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As one of America's leading accounting, consulting and wealth management firms, our collaborative approach creates solutions for your unique business needs. We leverage industry focus insights with the collective technical resources of our firm to elevate your performance, uncover opportunity, and move upward at MossAtoms.com. [Music] Introducing first, speaking out of Akron, Ohio, representing team Hopping the Boys, the headline God, Jeremy Liver, and his co-host, speaking out of Atlanta, Georgia, representing more than one royal family, the King of Indian doing, Stephen Jessen, and this is the Spotlight on Fight4. Welcome everyone to the Spotlight. I'm Jeremy Lambert, that's Stephen Jensen. It is Thursday, May 23rd, and we had a busy week of wrestling to talk about. Jensen, you've dropped the Minnesota background for the Cody Rhodes background. Yes, everybody. What's up? What's up everyone? Oh, look at that. We got a little water redemption on that. My undertaker beanie has not arrived, I bought myself an undertaker beanie for Christmas, for Christmas, for Christmas, for Christmas, for my birthday as well, but that's been delayed for over a week from November to be shopped, so shame on them. But I did receive this in the mail yesterday on my birthday, so that worked out great. This WWE backlash folks were very, very new, the first poster with Cody Rhodes as the champion on it, really cool. Not this championship pendant as well, that this big guy behind me, that's straight out of a GameStop. They use those things for the wall displays and GameStop and I was like, I was at a GameStop and I was like, bro, I don't see the sign anymore in your window with that giant Cody Rhodes of maybe 2K, 14. I think I was like, oh man, we shred those things, like, you know, we're not allowed to keep them. Like, sorry, we got rid of ours already, I'm like, damn, that's too bad. You're like, but you know what, there's a store like 10 minutes from here that might have their still, I'll give them a call on it if they haven't, like, would you go right over there? And I was like, hell yeah, so I drove from one GameStop to the other, and the other manager with other GameStop gave me that, so pretty cool. Like, I got a bunch of other stuff too, I got like them to be 2K23 with like John Cena, like, they gave me a whole bunch of stuff, like, apparently, they aren't allowed to keep any of it because, like, it's like an employee, it's like a work policy thing, but, excuse me, but they hate, like, destroying this stuff because, like, you know, there's like, cool art and posters and stuff that they have on their walls and whatnot, so they actually like people coming by and asking to take stuff, like, I didn't realize that. I might not be, I might not be supposed to say that or not, I might be throwing people on the bus right now, but the guy was like, dude, whenever you're around, like, just come in, anything that you want that we are about to throw away, like, what does it give you? I was like, that's what's up. So I have this gigantic 3K24 pretty red poster in here, so yeah, that's the story of that, and thank you for the happy birthday, love, I appreciate that in the chat, everybody, my birthday was yesterday. And so I were a little bit late this morning, I was waking up a little bit slow and I was bragging about my headphones last week on the show, my wireless earbuds that I got from Dave and Buster's Dammit, but they wouldn't, like, it was so frustrating, they were paired to my laptop that I'm doing this off of, and then something happened because they also wanted to pair it to my iPhone, and then when I unpired them from my iPhone, they wouldn't reconnect to my laptop. So anyway, that was on me for being late again this morning, but once again everyone, I appreciate your being here on the show, and thank you Jeremy as always for doing this with me, so. Shout out to Big Dick and Muljay for the intro, I knew it was 4 minutes in, didn't get to it. Huge. It covers all of Cody. Yeah, it's a Big Dick and Muljay. Yeah, I appreciate everyone in the chat, guys, leave us a super chat, get your question comments statement right on the air, leave us a thumbs up on the video, that helps, and subscribe to this channel, subscribe to Fightful Overbooked.com, Maggie's in the chat, Rob and Maggie coexisting is actually today at 3pm Eastern as opposed to its typical Friday spot, so if you love Maggie as you should, then go hang out with Maggie and Rob today at 3pm Eastern on Fightful Overbooked. On most weeks Friday at 3pm Eastern on Fightful Overbooked, so we appreciate Maggie, she's always here talking with us, I think that's everything, but before we do get into wrestling, I do, I apologize our finisher asked, have you seen X-Men 97? I haven't, I've actually just recently discovered the existence of this, because I guess it's done for now or something. Yeah, the first season, the first season wrapped last week actually. So you're, first season, you can binge watch the whole thing right now. Is it a, and by the way Maggie, I have not been doing my push ups, I hate to say it, you know, I was talking about the medical thing that I was dealing with a few weeks ago, it had, that has to do with my arm, and it's like, it's similar, if you want to know what golfers elbow is, it's kind of like tennis elbow before I get different muscle in your elbow, that's kind of part of what I've been dealing with. So I haven't been able to do push ups, which actually really bothers me because it's a part of my routine that I'm used to doing at this point, I have to stop myself from doing them right now. So sorry, sorry about that, I have been slipping on that, but I got to, I got to figure out some other stuff to do while I'm dealing with this. But the X-Men 97 thing, is that essentially like the old cartoon, like new episodes of like the old cartoon? Is that what that is? Yeah. Yeah, it's badass. That's a great idea. I remember really, it's really, I won't spoil it for anybody either. But it's really, really good. If you have not seen the old cartoon, you can pick up on this very quickly and enjoy it. So. Yeah, I'll need to check out the little cartoon again because I remember it from like, was it on like the WB, like Saturday morning? I think so. I'm very bad. Fox, maybe Fox. Fox. I think it was on Fox first. Yeah. Yeah. I don't VHS. That's how I watch it. I watch enough VHS. Yeah. There you go. Did you own them or go to your local Blockbuster Hollywood video? No, I had the VHS set because I remember watching certain episodes like way, way too much. Because I really enjoyed just the series overall. Like, I can remember a lot of the like the Rogue and the Wolverine story and everything. So. Nice. There's a new South Park Paramount Plus special drop in like, I think midnight tonight, technically tomorrow. So for South Park fans, like myself, I know Maggie love South Park. So I love these Paramount Plus specials that they've been doing and stuff that are still hilarious to me, controversial, but they're like the only show that like, you know what I mean? It just like doesn't care. Like they're like cancel us. Whatever. We have a billion dollars. Like what are we going to do at this point? So they just keep putting out stuff that I think is hilarious. But, but yeah, I don't know if there's anything else that else going on. Oh, yeah. The NBA playoffs. I've been keeping up with that. I was at a casino the last two days with like no, with like no reception until like yesterday afternoon when I got back, um, so I was pretty wild. The Hawks said the first pick. Are you excited? Do you know anybody who's in this draft? No, I don't. And I heard there's not a good draft though. People are saying it's yeah, well, I will say this, and by the way, everyone, we don't have really like the same, we don't have a guest lined up because we weren't able to do an interview. So that's why you're getting just random chatter right now. We'll give them the wrestling talk here in a second, but, uh, but, uh, so I don't know how much talk there is about this because I honestly haven't been keeping up with like the, like the analyst or journalist or whatever when it comes to this. But as someone who actually has gone to a decent amount of Hawks games in the last couple of seasons, because of my brother having that ticket hook up. So I actually go. Trey Young has probably got to go from the team is what I'm guessing are people talking about him getting traded because like I feel like that's a big part of like the fan base I think kind of wants it all. So like I feel like he's underachieved like he puts up numbers, you know, most games and stuff, but like they have other players like Murray will get in there and like pretty much like pick up whatever Trey isn't, you know what I mean? It's one of the things where it feels like it just isn't working and being there. So I'd imagine they'll get rid of him and then try to like rebuild around like the number one pick and maybe like, you know, whatever they can trade for Trey, um, my guess what they'll probably wind up doing. I don't think this is a draft where you're building around the number one pick. I mean more like you'd be building around like if you can get a good trade for Trey, like you're going to have to build around whatever, you know, whatever you wind up with out of it that comes out of that the number one pick and whatever, whatever trade picks you get because I don't know what trade for another trade or like another pick or players, you know what I mean? I guess that I don't know how that will work out if they'll get like, you know, top picks for Trey or like a good player for Trey. Yeah, I don't know what Trey Young's value is, um, around the league. I think I think he's valuable as someone who scores the ball, um, as well as he doesn't even not efficiently, but as someone who can also table set, very good playmaker, doesn't play any defense. He's got to play off the ball and he doesn't play off the ball and that's sort of the knock against him is when they got Deontay Murray, Deontay Murray, however you want to say it. Um, got him. It was supposed to be, oh, Trey's going to move off the ball. This will be great. And then try to decide not to move. Yeah. One thing that I would think it's really interesting because I've mainly been watching the Hawks and then I like to, you know, gamble on the games, you know, bet responsibly everybody do not take my advice or anything like that on any of this, um, but it's interesting to see how certain teams run like their offenses because like, especially in the playoffs, the difference is like last night I was watching the game and like the T wolves are like setting up plays most of the game. And then, um, uh, the, the Mavericks were like just like fast breaks, you know, and then like when you watch like the Celtics, um, they all have like really good individual, they have like a really good like individual players, like, um, why am I thinking on his name? And then like Brown, Brown, Brown is a ball hog like Brown like doesn't pass the ball. It's why, I mean, he did towards the end of the game, but the first like half is like, if he touched it, he was, it was just a lot of like one on one's like someone would get the ball. It's not, it wasn't just Brad, it was also Kate and it was all a lot of the guys, but like, it's like the Celtics, the way that they play was like one guy gets the ball in offense. Everyone just kind of like stays out of the way. It goes for rebound. Like one guy was like one on one to get someone else, but like other teams are like constantly passing the ball around to set stuff up. Um, it's just interesting, the, the difference in that how you can be that different in like your attacks or whatever, but still wind up, you know, in lots like four teams and the, and the whole thing. So it's been, it's been fun to watch to somebody who like, I was a big fan like the 90s, but I got like totally out of it, you know, last like, you know, a couple of decades. So I'm going to get back into it. I like your assessment of the Celtics, you're going to upset a lot of Celtics fans. Is that wrong though? I feel like, like, but they have like good players, even like the one, the dude who totally screwed me over at the casino is Peyton Prichard because he started off super hot, but he got like eight points in the first quarter and he did nine and a half for the game. Then I had a separate thing going where he needed 11 and a half. If you would have gotten a four more points in the game, what a one, like 725 bucks. What are you doing betting on Peyton Prichard points? So when you're at these casinos, they have like lines on everything. Yeah, I know. Well, because part of my picks, like I took other people that were like, that actually hit. I mean, I had, I had like, I had some six like parlays and four like parlays. I had a, I hit a six out of eight like parlay at one point, too. I, I came really close to putting money on overtime also, like before the game started, I was like, but what's the, what's the chances of it actually hitting for over time? You know what I mean? And then like the game went to overtime and for, you know what I mean? Do you do any straight bets or you just do a bunch of parlays? I took the Celtics to win the game. Okay. That's, that probably wasn't great money. Just money line. Celtics. Well, that was part of a part bigger parlay, like I put like the, okay, that's on a straight bet then Jensen. Oh, sorry. No, there wasn't, there's not a big enough like discrepancy that I would have done a straight bet on, you know what I mean? It was like a 10 point line and like, right, but I'm saying, do you do any straight bets on like parlays or straight bets on player props? And I always, I always parlay the, because it's usually, I mean, every now and then for like the NFL, I'll do like, like Josh Allen is someone that's good for this is like, they'll have a prop. It's like the quarterback has to score two touchdowns, but like they have to score. They can't throw the ball. Like they have to run the ball in themselves and like two types of, like I'll do those kind of because like those, the, the, the, you know, you can just bet on like, Josh Allen overpassing yards and you don't have to pair that with anything. Yeah, but the payouts on that aren't high enough that I do that. How much are you betting? I mean, whatever, I love, I, I, I, I don't know how much this we'd have, it doesn't look like people have like a sponsor still with something I don't know how much I get in front of us. Yeah. Bet online. Do you do this thing over? Bet online. We're not, we're not naming any other sponsors here. We're just. Chad. Right. No, but I'm just saying like there's only so much I can do depending on what state I'm in to where I like, you know what I mean, like I can't, like where I live right now, I can't, would you decide I can't, I can't legally do in Georgia. I can't. I have to go to North Carolina to legally do what you're talking about. Otherwise I have to use another app. Oh, you're using like prize picks and stuff, right? Maybe. Okay. But I love that online. Sorry, I'm not trying to get you in trouble. This podcast is not sponsored by that online, but the overall company is like, that's my opinion on that online. Good stuff. Okay. I love, I love, I love sports beddings. Answer this show. Sorry. I'm not trying to get changeable. All right. I'm you're giving yourself a Trump. I said anything. I can't. You know what you're talking about. Uh, do we have to talk wrestling though, I guess? Um, wait, whatever you want to do, man, no one's going to watch this anyways. Hey, whether you turn the show off, we're talking about wrestling. I don't know. People probably like the sports gambling stuff. There's a lot of the sports gambling going on. Yeah. And by the way, I, for people who are turning them late, I am, I am wearing my, yeah, that's so cool to you Boston shirt. Okay. Is that redemption or is that just kind of like, you're being kind of a fake fan? No. So here's a thing, right? Like, I, I, I've bought multiple Austin three 16 shirts, um, like the same one I've had to buy multiple times. I have that later on somewhere. I haven't won this for a long time, but, um, no, it's more of like, last week was more of like, kind of like a tongue and cheek, kind of like joke of like, yeah, screw Steve Austin, like undertaker, save Cody and Austin wouldn't. And then that got like way away from me, like that got way too deep into like the, you trolled your way into me actually like roasting Steve Austin to a degree that like, I didn't even intend to do initially, um, I am a so-called Steve Austin fan. And I, the joke is I was not an undertaker for his entire career. And now I'm a huge undertaker fan because of this one thing he did for code. Like that's the joke and that Steve Austin wouldn't show up for that. And I don't know why. I don't know if it was money. I don't know if it was travel. I don't know why he didn't show up, but I don't know if he was even asked to have no idea. But if he was asked, I was bummed out. He didn't do it, but it, it put the undertaker on like this new pedestal for me. And it's just funny that that's what it took for me to like the undertaker was he's been in the business for, you know, half a century. And never was for me, say as Cody once. Now I'm buying his merchandise. You know what I mean? Like that's, that's the joke. So anyway, all I heard is you were a fake Steve Austin fan and now you're wearing a shirt to try to get back on his good side. Do we have the video on here anyway? Yeah, I don't think I've ever uploaded it of me at the after this game right now. The sounds are down five, zero. That first Tennessee card, Kai Beach, box 17 news. Yeah, that's me. That's me in a stonepitsy Boston t-shirt at opening day of a minor league baseball game. Chugging a beer. The news was running a, running a report on, on the, on the game. And I was back there chugging a beer. I think it's like a longer version of that too. I could upload someday like, it's like showing me kind of setting it up, but, um, but yeah, Aggies asking you to marry her. Yeah, we, we've discussed this in the DMS. We've already. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, me and Maggie, we're, we make everything people didn't know that. No, this isn't Bulgaria, you know, so like a little, little bit, little bit. Oh, why don't you marry her so she could get her green card? Oh, that sounds like a good idea to marry somebody for, so they can get citizenship. Um, no, I'm just, I'm just playing, but no, Maggie's, Maggie's cool. I like, I like Maggie, obviously, how you say it, but, uh, but yeah, I'll marry Maggie. I'm glad that, uh, I'm glad that people get joy out of seeing me do that because, um, I think that was on the news that was, when that aired, that was so funny. But yeah, so Steve Austin. There you go. Yeah. You're still. People can't, people can't call me a fake man. I'm out there. I'm out there. Yeah. Thank you. I wanted a few people that like, you see me wearing what I'm wearing on this stream and then I just like walk outside into the world. I don't like the rest of it. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's the worst. I told your wife yesterday, which wish me happy birthday. I was, I thought I'm not going to date in Westerns last night. I was too tired after the, the drive and just wanted to hang out and watch, uh, watch AEW and NBA. But I told her I was like, I've gotten a lot of Cody swag that I, you know, wear. So obviously I got stuff behind me, but most of the time, if you, if you see someone walking around the Atlanta, Georgia area and you notice Cody Rhodes merchandise, it's probably me. You can, you can stop me and say hello. I hope you just get a flock of fans coming up to you. Like Steven Jensen, Steven Jensen. No, it's funny. The only time I ever get recognized is ever occasionally at indie shows and it's usually where I'm, when I'm wearing either something that has to do with Cody or Fightful on it. Like people will put like two or two together, they're like, Fightful to, and like, Oh, okay. So like I've, I've seen you before or something, um, you know, that have, that happens very occasionally at indie shows, but outside of that, like, no, but yeah, Cody stuff and Fightful stuff will kind of get me noticed, I guess a little bit. I need this. Yeah, so it's been a handy day. I'm aware of it. And I've seen, I've seen people on YouTube like, commentate, like review it. You guys are the normal on that show. That show. And weird gold they can go on and that. Oh, it's not. It's not like gold thing. It's like the worst people in the world. They got one couple who I used to watch this show, like religiously. I'm sure you did. This couple, this couple has been together trying to get a green card since like before the pandemic. It's been like five years and they are still like trying and like all they do is fight. It's God awful and they're still trying. It's amazing. Yeah. Most people in the world are on the show. I believe that I saw that by the way, I saw there was a milk man or two. Oh, yeah. I'm watching that. Okay. Yeah. That's every single week. Yeah. So there you go. But yeah, most of what I've seen of that show was like gold bigger situations were like one per like the two of them, the one or the other really liked like what it was a one-sided thing. Like one person like the other, the other one was like completely like a green card situation or like a financial situation or I just it seemed like a complete mess of a show. Our immigration though, by the way, is a complete joke like what you're talking like just in general. Like I know there's this big story going around. I'm not wrong. I won't talk about this. But there's a big streamer called. She's got a lot of names, moist, critical penguin zero feelings, Charlie. She owns moist esports and they have like multiple teams like Rocket League and like League of Legends, I think and stuff like that apex and their apex roster is from overseas. And he wound up having to fire or not fire. They had to do this loophole basically, but he basically had to let go of his entire esports team because they couldn't get visas to come into the US or to North America because they were on his esports team. Like there was some weird vendetta against like him or his organization or whatever would let him in because of that. So we had to get rid of all of them off of his roster so that they can get their visas. They all get in and then he could, you know, if they can get in, then he could like start the process of like rehiring them or have them under a different name or whatever. But it's so strange. Like it went on for like apparently like close to a year of them going back and forth with immigration and they wouldn't let him in because he worked, they worked for this one team. There's been no sense, but then they let him in when they rock the team because very, very weird Maggie, I love protein shakes and I love what he marries. So yeah, like what I'm seeing there. Let's get into wrestling wrestling, yay over a million fans and a great number in the demo tuned in. It was a great show and I think it's been a run of great shows. We had a super chat from Shatown Spurs, all right, we got a flamethrower, a giant versus dragon for people making out in the ring and blood from the ceiling. Did Jeremy book dynamite last night? I did not book dynamite last night. I enjoyed dynamite last night. I'm looking forward to the pay-per-view. I had gripes, but I got gripes on everything because I just simply don't like wrestling. So what can you do? What do you think of dynamite last night? And then how excited are you for double or nothing? So I was in and out on watching dynamite last night, but I enjoyed what I saw of it. I mean, obviously geared up for double or nothing. What was the thing about people making out in the ring? I think I missed that. That was Tony and Ryan. Yes, gotcha. I forgot about that for a second. Did you forget about it? That was pretty cool to see. I got to go back and watch. How long did Daniel sin and sat in him seeing go for? I did. Not long. I was pretty short match. Yeah. How did he go? Did he did dance and work him? Oh, no. What happened? Oh, sorry, Jim Rosh has posted that he unexpected trip to the E.R. shortness of breath. Well, hopefully J.R.s. Yeah. Okay. Um, it was, it was what you would expect from Daniel son and sat in them saying they tried to, you know, J lethal is out there. This isn't a spoiler. It already happened. The match ended in a DQ and I had no time like don't do many. I understand it was only eight minutes. Like fine. You didn't get me invested in a 20 minute match and then in a DQ, which WWE would like to do a lot back in the day and would always don't injure many events in DQs. I hate that. Absolutely hate it. Don't main event with this match if you're going to end it in a DQ. I know why they did because they got, they had to set up the post show or post match thing with the, uh, with the brawl and everything. I just don't like many events ending in a DQ. So it was, it was fine. It was what you would expect from it. Danielson did what Danielson does. Uh, the table broke on Sanjay as they tried to set it up, which was hilarious. Um, yeah, that's the closing segments with the young bucks and Darby Allen making the save. I thought was good. Uh, and I'm going to sound crotchety here, so I'm sorry. I want to know where John Moxley was. Why didn't he come out and help Brian Danielson? I thought they were friends. I thought they were on, you know, Blackpool Combat Club. Moxley was there. He hit. Yeah, absolutely. I guess FTR just wasn't there. Um, and I probably wouldn't have had Danielson fire up on both the young bucks before like Ocada came out to take him out. Like that Danielson didn't really need that. Like he just gotten beaten down by Satnam, Jared, lethal, and then the young bucks came out and continued to beat him down and then Danielson just ended up fighting both of them off by himself until Ocada came out and was like, eh, I don't know if I'm doing that with the tag team champions, uh, getting beat down like that. It's Brian Danielson. I love Danielson, but he probably doesn't need that fire up spot there. Darby with the flamethrower was very cool. Yes. Yeah, that was cool. Um, speaking of cool and speaking of the young bucks, what do you think about those shoes? I mean, they're rebock pumps. They're pretty. Yeah. Honestly, like the kid in me thinks this is very cool because I, I didn't pretty, I know I had a pair. Yeah. We bought pumps. Like feel like everybody did. That was around our age. So like that's cool. I, I'm not going to buy them because I know I'm buying them. I'm buying like 180 on channel. I'm getting those for sure. I got her off this. I do pair of shoes in a while. I mainly wear griffies. I have two pairs of griffies that I bought a pair of a little mellow slimes last season also, but there's very, very rare occasions that I can let those out. I don't think I've shown you those shoes before. Um, they're ridiculous, but they'll say Nickelodeon slime. Um, but yeah, I mainly wear griffies. So the pumps are pretty similar to griffies like the high top pumps, which I like. So yeah, I'm going to buy those young bucks shoes. They come out in like four days, I think, so what are those? Yeah, they go if you guys, if you guys happen to see someone in the Atlanta area wearing Cody Rhodes, they'll be wearing a Cody Rhodes t-shirt and young box shoe. That's definitely me. Uh, those shoes are fun and our key in the arena will be really good, like, be good. Yeah. Um, Ryan in the chat was up, Ryan, um, says, so is the BCC just done. Whereas Claudia, I mean, and, and, uh, you just got the concussions or something right now, right? That he's dealing with. So he hadn't been around either. You don't, you don't want my actual thoughts on the black pool combat club. Go ahead, Jeremy. Go ahead and just, I obviously you had a, you know, I saw you had a doctor chest here. I know why did you feel like it's holding back to Anilson? It doesn't, it doesn't make sense anymore. When do you be like doing it? I don't think it's holding back Danielson. I think the group just kind of sucks. And they, the connective tissue of the group isn't good. I know Claudia is like, Oh, I don't want Danielson to do this. I'm worried about them. But that was mainly beefing with Eddie Kingston also being part of the match and now Kingston's out of the match. It's Darby. And if they, if Claudia was that worried, like, shouldn't you be a friend and like help a little bit when this is happening? Like why is Darby coming in here and making the save? If Eddie Kingston is out, then why wouldn't someone like Claudia be like, you know what? To protect Danielson, I know Darby makes more sense as the team AEW team elite. I understand why Darby makes more sense. I would have liked a little bit of Claudia quote unquote, politicking for the spot and be being like, maybe it could lead to a Claudia heel turns or something. But the group always feels so disconnected when Danielson, it feels like Danielson's Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. More than Regal left. Yes. It's kind of, I don't want to cut you off, but that's kind of where like the part of that glue, I feel like that you're talking about is missing was like that was regal. Like the group was supposed to, you know, train young, like there's no one from black pool there anymore. Right. Like it was supposed to train young boys, bring up young talent and all they really did was Yuda and Yuda is unfortunately hurt right now. It's all the peer champion because he's just going to hold that title forever. He is completely forgot that. Oh, the group just feels disconnected again. Where was John Moxley? Like, why didn't Moxley say anything? No, Moxley was there. I said it. No, he was. He was. But he is, but he's defending his I W G. No, I do it. I completely understand what you're saying. I, I, I agree. This is my problem. This is my problem with a lot of these groups in AEW. Is there disconnected until they feel like they have a reason to connect them? Instead of just making them connected, even if it's just little things. You can't say the young bucks after they attacked Takesha or after the, the young bucks can't say like, Oh, we've kicked Moxley out. We didn't like what he did to Takesha. He's no longer in the building. You can't use that line to explain why, um, to explain why Moxley wasn't there to save Danielson. It's just little things like that that I feel add a lot to the show. Cause otherwise I'm like, this Daniel, Danielson was just teaming with Moxley the other week. He was just teaming with Claudio. These guys are supposed to be his friends. They're supposed to be in the group together. Where are they to help him against five different people? The, the Jarrett group and then the, the young bucks. But because, oh, they're not teaming at anarchy and arena, they're not around to help them. A&M used to be good at that of like, oh, the baby faces actually have friends. This makes sense. Yeah. It's not just say the baby faces are just dumb old baby faces because that's the wrestling trope forever. It used to be, Oh no, baby faces actually stick together because these guys are actually friends. We've seen them together. So it makes sense that they would help each other. Now they're just falling into your typical wrestling tropes, which fine. This is how wrestling has worked for a lot, but A.W used to not do this kind of stuff. So it gets annoying when now they decide to do this kind of stuff, especially when it's these groups. I just want to know where Moxley was. That's all. Where's John Moxley? Yeah. That's a great, I can't disagree with anything you said. I think it all makes sense. And I think Ryan has a good point there about Claudio. You have good points about Claudio. And we've talked about it on previous episodes, but it's been a while, but there are some big missed opportunities, I think, with the Black Bull Combat Club, as far as the young boys, like we were just saying, like Wheeler was really cool that he was, that he's a part of it. I think he was a good fit. He needed a little something extra, I think, to make him really click with the crowd and hit the next level. And I think that the Combat Club has done that in a lot of ways for him. And I was a fan of his, obviously, on the indies pre-AEW, so I've been pulling for you for quite a while. So I liked that he's a part of this, but also when guys like Lee Moriarty got to the company in Daniel Garcia and those kind of guys, it was so clear that that's the group that they should have been a part of. And for whatever reason, it's like, you know, there's the stuff about Jericho, basically hand-picking Garcia and keeping him away from that, so it can do the Appreciation Society. For whatever reason, they decided to go the route they went with Moriarty. And I don't think he's in a terrible spot with Shane Taylor at the moment, but he would have been a way better spot if he would have come in and been with the Black Bull Combat Club. He's not in a terrible spot, but let's be honest about where Shane Taylor promotions is on the pecking order. They're the group that just loses all the time. On the EEW, yeah, for sure. And then they got like some stuff going for them on Ring of Honor, but we've already established that don't really know how many people are paying attention to what's going on there versus what they see on the show on EEW when they're talking about Ring of Honor using their titles. That said, do you support the Ring of Honor post-show here on Fightful? But... SB3 now does that. So yes, support. Oh, is he full-time on that now? Yes, he's full-time on that. Yeah, yeah. Good for him. I talked to SB3 yesterday, and we're talking about doing another episode of Grossey Dudes or talk about something soon because Joel sent me a screenshot a couple of days ago of somebody who I guess had commented on an old Grossey Dudes episode a couple of days ago. He was like, "You guys need to make more of these," and we're like, "We do. We do. We do. It's been a minute." Talk to these South Park specials and stuff, me and SB3 all have stopped to talk about. But yeah, I think we could all agree that the Black Bull Combat Club had a lot of potential that didn't get realized. Part of it does have to do with Regal leaving. I think, like we kind of said, I think that made things change a little bit. Yes, it certainly did. I'm not excusing that because Regal has been gone for fuck over almost two years now, so at least a year. He left in what, 2022. So yeah. He's been gone. You had to wait that whole year to even be on NXT. Yeah. Because MJ opened the title in 2022, and that's when Regal left right after that. I do want to say, a power driver finisher says, "Dude, I love what the Black Bull Combat Club has been. I actually love the concept of the group, and I like what they've done up until the table, pretty recent." So I do want to say that because there have been times where the group has seen disconnected even before recently when the guys are kind of doing their own thing and their own stories and stuff. But I do like the Black Bull Combat Club, but Jeremy, I think, is completely on the money when it comes to recently, especially on a show last night, why wouldn't other members of the Combat Club help better in the building when their own guy, Daniel Sin, is getting to be down and stuff? Why wouldn't they want to be, or like Jeremy said, why wouldn't they at least be politicking on screen to be a part of Team AEW and stuff like that? I think Jeremy points about all that. So I think both things are right. I think the Combat Club is a really cool group. It's a cool concept, but at the moment, it's just connected. And they do this with other groups too, like before the turn on Swerve, the mogul embassy was never with Swerve. So it did make sense to finally turn them, but it also felt like the turn was there because they had no, they weren't going to keep Cage and Gates of Agony with Swerve because they were so disconnected, basically the entire lead up to his title run. And then he won the title, and then they were really disconnected. And it was like, okay, let's just go ahead and turn him Swerve beats everybody up, and now we're never going to see Gates of Agony on television again. And maybe Brian Cage will still win a couple matches, but just the disconnect with groups, Jericho Appreciation Society was like this way too often too, just you have these groups, but they don't feel connected unless it's like, oh, we're going to connect them because we have to do a big multi-man match, otherwise they're never really going to be together as much as they should based on attacks, based on different rivalries, things like that. So I'm just like more connection with these groups if you're going to utilize so many groups. We'll see. Yeah. The guns are very connected. I do like BulletClip Gold. They're all connected well with each other. The six belt trio, nine belt trio, I'm sorry, right? They have three titles each. Yeah, they have nine because they have like a unifut title for one title. But but yeah, and also you guys, you brought up Jericho continued. I continue to enjoy the Jericho vortex in the, thanks guys and that stuff. I think it's still, it's still working. So they're setting up a triple threat for that for the FGW title. That's official. Yeah. Well, so I mean, like they set it up last night, like through the triple threat match. So that's kind of cool. Do you think that Hook's going to get the title back here or do you think they're doing a triple threat? So Jericho can retain and be the FGW title or champion longer. I think that Jericho is probably just going to keep the title and continue with it. Yeah. If it was him and Hook one on one, do you think like ultimately Hook's going to win it back from them? Maybe. But the Jericho stuff, it's, it's good that they have a, I enjoy it. Oh, there we go. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I know. I enjoy it. I don't, I don't dislike it. I do think that sometimes Jericho relies too much. And then this is a credit to him actually. But instead of just going away, like I feel maybe he should have, he instead just takes the online feedback and is like, oh, I'm just going to make that my character. Whatever the online feedback is, is now my character. Oh, you, you think sport, you want sports entertainment? I'm going to do sports entertainment with it. Every day we rise, challenging ourselves to work for what we believe in at US border patrol, protecting our borders is more than a job. It's a calling agents answer the call working together to keep our country and community safe. If you're ready for a new mission, join us border patrol and go beyond. Learn more at cpp.gov/careers. What's next at Moss Adams? That question inspires us to help people and their businesses strategically define and claim their future. 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Now I'm going to base my entire character off of that. Yeah. It's working for the time being, though. It is. It is. I don't want to say it's not working. I do legitimately enjoy it. I think it's a credit to him that he does that. I also think that maybe he should, instead of doing that, actually, because that's what he used to be very good at, is going away, reinventing himself and then coming back and everything. Now instead of doing that, he's like, oh, I'm going to take the criticism and just lean into the criticism. That way, if you tell me, oh, you're sick of me, well, that's the reaction that I want. It's pretty interesting too, because when you think about it, at least the way that I see it is Jericho up until recently as well, he was always able to get out of stuff before it became uncool. He was really good at gauging, switching and pivoting his gimmick and stuff before people turned on it. That makes sense. He wouldn't wait for stuff to get stale and drag out and drag out and drag out until people were totally tired and bored of it. Even the Judas song, he's talked about how it's been over a year, but he's been trying to get his theme song changed, and Tony Khan kept being like, it's a big part of the show. People want to sing it. We can't get rid of it. Even then, he could tell his character was changing. He doesn't want the crowd singing it. He knows eventually people are going to die out of doing it. It's going to get quieter and quieter. Get out while people want more, this is really the concept. I think Jericho's been great at being able to do that his entire career up until recently when some of the stuff wasn't really working. What he's so smart about is, well, the stuff he's not doing isn't really working. He's getting chance to retire, to leave, and all this stuff, and now he's like, what I'm doing isn't working. Wait, I'm just going to do whatever they're saying now. That's so smart. And just to use that as his character, I think his genius. He turned a situation of a pitcher who can't throw heat anymore, realizes they can throw a knuckle ball. It's like, wait a second. I have a whole new lease on this. I'm just going to listen to them. I don't need to say ahead of it. I'll just do whatever they say. I'll do the opposite of whatever they tell me to. It's working. Yeah, good for him. I think it's also going to benefit Big Bill, who, by the way, this is complete heavy speculation. This is not reporting. This isn't people like, this is just a gut feeling. I have no idea what Big Bill's AEW status is. If he ever winds up back in the WWE, he'll be massed there, I think. And I think AEW would be really smart to push him heavily while they have him and try to keep him there. Like, the guy that size, you can move the way that he does, coming out of whatever this story is with him and Jericho, I think he's going to be primed up for a big run. There might be people that disagree with me that think he shouldn't be a guy or whatever. I think when you're that size, and you can move the way he can, you can talk the way he can, and he's had his own personal trials and tribulations over the years, and it seems like he's on the other side of all that, he seems like a guy you can depend on at this point. Like, I think, I mean, that's rare to be in his position, I think. So I think if this thing with Jericho goes, well, I think they need to heavily push Big Bill with singles guy. And then once again, I think if you want to back in the WWE, he'd be like a top guy there if he returns, so. >> I don't know what Big Bill's future is going to be. It is a credit to him the way he's turned his life around with it. It was kind of before AWS, like the impact stents really turned things around for him, and then he got the. >> Yeah. I was going to say the indies stuff, like there was stuff that happened on the, his exit from WWE was pretty public about like kind of the stuff that went on, and then he was had like running on the indies, like backstage and stuff, and like it was really, like people were like, this guy might be done, you know, so yeah, sorry, continued area. >> I think the impact stent is where he really turned things around for himself. And I think that's when he either pre that started to get clean and everything. And then he got an opportunity and impact, he did really well and impact, he opened some eyes and impact, and then, you know, got an AW kind of try out off of that and did well and that, and then got signed and has done great things and AW much better than I think people certainly expected when they signed him, it's like, okay, here's big cast. What are we going to get out of him? And he's done great. And I don't know what his future is, you know, his, I guess they're still engaged, Lexi Nair. They're engaged, I don't know if they're married yet. >> Oh, that's right. >> They were even together, but yeah, if you're right. >> Yeah. >> I don't know if, you know, that might sway things, but he's done, he's done very well for himself. I don't know what the endgame here, what Jericho is, if he decides to turn on Jericho and he's learned enough for Jericho turns on him because he feels he's the, the tree is growing too much beside him and he can be the only tree standing. No idea where the overall endgame with this is, but as we'll see, I think Jericho does retain on, on Sunday. >> Yeah. >> What else is on this show that you are looking at? >> No, this is official prediction. So yeah, I'm going to take Jericho also in the triple threat. It is wild though in 2024, we're in a triple threat match in Jericho, hook in Shabbatah. So like, remember how, because people forget, because it's already been a while now, but remember how long hook was just standing there for Team FTW who just standing out there eating chips and like, people were just memeing like, yeah, it did roll, it did roll. But then like, how far he's come from there, we're like, it's pretty, it's pretty wild. AW can definitely have their criticisms of like, there are plenty of people that seem like they're in the same position now that they were someone like Anna Jay, for instance, like they're, it's like, I think she's improved, but like, she's in like, pretty much the same spot. There's a lot of people in like Ring of Honor right now that were like, kind of day one AW people that are still like, kind of in the same spot. But hopefully they've done a good job of, he's still very similar in a lot of ways. I don't think his character has like, evolved that much, but like, he's seen as like, a credible threat as like, you know, a main event level like wrestler for them. And that came from a guy standing around eating chips that people just kind of memed on. So that's, that's pretty, that's pretty cool. The gun clubs and other good example of like a team, like them literally being during the pandemic, just being like fans in the crowd basically to fill seats and to create hype to where they're at, like, gotta give them credit for that kind of stuff. As far as other stuff on the show, we'll just do predictions. I mean, I'm gonna take Will Oscar over Roger Strong. I mean, that's pretty clear. And last night, I mean, London's beauty came down, continues to not be over and more low for the save and that's something anyone cares Adam Cole walked and he walked straight off of television. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he watched it off photographers in Jeremy, but like, but if you want more Adam Cole, you can hang out with the chugs on Twitch and have happy video game fun time with the devil. Um, anyway, yeah, is there any, I love you. I love that you completely dislike the breaking of K babe. The funny thing is I'm so obviously aware of like the differences, like, especially for somebody like, like us who, you know, we interviewed so much independent wrestling talent. Obviously the, the people are so much more different than their characters most of the time. You know what I mean? I'm very, very aware. Um, but for whatever reason, it just strikes me very weird that your main, I can't, I don't even call him the main villain anymore because like he thought there and like, yeah, but it's, it's weird. It'd be different if AEW wasn't advertising it. For whatever reason, that's the weird thing in my mind, I think is like, if he was just doing this separate on his own, on his own Twitch, on his own time, like how Kenny does, you know, and like there's, and Kenny just, you know, I think I was, I think I was watching clips of a, or listening to clips of like, cornet talking about this. And he was like, well, it's interesting to hear him talk about Kenny Omega, cause he, he just, he despises him so much, but recently he's been coming around on him a little bit lately. And, um, and I think they said something like, it's like, you want Kenny, you want to hear the Kenny Omega speech from the heart and send him a video game controller. I'm just still going to say anything, you know, so like, I think that's kind of funny. I, but anyway, the, my point is, is that if this was just Adam Cole doing this on his own time on advertised, just having fun doing some, some play throughs, some video game tea likes. That's one thing. It's another thing that he's been built as the devil of your company. You're supposed to be the, I mean, this, this storyline dragged on and on and on and on between him and MJF. And in my opinion, I put MJF in a very bad spot for when he left and when he returned. I think you took the best villain you could ever have in a wrestling company and you made him a goofy baby case doing kangaroo kicks. Sorry if that's a controversial take, but I, I think that, uh, it's one of those things where like, I think that there are a lot of damage with, with this thing. And there's a lot more damage that's going to happen when then when MJF returns to a lame duck storyline, but it's maybe even worse for someone like me when this devil you're talking about a TV, Hey, tune into Twitch and watch Adam Cole and evil, you know, play video games together. You know, like they're, they're having a fun time over there on Twitch, gaming it up for, you know, pog champ. You know what I mean? Like, like, what's, like, what do you, like, why would, why would you do that? I just think it just doesn't make any sense, but anyway, I'm kind of an agreeance with you. Like, if you're going to be like this dastardly devil heel, probably shouldn't like play video games. When you're going to the company shouldn't be advertising that you're having a good time as the chugs, it's a different person says that's not the devil. Adam Cole. That's the chug. I mean, it's like, it's just, it's, it's, it's not on TV anymore. He just sees, it doesn't exist anymore, but he walked and then that was it. And I hate to even say this because like you mentioned, like I'm already mentioned myself, like, I, I, I could obviously separate the two, which is I just think it's a weird thing for AEW to advertise on their show. And listen, the funny thing is about all this is that Adam Cole as a human being is like one of the nicest people apparently, like in wrestling. So like, I don't want him to not be able to go on Twitch. I don't want him to not be able to have like his own gaming community and this kind of stuff. I just think it's weird that on the actual TV show, they are putting on the screen and saying over commentary, advertisements to go there and have a good time playing video caves with Adam Cole, who is supposed to be the literal devil on your TV show. I imagine if Hollywood Hogan was, you know, you know, playing, you know, Uno with the fans. You know what I mean? Like, it would, it would just be weird and then nine, nine nights where they're talking about it, you know, like, it's just weird. That would actually be amazing if. I mean, it is amazing when you think about this, that's sort of the top of the dome, you know, that idea there, but, but you know what I'm saying? Like, it'd just be like, it'd be weird. Some of these, you know, some of these major villains about wrestling history is completely, you know, being the complete opposite and the company acknowledging and telling you where to go find it. Like, but when Adam Cole shows up on our show, make sure, you make sure to despise him because he's a bad guy. He's a terrible human being. He's the devil. But if you like Sonic, they got to have, they got to, I don't think they actually care to put, like, actual heat on this group anymore. They did a good job last night, bloating up Osprey and Roddy, uh, Roddy being dastardly and everything, you know, they have to pin on Orange Cassidy, so they did a good job last night getting some heat. I don't like that, by the way, I think Orange Cassidy is losing too much lately. He's, yeah, I mean, like, lost international championships, like, he's, yeah, we don't see lose that often. I mean, I just, I feel like even seeing him lose twice in the last like, couple of months is like too much for me. He was really, it was kind of waiting to be. I mean, this was his last, I guess, so he lost the international title. That was in March, him and Trent lost in the tag team tournament. That was April. And he lost last night in a tag team match. I don't remember who got penned in the tag team tournament, maybe in my, maybe in my head, it's a lot of like, cause like he had the international title for so long and like saved unbeaten for so long and maybe like, but like he went over and like that Jericho feud and stuff. I don't know. That was during the pandemic. Yeah, it was, I mean, but so I don't know, I don't want to, I don't want to like beat you down on this either because I do like Trent as well. I like Trent in Orange Cassidy, I like Trump Taylor as well too, but I, I like where they're at like with this. I just, I would like to see Orange Cassidy lose, I guess a little less often, but I guess losing three times over the last, what, I think he's going to lose the Trent because I don't understand this rematch when Orange Cassidy beat him like two weeks ago. Yeah, no, I mean, you're probably right. And that will kind of actually feed into what I'm saying a little even more. But once again, it, it on, to be fair, it depends on what they do with Trent coming out of it. If Trent wins and then he goes on to have a good, and Maggie, and there's a lot of people in the chat, by the way, that are all saying, Orange Cassidy's been protected or too protective. Yeah, I don't think he's losing too often. I think that's, that's, that's not a hill that I'm willing to die on. Like I'll, I'll, because you're wrong, again, that's, that's not too bad. I just feel like we saw him like not really lose like at all, but now we've lost a few times. And once again, he has tough line, like people were mentioning, they've got to be careful with, with a guy like Orange Cassidy, I think I, I, he's different in a lot of ways. Like it just, it's hard. I mean, I do think that Don Callis probably ends up or Trent ends up with Don Callis, like Don Callis swerves Orange Cassidy. And that's probably how Orange Cassidy loses on something. I think you're probably right about that. That'll be unfortunate. Yeah. I don't want to refresh it, finish this as don't awesome this Steven. This isn't, no, this is me praising somebody like I'm a big Orange Cassidy fan. And I think he's. This guy wins too much. I just think he needs to be booked in a very safe way given the gimmick and stuff. Like you just, there's a certain way you have to do it for it to work. And I think A.W. has done a really good job with him up to this point. Um, anyways, he can take some losses. It'll be. Yeah, it's okay. And, you know, once again, this all is relative to what they do afterwards anyways, like the Orange Cassidy lose to Trent Beretta. And then he wins his next big feud, then like right back on track, like, you know what I mean? Who? So this, this. And once again, I think that Trent should get a push also. So like I'm interested to see where this all goes, um, Ryan would super chat, I'll pull this up. I agree with this one. Ryan Solley says, Steven, like Cody Backlatch poster is Jeff's kiss. Um, I agree, I agree. Just came in from WWE shock, just came in yesterday. Thank you very much. It is very cool. It's very cool seeing Cody with the WWE Championship on something like that. I almost, I'll eventually buy the, uh, the poster of him and Roman squaring off for the, uh, for the WrestleMania main event, I'll put that up also. I'll probably buy all the Cody Rhodes posters of him as a champion, actually. That's terrible. It's awesome. Anyways, um, so yeah, I guess, yeah, we'll also have Roger Strong. Um, we're gonna take Tony Storm or Serena D. I feel like Tony's gonna keep retaining because she's got a good thing going, but like, I've always liked Serena D, but I love her in-ring wrestling. Um, and like, I do feel sympathy for her, which is dealt with and that kind of stuff. But why? She's, she's a