Dan and Sat are joined by former Vancouver Canuck Manny Malhotra who was named the new Head Coach of the Abbotsford Canucks earlier today. The guys speak about buy in from the players and the excitement and energy surrounding the Canucks organization after a successful season. Landon Ferraro then joins the show to break down what went wrong for the Canucks down the stretch of their season and shed some light onto his experience going through the grind of playoff hockey following a full season.
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Shaw here in the kintec studio kintec Canada's favorite orthotics provider powered by thousands of five-star Google reviews sort feet what are you waiting for kanak central is for enzyme Pacific Vancouver's premier Chrysler Dodge Ram and Jeep Superstore on 2nd Avenue between can be in Maine or at enzyme Pacific Chrysler dot CA we have a little bit of a change in programming we won't open the show with the open today as we are expecting to chat with new Abbott's food Canucks head coach Manny Malholtra here in a few minutes and that was the big news of the day here sat the Canucks have made it official it was a little bit out of left fields and Manny Malholtra's the new head coach of the Abbott's food Canucks yeah and you're right we're opening a bit different we're doing a bit of soft open for the first segment we'll do the full open coming up up for 30 but a bit surprise yeah that it was many that got the job in Abbissford and we kind of caught wind of this - that Colton may have not be coming back and you know through it was first reported by Dolly wall that looked like there was going to be a split and then Murph reported that Colton was offered a two-year contract and since then we've come to learn that the main reason for it is Colton wanted to have outs in his contract to allow him to pursue some NHL jobs and I think that was a sticky point I think the Canucks want to have some continuity in Abbissford to not have a guy who's going to be there for just a year so I think they kind of got their guy here that obviously has put a lot of time in to become a coach he was with the Canucks staff some years ago went to Toronto he really worked his way up and it seems to me that this step for Manny Melhotra as a step he has to make before his NHL head coach and it's only a matter of time before he gets there in the release Patrick Alvin saying bringing in someone who is familiar with the organization is a big win for us Manny's experience in hockey development and coaching has prepared him really well for this head coaching opportunity we look forward to working with him and providing our staff in Abbissford all the support they need to continue to develop our players and I think Abbissford has had I mean it's been a really solid part of the organization over the last couple of years you know you know the AHL connection was not going all that well in the previous regime and it's one of the first things president of hockey ops Jim Rutherford identified as something that has to get better the club had just moved to Abbissford when Jim Rutherford took over and he mentioned something along the lines of we've got to get Abbissford right we've got to start developing more players and you know they've they've started to do that you know they had to dip into the AHL during the playoffs and we've seen a lot more players come through and have an impact at the NHL level let's bring in our next guest Manny Melhotra a couple of years as a player with the Vancouver Canucks had been a part of coaching staff for a number of years and is returning to be the head coach of the Abbissford Canucks thanks for this Manny congratulations on the new gig my pleasure thanks for having me on guys yeah thanks for for making time for us so how did this come about when the news release dropped today I think everybody in Vancouver was super excited but it also came a little bit out of left field how did this go down um started about a week and a half ago the Canucks requested permission to talk to me regarding this position so speaking with Ryan Johnson over the next few days just in terms of what this opportunity would look like and obviously he was extremely excited with the group that's in Abbissford the way they're headed the projection of them and obviously with the growth and development of what's going on in Vancouver so obviously a very exciting time to be a Vancouver Canucks and I was extremely fortunate and happy to have this opportunity come about well you know you spent the last seven years being an assistant this first started in Vancouver for three years and you've been in with Toronto the Leafs the past four years and it makes sense for this to be the transition to being a head coach and how appealing was that for you to have a chance to run your own bench it's really appealing when you talk about the growth and evolution of a coach having done that the system role for a number of years over a couple of staffs and and seeing the way things were run and taking bigger picking on bigger responsibilities from year to year I felt like now was the time to take that next step in my in my coaching journey and I've learned a lot from a lot of really good coaches along the way so I feel like it's my time to apply those things and really looking forward to running my own bench I guess a bonuses you'll be close to Sun Kaleb will be playing in the BCHL next year with Chilliwack One of the negative parts about the coaching being lifestyle in a coaching career is that you got to move to the work so with Kaleb heading to Chilliwack being that much closer to him and making it obviously a much easier destination