Archive.fm

Win Daily Sports

RBC Canadian Open 2024 PGA Picks, Props, and First Round Leaders | PGA DraftCast

David (@DeepDiveGolf) hit 75/1 winner Nacho Elvira on the DP World Tour last week and now it's time for more Winners. Join Spence (@TeeOffSports), Joel (@draftmastersflex), and David (@deepdivegolf) as they deep-dive into the RBC Canadian Open!

Duration:
1h 17m
Broadcast on:
29 May 2024
Audio Format:
mp3

The crew is back this week as they deliver their favorite DFS picks, classic banter, and their famous Win Daily RBC Canadian Open First Round Leader picks!

The PGA Draft Cast is the only show on YouTube where YOU the audience draft a six-golfer PGA DFS line-up alongside the experts!

The format is a standard snake-style draft. Audience members nominate their favorite plays in the chat and the first golfer to be named a second time is the audience's pick.

Learn more about DeepDiveGolf here, including an EXCLUSIVE PROMO: This deal is for a LIMITED TIME ONLY so lock in TODAY! https://windailysports.com/deep-dive-golf/ref/47/

Remember that Win Daily Premium membership grants you access to golf but also ALL our sports coverage! From the NFL, NHL, MLB, NBA, Soccer, and more, we have experts in nearly every field you can imagine. Get full access to our proven winning golf betting tips and golf DFS plays. You can speak directly with the guys, receive expert 1-on-1 coaching for DFS plus betting advice, access our projections, lineup optimizer, premium articles, tools, & expert chat.

Follow Sia (@SiaNejad), David (@deepdivegolf), Joel (@DraftMasterFlex) and Spencer (@TeeOffSports) on Twitter. Find out DeepDiveGolf's P/L for 2022, 2023, and 2024 here: https://windailysports.com/golf/deepdivegolf-2024-pl-tracker/ref/47/

This is the story of the one. As a maintenance engineer, he hears things differently. To the untrained ear, everything on his shop floor might sound fine, but he can hear gears grinding, or a belt slipping. So he steps in to fix the problem at hand before it gets out of hand. And he knows Granger's got the right product he needs to get the job done, which is music to his ears. Call clickgranger.com or just stop by. Granger, for the ones who get it done. [BLANK_AUDIO] >> PGA Nation, we are back. And you know what, you know what we're doing tonight, we're heading to Canada. And since we're heading to Canada, we've decided things have to be done differently tonight, right? There's no opening, there's no intro, because that's not the Canadian. What, when you go to the Canadian way, we get right into things, okay? Forget the intro, we haven't taught him what to talk about. And so that's what we are doing tonight. I'm excited to break it down with you coming off. What was a pretty good week for the squad Spencer? Congratulations on the win, great draft last week, how you doing tonight? >> I'm doing well Joel, I've given myself the number one pick. And as I've talked about many times on this show over the past month or two, that seems to be my Kryptonite spot. So we'll see what ends up happening in this draft. I do have some takeaways of this tournament and those are answers that we can discuss once we get into the actual picks and plays, but good to be here with everybody tonight. >> Well, will your takeaways be highlighted in the course breakdown or in draft or maybe both? >> I mean, I think they kind of coincide with one another a little bit. There's an answer with a couple players that we can have a discussion about once we get into the actual picks, but it's a unique course because we don't get it every single year. There's a lack of data and then a restoration that occurred. So when you get two of those things merging into one answer, typically a little bit more challenging from a model building perspective. You call it challenging, I call it fun. Same thing, I'm looking forward to learning from you. David, come and fresh off of 75 to one. Hey, how are you doing tonight? >> I'm good, mate, I'm good. My profuse apologies to both of you because that was completely my fault that we completely skipped the beautiful intro that we have done up for this show. If you haven't watched the show before, go and watch the other episode to see what the countdown usually looks like, some nice theme music going on. It kind of gets you into the mood for the draft cast and I was kind of, I was the one who was a little late. I know Joel often gets the blame for that, but this was not me this time because I had to shift rooms where I usually record this today. So was running a little bit late and we were kind of chatting and then I just went like, okay, let's go and then just like click live without clicking the video intro first. So they made for some fun content though, it was really fun to watch Joel kind of midway through sip of water, just go like, oh, okay, we're here, we're live. So yeah, overall I'm good, mate, I'm good. It was pretty heartbreaking last week to read the news back, race and marry. And I think we need to acknowledge that because anytime someone who's 30 years old loses his life like that, it is a tragedy and it's incredibly sad and it was just a reminder for me. I mean, I put a post out on Twitter about my own experience, but not just in golf, but also in battling alcoholism. And the reason I shared that is I do feel that there's still a lot of misunderstanding about what this disease is and the way that it does affect people's lives and tragically results in lots of life that very young people have lost many friends to alcoholism in a variety of ways, very few of which have actually been direct alcohol poisoning for the most part, it has been sadly suicide is gross and lost his life last week and it was incredibly sad to see that news. So, you know, I just want to reiterate to everyone watching this week that, you know, I care about every single one of you, you know, we all need to be kinder to each other. We never know what the other person that we're speaking with is going through. You know, let's reach out to each other, especially as men, we're really bad at doing that, you know, so let's just reach out to each other, talk to each other, get real about how we are, what we're doing, you know, and let's look out for one another little bit more and, you know, if we all do that, I think the world can be a better place and, you know, outside of that tragedy and news, it was a good week on the golf run. We had Noutro Vera on the DP World Tour, had a 75-to-1 winner, so it was very, very nice to wrap out the week in the nice way, getting the winner over on the DP World Tour. And it's been a pretty tricky year for golf punters, let's be honest, because Scottish yearful is like winning everything at like $2. And then on the other end of this picture, you've got people like Chris Kerr just winning at like $300, the one, and there's kind of been no in between. So, it was nice to find a little bit of value last week and kick off the rest of the year and hopefully it kicks off in the year and we have another successful week at the Canadian Open. Well, I appreciate that message, David. You know, we like to have fun on this show, we joke around a lot. It's golf, it's a sport, it's mostly fun in games, but it's not always. And some people have real life problems and real life issues. And last week was incredibly sad. And I'm glad, David, you got your message out on someone who can relate at some level. And I think your message is powerful and a meaningful one in that, you know, some people aren't the best with communicating or saying what their needs are. But even if you feel like you're there for someone showing it and actually saying it can go further than you might even realize. And so being there for everyone, being kind to people and helping and showing support certainly can't hurt right at the end of the day, right? And, you know, I think that that's a very powerful message and it certainly was heard this week. But we do have a golf tournament this week that we will get to. So Priorist, Grayson and his family, credit was sad. He will be missed by the golf community. That is for sure. But this week we will move on to the Canadian Open. If you guys recall last year, it was won by Nick Taylor, sinking and absolutely absurd 100 foot putt. Off the top of my head, when I think of absurd putts, and I'm being honest, there's two that stick out in my mind. There's last year's Canadian Open where Nick Taylor made this ridiculous putt to win the tournament. And there's, I'm assuming most people know what I'm saying because if you're watching our show, you scroll Instagram and Twitter and you've probably seen the clip of old man Jack Nicholas at an event getting called out by I think it was with Gary Player on how he can't make a putt and he goes out and he, from the middle of the ferry, sinks this like 150 foot putt and it was like what, it was like that level of absurd last year. That was six out of my mind. Now, of course, this is going to be a different course, so as Spencer said, some different things to look at. But if you can get any, if we can capture any of the magic from last year and having a Canadian sink, a ridiculous putt to win the tournament and have that celebration, then you remember Adam Hadlam got tackled on the green because I thought he was a fan. It was just straight chaos. We're looking to recreate some of that chaos this year. Live players might be gone, but there is still plenty of fun to be had on the golf course. So Spencer, as you, as you referenced in the beginning of the show, your work is certainly cut out for you on this course breakdown in that. There's only a couple of times I've even played on this course and it was before they've done the course renovation. So essentially it feels as though it's basically a brand new course that we're playing, but Spencer, I want to pass you to give us a break down on what you're looking for this week. So Hamilton Golf and Country Club has undergone three major transformations over the last 100 years. You look at renowned English architect Harry Colt. He designed 18 of the current 27 holes in the property that you have in 1914. We saw Robbie Robinson