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Bava Metzia 92

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Saudi Bay is on the top at the new Mishnah about five six lines down. Ohkal Poel, if you have a worker, now in general you hire a worker, let's say to work in the field, the assumption is he'll work and if he smacks on some of the produce that's fine. Let's say he's working with a very expensive type of produce and he eats so much that he eats close to his wages, it's wages, more than his wages. What do we say about that? So Ohkal Poel is allowed to eat key shows, which I believe are cucumbers. I feel a bit dinner. Now a dinner is enormous amount, let's say he makes, I don't know, typical worker would make $80 a day, he eats $500 worth of cucumbers, or kaysevis, he could eat fat dates, I feel a bit dinner. In other words, many times what he's getting paid that day is what he's eating. That's one of three opinions. I have a lesser Hasma, who I boxed, interesting note the name. Aimer, that he can't, he has to sort of muzzle himself and limit himself to whatever his wages are, that's the amount of a produce that he could eat. Loyochal Poel, yes or he can't end up eating, smacking on more than Saare, what his wages are. In the chakamim, a ostensibly a third opinion, we boxed them. Matirim, they allow him to eat as much as he wants, even more than his wages. We recommend to a person, teach a person, any person, not to be such a gluttonous individual, if the word gets out that this guy ends up eating more than his wages, then he'll end up getting a lot of closed doors in his face when he asks for employment in the future. Okay, now, the chakamim had said a worker can eat even more, that is wages, the chakamim said a worker can eat more than his wages, chakamim, they seem to be saying the same thing. So the more explains what the difference between them is, ikabenayu, I put a diamond around this ikabenayu, two lines later, there's another ikabenayu, I put a diamond around that, and about eight lines later, the last two words in the line are ikabenayu, that also gets a diamond. So three times ikabenayu is going to give us a ikabenayu, here's the first ikabenayu of all malamdin, that which alhammim said that we recommend that he not continue that practice of eating a lot more than his actual wages. Well, let's Hanukkamah, we underline, let's lay malamdin, Hanukkamah didn't say anything about that, so there's no concept of that we teach him, you know, basically let him learn it on his own, where's the rub on on, who we underline, that would be the chakamim, the third opinion, the Mishnah, islahu, they do hold of this malamdin, that we will call the guy in and give him a little... advice from the rabbis. "Eat by it, say my squiggler, and eat by it, say my ikabenayu, a alternative approach of what the enough community is between them, daravasi," which ivasi said, what daravasi say, daravasi, I circle daravasi's name, and this is the first thing ivasi is going to say. ivu lai saqarela liftsar eshkal eshkal ekhlai, even if he's only been hired to pick one cluster of grapes and he eats that, he can eat that one. Now, daravasi said, how do we apply that to the three Tanayim in our Mishnah? So, according to the Hanukkamah, let's see, he's working on cucumbers, and he only picks that one, and even if it's worth a lot more than his wages, he can eat that one. He comes along Rabbi Elizr Khasma to say that whether it's just that one, whether it's to pick all the other ones, it doesn't make a difference. He cannot eat more than what his wages are. And then the hakamim come along to say that if he's going to eat more than his wages, that's allowed as long as he's basically hired for the whole day. But if it's only been hired to pick, let's say, those cucumbers, then he would not agree with Revasi, and he would not allow to eat it. Okay, that's Revasi number one. I put brackets in over here, and the brackets go down about seven lines till first one line is ema, and they close the brackets after the word sriqal, the third one on that line. So, let's see what's in the brackets. It actually flows directly for the first Revasi. A second Revasi, this would be Revasi number two. Afi-leu-leu-leu-leu-echkol echol echol echol echol echol echol. Even if he's been hired for the whole day, and he's going to be picking grape clusters the whole day, he would be allowed to eat that first, from the grapes, from the first cluster that he gets. Now, that's very similar to Revasi number one. So, why do we need both of those Revasi? So, they're not saying basically the same thing. Well, sriqal, both Revasi one and Revasi two are necessary independent of each other. And here's why. Dei is squiggle. I'm not in the word, dei, dei, ashminen. Hakka mysa. If we heard Revasi number one, I would have thought Michim de lo echol echol echol echol echol echol ala baayas. Since there's no more fruit for him to put into the baskets or the receptacles of the boss, he can sit down and eat from that first cluster. Aval. If I wouldn't have heard Revasi number two, I would have thought that if he's been hired and there's, I don't know, another 473 