It is just, it's like an apartheid movement or a colony. That's the way it is. And if you look at it a couple of years back with Kerry, now, I need to check the way the current landscape is, but there was a time where if Kerry won the genre on a cup, they had to play the bottom team in Munster. At the same time, if a Lindster team won it, they were going to straighten the Lancer around Robin. I think there was an ID in Munster and again, I had to check this that Kerry might go into the Lancer Championship if they won the genre on a cup. Now, that what happened this year, least now, if you're in the final, is this not like, I mean, Nelson Mandela went into South Africa to start out things like this, and we're like sitting here looking at all this going on. And I don't know what goes on in Congress or what doesn't go on, but this is simply not good enough. I mean, we're literally looking at active discrimination, but it's active discrimination in the wrong way. It should be active discrimination for the Lancer sites that they are giving immunity to stay up. I think we've completely lost their universe. I was, I agree with you. I mean, if you look at it, give us the opportunity or give us the opportunity to play a temporary. Why should they be immune? In fairness to Shane McGrath, he's one of the guys as well that I should mention that has been very, very strong on the weaker counties or so-called weaker counties over the past couple of weeks. He even said that temporary or the bottom team in Munster should have to play a playoff before they go down. He said, if they're good enough, they'll play at the bottom team in Lancer anyway. Let him prove it, he said. And he also said that the Carlo game against Kilkenny was completely overshadowed by Limerick and Kurt that evening. And that that was a phenomenal result. He said that, and he listened to it there today in fairness to him. He was one of the first people to actually say it, and I have him in high regard for that particular facet of it. I don't know. I think the optics of this are just horrendous. They're they're not good at all. I agree with you. I think our anthem should be playing temporary. Why is that there? Why do you have no, because they're protecting it? It makes money. And then they even take this weekend, Barry. All of a sudden, we were told on the one hand that there was a certain amount of games being shown in RT, and a certain amount of games being shown in GA go, "Well, how long does that put you?" "Well, where'd you look at that?" As the fella said, temporary and clear is one of your on RT News now on Sunday. The serious questions now. How do we miss them? Tip and clear on RT News now, and apparently there was a rights agreement that could not be buzzed from. Could not be moved from. Oh no, I should look at what tip is there on that. But you're talking about crowds, and obviously, you know, 7,000 at what's going on, the monster championship does attract big crowds. There's no doubt about it. But, you know, in simple stadium, in their home patch, Clark finds out numbered them five to one. So, I mean, Tipperary Hurland is not in a good place at the moment. And I absolutely, I just think there has to be a fairness and equality across the two provinces. I mean, you can't say a monster, don't have to play off a linseter. You know, the losers in linseter go down. I mean, if you're looking to develop the game, it has to be an even play and feel. I think there's major weakness, not just in that, but obviously, the coverage is getting. But that's that. Kevin, we have to touch upon the result. Obviously, Wexford and Carroll. What were the factors at play? And how do you explain such a different result this weekend? I am going to come back to Diego way to it because it did some homework, Barry, over the past week, a trial through the archives to look at figures, look at profits, look at deficits, x, x, y, and z, in relation to Diego, and in relation to the amount of games that we're showing. And it is actually quite interesting when you look at it. I will come back to that. Carroll Wexford the weekend. Look, the reality of it is in this linseter championship, there was always going to be a game where we were likely to shape a bit of a beating. Now, that's not exclusive to us, like, and some were going to be in the same boat. And if you look at, go down to the results in the monster championship over the last 10 years, there's times where monster teams get batons. Like, that happens. The thing is, we were expecting that height in half of the Kenny. Well, I was, I don't think you were. And you put a thing into our WhatsApp groups and we'll bet you Kenny, because we got a touch or half mad and we still do anyway. But like, it proved to be near and off. So how we didn't beat them, we were quite lost to it. What we didn't expect that on think was the height in the Kung from Wexford, because everyone spoke about whether it was directly indirectly. Don't think it was in the camp, but there was a hanker in that Dublin. Okay, we always thought we'd get on already against Armstrong, but it was a hanker in that the Dublin Wexford games are ones that we get something from. We nearly got something from Dublin, but we couldn't have really foreseen what Wexford wanted to bring the other day. They were simply phenomenal. And like, even from their point of view, it was a great pity that more coverage wasn't shown on this on the game of that. Some of the points they picked off were scanlessly go points. Like, I think they get 121 the first half. I would say somewhere in between eight points. One eight points without a wide. One eight without a wide. There you go. And like, I'd