heel. You're not supposed to have something for her. For Serena D. Yeah. Yeah. But like, the actual health stuff she dealt with, I, like, that sucks. Like the- But she's a heel. Yeah. I know what you're doing right now because like, my friend, my, my friend Hughes actually was kind of saying the same thing where he was like, this whole thing is really weird to me because Dee just went through all this, but she's supposed to be getting booed. They baby-faced her with that promo and then they're healing her with everything else they're doing with it. Yeah. I don't think she's a baby face in this storyline, Paul to our furniture. I think they tried with that promo, but all of her other actions scream heel. Last night, that was a heel move. Tony storms the baby face, she's protecting young Mariah Mae and trying to, you know, shield her from all of the standing up for her, her, she calls her her, her child. Like, Tony storms be in the baby face here in this- Yeah. No, you're right. It's just literally exactly what my friend was. Like, you were saying the same thing where he was just confused as to why they were doing this, the way that they were doing and doing the same stuff you're saying. So I know, I know it isn't just you. Yeah. It's an off-kilter feud. It's a, it's a, it feels like a flavor of the month feud because they've added paper views and here is who the challenger of the month is for Tony storm. It's always says Alvarez, Alvarez and Meltzer went at it for 40 minutes and that was Tony again. We're not going to do that. No, no, no. I'll, I'll probably watch that though. I still, there's not a whole lot of people, I'll get some shout outs say there's not a whole lot of people. I keep up with outside of Fightful. I'll always keep up with Meltzer and Alvarez to some degree. Like those guys are just too OG for me not to like pay any attention. But uh, like I've never had on this show, but I think has a greater opinion. I don't want to speak for Jeremy. I don't want to speak for Fightful or whatever, but like y'all might agree. I think that, uh, this all launched her like he, he's been on point for way longer than I was even in the game. I remember him doing like audio only podcasts back from like the 2010s, maybe even before that. Like in, uh, that guy, he's a guy who like, I, I still listen to his shows and like listen to his clips and stuff like pretty often. Um, so like that's someone I would like just wanted to throw that out there to show a little love today on my kind of my birthday stream. But, um, I've always, I've always thought this all monster is, is really, really good. He's, he's entertaining too. And the way he articulates his points and stuff is, uh, he's a guy I'm a, I'm a big fan of his. He's a, I'm actually surprised. Like we've never reached out to try to interview him from the spotlight. That, that would actually be a great interview. Get on it, Jensen. I need to, I need to get on that. I don't, I don't think he even follows me honestly, but I, I think, I think we can get in touch with them. We know enough mutual people that we can make that happen. He may follow you. You probably, by all means, I even say that is cause like, I don't know if I can DM him or not. That's the, that's the only thing that ever helps me holds me back sometimes from getting people every now and then people be like, why haven't you had to tell them so? And it's like, they can't message him. You know what I mean? Like otherwise that ask, but I'll message him, I'll say what's up. Hell yeah. That's what's up. Um, anyway, we won't spend 40 minutes on it. No, no, that's all we're already done talking about it. We're both taking Tony Storm, I think. Yeah, Tony Storms, I feel is going to win. Um, we got Adam Copeland against Malcolm Black, he's defending the AWT championship. We had the blood bath last night, a lot of people calling for Game Girl, which I think, I think we'll get Game Girl. Really? Interesting. Yeah, I think so. I think they, I think you can't do that last night and then not deliver on Game Girl, especially like. They can't do the prude theme. That's the only problem. That was literally the next thing I was going to ask you is like what, because unless it's one of those, which I don't think it is, unless it's one of those like hardy boys music type situations, like crash and hard for Holly music situations where like you can actually buy the, um, but no, you're right, I don't know what knock off, they would have to come up with for that. They tried it last night, that theme last night was a knock off of it. Yeah. I wonder if they would just like license a badass song, just like fine, you know what I mean? Just pay to have something cool play, some sort of like audios, more or something. I don't know, but like, I, uh, as far as this match though, you had, you had an idea the other week that I don't think is that far fashion. I think it's a great idea, but it's a good idea, but I don't think we're going to get an idea the other week. I don't think it was that great, but no, it was actually a good idea, but I think the, I think it would be rejected by the fan base that they actually did it, but the idea of Malachi disappearing, like the lights going off and returning and it would be outside the room, the rain where the lights from back on, um, my idea is great. Crowds didn't care. Crowd wasn't good last night. Crowds did not give a fuck about this blood bath last night. We're just like, uh, sure, like five people tried to start a holy sh*t chant and. Yeah. Out immediately. There was, um, there was so much faith led to so much and I think, I think that was like cranberry sauce. That was my next thing. It looked like, um, if you guys have ever seen the YouTube nerd in me, if you guys have ever seen Mark Rover, who's a massive YouTuber, like science guy used to work for NASA, mainly known for like the glitter, the porch, the porch glitter bombs, like the fake packages that like explode on, on people who try to steal from. Anyway, he makes really cool videos. My favorite ones he's made are the squirrel obstacle forces. Y'all really got to check these things out. He makes like ninja warrior forces for, for squirrels in his backyard. It's amazing. Um, but anyways, he did a video a long time ago where he made an entire pool for us. It was a pool full of jello, um, and it was red jello and it looked just like the stuff so they dropped on Malachi. So it was like, that's all I could think about because it was thick. You're right. It was like a cranberry juice type thing. By the way, this is completely off top. I just need to throw this out there because I go down these YouTube rabbit hole that just reminded me, like a lot of the time I'll, uh, I'll find like a new channel that I like and then I'll go on, like, I'll find the video that I like and then I'll go find the channel or whatever, I'll get the recommended and then go down like a rabbit hole, like a lot of videos, sometimes for like the same person, but every now and then I find like a genre of something that I didn't know even was a thing really. Let's not throw this out there. Recently, I have been watching stolen valor videos, which are some of the funniest things I have ever seen in my entire life. These people who like aren't in the military who walk around in public, like wearing, like, wearing military suits and stuff and then getting, I'm not, I'm not a fan of those people obviously. I'm a fan of, because these people find those people and call them out for not being in the military. Like, so it's like, it's like, it's, you know, calling out people who do stolen valor. And those videos have become so funny to me. I'm like down this massive rabbit hole, I watched them like, I've been watching a lot of them lately, but I just wanted to put out that out there too, for anyone who ever asked me the stuff that I like to watch on YouTube lately, that it's been, it's been that videos of people walking around pretending to be in the army and stuff and then like people finding them and confronting them about it. Absolutely hilarious. How do you even find people like that? If you just type stolen valor, you know, no, no, I understand that. I understand that. Just like, how do you find like, do you have to confront like all these military people and like one out of 10 maybe is actually just people who just happen to come across enough of it happens, apparently, that like people just like, you know, have their phones or whatever that are actually Marines or whatever. And like they, they'll record themselves or their friends well of like, they'll just see somebody as like a Starbucks, even like the veteran discount and be like, like look at their badges and stuff and be like, this guy isn't. And like you go up and they just are talking to them about like, you know, specific stuff about the military. They can't, these people get caught, you know, they can't, and it's just hilarious to watch somebody go from like, they're walking around the world, complete liars doing it for the cloud or, you know, like the tip of the hat, like to feel important out there in public, getting better discounts and stuff and then to just watch it just crash in front of them because somebody recognizes that they aren't, that they're just lying and they just get totally called out for it and they deserve to get called out. Like it's illegal to do what they're doing, by the way, like you can go to jail for stolen ballot for walking around pretending to be in the military. So these people get what they deserve. I think it's absolutely hilarious, but I only, I found that I came across a random compilation of like somebody who put together like a few videos of this and that he has typed it into YouTube and I've been watching a lot of these videos, it's absolutely hilarious to me. Thank God Maggie, thank God. Those videos will be banned after I went, oh, you know, I pretty much only watch YouTube. So, I mean, so it's a rabbit hole after rabbit hole and stuff like that. So, anyways, just wanted to let you guys know what I was watching on YouTube. I don't know how we were talking about them, but I somehow got into talking about YouTube channels. I don't remember how they got there either. Joel said I need to watch more Pluto TV, I watch Pluto TV all the time also. I got a lot of screens in this place, but how did he get his own channel? Who? Pluto. No, the app is Pluto TV. Right. How do he get his own channel? How do you get his own Pluto? Pluto. Pluto didn't get his own channel. You got my Pluto TV, he got his own channel. No, Pluto TV is the app, like it's like a, you know what Pluto TV is? What's the character from Disney? No. Well, there, yes, but what we're talking about is it's like a Roku channel, like a free, free live channel. Here's on first is Joel. Yeah, exactly. We're old enough to get that joke, too. Yeah, no, I watch, I watch, I watch Mad Pluto TV, but they have the Degrassi channel, the call me central channel, they had like, they had like a kids channel that there's like, hey Arnold and like legends in temple and stuff. I'm actually I'm 36 by the way, all so, that's impressive to everybody out there. I can't continue the bit anymore. Was that going somewhere? Did you have a whole bit about a cartoon characters that I went way over my head? No, no, it was, it was legitimately just asking how Pluto the dog got his channel and just seeing how far you would take it of with your answer. I know what Pluto TV is, I was just, yeah, well, anyways, we got a job. No, no, no, no, don't put this, I'm sorry, I did, I don't want to damn you're right. You're right. I was wrong. Yeah, John Moxley's not defending the item, you're a championship, um, this is a lemon eliminator match against to cash, do you think to cash to wins and gets a shot, or do you think? Oh, no. Why are they even doing this then? Because they want Moxley on the card, so. Couldn't they have just found someone in New Japan that was available that deserved a title shot? No, because nobody in New Japan deserves a title shot. Evil is going to win the title at Dominion. Oh, no. What do you mean? Oh, no. You know exactly what I mean, no, no is what everybody. No one wants to see. It's up for you. Nobody wants to see. Evil rules. That's a stretch. Do you know what evil spell backwards is? Evil backwards, V-I-L. It's like you can play it. Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, no, that's on Kevin Owens's arm, actually. Y'all look at that. I think, I think Steve Farina might have the same path too, they have that, that live evil backwards. That's right. They're going to live in a world where evil is once again the IWGP world heavyweight chain. And we were just talking about evil. I should have gotten that quicker. Way quicker. Y'all think Moxley, we got Trump right over Orange or as a against Orange Cassidy, but probably Trump right over Orange Cassidy. I think we've established that that's probably, probably what'll happen. I don't know. I might still take OC in this one, honestly. I hope you're mad online when Orange Cassidy loses play. Why is Orange Cassidy losing two straight matches? Yeah, no, I'll complain if he loses more. I'll take Orange Cassidy to win, actually. But I want them to do, I do want them to, it's a win win in to lose lose. But I like both these guys like that they're feuding with one another. It makes sense that they're feuding with one another. I think they're going to have a good match with one another, but somebody has to lose. Oh, they figure out what he has to lose, he could do a DQ. They could. Okay, somebody has to lose for this to be good, in my opinion, because if they didn't have a finish, then I'd run it back and say they shouldn't have done this on pay for view. I don't want to see any non-finishes on pay for view. Don Callis should come out and Don Callis just, he says some things and it ends. In a no contest for too much Don Callis talking. There you go. That's an idea that could wind up happening for real. Did you pick a winner for Copeland and Malachi? Oh, shit. I'm going to take Copeland and Retains. I think Malachi's going to win this title. Yeah. Why? They give that man a bloodbath, they can't lose after this. Malachi ain't taking no L. Yeah. My prediction is the lights go off and when they come back on edges outside of the ring. Hell yeah. Oh, I hope it happens. But I'm saying like it happened, but my prediction is it's actually Malachi. Right. That's fine too. I don't care which way it actually happens. I just think it'll be a hilarious finish, lights go out. What if the undertaker shows up when the lights go back off? I mean, that's Cody Rhodes's best friend. Dude, he saved Cody, he saved Cody. Dude, the undertaker really came to me. Did you see the story where Cody's like undertaker winked at me, brother? No, is that a real thing? Yeah, I wrote about it. I got to read about this. He sees like the lights came back on. He's like undertaker moves so quick. He was like a lion. He got in the ring. So controlling me. Oh, I read the fucking quote right now. Hold on. Yeah. Okay. I read this quote. You're not lying to me. I'm not lying to you. Everyone can go to Fightful.com published May 22nd. That's yesterday. Yesterday. At 9 a.m. Here is Cody's quote speaking to the baby faces by kids. Good guys. Over at the baby faces. When the blackout happens when the blackout happens on TV, this is Cody Rhodes speaking. It's completely dark. When the blackout is in the arena, your eyes are adjusted to where you can actually see what's going on in the ring. The gong hits, the place loses their mind. Roman has leveled me prior to this. I'm laying there almost dead to right, hanging on, trying to catch my breath. I saw out of the corner of my eye the undertaker roll into the ring at the speed that was like ricochet or Chad Gable rolling into the ring, a speed that if anyone wonders if it's still there. Oh my gosh. It was like a lion legit like a lion who had been sleeping on a rock all day and we went out and did it. When he chokeslams the rock, when he chokeslams the rock, I got to make eye contact with him ever so briefly and I think he maybe wanted to have a moment. Maybe not. Maybe I could be under overestimating my importance to the undertaker, but he winked at me. He winked at me and then the lights went out. It was like legitimate magic that happened. All the times when he struck people of lightning, he did it. Just gave me a nice. The lights went out to me, it was one of the most special things ever. That is incredibly special. That's awesome. That's so cool. Better take your so cool now. Good for Cody. It's amazing. Man, like a lion still, yeah, I'm just coming back, he's having another match. Like a lion, the speed of a lion, the speed of ricochet, Chad Gable. You probably won't believe that this story happened either. Undertaker and Cody have both said this. Cody left Undertaker a voicemail like 3am after he won the title. He was drunk off his ass and just said, "I don't know what the voicemail contained." But Undertaker is like, "Hey, Cody had a few drinks, let me a nice message at 3am, not everyone's title." He clearly been, he's having a good old time. Dude, that's amazing. You're probably like, "Dude, thank you so much for coming through and saying it." Oh, listen, how do you think that went? Undertaker? Total taping. So much for helping it, brother. I saw you wink at me. I saw the magic in your eyes. You looked at me and you gave me a wink. Oh, just thank you so much for being there. I don't know what I would have done without you. You were just my hero growing up. It was so cool that you went out there, not now. Undertaker, man. Dude. Dude. Brandi. No, not now. Pharaoh. Stop. Undertaker, man. Oh, dude. Like, it was so fucking Steve Austin. Fuck Steve Austin. Dude. Yeah. I didn't want to show up. Yo, yo. Hot kill. What up, dead man? Oh, man. I was down and out and I was waiting for that glass to shatter. I was waiting for that glass to shatter and then when I heard that gall, I knew something better was going to happen. I knew, I knew, I knew, I knew that the real ghost of WrestleMania is past, the real legend of the WWE Universe was going to come save me, do the right thing and pass on and pass the torch to the next generation and the next face of this company going forward, the new John Cena. Triple H, that's who they passed the torch to. The last is going to shatter next WrestleMania and I'm going to take back everything. We're going to run it all back. When the rock and Cody go one on one next year at WrestleMania, Steve Austin will save Cody. Marvel. Why does Cody mean saving all the time? Why can't this do it? Because it is epic when you can pull this kind of stuff off at WrestleMania, like, didn't give the fans and they get those kind of pops like. Steve Austin. On me. Yes. Yes. Great, great comment there. Thank you, Luis, that is, that is good stuff. Um, yeah, I hope Austin turns on Cody. It's just on Cody. And there will also be Austin beats Cody for the role title of WrestleMania. That'd be great. That'd be great. Aw. Nah. I thought you were still going. Yeah, it's okay. Steve Austin came back and beat Kevin Owens, like, I'm okay with that. Um, but it's not good ahead of ourselves. The two far here, we can code for the championship, I don't know about that, not about that. But then again, I'd say that about literally anybody right now in the rest of the championship. 