for family to come visit was very appealing as well well and as far as the time you spent over the course of a couple of staffs getting to know how to be an NHL coach at the very least and on the assistant level like how much did you learn in terms of how to frame being a head coach now for the first time like how much stuff you kind of put down a note saying okay if I get my chance to do things I'll take some of these things but also there are certain things I envision I would like to do myself if I get the opportunity yeah that just a collection over the years even even from my playing days playing for different coaches and seeing how different organizations will run you kind of develop this this mental book and especially as a coach you start taking notes more often so there's definitely good and bad of every organization there's good and bad of every coach and and you learn what what works and what dies with certain players and looking to apply those things now and that's that's kind of one of the things that intrigued me the most about coaching is the fact that you're you're dealing with individuals and everybody learns things a different way everybody understand and heres things a different way so the ability to communicate to different athletes and teach in different ways and one thing that's really appealing to me and I've learned over the years is is obviously very important in terms of getting your message across well and that communication that one-on-one time you know over the course of the season I guess it can be hard but especially in you know a spot where you are also going to be developing players for for the big club you know how much over that is especially in the modern day you know working with each player and finding what each like what makes each guy tick because not every player is not every person is the same yeah like I said before that's one of the most intriguing things for me is is getting to know guys and understand like you said what makes them tick and what cues they respond to how they interpret information whether they're visual learners what they need to see it whether they need to hear it that's one of the things that's really intriguing to me but also as you as you alluded to with the group of prospects that's in Abitsford and the way that NHL clubs are built now you need to develop from within so the fact that I was trusted with that responsibility means a lot to me knowing how important it is to be able to develop players within your system develop draft picks and have them ready to move on within a number of years is is one of the things that excites me most about the job and as I said I feel very privileged and honored that the RJ has the confidence in me to do that well and as far as how you reach you know building off of that we've been having a lot of conversations about how good Rick talk it's been for this team this past year how you got that buy-in and we oftentimes hear about coaches who have strengths as being somebody who gets buy-in others that have a strengths as being a tactician is getting buy-in the single most important thing that you have to do as a head coach reaching your players I I would say that has to be close to the top of the list if not top top of the list as you look at all the successful teams especially at the NHL level the teams that go the deepest the team that that win consistently the one phrase that you hear over and over is that they've bought in they bought into checking they bought into the details of the game and the buy-in starts with your lead players with your with the veteran guys with your most prominent players your first second-line guys they have to be leading the charge so that's definitely one of the main components of a quality head coach in my opinion is somebody that can find ways for everybody to be on the same page and buy into whatever the message is for that day I guess the the the hardest part of of that equation is well guys want to score a lot of guys of in a you know in a AHL situation have probably come up from you know just playing in junior maybe scored a lot of points there after they were drafted and even in the NHL you know guys want to score they want to be able to set themselves up for for their next contract but sometimes buying in means having to sacrifice offense in certain moments and I guess that's the the hardest part of of getting full buy-in from a team team well it's it there's a very fine balance there as you said obviously players want to showcase themselves they want to put their best foot forward and want to produce points however when you when you approach it from a team standpoint and you have that buy-in and you have some guys committed to playing the right way more often you'll find that production happens as a result of that buy-in so again it's it's a very fine line and and once you demonstrate and once you show guys that their individual success will be highlighted within a team structure it will be amplified in as a matter of fact within a team structure that's when you'll see success take place and we'll see growth from guys as opposed to that first mentality you tend to see a lot of those those types of players in that type of mentality go the opposite way well the really cool thing about when you see teams of all players at the AHL level is obviously you have players you're trying to nurture into skilled players that have high pedigree have a lot of talent trying to take term into being productive you know higher end players at the AHL level but there are also guys you're trying to turn into just everyday NHL players guys are still trying to find a niche trying to find a role