say there's a fair percentage of that points that came from inside their own 65 and trout the half, definitely nearly into double figures. Now, there's a couple of things on it, right? Wexford performed. It was a nine out of 10 performance, I would say, from them. Like, they were seriously on it. They were hot. We weren't. And like, I think from the get go, you could see where things might be a little bit tricky. So the very first ball that went in was a ball you'd open yourself when you were playing a full forward. Half the front of John Mike, all they do was put the part who would uncharacteristic, very uncharacteristic of him, popped off his hand, ball medical terrorial corner, 18 seconds on the clock over the bar. Now, our response was really good. Richie Cordy took the poke out. And within seconds, he'd have back over the bar, we intercepted their poke out and Chris not want to put it over again. Then we were two one up. It was an electric start. What turn there was, and it's very unfortunate, uncharacteristic of brain stress, he really is uncharacteristic. But he got his pocket picked with Arnold putting the back of the net, the tide turned and then things were happening. Like, Poco went to Richie Cordy, touched letting down, were spilling balls, mouse is missing freeze, all these things that we don't associate with car and over happening. And wexford are just honest and are missing, absolutely not. Rorio Connor, our big fan of Rorio Connor always have been. Chen gets the plot, it's deservedly saw. Rorio Connor is phenomenal. Like, I have him up there and I've had this along the side of him to be honest with you, different type of order of course. But like, he, he, six scores, absolutely six scores he was putting over. And on more civil spread of scores, I think they had 12 in the end, they were really good. The fact of the matter is, they were really good. We weren't. Now, if we were at our best, how close would we have gotten on that performance? I'm not so sure. I don't think we would have got within 10 points. I don't know. They were really good on the day. I just, I don't think there was too many teams actually to today that would have stuck with them on fire if I'm being brutally honest with you. Now, here's the other thing, temporarily actually can see the more than we did it today. There's a bag for you. I'm not surprised. Genuinely, because, you know, obviously the score line. If we're just like carpenter day on Maxwell's farm and Clark's farm, you'd have a game for the ages. Genuinely, I think they were, they were honest. They were really impressive. Just looking at that though, you know, I mean, when one team gets it's all right, and the other team are just not on it, you know, the difference. I mean, you, you, you mentioned, if we play Kenny 20 times, what would, you know, how many times would we beat him or get a result like we did? You know, flip that around and say, you know, I mean, if we played Wex for 20 times, how many times, you know, would we, would we get a result there? You know, I always got, sorry, jump across here. Leo has got, you know, we got the desire to elicit his match report, and he's got the previous chance of meetings in it. And while we think in our minds that Wexford are a different prospect, it's nearly worse than our previous meetings with you, Kenny. There you go. It's very interesting. Look, they weren't, they probably, you know, Keith Rossiter and his team knew that we were going to target this, you know, particular match for, for, you know, to get a result in a whole match. How much did the Kenny performance, even though Kenny were down to 14 men for an entire half, but how much still did that, you know, take out of the, you know, out of the carnal players? And I think the big thing that has been mentioned, not just at this year, but last year as well, I mean, our biggest weakness in terms of playing Lima, Karate Hurlin, is our squad depth. And you know, and has that just maybe caught up on us against Wexford? Dave got it right. Keith Rossiter had the plumber seat in the stand, I believe, he was able to see the carnal game plan, how much of an emphasis we, you know, we can see the puck out, you know, we know that. And, you know, Wexford, if they were going to, you know, get early scores and perform with it, they knew that we're going to have to shoot from distance. And I just think that's the big, big stat. You mentioned the early goal that they got, and a mistake by Brian, but I think, you know, one eighth without a wide, if Wexford come with that level of performance and that level of accuracy, it's all was going to be, you know, an uphill battle. Even look back to the German on a final last year, they melt the wides that awfully had from distance. And Kalkelli, uncharacteristically, against us in Dr. Colin Park, did chip plenty of wides. So you need everything to go right in games like that, probably didn't Kevin, but in terms of positives and, you know, I suppose individual performances who was the stand out kind of performance is against Wexford at the weekend. I'm going to pick up on that last point for us because it's very interesting. It's something I was going to pick up on myself in relation to the puck outs and in relation to us, you know, allowing teams to take 100 percentage shots like, yes, we saw it against awfully last year. We also saw it against Kalkelli. They were like, all right, we should look if you want to have a go from, you know, 65, or worse down there, like, you know, it's a breezy day. Best look to you. And percentages will show that a lot of those will go away. The issue was like, we were always, whether we were in the game or halftime or not