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God of the Steve Austin, literally anybody, this is going to be on Cody for a while. You guys thought 1,316 days was a lot? I don't think Cody told him a title for that. What you know about grand slam champions, because it's about to be a grand slam WrestleMania main event, like WrestleMania 4 WrestleMania event in a row. So I'm going to write to start it down that like twice. Yeah, but Cody's going to do it like eight times. Moving on, we got a Chris Jericho versus hope first of all, we already said we think we think we're going to have to go back to W. Bang Bang Gang, Jay White in the guns, defending the unified trio's titles against Death Triangle. Yeah. Yeah. It's a match. You getting Bang Bang Gang to retain and you think, who cares? It's about, I feel the same about the trio's titles, pretty much half since the inception of the titles. I didn't think they ever really needed them to begin with. I'll think the Bang Bang Gang to retain. We had Willow Night in the L and Mercedes. This was actually interesting. I said last week that I would prefer for Willow to retain. And I stand by that, I actually, if just gone to my head, if you asked me, who do you like better? I just said, I'm a bigger Will Night in the L fan than I am a Mercedes, maybe I'm just, you know, I made my case last week. I've liked Willow since her indie run. I think she's, she broke, not necessarily broke barriers, but she, she was one of the wrestlers out there on the NBC and who could wrestle anyone of any gender back when like, I don't say back when they know what else was doing, because there were plenty of other people doing it, but she was someone who really stood out to me as somebody who could wrestle men, women, you know, non-binary, it doesn't matter. It's like, will Night Yale, could I have good matches with anyone and be relied on to be like a main event or in like multiple big indie promotions and I love her moveset. I love her personality, the music, the presentation, her promos. I think the promo last week, especially was really, really good, like there, you know, but my prediction, like, I think we were case where Nate's going to win, but I would like, I, I, I think that if Willow loses, they need to figure a way to get her, you know, into like the main women's world title mix, which is interesting because this is being labeled as like a main of, one of the triple main events, but like the women's world title isn't, which seems a little backwards, but I get it considering the build and my name is Dave U and the rank rate W understand all this stuff, but like, it does seem a little strange when you see a pay-per-view card and says triple main event and the TBS championship is in that triple main event, but the women's world title. Sorry to cut you off, sorry to cut you off. U.S. Bank Stadium in Minnesota. Just announced. Next year? Summer slam. Next year. Two nights. Two nights. Summer slam. Oh dude. Oh, and they're going to be riding some massive hype of like the T-wills winning the NBA championship and then the run that the Vikings are going to be on with JJ McCarthy and the squad that they've got with Justin and Jackerson and TJ Hawkins and in Jordan Addison and so on and so on as I could go on and on and on about how the great Vikings are going to be this year. That's, that's, that's, as the kids would say that's going to be lit, dude. Two nights. Summer slam, Minneapolis. Hell yeah. Summer slam. And then but that's 20. Summer slam, 2025, right? 2026. 2026. 2026. Yeah, 2026. Sorry. I said next year. I said next year, but it's, it's 2026. Who, they've already got Summer slam 2025 scheduled? I don't think they do have until Summer slam 2025. Well, hey, even better. So they go to Minnesota after the, so this will give the Vikings time to win the Super Bowl before they go. So they'll be even more high. Well, there you are, buddy. Summer slam, 2026, U.S. Bank Stadium. Two nights. Two nights Summer slam. But they haven't announced next year's and if that's going to be too nice, I get caught up on semantics. Well, no, no, no, I'm saying, but like I wonder if it'll be two nights next year. Yeah. Um, I'd love it to be smart to do that stuff. The two night shows are, they're working for them as a fan. I'm going to keep watching them on TV. You know what I mean? And they're all only, they're all still included with peacock. So like as a wrestling team, you're just getting more wrestling. For the city, the amount of, you know, the, the local economy. I mean, just booms whenever WWE comes to town, you get it for an extra day and stuff. Like I feel like that's kind of a win-win for everyone. I obviously wouldn't do that for all their pay, their pay per views or PLDs. But I think if you do two nights for WrestleMania, for Summer slam, and then you keep going and then it also gives people more of a chance in, in the U.S. to get to more pay per views, if that makes sense. Cause they're doing so many PLDs internationally now that you get the chance to go one or two nights when they're in the States for like WrestleMania or Summer slam. So that's, I think that actually makes sense. Sorry, I don't know. Oh, Jeremy's working. Well, he will give me the prediction you have between Willow and Mercedes. Remember when Mercedes got attacked? No, oh, happened. It was like really early on into, or showing up to A.W., right? No, it was like. Well, she's been there for two months now, it was like a month into it. Yeah, that's what I mean. I mean, I don't, I don't even, I honestly don't even remember that happening. Well, it did. I believe you. But like, what's your point? Like, yeah, you didn't matter that you're out of time. I'm just saying it happened and they just forgot about it. I forgot about it. Most people did. I think do we both think that Stokely and, or that lander is going to turn to help Monet? I do. I do. Yeah. I do think that Stokely or both, most likely, I don't know why you do want it on the other. But yeah, I think that, I think that Stokely and, and stat turn. I'll let Jeremy finish his article there. I, yeah, I'm taking, I'm taking Mercedes, like my, my mind says Mercedes, my horse says will it, but I got to go with Mercedes. I think it's going to be Mercedes and because of the turn. I think they go ahead and do that and then hopefully we can get Mercedes wrestling on a consistent basis because her not wrestling has been not very fun. Do you have any idea how long her AW contract is? I think at least three years. I don't know the full terms. I would imagine it's at least three years. Interesting. Um, after that, we've got, unless you have anything else to say about that one, no. We got anarchy in the arena, the elite combination of Ocada, Jack Perry, the young box, taking on team AEW, which is Brian Danielson, FTR and Darby Allen. I think that team elite is going to win this one. We've talked about it before on the show. I think there's going to be a series of matches, blood and guts and that kind of stuff over the next, you know, half a year to a year. However long this storyline was going for, but I feel like the elite are going to win this one to keep setting up more stuff and I think AEW's team like will change over time as well. We'll have different combinations of people representing team AEW and stuff, but I feel like for this one, I feel like the elite's got to win. The elite are definitely going to win this one. I would imagine you can't have them lose the first match. Um, yeah, I imagine they win this one. Danielson probably takes a loss because, of course he does. Do you think Danielson takes the L? I think it's going to be like, why is Joe? I'm here to wish Stephen Jensen a happy frickin birthday. That's why. Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah. And where are you? You're like a mall? I may or may not be running errands at the mall. Yes. Ooh. Mall still exists. Mall still exists. How's pandemic? They forgot. Not this one though. This one was always questionable. I got this from the mall. This was from the game stop on my mall. Wait, really? Yeah. I thought that would be a special order type of thing. Oh, no. You can't order these. This was right off the window from the game stop. Yeah. Yeah. You should ask if you've got a game stop in your mall, they might not have thrown yours away yet. There's legitimately one behind me. I'm like, go and find out. Oh, let's do a bit right now. Go in there and be like, you got any Cody Rhodes posters? Come on, Joel. Yeah. Come on, Joel. Just, I mean, they wanted to be in this for the audience. Yes. I was like, such a bad idea. Come on, Joel. Just go in there. And then you guys. No. Come on. You got to go in there and be like, man, I'm vlogging. Like, when they ask you what you're doing, it's going to be like, yo, man, I'm live streaming. The problem is I don't want anyone to know which mall I'm actually at in the city of Toronto. I don't mean any adults. Yeah. Well, also I have this mall. No, wait, wait, wait, wait, put your phone in your pocket, but like still have your headphones in so we can't see, but we can hear. Yes. Can we do that? Let's do that. Everyone say, look at this. That's good. Everyone saying do it in the chat. Let me see this chat. Everyone's encouraging you. Let me see this. This is the most people have ever talked in our chat, probably. We do. Oh, chat. What are we doing here? Come on, Joel, just put your phone in your pocket and then that way we won't see it. And then you could just hear. So you ever play the game splatoon, Joel, on the switch? No, that's one of the ones that have eluded me. All right. So the guy, I was telling Jeremy earlier, like when I got this poster and stuff, the guy, I haven't shown it yet, but he gave me this gigantic splatoon artwork banner thing and like there would be 2K23, like John Cena stuff and like these games saw people apparently hate having to like destroy this stuff because they can't take it themselves. So like if you go in there, I'm doing them a favor. Like the dude basically shoved the splatoon banner in my hands. He was like, dude, take this. Don't have to burn it. Take this. That's what I got. That's how I got a like a dollar controller. I just said, hey, Daniel, like Nintendo switch controllers and like, yeah, he has an old one. It's a dollar. No returns. Like the, okay. Oh, yeah. And it wasn't like mad cats. No, no, it was. It was a hurry. It was a hurry controller, but like the hurry controllers are still pretty good. And this is like a super Nintendo version. So that's what I wanted. So I could play like the retro games. Hell yeah. That's a solid. Those are good ones. But anyway, let's get back on topic here. Go into the game. Ask if they have any Cody Rhodes posters. If they have a little Cody Rhodes posters, yeah, no, no, I'm not, I am not that person. I can't do that. Dude, when I when I asked, I was like, you guys have these 2K 24 posters, like, well, and the guy was like, and he didn't refer to it as as the 2K 24 poster when he responded to me. He was like, I didn't see if we got any of those Cody Rhodes posters. Yeah. Cody Rhodes posters. Last time I went there for that game controller, the woman looked at me like she was a frazzled mess. So that's why I'm like, I don't want to pace this person again. She's going to like freak out on me. Jensen, make this your birthday wish. Dude, I'll ask if you hold the if you hold the phone up to the employee, I'll ask for it for you. That's even better. Yeah. That's even better. As they see me with it, I'm like, hey, do you guys have any of these? Nothing good. Yeah. Yeah. Come on, Joel. No. Absolutely not. Hey, Shawn, it's nice to be nice to game-stop employees. Dude, surprisingly, game-stop employees like actually like when you ask for this stuff. I mean, you aren't being nice to game-stop employees instead of having them shred their inventory. We're trying to make sure it goes to a good home. Hey, man. Maybe the Canadian. Well, also, I don't want this stuff. You said it to Jensen. Yes. I'm not saying it to Jensen. Yes. Why? Jensen wants it. Come to Toronto for money in the bank and you can come and get it. I don't do airplanes. I'll get it in Toronto. I'll get it in Toronto and then I'll send it to Jensen. Are you coming? Have we established this? I don't know. We're still 50/50 on this call. Yeah. At least you got a bet now. Yeah. All right. Come on, Joel. Go, guys. I can't get it if you don't ask for it, Joel. This is a call to action. Everybody go to your local game stops and ask for this poster. If you acquire one and don't want it, you let us know in the comments here next week or in upcoming weeks. I will give my address out to people who get these. I will line my entire wall behind me with just that, I'll make wallpaper out of these gigantic posters. Wait a minute. Why didn't you get multiple posters in that case? You could have done it before. I have asked for multiple posters. This is the only one I've been able to find. All of them are destroyed. And then Gunnar has another one. Gunnar, they got the game. Of course. Yeah, of course. That's the other one. Yeah. I'm not doing this. I have to go buy Fedsheets now. Yeah. Fedsheets Lane. Fedsheets. I know. I know. You can boo me all you want. Leave a boo in the chat for Joel Pearl. Leave a boo in the chat. Leave a boo in the comments when you leave that five star review so you're doing it because Joel didn't get me a game stop poster for seeing this. This is all I'm going to talk about in the weeds tomorrow. I'm going to be so mad at you for not doing it. We're going to do two things. We're going to do the game stop thing and we're going to do the who beat up Mercedes. We're going to figure that out. Oh, there you go. I'm all right. I'm going to find out. We got that even happened. Yeah. It always happens. It happened. And you'll never know who it was. Ask that person behind you if they have any Cody Rosie. Oh, no, why you're out of figure out who drove that white Hummer in WCW also. The white Hummer was bitch off. We've already established this. Oh, that's that's the inflation. Well, the way it could have been Tony Khan considering last night, you know, he's driving people around venues, flamethrowers, all I'm saying, the world needs more wrestling flamethrowers. All right. Is there anyone around you at the mall that you want to? Yeah. Yeah. Is there anyone around them all that wants to jump on stream? No, because once upon a time I worked in this mall and it was held then and it's held now. It just happens to be between my house and where I drop my kid off for daycare. Ask them. Ask them who they think. Ask them who they think's going to win between Cody Rhodes and Logan Paul. Nope. Nope, no, no, no, because if I turn this camera around, nothing good would come of this. Coward. Tell you right now. And the people who are there, somebody in my DMS guessing the locations, it's neither of those. They're all some just messaging. It's someone who also watches, you also watch is in the weeds and it's like, you're going to regret being on stream right now. And the answer is, yes, I am. But I wanted to wish my good pal Steven. No, I appreciate it. Perfect. Thank you, Joel. You don't want to make his day by acquiring him another Cody Rhodes poster. We'll see. Really? How good of a friend are you? Maybe some of the best friendship goals are the ones that happen off stream. So maybe he'll get one just not by me going and procuring it for fit. Just go in there and say, what good is that? What good is life if it's not a bit, Joel? Just go into the game stop and be like proves what I did. I was like, if you guys have any, I mean, I asked specifically for the Cody Rhodes poster of course, but I was just like, just have anything that's WWE or AEW that you don't want or don't need. They started pulling stuff off the walls. They went and they got like the, I don't have it all in front of me, but like there's like a John Cena, WQK23, like the thing that they keep over like the aisle of like the actual physical games and stuff, they started pulling those off the walls and stuff. They're like, yeah, they don't need these displays anymore. Okay, so if I start putting them in my office, I'll start getting messages from PR people saying, don't put those up on your walls. Maybe, yeah, for those asking, this mall does have a food court. I'm currently sitting in it. And also there is no arcade in this mall. What food? What food is there? I'm staring at a Popeyes, Bourbon Street Grill, A&WKFC, Menchoo Walk, a jerk king, a tie express. Take us on a loop of samples. Go get, go get. I'm not. Yeah. You gotta walk up. Good. What good are you showing up on the show at a mall and you're just going to sit there and not do any bits. I was coming for a five minute walk in. You can't do that on my show. I know. You know how I work? You can't just pop up and not do a bit. If you find a way for in 2026, I'm giving you a two year lead for us to get a hot tub in Minnesota for SummerSlam. I know Rob Wilkins would do this for us. Rob Wilkins would absolutely do this for us. He would procure us not just the hot tub, but also the city zoning and whatever else we need, the AP, so that we might even produce the show for us to do in the weeds on SummerSlam Week in Minnesota, in Minneapolis, outside U.S. Bank Stadium. He'll somehow bust it up and get completely barred from the building, but we'll be allowed it. That's what we're going to work on for 2026. But you want to do it out of a hot tub? Yeah. No, I've decided if our job is cool, I don't want to put that into a bus. Yeah. It's instead of in the weeds, it's in the tub. Nice. Listen, but Russell doesn't want to have a good soak with us. Are we ripping off Kevin Hart? Kind of. We're ripping off other people who do bath-related interviews. Yeah, probably. But we're going to have fun, Danitz. We're going to have DeShawn's two cents, the hot tub. Yeah. There was a guy who totally done this for years, but not a good idea, I love hot