and you obviously have a unique perspective being a top seven draft pick and you have to reinvent your game over the course of your career to become one of the best two-way players and obviously had a lot of success in part of that being in Vancouver what is it like trying to reach a player who maybe feels like okay I have this level of talent I've always been a score and I kind of feel like I'm not there at this level and how do you get a player like that to buy into and perhaps develop his game to find a role that he can be successful and the national hockey league that's different from what he envisioned coming into the program well that that's always a major part of becoming a pro and you talk about developing players and you're talking about developing guys that have the pro mentality and that is quite often the case at the NHL level where you're you're obviously getting the best of the best majority of guys in the national hockey league at some point in their career especially their youth career were the guy they were the power play guy they were the family coach I never come off the ice guy and now to not not get to the NHL but to stay in the NHL and to be productive and create a career for yourself you'll find that guys who understand that they have to create it or find something else to be good at and latch on to is where you get pros got pros from the guys that can adapt that mentality so especially at the NHL level helping thing guys kind of tune into what they do well and enhance those things and work on those things and and allow them to apply them in a game situation is gonna be a big part of it and and another part of that would be putting them in positions to succeed you know just putting them in situations that can highlight their talents whether that be in a scoring role whether that be in a shutdown role whether that being in two minutes at the end of the game but a large part of the job and coaching staff is to help players find that find that skill set that perhaps they haven't quite tapped into yet and allow them to to grow and develop that how do you see the game the way that it's played now and and where it's going from from where I said especially watching here during during the playoffs you just see so many teams how well they defend how little space there is on the ice but also offensively and we saw this with with the Canucks this year really looking for specific shots shot selection and choosing quality over quantity with their shots it feels like a part of the analytical age that's coming into the game right now yeah well I find as you watch playoff hockey it's obviously extremely exciting it's intense very close scoring games those things will never change the fundamentals of the game the basis for the game will never change it's whoever executes it at the highest for the longest time is it is generally going to be the winning team but in terms of the way the game is played you see how fast it is in every regard defending is faster close plays quicker obviously defending defending at net that front is never going to be a thing of a pass so the ability just to suppress off and suppress secondary chances at net front is a big part of the game and then again that pace in transition once you defend well the ability to get up the ice and transition counter so I think just teaching the overall speed of the game it's it's just getting faster every year it seems to get faster and faster guys can skate much much better these days are much more mobile you see mobile defense when I can kill plays quickly being a big part of the way the game is played at the NHL now so I think that's gonna be a big part of my focus is is teaching that that pace in all three zones well you get a chance to also work with the sedines again in the past few years they've been you know really tied in closely with what's happening in Abistrud as well have you had any conversations about them in terms of you know getting being able to work together to some degree at the Abistrud level as well their name came up obviously in conversations with with RJ I literally have to get back and I'm on a text message right now my phone's been blowing up for the last right two hours so I haven't had a chance to respond to everybody yet but no they are definitely two big reasons why I'm really excited to be in this role right now having the opportunity to work with those two guys again knowing what they're capable of and having seen it firsthand what what they've done as players and the way they carry themselves as people is something that that I definitely want to be around again but then just in hearing their day-to-day operations and how they want to be a part of it and how they want to help develop this next generation of player that can be speaks to who they are that's that's just who they are they want to help in any way possible and and what better way than being on the ice with the guys and teaching in firsthand what it takes to to be successful at the next level Manny it's it's been great chatting congratulations again on on getting this gig and it's good to have you back in the lower mainland thank you so much guys really appreciate it there is a Manny Malholtra the new head coach of the Abbotsford Canucks and it's seems like a match that is perfect for the organization right Manny knows the organization well has been developing as a coach as an assistant at the NHL ranks with the Canucks and then of course with the Maple Leafs the last couple of years and this is kind of the the next step you have to take if you are planning or have ideas of being a NHL head coach down the line yeah absolutely and and we know that that's