that or that, our full back name was always destined to be murdered, not because they're inferior orders, not because they're not capable of winning the one to one battle. When you stand off on the puck out, and when you don't get back on trying to protect your full back lane, they're caught in a one to one situation with a heap of space. This is what I couldn't figure out. We go up a shore of Poco, but we also see a situation where we sort of a spare man, maybe in Carlos half. So how does, like, how can that happen? How you can't excuse that? Like, you're literally alone in the shore of Poco, and you're alone another man free in a dangerous area. We're like, all right, like, lads, if you want to do it, we'll put these over all there. And they did put them over all there. And let's look, we got our hand to it. It's like, just, that's the reality of it. Can we afford to do that against answer? I just wouldn't think so. I'd be, I'd be disgusted, especially in Corrigan Park, if we give up Poco. I think not quite them, like, make this a batch of making the wars on Hammer and Tongues. Performance is the other day. Look, it's very little to be optimistic about the other day. Like, being truthful about what it was, it was not a good performance. And the lads know that themselves. And I think it was always going to be difficult. Like, you think about it. You were each the pinnacle of your, literally, you're a hurling history. Like, you're the greatest ever result, drama to Kenny, the best team that ever played again in Lancer Championship action, right? That's literally top of the mountain. So how do you, what's, what's the way, what's the other way? What's the only other way? It's for a stone, isn't it? Like, it's not up, like, like, is there a best result in bore chords? I don't know. That's an interesting question. Like, we better open a Lancer of fine, didn't we, when we won that, like, so... Don't we learn our carry? Don't we learn our carry? Kenny, are the King Pins? No, listen, no, it definitely inherits us. A silly question, I suppose. But like, yeah, it's very hard to follow up on that, as I'm saying, and to hype around this, whether it's directly or indirectly, and the lads would have wanted that not to seep in, I'm not suggesting it did, but it's also very hard to avoid it. Wexford had an extra week. How much energy to take over us to get that performance against a Kenny? You know, how quickly can you recover? You touched on that. I don't believe we have a fantastic depth. I don't, and I think that's a common thing across the county, which is, like, it's another interesting point, because we've gotten rid of, not gotten rid of what there is currently players not on the panel who have been great servants to car lot. They might be the wrong side of 30. Would it be already 15 or 20 minutes at the end? Well, look, we've reported this with two or 36 roles, don't worry. We've reached the call in the middle of the field, and Jack Abner has been starting games for coming in. They're holding their own there. If you were Tom Malawi, who would you be calling? I wouldn't think they'd be acting wrong with 10 or 15 minutes out with David English, still. I wouldn't think they'd be acting around with 10 or 15 minutes out of Eddie Bourne. Of course, we don't know the circumstances around these guys not committing, but I wouldn't need to be acting around with Jack. Yeah, he stopped beside me on the bank today, like, he's lean as a butcher's dog still, and I know he's picked up his injuries, but, and again, like, it's been noted, this didn't come from him by the way, but if far it elsewhere, like, that his departure, I think the service that he's given to the county, arguably nearly the best corner back there were play for the county. He went out on a whim, disappeared, and I'm not quite sure if there was much communication there, to be honest with you. I'll put it to you that way, because that's as much of a factor as I know on it. What I don't know is that, which is, I wouldn't be letting a slip away that handy, or I wouldn't have been letting them slip away two years ago that handy, like, he keeps himself so well. George Cordy. George Cordy was our left wing back corner of the year, two years ago. He is Turkey or Turkey one years of age at the moment. He hasn't been there for some time. Michael Dale, up there with Alfie Corcoran, as a solid corner back on the, well, Alty with the county scene, Michael at the county scene, too, but definitely in the club, obviously, solid. He had his own reasons for the park, and, you know, he has his value. It's just arguing to be made, and sorry to tell you back, Kevin, but just, you know, I'm not sorry, because I think it's a very valid point. I mean, you can make this argument, certainly for the Harlem, but you can definitely make it for the football. So, it's, well, that's really, I think Barry is that these are players who have paid for the county, and have done for for quite some time in many cases, and money would be, okay, I would sort of no more to give, and it's a lot of commitment to give to be a big par player, and maybe that's a part of a two. The thing about the card above borders, and I don't like comparing the two of them, we're a small county, let's work together on it, but like lads that will work me for a year and then disappear. You know, these guys that I've named out are guys that have given great service, and probably don't always anything at the end of the day, but my point would be like, would it be a facilitation process? Like, no, no, we're seeing that we just can't be without them. We can't. And, you know, there is a couple on the football panel, like a student like