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Fightful Wrestling Podcast with Sean Ross Sapp

Is Ricochet Leaving WWE? | WWE Raw 6/10/24 Show Review | SRS & Denise

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1h 9m
Broadcast on:
11 Jun 2024
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Sean Ross Sapp (@SeanRossSapp) and Denise Salcedo (@_DeniseSalcedo) review WWE Raw for June 10, 2024!

- Ilja Dragunov vs. Bron Breakker

- Sami Zayn vs. Otis

- Lyra Valkyria vs. IYO SKY

- Ricochet finishing up with WWE

- Drew McIntyre

- Your questions

- Chad Gable status

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As one of America's leading accounting, consulting, and wealth management firms, our collaborative approach creates solutions for your unique business needs. We leverage industry focus insights with the collective technical resources of our firm to elevate your performance, uncover opportunity, and move upward at Moss Adams.com. What's up, you guys? Sean Ross App, welcome to Fightful. It is June 10th, June 10th, 2024. Please leave a thumbs up on this video, share, subscribe, let's drop some, you know what? I'm drinking a fruit punch drink right now. Drop some blueberries in the chat. I didn't know there was a blueberry emoji until last week. I was pretty happy about it. Drop some blueberries in the chat. We would greatly appreciate that. We'd also appreciate your thumbs up, your nice reviews on audio platforms, and super chats and humper chats, as Louise mentions. Superchats here at youtube.com/fightful. Humper chats over at humperchats.com. There are other ways to support us, FightfulSelect.com. As Alan says here for the receipts, Sean, Ricochet is out. We told you that was going to be happening on FightfulSelect.com this past weekend, and let me tell you. I got more contract news. I got more. We had some every single day last week. We got more coming. We got return news coming soon. But you know what? We got to need South Sato here. When do you head over to Scotland? Tomorrow. I leave tomorrow morning. I'm not not tomorrow morning. Sorry. Tomorrow evening. My plane leaves sometime during the day. Wow. My God. I'm excited, man. I was about to say, are you excited? Yeah. I'm excited mainly because I've never been there before, and I like going places I've never been to, so that's what I'm really looking forward to. I'll be going to Glasgow, and I'm also going to be going to Edinburgh, because I'm already there, so I might as well go. And I also realize there looks like there's more things to do in Edinburgh than there is in Glasgow, so yeah, I'm excited. My grandma's not excited. She doesn't like the idea of me leaving places all the time, but I tell her that it's all right, because I'm already used to it. A reminder, guys. You can get your questions, statements, and we're going to talk about WV. We're all. We got a bunch of backstage news for this, and literally everything else, thanks to FightfulSelect.com. That's $5 in the business. $5 a month gets you nearly 100 news stories a month, accurately sent directly to your phone or email, whatever you want there. But also access to our Discord, dozens of podcasts, please check that out. It greatly supports what we do. We've got, you know, I feel like we should leave the ricochet thing to a little bit later, but we're going to consolidate the main, or the main event promo to the main event. So we're actually going to start with EO Sky defeating Lyra. Kyrie ended up attacking Katana and Caden made the save. I really, really enjoyed the match. Lyra is fitting wonderfully on the main roster. EO Sky picks her win back up. So one of the things that we saw a lot of when you and I started to review this show was 50/50 booking where nobody really got over because one person would win, one person would lose. I'm not ready to say that's what this is, even though we did kind of see them give it back because they did an awful lot in establishing that Lyra is somebody they cared about. But this match specifically, what did this one do for you? Dude, this actually did a lot for me. I will tell you, first of all, I want to say that I really enjoyed today's episode of Monday Night Raw. I thought it was very good. It was a little bit of everything and in particular with this match, what I liked about it won that they ran it back because that was part of the tournament. And so seeing it go in EO's direction gave me hope. I actually like that they're won one right now. And the only reason I say that is because they're keeping this story going. We always talk about how they need more stories for the women, how it's not just about the main title picture, which right now is Liv Morgan and Dominic Mysterio and everything that's going on on that end of things, but you also need some other stories for the other women on the roster. And so I'm liking the chemistry that both Liv, sorry, that excuse me, I don't want to talk about Liv anymore, that EO, that EO has with Lyra Valkira. I like the chemistry that they have together. And I think that they can really do something special here, especially with the addition of Caden and Katana helping out Lyra to go up against damage control. This feels like a good story and they work together so very well. And I feel like this could be the feud that starts to get Lyra really over with the audience because I think that they respect her. And even with this match, the crowd wasn't going too crazy for it. But I thought it was a really good wrestling match. And I kind of felt like the crowd would have been more into it if I think they were more into the two performers that were there. So I feel like it's stories like this that are going to keep building the wrestlers that you're seeing perform. So yeah, I thought this was going to work on all ends. Caden and Katana making the save, I'm like, OK, I'm glad there are some undercard women's tag team feuds here. They're going to have to do something to heat them up. It'll have to be more than run ins and stuff because, I don't know, maybe I'm just slipping into my mind, but I can't personally remember the last time they were all in RAW. Caden and Katana. Yeah. Oh, man, it's been a while, man, like it's been a while. And they show them sporadically, like they'll randomly be in a backstage segment or in some random match. And then you won't see them again. Actually, I think the last time they were on, didn't they have a match with Shayna and Zoey? Probably. Yeah. Probably using them with somebody else. It's been a while. It's been a while. But I mean, they had like the clubbing stuff and all that. I need more than that. I need more than them showing these women doing that for me to, you know, get invested in them. Yeah. As I look, they were in a top contendership fatal four way a few weeks ago. Before that, it was the battle royal for the world title in April. They haven't won a match since, oh boy. January 