obviously something that he wants to do he wants to be be a head coach at some point and for you to be able to go through these this many levels right go so 70 years of being an assistant and then getting a couple years maybe two or three years of the AHL level he's going to set Manny up to get an NHL job obviously it depends on how things go in Abbotsford but as long as things go relatively well right that he meets expectations like he's setting himself up for an NHL job and given his reputation given his smart art given how hard he's worked I don't think it's going to be far too long down the road in the future we see him being the head coach behind the NHL bench yeah and it's you know I think Abbotsford is a is a key part of you know the Canucks maximizing this window that they now find themselves in right Patterson is going to cost more he uses do for I mean it's still a while yet before he uses in need of a new contract but you know you're always going to need players coming through developing players on cheaper contracts that can provide an impact this year you had Nils Holglonder that that came up Noah Julesen was a good find and somebody that's been you know finding himself after a tough start to his NHL career with Abbotsford and then found a role for himself on this Canucks team like you're going to need that and and probably even more over over the next couple of years and it's it's got to go beyond like Romacki and Tom Valander you've got a you've got a fine guys that aren't the most obvious prospects that you drafted in the first round just you can't just have those guys you need to get them from elsewhere you really do and based on everything we hear from this organization this front office I should say they're big on trying to find guys not just in the draft we've seen the guys have already brought in right I mean Nils Holm on being the UFA draft the player who became a free agent who they signed and he's an NHL player for them they've gone after you know college free agents as well so they are going through pretty much every avenue to try to find players and you're so right we oftentimes look at development and the prospect system and really spend a lot of time looking at the top-end guys that you know it's like well who's going to be able to play your top six who's going to be at the top line forward who's going to be a you know top pairing defense or second pairing defense but starting goaltender but if you can build guys out that are playing on your third third line your fourth line your third deep air even having those guys come in cheap and give you legitimate minutes like it's the best thing you can have for your organization one because it creates a good environment for development players when it comes to your system to develop and become NHL players it creates a good morale throughout an organization we build guys through I mean you see it all across in different sports European soccer especially you see how happy everybody gets when an academy player gets up to them they out squat and what that means for the entire organization so I think there are similar things going on here too at the NHL level and if next year the cracks are kind of hoping that there's six seven defense men know julson will be their six maybe seven that the eighth guy or seven eight guy julson's the sixth guy is somebody in Abistford does that mean it's McWort is that mean perhaps even Elias Patterson can knock on that door and find his way in or you're looking at like they mention up front with a forward group as our steep pains they see you to be a guy leanest Carlson can put goals and take the jump that whole letter took last year and I think those are the things you're kind of hoping for this upcoming seasons and which would give this organization a lot of value even if those guys are playing secondary roles yeah and it's it's just it's a prerequisite to to winning a Stanley Cup and having a quality organization that's good at the top of the league for a lot of years so this is a very exciting hire for the Vancouver Canucks not to say that Jeremy Colton wasn't doing a good job but you know they could they could come to an agreement on a contract extension and the Canucks went about filling that vacancy with the HL team and get somebody it's got a lot of you know familiarity with the market and is well thought of around the league I think that goes without saying when it comes to Manny Malholtra it's Dan Richer and Sati our shot coming up we're gonna get to the open and more on the offseason for the Vancouver Canucks as there was some interesting tidbits that were going around today regarding what the Canucks could be up to and how silly season is in full swing in the national hockey league it's Dan Richer sati are you're the windmills turning yeah rumor mills turning the rumor mills turning it feels like the Daily Mail is just reporting all kinds of potential off-season trade stories and transfer stories for the Vancouver Canucks now I don't know but the Canucks are good and people are interested in what the Canucks might be doing we'll get to that in the open next on Canucks Central we're back on Canucks Central it's Dan Richer sati our shot hour number two it's Friday we'll have the mailbag coming up so get your questions in if you haven't already but I do warn you we already have a lot of questions that have come in as a mailbag Friday is always well attended amongst Canucks Central nation all right let's bring our next guest it's Landon Ferraro joining us he's been an analyst for us here during the course of the playoffs thanks for this Landon how are you doing doing pretty good guys how are you we're