a difference. Like, you're buying bricks to find a harder as you get in the county, right? And this has been a problem for years, but those lads I've named out in particular, would I like to see them coming off the bench of 10 or 15 minutes to go? Still, yes, a mid season, a mid season, a mid season panel of you and ballcords and, you know, five or six new lads introduced into the setup, you know, at this point in the season, what harm would it do? It doesn't always have to be military. That's it. Like, and again, I don't know the circumstances around all those individuals and what their reasons were for my plan. That's that's one thing we do with the put on record. What I do know is that those guys could make a difference, and we cannot be without them. And it has been something that has no progress over the past couple years. And that's the reality over the note, you know, at times that the chickens are coming home to roost, but Sunday is just massive. I mean, there's an nervousness around it from my point of view. Anyway, I mean, again, every time the chips are down and they weren't really down to their day. Let's be honest about it. Like, the chips weren't really down to their day, what they are this Sunday. And as history will kind of dictate, our lads in Harlan do not shy away when it comes to us. Like, we went up to awfully, I think it was 2019 the league, bet them up there in their own backyard. We had to win. Okay, awfully kind of put whoever team they did last year in the drama, it's a little bit better. We pulverized them and bet them and crawl apart when the chips were down. The whole congeus didn't go off in how great they were. We pulled the rug from underneath them. You can go back further. 2017, 2018, two appearances and crawl apart. We weren't favors against Androm and 17, definitely. It might even against West me, they can't remember. The nucleus to that side is still there. And those values are still there. This is going to be a monumental battle. Oregon Park, there is a four to six, four to six, and from six to four carol of 50 to two, the tie. Hmm. And the tie you will do, Androm, all Androm need is a draw. We have to win it. That's the way the table is working. So like, a career as Wexford discovered their detriment, like you go up there, write them off at your parl, it's not an easy place to get result. I don't know how we don't have to do it, but they tend to turn into some bit of a fortress. It doesn't seem it seems like a tradition of pitch. It like, I mean, that's just optics. I'm sure you measure a lot of these pitches. They're probably in their own the same size or they should be anywhere, but sometimes with whatever way it's enclosed, like a tennis McGrath Park would seem like a tie pitch. The old McGrath Park certainly would have caledavened might just because the walls are where I'm where they are. You've got to find it in, you think it's a massive pitch. The Super Bowl alone locked and rigid, you might think it's a massive pitch, but in reality, there's probably not a hole in it. But it seems to be a battleground in Corrigan Park. And, you know, they put up with decent enough performance against Galway. I think in the last 15 minutes, Galway has started to get a run on them, Andrew might have been sending off with Ryan McGarry. We haven't come off a good performance, like, and we have, literally, we're not seven days to get that right. Andrew had the extra day. And you might think that's been pedantic, but she's an extra day as a recovery after an inter-hounding game. Those make some way to be different. So, look, the book has had them as favors, rightly so. The one worry I think... Why rightly so? Well, they've been wexford and Corrigan Park. They've traditionally pulled big performances in their home ground in championship fixtures. Like you look at it down through the years, and even in league fixtures, Claire have struggled when they've gone up there. You know, Dublin have struggled when they've gone up there. The one who barely saw them off, like... This carol team, though, Kevin, you mentioned, you know, when the stakes are at their highest, this carol team have delivered over the course of the last three to five seasons, if you like. And in the biggest games, you mentioned the John McDonough final. You mentioned that the league game against Halfley. You know, even look back towards the big games, the Christie Ring finals, when we were playing at that level, John McDonough, I think it's this carol team delivers on the big day. And we've seen that time and time again. So I know you mentioned Antros record, et cetera. Would they got a result against Kilkenny, a Corrigan Park? When was last in the play, Kilkenny and Corrigan Park? It's a good question, I guess. Oh, that's absolutely nothing to fear. I think they actually enjoy these games and relish it. They've not deserved, but I have to say this now, and let's not pull the wall over anyone's eyes. For me, this isn't really the biggest game. It possibly is the biggest game in our entire history. I think this is a bigger game than last year's John McFinal. And I think there's more pressure on this in this game than last year's John McFinal. We've never gone up to Lee McCarty instead, though. To my recommendation anyway, we went straight back down in 2019 and look how long it took us to go back up here. That's reality over it. It is so, so difficult to get back. And the question, Mark, from a fan perspective, Kev, for someone who's been following this team, and what do you most enjoy watching about this carotene? What do you enjoy most? What do I enjoy most? There's a few likable traits. I love their honesty. And they're not cliches. I