add his flair in 1974. He included those extra nine holes that obviously aren't going to be in play this week when we only have 18 of the 27 with the way that this is built. But this property underwent that third alteration that we're talking about in 2019 when Martin Ebert performed a restoration that cost 11 and a half million dollars and the purpose of the restoration was trying to restore it closer to what Colt had envisioned in 1914. This is back-to-back weeks of the PGA tour going to a course that had taken on this exact moniker of trying to go backwards in time, build it for modern technology, but have the same restorations come into play to kind of try to get you into that mindset there. So we have received this venue, as you said Joel, very infrequently on the PGA tour. The last iteration is going to be in 2019. During that example of the course, we got this extremely tight strategic test off the tee that diminished accuracy by over 7% versus a standard stop. The one minor change that will get this goal around will be the increase from 6,832 yards to a little above 7,000 yards. I don't necessarily want everybody to hear this short yardage and think that this is going to be such an easy birdie fest. It's interesting. I've seen the winning score. The projection is at 18 to 19 under par depending on what shop you're looking at. McElroy's victory was a runaway five years ago. He took a bomb in gouge mentality. He was long off the tee. He was accurate off the tee. He made a million putts. It's not necessarily the layout that everybody's going to take, but with the softer conditions, and I'll kick it over to David at the end of this course breakdown. I'll let him talk about the weather, how this course is going to be playing softer. When Ebert rebuilt this course, one of the things he did is he took all 27 greens and he included your classic bent grass and poa split. He also added new teas and modernized bunkers throughout the property that I believe is going to keep this facility very similar to what we saw five years ago, but doing it in a fashion that's probably better for today's game regarding positioning. All of those answers are complicated, you guys, because you don't want to start extrapolating out projections on information that you don't necessarily know the long term returns for. So, I played this much closer to expectation of the long term data where I could find things and this is something I talk about quite frequently at venues where we don't have a lot of information. How does somebody play on a short course? How does somebody play at a par 70? Look at these poa bent split on the greens. What kind of production did I get there? I didn't necessarily find that many differences, maybe compared to some people and I know one of the interesting answers that I've seen said a million times just over and over again is that when you get these tournaments with less information, there's an ability to show off your nature of building a model or talking about numbers. I don't believe that to be true. I would rather have the statistical data and to be able to build out in that direction. As I said, I'll let David talk about the weather right now. This course is very soft and I think that's one of the reasons why this winning score is starting to move up the board into that 19, maybe we even get to 20 of what it closes at. But David, what do you see about the weather right now and how it's going to affect the course? Yeah. Look, I mean, fantastic as it was from Spins for a special week like this, we have only had four iterations of this tournament at this golf course in the last 20 years because the Canadian Open and I think rightly so for a national Open, like the US Open, needs to move to different courses each week. So we did a superb job there. I was really struggling this week with this golf course, if I'm honest, because I've seen arguments in both directions, one being that if you're a long driver, a lot of the freeway bunkers can be avoided if you can carry sort of 300, 305 yards consistently with your driver. And with only two par fives and a large number of parfours as a result of that, there may be something to be said for those longer drivers, especially given some of the length of the par threes as well, like you are going to team table online and to a number of the par threes and those who are a bit of a driving distance are generally going to have a shorter club in their hand on those long par threes. And then I was in a complete opposite argument of like it should be fairway finders and you need to find the short grass. And I think difficulty for me as well is that a lot of the superintendent notes aren't filled out as comprehensive lead this week as they have been at others. Like we have no idea what length the rough is, like, is it four and a half inch Kentucky bluegrass or is it two inch Kentucky bluegrass, like who knows, like all we know is the grass type. So that is a struggle. I do take Spencer's point, I think it is going to be soft, there's been a ton of rain today, particularly tomorrow is going to be overcast all day and really cold as well. So I think the group that's going to benefit the most from that is going to be Thursday morning. It doesn't look to be a lot of wind in the forecast as it currently stands, but in saying that Saturday the winds might pick up a little bit as well. So as always, look, jump into the description here, we've got discount promo codes on memberships in the moment and we'll provide all of our latest weather updates right up until tournament start because they can make a huge difference when you're building your DFS lineups and especially when making the cut is the priority for your six or sixes. Well, there you have it, got a lot of work cut out for us this week on trying to understand the course. I think David and Spencer both made some really good points. The one I especially align on is, you know, you want in my opinion, you want to have that extra data preferred even if you are, you know, skilled at this for the reason that that'll just be make it more precise on what golfers should be a good fit, right? Yes, you might be able to get a few details, maybe a small H here or there by just, you know, having the data and running the models over some of the general folks. But I think the precision over our course and a field of 150 golfers and understanding the data is the preferred method, but that won't stop us tonight. We are still heading right in to the draft. And for those of you that are new, if you aren't logged in on YouTube, go ahead and log in on YouTube. You can participate in the draft through the chat. The audience will be directing their own team. You're in the fourth slot tonight. So it will be a stick style draft, Spencer first, David, second, me third audience. You'll have two in a row, just like your standard fantasy football draft. The one caveat is you do need to stay within your drafting salary. So you can't just draft all the best players, but you need to ensure that you can afford each golfer that you select. For the audience, the way you lock in your pick is a player is nominated by anyone. This first time that that player is mentioned a second time in the chat during your pick, it is then your final pick. We will rely on team captain tonight, Zach Jeffers, who typically lets us know what the lock button, which is the pick that is in to finalize your pick. Without further ado, Spencer, the first overall pick, you were on the clock. This is not the route I was planning to take when I started. And maybe this is where the detriment of putting myself in the number one spot ends up unraveling here. Here's my assessment and I understand ownership and there are a couple golfers near the top that are going to be very highly owned, but make an argument that all those names that have a bunch of ownership to them, it's rightfully so. There are weeks where I disagree with the public sentiment. This is not necessarily one of those and we look at Rory McElroy here at 12,100. I know there's going to be a lot of ownership. I assume we're going to be around 40% when it all closes. I am at 37% right now. The high end I've seen above 40 below end. I've seen it about 35. My model has taken an aggregated total there to put it at 37%. I just thought that at 12,100 when we got pricing going down to the $5,000 range this week, that Rory was made way too cheap. We can make the argument that this is not the same scenario of Scotty Scheffler because Rory has more of a boomer bus potential. We know with Scotty, he's essentially a locked in top 10, top five if you really want to look at what he's been doing recently. Rory does have the propensity to go a little bit wayward at times, but when you look at Rory and his ideal skill set and the ideal courses where he uses that skill set, it's always the soft venues, tree line courses, the ability to use a driver off the T, which I wouldn't have normally said this is the type of venue for that, but with this being soft and what he was able to do to this course, as David talked about, of just hitting it past a lot of the danger here. I think this is a great course fit for him. I think he's too cheap. Number one in my model in weighted strokes gain total, number one in recent strokes gain total when you gear at the Hamilton, he's number one in my model in strokes gain total on par 70s, number one for weighted scoring and then the one category that I really liked is the heightened proximity, which takes some of these expected proximity ranges and buckets here, which there's going to need to be more of a hand calculation that's done because there has been the renovation. So you add that to the short game, he's number one in that area too. So it was a really strong profile from Rory, who's trending this week for this tournament and we know about his history at all RBC Canadian Opens, including this tournament which he took down in 2019. So I'm going to go with the popular route. I'll figure out how to deviate from the popularity there, but Rory McElroy, 12,100. You know, I like the pick. One thing I'm touching on, I don't need to