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Women's North American Championship Qualifiers | WWE NXT 5/21/2024 Full Show Review & Results

Duration:
1h 50m
Broadcast on:
22 May 2024
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Alex (@AlexSourGraps) and Kate (@MissKatefabe) review tonight's episode of NXT, including:

-Joe Coffey vs. Wes Lee vs. Josh Briggs in a Triple Threat to become No. 1 contender to the NXT North American Championship

-Thea Hail vs. Fallon Henley in a qualifying match for the ladder match to crown the first NXT Women’s North American Champion

-Brinley Reece vs. Jaida Parker in a qualifying match for the ladder match to crown the first NXT Women’s North American Champion

-Natalya and Karmen Petrovic vs. Shayna Baszler and Lola Vice


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Well, this is the NXT post show for Tuesday, May 21st. Normally, this is where I'm like, get in your super chats and get in your humper chats. But I feel like that's getting redundant. So I'm going to say, get in your soupies, get in your humpies to get your question or statement right on there. Also, leave a thumbs up on this video to help people find us in the algorithm. And yeah, subscribe to Fightful Select.com, my monitor's tweaking out again, but we're going to see how it goes. There we go. We're back. We're normal now. Everything is fine. Everything is A-O-K. Everything is just fine, unlike the booking industry. Well, no. Then we go to our slogan here that everything sucks, but we, I guess, do have Corey Brennan, who has changed his mind several times about whether he was going to be here or not. He probably just didn't want to get called a coward, which is understandable because this was a double tape episode, which is where his cowardice began. But we'll bring Corey on. Hi, Corey. The coward. How are you? We can't hear you, dude. They're muted. We didn't even mute you. I know. There we go. I almost forget to do this. Yeah. That's fine. I'm okay. Tired. That's why I kept changing my mind. Kate, you continuously forgot to mention that I come on here at 3 23 a.m., which I think gives you. It sounds like a problem. I mean, really, honestly, get a different time zone, Ireland. Yeah, literally. Just be in a different time zone. It's not my fault. The UK has such a weird time zone. I'll prove my entire life just for the sake of just the scoops for the scoops, man. But we do have a couple of things to talk about. I know there was some Australian talent that I was geeked out to hear about that got some great tryouts and results from those tryouts that we can let you speak to a little bit. And also the bigger thing about Julia kind of feels like an optimistic timeline of wrist fracture unfortunately in her matches, not only potentially missing NXT dates, but there's a Hanukkomura tribute show that she will definitely not be making, which is an absolute bummer. But Corey, I'll let you contextualize a little bit of what went up on Fightful Select, if I could talk. Yeah, Julia, obviously, well, not so much Julia. Marigold said everyone kind of interruptures this morning because I woke up, checked my phone. I heard about 50 messages asking me what was going on with Julia. Yeah, she did suffer a fracture to her right wrist. It's not a major fracture. Like some people did seem to think she'd be out for quite a while. It's about six weeks recovery time for the fracture that she did end up having happened to her. The thing is it's very, see, a wrist injury, as we all know, is a lot different to a lot of other injuries. Look, Bandido, for example, he's been out for over a year, I think, at this point. That could be an exaggeration. But, yeah, WWE are still hopeful that she can be recovered in time for July 7th, where he went. They do want it to be Roxanne versus Julia. And yeah, that's kind of really all that I could really get there. It's kind of a take as she recovers, kind of thinking everyone's body recovers differently from injury. I can't really put an exact timetable on that. I think we'll know more after battleground or even at battleground, we might know more. I don't think they'll wait too long to really shoulder cards with Julia. I think she's going to be such a big part of the brand that even with the injury, they're going to want her on television before she does make her debut. So, yeah, the post and selectors have a lot more other details, guys. This is a post I've kind of had in the works for a little while now, obviously, which is we have so much news going up that some things just get pushed on the back burner for a little while. And Julia's story was one of those and obviously her injury did speed up the coming out. So, yeah, not really much to say about that. Sure. And he wave is in about seven weeks, so it will probably be down to the wire as far as people will be able to know the chat pointing out, and it's a good point and something I thought of too. If you've seen her offense, a risk injury is a tough one. Like she throws some hard hitting arms with leading with that risk, that's for sure. So, best best to her, that sucks. That's a very unfortunate development for her, for the brand, for Mary Gold, for everybody. So, we just wish happy healing thoughts to her and that she comes back on whatever timeline she needs to selfishly for fans. We, of course, wanted to be before Heatwave, but risk injuries, like you said, can be a nag. So, we will see, but some news that I was excited to hear about. Some Australian tryouts seem to be coming to fruition, a town that I'm particularly excited about and have been following a little bit had their last show in Australia. And I said, "Cory, this person had a tryout and had their last show and I think it was their first interview in Australia." Seems like maybe some handwriting is on the wall, they'd be crazy not to get this one if you're a fan of Rhea Ripley, I can't imagine you won't be a fan of Delta. Any updates on her, just rumors and speculations or anything more concrete than that? I've heard of a couple of names that definitely impressed out of the tryouts. Delta was large in a way, the most kind of standout name of the tryouts, that's the name that kept popping up. As far as I'm aware, she is going to be part of the next class. I haven't been able to completely confirm that she's 100% signed as of right now, but she is expected to report to the PC as part of the next class or performance center trainees. Obviously, as was mentioned in the Julia report, Julia will be the face of that class, the primary talent on it, but there will be several names from the Australian. I've heard that there is going to be a couple of US-based indie names that will be reporting to the PC as well. I haven't been able to get any names in general, but it does seem like that class is going to be more independent outside WWE talent rather than NILF, like last few have them. There have been some outstanding talent, and I'm excited to see who else comes over from the Australian class, but if that isn't seen, you are sleeping on, you should not be there incredible, but Delta Brady, definitely one that you should be following at Delta Brady underscore. It doesn't take much to realize this woman is a star in the making. Just one look at her, and then you get to see her in action, and you will be sold. I promise you that. So that's something that I was particularly geeked out about. I love Delta matches, Her match with Jessica Troy, another Aussie standout worth checking out for sure. But Corey, anything else that you wanted to talk to us about today? Not really guys. The only thing really I do want to mention is NXT related. I'm not sure when this will go up, but I will have an NXT Europe update at some point soon. It's kind of the same thing as usual guys. It's been very little movement, and I did talk to a lot of talent who talked that they would be part of an NXT Europe. So I will have stuff to do with that in that report. Other than that, not really much else's report, obviously with the double taping, it was due to the fact that there is crew members under his agents flying out to Saudi as part of King, Queen, the ring and Smackdown. That's the primary reason. It's mainly due to the fact they want to get it all edited, all everything sorted already before everyone leaves. That's mainly why. And other than that, there's not really much else in NXT news, obviously, Julie was the biggest thing right now. So yeah. >> Sure. So subscribe to Fightful Select.com, Corey has the rundowns when he doesn't feel like being a coward and when it's not a double taping, that stuff was obviously public. Not a scoop, as you could just deductive reasoning kind of lead you into some things. But Corey, thank you so much for coming on. I'm just gonna pull this up because it's about Brady and Delta and that rules. I'm so excited. [LAUGH] Hopefully, she is signed, sealed, delivered. But we look forward to whatever comes out of that Australian class, hopefully, in the next class in general. So thank you Corey for coming on. >> No problem. And before I did go, one last time. >> Okay, well, no, we'll just go ahead and get him out of the time. >> So Jambeard asking if Corey can say 23 for me. >> I'll bring him back. >> I can't say that. Don't ask me to say that. I'll just send him an embarrassment. >> No, I think that's the point is that they want you to embarrass yourself. >> Yeah, yeah. Kind of like a you embarrass yourself and you tell Lyra wasn't gonna win. >> I mean, she shouldn't have. >> Oh, Corey's gone, no, no. So the original, the usual, hello's. >> Yes. >> Did I click on that or did you click on that? >> I'll probably meet by accident. >> I didn't do that. Your dad says, "Happy Tuesday to Team Kaylax, Supermodel Luis, Lucinda Curdlefono, the beard, the sisters, the council, Hair, Norma, and Honorary Elizabeth, JW, Pringle, PS, everything sucks. It does. It does. >> My dad's a very wise man. >> It does. Do you want to know what my parents did this weekend too bad? I'm gonna tell you anyway. So they're supposed to go to New York because they had this cool thing where you could dig up tulip bulbs that were on, I forget about Avenue, I think Madison Avenue. >> Mm-hm. >> And you could like take them home, which rules, but by the time they got there, they were all gone. So they drove all the way in, like in their gardening clothes to dig them up in every box from like 54th to 86th street was just already dug up and gone. Just terrible. What a waste of a trip for my poor parents. I mean, they got to see my sister, which is cool, but yeah, it's true. >> Jeez. >> Yeah. >> Big bad apple. >> Jember is saying that bird lady flew higher than the moon. She was certainly pushed higher than the moon to the moon. >> That makes for us camera grimes. >> It