love their honesty. I love their attitude. Their skill set is phenomenal. That's something I think is very much underestimated and not spoke about enough. This is the last one you said. Skill set or honesty or attitude? No, the skill set, the honesty and attitude was always there with this team. But if you actually look at it, it's the most skill for the crop of hoarders we have ever had. I don't know that I get to mention the positive from the other day, Connor Kyo. Just if I haven't, I'll go back on it. Connor Kyo is our shining light the other day. He scored a goal again. I don't know what he finished with in total. Boy, he was a standout for me. I thought he was really good. And the improvement that he's made, I think he got taken off against binders down on the job, so he finally two years got half-time. I think he did. And if you look at how far he's come in the past couple of seasons and the influences that he's after having, these guys that have come to the fore are really skillful. Figur for his Patrick. Like he saw Risti. John Nolan, we missed him the last day. We missed John Nolan beat time. I thought we missed him against Kilkenny as well, to be honest, because... Yeah, he went off against Kenny. What point did he get? He went off against Kenny. An actual fact, I'll check it, because we have a report saying in front of us here on leftwingback.com. But he kind of slips under the radar for us a little bit. I know you're a big fan of his. He went off. When did he go off and again? He actually went off late and off. He went off on the 60-second minute, but he was quite in the game. I don't know if he was carrying an ochre or not. I think the athleticism, the skill set, the... His paw. The chemistry there, with that forward line, I mean, did I ever think Carol would be putting up scores like they did against Kilkenny? Or even awfully in the Joe McFine last year in my lifetime to see, you know, what the level and the skill set, that's the beating of this particular forward line. You mentioned to be early on the season, the Carol wing forward line, when at full strength, it's as good a wing forward line as there is out there, genuinely. And that's not being... I don't think we're over-exaggerating on that. No, no. It's said outside the county as well, like, any variation of a half-forward line that we put out is a serious one. Like, the other day, we had pace on the wings, we had feet of a spatula, Chris Nolan, and Connor Guillow's were half-warming. But you switch that around, you put mouse out there, you put patty balling out there, you put John Michael, you put Chris Nolan in there. Any way you want, I would ask six forwards, like, do you know that thing they used to do years ago? Whenever you get a score, you move on to the next position. I don't know if you were doing training, but I know it definitely matches what you used to do at one particular stage, think what it's full-fought. So I'll just say, for example, if you're right corner forward and you get a point, you would then go into full forward and everyone kind of merry-go-as-around in the six. Like, our guys have that flexibility, and they are that good. It's the best set of forwards I think we've ever had. Genuinely. Yeah, I think, so, I think, the fear of this Patrick this year has been a big, big, improver. I think you can play in the wing forward and you can play in the wing back line, and you can play in the center of the field. But if you actually look, you mention any variation and the versatility of each of those players, you know, to play in the wing forward and to play in the side, everyone that you've just mentioned there. That's the thing I enjoy the most about this carrot team, Kevin, is our ability to take scores from anywhere in the field and to be able to get goals. And that's why I think going to Corrigan Park, we've absolutely not in the fear, because do I think we can outscore Antrim on our day? Absolutely, we can. And I think you mentioned to me as well, you know, Dion this year, you know, what a revelation he's been in the center of the fence. Obviously, the horse came in at the weekend against Wexford. I'm interested to see who starts what the full back line is. What Dion and Paul Doyle, two of the most unassuming, full back, full backs that, you know, we've probably ever seen in the county. So I think, tend to be able to bring in the experience of Richard Cody as well. Obviously, he'd love to have some names that are not playing this year, the likes of obviously Sledge and etc. That's a big one to left out when I end up all the boys that aren't there. Forgot about that. I mean, he's such a key player. You know, like, we can't we can't catch him. Did you all have done a final and, you know, obviously the score, the important score, he got as well. It's massive, of course. We've absolutely not in the fear, six to four. I think that's a crack in place about Carol. You know, I'm a betting man. Oh, sure. Look, I know where they are. Like, yeah, I backed these guys to the hill, like, you know, and I do think, you know, there's a lot of doubters out there at the minute that don't think we're going to get results on there. I, I firmly believe we will get results on there. We will need a bit look at it though. You know what I mean? We will need to keep our discipline. Like, Carol and Andrew and Bowser do not like each other. Like, it's where they were neighbors. They do not like each other. I went up there a couple of years ago. I'm not going to say it was a blowback, but it was fairly hairy now up there. And Andrew got the result on today. I think it was possibly 2018, it was. But Carol and Andrew have bumped into each other quite