talk too long about why Rory is a good pick minister. Obviously, he's probably, he's definitely is the best profile golfer in the draft. But one of the topics we touched on before we touched, we launched the show, which I'll touch on again now, is how different playing this year is with how watered down the field are with, with live gone. And what that's really done at the end is magnified even more the top players, because you take a guy like Murray McElroy in a field that included, you know, the likes of your, you know, Joaquin Neemans or Mito Pereras and John Rom, all those guys have gone, again, not these tournaments and everybody played, but there would typically be five to 10 more B plus the A minus players in the field that we're no longer getting. It makes someone look like Rory, look even better, right? He was like, hey, there's only a few guys that it can even compete in this tier. And now Rory is one of them and he layered that on with the five K range enabled, making that possible. It kind of makes it feel like if you can, you've got to go there. And so that's, I think the biggest difference we're seeing this season from the past and directing season to, I mean, they're pricing it differently, where we saw, you know, Sheffler pricing the 13 K range, you know, maybe, maybe you would get Rom or Sheffler, 12 K last year in their peak. But for the most part, this was territory that we haven't seen a lot of, that now they're going back to, and obviously, Rory's playing better right now, but I think it's more because of what you're comparing him to than it is that he's won, you know, the last five tournaments and nourishes unstoppable. So I like to bet Royal be my pool, but I think you've got to adjust how you play with, you know, the new fields that were being thrown at us this season. David, you're on the clock with the second paper. Love your take on Rory first. Yeah, look, I mean, it's feet to see that Rory is just deservedly at the top and should really be more expensive. I mean, if you look at the tournaments where he's won this year, he won the Dubai Desert Classic, which he's won multiple times. He won the Wales Tiger Championship, which he's won multiple times. He won the Zurich Classic as well, along with Shane Lowry, so, I mean, you know, that means kind of weird. But the other two of you have been, he's won. He's in tournaments that he's got a good history at and kind of seems that same recipe here. He's turning up at the obviously Canadian Open, again, in the Vt's won multiple times, but also at the golf course that he's seen once in one at. So, yeah, I think he can very justifiably say that he's too cheap. He should be more. My only concern comes, as you said, with the renovations is something where that changes some of the recipe that he had here last year. But look, it's right in the Coro, whatever, stick with the top of your line, I'm taken with the first pick, and I'm not going to argue too hard with you. So as a result of that, I would have very happily taken Rory with the first pick if I had had it. But I'll take the other name that I like, at the top, which is Seth Tagala. Look, I just think that Tagala is a much better golfer than he's getting credit for. We all knew the outside he was getting in 2023. We saw his ability to actually spike. We also saw his ability to make realness cuts. And the thing that's impressed me in 234 with Tagala is his ability to add consistency to his game. And we see that in his results and the nature of the fact that if we're not that sure what this golf course is going to play like well, he was trialled at the PGA Championship at a long golf course. But then he was second at the obviously heritage at a shorter golf course, which was a lot more fiddly. Similarly, he was ninth at the players championship, but a golf course where if you're wayward off the tee, you can find water and trouble pretty easily. And then before that, it was six at Bay Hill, one of the strongest driving golf courses on the tour. And what that speaks to me is that one he's showing up in the best field and this is not that. We know this is a weak field. The fact that his game is at such a level now that's proving pretty transitive. He can perform it all these different golf courses. And at a golf course where we're not that sure how it's necessarily going to play, I think that's a solid way to start a build this week. I love the Tagala this week as well. I think you set a spot on. And even at the 10-5 price and he's priced up, I still don't think the golf world has fully come around to Tagala being basically an off-start level golfer, right? He's in that upper tier now. He's shown it. He's in my opinion, the most likely to top 10 of anyone other than Rory in this tournament. And so I think as the season goes on, he'll start sticking up in this top tier. But for sure, our show, we've been early on to him. We usually draft him in every show that we're on. I'm glad the pricing is starting to catch up, but Tagala will definitely be someone in my player pool. All right. With the top two players off the board, I'm going to shift here and I'm going to look at a value pick. I'm going to head down a little bit to a guy who we haven't played much of this year. But if you follow along with the draft cast in history, you know, this is a golf room historically. We've been one of my favorite players. He's been out with injury for a long time and I think he is back and I'm ready to go back and play Daniel Berger. Daniel Berger has, you know, shifted. We've seen some better ones. He was 45th at the trial shop last week. Didn't play very well around the green, which is the main event, but he's been outstanding off the tee is approach numbers have been very strong. I think he can show up this week and make a few putts. I think you're going to see a very good result and Daniel Berger at only 7,700. I think, you know, outside of maybe the top five or six guys is as good as anyone in this field. It's a great value and what also won't be huge ownership. So I really do like Daniel Berger, a good amount and eventually that price and ownership is going to have to get adjusted. The results will start coming. We know he's a better talent as we've seen in the last, you know, three or four years and you know, he's still recovering from that injury, but it looks like he's starting to get there. So audience, it looks like your first pick is in. Great job. We'll wait for one more, but while we wait for that second pick to come in, I'd love to get feedback from you, Spence, will you be playing Daniel Berger this week? This is taking long term data into the mix here and, you know, we'll see how back Daniel Berger can get, I guess, no puns intended there with that, but he's number one in my model in strokes gain total on short courses, number 13 on strokes gain total on par 70s. This has typically been the recipe for success for him when you give him the shorter venues where he's able to use that skill set to the mix. My model starting to come around on him much more than it did with some of the early season data that he put together after the very first tournament. He kind of went from a name where I didn't have a lot of information on him past the data that I had before he came back and then all of a sudden he went in the wrong direction with the data and how we're starting to see it come back in the right direction. So I think he's an intriguing play for a golfer that we're looking at. I don't know what you see right now, Joel, but I mean, I have this fringe like range of like 7%, like your borderline one way or another, which definitely does seem a little bit too low-owned for him. Yeah, right now mine is saying 10%, which, you know, I'm even fine with 10% at this number. David, how about yourself? Will you be playing Daniel Berger this week? Yeah, I mean, look, I have Berger at around 8%. I think that's a result of these, a couple of other names, right next to him, where they're going to attract a lot of the ownership and probably take it away from him. And then I think Berger's like a completely fine play in a large KPP. We know he's got the upside, he's making consistent cuts now, which is really promising to see. I think a lot of people expect golfers come back from injury and immediately just be able to like turn up and just perform at the same level. And that's not the reality. I mean, it does, you do need to get some reps in, which he's now done, but we know that, you know, he was a top 10 player in the world when he was at his best. And if you're going to be early on in my giant pig, this is a bad spot to take that route whatsoever, especially in the ownership so I like that play. Ooh, I love it. Now the audience, off to a good start, both picked in quickly. So I like to applaud the audience for starting off hot, getting the draft moving. And two picks are going to be Alex Norin and Tommy Fleetwood, both golfers that have been on the rise from playing good golf, heading in the right direction. I think it's a really good start to the draft for the audience. My only slight negative feedback on the two picks is I feel like they're, you're using a lot of salary for those two guys to start this draft, but I think you'll be different. I think most people will start with a Warrior or Sagala. So being Norin and Fleetwood is your top two should be unique and I like the player. So endorsed by me would love your feedback, Speds. Will you be on Norin or Fleetwood this week? I guess the thing I would say, Joel, and maybe I end up being wrong here, a lot of people are going to start with Rory. We know that answer. I do think Norin and Fleetwood will be a very popular start for lineups. I said this with Byron when we did the roto baller show yesterday, you look at Norin and Fleetwood, like Norin is the one B version, essentially, of what my model has for Fleetwood. These are projected and I very loosely use the term projected here because they have not one on the PGA tour, but they are projected top five win equity candidates inside of my model that are going to carry some ownership, but have the skill set here where there are very few