sure does. So we were, we had a cliffhanger last week, okay? >> We did. >> We did. >> I'm going to say best wishes, a speedy recovery, just recovery, full recovery to Ivar. >> Yeah. >> To Hansen from the original, from Hansen in a row of war machine, he, because Eric also out with what could very well be a career ending injury. This could end up being a career ending injury for Ivar. It's a serious back injury. This second spinal injury that he's had, and they used a backstage attack to write him out of the program for the North American title. If this is the end of an era for the quote unquote Viking experience in WWE, it's, it's, it's sad. It's bittersweet. >> Very much though. These have really long career outside of WWE before they showed up in NXT. They were booked as absolute monsters the way they probably should have been the entire time on in the main roster. Did they hold the titles at any point in the main roster? Cuz I don't remember them doing so. Maybe they were like raw chaps for three weeks, I don't know. But I, I, I, I, I, I will miss them. >> Yeah. >> This is, this is it. And if, if I was able to come back or just Eric or both, it would be wonderful. But like that, that genuinely made me sad when I heard that like he had to like go away for, for some serious surgery again. Like you go on, you get a spinal surgery and you're able to come back from that. That's awesome. They beat the odds. But then you re-injure your spine, and you go for another spinal surgery. I mean, who knows? At this point, just you want to be able to walk around when you're 60? You know what I mean? So like that's, so when I say a full recovery, I would love Hanson, the man Ivar, to be able to play with his grand Viking babies. You know what I mean? >> Sure. >> Like I want that for him. If, if that's, that's what I would like for him. If he wants to come back, if he feels like he's a full recovery, he wants to come back again. Godspeed. I would love to watch him do that. Maybe no more friggin' doom salts. >> Yeah. >> That's a lot of, that's a lot of jarring of a big man. Like you know, yeah, I, I, I, I fell off a chair the other day, didn't feel good. I'm, I'm big. And so like falling from a very high height, I feel like it really hurt, very jarring. You know what I mean? So. >> We're going to get into, I fell off a chair in a minute, but playing with my daughter. So I- >> You fell off a chair in the restaurant? >> No, it was just a big overstuffed chair in the living room, and we were playing around and I reached for something I shouldn't have. >> That'll do it. >> So. >> I'll do it, yes, the war raiders turned, Viking experience turned Viking raiders. One of those teams that never really feels like they got their full due, but was always extremely impressive. One of the first newer era matches that I saw of ROH was the last tag match that they had in ROH. And it was, it was pretty special and was against a Shaqiv. And my now friend, L.S.G., what they were tagging together, and I was just blown away by that match and what they could do in it. And so excited to see what they were able to do in NXT, and they weathered some creatives. They weathered some Vince playing basketball for no reason as raiders, creative. But always, always, always so impressive in the ring, just wish the best for the health first. But it feels like we are in such an injury, bug, wave across both both companies and beyond, right? >> Yeah. >> So just the best for them and to your point, life first, wrestling second, hope they're okay. >> Yeah, for sure. So apparently you have asked for Viking and seafaring puns in the chat, and the chat is defying you and doing bird puns to spite me. So I guess we'll read both things, but we implore you to honor the fallen who's on his way to Valhalla in Asgard, to honor Ivar to give us Viking and seafaring puns. But if you would so choose, you could spite me, particularly in a battle that I have now and lodged in with Corey Brennan. >> I mean, it is very in the vein of sauerkraps to spite you, so I do appreciate it. But I also feel like we've done bird puns before, I don't think we've ever done Viking secrets. >> We've definitely done boat puns, because Natalia has been on the show far too many times. >> Sure, but we've never done like, like, seafaring, like, yeah, well, so that's good. So that was part of the closing angle last week where there was supposed to be a triple threat today between Ivar, Briggs, and Wesley, but they were all attack backstage and apparently Ivar got the worst of it, so he's tease out. So they replaced him with Joe Coffey, who led the attack against him, but I did appreciate how they said that like, it was because Wesley and Joe Briggs requested it. So that they were, you know, able to get revenge on the guy who attacked them. So yeah, I guess, I don't usually like the like, well, you attacked this person specifically so you could get into the match they were going to have. And we will reward you for your act of violence with the thing that you want. I appreciate that they, it wasn't Ivar's decision, it was Wesley and Briggs both wanted him in there. I liked that they did that, that's good, that's a good thing, do more of that, making things make sense. It's always good. Yes, it is, and sometimes a rarity around these parts. But that was good. Wesley is such a sincere promo. So I'm glad that he is back because I feel like we don't get a lot of grounded stuff, but I was watching this episode and thinking about last week, like how he, when he got interrupted it was just like, oh, brother, I missed stuff like that. So I like, I'm just glad he's back in general, but this was good. It made sense, a good person to throw in this, but as we're going to talk about in a little bit, why is Joe Coffey going after two titles? Well, no, yes, we will definitely talk a lot about that. next chewy says it was my birthday on Sunday, here's birthday De Niro. So next chewy to celebrate his own birthday gives us money. I wish that is now the new standard. If you have been born, you owe us money. You owe us money. It's the birth tax. We will collect. That's right. Now, that is very kind of you. Happy birthday. My birthday was last week. Are you also 24? I have so many questions. We had a birthday. We had a graduation from high school. Yep. Yeah. It's a big month. Yeah. Tom LaValley says best show of the week until Osprey on Sunday. We'll do different kinds of shows. Our show today is the best show of the week until Osprey has his show. That is correct. We're basically the Will Osprey podcasting. What a reasonable thing to say out loud. It's the truth, though. You should never, ever like don't sell yourself short. No. We're the Will Osprey podcasting. We're so elevated. We started out the matches tonight with Thea Hale and Fallon Henley in the whatever the qualifier thing is. I don't even know what this is. It's not a tournament. They keep saying it's a bracket style event and I'm like, come on. It's a tournament. It's not a tournament. These are whatever. They're going to get us qualifying matches. They're a series of qualifying matches to get into a ladder match that were determined by a combine that yielded numbers that we don't know how they arrived to. That is what this is. We got all of ChaseU and Ridge Holland coming out to support Thea Hale at ringsite. Fallon Henley out there by herself. At what point Fallon Henley decides she's going to bring a chair into the ring and Ridge Holland grabs it away from her. And the referee doesn't see Fallon Henley pull the chair out. He sees Ridge Holland holding the chair and immediately the referee is like, I believe with my heart that you are going to hit a woman with a chair, Ridge Holland. So you have to leave. Like he was immediately like, Ridge Holland holding a chair. That woman isn't safe. Get the hell out of here, Ridge Holland. Aye, your reputation proceed. You are pension for violence and your chair pervert friend Sean Spears. You and you and you, since you associate yourselves with this untrustworthy chair fellow, you all get to leave as well. Ah, get the hell out, which then leaves Thea Hale alone and she tries to put on the Kimura. Fallon Henley has a really smart idea, which is to roll out of the ring and then smash her back into the barricade. And then Thea Hale looks up at her and screams. Yeah, she is enraged. She screams. And Fallon Henley gets into the ring first and Thea Hale follows her and Fallon Henley runs the ropes pretty fast. I don't know. Was that the best thing she was at the Combine? Because she ran the ropes and then hit a shining wizard before Thea Hale could stand up. So she was the best. She scored a check plus at shining wizardness. Yep. There was some good stuff in here. I liked Fallon with that like wrist lock arm bending thing that she had in the middle of it was really, really good. Thea's forearms were not the best of this. I think the Kimura angle also did not help that out at all. But this was a fun match and they gave it time. They gave it like a full 10 minute, which was good. But mostly this felt like it was also I liked Thea Hale having chase you gear, but it feels like this woman's qualifying match was about Ritalin. I just don't. I don't know why he's trying to get into the school. Yeah. Did he apply and not hear back? Was he waitlisted? He's so friends with Sean Spears, he just went away to produce it, not be on screen anymore. Sean Spears is just a producer now, not a wrestler anymore. Yeah, like what? I don't know. I love Sean Spears and I want to see him wrestle. So after the match, Jasmine Nix, again, she's got extra letters where they shouldn't be in the wrong ones. So she comes in and attacks her, attacks Thea Hale, beats her up. And then backstage, she says, congratulations to fell in Henley. It's nice that you wised up and you know, realized that you don't really need friends, which is why I deliberately let you win the match and then attack her. So you wouldn't think we're friends or whatever, which I, okay, cool. I guess, you know, fell in Henley and Jasmine, Nix aren't best friends now. I don't know how long Casey Jens can be able to broken nose. But found moving on, I don't have a problem with, I would say both of the women should be in the ladder match. Yeah. But they're doing some dumb stuff, like they're doing a thing with, with all of Chase you right now, like a thing is being done with them. It's not what I would do. And it's, I think it's dumb and bad. But like, Thea Hale will be on the show doing other things and not being apart. She's, Thea Hale is very young. And I don't, I don't think God, please, no, I don't think there's a danger of them calling up Chase you at any point in the near future. So like, she will hold the North American women's title at some