doing well I just want to point out that the Canucks didn't win a game after Landon became the intermission analyst for game six well I'm not saying it's your fault Landon I'm just saying like wow what an odd coincidence well it's where you bring that out because I was gonna say like I felt like I had some pretty bad leadership in my first ever game so I mean we can figure out where the blame is down the line here I guess yeah it's way way to put it back on us I like that it's it's I love how reach is like lobbying them it's lobbying these grenades like I was well I was working with Landon Landon I'm not the one saying this stuff man we got some tough guys in the locker room right now just all kidding aside it's been it's been great having you on during the playoffs and you know it's a lot of the things that we talked about during the course of the series with the Oilers kind of started to play out even more in games six and seven with the Canucks you know really struggling to generate offense and we saw the Oilers take over the series a little bit more they started to win the neutral zone and really cause the Canucks all kinds of problems what did you see that happened in game six and seven is the Oilers that turned that series around yeah you know I think I think honestly just down to simple of I think the Vancouver Canucks just kind of ran out of gas they had a couple injuries that you know with best are going out for game seven and you know tempo leaving early like by no means were they lucky to get where they were through this season or the playoffs like they earned everything that they got but it just felt like a team that it was kind of their first time there and I don't get a moment got too big for them because I think you know they tried their hardest it just it got away from them a little bit and I always listen to you guys earlier and and through the media availability today and you know one of the points that they put out was the travel this year and playoffs that they didn't have in the bubble and like playoffs are hard and the travel being added on to it doesn't help anything and you know it's a learning experience yeah absolutely there is right and as one of the things that kind of stood out to and you heard the the coach talk about this is towards the end of the season they didn't love the mentality that the players had that they need to be better in practice need to be a bit more prepared for the games down the stretch and is it right for them to point out now that probably the reason they came up short was as much as they had a lot of great work and to this point there's still more they could have done to be better prepared for that moment in game seven especially in the second round 100% and I don't think that there's no blame on anyone for that I think that's just something you have to learn like you don't realize what you can push your body to when you get into a playoffs like I was lucky enough to win a Calder Cup in the American Hockey League and we won in game six of the finals against Tampa's farm team that had Kucharov and those guys and it was our hundredth game of the season and if you would have asked me before the year you know could you play a hundred games 24 of them in playoffs I'd be like I don't know if I can't it sounds fun but I don't know if I can't and you get to the end of it you realize like I can push my body to points that I didn't think were possible and that's what the guys kind of found here is guaranteed they're sitting around and you know after the next couple days they're hanging out as they're getting settled and ready to move you know get back to wherever home is they're talking of that was a lot harder than I expected but like man we were right there like that stuff is fire for the summer like every little bit where you're like okay I got three more reps as I'm doing whatever I'm doing in the gym and it's getting a little tough like it's corny that sounds like that stuff flashes back in your head and you push those extra reps out like guys are gonna come back hungry and that's that's the exciting part once you know the management can figure out what to do with the roster yeah and there's there there is a lot of work to do with the roster but you know for a young player I mean you're you came up with the Detroit Red Wings all the big names Dot Suks at a Berg I think I think Allfordson was part of the team when when you first came up into the league you played some playoff games with them I mean that that the Red Wings were kind of viewed as the ultimate culture you won the Calder Cup there as well with the organization I mean what was and how did that you know was there an eye opening sort of moment for you as as that as you came up from the moment I stepped on the ice and training camp my first year you know I'd gone through through prospect camp and then you know big boy camp starts main camp starts and from the first day that I was out there you know with the wings they split the three different teams in camp and on my team was Lidstrom, Medano, Bertuzzi, Zetterberg and Dot Suks like I'm sitting in the dressing room as a 18 year old you're like oh my god where am I right now and then you step out on the ice and even though it's the first day I get camp for them so they're feeling it out like every pass was a rocket on a tape everything that they did was with purpose and you instantly felt as a young player like I have to get to this level bad like very quickly or I'm gonna look like a sore thumb and then the first time that I got called up and you get to practice and now it's the middle of the season and I remember massing up a drill like pretty quick into