tub. But do wrestlers show up on WrestleMania Week or SummerSlam Week to sit in the hot tub and do an interview? No. So we're going to do that. Yeah. Get Cody Rhodes in the tub. I'll make the trip to get Cody Rhodes in the tub. All right, we'll get Cody Rhodes in the tub. We'll do an episode. We'll get Cody Rhodes, Justin Jefferson. We'll get some legends. Joel has no idea who that is. I'm assuming I'm a solid one for the Vikings. Yeah. He's like the best. Is he still going to be on the team in 2026? That extension is going to get announced, I think, within the next few days. It's got you. Okay. All right. There's no way that-- sorry, Joel. No, no. Three things were going on, by the way. My pleasure. I do appreciate everything. Yeah. I disagree. Listen, we'll see what happens if I get you, but she wants. It just won't be on camera. No, no pressure, for real. But if you do-- if anything funny happened, what was in there? I know. I've seen way too many people get knocked the F.O. trying to do this stuff. I ain't going to be one of those. That's why I said, just put your phone in your pocket. We don't have to see anything. I hate it. They ain't doing it. But I am going to get out of here. Y'all enjoy your show. Jensen. I cut him off. We can see Joel underneath the thing. Rob Wilkins says, yes, we will resign him. The thing with Jefferson is, like, there's no-- for us to go to the route that we have, like-- her cousin's thing is its own thing, pretty much at this point. I think it's hilarious the situation you've got him-- no, I know. But I think it's hilarious the situation you've got himself in Atlanta now. It's like the thing he was dreading in Minnesota happening, and pretty much the reason he left outside of, you know, he wanted one of you, which they have more money than we would ever would have. So it is what it is. But my point is that to draft Jadie McCarthy and to go to the route that we've gone, young rookie quarterback and all this stuff, and then potentially Sam Darnold in the meantime, this only potentially works if Jefferson's still on the team. Like, you know what I mean? You don't make these-- you need Jefferson there for the young quarterback for this to make sense. And then you need Jefferson to keep things open up for Addison and Hawkins and other people. So-- so anyways, I'm very confident that the thing that they've got to figure out with JJ that's taking so long is he's going to get the most money ever that a non-quarterback has ever gotten in a contract. Like, he's about to break record with this thing. So they had to, like, get through making sure, like, the new players were signed, that the free agent stuff was through and all that, whatever. And now it's, like, all right, now it's time to pay Jefferson the most money that a non-quarterback has ever made, you know? But it's worth it. He's the best receiver we've had since Randy Moss easily, and he might be better than Randy Moss. Like, I mean-- Absolutely not. Dude, this is coming from a lifelong Vikings fan, Randy Moss was the goat. He still is the goat. But like, Justin Jefferson can potentially surpass him when it comes to, like, the record books and a lot of this stuff. Like, because he's trending to do that already through, like, his first few seasons. The difference with Jeff-- The difference with Moss was that he had just this freakish-- it was different. Jefferson plays better from the sense of, like, he's running across the field more. He does a lot more than Moss does, but what Moss did better than anybody ever was he could run faster than the defenders. He just got passed everyone, and he could jump higher. He was, like, you know, a collegiate basketball player. So, like, he played at Marshall. He did. He played football at Marshall. But my point is, like, he could jump higher than the defenders, too. So Moss was just an athletic freak who just just run as fast as you can down the field, throw it up in the air. He just jumped, you know, jump balls on people, and-- which is incredible. But Jefferson is a more complete receiver, in my opinion. But anyways, I obviously love those guys. Ryan says, "Great show as always with Minneapolis. I think SummerSlam in 2026 seems they won't be getting WrestleMania 42 as well. I think 42 is then-- definitely not Minnesota. Find a stadium and indoor stadium. That's going to be your first clue. Which building are they doing in Vegas? They're doing a legion. So find an indoor stadium if it's, you know, not a warm weather place. If it's a warm weather place, then you can go outdoor. But they're not-- if it's a cold weather place, they're going in indoor stadium. Yeah, and you're-- I don't know why you've been asked. Obviously, they're doing a legion for WrestleMania. But for whatever reason, my mind was going to, like, I don't know how big the-- what do they call the big-- the sphere? I don't know how many people I'd hold, but I know the UFC is going to-- they're going to be, like, the first, like, live spore or whatever soon to do the sphere. And-- or maybe the first combat sport. I know that they were making sure that they beat boxing to it. But they're going to be doing an event there soon. And I'm really interested to see how that goes. Because there's a lot of potential for the WWE to do some cool stuff in that building. And there's going to be more buildings probably that are going to replicate, kind of what the sphere does, like the giant screens and stuff. So-- but yeah, as far as-- as far as-- I think they've-- I think they'll do WrestleMania in a warm location outdoor stadium again. It's my guess. Do the lions have an indoor stadium? I don't know. But I'm not a fan of the lions, so-- I feel like the lions play indoors. I feel like they-- well, most of them have retractable at this point, where they can, you know, change it back and forth. I wouldn't-- I know people are thinking Detroit for '43, because WrestleMania 3 was there and '23 was there. So '43 makes sense there. But I wouldn't rule it Detroit for potentially '42, either. The Silver Dome, brother. Super Silver Dome, yeah. Super-- I was there at that. I actually got the Funko Pop set. It's too far away from me to grab. But I got-- it's like Austin, Hogan, and the Rock all drinking beers. This Funko Pop is pretty sick. It's pretty sick. Do you want to see it? Kind of. I'll show it to you. It's not up to the main event. It's a short, short time Christian cage. Talk about that for a second. Well, I don't think this is the main event. So I guess it's the last thing we have to talk about. I think anarchy in the arena closes, double or nothing. I don't think it's going to be swerve in Christian. No offense to swerve in Christian. It's just-- I don't think anything's following anarchy in the arena. I think the most attention has been on anarchy in the arena. I mean, that's what's closed every dynamite for the past few weeks. I haven't dynamite. Like, it's closed collision this past week was Danielson and FTR closing the show. So I think anarchy in the arena is closing. Anyway, as far as swerve in Christian goes, swerve is going to win. And that's pretty straightforward because he's not losing the title this early. So swerve's going to win and that'll be that. It'll be a good match. I don't have a whole lot to say about it. So this actually-- this was from the game stop I was talking about. This is that John Cena, 2K23 thing they took off the wall for me. This is-- These are the fun clubs. Pretty cool. And I was there live at the show. So cool little thing to have. Got way too many Funko Pops. Got way too many things. My place is a-- who were flowing with memorabilia at this point. But, you know, what do you-- I mean, I'm taking Swerve or get over Christian, but-- Yeah, swerve seems pretty straightforward. That swerve's winning. I don't think this is closing though. I think anarchy in the arena is the actual main event. I think that closes the show. That's my guess. You had thrown out there via the idea of Mercedes and Willow. Yeah. Not anymore. The fact that they're building it as a triple main event, one is kind of cowardly because that's not possible, unless they're all going to take place at the same time. I think if it was Mercedes and Willow, that was the actual main event, they would push that more as like, "Hey, first time ever women's main event type of thing." So the fact that they're not doing that makes me believe it's not. And they've gotten a lot of good heat with anarchy in the arena over these past month, basically since the Tony Con attack, that it kind of feels like it has to close the show. Yeah. I'm with you. I'm going to take anarchy in the arena as you mean event as well. So, excuse me. I think we're pretty much-- I think we're in agreement on pretty much every match, except for I'm taking Orange Cassidy over Trent Paretta, I think everything else. I mean, you took Malachi over Copeland, I think. Sure. What do you look like on time? I know we got to do King and Queen of the Ring predictions as well. Yeah, that's a pretty short show. We can get through King and Queen of the Ring. I need to finish the story. In the WWE, the story never finishes. King and Queen of the Ring, they're back in Saudi Smackdowns on Saudi on Friday night as well. It's a show. Is that unexcited for it? Dude, we got Cody Rose versus Logan Paul for the coming to be championship, and you're not-- You should be dabbing, dude. You kidding me? Yeah, absolutely not. Why would I ever do that? Double dab. Logan Paul. Why would I do that? Oh, Logan. But Logan's going down because the American nightmare. Now, so we'll get to that. We'll get to that. That's going to be the main event, obviously. King of the Ring. All right, so we got Gunther in the main event. Sorry, we got in the main event. It just said the main events to be Cody and Logan. We got Gunther in the finals of the King of the Ring. He was my initial prediction to win the whole thing, although it seemed pretty obvious. Like, he seemed like the obvious choice. And I think he may have even been the first person they announced was even in the thing. I'm still sticking with Gunther. Do you think his opponent is going to be Tomatonga or Randy Orton? I'm going to guess Randy Orton. And do you think Gunther wins this whole thing, or do you have other things you think might have? I think it's going to be-- Or-- And that was my prediction before the tournament started. So I feel actually good that it seems on track for that. Yeah, I think it's going to be Gunther and Orton. Gunther winning makes the most sense to me. So that's what I'm going to go with. King Gunther. I like it. What do you think that leads to? I mean, obviously, he does the King thing for a while, probably where it's like a crown and a cape and stuff to the Ring for a little while. What do you think he gets like-- I don't know. I don't know that they're going to go full-on like that kind of King and Queen of the Ring with that sort of stuff. I think it's more likely-- They'll obviously get the photo at King and King Queen of the Ring where he's wearing all the get-up and stuff. But I think it's going to be more Aiken to Orkin. I can. That's not how I say it, but I could be wrong. So the older days where they win it-- What's the act for American Idol? Clay Aiken? Throwback right there. I think it's going to be more like that to where you'll get the pose. But you don't need the reminder every week coming out with the King and Queen except there, because then you feel like you're almost beholden to that little gimmick. You don't need that. Like, you know you won. Yeah, you can still call yourself King, but you don't need the crown and the cape for every entrance type of thing. I agree. Not everybody has to go full-king-book-op. You don't need to do that. King Beret or King Seamus. Yeah. They kind of overdid a lot of that. Yeah, I completely agree with that. But like the Knight of, like you said, they'll do probably a thing where they're all like the throne with the scepter and the crown and cape or whatever. I think that-- I shouldn't say anything. I know unless something catastrophic happens. There's got to be plans-- excuse me, got to be plans for Cody Rose versus Gunther for the title. They-- last year's Royal Rumble. Don't forget, you know, number one and number two. Well, sorry, number one was Gunther. Number 30 was Cody, the first year that Cody won. Royal Rumble. And it came down to Cody and Gunther at the end. And they kind of have like a mini match with one another. And I think that Gunther and Cody, like that for sure is going to happen sometime soon. So like, do you think that Gunther wins the King of the Ring? And then it's Gunther versus Cody Rose for like the next, like for Money in the Bank, like one of the next big shows, or do you think that they let that marinate longer like Gunther kind of being the King of the Ring wins some more feuds and then like wait to do Cody and Gunther later? But I kind of feel like Gunther is kind of lined up there to be one of the next big title challengers if you wouldn't see him in the ring. I think Gunther and Cody at SummerSlam is a possibility. That'd be pretty-- yeah, I mean, I'm down for the match whenever it happens. I'm obviously the one Cody and Gunther is way up there on my list as well. He's one of my top-- in the WWE system, definitely my top 10, baby, even closer, my top 5, like I'm big, big fan of his. So I'm just wondering with like SummerSlam and WrestleMania, I feel like try to get not necessarily for the world title, but this is like it almost kind of feels like-- I'm almost surprised like Logan Paul with Cody Rose isn't happening at one of those shows, just kind of for like the publicity, but if that makes sense-- but I mean like that's like a nitpick to like the biggest nitpick degree, like I don't-- like, you know what I mean? Like I just feel like they can do Gunther and Cody Rose like on any PLE, but like on like SummerSlam and WrestleMania, because you figure WrestleMania is going to be the rock SummerSlam, but it'd be a great match and like it'd be a really big spot for Gunther to be like main eventing SummerSlam against Cody Rose with a world title. So like I'm definitely here for the idea of that happening. And I can't think of anybody that would make more sense really, that's like they're every week than Gunther to be in a big spot like that. So-- - Gunther should win. - You think Gunther should defeat Cody Rose with a world title? - Yeah, yeah. - I disagree with that, but I will say-- - Well Cody gets it back, I know-- - Cody wanted back eventually and-- - Cody's going to be the champion going into WrestleMania next year. - Right. - I think that's, you're going to have the hem in the rock for the title. That doesn't mean Cody has to hold it the entire year. I think it's okay if Cody loses to Gunther at SummerSlam, and then maybe gets it back at Survivor Series. I think that's fine. So I personally, obviously to see Cody hold the title from WrestleMania, to WrestleMania without losing it. But if he is going to lose it to anybody and then get it back, Gunther-- like I'm okay with Gunther being bad guy. There's a very, very short list of people. I'd be okay with doing that and Gunther would be one of those people. - I think we all got-- And especially with this title because Roman Reigns held it for 1,300 days. Everyone just thinks long reign, long reign, long reign. And I don't think you necessarily need that for everyone. I definitely don't think you need that for Cody. He doesn't need to be a long reign guy. It's okay if he has it for what, six months until SummerSlam, loses it for three months, gets it back, and then has it for another six months. I assume he beats the rock at WrestleMania and maybe not. But it's okay if that happens. - It depends on how it happens, but I get-- Yes. I'll wait for the long time for Cody to hold this championship. I don't want it to end anytime soon. But the level of respect I have for Gunther is like, I view him on a level of someone who could be the WWE champion. Now, to your other point though, for the shorter title reigns, I kind of feel like that's kind of what the World Heavyweight title is for over on Raw. I know they're two separate shows, but that one I feel like is the one we're going to see kind of more defended and move around more often. - Well, I think Priest is going to lose it to McIntyre and Clash of the Castle. So I assume that's going to happen. - Oh, yeah, yeah. - That's fine. - I don't know how long-- - I don't know how long-- - I don't know how long Priest, but with McIntyre-- - I think they're your new McIntyre punk at SummerSlam, assuming everybody's healthy. And then I don't know who wins that. I could really go either way, honestly. - I mean, I think punk will win, but I think Drew should win. - I think it's OK if Cody just doesn't hold the title for an entire eight. I feel like he needs something to make the reign interesting. And losing it is actually interesting because everyone knows they're setting up him in rock for WrestleMania next year. Everyone knows that's what's coming. So if he just holds the title that entire time, it's like, oh, OK, cool. Cody Defense of the Month. That's what it's felt like. It's only been a couple of months. I'm truthfully not. Like, the reign has been fine. You know, they had the draft. They tried to get things in mind. AJ Styles match was great. Logan Paul just feels like, "Ah, here's our challenger of the month. It's a Saudi show. Let's do Logan. Cool." - Did that with Reigns also, right? It was Reigns and Logan in Saudi Arabia, whenever they had their title match? I guess the issue with Gunther and Cody is Gunther's on Raw. Cody's on SmackDown. So technically they shouldn't be facing each other. - Yeah, the brand split's not real though. But you're right, like they should. Well, I mean, I guess because then what, at least it would lead to Gunther going after Priest or McIntyre or Punk. I mean, Gunther or after Punk actually pretty sick. Like, if Punk won the title and Gunther went after him. But just watching him chop the shit out of see how Punk would be entertained. Be interested to see the response to that. But yeah, nonetheless, we both think Gunther's going to win. And do you think it's going to be Randy Orton who wrestles him? Do you think he's going to be Tom Otonga? - Yeah, I think it's Orton and Gunther. - Yeah. We have the Queen of the Ring. Why we're about to be here. - We've got the Queen of the Ring. We do have a super chat channel. Do you think one reason Lyra is getting a major push is to cement her as a top baby face for Raw's women with Rhea Gone and Becky's contract situation. I think that's partially a reason of why that's happening. I also