8th, they won a match and they, they last won their match after they, gosh, man, it's been, it's been since their title reign. Oh, wow. They won a match. Yeah. But. Because they were, they've been on the main roster now for quite some time. Yeah, they have, but, but you know what, I'm glad that they're getting them back involved. They needed to happen, especially if you're building this women's tag team division, like it's one of those things that I constantly complain about wanting them to build this women's tag team division, establish these teams. And this is a part of that. Like, I can sit there and say, well, they haven't been on TV, but I want to see more teams on TV. I want to see newer teams as well. Backstage. EO sky, despite the victory screams that something has to change with damage control. Will Chisholm says he's here for mad crazy EO. I'm intrigued. I want to know what changes. I mean, unfortunately, based on her Twitter, it looks like Oscar had to get knee surgery, which wishing her the best. But what do you think changes? I don't know if anything necessarily changes. I just think that this is just going to give layers to the story here because you've got to have a reason to care about what damage control is doing. What is their purpose? All right. EO getting mad. That's step one. Then on Lyra's side of things, it's we thought she was probably going to be forming some sort of relationship with Becky Lynch, but Becky Lynch is not there as of right now. And so now you have her going out there and not having any friends being attacked by multiple people. So you've got to find someone to fill that spot. And I feel like Caden and Katana were perfect for fill in that spot as well. I'm like, like I said, I need more tag teams. I hope they bring in some new ones as well. Alba and Isla getting used is positive as well. We'll go ahead and speak about that as well because later on in the evening, we had Shaina and Zoe defeating the end. Holy union. Ka 775 says after clash of the castle, can we bring back NXT, UK, Kayleigh Ray, she was fantastic. Alba fire isn't doing it for me. I think right now in the landscape we have, I think their best opportunity at this moment is as a tag team because they need them so much. Shaina and Zoe got the win as Jade and Bianca looked on, but I was a little bit surprised. They outright had the unholy union tapping out like right before the title match. Did that surprise you at all? Not so much. I think what surprised me in this match was how quick it was. I kind of thought like, oh, you want to make these teams look really good heading into it, considering how dominant the champions are. And there was something that the super chatter just said about Alba fire, not really doing it for him. And it's more so when she was Kayleigh Ray, I don't think it's necessarily that. I just think it's been the booking because I was a fan of Alba fire on NXT and what she had been doing, but they sort of wrapped that very quickly and she got into that tag team with Isla Dawn. And then from there, that got wrapped up really quickly, then they're on the main roster. So I feel like she really hasn't had too much time to really soak in being Alba fire. And so I think it's more so that than her not sucking. Like I like the Alba fire character. I don't want her just to go back to just being it up. I think this makes her stand out a little bit more. Well, this is a unique super chat. Hey, Sean, want to be honest with you. Have you ever got blackout because on Saturday, I got black out of my dad's birthday party. I took six shots for Palomas. They don't remember anything. They just ask you a question. My friend, I've never drank. I have never drank alcohol in my life. I know the internet thinks that I did coke on a live stream once, but outside of a little weed. I've done a mind altering substance. I took a muscle relaxer one time for my back and I had a hangover the next day. So I am, it wouldn't take a lot to get me blackout. That's for sure. Just a strong whiff of something might do it to me, but no, I can't say that I have. I'm offended. How come I didn't get asked this question? How come this was just a Sean question? I will say. Okay. I think enough time has passed for us to talk about the one drinking story that we have together. We've never talked about it, Sean. I thought we decided we weren't going to talk about it. Well, now people are going to think it's something completely different based on that. Well, I just wasn't sure we were supposed to. I mean, Cody gave you a shot of his story, however, we were at the Cody premiere. We were a few of the select media that were asked to come there and he had us on his bus. We spoke with he and Brandy and I don't drink. So I had a little Coke zero shot, but as a token of appreciation offered Denise a was a shot of whiskey. I have no idea what it was, bro. Let me tell you that had Denise lit. When I dropped her off, I was like, Denise, are you buzzing? Are you buzzing Denise? That's why I said I thought we weren't going to talk about it, but I took one for the team that day. You didn't know it, Sean, because I also don't drink. It's not like I'm out here getting drunk every single weekend shit. I hadn't drank anything in years. I mean, I tried it when I was in high school, sure, but I'd never done anything like really since and so I've never drank Denise. So I saw you being all high and mighty and I was like, damn, we can't be rude a holes and say no to Cody. So I said, I'll do it. So I did and I should burn my fucking throat. Quick curse. Good job. I don't care, Sean. I don't care. All right. I took one for the team. I deserve a curse word on this show. Well, also I'm a better medium member than you because I don't accept gifts from the subjects that I cover. But I was like, I don't know that although the funniest part of that was Matt Cardona running off with all the swag bags and then selling them on whatnot. Because if you remember, Cody slipped signed eight by 10s in there and then then brosky was selling them on his whatnot the next day. Ridiculous. 