point, almost certainly. She just won't be the first one to do it. So you know what I mean? That makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah. And she's someone who should be chasing anyway, like she should not win an inaugural belt probably. She's super young. The fans love her. Her whole energy should be, should be a chase for her first title win. And I wouldn't be surprised if she goes after Julia to at some point, like there's, there's a lot of things that could happen. I mean, treat to see where Julia ends up as far as the face dynamic. I don't want her to be either. I just want her to rock people and let people decide how they feel about it. I want her. I want her to mess up both heels and faces and just let everyone in the audience decide how they feel about it, you know what I mean? I feel like it should be almost like how goonther or over femmy is for the women's division. Yeah. I'm 100% with that. Yeah. Luis says that Fallon won the mooda scale of shining wizards, which he acknowledges is not a thing. But if it did, it would rule. Yeah. Thank you, Luis, for your comment. Later backstage, Rich and, and Riley Osborne, Malzy Rouseborn, one of the two Osbornes or Miles, whatever, they, they are yelling at each other backstage about who's at fault. And Riley can't, he's like, he can't be trusted. It's because he held the chair. That's why we all got kicked out. And if we had been there, then, then Fallon wouldn't have been able to win clean, which is what she did. Right. Like, if she had cheated to win, maybe we would have been able to help thea, or if, if Jasmine Nyx had attacked thea during the match, you could say we would have presented that from happening. Right. You'd been out there. But thea just lost. She just lost. She tried her komura, Fallon Henley had a really good counter to it. And Fallon Henley ran the ropes fast enough to hit a shining wizard because thea hail was too slow, getting back into the ring. That's none of that has anything to do with any member of ChaseU besides thea hail. So Riley being pissed about all of this doesn't make a lot of sense. Ridge, like, and then, like, thing is like, no, don't fight, everybody should be happy. And then, like, you know, and, and then Andre Chase being like, this is not how we're going to do it. We're going to settle things in the ring. And I guess that'll be next week. But then Riley walks away and Ridge is still there. And then Duke, who's been standing in the back, not saying anything, steps forward and goes. And then Andre Chase goes, Duke, not now, damn it. I think either Duke Hudson, the actual person who plays the part of Duke Hudson, has Laren Gigitis, or it's a gag they're doing as a rib on Duke Hudson, who's one of the best talkers they have in the entire company, to not allow him to talk. Because this is the third week, I believe, in a row that Duke Hudson has been standing around in the back of the whole thing and not said a word. It's not a rib on Duke Hudson, it's a rib on me. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just want to hear Duke Hudson talk and watch him kickass in the ring. He's really, really good, and they keep missing the boat on him, it's rude. He's such a natural talker, and he's so good, and at one point he was the focal point of this whole thing, and then they were like, nah. And now he just walks around with the trophy, like, come on, man, get him in the ring, let him talk some shit. I don't know why Miles Born and Riley Osborn don't have a tag team called Born Supremacy. Mm, that's nice. I'm a genius. That's good. That's actually a really good name, and I, of course, would name them Miles E. Rilesborn. Well, yeah, no, of course. That's much better. We don't name people good things here, we just name them things that pop up. Yours is good, I like that one. Thank you. I like that one a lot. Good duck hunts and see the chat knows, free duck. Free duck. Free duck. At least allow, allow duck to quack. Allow duck to quack, just a little bit is a very effective quaker. Yeah. Um, Gallis gets interviewed about, oh, did you miss us with this is where we've been? We got to do it. We're going to break. We're going to break boundaries and smash things and do others. Have you guys seen Chuck Norris lately? He's still kicking butt, staying active, well into his 80s. 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So if you want to experience smoother digestion, boost of energy, and overall, a healthier body, go to roundhouseprovision.com/fightful today. That's the sound of something falling three stories. Now imagine if that were you. Well, if you get into crash, it could be hitting the windshield at just 30 miles per hour. It feels like the equivalent of falling three stories. If he felt save lives, that's why you should always wear one. You reduce your risk of serious harm by 50%. Nobody is above the laws of physics. Click it or tick it. Shift into safe. A message from the Colorado Department of Transportation. Things that we're going to smash. I don't know, just a bunch of stuff. So that's fun. It's an incredible impression. Thank you. And from all recap. Appreciate it. Yeah. There's a lot of backstage tax at this place, and they don't all happen in the parking lot anymore. They happen backstage too. I'm glad that they're back. I am intrigued to see where they go, but we will find out. Right. I liked why they had this tag team title match of like Nathan Frazier walking up to Tony D'Angelo and being like, hey, congratulations on the Heritage Cup victory. And Tony, he's like, yeah, I think I saw your name on this air too. I was like, when I won that, it was legitimately one of the greatest days of my life. Again. Hey, Axiom. Hey, are you on this? Oh, let me see. Tyler Baked, Noam Dar, Nathan Frazier, and some guy named A kid. Who was that? Whatever happened to that guy? At some point, they're going to need to do a secret identity storyline where A kid is doing stuff and like Axiom shows up and no one ever sees them in the same place at the same time. Let like, if you're going to keep this, this is like the seventh time they've made this joke since Axiom has been around, they made it a lot of times, especially when he was goofy Axiom. Right. What he's like, yes, a kid, a kid was an Heritage, Heritage Cup channel. And I think it'd be kind of fun. Like they did this thing where like, you know what, this guy can't be that good if the best name he could come up with is a kid. Am I right? And they all laugh and then Axiom joins in a little too hard to like cover. It wasn't like a ha ha ha ha ha. I get what you're doing. It was like, I must blend in. And also admit that I am not a kid. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's, it's, this was good. I honestly feel like they should, they could do more with it. This is a, this is a really dumb show. But like some of the dumb stuff is done in a way that isn't dumb. The mafia kid being a wrestler is dumb. It's one of the answers that makes it not dumb. You could easily do with how talented some of these people are a like, um, having, having a feud between Axiom and Tony D and a kid being around and Tony D not realizing they're the same guy. And apparently nobody in this world knows they're the same person. Tyler Bate doesn't who had a long feud with a kid, Nathan Frazier doesn't like nobody in this world knows they're the same person. You have an opportunity to do something that most programs don't have an opportunity to do and do a, I am one guy under the mask. I'm a different guy with the mask off and nobody knows I'm the same guy. You could make it fun. You could. And he, I think has shown a couple of times that he has the ability to pull off something like that. So I think it could be really fun. Yeah. Um, but I just want to say there's a, a lady named Linda who had been making that joke for years at this point. And I feel like she's due compensation. Yeah, she might be. She might be. Um, we had some chats about this. Yeah. Uh, Tim McFalle thing. Uh, why is one of the most handsome guys under a mask? They love putting face cards on their masks. Yeah. Look at retribution. The police says it's also known as Andradeitis. It is. And it's, it's terminal unfortunate. Um, and doc, doc, doc Miller says, uh, a kid being Axiom is the no Kofi's Jamaican accent. A little bit like that. It is. He's a doctor. He would know. So they, uh, they say, um, so, uh, when you guys going to defend your, uh, with acting championships and, uh, stacks like, I don't know, the water, the street is, I wouldn't say this, but some people are saying, you guys have been ducking the good brothers. Because we're ducking the old sea, yeah. And then, uh, the face is like, listen, um, we're not just hand out the tag team, uh, tag team championship opportunities to these main roster tag teams, but we will hand out an opportunity to an NXT tag team. And then the match is like, and here's the deal. I, I like, um, uh, because they're doing the thing with the good brothers where they're pretending to be an NXT team, but they're really a main roster team. And this works if the only main roster act that is in NXT is the good brothers pretending to be an NXT. But if you have everybody here, Shayna Baszler, Natalia, AOC, AOC, AOC, Chelsea Green for AOP, AOP for a title shot, title, the, the, that's, you can't do all these things, but I do like them, like being like, you guys don't belong here. You're a main roster act. Um, and like, what are you talking about? What are NXT through and through? Because Gallo's in Anderson can pull off that that we're obviously lying a bit. So, um, I do appreciate them acknowledging it that these main roster guys are hanging out, but whatever. Um, so the match is great. Cristafino and Stax work really, really well together. You would have think they had been teaming for a much longer time than they have been. Truly, and the Cristafino really impressed me just in general for how little we've seen of him really good selling in this. Yeah. Really good stuff. Um, again, I'm going to require that either both guys wear street clothes as pants or both guys wear tights. Yeah. It is distracting to me that I see one guy wearing like slacks and a belt and another guy wearing tights. It, I, you are not a tag team. I want pick, pick one. Like Stax doesn't, Stax doesn't have to wear slacks. He can wear like works jeans, but like it's weird to see that like, it doesn't feel like you guys are attacked. He's like, you could like smash together for one night, you know what I mean? Well, no, because then we would have to call him Slacks Lorenzo. Right. No, and it should be like street clothes, honestly, because it feels like they should be prepared for fights no matter what time they come about, you know what I mean? Like I, I think there's