the morning skate and Babcock was you know he wasn't terrible about it but he definitely made his point like you need to know what's going on right like and that's what talk and and Elvian are talking about of you need to push every single day and you need your players to be pushing each other like when you're having a little bit of an off day you need some someone else to pick you up because all you're doing is building for the springtime once playoff start yeah absolutely and we know what I was just thinking about is it has to be so challenging confidence wise for an 18 year old or a 19 year old come into their first training camp and you're seeing these superstar players you think pretty highly of your own skill and ability get into this point and these guys are in a different strategy like how hard is that to kind of to and not only you know lose your coffee also I mean you can go two ways I guess you can lose your confidence and feel like man I got a long way to go be motivated but how jarring is that we see how high that level is the first time you step on the ice yeah I mean like I was drafted as a scorer right and you know at that age or like okay well I just got got drafted you know wings first pick thirty second overall like I got a long career ahead of me I would be unbelievable right like you're 18 you're excited and you're like the first day I step on the ice with that soup and I'm like I'm not a skilled guy anymore like I knew it right then like it's it's a different it's a different type of player and you know a quick story of it like we finished that first day of training camp and you're just messing around after practice and dad's who kind of taps me on the shin pad he said keep away those like of course like you know Pavel dad's who's asking me to play keep away we go to center ice or in Trapper City there's I think it holds about 3,000 and it's packed in there I didn't touch the puck for like five minutes I get a few people laughing like oh my god I had a smile in my face it was an amazing experience but I'm like this is you know he is a different player I'm not that and I knew right then I need to find a way that I could make it to a pro game yeah that's you know we hear those moments a lot and I think a lot of Canucks you know have started to we started to see some of the the Canucks players show that like Noah Juleson maybe drafted as a first round guy and has now found his way as a journeyman right shot defense we're probably playing a role for this team and and this organization is starting to develop role players more and it led to their success this year but ultimately you're gonna need a few more horses to to maybe be with the the teams that are in the final four right now and and that's the priority of the off season like when the Canucks lost Brock Besser you felt it in game seven yet you hope that they could overcome it for one game but even with Besser on the roster they were still missing just one like top six driver on this roster do you agree I agree like they need they needed help of course like they're scoring dried up a little bit on not a little bit it dried up and it got tough to score and it's hard to score on the playoffs and you know Patterson's been talked about a million times over but you know if he had someone and you know his own running mate to play with like that's a really scary top two and then if you had that and then you're dropping in the Lindooms line behind that you know for talking this past season like that team is very dangerous they need to find someone that can add that bit of spark they can play with a bit of heaviness like you know this is there's always been a debate and you kind of follow the Stanley Cup winner of you know how to make up a team but you know as you know people just generally get are getting bigger and bigger and bigger guys are being able to play more of a skilled game like you have to be able to be heavy on a puck especially when it gets into the playoffs and later into it like you have to be able to stand over it you have to be able to grind be out down low like if they could have added another five minutes of zone time four minutes of zone time you know every game or so in the Edmonton series like is Bouchard gonna be able to jump up as much as he even have the impact we don't know but I would imagine that he's gonna be a little more tired maybe he's taken hits a little bit more like they need that help in terms of additions do you think the top priority is finding at least Patterson and winger this offseason I think so I feel like you're going to figure out your back end I feel like that's gonna be pretty easy for them you know it's something where I feel like it's a bit more black and white but finding the forward I feel like it's gonna be tough as they've talked about you know as they say they talk it and and Alvin they've you know they've said it and in tonder percent true like years you know few years ago like it was hard to get free agents to sign here it's a lot of travel it's a you know it is a tougher media market there's a lot of pressure and it was a bit tougher but now with what they've been able to turn this organization into in the last little couple years here and then especially since talk has come in and you can tell how much the guys love to play forum like that's what drives players to your team now you know like everyone always thinks well if we have the right money we'll be able to get the player well maybe that player his family is from Boston and he doesn't offer from Jersey he can be that much closer to his family right like you don't really think about those things but they play in but as you start