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Well, I was going to say, when did you shoot yours? It was after yours because she referenced doing one with you before that. Oh, see, I did mine during RAW at what time was it? Six o'clock. Mine was right after yours then. Yeah. Yeah. So I still took the time to edit my little video, put it together, and a whole thing. Look at this BS. Look at this BS. This is what Denise will do. If she gets, if you wait and put out your interview after her, she'll be like, "I'm on top of it. I get it done." I did get it done. I wasn't before you, but I still got it done. Anyway, Will Chisholm says, "Were those the same shots Jey Uso and Cody were drunk off of that media scrub?" Probably. Probably. As he said, it was the wrestler shot. That's what he called it, the wrestler shot. That's why I don't remember the drink. I just remember the wrestler shot. There you go. And I just remember my throat being on fire and I'm just kidding. Jonathan Corona. I am braver than you, Sean. I am braver than you and I want credit for that. Bro, Jonathan Corona, who asked me that question, is sending me the pictures from his night out? And let me tell you, I can see why maybe he was like, "Please tell me that I'm normal right now. Please, please relate to me in this situation because, oh boy, he was getting tore down. Look at it. Look at our dude. Well, I mean, it is in his name, Corona. That is fair, that is fair. Oh, man. Not on my days. The one time that I drink, I remember it was a healthy thing. I drink with my friends. We went to a club and I will not explain what else happened that night. I don't look down on anybody who drinks or anything like that. Like I just never got into it. And then by the time I was, by the time I was of age, I was already dee-dee-ding for people and I was like, "I don't want to do this." But it was fun though, I do have some good memories. Like I didn't have any bad experiences, but I did hate it. And so I just never really did it, but I did try it in high school. Ludwig Geyser says he wants money in the bank. Later on, we see Seamus say that he wants it as well. Man, Ludwig Geyser is really starting to establish himself over the last couple of weeks, especially that win over Seamus and this vignette. I'm like in the direction. I do too because I have been sort of, what was it? It was a, God, I don't even remember how long ago it was. But remember they had been doing those vignettes where he was perfect and he was like going around and they did all of these little vignettes for him. And they stopped those, they only did those for like a few weeks. And I wanted them to kind of continue or go somewhere because from the very beginning, I feel like I've always seen him as a guy that can be a top guy. But for some reason, the moment just hasn't really happened for him. And I feel like he can really get over with the crowd. It's just a matter of really starting to build his character because for the most part, he's just been that guy that's been there with Gunther and with Vinci. So I feel because there's no Gunther that I met, that I remember tonight or Jey. So and obviously Seth is out. Rhea is out. Becky's gone. Missing an awful lot of people here. So I think that that's sort of benefited guys like Ludwig Kaiser for sure. For sure. Yeah. I think they should keep doing more of this. Just kind of remind you because he's a good wrestler and he's got a lot of intensity. His promos are good. He looks great. I mean, I feel like he's the total package. Jonathan Corona is asking about Ricky Starks contract. I haven't heard anything about it. I can't necessarily confirm or deny those reports, Jonathan, or what you're saying is reported. I have not heard anything new about Ricky Starks contract because I ask all the time. He plays it very, very close to the best. But I don't think he's opposed to returning to AEW. Thomas Sandberg says FightfulSelect.com mentioned that some WV talent believe they're on a per appearance contract, which means they can work somewhere else. Is this a new thing? So to clarify that, there was a talent that I heard of that had reached out to another company and said they currently aren't under contract right now, but are still with WWE. I don't know if that necessarily means they're getting paid per appearance. I did reach out to that talent and they said that they are still with WWE at the moment. So that is not something that usually happens with WWE. So that is something to monitor. I'll see if I can put that name out there eventually. Bear Hudson says on his question, what do you need to see from this version of the Wyatt family to consider it a success? Who should their first feud be with on the main roster? Well, Denise, the science point to next Monday, the QR codes and all that. If you re-watch the Bray documentary, I think they were very heavy handed about some stuff and I am going to work on a report on it this week. And I have seen a glimpse of what it might be like and it looks pretty interesting. We've heard the rumored ingredients, right? Eric Rowan, Bray Wyatt, or not Bray Wyatt, Bo Dallas, Nikki Cross, Dexter Loomis, and the like a couple of the things that they mentioned in that documentary, Denise, they were like, we got to do something that will make Bray proud. And if you'll notice, they'll say, well, one of the big issues with the Wyatt family and Fiend stuff was you couldn't make sense of it in the ring. I think they will do it in a manner that will make sense of it in the ring. That won't be like ghosts and goblins and supernatural stuff like that. I think that will go a long way. As far as the first feuds, I could see Braun being one of the first feuds because of his connection to them. Yeah, I think the way that you make it feel special, it's just it's keeping it because I was going to say realistic, but realistic to the extent that you could with this kind of an act where again, you don't want to go too far like when they were doing the whole thing where God, I remember all the stuff they had Alexa Bliss do where she was. What was she doing? She was doing some crazy stuff that I remember watching on Ron just going like, oh, I have to suspend my disbelief a little. Oh, you know, which what I didn't like the hypnosis stuff that she was doing. Remember when she would hypnotize people? I didn't like that. Yeah, I was not a fan of that. So it's like little things like that where I feel like that's a little bit not believable for me. And remember when she had the black liquid, I was like, okay, fine. The black liquid sure it's not the best thing, but whatever I can buy that a little bit more than the hypnosis. It's just, I think you have to present it as cool, fun, creative, unique, instead of a super unrealistic Jonathan Cronus says, Sean and Denise, I want to ask you this, what did you guys think of WWE and the apex when battleground got done? What did you think of the production? Well, I think that annexy and wdb had the benefit of working in full sale in the performance center. So that wasn't a setting for them that was too out of the ordinary. It was a lot more enjoyable than the UFC apex shows to me because those are very lifeless. But Denise, could you even tell they were somewhere different? Yes, I could, because that one, you could tell with the amount of space from the ring to the barricade, it was a very, very little space that you can tell that they were working in a more of a combined area. And then also the other way that I could tell too was any MTC, even if it was one or two, stood out so much more than if it was at the performance center of two seats are missing. No one's going to notice, but you definitely notice in the apex. And you also kind of noticed a little bit with the chance and also kind of how commentary was not really used to being in that kind of a situation. And so you noticed it through commentary as well. So there was a bunch of different ways that it was noticeable. Also we've seen a lot of the, oh my God, I'm forgetting what it's called. What is it? The jig? The rig? No, the jig. So I forgot what's called. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Like even seeing that, you don't usually see that in the production and you kept seeing it throughout the show. So there was a bunch of little things that I did feel, I wouldn't, I wouldn't hate them running it again, but it wouldn't be my first choice having them run the apex again. We've got a man, still a lot of people want to talk about the ricochet thing. We're getting there. I promise. Ludwig. Well, just case, seven, seven, five says, what are your early money in the bank predictions? Who are you thinking wins that? Tiffany Stratton for the girls. And well, so far we really don't have anything for the guys yet. We just had Ludwig Kaiser saying he was going to be in it. So I'm going to go with Ludwig Kaiser because there's, but he's not really my pick right now. I could see someone else in judgment day also winning money in the bank and causing like maybe some friction there. It's, I know it's just, I could see that being what they do. And I think Tiffany Stratton will win. Natalia spoke to Sonya backstage Ryan said any update on her should fans read into the fact that Becky is still on the roster page and hasn't been moved to the alumni section yet. Becky is out of contract right now. She is a free agent, but WWE expects her to come back. She is expecting to come back at some point. Fightful Select reported that the day that that her deal went up on Natalia as of last Thursday had not signed a new deal. She is, as of now, entertaining all options. I'm sure if they make her too good to be true deal, that might change. I mean, there are an awful lot of people that are interested in her doing the Owen Hart tournament. I know they've got that booked out. But if Natalia Nighthart becomes available, well, that's probably going to change some things with it. I don't think that she'll win it. I think it's pretty clear. It's a path for Mariah May, Tony Storm at, at all in, like based on the geographical situation. But like, I wouldn't be surprised to see Natalia do a deep run and I don't know if they're doing eight or 16. But as of Thursday, she had not signed a new deal. I will follow up and ask again. Oh, man. So let's talk about it. Ricochet was backstage and talking to Elia Dragonov. Then Braun Breaker and Elia Dragonov have a hell of a match, just a hell of a match. And none of the super chats are about that, but I just want to say this. I am glad they didn't do the thing that they've done so many times before where Braun just does three months of squash matches. It's the same thing. Veer is coming. Veer is coming. Veer is coming. And Veer beats the same guy. We saw it with Ryback. We've seen it with Veer. We've seen it with a million people, right? He got a couple of his squash matches. And now he's working like 16 minute slappers with Elia Dragonov, who did not win, but looked incredible in defeat. And that's sort of a gift and a curse for Elia Dragonov, Denise, because he looks incredible in defeat an awful lot, but Braun Breaker is so very clear to be the next guy. RG3 is out there tweeting about him. Like there's an awful lot to Braun Breaker right now to like. Let's talk about the match before we talk about everything else. Dude, the match was incredible. Dang, I don't even know where to begin with it. It really was this thing where both of them recognized that the other individual was not going to be easy to defeat. So the whole time you were seeing both of them come at each other. I mean, Braun was literally giving his everything and so was Elia. This match was so freaking physical. And there were so many great moments. I mean, there was one point where I thought what was it when Braun tossed Elia into the second rope and the rope literally just hit him like right in the throat. Then we see Elia get super desperate at one point and he just starts hitting Braun Breaker with a bunch of German suplexes. And it looked really cool because Braun Breaker is a really big guy. But I mean, they were just going the spear on the outside, the spear back in the ring to finally close off this match. This match was hot the entire way through and they gave me exactly what I want to hear. So whatever vision you had of this match, that's what they gave you. Yeah, this was outstanding. And then afterwards, Braun goes back for more and then Ricochet makes the save. We see Ricochet come out, did some incredible stuff. They gave him some shine upon leaving. A nice little thank you for his years. Gosh, I can't tell you how many big dumb bitches I had on the World Wide Web that were like, what happened? What happened to the write off? Well, Fightful Select reported and I want to say PW Insider reported that he would be written off tonight. Fightful Select had reported that it would be Braun Breaker that did it. Well later on, Braun Breaker caught up with Ole Ricochet and whipped his ass and Ricochet sold like a million bucks for him, like just did a wonderful job on the way out or what seems like the way out, putting over Braun Breaker gets thrown through a car windshield. Ass first, Denise, ass first, he said, I got glass in my, he got glass in his ass. Samantha Irvin is like, oh no, and leaves as well. Well, we got a bunch. She did really good in that role by the way, she did really good. She sold it like so much more than anything I could have expected. I really liked that added addition of that. Yeah, we're going to ask our moderator to break the chats up into Samantha Irvin and then Ricochet stuff. But Jonathan Carona says, when wrestlers talk for extensions with WWE and AEW, do they have agents to help them sign the contract and talk negotiations or do wrestlers do contract negotiation talks? Well, Jonathan, it's both, Barry Bloom is a very famous agent. He handles most of the highest of the high profiles, your Goldberg, Chris Jericho, Omega, hangman, a lot of those types of people. He's also got people that work with him. You've got Steve Kay, Emojo Raleigh that are helping out an awful lot of people now. There's a fellow from the NBA who repped a couple of people who is now repping some guys like Brian Cage. There is Brian Wittenstein who represents Cody, the guns, Jake Kargill. There's a lot of people that are finally getting into this agenting game because there's more money in wrestling than ever before. And now wrestlers aren't giving up, they're 10%, 5%, whatever that might be, isn't as substantial as it once was. So it's a little bit of both, but there's agents all over the place. But John Black says, Braun Throwing Ricochet, the production truck was a great outsiders WCW callback. I wonder if it, if Ray's PTSD activated, honestly, I would love to see Ray being like, that wasn't cool. That's happened to me before. And then Braun destroys him. Braun versus Ray Mysterio would be a hoot. Yeah, 100%. Mr. Acosta says that Toledo, Ohio didn't deserve that match. They didn't based on their reaction. Real Chisholm says, I wanted the undertaker to turn around and say, buckle up Prince Puma. Oh my God, geez. Mr. Acosta says, gonna miss Ricochet in WWE, enjoyed his run. Kyle says, would love it if Dijak brings hard justice to Raw and face Braun. 