a lot over the last 20 years. Yeah. Are there be timber broken up there to weekend, for sure? Oh, they're absolutely well, like, you know, and, you know, apart from we're kind of on a similar trajectory. If you look at us in a sense that like, you know, we've taken a couple of tankins, but at times and most of our games have been competitive. Like, Andrew Moore compared against the Kenny. We weren't competitive against Wexford. Dublin ended up giving Andrew, Andrew Mahakian, but Andrew Marinas for a large portion of before Dublin actually went and pulled away. Our trajectory is not too dissimilar. Like, you know, yeah, look, Camira. There's got to be, there's got to be very little in this. There will be. And honestly, I think the Pokémon ball, either way, will detert. James Doyle, we have to come back to him. He hobbled after the day. It's an interesting one. And I'm going to chat about Hoff, who will make your sometime, who I know has good insight on this for. James Doyle is the best athlete in the county. Harlan of football, but it would out. He's a pure athlete. He's a beast. He's got pace, agility, the whole art. And unfortunately, this year, he's picked up a hamstring injury. And now did already an ankle injury. I don't know how right or wrong he's going to be or how healthy he'll be for one to be better for us. Come, come Sunday. When you need him, he is a key player for us. Like, well, I always thought it was interesting that, like, Marperen was another example. Two of them incidentally, vegan, decency. And an awful lack of, of picking up injuries at times. I was just thinking to be online. How does that work? But, you know, Mickey always got a very good theory on why that is the case. I know he's going to be on with us in a couple of weeks. I'll go on well to maybe discuss the ins and outs of that. So I won't spoil it on us. But he is a key player, as is John Nolan. We need those guys to be spoke about depth. A lot of the could actually come down to their availability. It might sound naive to say it. But like, if you're coming down the stretcher, and you need to bring in a couple of boys, or alternatively, if you need someone to lay down a marker and give what they can, we need those two. Like, it's not a point in saying, we're going to go up there and be answering, but we're not doing it. We're not doing it. There was a topical conversation just heading into the Kenny match, like where we save it a little bit in reserve for the home stretch, when you're bringing in the quality that we did bring off the bench. James Dow will be one of them. Or, you know, the start, which are best 15. Or do you need to keep a little bit back for the latter part of the game? It's an interesting talk and point of thinking itself. But yeah, can't wait for a Bowser. I believe you're heading up. You have the flares, the flags, the Senegal flags. Yeah, we're going to be, we're going to go up there and look pretty much up. Ken's harp. Oh, Leo, yeah. Maybe so. Maybe on the way back, anyhow. Leo, I'm a golfer. We've been doing the article and we'll catch a couple of videos all along. Well, I didn't do videos every day. I don't like doing videos when we get hiding like that. Just leave the lads alone the other days where you can talk to them. So we hopefully are going, we'll get that done. Just to go back to the coverage on it, like. So it's the only lenser game this weekend that doesn't have coverage. But there's jeopardy in it. There's massive jeopardy in it. And it will be a choice game. It will be entertaining. And there's no coverage of it. So don't believe in Galway is on TV. Can you wait for the San Diego? Our game is not covered at all, right? Another failing in my view. Now, I told you I was coming back to GA go and coming back to stats. Go on, give it, give it, give us the stats. So it was in the back of my mind that in 2021, when lockdown hit, that GA go went and streamed almost everything for a period of time. And it was proven correct in 2021. Jordan League from division one down to division four. A lot of these games were covered in actual fact. Yeah, the line shared a more. So then I'm looking at an article from the Irish examiner, which was the 28 November, 2023. And it goes as follows. Prophets of GA go, the match stream and joint venture between RRT and GA was caught nearly in half during 2022. As subscription revenue dropped and operating costs increased, according to GA go media limited financial statements for 2022, subscription revenue dropped to 2.3 million from 2.8 million in 2021, while operating costs increased to 1.43 million from 1.32 million. Now, I have a theory on that. My theory is that in 2021, a lot of those games didn't come with a full production setup. And by that, I mean, it didn't come with trader for cameras, with a presenter and three pundits, a commentator and an analyst. It came with one camera, one commentator, and they don't the job. So my reading on that, and it is just a take on it, the figures went down. Why did the figures go down? Well, the figures went down because there was less of an offer in there. They taught with the remainder of games that they were going to show that they needed a full production setup. So that's where the cost obviously went up. And like you look at it and you think to yourself, it made a profit in 2021 by showing a lot more of games, and yet they trimmed back the offer. So I can't really figure out why that is, right? Now, the other thing that interests me down in all this, if you go to the GA go website and I have this here, it's in the help section. Why is my game not being shown? And I call it from the GA go website. All televised GA championship and league