building this culture that the Canucks have started to do here like you're pulling players in like they've done a great job and I'm excited to see what they come up with this summer it was it was super interesting yesterday hearing from Patterson you know he was he was asked about an injury and he revealed he was going through a knee issue from much of the season going back all the way to to January when the coach was asked about it and whether or not they should have shut Patterson down you know he revealed it was tendonitis and it never got to a point where they and the doctors felt Patterson needed to do be shut down it to some extent and this is my own personal opinion it felt like you know yeah we know you're hurt but you know there's still you can still give us more and you can still give more that's the way I felt the answer came from from coach and maybe even management to a certain extent you know how hard is it as a player to play through injury when you're not feeling your best and how much of this is a learning experience for Patterson to be like all right I'm not feeling my best but I'm the top guy on this team I still got to find a way if we're gonna have success in the playoffs yeah and I think that's fair assessment it's you know I I'm not I wasn't the type of skill player that Patterson is so you know everyone handles playing with injuries differently right like I was able to dumb like game down and just be a good peak here and just try and help out physically in doing things like that like I wasn't counted on the same way that Patterson is like yes he could try and just do those things and he was trying to but way more is expected at all times you know as far as going you know if he didn't have his new deal kicking in he wouldn't have said what his injury was right like none of the other guys did because they don't really want to be talking about that is they're trying to find their paychecks right but for him he has that so he's able to say it I think for him the way I took it was he was almost more saying like it was there and I'm still not happy with what I did like I understand it's not good enough like he needs to just get away from the situation for a few weeks here and just have a full reset and come back like I'm not worried about him long term I think he learned a lot this year I think even just going through this experience and having you guys talking about him mentioning an injury and then the coach and GM kind of tiptoeing a line of going the other way on it is a learning experience like I need to just play I need to figure it out and make my contribution well and I think that was interesting because Patterson was honest he spoke about the ailment he happened you heard Hughes you heard Ian Cole and Philip Rolnick three guys that we know were dealing with some level of injury and they all kind of said no we're fine enough to play or either hurt or said hey wasn't anything that that prevented me from performing at a higher level is it easy not easier but it takes a level of confidence doesn't it and do an self-assuredness to not reveal what was going on or how do you go about seeing seeing the difference and how Patterson was honest and those other guys decided not to mention their ailments yeah I mean and each guy is different to right Lake Cole is a very confident person and Patterson not saying he's not confident but at the same time he's a quieter softer spoken person when dealing with anyone I would say that with those guys and not talking about it is you know I kind of have made a joke about it but you know some of those guys do have you know they're looking for new deals and it's not something you really want to be talking about in front of the media you deal with it buying closed doors and and try and move on but the other side of it is it is a bit of a pride thing like you're sitting there and you're a couple days fresh of being punted from the playoffs and someone asks you about being injured and in your head you're like yeah I was but that doesn't matter like I was one went away from a conference final I don't really care what I was playing through I was playing right like it's it's a different it's a bit of a different build of a person yeah landing for our joining us here on on Canucks Central so the Canucks announced a new head coach for the Abbotsford Canucks here today I mean the hockey world is small how much do you know Manny Malhotra I know I'm quite quite well we used to train a little bit together you know when he was obviously towards the end of his career and I was you know just starting out mine and skating together you know I didn't get to catch you guys having them on here but I imagine he was very focused already of what the job is ahead of him he's probably very excited you know he's someone that is so driven and goal oriented like listening to Alvine talking about what they want their players to be and talk talking about practice habits like Manny is going to do that to a T right like you is someone that loved the game of hockey and respected it like you know I was a young kid with a ton of energy and he was getting me and you know Craig Cunningham who's a now a scout for Vegas out to UBC at seven in the morning and we would do skills skates in the summer and they felt like a complete bag succeed because he's just a workhorse and then we'd finish and he'd pull you down to one end we're like hey 10 face-offs down and back twice 10 face-offs again and you know I'm sitting there I'm like what are we doing this for I mean like you got to be able to win a face-off at the end of the game if you've ice the puck you're gonna be dead tired you have to win that draw