courses that I could think that are better for these two to actually get across the finish line than what we're going to perception wise get at Hamilton from everything that I'm able to at least find from within the data and all the information that I know about the course. So they're going to be popular. I tend to think both of them are good chocks and aerials. I was hoping Fleetwood was going to be lower on than this. When I wrote my article yesterday, my assumption was going to be Rory's 40% plus owned. The goal is going to be 25% plus owned and I was hoping we were going to get Fleetwood in this position where he was 13, 14%. Fleetwood and the gala are very close to one another. I think that they are a virtual coin flip from one another in value. I bet the gala at 22 to one when he opened. I didn't bet Tommy Fleetwood because he was 18. That was the only difference that I had in those two, but in all reality here, I like every pick that's been made and there are some popular choices on the board, but we look at the very top of the board, I would say Rory, the gala, Fleetwood, Nora, and we could make a couple arguments about who else should be in there. Those are definitely four of your top six or seven win equity candidates this week. Oh, there you have it. All right. For my second pick here, I'm going to preface this by saying every year during this tournament, I feel like I need to take Canadians, like they're representing the country they're going to blab and they typically don't do well. They typically, last year, Nick Keller won, but typically it's not like they usually come out and do well, but I still can't control myself. I'm looking for Canadians playing well to show up at their tournament and I'm doing that right now. I'm going to take Adam Spencer, who we've seen his ball striking has really been good. I think him coming home, it could be a show up moment for him to go through. We've seen him make a ton of cuts this year, he doesn't get you too many of those top 20 finishes, but he's making cuts. I think this is the week he makes a few bucks because that's a total in the back. Everything else is there. He needs to make a few pots. I think he can do that in the home country and get a stellar result at 7300, not a ton of risk. I think he's a pretty safe play as well. I love the way Adam Fitts is playing. I thought he could have been priced up a bit higher, upper 7K range, so I'm happy with that pricing. I'll ask you first, but will you be on Adam Spencer and it all this week? I'll ask both of you guys the question first before I get to this. I did not place this head-to-head bet and I've asked every single person I've been on a show with. My model loved this. I had trepidation for a couple reasons and maybe it's because of Spencer's boomer bust nature in my model a little bit. I worry about the putter, I worry about some of these metrics the way that they're forming here. Do either of you guys have thoughts on Spencer over Kevin Yu this week? Is it even? It is minus 115. I'll let you go first, David. I like it from the perspective of I don't think you're going to get a lot of long irons this week other than the Par-3s, like a few of the Par-3s are over 200 yards, but outside of that it seems to be a place where someone like Kevin Yu who has driving distance isn't going to need to reach for his 150 to 200 yards shot and that's typically the area where he tends to do the best. I'd say off those two golfers, Kevin Yu's the most volatile. He could come out and finish to have a great week where he could easily miss the car whereas it's been so long, a really good run of made cuts and he isn't getting the pay dude at the end of the week because of the putter, but the approach metrics are really there, which is a really consistent way to build results. Very quickly, Joel, before you answer, it's funny. I've had three people answer that question so far and that is the exact answer I've gotten all three times where if you're looking for upside Kevin Yu, and that's the right answer. That's one of the reasons why I didn't play it because Kevin Yu has the spike nature in his game. You look at the ball striking metrics, they are brilliant. He jumps into the top five of a lot of those areas of my model. The short game pushes him in the wrong direction. You get a very similar profile here with Adam Spenson, but you get it with less upside and a little bit more safety and safety markets and head to head matchups are usually what I'm looking for, but there's just something about this play that continues to make me not go down this route. I do think there's value. This would be more than a 3% edge in my model ball. Very quickly, let you answer it Joel, before we move on. Well, what I was going to say is looking at both, they're both very similar profile offers. They're in the same category, any way you look at it. If I was looking at it, it's probably a no bet for me because I don't see a big edge either way. But in a head to head, I think I agree with David's answer as well, is in a GPP, Yu is probably the play because he might have the upside in the boom. In a head to head, I probably know Spenson. I think Spenson is probably the safer option of the two that I would make the head to head match up that. So, I do slightly prefer Spenson. I think he's a little safer, a little bit more consistent, but they're very similar profile offers, ball striker suit, you know, we need some help with the short game. But the edge this week is it's in Canada, and Adam Spenson's Canadian, so that's why I took him, that has no logic to it. I just, I always think, and work last year, so we're going back to it this year, Canadians are going to step up and win in their home country. That's my play. David, who are you taking with your second pick? Well, funnily enough, I'm going to take a Canadian, and I was quite afraid actually that you were going to take the Canadian that I was going to take when you mentioned that route. You know, it's interesting when history gets broken like it did with Nick Taylor, which by the way, we tipped up last week. The last year at arm 66 to when we got that one correct. So, not only was the crowd going nuts when that part drained, but we were too, having sweated a very, very sweaty playoff against Tommy Fleetwood there. I think Oakdale was interesting in that it was very easy to determine what type of golf it was going to set. It was going to be driving actually a lot of wedges, so we're not that sure this week. But if we are going down that route of driving distance, you know, maybe Nick Taylor now broke that barrier, and we actually see Canadians now going like okay, I want to turn up the other factor is that the presence cup is in Montreal this year. We have seen consistently Canadians turn up and perform really well at tournaments because they are all desperate to make that present cup team and represent the international side in Canada on home soil. So on that basis, very chalky, but I am going to take Taylor Penrith. Other than last week of the PGA, and his last appearance, sorry, the PGA Championship, which he missed the cup, whatever, you know, it's a top cast field outside that year for consecutive top 11s, including a win as well. I think that if we are looking down that driving distance throughout, he obviously has plenty of that. He is the ability to spike with the putter as well, and if I am going down this route of trying to avoid the trouble of the tee or just out hit the trouble of the tee, I think Taylor Penrith is a really, really good option for someone who is in excellent form outside of in this cut in the major, which I can always easily figure. I like that pick a lot, I think is a really good value, and similarly, there's a few guys in that range pending being one of them that seem to me that not only are they under price, but also not taking too much ownership. Like a lot of times we see guys in this range that are under price end up getting, you know, close to 17, 20 percent owned. I'm only seeing about 11 percent, which at this price frame, I happily play him at 11 percent. So I definitely like that pick, Spence, you got to love your take on Penrith first. My model had him as one of the better values in the $7,000 section, whether you're looking at the price tag or you're comparing it against ownership. Inside of the top 15 for me in all three iterations of how I ran it from overall upside and safety, David talked about the added distance that he brings to the mix, and one of the things, and I talked about this category ever so slightly already, but I ran this heightened proximity plus short game, and what heightened proximity means in this spotter, the more realistic ranges that iron shots are going to come from, and then comparing it to the short game metrics of players that are either going to be able to salvage par from that or make birdie. We know Taylor Penrith's biggest weakness would be the irons in these spots, but when you added the short game to the mix, he was a massive climber for me inside of my model and expectation, and that's one of the reasons why he climbed into the top 10 from an overall rank. So I think the price tag is too cheap. I think it's a nice profile of a golfer who outside of last week is trending in the right direction right now. I love it. Oh, right. You got two here. You started with Rory. How you following that up? I guess I'm going to play a game here of a little trial and error to see what a lineup looks like when I do this. And I've seen the audience joking about taking all the $5,000 and $6,000 golfers, and here's your chance at this moment because I'm going to leave myself in a position that's going to get gross very fast here. There was one golfer and this is definitely a Joel name of over the years of I would be curious. I would think that Joel probably would have taken him if it would have fallen back a couple more picks here. But when we look at this board, you look at the very top and you want to say Rory, the gala, Fleetwood, whatever order, I mean, Rory and those other two, whichever order you want to put those other two in, those are the three