something really fun with that. I was very impressed by them tonight. I think Stax has grown a lot in the time that we've seen him and look at Chris Fino. We didn't really know what he's, he's had. And he did not only really well, I've been beating this drum a lot lately. I feel like there's this misconception that if somebody is greener and we talked about this at length yesterday with Maxine, God bless her. Yeah. Like, I've seen this all over the place lately of like, oh, if they're green, we'll cut their workload in half by throwing them in a tag team. And it's like, you just doubled the psychology, like usually I feel like the issue that people have is not so much with being able to execute moves for 10 minutes. It's with the storytelling and the psychological aspect. So just because they're not in the ring as much doesn't mean that's a better call. And it, it drives me nuts and we see the devaluing of tag wrestling across the board. I feel like a lot of times and especially in WWE with this stuff. But like, I feel like it's so much harder to be green in a tag team that it is a singles match. But look, Chris, you know, didn't look green. He looked really, really good in this. I was very impressed by the selling. He moves well. He moves like a wrestler. He moves like he knows what he's doing, which in early parts of your NXT run is what I'm looking at. Like, do you look lost in the ring or do you look like you know what you're doing? You look great. He looked really, really good. I was happy to see him in there and Stacks, I feel like, has been able to improve a lot because he's been kind of in dribs and drabs this whole time and he looked really like very sure footed and not a ring general, but very confident in how to approach things. And I thought this was, this was good. >> Yeah, I understand what they're doing with the finish, but I don't love it. >> Yeah, I didn't love it either. I was like, I'm like, all right. >> Yeah, exactly. No quarter catch crew leaps over the barricade and attacks Tony DiAngelo. This allows Stacks to get a little distracted and Nathan Frazier to do a small package, but I did love that Stacks immediately be upon being pinned isn't pissed about having lost the match or like talking to the referee or looking at Frazier. He slides out of the ring to start to deal with a brawl. This is what happens when your guy on the street corner gets attacked. You drop everything and you join in as well. This is some really good stuff. I honestly like that a lot, but then the blurry boy is getting attacked by the good brothers afterwards to like further that. That seems to be what we're getting at Battleground. Cool. >> Yes, this was crowded, but all made sense. I usually have this complaint about AEW when we get into gang wars mode over at AEW. But it does feel like there is a lot going on when you do stories like this, but as long as it's clean and logical for me, then it's a matter of taste of something I don't like rather than does it make wrestling sense? Yes, it does. In NXT, that's a huge win. So we'll take it, but kind of not my favorite ending, but I get why they did it and you're right. The reactions all around were really solid in this. This was good. This was solid stuff. >> Yeah. So, did you see, I can't believe they didn't show this on the air. Did you see, well, you didn't because you're not allowed to be there. But on Twitter- >> I'm in scroll mode. I can still scroll. On Twitter, they showed, they had a Robert Stone interview. >> I did see this. >> Did you see this? >> I did. >> Where he had his hair down. He had his hair down and he was wearing a leather jacket and he appeared to be an entirely different kind of character than he has been for the past five years in a suit with his hair pulled back in the little ponytail. It's a different guy, the long hair down and the leather jacket is not the Robert Stone. I was like, oh, so this is that he's changed, he's turning over a new leaf, he's going to be a different kind of guy because the other guy didn't work. He said in this thing, my career has come to a standstill and I realize the reason for it. It's because everybody I've been associating myself with has been a bunch of losers and I was like, that's exactly what I've been saying. >> For years. >> For years. >> So I thought he was going to be like finding like, I'm open for business, I'm going to find somebody new and this person is going to be and I was like, this is it. You put him with somebody who needs a manager, who's great, who's got all Keanu Carver, Taveon Heights. One of these big dudes that- >> I think he hasn't seen him with the company anymore, but yeah. >> He's not? >> Wasn't he really, I think- >> No, Taveon Heights was not released. He was not a guy I was released, unless they released him like in the last week. He was not on the original list. >> I hope not because he was really good. >> He's really great. >> There's a lot of people that aren't around TV that I get mixed up if there's something you're not. >> He was not released. But Keanu Carver is a guy who was like, when I saw him in the breakout tournament, I was like, this guy's amazing, he's the right person. So yes, he's confirming that Taveon was not released. >> Good. >> But so, I thought that was what we're getting. A brand new version of Robert Stone, in picking up like this guy who's like this dude who just needs the manager, because he's got everything else. And somebody, we've only seen that one time on TV, and all of a sudden, honestly, I would be willing to accept. Robert Stone's actually a pretty good manager. He just has been managing absolute losers, but Keanu Carver is not a loser. And all of a sudden, you got something. So imagine my surprise after seeing this thing online where he shows up at NXT, talking to Lexus King, his old self with the hair pulled back in the ponytail in the suit again. And he's talking to Lexus King, and I'm like, this is the same storyline you were in when you left. You said in the video that I saw online that you were done with that. You got to move on. And so, Lexus King is being like, why don't you manage me? I'm the top guy, the for real or whatever around here, cuz he's delusional. >> Sure. >> But he says over my dead body or whatever. And so, Ava works out something where that he can have somebody who's going to be a possible client, face Lexus King, later in the night. So they do this, and Robert Stone brings out Dante Chen. And I have nothing against Dante Chen whatsoever. But I feel like we've done a lot of stop starting with him. >> Correct. >> And I don't feel like I've seen him win a lot of matches. So immediately I was like, it feels like the same kind of guy you would put with Stone before, you know what I mean? And again, I thought we were getting away from that. And showing growth. So, I missed it if they mentioned it. Dante Chen was the guy that Lexus King beat in Lexus King's first match. >> Yeah. >> Wouldn't that be a major talking point about this match? Dante Chen faced Lexus King and Lexus King's first match here. And then name whatever frickin' pay-per-view that was, whatever play it was. So like, if that's like, and then him getting his win back would be a part of it. Did they mention it? Like, 'cause I gotta say something, they mentioned it. And I said somebody would say they didn't mention it. I don't think they mentioned it. They did mention it. Well, here's the deal. If half of the people watching didn't see it, I didn't. >> They didn't make a big enough deal out of it. >> And then people did mention it. Well, like, you'll make the whole thing about it. Like Dante Chen, we've seen him versus Lexus King before. Lexus King, on like when he's beaten the guy up in a rest sold, I already beat you once before, I'm gonna beat you again. You know what I mean? They didn't do it. >> Lexus King is also the type of heel who would absolutely die now, don't it? >> Right. >> Like, it's weird that they didn't do that. So, my thing with this is if they're gonna give Dante Chen an actual push with this, good, if they're just gonna give Robert Stone another person who's gonna waffle around in the midcard, not great. I do appreciate that, like that vaudwag, their stuff was so stupid. But it was also extremely specific in the sense of humor that they were going for. Whether they succeeded is in the eye of the behoser. But I'm glad that they are making him feel like a more serious deal because it also feels like a manager who doesn't get you any opportunities where you're successful also feels ineffective. >> Yeah. >> So Dante's great, but to your point, that social media thing did make it feel like he was going after someone who has a track record of wins. And when they paired him with Lexus King in the segment, I was like, I don't know if I hate that. Like, I don't know if I think that that's all that bad of an idea. Especially because Lexus King said I've been on a bit of a role lately and it's like, okay, someone's sniffing out someone who's looking for wins, etc. >> Yeah. >> But happy that he's being utilized again, that makes me happy. >> Right, I did think it was funny that he was like, I am virtually undefeated in 2024. But you're not though, cuz we watched you lose to Von Wagner in February, who was being managed by this exact same guy. >> Correct, like you're your last touchpoint with the guy. >> And nobody loses to Von Wagner. Like, then Wagner had a whole story built around him getting revenge for him to put in the hospital, they didn't even have him win. >> And they still lost, yep. >> I don't know. >> You know what, Alex? >> Yeah. >> If you were like, I'm gonna put money down on who's coming out. I would not have thought Dr. Tae Chen. >> No, I wouldn't have thought that either. >> But if I wanted to put money down, I know exactly where I would go to do that. >> Mm-hm. >> Do you know where it is? >> No. >> I'll let Sean tell you. >> Okay, guys, I'm here to tell you about betonline.ag, the official betting partner of Fightful. It's not just an online platform, they've been trusted for over 25 years. 