clusters to go. Aval. If I would have thought that if he's got a bunch to go, he can still snack on that one. If I would have thought that he's allowed to snack on the first one, because there's still a whole bunch to go to echol echol echol echol. That's what I would have thought. And that's what I have to be told. No, even if he's got a bunch to go, he can still snack on that one. The E.I. squiggle on one, this would be E.V. Ashmin and Behar, the second Revasi. Well, I would have thought he's allowed to snack on the first one because there's still a whole bunch to go to Efshulukumi Lebisseif to actually put some into the receptacles of the Balabas. Avalhecha de Lefshulukumi Lebisseif, there's only one he had to pick. And he's going to eat that one. Emo lo, I might have thought, no, no, no. You can't eat like the one that you were hired to pick. Therefore, it's three, so we need both Revasi's. That's the end of the brackets. Ebisseema, a third approach of what the Ikameinai will be between the Tanakama Varmishna and the third of being the Chachamamiz. Ikameinai wais squiggle on the Ikameinai. The Ibisseema, Ikameinaiu de Rav. Well, what did Rav say? Sir, Rav tells us a little story that happened. Dama Rav, Matsasimigula Sisarem, Bei Ripkia. When he was learning in Ripkia's Yeshiva, he found a hidden little scroll and it was written on it, the Casuva, the following. And this was, you know, it wasn't, you weren't really supposed to be writing down Tora Shaba al-Pah. And then for people who write notes and sometimes they'd get hidden away. It was, here's what it said on the note. Isi Benuhudai, double annoying his name, Aymer. The paasuk says, "Kisaka vakimryaka, when you chance upon your friend's vineyard, that's the B.S. Kalada makasimidabir." That seems like anyone who's going by a vineyard wants to stop in and snack on some grapes, he can do that. Now, that's what the little note that Rav found said. Rav himself of Ramarav. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that can't be. Loi Shavak. Isi, Haileh Holberia. If we go with the Quran in Isi and like, you can have a thousand people walking by your vineyard taking grapes, then how's anyone ever supposed to keep a vineyard? Then therefore it can't be. So Rav disagrees with Isi Benuhudai. Amravashi, I half-boxed Ravashi, and a line later I half-boxed Rav Kahanah, who was Ravashi's Roshishiva. says Ravashi. Am Rishalish Maisa Kameidurav Kahanah. I said this thing of Isi Benuhudu over to Rav Kahanah, and I suggested a dumaboy sin besu dasun dawdubachlu. That maybe what Isi meant was that these are not people who are just going to come and snack on the grapes. What they're going to do is they're going to come in and they're going to pick a bunch of grapes for the boss, and then they'll snack on some as they're picking without the boss knowing. But they're of course going to be working for him. Okay, and that's the way that Ravashi explained to Rav Kahanah what Isi must have meant. Now Rav did disagree, so the Gomor now asks, these two words are taken out, the Amr lay, and instead it says Virav, question mark, what would Rav's respond to that be who lead and agree with Isi? He would say, listen, even if you have some strange off the street deciding they're going to work for the guy and snack some food, usually the owner of the field doesn't want that. He wants to pick his workers and decide who works, and it should be up to him. If you look at this, it's much more preferable to a person who owns a vineyard, Olgiraguri, to hire his own workers. The niktifilapardesin let them harvest his orchard or vineyard or whatever it is, fully nacy kuliyama v'a'ahu lei, as opposed to have any Tom Dick or Harry show up and start working and snack away. Period. By-a'ahu, this question that we're going to have right now is going to take us till the end of the shear, which is the top of Sadi Gimmelomodalif. It's a very interesting question, it goes as follows. We know that a worker has the Torah says, I guess, has the right to snack while he is eating, while he's working in the field. Is that viewed as a sub-issue of the deal that he has with the boss? He has the deal with the boss and the boss hires him, and he has this sub-clause that he's allowed to snack. Or is it more like once he's working, the Lord says that he could snack? He buys a little poel. Is it his thing that's like a deal with the boss? Or is he eating because of Hashem said so? Ask him, what difference does it make? Is there any practical application of a case where it would make a difference one or the other? Well, it would. If he said the worker to newly-east Yulaban, listen, I'm not going to snack on the things that I have the right to, but give it instead, please, to my wife and son. Hmmm, colon. Eee, armor-sized squiggle on the Eee. If you want to say Michalohokal, that is basically his right, and it's kind of like a viewed as a deal between him and the boss, so... Yeah, if you don't, it'd give it to the wife and the kid. Ela Eee, I squiggle on the Eee. Ela Eee, I'm going to say Ma'imohokal. It's like a special relationship between Hashem and a worker. 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