favorites. I then think you find this mix here with a lot of options, whether it's Noren or Sam Burns or any of these other options that are very close to one another here. There was one name though, and this was an outright answer because he opened up 50 to one and that number has plummeted down. We're at 35 to one now and I think that's sharp move above anything else there, but this was a golfer for me that should have been priced in that same section with a lot of those players because he has those prerequisites for upside that I'm looking for. I'm going to take Tom Kim. I think this price tag is way too cheap. I know some of the proximity numbers are going to leave a lot to be desired, but when you look specifically for these heightened proximity ranges that I keep talking about, he jumps the fifth overall in this field for me. So a really nice course fit for a golfer who has started to gain off the T again. And this is now where this puts me in the position where I'm going to have no money. I talked about there being a couple names at the top. I really liked Sam Burns is the other one here. The ownership has started to climb much more than I was anticipating when I wrote my article on Monday. I thought he was going to be a sub 10% option at this 15% mark that we have right now. I have that about the break even total. I don't know if necessarily we're in a spot where there's a ton of value based off of that. But one of the upside climbers in my model who has a distance here for this venue and has the putting that you would want to see, and that's kind of the one combination I keep looking for is guys who can hit it long, guys who can make putts. And then if you want to look for whatever this is worth for the proximity ranges here, that is also going to be Sam Burns's weakness. But a very similar answer to Thagala would be, I'm always trying to find those two names when they get an increased projection in proximity for me. Thagala was a big mover. Sam Burns was also a big mover. So that's not going to leave me with much money. I'll have to play around to see how we can round this up. But I do think that with this Tom Kim price I have here because I think he's a thousand dollars too cheap. I kind of think I have three of the top six projected wind equity candidates, and then we'll figure out what we can do from there to close it. When I started thinking about what my comment would be on those two picks, the word I just kept coming to my mind is wind equity. You just took two guys here in this tournament that clearly have went after you did a teaser to proven PGA tour guys who we know can get hot. And I think pricing wise that they're both good values at Sam Burns at 9/4, Tom Kim in the mid-8K ring of the amount of wind equity having this tournament I think are two very solid picks. David, I'd love to get your feedback. Will you be on Tom Kim or Sam Burns this week? I've said before, and I think my answer's still the same, that I'm probably out on Tom Kim just until I see a little bit more like his last four tournaments losing on approach. The part is really concerning for me because it's such a fundamental of this game. Things saying that if you can't get a little bit different by taking in this ownership ends up a little bit lower, then that could be an interesting option. But for me, it just seems to be getting a bit of traction this week, and I can't quite put my figure on why. On the flip side, Sam Burns was who I was going to take. So that's a straight steal from Spencer. I really like his driving distance, the carry distance, as I mentioned at the beginning of the show, if that is going to be the route that we think is going to be the way to outfit a lot of the danger whilst Sam Burns says, 'Tun of that, I've been keeping every gets enough credit if they have a lot on his off the tee.' But he's also an awesome patter, and it was interesting in his last appearance that he lost so many strokes pattering, which is just so atypical for him that I could see some regression happen pretty quickly for one of these ball strokes onto it. So certainly endorse the Sam Burns, but in the way that I'm not going to get him. Boom, another pick stolen, alright David, you've got your third pick here, about 8K per pick left. Who are you looking at here? Yeah, again I'm going to take someone who's going to attract a little bit of ownership, but I do promise I'll get different later in the draft. Part of the reason is I don't think that I'll necessarily get this player back on the right ground. So I'm going to take Davis Thompson here, I just think that he's playing it, an awesome level at the moment. And the fact that you both winced for a retails me, I'd probably stole that from both of you. But second of the battle beach classic, and then 17th of the Charles Schwab, seems to be playing really well. And the approach metrics, the distance these getting off the tee, the fact that he's still accurate off the tee despite their driving distance is really promising for me. And just look, I just think that he's playing in a much better level than his salary here suggests I would have seen him probably in that like 8,300 to 8,500 range, and getting him at 7,800. I feel that I'm saving a little bit here. So nice to get revenge on has been to understand the beans picked with Thompson there. Well, I will confirm he would not have gotten back to you. I would have taken him with one of my biggest players. I like Davis Thompson this week as well. Again, another value, I think there's a lot to like in the 7K range this week. And I think he's another one that I will be on. Spans, can you confirm were you also looking to draft Davis Thompson this week? There are three players in the $7,000 section when I ran my model and I tried to find the top 60 players in the seven categories that I ran. So that's just general safety that you're going to get into a profile there. There were three golfers in the $7,000 range. If you look at David's second pick and David's third pick, those would be two of those options right there. But I think David's team, regardless of having Sam Burns or not having Sam Burns is off to a very strong start. It makes me feel a little bit better knowing that Thompson wouldn't have fallen to me Joel because that was, I was kind of, I mean, I guess I made my own bet. I had the option to take him, but I can promise you, he would have been my next selection. Well, good. I'm glad I can help you make feel better about not getting your guide. David, congratulations, squad's looking good. All right. With my third pick here, I'm doing the thing I promise not to do again and taking another Canadian. I can't help myself. I just can't. It's just something about it. They've already risen above because of the tournament and that's Cory Connors. You know, Cory Connors, again, it's a similar theme for me, you know, obviously it's glaring what he needs to improve on as a short game, but he's one of the best ball strikers in the field. He's red high. Seven strokes at the Wells Fargo, 7.8 on approach at the PGA Championship. His ball striking is elite in this field, especially. I think he's going to be one of the best ball strikers. You know, he's lost strokes around the green and putting, you know, for the last two months. So he's going to have a trip to have a turnaround there. If we can just get him to neutral the short game and, you know, not lose strokes, I think he's going to get you a top 10 if not win the tournament. So maybe Cory Connors will be the one to reverse the Canadian lull and come back and I'm following Nick Taylor's footset this year and have that great Canadian result if they didn't open. But I am taking Cory Connors more because of how well he is striking the ball. I think that will translate on this course. Spence, how about you? Will you be on Connors at all this week? I think Connors is one of the best cash gameplays. I worry about the putter ever so slightly, but it's hard to argue against his profile for this tournament from a safety metric standpoint. And specifically if you remove putting from the mix, he jumps into the top five for safety. So really nice profile here. We know about the ball striking. As you said, Joel, it just comes down to how many putts does he make. There you have it. Our audience, we need two from you. I see. Looks like one is in. We're waiting on one more lock before your turn is over. Let's say I might have given him before we get to the audience picks. David, will you be playing Cory Connors this week? Yeah, I really like Connors this week and I think he's an excellent section. And I've spoken about Connors. I've been drafting a couple of times on the draft pass lately. And one thing that has just not been talked about enough is the amount of driving distance that Cory Connors has added in 2024. Like he is genuinely adding a ton of speed to his swing. And we've always thought of Cory Connors as just like this accuracy based guy. We're only playing at courses where it's going to be like really narrow because he can use his driving agency. Well, that rest is kind of changing to Connors. And the approach game is just like off the charts. I also like the fact that this course has bent grass greens. It's something pretty rare that we see on the PGA tour. It's not often that you have a big grass compared to say Bermuda or Piranha and tend to be the predominant types that you see. Well, Connors obviously has played very well at the Masters across his years. And that's of course on being grass green. So if we're looking in the case where he's basically being field neutral padding for like the last few tournaments, like you lost 0.16 per round at the PGA, 0.47 per round at the Wells Fargo, 0.22 per round at the Heritage. It's getting better. Like he's not losing like five strokes padding. And that's what you need to avoid with Connors because he can outhead his part a lot of the time because his approach play is that good. So I do really really like the play. I would have liked to have gotten at some point in this draft. All right. All right. We have the audience picks in and it looks like it's going to be. How do