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Betonline.ag, only bet what you can and please bet responsibly. >> Just saying. >> Mm-hm. >> Put the money down. >> Right. >> That's where you go to bet. >> Yeah, that's where you should go. >> You would do it online. >> You're going to do it. >> A.J. >> Yeah. >> So Dante Chen is able to get the victory on Lexus King. >> He is, he look good. >> He did. >> It was nice to see you. >> Yeah. >> I don't know what we're doing with Lexus King these days. >> I don't know, man, he's like I sent thing to you and Luis in the group chat for the longest time. There's been a little, if you want, if NXT is on, there's like a little banner that comes up if you want to click on it to watch it. And for the longest time, the people who were, they had a bunch of people on it. The longest time was Bronbreaker, Carmelo Hayes, Wesley, Tyler Beit, Tiffany Stratton, all these people on it who are now almost all of them, no longer a part of NXT. So just this week, they updated it. And they've got Solruka on there, which is cool to see. Roxanne, Tony D, Trik, Wesley still on there. He's the only one who's who's back, and Lexus King. So like, Lexus King, what? No Obafemi, which is the worst possible thing. Like, I mean, honestly, what are we doing? No Obafemi, I don't even know- >> It should just be Obafemi and nobody else. Cuz that guy makes me want to tune in. But Lexus King, I felt like I was like, man, this guy's gonna be champion sooner than later of some sort, some sort of champion. The way that he was brought in, the vignettes they gave him, the way he was pushed initially. And now he just seems like he's a pin taker in the midcard. So I don't know, I don't know. >> Yeah, so they were like, we put all of our resources for you and to your slide, do you throw them? >> Yes, it's true. I like Dante Chen, I like his story, the sad part about it. Like, the thing, this is now from like two years ago. >> You like sat in. >> Cuz he debuted a long time ago. He had his first ever victory, first ever match, an NXT, won it. And then got injured while training. His dad watched his first match and then while he was injured, his dad passed away. So his dad never even got to see a second match. And so he dedicated everything to his dad after that. And all they did was have him come out and get beat the hell up by Duke Hudson, who was being a mean guy at the time. And they haven't done, you think they- >> Where is my precious Duke Hudson now? >> I don't know, but- >> Caring around in MVP trophy not allowed to talk, go ahead. >> Vic Joseph described Dante Chen as a stalwart of NXT level up. And I feel like, I don't know, that doesn't feel like a real really nice thing to say of us. But all you do is wrestle matches on the developmental shows, developmental show, and you've been in the building for three years. >> Yeah, and he didn't need it. It's just cuz they didn't know what to do with him. But yeah, he's the best single A baseball player we had. It's not the compliment that they were trying to make it out to me. And I also don't feel like there was any reason for him to go to level up. He's really, really good. >> No, I'm sure. So, Jambeard says question, why did Ava need to talk to Nick or Adam? And have them both agree to have Dante be the guy. That was not about this, but it is very confusing cuz a lot of things are happening in NXT. Not all of them make sense, most of them don't. She was on a phone call with somebody. We don't know who, it wasn't Nick or Adam because she mentioned them in name to this person. This was a very much an exposition phone call. Like, hello, yes, don't worry, I did talk to Nick and Adam and they both gave the go ahead. Yes, that's right. Next week, Roxanne will find out who her opponent at Battleground it will be. Yes, that's right, okay, good. Thank you, goodbye. Look, it's just, I don't know why we deliver exposition in this particular fashion, but we do. So next week, somebody from Raw or SmackDown or one of each is going to be Roxanne's opponent for Battleground. Because why would Nick Aldis or Adam Pearce have to sign off on anybody from NXT being the opponent? That wouldn't make sense. So I'm, I, if it ends up being somebody from NXT and this is how they introduce the concept of it, that's really dumb. Why would you involve Nick Aldis or Adam Pearce in it at all if it was somebody from NXT? So it's somebody from the main roster, which is not ideal for my personal thing, which is that people should be facing people. >> Especially at PLEs. >> You know what I mean? >> For sure. >> Honestly, like if it winds up being Blair from SmackDown and Kiana from Raw who were just called up, but recent NXT people, I wouldn't hate that nearly as much. Because Roxanne's winning no matter who she faces. >> Yeah. >> And those two women are doing literally nothing on the main roster. So why not bring them back for one night only to give them a shot at the main title? You know what I mean? >> Yeah, the chat pointing it out. Corey's tweet makes it kind of feel like it's gonna be tikka knocks, but we'll see. I don't know what's going on with the main roster call ups and their lack of anything to do with Kiana and Blair and Diejack, I don't get it. Like here, I'm, listen, I like tikka knocks. When's the last time we saw her do literally anything on TV? >> I mean, and anything meaningful was losing to Becky for that next championship. >> But I mean, we've seen her the last time matches, right? >> She was in a tag team with Nat Natty, and then they got drafted to different brands. We haven't seen her since the draft. So why is tikka knocks having been on the main roster now for years? Getting a title shot when like there's nothing that she was doing? You know what I mean? Like there's nothing that you've done. Like, this will be great, do this. This would be amazing, Roxanne versus Rumi- >> That would be cool, yeah. >> Yeah, fucking do that, do that, that'd be amazing. Who's somebody on this level from Raw? Zoe, Zoe, Naomi, and, and, cuz you got, cuz there's no reason Adam would have to be involved in a thing because it's just a smack-doll person. So I need one from each on the same-ish level. >> Level. >> Took Naomi's above Zoe, but pecking order on each show. >> So they just won a Contendership Tag Title match? >> They did, but Shayna's got a match at the frickin' picker on YouTube. >> Yeah, it's true. >> So like- >> But then the exposition phone calls should have been Shayna calling. >> I wouldn't mind this. Kari's saying and Naomi would be good too. >> See, this is what happens when you're a big high school graduate smarty pants like MD Cyclo. >> Yeah. >> I, yeah. Please, Luis says, please be Mico, but it could be someone like Naomi or Vintévi. I don't understand why you'd have to call Adam Pierce and Nick Altis to get Mico's out of more. >> [LAUGH] >> No, no, I wish. But no. >> Yeah, so the Roxanne Vignette was excellent. This is the best I've seen her sink into the character. I don't know how many takes they did. But it's a fully produced vignette with like scripted and everything. But like she fully sank into it in one of the takes that they did. But like it really worked. So like now that if we can get her to feel as natural talking with a mic in the ring, then I feel like we're getting somewhere seriously with this heel thing. But- >> Agreed, and I like the mannerisms are good, the in ring is good. The way she carries herself to the ring is good. If we can get her to cut some more organically healed promos. So much of it is that this wasn't in WWE heel cadence. Like it just, she sounded like a person, but this was really good. And the most, might be the most effective segment I've seen her have on the mic heel or face, honestly. Cuz she wasn't like the, she's very, very easy to root for. But she wasn't lighting up the mic with baby face promos. So I liked this, it's good stuff. >> Yeah, the triple threat. >> Yes. >> Let's leave versus Josh Briggs versus Joe Coffey, was. As per NXT tradition, was very good up until the finish. So, Wesley ping ponging all over the place. Briggs and Joe Coffey throwing bombs, it's a fun little triple threat match. At some point outside, when the camera's not on them, so we don't even know what the hell the move was. The other Gallis boys get on top of Joe Briggs, Josh Briggs, whatever his name is. And they throw him into the ring, double this. And they throw him in the ring. He's been, had a double team move done to him. We didn't see it happen. They never went back and showed it to us, I don't think. And so he's been double teamed, he's knocked out. He's rolled into the ring. There's a bit of a sequence between Wesley and Joe Coffey, where Wesley runs up into the ropes and jumps back at Coffey, who headbutts him out of the air. Wesley falls back across Briggs, who's laying in the middle of the ring, and lays across his shins, and Brig and Joe Coffey falls back and lays across his chest. And so they count one, two, three. And technically, I guess, both guys were pinning him. Save Big on your Memorial Day barbecue, all in the King Supers app. Get tender USDA choice bone and ribeye stakes for $5.99 a pound with a digital coupon limit two. Then buy two, get three free on 12 packs of delicious Coca-Cola, Pepsi, or seven up, all with your card. 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I did not know what was going on with this at all. Pinning someone's chin. This is not how you wish a wrestling match. Like it just, it never has been, never will be, unless somebody submits, because their shins are so pinned and they also are paralyzed in the shoulders. Like there's no way that that makes sense to me. I was trying to think of like what this feels like. And I hate to, I don't want to define this entire person's career by this, but it felt like that time that Cameron pinned Naomi on her stomach. And you were just like, what? Like it felt so at a place of weird and I'm with you. I don't like double pins either. But if you're going to do it, this isn't a double pin. This is just a guy holding down someone's shins while someone else pins the guy. This is almost an assist to what an actual pin is. So I did not like this at all. The match up until this point was really good. I cannot believe how much Wesley does not have ring rust. He did not miss a step. This guy is so good. Well, he doesn't have any ring rust. He's been working with Wesley or Joe Coffey, did you say? Wesley. Okay, I was like, just like, right, Joe Coffey doesn't have any ring rust. He's been working with The Rock now for several months. He's been sequestered at Rock's compound. Yeah, he was kidnapped to Dwayne's compound and forced to make him not be cast out after delivering one people's elbow. But Alex, if you have issues with your own finish, maybe it arrives too soon. Can you kind of like underwhelm your crowd? Yeah. There is something that can help you out. Yeah. Is your sex life stuck in developmental? Well, get ready for a call up with bluetooth.com and the code FIFIL. Same act of ingredients as Viagra and Cialis. But how about this? No awkward in-person visits, no trips to the pharmacy. It ships straight to your door in a discreet package. But let me tell you, your package is not going to be discreet. 