think they clearly invested something in Lyra and NXT. You know, they put the women's title on her. They had her beat Becky in NXT. So they clearly invested in her in NXT. So I think that's also just they're going to cash in now on the investment that they've already put in on her. I think it makes a lot of sense for her to be in the finals. I don't know if she's going to win. I think it's going to be her Nia, because I think Lyra and Bianca, you can do baby face and baby face makes more sense than heel versus heel, which I know Lyra's not a heel, but before when it was potentially EO and Nia. You can do it, but Bianca with like the knee, she's been selling her knee a lot. Like Lyra beating Bianca on one knee. I don't feel does a whole lot for her. So either Lyra beating Nia or Nia. Nia can do the show up every week with the crown and the scepter and the cape and being between Nia and get some heat with that. But I think they're positioning Lyra for a number of reasons. And Becky's contract situation is probably one of them, because I think we'll talk about it, but I think Becky's losing to live. Go ahead, Jensen. Ooh, I didn't know that there was, well, we'll get to that. I had Nia Jax in my predictions. When we talked about it like last week, I'm going to stick with Nia as well. I think Nia gets past Bianca and beats Lyra, sorry, beats Lyra for Queen of the Ring. Like you said, I think it would make sense for Nia to play at the whole Queen Nia thing for a while. And I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I got to get credit where it's to do. I was Nia Nia Jax fan her first WWE run at all, but I have like your sense of return. I think she's improved pretty significantly in the ways that I think she needed to improve. So I'm totally fine with her winning Queen of the Ring. I think it'd be good for her character and set her up, you know, going forward. If treated properly, Nia can be a big star for them for a long time. It just, you got to book her. You got to book her a certain way, you know, this is what it is. She's someone who can't go out there and lose often because then it just, you know, it kills it. Like she's got to be pretty dominant. And I think Queen of the Ring is a pretty dominant thing. I don't think Jane cost Bianca. I think Bianca just loses to Nia. She's selling her knee. She has the built-in excuse of the knee injury. Nia can attack that. Nia can just beat her. It'll be okay. Yeah. Well, and here's the other thing. If Lyra winds up winning, excuse me, if Lyra winds up winning the whole thing, then it sets her up really well. Obviously, it's almost like her debut really going forward. Like, and she'd be coming from behind having the injury and stuff, but I just feel like that's also a really good reason to have Nia win is like Lyra's coming into it, hurt already kind of thing like it. So yeah, I'm going to go. I'm going to go Nia Jax officially. So we're both going to take Nia and Gunther. Yeah, I think so. I think it's a pretty good prediction. Let us know in the chat who you guys think we're both going to win Queen of the Ring because I'm interested to know, excuse me, I'm interested to know what you guys think. By the way, the Nia and Jade match, in my opinion, like, I mean, I was like, nothing. They're setting up something for the future between the two of them. That might wind up being good, but they had a match. It was like two minutes long. So that was kind of a bummer being a Jade fan. So you mentioned, so we have Becky Lynch, defending the women's world championship against Liv Morgan. You think Liv's going to win. And you said this has to do with Becky's actual like real life contract situation. I don't think it's fully that because I think Becky's resigning. So I don't think it's going to be a thing of, oh, she's out of contract. This is why she's losing. I think the story of Liv winning makes sense. And so I think that's why she's winning more than I think even they could announce Becky has resigned today. That's not going to change my opinion on who I think's going to win this match or who I think should win this match. Why do you think they didn't just have Liv just win when it was vacated? I think because one, they kind of wanted to do this Becky and Liv match here. I think they needed something to get to this match. Liv and Becky make sense with Liv being the heel basically, who has taken out Rhea and playing up this revenge toward character beating Becky in a one-on-one contest instead of just winning a battle royal. Because if she won the battle royals, she could have healed that up. But the story they've been telling over the past few weeks makes more sense for this character. She's won the battle royal. It almost feels like it almost felt like Plucky underdog who won the battle royal. And that's not the story with Liv. So it makes more sense of Becky almost being, I know she's not Plucky underdog, but Becky being in this position and then Liv taking the title from her to do the story this way as opposed to Liv winning the title. Okay, now she's won. Now the quote unquote revenge toward is kind of on hold and Becky's argument is oh I should be the champion. I think Becky won because they got another month's worth of a story out of things where if Liv is just straight up won, I don't know what the story would have been for the month. So those you've pretty much convinced me that Liv is the right decision. I'm still gonna take Becky, but that's mainly has nothing like you made a really good point I think about everything. And I think Liv logically should probably win based on everything you just said. I rarely ever choose against Charlotte Flair and Becky Lynch on pay-per-view just in general. I'm trying to throw it out. But so I'm going to go with Becky retained to have the title a little bit longer. But I think that all the points you made totally make sense. I think that's probably what should happen. And the chat wants Liv. So do that in my G.W. to be going to make this chat angry. But I'm gonna take Becky mainly just because of the star power aspect of it. But at the same time I think Liv still could very well eventually meet her for the title. I think it'll lose us here. I think if Liv loses here, I don't know where she goes from this. And again, I think this was the purpose. You have her lose in the battle royal. Fine, it's a battle royal loss. Whatever. People can come back from that. If she loses here, what happens next? Because her goal is to win the title. That was the point of taking Rhea Ripley out. That was the point of now going after Becky Lynch because Becky's the champion. If she just straight up loses, I don't know where Liv actually goes. Because I guess she could just complain some more and get another title shot. But it feels kind of hollow when I've seen her lose the battle royal and lose a one on one match. Yeah, yeah, you're, I mean, that only is perfect sense, honestly. And also Sean Gardner in the chat mentions Liv has to be Champlain Rhea Returns, which I agree with that too. They have it all set up already. So I'm not against Liv becoming the champion. I think she probably will become the champion. I think you make really good points on that. And as you definitely have to be the champion, Rhea comes back, that's for sure. So everyone in the chat wants Liv too. I mean, that's it's pretty rare. We see that where everyone's pretty unanimously on the same page with that. Just for her. Is it more because you guys like Liv or just like Becky or sick of Becky? And Becky's gotten a lot of heat unnecessarily, I think anyway. Yeah. And that's not to put Becky down either, honestly. Like we by me asking that. Because it seems like I've always lifelived Morgan. I've never been like a huge fan of hers, but she her fan base seems to be very loyal. Like there's people who really ride and die, like really want her to be the champion, like really rally behind her. I mean, so she's definitely doing something right. You know, a lot of things, right? Like, I mean, I don't dislike Liv Morgan, you know what I mean? I just I see Becky on like a higher level, but that's there's a lot of people that kind of turned on Becky too, though, like you mentioned. So it's interesting. Anything else you want to say about that or move on to the next match? No, excuse me. We got Sammy Zayn defending the WWE Intercontinental Championship against Chad Gable and Bronson Reed in a triple threat match. You got a Zayn retaining here, you didn't get a new champion. I think Sammy retains. I wouldn't take the title off him this early after beating Gunther Bronson probably takes the loss that way Gable can claim that he wasn't penned. I at some point it feels like Gable is going to win this title with the help from the creeds. Like that's going to happen at some point. I just don't think it's going to happen at this show. The new team angle with Chad Gable, the creeds and Kurt Angle as our manager. Yeah, I mean, that seems where they're headed. Do you think Kurt Angle is actually to come back with a manager? No, I think as it wasn't there like some random like rumblings about that maybe happening with like Chad Gable and Kurt Angle or maybe Angle said like he'd be interested in doing it or something. I feel like I heard that pretty recently. It's something obviously everyone's always in their mind had that idea, especially when Kurt Angle announced he had a son and then a lot of me, Jason Jordan, everyone was like, wait, we all thought Chad Gable made sense. But I don't know. I like the idea of Chad Gable with the creeds though. I know that they've been training or whatever together and stuff. So I think Chad Gable's eventually going to win the title also. But I think this was a triple threat so that Bronson Reed could eat the pen from St. Louis Aynn. Yeah. And then yeah, the last one we got here, but I'm assuming he's going to be the main event. Cody Rhodes, defending the UW to be on the speed of championship against Logan Paul. Logan Paul of course is the United States champion, but he's not going to be putting his title on the line. There was some mix up there in confusion about the contract situation and Cody essentially was like, you know what? We went from like, I really want to be grandent to him champion to like screw it. Like, I don't really care about being grandent to him champion. Like, I still think Logan's doing well and the Mike and stuff though. Like, they're doing what they need. It sucks, in my opinion, from the perspective of like, that they, that they advertise champion versus champion and then decided not to do that. And here's the thing, I don't think Cody Rhodes needs to win the United States championship. Like, I'm about disappointed that he's not going to be a champ champ because then you pigeonhole either the US championship or Cody or, I mean, like, you got to get out of that when you have the double titles thing. Either has to give it up and they have to do a tournament or he's going to be the Seth Rollins thing and like, you know, lose one of the titles, but not the other one. And then just, I don't like the idea of all that, especially because the US titles, the fun of what mid card title, Cody's already the undefeated champion, the top championship, just beat from him for this thing. So anyway, he doesn't need the US title. I'll just put it that way. But it's weird that they advertise, champion versus champion. And then the story was basically Logan saying, you're, you're signing a contract that I don't agree with. Here's the contract that I've got. It's like, okay, then Cody was like, okay, well, I'll sign this one then. So, okay, so, but I think the actual match is going to be awesome. As we can't ask, it will be AJ Styles, Cody Rhodes level, probably not, because I mean, I'm going to still keep it real and realistic here, like, as much as I love Logan Paul's working the WWE and how great I think he's been and innovative. Like, and he's hitting difficult moves and stuff. And some of the time he's holding up a phone, a phone doing selfies and videos and stuff, as he's doing the moves live and what not, like, what he's doing is impressive. He's an athletic guy. He's got a gift to gab. He's very unlikable. It's, but he's not, he's legitimately in the conversation, in my opinion, of like, greatest professional wrestler ever, like, so I'm not going to put those guys in the same category here. But I think Logan Paul's capable of having a really, really damn good match with Cody Rhodes. The two of them putting their heads together, you know, kind of playing things out. I think it won't be as good as the AJ match, but I think it's still going to be like, you know, it's going to be, it's going to exceed people's expectations, I think. Will it get a Dave Meltzer five star rating? I don't know, but I think it gets at least four stars. I put that out there. I'm sure it'll be a good match. Cody's very good wrestler. Logan Paul has been good in the limited, uh, not really limited, but you know, in the, in the matches he's had, he's had overall limited matches. He's been tasked with doing big, main event type matches, and he's been very good on them. I think the, my issue with it is a, once again, just feels like it's a challenge up in the month type thing for, for Cody, instead of something more long-term and sustainable. That would have been anybody, that would have been anybody though with the pay per views being the other. Okay. One, that's fair. Two, I don't think it needed to be Logan because he's the US champion and you could have done that. I'll agree with that. I'll agree with that point 100%. The double champion thing and him being the champ, that I'll agree there, but like, no matter what, you're having to hot chop something with the pay per views being so close together. I'm like, could have done something more long-term if they wanted to. They, they could have, this doesn't feel like it's, this could have been the start of something instead of, I don't think him and Logan are going to continue this once it's over. Like, do you think it would have been better to, honest question, like, do you, do you think this would have been better if they would have run back him and AJ? I think he could have run back him and AJ. Like, then you get into, okay, Cody's just going to beat AJ again. It doesn't feel like it's the, the start of anything, like long-term. It doesn't feel like it's the continuation of anything. It feels like, Logan Paul is your next challenger, even though he's the US champion. Now, it's not for the title. And then Logan's going to move on to defend the US title after this. Cody's going to move on to his next challenger. Like, you could have actually started something potentially with this or you could have just done AJ again. I don't know. AJ won a tournament, so that's how he got his title shot. He lost. I don't know what the argument for AJ would be to get back unless he just beats the shit out of Cody a lot. And then Cody gets fed up and is like, okay, you know what? Fine. You want your rematch so bad, we can do this again, but we're going to do this type of match. Yeah. I mean, that's really the only thing with like, Cody being the champion and him having this whole built-in feud with The Rock that's kind of on hold right now is this, this was kind of the, not, not that Logan Paul was the only option or like 80,000 is the only option, but I understand the decisions in just like, for the time being, it feels like they're just getting challenges out there. So Cody can get title defenses in like really good in-ring wrestling matches for these PLEs. But at the same time, he doesn't have to be, because the other alternative would be him continuing to feud with the bloodline probably, because that's been the main thing he's been doing essentially for the better part of the last two years. But like, you have, you don't really, in my opinion, I don't really want to see him like feuding with the bloodline right now still. Like, I don't need to see him versus solo and him versus Tomatanga and Tonga Lo and stuff. Like, so I actually prefer what they're doing right now with them just having to go out there, have great matches, almost is like one-off, just good title defenses. But, because in the back of our mind, we still know like, when The Rock comes back, that's happening. And like, there's going to be buildup to that. And we're eventually going to find out, you know, I talked about this off air with you and I won't go that into it. Always sunny and Philadelphia fans will understand this reference. But like, it's funny to me that the bloodline has become ask-he-hers united. And what I mean by that is like, solo sakoa is claiming he's talking with Roman Reigns. Like, they're master, basically. He's talking to Roman Reigns. But like, in reality, the Supreme Overlord master is going to be the rock. Like, we're going to find out The Rock's the one actually calling the orders to solo sakoa. So there is stuff that Cody can do within the bloodline story still to continue to build to The Rock's return when that happens. But in the meantime, I'm cool with him wrestling AJ and then Logan and then Gunther, you know what I mean? Like, just stuff like that. Okay. Yeah. Hopefully, Cody gets something bigger coming out of the show. Hey, I'm, dude, I'm all down for Cody getting the biggest and the best. I'm all, I, dude, don't come up with great stories for him. And as long as he's having good matches and the fans keep responding, how they're responding, keeps singing the theme song, doing the chance, he's bringing kids into the ring and how shows still and all that. I mean, just keep doing what he's doing. He's the man. Somebody mentioned also, we got another Super Chat, but somebody mentioned also something about Uncle Howdy's new stable. I have not kept up with that at all. I know that that's like, apparently like Braun Strowman. I know Braun Strowman's back, but apparently Eric Rowan is going to be coming back in. Is there anything you want to talk about or say about, I've not called that at all. Like, is Uncle Howdy going to be coming back soon? Like, is that it's going to be happening? It seems like it. It seems like it's going to happen soon. I don't know when they're doing something else tonight on Twitch. It's getting a little bit something on Twitch. Well, last week they did, like, it was a therapist and was talking to somebody, allegedly Uncle Howdy, and was getting like past notes. And now the therapist is missing. And then, you know, there's been QR codes and notes and now there's another Twitch thing tonight. I don't know what it's going to be, but hopefully it's not 55 minutes like it was last week. It was 55 minutes. The Twitch, like the