you pronounce it? Meisner Meisner? I think it's Meisner. Meisner. Meisner's like, listen, he played well, actually. He was someone I was looking at and showdown. I don't know much about him other than he looked last week, but, you know, coming off a big week last week, I don't, I wouldn't be surprised if he did it again. And Van Ruyan as the follow up, you know, I thought I'll be honest with you and saying, I don't love Van Ruyan, he's not a typical my guy. He is playing wetter, better, more recently. I just thought he was a little overpriced. I prefer Van Ruyan as a value play than, you know, one of my core plays in the eight K range. So I will not be on him this week, but I can see him having a good result. So I'm not going to say, you know, you don't play. I'm like, I could see it. Just not going to be my player pool. Would love your feedback, David, when you'd be playing Van Ruyan. Yeah, look, I think the interesting with Van Ruyan is he was 20th here. He played here previously. So he's got that experience, which none of the players do. And the fact that coming into that tournament wasn't necessarily in the best of form. So he was able to kind of show up at the end of being tier where, you know, he wasn't in like red hot form. We'd just come off in this cut. The week prior is always interesting. I think he's actually even elevated this game since then. And the approach metrics are definitely eye-catching. His ball striking is excellent. Meg Maysner is an interesting one for me because actually I was a little bit early on him. I think it was the Texas Open. Maybe that I tipped him where he finished 10th and he was at big triple figure rods that week. So he played very, very well. My concern here comes with rural 17. You don't play the chalk under 7K and Meg Maysner is absolutely going to be the chalk. So that would be my only concern for the audience. I think that is a very, very fair feedback. Sven, how about you? Are you on Maysner or Van Ruyen? First of all, with Van Ruyen, I wish they would have made him cheaper because it's taken away ownership. And I did not plan on playing him this week. I'm more on Joel's line of thinking. There's upside to the profile. If you look at any of the recent metrics and how they trend towards Hamilton, he jumps into the top five of expectation here. On the flip side of that answer, he has struggled historically on some of these shorter par 70 courses. There were a couple hiccups in the model for me that pushed him in the wrong direction. I think he's overpriced at this number, which is why I wish he would have been cheaper and people would have wanted to play him. And then there would have been more of a decision. So I'm not going to tell anybody that he's a bad play for DFS because he does have upside in his profile at sub 10%. As far as Maysner's concerned, when everything opened on Monday and just in the outright market and unfortunately, this moved before I even got my model officially built in prices out, Maysner was the best bet on the board for me and you can credit data golf for that one. They moved that number before anybody had the potential to get to it if you didn't get to it early. And my model was in agreement there. I do tend to agree though with David for such a boom or bust profile that we have with him. This feels like one of those spots where I will rather just have him beat me because I don't really want to play a 12% on goal for where. Yes, the upside is very enticing, but the floor has has some cracks going in it right now. All right, all right. There you have it. For my fourth pick here, this is starting to become a guy who's becoming one of my guys. I think this season, I've been drafting him a while. I'm going to draft him again while he disappointed me more recently. I think he's a better golfer and profile than they are pricing him at and the ownership hasn't followed. So I'm going to go ahead and take another chance on Akshay Batia. Yes, I acknowledge he missed the last two cuts, obviously not what you want to see. But if you actually look at the metric, take a deeper dive, not many guys under 8-2 or 8-3 are going to have the capability of spiking on their ball striking as well as Batia, as well as the upside with his putter. He has all of those that upside that you're looking for in a tournament like this that a lot of these guys down at this rate just don't have. He's going to have to turn around the last two weeks wasn't it for him and that he missed the cut of the Charles Schwab and he missed the cut of the PGA Championship. I think the PGA Championship is more excusable. It was a major. He still gained strokes on approach. He missed too many pots. The Charles Schwab was a bad week. He just didn't have it with lost strokes, pretty much everywhere but the driver, which I think is the eye popping in because the driver with someone say is the biggest worry with him. And the fact that he gained strokes there, I expect him to turn around on the approach played with his irons and on his putter. And if you can finally be consistent with that driver, I think he gets another very good result this week. Let's start with you, Spence. Will you be playing actually at Batia this week? I think he's a good pick. I think if we're talking win equity, which we've talked a lot about, he's one of the steady climbers for me and my sheet. I don't know how he's going to react to this. He was very close to Grace and Murray. I don't know what that exactly means for his outlook for this tournament. He's definitely going to have a heavy heart entering this contest. The results have gone in the wrong direction since his victory, but the profile and the statistics are as high end in my sheet as you can find for the price tag. If you didn't go that route, Joel, he was going to be my pick. So like between you and David, you guys have successfully stolen about every single person that's in that 7,600 to 8,100 price range. Yeah, I think that's interesting. The Grace and Murray thing, that could go either way. I mean, you could be grieving and just not be able to find your game and just kind of be off. Go the other way. You could be extra focused and try and go out there for your friend and have a better result. Not something I'm going to factor into my decision. I'm going to just play him based on the metrics and some of those things he just can't control either way. I mean, obviously, I hope he goes out there and is able to channel his inner best self and play well for him. But that's an interesting context, because I didn't know that they were close, but that is a factor to think about. David, would love your take on Batia and then you got one more. Yeah, I mean, look, I agree with basically everything that's been said. And I think that you can't really tell how someone's going to react to their grieving process. I think that's really, really difficult to get into someone's mind. And at the end of the day, we just can end up guessing and it can go both ways. It could be something where you don't feel like going out and playing or it could be something where you're absolutely galvanised. You want to do your best to absolutely honour the friend who's passed away. So that just becomes something where it's a question where we can't really know the answer. What I do like with Batia is that your pro play is just like off the charts. Like his ball striking is epic. We always want Batia to come out here, but it's especially in a large DPP format. Batia is always Batia in the Gala kind of in the go hand in hand on those sort of golf courses where if you were looking for upside down to a bit of options that you can look at. All right, so as I said, it would have loved to have had Sam boons in this position to kind of round things out and just looking at the average salary remaining. I think I'm going to have to go and take this play first and then I can take who I want to a bit further on because speeds won't be able to afford them. And so I'm actually going to take Ryan Fox and give a little bit of a shot on the key here. Look, if we're thinking that driving distance is going to be effective given the fact that a lot of the scoring here is going to be on longer path floors. The fact that we can out hit a lot of the trouble if we can avoid the fewer bunkers off the tee. It's quite a roaring McElroy's way for success. Foxy looks like he's finally starting to find his feet again. And so he's had two top five finishers and his last five appearances. He had a fourth at the Zurich Classic fourth at Middle Beach. He was 30 second at the Charles Schwab last week. Tons of driving distance off the tee, but most promising is that his approach based down to increase as well. And one of the other things I do like with him is that complimenting that a course like this where he's driving distance is going to be effective. He has got that ability to go to a tour and off the tee and seek some more accuracy if he does need to. And also the other thing I'd add is that he's very good with his approach under 150. He won on kind of a similar course on the DP World Tour at the BMW PGA Championship. Treeline Golf Course tends to play a little bit tougher and really honed in on that approach play. And I think his ability with the wages could can affect our on a shorter golf course this week as well. Yeah, I looked at him this week. I know he's your boy. You've interviewed him. He's showing up for you. He had flowed down a while, but I does seem that he's starting to turn that corner in. I think we're starting to see some of that better golf from Ryan Fox. I've been heading in tonight with a little bit on the fence. Knowing you're back in, I think that upload pushed me back on to Ryan Rock's will be in my player pool. But Spencer, love to hear from you on Ryan Fox. I'm usually anti Fox in a lot of these spots. I don't have that sentiment this week. You look at the heightened proximity sixth in this field. You look at Stroke's game total on par 70 courses, eighth in this field. I think he's going to be able to use his distance in his proximity ranges that are going to probably be in front of him. He's an interesting, I