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Dream Ninja says big credit to Ricochet for being a pro and telling WWE ahead of time so they could write him off in a way that helped Braun. Samantha was great. Samantha was great. I haven't confirmed that he gave his notice, but everything else that I heard from PWInsiders report matches exactly up with what I've heard, so I wouldn't doubt that at all. I wouldn't doubt that at all. J.D.B. Pringle says, "Was that real glass? Don't tell that punk guy he hates real glass. One like, squeak, one prayer for Ricochet." Listen, I don't get that one, my friend, I don't understand that one. When can TK talk to Ricochet? What's Samantha's contract status? They can talk to Ricochet when his deals up. Although if he's given his notice, WWE isn't going to give him any static for negotiating with AEW. They do it with people all the time. Both sides do that type of thing and talk to people when they're on their way out. It's frowned upon in the middle of a deal when there's a lot of time and can affect a lot of plans, but Corey David says, "Is Samantha urban leaving? I have not heard that as of yet. I will. I will ask about it." Johnathan Coronas says, "I wanted to ask this question. When do ring announcer contract end like Rome, Taylor, Samantha's contract? You think we see her in AEW, just curious?" I don't know anything about her deal, but if you can get Samantha urban, you get Samantha urban. That is like Renee Pecat. If you can get her, you get her, you find the spot for her. Same here. I mean, they let Dasha go and they've had Bobby Crews doing some collision and stuff, but Samantha urban is, in my opinion, right up there with as good as anybody in the game right now, Denise. Yeah, it would be a huge loss for WWE if they did lose Samantha. I personally don't think Samantha should leave WWE. I think she is in a prime spot and they're treating her very nicely from what we can see on TV. I'm not talking behind the scenes, but she gets a lot of attention on social media. She gets a lot of attention on the show. I feel like she doesn't really have a reason to want to leave, per se, other than obviously wanting to be with Ricochet. Yeah, and I don't think that's as a slam dunk as so many people just act like it is. Tim says, "Hi, SRS and Denise. Do we know when that contract is up, just curious if she would leave with Ricochet?" I always say to you guys, you never know their motivations. You never know. So I'm not going to speculate on that. I'll try to find out as best I can. Will says, "Was it Rio Glass?" I heard that joke plenty. Brock Harjo Wood says, "I guarantee that you throw into the trailer, throw into the trailer hurt worse in the bump in the car, brawn through him harder than Kevin Nash through Rey Mysterio." I think the bump on the car probably hurt worse than the trailer. I think Kevin Nash and Rey Mysterio were very safe about that bump as memorable as it was. Jonathan Corona also says, "Well, I'm going to Mexico next weekend. We have three parties back to back to back." Oh, man. We just hope you come back, buddy. We just hope you come back. So Liv Morgan, she continues to torment Dominic. Backstage, she approaches Dominic and gives him her hotel room key. And she says, "You shouldn't be with a woman that makes you call her mommy. You should be with a woman who isn't afraid to call you daddy." Later on, in the middle of a match, Liv tripped, fell, landed on Dominic and mounted him, which resulted in Zelina attacking her. Backstage, Carlito, JD, and Finn Balor are there and they're like, "What's going on?" And Dom goes, "She left me her hotel room key." And they all look at it. And Carlito says, "That's cool. I've loved him in judgment day so far." And Damien's like, "I want no part to this. Tell it." Listen, this is as the world turns, it's corny soap opera bullshit. And I love the corny soap opera bullshit that we're watching here, Denise. I got to tell you, I am very astonished by how far Liv Morgan has towed this line, man. I was already talking about this last week when her hands went lower than I expected them to go. And then this week, when she lands on him, I already thought they were doing a lot by just her being on top of him for so long. But then she started moving around and stuff. And I'm like, "Oh, this is where this is going even more so." So I feel like no longer are they letting us leave things to imagination. They're definitely pushing the boundaries a lot more on this. And that has been the part that has really astonished me in this whole thing. It's no longer a tease. I have loved Carlito in judgment day. He is infinitely more interesting than anything that he's ever done. And he's being a crony. He's doing little one liners. He's playing off of the stuff that made him popular. I think he has been a really, really good fit here. What do you think happens with Dominic and Liv? And they hook up. They've got to. She's been giving them so much more than Ria has. Sorry, Ria. But she has. Damn. Oh boy. Men are easy, bro. They just go wherever they like, you know, get it. Oh my gosh. She's yeah. We've got Jamie Ehlers saying I'm in on this liver venge tour, but does she wrestle her feed with anyone before Ria gets back. Yeah. Looks like she's going to wrestle Zelina at some point who I would like to see her in a title shot. But Brandon will win says Denise, would you rather fight Liv or kiss Dom? I would definitely not want to kiss Dom. So I would fight Liv. Okay. Sorry, Dom. Not my type. Will Chisholm says, if you noticed, Finn was the last person who had the card just saying. And RJ says, Finn grabbed the key card. So that was another something that got brought up was that we saw him emerging from a vehicle that she was also in recently, oh boy, oh boy, man, what's going to happen when they go to the freaking Netflix? I'm curious, man, this story is going to get like you, this story is going to get very, very inappropriate. What do they do like bonus stuff that, you know, you just wouldn't, I don't care. Well, speaking of, speaking of bonuses and Denise says that men are easy. So is winning money with bet online AG. They got a 50% welcome bonus up to $1,000 when you join now. The earliest lines, you can bet big with the high limits