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He was at one point goes like every shot in the corner, just makes it easier for me or something to that. Yeah, yeah. Wait, why is everybody doing free duck at the? I don't know. I love it though. I'm with you. Free duck, hashtag free duck. So we get Ava watching in her office. By the way, Ava with a very 90s fit tonight. Very 90s fit. We did see shades of Twitter, Ava. A little bit. Yeah, we got some of it. The bulky Jean jacket and the Doc Martens was like, most of the girls I dated in high school wore this fit. You know what I mean? Grungy, but hell yeah. Yeah, yeah, anyway, so I, Oba comes in and he's like, Oba, listen. He said, who am I going to fight that battle ground? I mean, she goes, I watch the film as much as the pasta can over and over again. There's there's no, there's no way that we that no way for me to slice it other than this. At Battleground, you will face Joe Coffey and Wesley in a triple threat match because they both won. And he goes, and he leaves. He's not angry. You know what I mean? No, he's just open. This is the thing. Here's the deal. I think that maybe we have, they don't know what to do with Oba because the last time he defended his title, it was in a triple threat match and he's doing it again. They, I don't know if they feel like they can't get a believable match where he's facing one guy, but like, that he can't be in peril, you mean? Yeah, like that he would just smash anybody considering helps. And that is my point. What to smash people? Like he doesn't have to like, why do we have to like stack the odds against him? Every time he defends the title. So like, I listen, I'm going to solve this problem later when we get to, when we figure out what the problem is. But I don't, there's other things they could have done instead. So. I agree. I also wonder if this was supposed to be a one on one until Wesley was able to come back and then they were like, he's going to move on to other stuff, but let's clear this piece of the story out. And yeah, Tim McFowl will take the words out of my mouth right there. Maybe they don't want less taking the pin on the way out. But I'm excited for the combination of dudes. I just am also, let's just see. If you don't want Wesley to, Wesley is taking a pin from Obafemi at some point. If you don't want it yet, you want to save that for Heatwave, do what I booked last week, which is the gallows boys get involved and Joe Coffey gets the pin on Joe on Josh Briggs tonight. And then you have Joe Coffey versus Obafemi. And along the way to Battleground, you have Coffey beaten up people. Winning matches in tune up matches. It's been a long time since I met a singles match. So I've asked Ava to give me people I could beat up. And so he beats these level up guys in two minutes, less than that over the next couple of weeks. So he looks like an absolute, like he's a real threat. And Oba smashes it. Because that's what Oba should do to guys. Like Joe Coffey throws his biggest bombs at this guy. And it doesn't matter because it's Obafemi. And so when we finally get to Wesley versus Obafemi, there's like, what chanced does Wesley, little Wesley have? And he gives Obafemi a really good long match that he comes this close to winning. And because you built up the guy who already got smashed by him, all of a sudden, all of that doubt going into the match plays into the match. Come on, come on, come on, just do it. Anyway, so we got another qualifier with a backstage segment before where Idris at NFA simply cannot understand how the rabbit's foot did not help him get victory last week. He must have been the black cats or the Morgan mirror. We're such bad luck. I'm cursed. And Brinley is oblivious to everything. Using Idris's body to help her stretch, as he just sits there, catatonic. They say, don't worry. You guys are going to be out there with me? No, I don't think that's a good idea with the bad luck and everything. So we'll just stay back here. And then she loses. Because they stay, they come out to like halfway down the ramp anyway. And then Jada beats are clean. Jada Parker beats from the face. My favorite move. Right, it's the butt in the face. The butt to the face. What a maneuver. No one could kick out of the butt to the face. It's like a hip check, but less effective, but also finishes matches. Yeah. Brinley Reese is really funny. Like her, she, her typing's really, really good with this. It does feel like the household or sister's still so much. So I would like to see some differentiation, but her just ignoring them was really funny to me. I don't know. This gimmick has a ceiling on it for sure. And why did they come after that? Why did they come down the ramp? I guess they just thought maybe she needs us. I don't know. Maybe because OTM is out there. They need to equalize them? They need to like, you know, just in case, I don't know. I don't know. If you sincerely think you're bad luck, you send other people down there to help. Maybe that's what you do. Do that. You should do that instead, anyway. I like Jada Parker a lot. I still like to finish her. Jada Parker is amazing. I wouldn't hate that move if it was a thing she did to set up her finisher where she knocks you silly, picks you up, and drops you on your head. Yeah, do that. But like as a finisher, that's, that's okay. No, no, no, no. I'm with you 100% on that. Like as an impact move, sure, as a finisher, no. She is great. Like her, her whole presence is just fantastic. So she is the strongest part about the mud. I feel like right now. Oh, for sure. By a lot. So it's going to be interesting to see where they go with that, especially now that Scripps has exited the picture. Cheap plug, you can watch his interview with Sean. So it feels like she's just ahead of them, and it feels like the act suffers from it, in my opinion. Part of that is a lack of reps, and that this tag team division is kind of messy right now. But she has just so much of this already down. Like it's really impressive how new she is to NXT, and how much she gets the overall picture of how professional wrestling is supposed to work quite frankly. So, oh, we got another Wendy Q thing. She had been, she was storing in the first one. And the second one, she was snoring. She was snoring, and then her alarm went off. And in this one, we picked up from her alarm going off. And then we didn't see her exactly. We just saw the back of her in the onesie getting up, putting on little fluffy cow slippers and walking. And then that left. So next week, we're going to see those little fluffy cow slippers walk down the stairs into the kitchen and pour self-able cereal. And then the next one, we're going to see her brushing her teeth. And then the next, how many of these do you have to do to let us know it's Wendy Q? Oh, and three years from now, it's going to be a huge, huge debut. I'm just excited. I'm just excited that she's going to be back soon. I'm very excited. I hope the implication is that she was asleep the entire time she was. I really hope. I woke up from my nap. From it over a year ago at this point, right? So yes, this is moving at a glacial pace to your point, but hopefully at the pay-per-view. She's someone that could face Roxanna if Julia can't go. Right. Like, just immediately walk in. That would be good. So. I feel like I'm about to get left. Trick Williams comes out. And he's like, so last week we saw Noam Dar not hit out in the back and he heard his leg. I don't know how else I can say this was not me. And I was like, yeah, it wasn't you. It was Gallis, right? Like, wasn't the implication of Gallis is taking out everybody backstage because they wanted to send a message to everybody? And he's like, it wasn't me and it wasn't Javon Evans. I don't know who took out Noam Dar. I think we all supposed to know. Aren't we all supposed to know? I think we figured it out. And I thought to myself, they're not running too concurrent backstage who done it attack angles on the same episode. We're like, we saw Gallis take out the North American title contenders. Was it not also them? It was a different person who. Oh, thank God. It's not because out comes a joke out Joe because hold on. So the rest of metaphor comes out. The meta three come out and right here. And you're not you're not apparently you weren't on the show. They haven't they haven't recruited you yet. So because I know it was a goal statement. But like lash lash is like, how can you think it's the chakara Jackson or a mensa? How can you think that it is indeed trick Williams? It can't be him. And they're like, what are you talking about? How do you know? It's not him. And then out walks Joe Joe Joe coffee. Joe Galas is like all the same as Joe Galas. Joe Galas. Joe Galas. This is not all of a sudden now it's in my head. It's that is that scene from my cousin Vinny. Oh, no, no, no. Not Jerry Calo. Jerry Gallo. Not Jerry Gallo. Jerry Calo. C-A-L-L-O. Not Jerry Gallo. That'd be crazy. He's dead. So now Joe Galas. G-A-L-L-S. Us. Whatever. Um, so he. He says, I want I bet you're wondering. Why, um, since I'm now I'm in the North American title match. Why I'd be a guy who would take out No MDAR and try and be part of the why I'm coming after the NXT World Championship? Will I'll tell you why? And why is just his friends coming in to beat up trick Williams? And then Giovanni Evans making the save and then him beating beaten down. And then doing double team maneuvers to trick Williams. Hey trick Williams, uh, booked really strong there as a new champ. No MDAR getting the better view. The Galas boys getting the better view. We feel like feels like the first few weeks of Lyra Valkuria as women's champion. Where she's taking pins and tag matches and stuff. Like. Why is he also like an idiot who can't see any of the song? I, I just don't know. It's maddening. I don't know why Joe Coffey is in both title pictures at this point in the evening. Like. Um, so he shouldn't be. You shouldn't have Joe Coffey go after both things. He's not getting a title match versus trick Williams at Battleground on the same night he faces Wesley and Oba and probably takes the pin in that triple threat match. That's not a thing they're doing. So like you have the opportunity as the bookers. I don't know if you know this HBK, but you can pick what happens on your show. You could choose it. It just doesn't have to do with himself. So, um, uh, why not instead of having, um, Ova be powerless to not book a triple threat. Since there's several weeks now between now and June 9th when the, when the match is. Why not have her say to Oba Femi? Listen, Oba, I know I've promised you a one-on-one match for your next title defense because of the triple threat you had at standard deliver. So don't worry. We're still going to do that next week. It's going to be Wesley versus Joe Coffey one-on-one for the right challenge you at Battleground. And this time there must be one winner. So it's going to be notice qualification. And then you run the exact same thing you did with Joe Coffey and his boys attacking trick Williams tonight because now he's coming for all the titles. You know, he says next week after I beat Wesley with an inch of his life next week, I'm going to take the title off of Oba Femi. And then I'm coming for your title because Galis boys on top. We're going to hold all the gold in the next team, right? That would make a question. And then next week when he faces Wesley in a notice qualification match, then you have Javan Evans and trick Williams take out the rest of Galis and cost Joe Coffey the match with Wesley. Which gets Wesley a one-on-one match with Oba Femi. Figure out a way to book that match where it protects Wesley in some way if you got to. But also you get Joe Coffey versus trick Williams out of all of this. But you have that. If no Amdar I guess is shoot injured or I don't know. I don't know what we're doing with no Amdar right now. Yeah, because he's just like, he's just hurt in the corner. I don't know. Jambeard says this, Alex, this way, both Wes and Joe can pin Oba. So well, that's what he thinks they're going to do next. No. No, no, no, just no, no to that. The thing with Oba Femi is he's never going to lose anything. Well, he shouldn't. No. We actually figured this out a while ago. About the Walter Gunther like days as champion. 