like that's who Manny is to a T yeah I want my prospects around like I would love to play for him well and the thing is like how hard he works to write and he's a guy who's been through it on we were talking to him about how he was a guy was a seventh overall take at the reinvent his game and for a player who had high pedigree having to reinvent himself I mean that probably is able he can probably teach a few lessons doing that hundred percent and you know he's someone that you know it's it's interesting watching St. Louis and Montreal and you know have success and the guys seem to really like him as a coach because you don't see that many like super skilled players as coaches or really successful as them you know Marty had a had a ton of work ethic but like a guy like Manny and you know Burro Bay just gets hired in Toronto like those guys have instant respect from the players because they've worked they've been through everything in the game and not only that they've had to work for every little bit that they got and like how do you not respect that like if I'm sitting on the bench and Manny's telling me you have more I want to see it how can I not trust him in that like that's what I had he didn't play but he had the same sort of mentality that the mall ultra has it's Jeff last Joel is now an assistant in Tampa like he never asked you to do a thing that he wouldn't do himself or didn't think that he that you could do it like that's gonna be Manny he's gonna push all those players but he's gonna have the belief with them as well well Manny replaces this Jeremy Colton who was the atmospheric head coach and the main reason why he didn't come back is pursuing NHL opportunities he was a former head coach of the Chicago Black Hawks as well and you have a connection with him as well playing under him for added for the men's Canadian Olympic team when you played at the Olympics what was it like playing for Colton and and what do you think of his future if he gets back to NHL again yes like it was it was a bit of a weird situation you know Clow Julian had been named the head coach for the Olympic team and then had an injury you know tobogganing in in Davos before we left so Colton took over and right away you could see like he is a student of the game and he thinks the game really well and the one thing that I definitely saw is like he loves skill like he wants his system to be of hard work but skill lives within so lives inside of it and you know having more conversations I only you know I only got to play the one game so I was skating a lot with him and I'm getting to chat a lot like he thinks the game highly and you can see it with what he's done in Avits for the last two years like he's a very good developer of younger players it'll be interesting to see what his next opportunity is when he gets back with you know NHL players if that's where he ends up and how he deals with that but you know he's someone that can definitely help develop younger players Landon it's been a pleasure having you on today and through the course or to the playoffs I really appreciate it thanks for this yeah thanks guys there he is Landon Ferraro this message in boxing why not he's terrific man it was such a pleasure getting a chance to work with and watch a game with him it's always fun when you get to watch games with with with people that know the game really well right there's things he kind of saw as a game went on and everything and sometimes it's really funny because sometimes you feel like you have a pretty good grasp of the game and then you sit next people that pick up stuff you're like what like what wait wait you walk me through what you just saw there and and those are some of the things that happen when we were watching a game with Landon and that story about dad Suks somebody texted and said Landon is awesome great guests with great insight that dad Suks story fantastic yeah that was a great story about dad's two playing keep away yeah it was it was pretty great and can can only match like fresh-faced young kid coming up just drafted going to your first train again this should be fun oh dad Duke oh well Nick Lindstrom oh hi hi guys hello but it's a pretty incredible story there from from Landon Ferraro before we get the mail back can we get in a quick goal horn here on connoisseurial yes the game two of the Eastern Conference final is under way Vincent Trocek is scored here in the first few minutes as the Rangers try to tie things up at one apiece in the series Vincent Trocek at 4 12 of the first from Adam Fox and our Temmie Panerin the goal horn is brought to you by Rewind Bierco find their big west coast outside the A at a liquor store near you and celebrate big plays in a big way and the best part about this goal the Panthers just come like immediately mock it up right after they're just finding any guy in a blue shirt and then taking them out to the back and giving them a one square in the gap giving them a beat down and so somehow the Rangers score a goal they come out of it with a power play advantage here to start after they score the opening goal I think this is good for the Rangers get into that mix get into the fight with the Panthers yeah try and survive it they have as I just tweeted they've got a master's degree in bleep hosiery that's that's the Florida Panthers I love bleep hos great word it's a fantastic word I might use it more often actually we should really although we have a text should always get smatted us when we make any sort of soccer references so gotta be careful reach yeah always got to be careful when you use a word like bleep hosiery all right it's a mailbag Friday it's coming up next year on