and rebut functionality. The fastest payouts in a safe and secure environment, high credit card acceptance and payouts in minutes, bet online dot AG. It's where we've always got our odds from and we're going to go through them right now. We've got man. So as I look at the bed online AG odds, I want to make sure that I get them directly from bet online AG, but they had Drew McIntyre and Damien Priest very, very close there. Who do you have winning that? Oh, so even though I want, I'm sorry, even though I want Drew McIntyre to be World Heavyweight Champion, I'm thinking it's going to be Damien Priest retaining. So as of now, as I, as I look at this, they've got day Drew McIntyre as a pretty sizable favorite. I would, I would be willing to put a little bit on Damien Priest, Bailey, a monster favorite over Piper Niven. I think that's safe. Jay Cargill, Bianca Belair are heavily favored to win. I would go there as well. There's some other stuff there because they've got some, they've got some for matches that haven't even been announced, like some hypotheticals in that regard. So they've also got like Seamus and Ludwig Kaiser and they have Seamus as a big favorite. I think if that got announced, Ludwig would win. I don't think it's going to happen. They got solo versus Kevin Owens, which isn't announced, but solo is a major favorite. I think that's fair. They had Randy Orton and Junther, which I don't think is going to get announced, but a minus 1500 for Junther, which I think is obvious. But they have Will CM Punk interfere in the world title match, and it's at a minus 450 favorite. Yes. And I am leaning that way. I don't know about, if I'm that confident, but Denise, I'm leaning that way. No, I've been leaning that way now for quite some time. I feel like that's definitely the direction they're going in. And then even today, once we talk about that match, given what went down, and now that they're a judgment day's banned from ringside, that didn't mean Sam Punk's banned from ringside. So my God, it's just, I love you can bet on wrestling, bet online, a G. We got will Chisholm saying, live needs to stop Finn and Dom have lovely wives at home, my geez, raw talk, new catch Republican ounce. They'll be on NXT tomorrow. So is Cody Rhodes. Listen, they're, they're putting a lot into NXT. Good for them. They say it's done. I'm going good for them. Yeah. Done and bait will be teaming with Wesley tomorrow versus Gallis. Listen, all due respect to done and bait. People wanted the rascals. People wanted the rascals to team with Trevor Lee are, you know what, that would be kind of fun too to watch the rascals team with Trevor Lee, that would be kind of fun. James Staling says, Hey, there's can say what they want. Ricochet fits better in AEW. I'm so excited for the possibilities for him. He does fit better. But Denise, I think what you said last week was true. And I thought about that. I was like, you know, there's top like can do the same things that he can do outside of some feats of strength. But has your stance on that changed it all over the last week? No, I'm pretty much still the same. I mean, I think still think it's a cool opportunity and there's going to be cool matches. But yeah, I, I think it'll be fine. Got a lot more about Ricochet and Simmons says, if you had to choose where you wanted him to go, I would say new Japan. If he wants to bet on himself, wishing the best and he proves fans who wrong who doubt him. My friend, Ricochet does not need to prove himself. He proved himself in New Japan. He proved himself on the indies. He proved himself in Lucha Underground. And he proved himself when given the opportunity in WWE. I don't know of any like real storyline with a ton of substance that he got in WWE. I just don't. Right. I think more so in terms of not proving himself as a wrestler, but proving himself as an act that is worth pushing, worth giving TV time, worth giving stories to. I think that in that sense, he might want to definitely prove himself in that light because think about it. You could easily stay in WWE, collect a very nice paycheck, I'm sure. And also be with your, with your person, be there with Samantha. The fact that he is willing to step outside of that and see what else is on the other side kind of goes to show that he is wanting or either to prove himself or maybe has a chip on his shoulder to prove that he can be more than what he was in WWE. So again, not proving himself in ring wise, but proving himself as someone that you want to invest in. >> Jonathan Cronus says don't get why he's leaving. This Triple H hate ricochet or hate is promos ricochet leaving, opens up a spot on Raw for Dragon Lee to have insane weekly matches. Well, I do agree with that last point, Ricochet, I think Dragon Lee stands to benefit from that an awful lot. But I mean, he and ricochet are definitely different in the ring, but do some similar things. I don't know how Triple H feels about ricochet, I don't know, I'm not sure. So I'm sure ricochet will speak on it afterwards and what he thinks. I would be surprised if we don't get a Chris Van Vliet interview next month. You know what I mean? Tom Black says how to live missed the opportunity to call Dom Poppy, that's a good one. Cadillac Carson says Dom should just say yes to live and whatever happens happens, love the story. >> I told you men are easy, they just say yes. >> Man, Braun and the LWA defeat Carlito and judgment day because live, tripped and fell and landed on Dominic. It's good to see Dominic back in the ring, by the way, very, very good. Finn Simmons says, I think there's a swerve happening with this situation and Finn is the actual person who betrays them. Remember, he says she was bullet club. Well, not really, he was, but I think we could see Finn Balor doing something here. They've kept him intriguing and interesting along the way. Speaking of intriguing, interesting, Sammy Zayn approaches Alpha Academy backstage and I loved Otis's promo Denise. He said, he was like, I know you don't get it, but he said when Mandy was gone, when Tucker was gone, I lost my money in the bank briefcase, Chad Gable believed in me and he was there for me. I didn't mention those two specifically by name, he called them his peach and his tucky. First off, I love this nod in history. It should be a point to bring this up. >> So for me, I do agree with your point about Otis and his promo because it finally gave us an explanation as to why he's been tolerating all of the BS, all of the disrespect from Chad Gable, right? And but the promo that got me was Sammy Zayn because Sammy tells him like, you don't realize how special you can be basically telling him he doesn't have confidence. And you know, if he realized that he could be doing all of this other stuff, but the way that Sammy said it, I was like, damn, that's so nice, that's so sweet. That actually pulled my heart strings. So yeah, I really