Twitch stream or whatever that they, is it live or they just were airing like a recorded video? That's a record. I assume it's a recorded thing. I don't think it's a live thing. It was just a recorded video of this therapy session with the now missing therapist. It's interesting. They're doing that on Twitch. But it makes, I know that they have some, WWE has some deal with Twitch now. So, I mean, it makes sense. But that's, that's been one thing that's been like completely off of my radar, has been the Uncle Howdy return. So. At some point, they actually have to do the return and then do a feud. Like they, you can't just keep doing QR codes and teases forever. At some point, there's going to be return a feud. I don't know what brand they're going to be on because the QR codes have been on raw and smackdown. So I have no idea what that looks like. I don't know what it looks like, even like without Bray. And I loved the Bray stuff, like not even unironically. Like I, I thought it was just fantastic because I like over the top silly stuff like that. But I have no idea what this looks like once it's actually like on television because the Bray stuff, I know a lot of people didn't like it and it felt very separate of the rest of the show. Like, yeah, he feuded with LA night and then try to get something going with Lashley. Yeah, that's ruled. Like it felt very, a lot of it just felt very separate and no knock on Bo Dallas and no knock on the rest of this group. Not having Bray might come off a little watered down. And I think that's a big worry with this whole thing is not having the big focal, this big centerpiece of it. And obviously, it's something they feel comfortable doing. It's something they want to do to, it's Bray Wyatt's birthday today, by the way. They want to do to honor the legacy of Bray Wyatt. So I don't think it's anything, oh, they're forced to doing it and everything. Like it feels like something they want to do. They want to try to continue on. You got to worry about that him not being there. So that's how sadly Dark Order felt once Brody passed Dark Order, like they tried, but without Brody, it just wasn't the same. And now with the without Bray, because I imagine this is a continuation of what he kind of wanted to do with the Wyatt six stuff, which was a longtime rumored, and it seems like that's the direction they were potentially headed. And to be fair, that direction, in my opinion, was pretty bad. Like in no disrespect to Bray Wyatt, rest in peace, happy birthday. I obviously am not talking down on the man, you know, window, pretend I'm not, but the Uncle Howdy stuff was super lame to me. Like, you know what I mean? Like it was a very goofy, like, though, like people didn't like it. Again, I'm like the minority. I feel like who actually liked it. Right. He was like giggling and was like clearly like Bo Dallas's voice and stuff. It was very, it just didn't, in the Mountain Dew pitch black match was awful. So I don't think this was heading in a good direction to begin with. And now he's not there. I'm a little, I mean, I'm skeptical as well. But like you said, I'll, you know, wait, I'm not against the idea of paying tribute to your brother. I'm not against the idea like Bo Dallas, I think in the grand scheme of things was probably pretty underutilized. Like he had a lot of potential coming out of NXT or FCW slash NXT. And you know, the whole boat leave thing actually had a little potential. And then he just, you know, the B team thing crushed him and all that social outcasts and stuff, whatever like just, he, he just didn't, he just didn't click or just didn't get the opportunity. So it's like, I'm not against the idea of him getting a chance either or like Rowan, you know, coming back and getting another chance and stuff like I'm not really against the idea of it. I just, I have the same kind of fears I think that you do or that like, that like the detractors or whatever it would have of like, it didn't seem like it was good initially. And now, now the original Bray Wyatt character, like the backwards cult leader guy, well, how Hawaiian t-shirt guys, I thought that was fantastic stuff. But like, where in my opinion devolved to where it was at towards the end there, like, but if they could pull it off, I hope, I'll put it this way. I hope that they pull it off. Like, I don't want this to go bad. I hope that this is successful for for Bo Dallas and for the other people involved and stuff. But I have the same kind of fears as you, and like, I think the, I think the Dark Order comparison is actually pretty on point as well. Like that, it changed completely when Brody wasn't there. So, I don't know. I think people are going to be willing to give it a chance, be because of the respect that they have for Bray. Yeah, I just don't know. I don't know what it's going to look like without him. And I don't know how it's going to look in the ring. I said it, they shouldn't wrestle at all. I don't want to see him wrestle, just do things yet. Do a bunch of magical stuff, cares about the wrestling stuff. Because that's where everybody would brave like, "Oh, well, and then the bell rang." That's the thing. Yeah, so don't ring the bell. Do a bunch of goofy stuff. I'm all for that. Don't ring the bell. Who cares about these wrestling matches? Yeah, the crazy thing is like, I actually agree with you. You know, like, sometimes some people are just, they're calling isn't the actual ring, but they should still be a part of the show. You remember Jason's sensation? Like, I was not a wrestler at all. Like, I entertained the hell out of me for like the short time he was on TV. Like, there's certain people that can like, find their spot in the company. But I mean, Bray, the thing with Bray though, that would have been tough is like, he's born into a wrestling family, probably always wanted to be a professional wrestler. Like, it'd probably be tough to tell a guy like that. Like, we don't really want you in the ring, but we want you as a big part of the show. I'd be like, screw that. I want a wrestle. You know what I mean? But, you know, when's the last time Bo Dallas actually wrestled? Oh, it's been forever. I mean, Cage match can probably tell us. Did he ever have an actual match as Uncle Howdy? He's in the video game as Uncle Howdy. The last time was 2019. Now, I don't think he actually wrestled as Uncle Howdy. He just did the big spot at Rumble and then like, showed up. Yeah. Yeah. We don't know the super chat that we missed. Oh, yeah. Over from Jenna. If Cody's reigns get stale, you can use the money in the bank to get the title off him, spice it up in years since Money in the Bank was used on the WWE championship. That's one possibility. I don't, I think he can lose the Gunther and be fine. I'm very curious as to what they do with men's money in the bank this year. There's a lot of options. That might, Cody said it himself that he wants to defend against LA Knight. Maybe this is the year LA Knight wins the briefcase. I can't think of anyone that'd be a better option at the moment. I mean, a lot of things can change. Why not that much can change, I guess. Like, it's like next month or whatever, isn't it? What Money in the Bank? Yeah. Yeah. Money in the Bank says this is July. So it's about a month. Yeah. Well, it's like a lot can happen between now and then, I mean, some stuff can happen, but not a whole lot. There's only also to think of that you would think would be a better option than LA and also LA Knights on SmackDown already. So like, yeah, so that would make sense. There's some potential or in turn looming. Yeah, they can do that should happen. How many Cody for the title should happen, for sure. Boarding, Cody. Gunther wins. Gunther gets King of the Ring and the Money in the Bank. Nah, it's possible. I don't think Gunther needs Money in the Bank. Yeah, they need it. I would just, yeah. And Baller winning Money in the Bank, I've seen people suggest that it's possible. How much longer before the Jesuit day turns on Damian? I don't think it's too much longer. Is Carlito in now? I missed Monday. Not really. Yeah, still trying to get in. Yeah, I'm trying to think is there anything else, anything else on King of the Ring that you're a? No, it's going to be a busy weekend. What time does it show at? It's in Saudi Arabia. Do I have to talk? One o'clock. Hell yeah, I like those. I like those afternoon. I really like the morning. Like when the UFC runs like 9 a.m. I love those shows. They're done. They're done at like, you know, the main card. Sometimes we've done it like noon, one, two, three in the afternoon. Sweet. But yeah, got a great rest of the weekend coming up, everyone. As you know, from all the predictions we just did, we got WWE King and Queen of the Ring. And we also got AEW double or nothing. And just real quick, I'm just looking to see if there's anything worth mentioning that happened over the weekend on the indie scene. Get AEW got one for the gold this weekend. That'd be a good show. Oh, yeah, I'll watch that. I'll cover that on the weekender. On the weekender will be on Monday, by the way, everybody, instead of Sunday. Since we got all these, the majors got the paper views this weekend and I'll need to probably catch up. And I'll be off work on Monday for Memorial Day for the shoot job. So, um, but uh, sorry, got a text message, but um, that's what I got. Good. Yeah, I don't have to work on Monday. So I'll work for the weekender on Monday for you guys and it'll be out, probably like Monday afternoon. Um, John Moskey showed up at Revolver this past weekend. That was pretty cool. There's a lot of stuff with Revolver. Obviously has a long, long time ties with Sammy Callahan. I thought it was cool. He showed up. He had a double armed DDT on JP Dunn as well. A little later on the show. They did. Yeah. Sammy Callahan. And Moskey suggested that they fire him and took the Moxley over here, getting people fired. Yes. Trying to thank GCW. There was two shows and most notorious in Sunday night special. Sunday night special was a pretty cool show because it was, you know, completely unannounced. So the audience had no idea which wrestlers were there or who would be wrestling one another. Um, so it was fun. I'm trying to think of there's anything. Oh, yeah, they set up. Um, so we got terminus revival and cages survival coming up soon. And the situation, the scenario that I came up with for spring break, the exact thing can now wind up happening for tournament survival and cage survival weekend. So Mance Warner and Effie are going to be in the cage against one another. And this could be the blow off finally of their, their feuds. It's been going on forever with all these no contests and stuff going on. And that spans beyond GCW, by the way. There's been matches and other indie shows between SGC members like these keep ending in no DQ or no, no contests because Mance Warner, the attacking record, just free drivers and stuff. But, uh, they're doing Effie versus Mance Warner. And they're also doing Joey Janelle's rematch against Blake Christian for the, for the GCW world title, who Janelle had demanded it in Cardona, the new, the new GM of GCW Matt Cardona said this is Janelle's last shot. So it's very possible, even though it didn't happen, it's spring break. It's a very possible, we still get Joey Janelle, Effie defeats Mance Warner, cage survival and Joey Janelle defeats Blake Christian for the GCW world title. And then Mance Warner caches in his title shot against Joey Janelle. Literally the scenario I came up for spring break just got delayed. So I could wind up happening. So I'll throw that out there. Um, and Cole Ryder still got the brass ring. So, um, don't know what he's going to do with that, but he's got a match coming up with, uh, oh my gosh, he's about to wrestle. He got a death match coming up. Can't remember. Sorry Cole, can't remember who you're wrestling. They said they set it up on this show on, oh, Mance Warner, duh, he's wrestling man soon too, you know, in like a death match or something. So now Cole's still in the mix. Hopefully he gets the tag title. Well, I hate saying this. I don't want to see him get the tag title. So I want to see violence as forever. Keep holding those. I want to see Cole go after the world championship, honestly, but I don't want to see him, you know, abandon our price either because I like the poverty daddy. So Cole's in a good spot though and didn't you see that, because that brass ring. West Coast Pro also mentioned real quick, uh, they had Marafuji versus, um, Titus Alexander, on the West Coast Pro show that was free on YouTube, really good match worth checking out. Uh, Levi Shapiro lost his title shot opportunity against Kevin Blackwood, but he thought he won, but he actually won up losing. He pinned him for three, but the foot was on the ropes and then Blackwood, why we're planning. So there's probably the biggest things that happened in the, uh, there's a good glory pro ascend main event. If y'all want to check that out over on YouTube, or pro wrestling, uh, more horse defended the crown glory championship against KLD, big fan of both of those guys. Um, M. L. W. I think it was, uh, your Jima. Yeah. Could Jima defend against Manders? That was a good one. There's a lot of Larry Otto's at the end of that one. A lot of jid near falls. Um, I kind of think, I know Atticus wrestled also. I can't remember whether we were around. So it was for revolver, revolver was Atticus Kogar. That was the main event of revolver Atticus Kogar versus Alice Cologne. They had a death match that was disgustingly brutal and violent. You'd imagine Atticus wound up winning, put, uh, put Cologne in his own move, put him in a camel clutch and then took a bundle of skewers and just stabbed him in the head until the referee stopped it. So yeah. Anyways, uh, anything else you'd like to add for the, uh, the weekend of the indies before we get out here? I did like the Titus Alexander and Marfouji match. I've not watched the full West Coast Pro show. Uh, I did watch that match and that was great show of respect afterwards as well. And no Titus was, uh, pumped about it. So everyone should check that out. That's if I had an indie spotlight, that would be my, the spotlight is Titus against Marfouji. Um, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I tried that match out. It was fantastic. And, and, uh, after the match, uh, Titus gets on the microphone, even though he's a heel at West Coast Pro right now, he cuts a, a promo about how much, you know, how much he was looking forward to that, how much respect you got from Marfouji, how much the crowd respects Marfouji and Marfouji got, like, and I send off, you know, um, Marfouji won the match as well. But, um, yeah. Yeah. Good stuff. Oh, yeah. You said defeated Tyson Fury also. That's not wrestling related, but yeah, in the boxing world, that was a pretty big deal. You said now is the first guy I think ever now that it's got like the four. Yeah, he's undisputed heavyweight champion first undisputed champion since the holy field in 2000 or Lennox Lewis, maybe, um, Lewis and like 2000, but that was the during the, like three title. Now they've added even more titles. And so he's the first in the four title era. Good for him. Good for him. And he sees, and he sees stuff you've been keeping up with, anything you're looking forward to? No, I have no idea what's coming up. I know Connor's fighting pretty soon, right? Connor and Chandler is pretty soon. Um, the next pay per view is in a couple weeks, I think. And that's, uh, Dustin Poirier is getting a shot against Islam Onkajev for the lightweight title. Um, I feel like Poirier just lost. No, he just, he just won. He beat this guy, uh, Daniel St. Benoit. Um, but the last time I remember seeing Poirier, I thought it was Chandler and Chandler or Gaichi, Gaichi knocked him out. That was the last time I remember watching Poirier fight. Oh, Poirier has beaten him, Gaichi since then, in the rematch. Uh, not according to Wikipedia. Or to gauge you in the rematch. They fight each other twice. Did Poirier win the first one? Yeah. Poirier won the first one in 2018. Didn't they run that back more recently? Yeah, Gaichi knocked him out with a headkick. Oh, that's right. That's right. Poirier beat St. Benoit, or however you say his name, but there is another one. No, Gaichi. He beat Michael Chandler. Poirier beat Michael Chandler at UFC 281. That was November of 2022. And then he lost to Gaichi and then he beat Santini. Okay. Okay. That's the Chandler fight. It was the one that I was confusing with the yeah, Gaichi. He said he had, he had kicked down. Um, I think, I don't even know what else is on that pay-per-view coming up. But I think they're, like, I know like, Paulo Costa is fighting, uh, Sean Strick one soon. That's unfortunate. Yeah, that's on that, that's on this card. It's on that state card. Yeah, 302. Yeah. Um, that doesn't be fights. We're, we're occur in, uh, in Chameia. I'm pretty sure are fighting pretty soon. Um, that'll be a pretty, pretty interesting one. Um, but yeah, they got, that's some good fights coming up. UFC 300 was awesome, but USC 301 was, was not someone said, yeah, or was it, was it Jersey? All the, Jersey, all just came back and fought on that Brazil pay-per-view. Oh, yeah. 301. It was cool to see him back, but like that was such like a, what's, what's to get this guy? Cause no one's going to buy this thing. It was headline like people know when knows. Um, but, uh, yeah. We can get on out here. We were, we, we're straight away to the point of, uh, talking about UFC fights and only cares about. All right. Uh, look at one of those WWE shows in the apex. Do you want to plug anything? Uh, follow me on X and fight talk underscore. Uh, listen to the fightful select weekend or podcast. That's going to be, uh, Oh, yeah. I say, I, I plug my, my X fight talk underscore, uh, code fight talk and independent wrestling.tv. Listen to the weekender over on Fightful Select.com. Normally on Sundays, it'll be on Monday this week. I'll upload it on Memorial Day for y'all. And, uh, I appreciate all the birthday wishes and everything. A shock has fun with T. Wills fan. I was, when I was younger, I'm more of a Hawks fan now because like I get to go to the games in Atlanta, but, um, I am pulling for the T. Wills to win the NBA championship though. I have been watching most of the playoffs, but, uh, but yeah, thanks everyone once again for all the birthday wishes. Thank you, Jeremy and to your wife for both reaching out and wishing me happy birthday as well. Thank you Joel for jumping on this show and saying happy birthday. I appreciate it, man. 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