don't even want to call him boomer bus candidate, but he has a very high ceiling for a golfer that's going to be sub five percent owned. There you go. Absolutely right. I love it. All right, Spencer, you got two here back to back. Only 6600 perfect to go. How you going to fill out the rest of this squad? I said this when I made the Rory pick. This is also not the plan I was wanting to go here. I would have loved to have been in a spot and I would have done this a little bit differently, whether it's Akshay or it's Davis Thompson or it's Taylor Pendreth. There are a lot of options. And for the record, I don't, I'm not going to take him. So the third name that would have been a seven thousand dollar golfer who landed inside the top 60 of every category was the surprising one of the mix that's not going to have any ownership to him because of the back to back miss cuts. And that's Ben Griffin. I do like Ben Griffin this week. That's going to be one of my ways that I'm going to try to get contrarian and different, but I am going to I feel motivated by what Joel has put together with his build of Spencer and Connors. And I want in on this. If we're going to play a Canadian tournament, I'm going to take a Canadian golfer. So I'm going to take Mackenzie Hughes, one of the safer profiles I talked. There's a lot of ownership around him, but we talked about Connors being one of the safest golfers in my sheet. Hughes had that exact same profile just with a real putter. He can actually put where Connors cannot, but he has a top 10 return for safety. You look at some of these strokes gain metrics when you gear it towards Hamilton. He climbs inside the top 20 for me. And he's number one in weighted short game when you take the around the green and the putter here. So I'll start with Mackenzie Hughes. And then I am going to take the player for me, who was the best value on DraftKings. Meisner might have been my best value in the outright market before the ownership came. It's a little bit of ownership with this golfer, but I'm going to take Chandler Phillips. Phillips has been really boomer bust this season, but my model saw him increases expected off the tee data by more than anyone in this field for the track. He moved from outside the top 100 to inside the top 30 when faced with similar courses. Add that to his top 25 weighted scoring output. That's on grade in the top 40 for all three par ranges. There's only three golfers when you look at par three par four and par five scoring that accomplish that top 40 in each one of those things that's further down this board. One is Chandler Phillips, one is Jacob Bridgeman, and then the other one is Andrew Novak. So I'll take Phillips here. I think it's interesting. I was surprised by the Mac Houston. I like my keys, especially in the Canadian nature. I was more surprised because I've been at a money level. I was like, how is he going to make that work? But you found Chandler Phillips under 6K. I think if you're going to be value diving to find someone under 6K, I think Chandler Phillips makes a lot of sense. I liked the way you worked that out there. David would love your take on Hughes and Phillips, and then your fifth bet. I wonder if this tournament was going to play a little bit like the cop here course of the Val's Bar Championship. With that Chandler Phillips pick, Spencer has now got Sam Burns, who has won that tournament back-to-back and then a fourth or a sixth, and then Chandler Phillips, who finished third in that course earlier this year. I think that's an interesting way to build. If we think that this might play a little bit like cop here, which is something that I suspected. For my pick, I think I'm going to have to go and take a golfer that maybe a steal. We'll find out. I don't think I'll get this player if I don't tag him here because of what Joel's got left. I'm going to take Matt McNeely at 9200. It is who Joel is going to take from the look on and say, no, I can't. That's fine. That's fine. Look, I just think Matt McNeely's playing better golf. We're looking at 9200 for Matt McNeely. I just think there's so few people who want to go and pay 9200 dollars to play Matt McNeely, but he's playing really, really good golf at the moment. In the 9K range of Matt McNeely, at the second lowest ownership and in Scott being marginally lower, I think that he has the ability. He's well-rounded. I think that's what I like most about his profile. He's got a plenty of driving distance. He's not too inaccurate off the tee. We know he can fill it up with the putter. We know he can get hot with designs. He's very, very good around the green as well. There's the scrambling aspect there, too. I'm just like with consistency that we're starting to get with his game. In a golf course, they've been not too sure exactly how it's going to play. I feel he's playing a lot of people that put people getting in credit for. I just think that nobody wants to play him in 9200. I think Matt McNeely is a very interesting to make. I thought about him the same way you did. I was almost looking for him. The way he's playing seemed to be a good spot. Then I thought he was a little overpriced. Then when I saw the pricing, I said, "All right, well, good. They should keep the ownership down." I'm seeing 15 percent. I thought it was surprisingly high frame at this price. If he does stay at a high ownership at this price, I probably won't plan. I do think he has a lot of opportunities in your treating pick because of the way he's playing. He's definitely a profile of a guy that I like. I think he can definitely have a good result this week. For me, who I was actually looking at with this pick, I liked regularly, so I made a face because I liked the pick, but who I was looking to take here is Shane Lowry. I'm thinking Shane Lowry more just because he is the best golfer available at this point. I'm paying up for him, but he certainly has as much upside as I need for this. He can go out there and win this tournament and get you a top 10. I have the money to afford him, so by starting with my value, it enabled me to have the spot to pick a guy like Lowry at the spot. I was also considering taking Cam Young. I'm okay with taking Cam Young here. I can only have picked between one of the two. If you're prioritizing distance off the tee, then you might want to go Cam Young, but I think Shane Lowry is more of a winner and more of that win equity. I'm going to lock that in for myself here. audience, it looks like your first pick might be in. We need two, so let's get the rest of those nominations in to finalize your pick. While we wait for that final pick, we'll love your feedback on Shane Lowry. We'll start with you David. Yeah, look, I mean, if we're looking at correlation on the DPR Tour to a win-worth, another tree-lined, somewhat tricky golf course, we have Ryan Fox one, Shane Lowry, won that tournament the year before. The approach matrix is very, very good. We all know what Shane Lowry's weaknesses and I get that, but we've also seen him start putting pretty well at the Masters and show up at that tournament kind of consistently. He may quite like being grass greens, and obviously he had the win earlier with Murray Macquarie and getting to lift trophies again, I think is always impossible for any golfer. I love it. I have to say, I'm very upset with myself, and I'll explain why. The audience picks are in. They went with Hubbard and Shane's power, and I'm sad with myself because I was planning to take power with my next pick, and I should have just looked ahead and saw how much money the audience had in taking power first because they wouldn't have been able to afford Lowry, and I didn't do that, and I allowed them to steal them from me, which I didn't really think he'd be on many people's radar. I really wasn't worried about it, but that's what I get for not being prepared. So audience, needless to say, good pick. I was going to take power there. Hubbard, I think is also a very good play. I think Hubbard's coming in a little too higher-own than I would like to see him, but I think in the 7K range, he's a solid play this week. Spence, would love your feedback. Will you be on Hubbard or Power this week? Shamus has been catching a lot of traction the last 24 hours. He's starting to be very close to 10% ownership from some of those early totals that had come out. I think that's a little bit too popular for me. The safety numbers like him. Some of the upside numbers don't necessarily. So I'm probably not going to play Shamus with all the popularity that he's catching in the space, but the profile is pretty safe for what I have in my sheet. I just, I don't love taking it. This is one of those examples where we're looking at a 10% or higher-own player that has the negative leverage for upside. I'd rather, in large field contests, shoot for what my model perceives to have a little bit more upside. All right. Bang, bang. There you have it. All right. For my last pick here, I am torn between two guys. Obviously, what's going to be power? It is no longer. It's between Rio, who you know is one of my guys I draft often, and I'm considering Bobby McIntyre, who we've seen. He's going to be pretty low-own. We've seen him kind of spike at the PGA Championship to give you a top 10. Definitely not consistent with the ball striking, but he's good to short game. I think there's all these very boomer bust type play in McIntyre, which is what has me torn. But I am going to stick with McIntyre here. I think McIntyre has the upside. I think he could have a good showing and make some putts. That's going to be my play. I don't know what pains me because I just have an affinity for Rio, but I think McIntyre is the right play here. We'll go to you on that one, David. Will you be playing Robert McIntyre this weekend? Maybe someone that I was looking at in the draft as well. I do think that's probably the route to go here. I know that we've all discussed what upside hosts that Sine has. The concern for me comes that this golf course maybe doesn't suit the driving XC. I mean, look, we don't necessarily know. I think it depends what sort of build that you