liked what Sammy brought to it because all of a sudden it feels like he's trying to help Otis become the Otis that he could be, right? Like the very best version of himself, instead of always being the sidekick, instead of always being put cast aside, maybe he can actually be a top guy in a different way than he has been. >> Sammy Zayn then defeated Otis and we almost felt like we almost saw the turn again. Now, with Chad Gable, Fightful Selected reported on his contract, he had interest from AEW and WWE. I haven't confirmed that he's re-signed yet. Everybody can say, well, of course he did. We don't operate on, of course, or assumptions or anything like that, as far as saying this factually happened. But if we're talking about assumptions, people in WWE and AEW assume he's staying. There was- >> When is his contract up again? Chad Gable? >> It was supposed to be up last Friday. >> I saw. What made it interesting that he was advertised for Clash of the Castle, but there are some people that are working that are operating without deals and have gotten reps and stuff like that, representatives. So I don't think it's a slam dunk necessarily, but I think you gotta have- he can't leave without the Otis turn and the Otis feud anyway. I'm inclined to believe he's staying, but when that Otis turn happens, Denise, it's gonna be a big one. >> Yeah, I think we kind of already had that inkling since last week. And then even this week, I thought they did a better job at making you think that it was gonna happen this week. Last week, I knew it wasn't gonna happen this week. I kind of thought, oh shit, are they just gonna do it right now? Because the whole time I had been expecting it to happen till Clash of the Castle. But I thought that the way that he reacted today and the way that they sold that, I really thought it was gonna happen today for a split second. >> So do you think that it happens because Gable loses again and blames Otis? Or do you think Gable will win the title and then? >> I think there's gotta be a reason, there's gotta be a reason in that specific moment to trigger Otis. He's not just gonna be like, eh, change my mind from all these other weeks and I'm finally gonna get to you because today showed that it's gonna take a lot for him to actually turn and attack Chad Gable. The fact that he didn't do it today and knowing because in that backstage segment he saw the tape from last week, he saw everything that played out. He saw eye to eye with Sami Zayn and even knowing all of that and explaining why he's still friends with Chad Gable. And he still didn't actually attack him even after Chad Gable slapped him again today. I feel like that was him basically saying he's gonna need a lot to really be pushed over the limit. But something has to happen to push him over the limit at Clash of the Castle. >> Get in your super chats, get in your humper chats, my friends. Jay Hudson says give WWE credit with a roster that is missing Becky, Roman Seth, Charlotte, Punk and Asuka, they're making the best of what they have. I agree with that, Ludwig Geiser, a big step up. We're seeing Dragonly used more. I thought they were going positive trajectory with AOP. I'm about to rant about that in a minute. But you've got people that are, Iliya Brombreaker. When do I expect Roman Reigns to make his appearance? Probably after Money in the Bank, probably head into SummerSlam or something like that. But I don't have info on that. DNC Digital said question for both of you. If you had a friend who's not a fan, ask you to show them a match, to show why you love it, what match would it be? I would show them, gosh, I would probably show them, even though I like the Mania 25 match better, I would show them Undertaker Shawn Michaels, Mania 26, with the video package before it to set the stage for that. >> What chances are, if my friend is not a wrestling fan, I got to show them something with a bunch of spots because that'll probably at least make them go, wow, I didn't, how could they fake that? So you got to try to appeal to their senses, especially if they don't like pro wrestling. So I wouldn't show them something that was two story based, I would show them something like a TLC match. Since we're talking, since you mentioned WrestleMania, I'll show the WrestleMania 17 TLC match. Because I know for a fact, you don't got to be a fan to react to that. >> That's a good one. That's a good one. Will Chisholm says I love how Drew is a heel, Sheamus is a baby face, they're still friends, we know if we know their history. I like that as well. I do too, because they're buddies, they're frenemies, they always have been. I like that they don't just throw that by the wayside and be like, let's ignore history. I've got a very funny story about them that I'm going to post on select one day. It's just been sitting in my drafts for a very long time, and it's pretty good, it's pretty good. I'll drop that one day when I don't have a story or something like that. >> What are we talking about? >> Sheamus and Drew McIntyre. >> Okay. >> A funny behind the scenes story on that one, but we've got Jared saying how mad will Scotland be when Alba Isla will be the only Scottish winners that clashed the castle? I think Drew is getting screwed and Piper obviously won't win. Do you think Alba and Isla are gonna win? >> No, no, so when he said that I was like, wait a minute, what? Did I forget the match that they're in? No, they're in there in the triple threat with Bianca and Jay, they ain't gonna lose. >> I think Bianca and Jay'd stay together until rumble time when one of them eliminates the other and we set up towards a mania match is what I think, probably. >> Yeah, so no, there's probably gonna be no one then on the card that wins from there. >> Boy, so, Mrs. Backstage looking for our truth. A lot of people speculated our truth would end up with the key card, which is kind of funny, but he didn't that we know of. He says that he's been talking and that they have a match with the APA, which is actually AOP. The final testament are also backstage and they say, Scarlett says Xavier, we'd never leave you like Kofi did. You can't trust him. I just wanna make this clear, I was all on board with awesome truth winning the tag titles at mania. I think it was the right move to give our truth, his mania moment, he was super over. And if they would have lost it later that week, I would have been fine with it. We are now two months into this rain, two months into this rain. And what we are seeing is authors of pain who just squashed a new day and squashed the Creed brothers are getting pinned with a goddamn distraction roll up. The Miz, a hundred pounds less than Rezaar, Akum, whichever one, hitting a distraction roll up pin is so annoying to me. All due respect to the Miz. Listen, could he pin me? Yeah, I'm sure he could. Akum and Rezaar with a roll up pin. There ain't no chance on this planet that