80% of his time and all. Like 80% of his time signed to WWE. He's had a title belt around his waist. Oh, but Bobby should be on that track. That's the like, like he was. Walter was champion for 870 days for next to UK, 870 days. He lost that title to Ilya Dragunov, went away, lost all the weight, came back, took a loss to Braun Breaker in there somewhere. Then he went to the main roster, was undefeated. For like, he was there for like, I don't know, a day and a half. Beat Ricochet was the Intercontinental Champion for 666 days. Like, it looks like he's going to be king of the ring. So like, that doesn't really count, but it's basically the way. It's the way that they book things. So like that, that should be Oba Femi's track. Period. Just do it. Yeah. Um, and you're right, Tim McFall. It was Sepha, the sauerkraps society researcher in chief. It is true. Chief in research. There you go. Oba defends his belt in a royal rumble from the one spot. Perfect. And he might lose it. No, he doesn't. I want it to be, I want him to defend it in like the elimination chamber and pin everybody in it. That's what I want him to do. I like this royal rumble idea. And then he has a match later and he loses the match later because he won the royal rumble that happened a mere 12 minutes earlier. I mean, like he won the limit at 20, 29 guys, but he limited like 19. No, he should eliminate all 29. Nobody else gets an elimination. Just every time they come to the ring, he just throws them out. No, but Sepha, you're not researching anything now. If we're talking about how you were the head researcher for sauerkaps. We're talking about your official position here at the sauerkaps. You have researched in the past many things, including how many days Walter has been champion. Slash goontr. So, we got a tag team main event. I did not think this was the, I thought I first thought for sure. It was going to be the whatever they did with the double pin thing, but I guess they had to figure that out later in the episode. So it couldn't go on last. Hey, this has nothing to do with anything, but I need to say it. Yeah. Where did you dole it? I don't know. Like the Ariana Grace thing just went away. She had that hysterical thing with Chelsea, which feels like that should not be over. No, that shouldn't be over. What, what are we? Like, she just said, I'm done. I can't do this anymore. I'm out. Yeah, was that a shoot? Like, is that like, is that the last time that we're ever going to see her? That's the, if that's true, that's the funniest, the best name anyone in the world. Any company ever. Ariana Rose literally made her leave the company in kayfabe. She quit the company because she couldn't stand to be around Ariana Grace anymore. That would be very funny. That would be extremely funny. And honestly, it's the best way to put over Ariana Grace on your way out. I'm just so confused. Um, I am also confused. We can talk. I was just the only other thing, the only other women's wrestling thing was now. So I thought I'd bring it up. Um, so Natalia and Carne Fetchvitch have a backstage thing where they're super cute together. The boat. Oh, you're so sweet. Oh, the boat and the sword. I actually, I like that a lot. See, that's good. See, we should have been doing nautical seafaring puns. That was right the whole time. The boat and the boat and the sword is a really great name for it. The boat and sword. Yeah. I like that. It's also a really great name. They probably call it a ship. If they were going to be doing like some kind of like naval epic, like master and commander. Oh, the ship and the sword. The ship and the sword. Like that's, that's, that's some good stuff. Um, anyway, the boat and the sword are backstage. And they're talking the button. Oh, here it is. The ship and the sword. Or ready for this, the boat and the blade. Oh, yeah, the boat and the blade. Counting the boat and the blade. Um, so they're both in the blade or backstage. And, um, and like Natalia has really taught me so much. And you know, she has the boat after all. And so she's really taught me everything. And maybe you feel so confident in myself. And really with her up by side, I don't think how we can lose. Oh, you're so sweet. Um, but Carmen really sells herself short. And it's just like this weird. I'm going to put you over. No, you put me over best. It's like got a little weird. The only besties I know are the sea twins. Yeah, um, that's good. Anyway, um, we, we see also Shayna Baszler and Lola Viseback stage. Like listen, um, uh, but we, with our MMA background, they really don't set a chance here. But you give me leave the dancing back here. Like let's do that. This, this, we're pit, we're cage fighters. Let's act like it. And, um, says, oh, don't worry. I'm going to, I'm going to tear them apart. But again, this is how this is what she says and how she says it. But I am a Latina. I'm like, okay. Okay, fine. Yes, you are. I just, I don't think that's actually, you're saying a lie at that point. It just, I feel like you should be a little less electrolopa as in a little more. But I guess it's, it's the both, the, it's the, it's the dichotomy that makes it work, I suppose, the secret sauce, if you will. But I like saying to being like, you're dancing too much and not fighting enough. And so that is the story of the match that they have. Yes. Um, it was really fun. It was fun. It was fun. But like there's, man, I just, I, I just wish NXT Shayna Baszler was also main roster Shayna. Oh my God. I know watching, watching this the whole time. I was like, this is because it doesn't feel like NXT and made roster Shayna Baszler. It feels like this is Shayna Baszler. And then they main roster to her or whatever. Yeah. Um, my goodness. If this is leading to Lola versus Shayna, I will be very happy. Well, they're doing it there. They said they're doing it at Battleground in an underground match. Oh, sick. Okay. I didn't catch that. Yeah. Um, that rules. And I'm, I'm excited for it, especially in an underground match. That should rule the underground matches have been good. Yeah. They really, really have ever since like, Dijek and Eddie Thorpe, I think was the first one that they brought back. Um, the women's ones have been great. So I'm looking forward to that. And, uh, I, I liked what we got in this too. Um, I'm with you. Like Shayna just, she's just different. I want her to have like, um, the all-timer run that I know her ceiling is. Cause man, she's fun to watch and stuff like this. Yeah. Um, yeah, the, um, there is a difference. Um, like, I, I, I think that, um, there's a, we have to accept that there's not a lot of continuity from what happens on the main roster to NXT. And so like Shayna having, like winning a fatal four way for the number one contenderships for women's tag team championships last night and doing it in brutal fashion. Like, like choking out people and everything. Um, and then coming down and been like, you know, uh, I, I'm not quite able to, to, to, to get, to, to cancel out the, the, uh, martial arts ability of Carmen Petrovich, who's had 12 matches in her career. It just doesn't feel like it actually quite correlates. Um, but it, it is what it is. We can't really do anything about it. Um, but it is low devices shaking her butt. Instead of doing anything that kind of ruins everything because she, instead of just stepping through and doing a sharpshooter on Natalia, she's sized to pause and shake her butt. And that allows Natalia the time to counteract it. Um, and, um, uh, get the best of it. Um, Shayna gets tossed outside by Carmen Petrovich. Again, just got to accept it. And then, uh, Lola takes a heart attack. Yes. It's pinned by Carmen Petrovich. So Carmen Petrovich gets her, her, her win back kind of, cause that was the whole thing started between Carmen and Lola. Uh, and then Shayna helping up Lola being like, yeah, this, this sucks. But, you know, maybe for this and the main Lola. And then Lola kicks her in the head. And then I thought that was it. I thought the kick in the head and Shayna selling it like she did was the end of the episode. And that's not too, I start this to think up. There you go. And then Lola comes up to the, she stands on the apron, shaking her butt. And then you see from behind her, Shayna just stand up like Michael Myers. And she strides up behind her, puts her in the kiddafordoo clutch, drags her back into the ring and puts her in holds her down. And the referees have to come in and separate them. And they're fighting on the outside and Ava comes out in her 90s luke. And she's like, all right, you ladies. You, you, you, you want to fight? We're going to fight. You're going to do it though at Battleground. And, uh, and Shayna is like grabs the microphone and says, no, we're going to do it. And it's the underground match. I like what's more. I like how you fight. It's not that different than how you run. Um, I missed that because I started setting up for this, this here podcast. Yeah. Um, this is how we're going to fight. I want to fight you. Underground. And then underground is like this. Does the grounds. That's awesome. Okay. I saw the kick in the head and I came in here and hooked up my laptop and stuff. Um, that is awesome. I look forward to that very much. Good job, Ava. We appreciate it. Your 90s outfit making great decisions today. All around. Um, yeah, in the chat. So Ava gave us some Twitter. Ava, we're starting to see more and more of it. Makes me happy. Uh, but that, that's a rule. Yeah. That might be what I'm