have going, but I think the other way that you've built Robert McIntyre seems to make more sense with the type of golfer that you've already taken in terms of that golfer profile, and maybe if you'd built a little bit different like how the audience started with Norah and Fleetwood, going like a high set Sine route could actually be complementary in terms of what that golfer might be. I think it was Zach and Jeff is in the chat who mentioned whether we looked like a skill set kind of stack this week. I don't think there's a bad way to approach the week in a week where we're still sort of someone guessing what the golf course is going to play like. Yeah, look, I do like playing. I think he's playing a lot better. We've seen him perform well at courses where driving, driving, total driving particularly has been a strong indicator, which I do think there's going to be a factor this week. So I'm going to go and use up all my calories this week because I can and I'm being greedy. But I think that while this has been played a bit better then we've had to give him credit for. He's got that ability to really scramble his short game, which I think is going to be important this week to really keep the round going. He was fourth at the Byron Nelson recently, 20th at the middle beach and then showed up at the PGA Championship and finished 43rd on a golf course. I thought it was probably a little bit too long for him. In saying that he has been adding a lot of driving distance to his game lately this year. And yeah, I think that he's got potential to pay kind of one of these tree lines and golf courses, which I think will soon as came from experience over on the deeper world tour. I definitely endorsed that pick. I will tell you before I picked Shane Lowry, my contemplation was between Cam Young and Matt Wallace or Shane Lowry and we shouldn't have time to pick it again. But Matt Wallace was the guy I was definitely considering. I think you said it right. It's short game is around the green. You know, when he has one of those weeks where he spikes with the approach, that's when he gets you those good results. He could do that this week. And if he does, I think a top 15 finish frame is very much so in play. So endorsed by me for sure. Spence. I think I saw you nodding would love your take on Matt Wallace and then your last pick with 5700 remaining. I like the Matt Wallace selection. I do want to comment. That is a wild move from Danny when the audience was making their pick. Nobody in shows history has ever taken Robbie Shelton. I don't think and trying to get the audience to take Robbie Shelton from me, seeing that he's probably the highest person in my model there. It's a very interesting move there. I am going to take Robbie Shelton. There's obviously a lot of boomer bus potential that's going to come into play here, but 26th in my model for weighted scrambling. He's 23rd for me in that heightened proximity plus short game. I'm going to hope that what we got last week from him with the ninth place finish will be able to continue. He's been very, as I said, hit and miss. There's the miss cut at the Byron Nelson. There's two 33rd place finishes at the Valero in the Balspar. There's a bunch of miss cuts at the Houston Open and the players. So you're getting one end of the spectrum each time with it. I know what I'm signing up for. I don't love that he is starting to move up in ownership because of that finish. If this could have been a situation where we didn't have the result, my model would probably like him just about as much and it would be more of an advantageous spot to jump into. But in this position that I'm in with the price tag that I have, I would have preferred to have gotten up to Jacob Bridgeman. I can't afford him. And while my model likes Aaron Battley this week, there's just no upside there. I don't want to put Battley into a lineup where he is also gaining some traction. I'll take a shot here with Robbie Shelton and hope for the best because I do like the top four golfers I have. I think there's a pretty safe profile. And then you're going to need something a little special from the last two, but there's nothing to say that that can't happen. Well, I'll start by saying one of the options you had down there, Robbie Shelton, in my opinion, was the right pick. So I like that. And two, I can confirm. I don't remember when it was, but I've definitely taken him once before thing last year. So this is not the first time he's been digging. Maybe at least once, I know I've drafted Robbie Shelton on this show. But probably, I don't know why I'm saying it like it's a good thing. It's probably a bad because it's not like Robbie Shelton's anything they're all home about. But that's a wrap for this draft. We had some fun tonight. Let us know whose team you think is going to win as we do every week. We will report back next week and crown a winner. But we're not done yet. Don't forget to hit the like button and give us a follow. It goes a long way. Awesome. You haven't done so yet. Sign up for win daily. Get in discord. Before the week said, you'll get Steven's ownership article, which is the best ownership article in the business. You can see how guys are trending. Some of the guys we discussed ownership on get that final number. We will also give you weather updates in discord so you can understand first from leader plays. If anything changes, if there's any weather edges, we'll let you know. We'll post outright tickets, betting plays that you prefer. Get in there. It'll be worth its money after one week without a question of a doubt. And it will go a long way. Before we get you out here tonight, though, we do still have our first round leader plays. And we'll start with you, David. Who are you looking at in the first round leader market? I've only got three this weekend. And part of that is going to be the nature of my first selection. We've spoken about this on the show recently. We've got a very, very clear favourite at the top of the betting market in Roy McElroy, who's $5 to win the golf tournament. But you can give him the first round leader at $15. He's getting a morning tea time, which I do think is going to be better. It's spent so later to the start of the show with the course breakdown that the course is probably going to play a bit softer. So you're getting triple the odds of his win odds to come out and win the first round leader market. And that does tend to be the way that Roy McElroy wins golf tournament, as he leads from the front with a strong first round. So that's going to be the first pick. Then two still pretty short, but not too much. We've got Alex Norrin at $40 to $1 this week. Again, I just have some questions about it as willing to close a golf tournament. But you can certainly get hot for one round, be very, very good putter. And you're getting more than double his win odds with his first round leader lot odds at the moment. Again, gets a morning tea time. And some of that we didn't take on the draft cast that I was kind of looking to take at one point. Never got round to it just because of the the way that players went before me. But it was Keith Mitchell. I think Keith Mitchell was just like ball striking it so well at the moment. Plenty of driving distance without losing driving accuracy. I think there could be a really good recipe here. Again, he gets morning tea time and you can get him at $60 to $1 in the first round leader market. So that feels like very good value when he's priced sometimes as low as sort of 35 to 41 in the win market. Oh, I love it. All right, Spence. First round leaders. Who are you looking at? I agree with David. I don't have it on my card currently. I only have two right now. I do think Keith Mitchell at 60 to one is an interesting look with his ball striking ability. The two plays I have right now, Bull Hostler 100 to one, Tom Kim 50 to one. I talked about Kim and the reasons why I liked him. Hostler gives you such a interesting profile here because he's one of the biggest differences that I have from safety versus versus upside here. The upside numbers really like him. The safety numbers have gone in the wrong direction, but this is the exact market where we can get away with trying to bet on that upside here. So I thought at 100 to one his ability to make putts and have distance was very intriguing for this course. Boom, I love it. I love it. I also want to grace you. Thank you. See, I appreciate you stopping by in the chat and dropping some first round leader plays. See is on Alex, Nora and Sam Burns and for long shots. He's on Miesner and Norlander. If you know anything about saying he gets a red hot in that first round leader market. So take a look at those plays before we get you out of here. My first round leader plays. I really do like I know I mentioned him a lot at the end of the draft. Shame is power at 80 to one. I think it's a good number. We've seen him pop early in rounds before. I also like Canadian Mackenzie Hughes at 50 to one. Shame Lowry at 35 to one. And of course Cameron Young. I think we always see Star Taught maybe isn't finished always, but he always tends to come out hot when he has a good week at 35 to one. I think even if it's not one of those two guys I mentioned, I think that 35 to one number. There's about four or five guys there is the number. The better golfers in this field. I think it's a really good value on getting one of the top four or five golfers in the tournament at 35 to one. I would play any of those guys in that 35 to one range on draft games. That is a wrap for tonight. We appreciate you guys stopping by big week. We'll have some fun and we'll do it again next week. Did I forget anything? You know when you're listening to a true crime story that has an unbelievable plot twist that makes you stop in your tracks? That's what our podcast People Are The Wors brings you with each episode. I'm Rachel and I'm Rebecca. We're identical twins who love true crime cases that make you say didn't see that coming and we hate the people responsible for them. Listen to People Are The Wors now on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.