is ever happening. No. Ke 775 says, I feel bad saying this, but Miz, our truth team has jumped the shark is now a bit painful. Yes, this was bad to me. And I get it new day or coming out and interfering. They got squashed, squashed. I thought, okay, maybe they're going to put the title on the guys that have won these matches convincingly distraction roll up pin like it's night or 2019 again. I hated it. Well, I feel redeemed here because I have been hoping for the Miz and our truth to lose forever ago because I just didn't even care to be honest. I was just like, okay, cool WrestleMania moment for them. Awesome. Cool. No, I knew this was always going to happen. I was not expecting anything realistically good to come out of this besides again, that WrestleMania moment. Same thing with the AOP. I feel like every single week I've been sitting here going, this is not good. They're not doing anything interesting and what can I say? I was proven right for at least this week. I want to say this guys, a roll up pin is more unrealistic than an Irish whip and it ain't even close. I have heard really great catch wrestlers explain the psychological reason for an Irish whip, why you run to the ropes instead of stopping and holding on and all that stuff to protect yourself. I have watched a lot of amateur wrestling and catch wrestling in my day, shoot wrestling everything. I have seen zero people pinned with a roll up pin and on top of that, I certainly would have never seen it by someone who outweighs the other person by a hundred pounds. It really annoyed me. I can tell you're really annoying because you like the face you made, you like emphasized it with your eyes three times and you never do that. I stood up and I said why because we don't see those nearly as much these days, right? We don't see the roll ups and all that because it was like that nonstop a few years ago. Woof. Jared says, "Happy the KC's, Caden and Katana are in a storyline, not about the women's tag titles. I think the team needs those types of storylines to build interest." I agree and to naturally have teams that are ready to compete for those tag titles, that way it's not just, "Well, here they are, they're back." We had a Drew McIntyre promo that kicked off the show. He said he's locked in this weekend and Damian Priest came out, interrupted him and told him that he should face Finn Balor later in the evening, of which Pat McAfee did the ring announcements for. He said that Finn Balor was from the bum-ass judgment day, he said he has zero body fat. What do you say about Drew McIntyre? He was a handsome man from Scotland. There you go. Or a handsome Scottish man, something like that. And then as we would expect Drew McIntyre defeats Finn Balor, how'd you feel about the match? This was a solid match, man. When he's freaking tossed him over the freaking, when he suplexed him over the commentary table with that, that was freaking cool. I love the finish with the claymore. I thought this was a pretty explosive match, man. I'm so ready for whenever it does happen, and I know it's going to be a while, especially because I'm still expecting Gunther, I'm actually expecting Gunther to become World Heavyweight Champion before Drew McIntyre, which is kind of crazy to say, but I'm not actually not too crazy, but Drew, I can't wait for this guy to be World Heavyweight Champion. Whenever the hell they do decide to go for it, how maybe it will be a clash at the castle, who knows? But whenever they do decide for it, I'm ready because he brings sparks to the show, even if it's just a simple match. That I can't even say it was a simple match. No, this was a good match with him in Finn Balor, like it delivered. And so I can't wait to see Drew hold that title. Yep. K775 says, you think Drew versus Priest will be overbooked? Or do you expect a simple punk interference, maybe uncommentary or the audience? Well, the stipulation here was that if Drew won, Judgment Day was banned from ringside. But CM Punk ain't like that's why I said that earlier, led me to believe, okay, they're banned from ringside. So he's going to go in there, not expecting anybody. And then all of a sudden, who's going to show up CM Punk, Yana says I can see TJ D or the Judgment Day, screwing over Priest at cash to the castle with live in Finn behind it all. Punk and Drew face off at the end, punk costing Drew is a simpler creative punk, uh, simple creative choice. Seems like we'll get a live Zelina feud plus a fire cliffhanger. Well, I'll tell you what I hope we also get with the live Zelina feud, Zelina winning some matches. That's what I would like to see because she has not wrestled since April 5th. She has not wrestled since WrestleMania. She has not wrestled since then. Do you know the last time she won a match Denise? No. Let's see on TV, was she part of the tournament? August 4th, 2023 against EOS guy, we said August, August 4th. This was her last win, August. Yes, August. So get her in there. Get her some wins. There you go. Also I will keep screaming this at the rooftops. I think that punk and Drew does not need the title. Does not need the title. Yeah, that's why I'm thinking that he's not going to win. Obviously at the hands of CM Punk, not for the title. I'm hoping summer slam we do get it. Is CM Punk going to be cleared by then hopefully I hope so last call for super chats and humper chats or a reminder guys this week I interviewed Mance Warner today. It's up for everybody on Fightful. His first interview since winning the GCW World title, interviewed Jordan Grace today. We got AJ Francis later this week. Also looking for some WWE stuff, I believe Corey Brennan will be on site. You get to meet Corey Denise. Yeah. His first time ever doing media. But we wrap up with Eddie Melinda saying, Sean, I'm telling you. I'm telling you Drew's worst nightmare punk somehow helps him win by distracting live and judgment day. Instead of the crowd chaining Drew's name, the chanting punks name on Drew's turf. I think you can I think you're going to make that happen. I think that's too unpredictable to to imply that they will chant for punk. But I think if they go the he'll the he's how do I put it? I don't know. We don't know how the crowd's going to react. I think he's going to cost Drew the title. Drew is going to be a 100% baby face there. They'll be on Drew's side, I believe. But how funny would it be if they're not when see him? What if they are the whole time and then see him punk comes down there like that? Well, let's do it for see him punk instead. That would be pretty hilarious, man. And kind of messed up Denise tell the people what you got. YouTube.com/Denise, I dropped back to back to back interviews with Bianca Roxanne and Jordan that's all up here on the channel. And then I will be a clash with the castles to keep an eye out for all of that content coming up. 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