looking forward to most on the card. Yeah. Considering we still don't, we don't know what the hell. Listen, I reserve the right, depending if they pick the two, the right two ladies to face. Roxanne to look forward to that. Of course. Yeah. Um, but. Oba should smash both guys in that triple threat. Yes. We don't even know who Trix facing. We're assuming no M. Dar since Joe Coffey's not doing double duty. I, I'd hope so. Like. I would think. Yeah. Um, uh, Jambir says they should be the, it was, tonight was the boat and the blade versus clutch and dance. Clutch and dance is tough. It's tough. Cause I want to say like dance and the clutch. But it feels more like it should be like coming in clutch, but I don't know how to make that work with dance. I don't know either. I'm very excited for main roster, working with SOTIA situations though. That seems. Yeah, that looks really cool. And it's very, it's also has no bearing on any of this. Correct. Which is, which is weird. Well, sorry I brought it up then Alex. Listen, I understand that the kids say smash in a different way, but I grew up on an incredible Hulk who when he smashed people did not definitely do what the Gen Z kids mean when they say smash. Also, I already played the blue to add so that it's unfair of you to bring up now. Yeah, it's rude. Um, apparently breaking news. New Japan announced that Francisco, Francisco Akira will miss the rest of the best of super juniors due to injury and now if his matches are forfeited. So I don't know what that means for best of super juniors. You, it looks like you just realized what bracket he's in. I don't, I don't know anything about best of super juniors. No, he was just on such a heater and he's so glad and I feel like this is like breakout moments for him and then he got injured and everybody's injured all the time and it makes so hard to watch wrestling. Yeah. Yeah. Um, uh, Will Chisholm asks, with WWE going to Japan soon, would they have done something with Julia at one of the shows? I don't know if they would have had her have a match before she got injured, but they probably would have had her come out and do something. Probably a thing. They probably had her do a thing. I don't know, like what the relationship with Mary Gold is, but I don't know. Um, okay, um, so Viking war machine boat. Seafaring puns. To honor Ivar and Eric. Also bird puns, despite me, also a dance pun. Maybe there's in there because of Lola. Here we go. Meet Norma says, "Twas a busy night of me, Calasil. Don't think I'll watch NXT, but wanted to say hi to the Skoll Graps Society. Get it? Skoll." Ah. Like you can think. Chin. Tits shoe. Long boat. Um, E&R says, "Turkey team 2000." Uh, Doc Chris Mueller says, "Teddy Longship." Uh, E&R says, "Spoon Bill, Mike Bailey." Spoon Bill. Who's in a curdle? Who's in a curdle says, "Photo says, Molly Hollies, Alter Ego, Mollusk Hollusk." Which I like a lot. Mollusk is really good. Tom L'Valley says, uh, Ruby, Ruby, Ruby, Ruby Sparrow. Um. Angelo Parakeet, the happy couple. I know, they got super married. I need to give this super married. They got super married. Uh, Lucinda Curlfoto says, "Jade Cargilles." [Laughing] Very nice. Um, and E&R says, "Zach Sader Jr." What's the type of Norse magic? That is a deep cut. And I respect it. It's where you say dickhead and all the magic comes true. Like a great Nordic curse just ending in dickhead. Louisville says, "Ragnaraki Romero." Oh. Jambir says, uh, pink flam dango. Flam dango? Flamingo, flam dango. That feels like a stretch of sea fairing, but we'll take it, because you gave us money. What's bird? Remember? Oh, yeah, sorry. This girl and me, the, uh, then the Ragnarok War Vaters. Um, Osprey, Raven, Tundra Swan Dive, and Odin Femi. Those aren't really good. I love that Osprey. You could just leap. Yeah, that's true. Lucinda Curlfoto says, "Grace and Walrus." Ted McFaul says, "I'm horrible with puns, but specifically in honor of the Viking Raiders, Daddy Asgard." Oh, see, you're not so bad at puns. It was a great one. Ricardo says, "Sky Bluejay." Very nice. Insert clever Tegan Knox puns says, "Tegan Norse." Very good. Um, Chris Burres says, "Finally, the Ragnarok has come back to Valhalla." Very good. And very well active. Louisville says, "Adam Skoll, baby." Um, Ian Riccabani says, "Vecel A Knight." Yeah. Everybody's saying, "Vecel A Knight." Ian Riccabani says, "Chilsey Greenhorn." Very nice. Ian Riccabani says, "It's Dangy." Ian Riccabani says, "Big papa pump is your hookup. Valhalla, if you hear me." This is also really good. Ian Riccabani has got some great ones tonight. Montez Fjord. That's the best. Sorry. That's excellent. Great announcer. Great puns. Ian Riccabani also says, "Dwayne the Ragnarok Johnson." Very nice. Ian Riccabani says, "To be spiteful, avian rain." And Riccabani says, "Bam, bam, bigel owl." And Jampier says, "Dansky and Clutch." Dansky and Clutch is good. There you go. That's all we got. And then we got some jig boxes. You got one. Everything else is our end, so you got to do yours first. Tiffany singing "Red Wine Supernova" by Chappelle Rowan. Requested by Tom LaValley. Even though you were talking, "Ask about my Yankees." I will do this because you paid us too. Oh, wait. We got one more thing from Chilocha Mahem. Flamingo. Peter Avalon. And Brody Kingfisher. I miss Peter Avalon being on my screen. I love him, you're on our phone. All right. Okay. Here we go. Mm. She was a playboy, Brigitte Bardot. She showed me things I didn't know. She did it right there, out on the deck. She put her canine teeth in the side of my neck. I'm in the hallway waiting for ya. Mini skirt with my go-go boot. I just want to make a move, so slow down, sit down, it's new. I just want to get to know ya. Guess I didn't quite think it through. Fell in love with the thought of you. Now I'm choked up, face down, birds out. Baby, why don't you come over? Red wine supernova. Not like that other supernova who should totally invite Kate into the metaphor, which is in the song. Falling into me. I don't care that you're a stoner. Red wine supernova. Fall right into me. Toodles. Very good. All right. Okay. It's me. Hello, I'm here. Jambeard says the ghost of Dusty Road singing Valhalla Calling. Very nice. So I will sing that song. Here we go. Ships on vigor of the waves are skimming. Bare and summits to debated planes. Each horizon is a new beginning rising rain that it. Far from the fjords in the ass-cold currents. Raven saw of a new frontier. Songs and sagas. Or a fake determine. Shields and spills, baby. Vowels of favor. Or the thrill of plunder, if you will. Plundered up together for the clan and kin. Clank of hammers. And the crash of thunder. Power within. Oh, the echoes of eternity. Oh, Valhalla calling me. Oh, to pluck the strings of Dusty. Valhalla calling me. Valhalla calling me. That's how it time. That is. That song was hard time. That was right. So that's it. It's beautiful. Thank you so much for your karaoke signing. I'm being called back to the graveyard. Oh, okay. Bye Dusty. Bye. What a gingerly little exit from Dusty that time. You just missed him. Oh my god, Alex can't catch a break. Just all these are the truth. I've got to be of other things. So right. So, um. Gemby says Ricky Rainbow just saying I am like a bird. By Nellie Fettado. I remember this song. "You're beautiful. That's for sure. You'll never ever fade. You're lovely. But it's not for sure that I will ever change. And though my love is rare, though my love is true. I am like a bird. I'll only fly away. I don't know where my soul is. So I don't know where my home is. Baby, all I need for you to do is I'm like a bird. All I'll all fly away. I don't know where my soul is. So I don't know where my home is. All I need for you to know is your faith in me. Brings me to tears though. Even after all these years. And it pains me so much to tell that you don't know me that well. And though my love is rare, though my love is true. I am like a bird. I will only fly away. I don't know where my soul is. So I don't know where my home is. And baby, all I need for you to know is I am like a bird. I don't know where my home is. I don't know where my soul is. So I don't know where my home is. Her home is a baby all I need for you to know is. Thank you. Thank you. This is the most sober Ricky has ever sounded. Are you sober, Ricky? Or is the most sober you are just like? Never. Never that one. Tom LaValle wants Ricky Rainbow to sing the immigrant song by Led Zeke. Also one that's so bad. We've come from the end of the ice and snow from the midnight sun when the hot springs flow. The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to Newland. Defite the horde singing cry. Well, hello, I am carving. Always sweep with threshing all our only gold will be the western shore. We come from the end of the ice and snow from the midnight sun when the hot springs flow. How soft your fields are green. Can whisper tales of gore? How we calm the tides of war? We are your overlords. On we sweep with threshing all our only gold will be the western shore. So now you just let us stop and rebuild all your ruins for peace and trust can win the day despite of all your losing. Oh, thank you. That was so beautiful. You're such a passionate performer. I feel like we don't need to get to see that side of you, but today we did and it makes me happy. Ricky hit in them notes, said Emily, and then she also said I'm so happy the show isn't normal people. Look, there are so many normal review shows. I do some of them, which is egregious. I know. But do any of them have Ricky in Rainbow on them? No, they don't. I have a single one. They can't book this. No, I won't go on any of the shows. I've been asked. Everyone's calling me up saying, "Will you please come on my podcast?" And I'm like, "No, I only go on with Kate." That's really sweet. And I appreciate your loyalty and it's reciprocated because I won't let anybody with rainbow hair on here. That is not you. That's right. No, you shouldn't because today would be gimmick infringement. This isn't a gimmick. This is real. Okay. That's this is the end of the show. And therefore, I will say the last line of the show, which is, "Keep Coo, Gaba Goo." See what else? That's the sound of something falling three stories. Now imagine if that were you. Well, if you get in a crash, it could be hitting the windshield at just 30 miles per hour. It feels like the equivalent of falling three stories. See felt save lives. That's why you should always wear one. You reduce your risk of serious harm by 50%. Nobody is above the laws of physics. Click it or tick it. Shifting to save. A message from the Colorado Department of Transportation. That's the sound of something falling three stories. Now imagine if that were you. 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