games as well as selective trouble. Other 20 and minor games will be shown in GA go. Not all games that are played throughout the country on any given day will be out on television. This is due. Now, this is the line that gets me. This is due to limited crew equipment and resources. Resources being the key word as well as linear TV broadcasting capacities. So if you're reporting millions of revenue generation and a profit in 2021 of almost 519,000. Where is your issue with resources? This is what I can't understand. Like, for me, this sums the whole thing up, please. Well, you're talking about resources. And again, I don't want to be personal here, Kev, but if you're talking about resources, you know, Bob is the wire, own category and shame is hickey. I mean, we'd rather just have a commentator after the coverage they give. And you know, with Carol or John, we could Kenny, the best result in the county's history. Jenny Whitey, I'm just being fair and honest about it. I thought, you know, who needs to hear that? Now, could Kenny work well out of sight before the game was even played? The only game shown this season in Lee McCarthy, after everything that we fought for last year to come up and play Lee McCarthy, to go to extra time to take Offley down the stretch, my question would be if Offley had won that game last year, how many games would they have had televised on either GA go or it's on the game? Yeah, I think it's a valid point. I think it's a very valid point. And, you know, how long has this been softly won that early? It was in 1998. You know, a wax room one in '96, but yet there was this thing that All Wexford has non-believable, horror in county. Yeah, they won the lens for 2019. Last thing, the one on earned TV is nearly in black and white, the same as Offley. Like, why is there such a fixation towards those two as as county? The resource that he can make a very valid point, though, Kev, you know, what does it actually cost to have a commentator and a camera or a couple of cameras or whatever? You know, you don't actually need analysis because you can do that. And they proved it themselves by going that route in 2021. They had this there in front of them. I remember, like, a guy that we would know quite well, Gavin Cauley doing again for GA go, a commentator, a TV screen, a payroll, a people getting to look at the game. I don't think there was many people giving out about that particular offering. So it's there. It's it's making money. Why then regress and not go at the blanket coverage? You know, this, I don't know. It's it's bigger's belief. The 42.ie actually had the article in January 2022. No plans for blanket coverage of 2022 league games on on. Speaking about Offley, the Offley will have more RT coverage than Carla will this year. They're playing the job, McDonough. Yep, there you go. I finally will be on RT. Yeah. Yeah. Did you get that one? Yeah. Well, look, come here. It's we have been short changed. We've been very much our changed. And I've given the facts there. I've given the references of credited sources. And it shows that there's an active business model. It shows that there's a demand. It shows that it makes money. Why would you opt to go back to an agreement where you limit your offerings, your foreign image or profits, and have to upscale on your resources? No, dating people need a full-scale production sale. They don't. They put it to themselves, listen to the people. And I said it before and I said again, generally, during the president's term, you get one real issue to tackle. Now, at this moment, we're in a crisis point with coverage. And people say integration is important. And it is important to an extent. But right now, in the-- Integration, but what? The tree organizations integrate. Apparently, this is largely where a lot of the focus may be during Jarliborne's tenure. Jarliborne's didn't say that himself. Reading between the lines, that seems to be where there might be a real interest. For me, the thing that will define Jarliborne's tenure as president is getting this particular issue correct. And from what he has said recently, I'd have my doubts as to whether this whole product is going to change. And I think it will define how successful he is or isn't as present. And just finally, before wrapping up on that, Kev, what alternatives are there for the GA? I mean, you know, just to read around. But in terms of rights, and in terms of how the GA can get it-- Think about it, right? This is a giant venture. I have no issue with GA at all, by the way. The only issue I have is that it's a giant venture between G and RTs. Essentially, GA has sold themselves the rights and brought an RT with them. It's a 50/50 split in the profits. So from a regulatory authority point of view, there will be question marks over. Now, I know there was an investigation done, and they found that that was OK. So what can they do? Well, we know it's not feasible for RT to show all the games. So therefore, there is a couple of different viable options. Bring in the other network providers that are out there. Like Origin Media said last year, and it's there on record. RT or GM we have questions to answer over the whole rights issue. But what you left with then? Tier out the rights. You could tier out the rights. Let the highest bidder have the four steps and whatever game is on the weekend. And then just to say, for example, that was RT. Let them get four-speed. TZ Carter. I give TZ Carter four-speed was to give any other four-speed or the best coverage by a mile by the way. TZ Carter, Virgin all-em. Tier it out. Get advertisers on board and do it that way. However, game is free. What's the other alternative? The other alternative is this GAS subscription model. GA goes subscription model. But in order for it to work, you have to put all the games on it. At the moment, we're falling between two students. We're later hearing it out with it. And we're making an absolute pig's ear of it, in my view. And basically, to call it out on resources is crack of a car to be polite. I think it's a cop-out, to be honest with you. I think it's a complete another cop-out. And it's just the most, there's more politics and core parts as we know, as there is in the dollar times, right? But at the end of the day, the reality of it is, we say one thing we do in order. I don't say we as a million unit. I mean, the organization says one thing and the other. Well, I think the bottom line, if you're to type into Google, the population of each of the counties in Ireland, population by number, you'll see where Carola ranked, and you'll see. I genuinely think if you actually step back from the situation and look at how they're actually deciding upon the counties, I mean, Dublin and Antrim, for example, people campaign and journalists who are well respected in the media coming out and looking for Dublin and Antrim to be placed on TV over Carola, saying that there's very little at stake. And then Carola come out and get the best result in their hurling history. He's one over-neurite, that's my issue. Why did that particular-- Well, populated areas, big populated areas. Obviously Dublin and Antrim would Belfast be in the deficit. That particular individual wanted to make a real statement. He would be making the statement that why I bought it among the heli. I think that was a poor take that individual took on it, to be honest with you. Yeah, I'd agree with that. But look, it's anywhere. Yeah, but look, we'll wrap it up there, Kevin, under coverage. Move around quick, because you have to touch upon a course, the ladies as well, the ladies senior football team, obviously, in the lens, their final disappointment. Yeah, look, they have made fantastic progress this year, winning the league and they went in with high hopes to a more park on Sunday. We're beating by a little 210 to 105. We'll let the finder season, I don't think so. Like, the lens for championship is kind of a microwave format for one to the better way of putting it. It's been off over two or three weeks. Genoa, maybe the men could learn from it and put it at the start of the season and play it off over two or three weeks, because we can see that the appeal of it now has waned, which is not a risk to a course. Well, no, look, it didn't work out for the man today. I don't think it'll define their season. I think they'll bounce back in the all-earn in series, which of course is up common. The Carlo Komogitim are out this weekend. They have a difficult enough assignment in the all-earn in the media championship against L'Kenny in Callan at two o'clock on Saturday. So we wish them the best. They've had a kind of turbulent start of the season with the manager of the park. But I think the wheels are back on the wagon again now. The go-to players this weekend, Kev, to keep an eye out for. Yeah, well, sure, look. I mean, it's nearly the same old servants that have put the shoulder to the wheel in Kumogit circles. Like, you know, L.R.S. he's been flawless from freeze. Kate Nolan's been in there with the team now. I don't know, is there an injury or some description kind of with that, but I know one of the games she played, I think, was possibly against down in the start of the year. She got a goal in the first minute and a full forward. When you can afford to play a center back as good as that full forward. I mean, if you're a harder, you're a harder. And she is a very good holder. You know, you're always in with a chance. Michelle Nolan leading the line, like Anna Brinder, has been very good in the half-back line. Ava Kieran is important in good shifts in around the middle of the field. They're a good side. It's definitely a new Carlo Komogit side. I would think over the past couple of years. But, you know, at the same, the older Live is there. I don't like saying that now about women. But the older Live is there and they're still putting it to good stead. But that would be a difficult one against the Kenny, especially down there. Yeah, super kev. Well, look, that wraps up the left-wing back podcast for this week. Thanks very much for having me. The axe was wheeled. There was total step down. I hope we didn't offend anyone. It's all in the best interest of Carlo G.A. And yeah, listen, best of luck, obviously, to the footballers against Wicklow, the holders upcoming in Carnegie and Park against Antrum. And yeah, thanks very much to the Packers. Once again, of the left-wing back podcast this season. Without your support, obviously, it's not possible. Talbot Carlo, Art Spaz, obviously, yeah, there's a big, big mention. Paddahorn photography, some fantastic shots every single week for all the big matches in that network column park. Cora sports, property partners, Pory Dunn motors, obviously, a PFD travel. Ray Wheeler, limited, and you can't forget Shane Murray in the Hilltop Balamarphy. Pretty big sessions of upcoming there over the summer period. And of course, lots of more opportunities, Kev, to get involved in terms of sponsorship opportunities. Lots more hatred this season. Absolutely. And forward, left-wingback.com is the email address or send us a DM at the left-wingback on social media, where you can follow us. That's where it's all at. For us, Bozer, thanks a million. We really enjoyed the chat this evening. We might have you back again. Thanks Kevin, best of luck, well long, keep up the work.
